Pick one.

>>386273482

Ace Attorney

Zero Escape > Danganronpa >>>>>>>>>> Ace Attorney

danganronpa

AA

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Danganronpa

Ace Attorney easily

>>386273482
Danganronpa, easy

>>386273482
Dangan

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Zero Escape 1-2 > Ace Attorney 2-3 > Danganronpa 2 > Ace Attorney 1 > Danganronpa 1 > Zero Escape 3

>>386273482
Zero Escape

danganronpa is the best series but also the one with the worst community

ace attorney nigga

AA

dangan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOi8G6q24KI

ZE as long as you pretend ZTD doesn't exist.

>>386273869
this is pretty solid

Ace attorney, Jesus

How is this even a choice

Ace Attorney, easily.

That said, I wish Zero Escape was better but only 999 is great. VLR is only decent. ZTD is a fucking STD and should never have happened.

AA > DR > ZE

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>>386273482
Judging just by how many mainline games are good versus how many aren't, then it's unarguably
Danganronpa > Ace Attorney > Zero Escape

We should strawpoll it

>>386273482
Dangan is just a shitty Ace Attorney which tries and fails to ape Persona's artistic style.

Can't speak for ZE.

So Ace Attorney.

ZE duology > AA > Danganronpa

http://www.strawpoll.me/13634718

Danganronpa because I love big titty teenagers and dark brutal plots about fucking kill

>>386273869
Can't argue with that

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I like all three for different reasons

>>386274629
Doesn't ZE and AA also have that?

>>386273482
Ghost Trick
Umineko

>>386273482
I wonder what is Uchikoshi working on.
Hopefully he'll be able to distance himself from ZE and make something completely new

>>386273482
999 + VLR > AA > Danganronpa >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ZTD

though they're all good apart from ztd

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>>386274551
>duology

none

>>386275008
>something new
He's a one trick pony.

>>386275194
But Anon ZE only has two games.

>>386275127
VLR was completely unnecessary and basically answers nothing while completely relying on a shitty sequel.

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>>386273482
>Ace Attorney has a shit rewrite localisation that only got worse as time went on and I can't bear to play through anymore
>Zero Escape is Uchikoshi rehashing the same plot he's been writing for the last 20 years and will never have a proper ending
>DanganRonpa had 3 happen
I can't choose.

AA, the only AA that dips below any of the Danganronpa and ZE games is AJ and DD.

>>386275610
What's wrong with AA's localization?

>>386273869
this, but it's not like there's a large disparity between each one
every one of those games are good and yes I'm including ZTD, I liked it even if it was the weakest of the trilogy

>>386275479
that's all true, but I judge it based on my first playthrough when I could assume good faith on Uchi's part

>>386273482
Anything but ZTD.

>>386273482
inpiniti

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>ZTD was too complex for everyone

So, this is a good place to ask as any: in what sequence should I play ZTDs events?

They make no sense in grand scheme of things. I just cockblock one team from killing the other while listening to small bits and pieces of exposition and plot.

How do I play this thing?!

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Ghost Trick

Ace Attorney > Zero Escape >>>>>>> Danganronpa

>>386276278
any order. The plot is disjointed any way you play it

>>386276375
>>386276380
These honestly.

>>386274901
>Umineko
Best taste right there

I might get into AA. how well do the ace attorney games emulate?

I've only played the first case in danganronpa so far and I'm not impressed. How is it that these games are so much more popular than zero escape?

999/VLR > Ace Attorney 1-3 > Ace Attorney 4-6 > Zero Time Dilemma > Danganronpa

Ace Attorney gets progressively worse, ZTD was laughably bad, and to be fair I've only plyaed the first Danganronpa but it was dreadful. Straight up bad. Maybe the sequels really, really improve but I don't see how anyone could place the first one in league with AA/ZE

>>386275710
Eat your hamburgers, Apollo.

>>386276825
They appeal to edgy weeaboos.

>>386276825
Social links
the cases only get good in DR2

>>386276278
The only winning move is not to play.

>>386276862
>Progressively worse
SOJ is easily top 3 AA games, what are you going on about?

>>386276737
I haven't tried it myself but they seem to emulate fine. The definitive versions of the first 3 are only on 3ds and ios unfortunately

they're great and you should definitely try the first one

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>>386276507

>>386276862
I got through most of the first Danganronpa and while I had some fun with it it's full of downright idiocy.

Also, while technically less of a "game" than the others mentioned here, Ever17 presented the trick that 999 used in a much better way in my opinion.

I have a question about DR. Is the new DR 3 game coming out unrelated to the end of DR 2? The DR 3 story ends in an anime?

>>386277183
I want to get into ever17 but the art is so terrible it's really hard to get past.

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>>386277090
The iOS versions are the worst way possible to play the games.

>>386273482
I would pick zero escape but the last game was horrendous.

>>386277354
I didn't have a problem with it. It's obviously old and not of high quality but I've seen worse and the story was worth it.

>>386276905
If you're so bothered by something like that just play the games in Japanese.

>>386273584
This

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>>386277354

Really? Looks like 'every other generic anime art style' to me

999 > AA1 > AA 3 > VLR > AA 2 > haven't played the rest.

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>>386276634

>>386273482
I'm fine with Zero Escape being over. I wasn't exactly satisfied with ZTD, but seeing Uchikoshi's other games it's pretty clear he's basically a one trick pony.
Danganronpa can end at any time. DR 1 and 2 were adequate and I won't mind playing V3, but I'm not holding my breath either. The overarching plot is basically a waste of time anyway.

Ace Attorney is a bit harder. At its best I think it's has more potential to go on than the other two series, but if all we're ever getting from now on is stuff on the line of DD and SoJ then it can also retire as far as I'm concerned. Not that they're bad, but the way they try to keep the series alive is just not worth it.
Who knows, we could still get another AAI2.

>>386277404
I'd just assumed that since the hd trilogy on 3ds was fine that the ios version would be similar. Thanks for the correction

Ace Attorney, it's the only choice out of the 3 you posted.

>>386273869
This

Can someone explain the appeal of Danganronpa? I played through the entire first game and regretted every second of it. The characters were awful, the cases were a straight up insult if you've played something like Ace Attorney. Really the only thing I liked was the concept of 'storyboarding' a theory comic style, but it was like 10% of the game and even that wasn't particularly fantastically done

>>386273482
Ace attorney
Zero escape shat the bed on round 3
Dangan shat it on 2
Ace attorney still going strong

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Danganronpa because of the Cuhrazy style

>>386273962
I can agree with that even though watching the DR3 anime with /a/ was comedy gold

999 and VLR are really good and despite how underwhelming ZTD was I'd still put the series above Danganronpa. Never played Ace Attorney.

HD/LW = Ghost Trick > 999 > Another Code: Two Memories > AA 123 > VLR > ZTD > DR 1

I gave up on DR 2 half way through, it's trash.

>>386277958
It's not the worst thing ever (seventeen lol) but it looks kinda like eroge level of quality. Just put me off I guess. The psp version is different though, right?

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>>386277919
Balls to the wall story with tweeeests left and right, good Soundtracks and Nagito.
It's also fun to pick a character and see if they make it or not

Unlike the other 2 series Danganronpa was never not trash so why even put it there.

>>386273482
Don't tell me what to do, I'm picking all of them

>>386277635
That's the plan.

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>>386278047

>>386273482
ZTD is trash though

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>Top tier
VLR, AA3, AAI2
>High tier
DR2, 999, AA1
>Mid tier
AA6, AA4, UDG, AA2
>Low tier
DR1, AA5
>Shit tier
ZTD, DR3

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As of the latest game?

Ace Attorney > Zero Escape > Danganronpa

Spirit of Justice is the best of the three in terms of recent content, ZTD is so bad it's hilarious, V3 is utter trash.

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Ace Attorney by far. Zero Escape is the next best thing. Danganronpa is for faggots.

This post is objectively correct, and theres nothing you can say or do to disprove it.

AA > ZE > Cing games >>>>>>> DR

Danganronpa is waaay too animey compared to the others, not for me.

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>>386277183
>>386277354
>>386277508
>>386277673
>>386277958
>>386278197

>>386278624
>AA6
>Mid tier
Talk about some shit taste

>>386278813
AA6 is nothing but average. It has too many shitty things to be considered great.

>>386278624
Move AA6 to High tier and it's perfect.

zero=aa>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>danganmeme

>>386273482
Ace Attorney has 3 great games, ZE has 1 good game (replaying VLR is fucking boring) and DR han no good game

Tough call
Ace Attorney > Zero Escape > Danganronpa
I like Zero Escape more, but Ace Attorney is better
Danganronpa I only played for the murder solving; I think its overall plot is retarded

So I played through DR1 and had the following conflusing in the cases:
>Case 1
Obviously Leon, was actually expecting there to be a twist where it wasn't Leon, at first.
>Case 2
Obviously not genocide jack. Briefly considered byakuya, but realized that too would be too easy and he was just a piece of garbage. I pinned it on either Taka or Owada
>Case 3
Absolutely fucking obvious it was Celeste during the entire investigation
>Case 4
Obviously suicide and just everyone are pieces of shit
>Case 5
This one was at least ok

>>386279020
>I think its overall plot is retarded
You only think that because it is.

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>>386278624
oh yeah, forgot that junk known as AAI. Put it in low tier.

>>386278891
>Too many shitty things
>Doesn't even mention them
Opinion discarded

>>386279267
>Nahyuta is a shit-tier prosecutor, annoying, a rehash of Blackquill without the charisma, and doesn't redeem himself
>villain is somehow worse than Phantom, just a last minute final boss
>overall story is fucking retarded
>final case is a bunch of rehashed stuff from previous final cases >lol Maya kidnapped again! and a bunch of convoluted bullshit with obvious as fuck twists like Amara and Dhurke
>Maya is just fanservice to cash in the nostalgiafags
>case 1 is outright dogshit, as well as the DLC.
>case 4 is only good for comic relief, but mediocre as a case
>only cases 2 and 3 are actually good, case 5 is possibly the worst final case in the series if I-5 didn't exist

Like I said, average.

>>386279081
DR1 is the piss easy mediocre game of the series, DR2 and DRV3 are nowhere near as predictable.

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>>386278624
Wrong.
>Top tier
999, Umineko, Remember11
>High tier
VLR, DR2, AA3, AAI2, Ever17
>Mid tier
DR1, DR:AE, AA1, AA4, AA6
>Low tier
AA2, AAI1, AA5, ZTD, PLvsAA
>Shit tier
DR3

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>>386273482
I pick actually well designed and written adventure games, and there has never been done one in Japan.

But between that three I guess Phoenix Wright is the lesser evil.

>>386279507
You forgot to mention how Dhurke is a massive mary sue.

>>386279598
The suicide in DR2 was a lot better.

>>386279669
I agree with everything besides Remember11. Fuck Remember11.

I don't get why people prefer DR1 when the only things it has against the other games is a more coherent main plot and slightly more grounded characters, which lose their edge when you consider that the series works best with a retarded main plot with good murder cases.

>>386279669
>>Top tier
>999
Stopped reading there.
Take your babby's first VN and shove it up your ass.
I can't believe people suck this game's dick so hard, when it has mediocre as fuck puzzles, uninteresting characters, and a gay predictable anime story.

The ending was so fucking cheesy too.
>WE'LL BE FRIENDS FOREVER JUMPY~~~

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In order of personal preference, (I still like and enjoyed them all),

Ace Attorney > Danganronpa > Zero Escape.

I really like how Danganronpa admits it has a really silly plot and works with it to have fun with it, as opposed to trying to be something serious. There's no grand pretension with it, or anything along those lines. Zero Escape I did really enjoy, but with how ridiculous ZTD got, and how serious it still tried to take itself despite that, it was a bit of a weak ending note to the series. While DR3 was a weak ending to the Hope's Peak Academy story as whole, the whole series was always goofy as fuck.

reminder ever17 is a better version of a certain uchikoshi game and that a mega link with BGM+translation improvements is available here

https://mega.nz/#!c5g0zLQD!FyOa4Pm9_nzPla2KU9HO5fY-sV2757BCKWS2fc8fXJQ

>>386278047
Juzo truly was /ourboy/

>>386280550
This anon's got it. I dunno why every thread involving Danganronpa niggers start shouting about how it's fucking retarded, of course it is, the whole point of the main plot is that it's dumb.

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>>386279847
1) It has the "First entry" bonus. By DR2 you know what's coming at you in terms of structure, cases and progression.
2) Immersion. The island was pretty shit and not being able to walk around took away some of the connection. Being confined to a single building also made you feel more oppressed.
3) Characters. While we can argue which game had BETTER characters, there's no denying that some people just got attached to certain characters due to personal reasons
4) Weedman

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>>386273482
First three ace attorney games>danganronpa>rest of ace attorney>zero escape (i've never played zero escape)

>>386280802
Bad writing is still bad when you do it on purpose.

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>>386280783
IS THERE ANYONE WH OCAN EVEN REMOTELY CONTROL OUR BOY JUZO

>>386280814
>DUDE WEED LMAO

>>386280814
>weedman

I love Hagakure man, but why's everyone gotta reduce him to that when he has 1 line about smoking a pipe

>>386273482
Zero Escape
AA until after 4
Danganronpa
The rest of AA

>>386279829
>suicide in DR2
THERE WERE NO STOPS ON NAGITO'S WILD RIDE

>>386273482
Ace Attorney > Zero Escape (ZTD brings it down) > Danganronpa

I think all of them are damn good though. They cannot really be compared because they are completely different tones.

>>386280550
>I really like how Danganronpa admits it has a really silly plot and works with it to have fun with it, as opposed to trying to be something serious.
I don't really agree with this. To me it feels more it's trying to have its cake and eat it too.
I get it that it's self-aware, but it always comes off as crappy hamfisted lampshading used to cover their asses.

>>386281349
I think only DR1 has that problem because DR1 is silly but it tries to take itself seriously. DR2 and DRV3 embrace the stupidity.

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>people keep say DRV3 is the best game in the series
>same amount of people claim its by far the worst
which one is it?

>>386281441
People who claim DRV3 is the worst got buttblasted by the ending/chapter 1/are going off of hearsay. Patricians actually played/read through fantranslations and formed their own opinion instead of listening to hearsay.

>>386277090
>>386277816
>HD Trilogy on 3DS
I hope you like fucked up animations and no in-betweens.

I legit can't ever tell how many people on here judge these games entirely by their waifus.

>>386281792
Danganronpa has nothing going for it besides waifus. And even then the character designs are often pretty ugly.

I finished Danganronpa 1 recently and oh god why is School Mode so shit I just want to hang out with Chihiro and Toko.

>>386273482
Played the DanganRonpa games and loved them, played the Ace Attorney games and loved them even more, just finished 999 and while I thought it was pretty good it doesn't belong anywhere near DR or AA. The story isn't anywhere near as entertaining and that repetition and trial and error for getting different endings takes several marks off.

>>386278789
Beeeeeee
Sheeeeeee

>>386281934
Just watch the ftes online my man

>>386273482
Ace Attorney.

But I like 999 and VLR a lot mroe than a lot of the AA games.

>>386282012
It's just not the same...

>>386282051
At least take heart in that DRV3 changes the whole thing to be wayyy more tolerable.

AA>DR>ZE, honestly.

>>386273869
Ace attorney 2 is pretty weak though

>>386281903
Ok, haven't played any of the Danganronpa games yet, wasn't sure where they ranked. I couldn't really get into 999 all that much specifically because of how damn HORNY the game was. Phoenix Wright has some of that I guess, but it doesn't seem like they're pushing it as much, and when they do it's usually for comedy.

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Turnabout Goodbyes, Farewell my Turnabout or Bridge to Turnabout?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5YDqLqeABw
Also post your favorite AA Track,

>>386282245
Don't listen to that poster, Danganronpa's got a lot going for it besides the waifus. DRV3's probably the horniest game due to 1 character, but it's treated as a sort of disgusting joke thing and no-one really likes that character in game.

>>386282313
Farewell my Turnabout. I was sweating bullets through the entire middle-last act.
>post your favorite AA Track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q582qWn7bok

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9R5mpVVuQ8

DR jams?

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>>386274682
This

>>386281903
I like it for the fact that it's the only other series that does the whole "find contradictions and find the killer" shtick that AA has. There's nearly not enough decent games in this "genre".

I still don't get why people throw ZE in here, other than it being a big VN that was on the DS like AA. DR and AA are more about looking at evidence against testimony and smaller one-off mysteries (although DR has the plot kick in at the last minute), whereas ZE is an Escape-The-Room Game with a focus on the overall mystery.

>>386273482
AA

>>386273869
Pretty much this but I'd put ace attorney 2 below dangan 1

>>386282313
Farewell>Bridge>Goodbyes

They're all incredible though.

DRV3 > DR2 = Danganronpa: Zero > Danganronpa: Kirigiri > DR:AE = DR1 > DR3 future > DR: Togami > DR: despair/hope

objective ranking.

Danganronpa

I bet Ace Attorney is still good but you wouldn't know because Capcom won't localise any AA games by the original designer Shu Takumi!

I would say
Zero > Dr > AA
I only have played the first game on 3ds and altough the cases and stories were generally better than danganronpa's it felt like watching an episodic anime instead of a serialized one. Also investigating in Ace attorney is a fucking chore and almost made me drop the game at the last chaptet

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>>386282524
DR AE has some really good tunes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vATlONpoS1I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvWGeZYeXj0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P6mPW4C1Yc

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Lawyer Simulator

>>386282898
I assume you mean the fifth chapter? I never actually completed it, it was way too long and tedious. And since it was tacked on after the first three games were already released it doesn't really affect anything plotwise so it didn't even matter.

Danganronpa>Zero Escape>Ace Attorney.

>>386282865

AAI2 was amazing, but I'm afraid the storyline won't be referenced again in the main series because it was never localized.

>>386273482
>ZE went to shit
>Danganronpa went to shit
>SoJ was actually good
Ace Attorney easily.

>>386273584
Guess someone here is way too stupid for AA

>>386282313
Bridge > Rise From the Ashes > Goodbyes > Farewell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2wRckkYdM0

>>386283484
it won't be referenced because no previous games are referenced in AA

BEST VIDYA EVER TIER
Zero Escape 1
Ghost Trick
Ace Attorney Miles Edgeworth Investigations 3

VERY GOOD TIER
Ace Attorney Phoenix Wright
Ace Attorney Trials and Tribulations
Zero Escape 2

GOOD TIER
Ace Attorney Spirits of Justice
Ace Attorney Justice for All
Ace Attorney Dual Destinies

BAD COMPARED TO OTHERS BUT STILL 9/10 AS A VIDYA
Ace Attorney Dual Destinies
Ace Attorney Apollo Justice
Zero Escape 3

SHIT
Danganronpa 1
Danganronpa 2

>>386273482
Ace Attorney is only trilogy that has a solid trilogy.

Danganronpa first one is clearly them figuring their stuff out and game's tutorial go on for like half of the game and even then it would throw new gameplay elements at you. Hangman's Gambit did not survive localization well and an entire game mechanic is useless. Writing wise it's not challenging at all and really only Naegi, Kyoko and Byakuya hog up all the spotlight, with Naegi having any spotlight only because he is MC. In retrospect, it's a very weak game, sequel is superior in every way, with better teists and slightly better puzzles.

I don't think i need to say anything about Zero Escape 3.

While Ace Attorney trilogy's weakest link Justice for All has arguably best case in entire trilogy.

>>386275610
>3 gave us Old World Order

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C4yBssyoTY&list=PL661F534D5EB64093&index=14

>>386283802

>Dual Destinies listed twice
>AAI3 a game at all

Shit list.

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/v/ told me Yamazaki games were shit but AAI2 was amazing. Explain yourselves.

>>386283961
BEST VIDYA EVER TIER
Zero Escape 1
Ghost Trick
Ace Attorney Miles Edgeworth Investigations 2

VERY GOOD TIER
Ace Attorney Phoenix Wright
Ace Attorney Trials and Tribulations
Zero Escape 2

GOOD TIER
Ace Attorney Spirits of Justice
Ace Attorney Justice for All
Ace Attorney Dual Destinies

BAD COMPARED TO OTHERS BUT STILL 9/10 AS A VIDYA
Ace Attorney Apollo Justice
Zero Escape 3

SHIT
Danganronpa 1
Danganronpa 2

>>386284026
Not him but what about Professor Layton vs Ace Attorney?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32GWbQt_Zn4

>>386284026
Can I ask why you think DR1 and DR2 are shit? I'd place DR1 in a "mediocre now but good when it came out" and DR in very good.

>>386283889

Fair point. Ace Attorney has pushed out way more games than Danganronpa and Zero Escape (combined?).

Can't judge a stellar trilogy on the quality of hyper dull Dual Destinies.

>>386277404
>>386277816
They actually pulled original iOS version an ported 3DS version

>>386284159
BEST VIDYA EVER TIER
Zero Escape 1
Ghost Trick
Ace Attorney Miles Edgeworth Investigations 3

VERY GOOD TIER
Ace Attorney Phoenix Wright
Ace Attorney Trials and Tribulations
Zero Escape 2

GOOD TIER
Ace Attorney Spirits of Justice
Ace Attorney Justice for All
Ace Attorney Dual Destinies
Professor Layton vs Ace Attorney

BAD COMPARED TO OTHERS BUT STILL 9/10 AS A VIDYA
Ace Attorney Dual Destinies
Ace Attorney Apollo Justice
Zero Escape 3

SHIT
Danganronpa 1
Danganronpa 2

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>>386273672
Danganronpa > Ace Attorney >>>> Zero Escape

>>386284026
>JFA
>DD
>GOOD
>AJ
>BAD
nani?

>>386284187
NO SHIT I FUCKED IT UP AGAIN

BEST VIDYA EVER TIER
Zero Escape 1
Ghost Trick
Ace Attorney Miles Edgeworth Investigations 2

VERY GOOD TIER
Ace Attorney Phoenix Wright
Ace Attorney Trials and Tribulations
Zero Escape 2

GOOD TIER
Ace Attorney Spirits of Justice
Ace Attorney Justice for All
Ace Attorney Dual Destinies
Professor Layton vs Ace Attorney

BAD COMPARED TO OTHERS BUT STILL 9/10 AS A VIDYA
Ace Attorney Apollo Justice
Zero Escape 3

SHIT
Danganronpa 1
Danganronpa 2

>>386278309
Promised myself Akane would make it. Whether that stood... See for yourself.
>>386281084
Not even in the last case. Fuck that guy.

>>386284159
Layton > all

>>386284296
>fuck that guy

objectively speaking Komaeda was totally in the right for wanting to kill everyone besides Chiaki in chapter 5

>>386284372
Good taste

Why do people think AA>DR? DR did schizophrenic villains before AA, and did it better

>>386284004
AAI2 and SoJ are top tier, the others are meh.

999 was such a fucking slog, same with VLR.

The "twist" in 999 was so obvious that you'd have to be braindead not to see it coming, and all the puzzles are piss easy and solved within 30 seconds.

>>386284196
Meant for OP

>>386284382
Now that you mention it, yeah

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>>386284517
>Why do people think AA>DR?
Because it's better?
>>386284551
AAI2 case 4 is one of my favorites in the entire series.

>elder god tier
Ace Attorney
Ace Attorney 3
Ghost Trick

>god tier
Dangit Ron Paul 2
Ace Attorney too
Miles Edgeworth too

>gret tier
Spirit of Justice
Dangit Ron Paul

>good tier
Apollo Justice
Miles Edgeworth
Let's See How Much We Can Steal From Ghost Trick 5

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>>386284168
Danganronpa is objectively inferior to Zero Escape and Ace Attorney.

First of all, it lacks Thomist elements of beauty.

Let's go over each one:

Integritas - A huge fail. Characters don't act like students. Or like humans. They are way too eccentric, to the point of stupidity.

Consonantia - Certainly not, the series is full of disproportionate objects for comedic value, and Komaeda regularly ignores the fact he is a finite object with an infinite end (as a human being) and behaves in a way that betrays his higher calling.

Claritas - I guess this one gets a half pass.

So it's pretty ugly. AA and ZE nail these aspects.

Furthermore... The plot is ugly too. It lacks on Integritas and Claritas, though it does have Consonantia.

That's my take on it.

>>386284560
>The "twist" in 999 was so obvious
how so

>>386284661
you need help

I'm just glad that the genre exists. AA and DR are some of the most compelling and heart pounding experiences I've experienced in vidya.

>>386284661
Going by that, AA fails both integritas and consonantia about as hard as Danganronpa does, so all in all great bait post my man

I got spoiled on 999, including the real identity of Zero, along with the twist at the end of who you are, and who everyone else is, and what their motivations are

is there any fucking point in playing it, then

>>386284661
Wait a minute, they were specifically enrolled for a school for eccentric kids, why would they be normal?

Nagito being fucked in the head is his character

>>386284768
Explain what part of AA fails on integritas and consonantia.

Which is your favorite character from each series, anons? I wanna know how shit your tastes are

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>>386273482
Ace Attorney. It's by far the most consistent and respectable. Its highs are some of the best moments in gaming, period.
Zero Escape was fantastic until ZTD shat on the entire series and exposed Uchikoshi as a hack.
Danganronpa is alright but suffers from way too much anime bullshit and tropes. The fanbase is also absolute fucking cancer and the series has quickly become's babby's first VN.

>>386283961
Two destinies, two rankings.

>>386284632
Explain the utter shite that was Dual Destinies

>>386284820
Honestly, no. The Zero Escape games only work if you haven't been spoiled.

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>>386273482
>tfw already finished all of these
Where do I go from here? I love them all (DgRp less so but it was still charming) Are there others?

I've beaten Prof Layton Diabolical Box and Unwound Future (the latter having my favorite twist ever). Are the prequels as good? Does Azran Legacy compete with the feels and head explosions of Unwound Future?

Is there anything else?

>>386284282
>BAD COMPARED TO OTHERS BUT STILL 9/10 AS A VIDYA
>Zero Escape 3
Neck yourself you fucking retard.

>>386284839
I think people fail to mention that none of these games would have been the same without Ace Attorney.

Professor Layton's creator even sends every entry to Shu Takumi, aknowledging his influence. He said that in Nintendo Direct.

>>386284910
Ghost Trick.

>>386284826
Would you consider most of the culprits or defendants as anything other than way too eccentric to be real? I'm not saying it's bad, mind, but they don't act like normal human beings.

And for consonantia, a parrot testifies in one case, and a serial killer testifies through a walkie-talkie in another.

>>386284874
How is this related to AA being better than DR or to AAI2?
But still, DD was good if you count the aquarium filler case.

>>386277001
not that anon, but i would place AA6 above 2 if it weren't for the fact that it still failed to fix the mess that was 4 and 5 and that it reused too many things from previous games (especially 2)

>>386284950
Yup. The fact that they absolutely fucking nailed the series out of the gate with AA1 when hardly anybody else was making these type of games is a testament to how influence and great the series is.

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>>386284910
Play the other Professor Laytons. The prequels plots are all intertwines and are an actual trilogy to each other. There's also Danganronpa AE which is the game that takes place between 1 and 2 if you want.

>>386284965
Take a concrete example. I didn't specify in DR since it is undeniable that practically all characters don't behave like humans. But it is not as obvious in AA and you need to specify which one you are talking about. Only a few like Max Galactica come to mind, but as they are not the game's core they end up being ugly characters in a beautiful game.

The parrot nailed being a parrot. Its drawing had good proportion. And, considering it is an animal, its higher calling is to serve humans, and it fulfilled that task nicely. It's a parrot full of beauty.

The walkie-talkie was indeed an aberration

>>386273482
Zero Escape is my favorite I'd say, really great game series, the third one was okay though

Dangan next since its fast and fresh

AA, I loved the first one, but proceeding through the series, it gets so fucking stale. I couldnt even finish 6. 5 I barely beat because I had nothing else to play.

>>386284910
Ghost trick, both Hotel Dusk games, and then you may be interested in VNs too.

>>386284661
>Characters don't act like students. Or like humans. They are way too eccentric, to the point of stupidity
You're really going to say the characters in AA act human?

Yes or no: Most DR fans haven't played any other VN/Adventure-style games besides DR?

>>386285156
how did you like azran legacy? only one I haven't played. guess I might as well finish up the series.

>>386285182
Actually, I really like the way you're presenting this, so can I shift the topic (with your permission) to something a bit different: I'd like for you to present me a character from Danganronpa, and I'll try to explain how they could be considered in a way realistic. Just for the fun, humane beauty of it.

>>386273869
Solid opinion.

>>386285296
I assume most played AA.

>>386285195
Games do tend to get stale after half a dozen entries (especially assuming you played Investgations)

>>386284282
Where's Investigations 1 my man? I'm genuinely interested in seeing what you think of it considering you place 2 so high.

Junko is a trash villain

>>386285357
Do Komaeda. I really want to like him.

>>386285296
Maybe the ones that avatarfag and shitpost.

>>386284382
This is precisely true, and its why nagito is a wonderful husband.

>>386285392
Inb4, it's boring, but necessary stepping stone

>>386285346
It does something interesting in the middle by basically letting you travel to different areas (though you have to complete all five) and as a conclusion to the prequel trilogy, it's alright. You learn the most about Layton's backstory and history. I say you might as well finish it up, before Lady Layton is out later this year.

>>386285392
Not him but most people consider it to be one of the worst in AA. I still like it more than AJ though.

>>386273482
Phoenix. It has more games.

>>386284517
Matt Engarde had what was essentially a split personality in 2002. And even then the characters that are "schizophrenic" (which isn't even the right word) in DR are retarded edgelords.

>>386285436
Komaeda has an innate problem to him: he's factually ill in the head with a disease that affects his trail of thought, corrupting his thought process. It's why he idolizes hope so much and falls to extreme actions more often than not. Still, he has a clear sense of morality to him, even if it's extremely skewed: he wants everyone around himself to better themselves using him as a stepping stone, and that was even his original goal in chapter 1 before Twogami saved him. Komaeda is a character I can't fully defend as "realistic", but I can fully defend himself as a well written and interesting character.

>>386273482
999>Most AA games>Danganrompa>Zero escape>other AA games>>>>>>>> Zero Time dilemma

It's such a shame the zero escape series just got worse as it went along

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>>386285271
I would say so, yeah. DR characters are walking anime tropes. AA characters are goofy, especially witnesses, but they still have act like humans most of the time. The best moments in the series are when shit hits the fan and the games get serious. These moments wouldn't be as impactful if the characters weren't serious enough prop up the story when it actually mattered.

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to be honest DR has one of the most cancerous fanbases and it attracts a bunch of autists.

>>386285093
plus i feel like the dialogue is worse overall (i love 6-2 though). while 2-3 is unbearable, i think the poor quality of 2 is concentrated only to that case and a bit of the first. the last case is my favorite in the series

>>386285616
Matt Engarde was pretending to be nice to trick Wright, he doesnt have DID.

>>386285696
>It's such a shame the zero escape series just got worse as it went along
Fuck off. VLR was better than 999.

>>386285532
I think AAI is consistently just fine. There is nothing that'd make you bang your head due to stupidity, but there are no any heights to remember it fondly by.

I was in awe during first two cases of AJ. Second case is underrated, I was really digging this setting the game built with Apollo running around with Trucy, Nick ghost lawyering, Ema being tocuhy detective who secretly does forensic work for them and Klav who isn't a total asshole, rarity for prosecutor. And then it decided it's not the setting.

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DR2 > DR1 > DRV3 > DRGirls

VLR > 999 >>> ZTD

AA2 last case > AA >= AA3 > AA4 > AA2 rest

>>386285723
DR's thing is subverting those anime tropes, though. Chiaki's the perfect waifu because she was actually created to be one and ends up dying permanently, Sayaka's the childhood friend who ends up being a total snake and the first victim, etc. They're all subversions of some kind.

>>386285849
Oh, fuck off, DRV3 is easily better than DR1.

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Who's ready for Danganronpa Arena in the future?

>>386273482
Phoenix Wright. Damganronpa 3 has the shittiest ending possible (It's a fake reality show, lol!) and I've heard bad things about ZTD.

>>386285532
>>386285839
AA at its worst is still decent. I've yet to play one that I've outright disliked.

Why do so many people hate AA case 2-3? I didn't think it was anything super special but I don't get why it always gets WORST CASE EVER status.

>>386285849
>VLR > 999
Not by a long shot, one actually works as a self contained story.

>>386285987
>drv3 has a bad ending

Look at this fag who's just going off of what he heard.

>>386285945
DRV3 is bad all around final act not even worth touching.

How can you call ace attorney consistent when it's had more fuckups than good content at this point?

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>>386286017
This faggot.

>>386286059
Even DRV3's worst case(the final one) is better than the best case in DR1 (case 2.)

>>386286004
Ech, the more I think about Dual Destinies, the less I like it. I can't think of a decision it made I liked besides jump to 3D which works just fine. And giving Apollo proper spotlight.

>>386286024
A shitty self-contained story that isn't impressive at all, has a fucking retarded villain with a retarded motive, and a cast of boring characters.

>>386286047
Well, althought superficial, that's how V3 ends,

>>386286017
Annoying witnesses, and the leaps of logic. I still prefer it to LETS WATCH THAT VIDEO ONE MORE TIME

>>386281741
they brought back the animations that were missing on the 3ds.

>>386286195
I was saying he was a hearsay-fag for saying it's bad. The ending for DRV3 is well done.

>>386286017
Circus characters were bad and the way the murder happened was just dumb.

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Which AA had the motherfucking circus case?

It was the worst thing ever in any visual novel type game.

>>386286017
I think it's thanks to the characters being wackier than usual. Also, Moe's bullshit testimonies.
I've re-played it recently, and I think it's a okay case now. Still the worst one in JFA though.

2-4 > 2-2 > 2-1 > 2-2

>>386286047
V3 ending is junk that only a pretentious fedorist would find good.
It's a mockery of the franchise, and with shitty meta commentary as well.

>>386286370
V3's ending is the only ending in the series that actually feels "hopeful" at the end, which is the main theme of the series. It's not even a mockery of the franchise when it's clear that the whole thing is an alternate universe.

>>386286180
It's not my favorite but I liked 5-4/5-5 & 5-DLC a lot, not as much as other finale cases but they were still good. 5-1 & 5-3 were decent as well, 5-2 is the only case I fucking hated.

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>>386276380
Hey, anon You're alright

>>386286154
Shit taste. The only good case was the fourth case. Still don't like like Byakuya and it all stems from his stupidity in the second case.

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>>386286347
*2-4 > 2-2 > 2-1 > 2-3
Oops.

>>386286446
>the only ending in the series that actually feels "hopeful" at the end
Did you not play DR2?

>>386286487
i wouldn't call it stupidity but more like intentional sabotage.

>>386273482
Dangan>AA>>>>>>>>>>>Eating actual shit>>>>>ZE

>>386286525
I did, and it's not. It feels more sad and forlorn instead of hopeful.

>>386273482
Danganronpa killed my waifu 2 times
At least Athena is still alive
I haven't bothered to play any zero escape games yet

AA for a Mile.

>>386286603
>it's okay, it's all a virtual world and none of your friends died
>we are working towards getting the world back to normal
>you are not SHSL despair anymore
>don't lose hope, your friends have a chance of waking up

How the fuck was it not hopeful?

>>386286713
Your friends are still braindead with only a slim chance of waking up (which until DR3 was left as VERY slim, they could wait forever and nothing happens), the world's still fucked and the work's extremely slow, they'll forever be stuck avoiding literally everyone due to their past reputation.

Apollo having backstory was a mistake

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>>386283802
>ZTD is 9/10 on its own merits
that game is bad as a sequel and it would suck if ZE 1 and 2 never existed
You can like ztd as much as you fucking want but its still objectively bad. Its ok to like bad things anon, I sure do.

>>386286865
yeah, tough shit for them, but how is that worse than V3?
lol all your friends you knew until now were brainwashed and weren't their real selves
and they're all dead now
and Danganronpa is dead too
BUT IT DON'T MATTER CUZ IF WE BELIEVE FICTION IS REAL THEN IT'S REAL TO US

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Umineko EP1 is a masterpiece.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mVr0IUQ6BwE

>>386287018
It's more hopeful because the survivors choose to remember and accept the events they experienced as real to honor their fallen friends and move on to the future despite the far more logical choice being dying.

>>386286585
Considering you can get a game over in that case, I'd say Byakuya is dumb as fuck. Only thing they needed to do was make Byakuya interject to continue the trial before Monokuma names Makoto as the Blackened.

>>386287018
I havent played V3 yet but did Kodaka actually pull an umineko at the end?

>>386286904
Better than the retcon in AA5

>>386277001

>Everyone praising AA:SoJ

Other than the last case, that game was average at best. And the fourth case was an emabrsssment to the series as a wholes

>>386287227
DRV3 is an alternate universe where Danganronpa is a reality show, with V3 being the 53rd season of it. All the characters are people who entered the competition, got their minds wiped and inserted with fake personalities and then put into a killing game scenario they believed to be real, similar to DR2 and DR1.

>>386287270
honeymooners
Same thing happened when DD came out and everyone kept sucking its dick

I like them all, but 999 felt to me more of a visual novel than a "game". None of the puzzles were hard. That said 999 had a good story. VLR had harder puzzles, and an alright story, I also liked it. ZTD wasn't great.

Danganronpa seemed like it was a better "game" to me, though it's basically really similar to AA.

AA 1-3 were great. Haven't played any after Apollo Justice

So I guess Ace Attorney 1-3 (I don't remember these well enough to seperate them)>Danganronpa 2 > Dangan 1=999=VLR>>>ZTD to me.

>>386287256
What retcon? Are you talking about Clay?

Danganronpa was boring as fuck.

>>386287312
Eh, that seems like the kind of thing you would find in DR. Good to know that at least they didnt bring back Junko.

>>386287736
Junko's kinda back, but it's like a joke. The cosplayer's the mastermind and she cosplays as Junko for a bit for tradition's sake, but Junko herself isn't back.

>>386287174
lack of gameplay story segregation I guess? he did say that he was going to interject in case things went south.

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I love Junko!

>>386288162
I wanna Junko Junko's Junkos.

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999 > AA3=Layton 3 > Layton 2 > DR2 > VLR > AA1 > AA2 > Layton 1 > DR1 > POWERGAP > Taking a really bad shit the day after having some Papa John's even though you enjoyed it at first in a retarded kinda way > ZTD

Zero Time Dilemma is still the most I will ever be disappointed in a game. I was so fucking hyped for it.

>>386287351

DD was good though. Doesn't touch the original trilogy, but better than SoJ.

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>zero
>great first and 2nd games, fucked up hard on the third
>danganronpa
>great first game, degraded on the 2nd and just fucking sucked shit on every single attempt afterwards
>AA
>I'm 2 intelligent to be a nintendoshitter

Is it a meme to hate Yamazaki's AA games? AAI2 is amazing and SoJ is great, DD is eh.
The only bad AA game he made is Investigations 1 and I can forgive that one for being a setup for an exponentially better sequel.

>>386273482
I like them all too much. These are pretty much the only games I buy at launch anymore.

>>386288275
Layton, on the other hand, can suck a cock. Done with that series after the shit they pulled with Azran.

>>386288583
DR2 is better than the first due to having better cases (they are about equal in everything else).

>>386288696
As much as I love puzzles, Layton should have ended with 3. It was pretty much the pinnacle and everything after felt kinda half assed.

>>386285434
Yep

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>>386288583
>>great first game, degraded on the 2nd

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>>386288162
Good for you, anon.

>>386288162
>>386288206
>typical discussion of Danganronpa

>>386286627
Miles Edgeworth?

>>386281998
A-Alisue?

Ace Attorney>Zero Escape>>>>>>>>>>>>>>A steaming pile of shit>Danganronpa

>>386288583
The payoff and twist at the end of 2 was better than 1's.

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>>386277354
>>386277958
It could be worse

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to be honest I don't really like the direction mainline AA took after AJ.
ZTD fucking killed ZE for me, even if VLR remains as one of my favorite VNs
I never expect anything great from DR because the writing and plot is trash. I just like to solve cases.

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>>386289904
Yes it could

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>>386289273
Do you think Pearl will develop as much "spirituality" as her big cousin Mia?

>>386289929
>to be honest I don't really like the direction mainline AA took after AJ
Same. There are way too many main characters now and it's obvious Yamazaki doesn't know what to do with them.
>AA1 has Nick, Mia (who is absent from a good chunk of the game), Maya, Edgeworth and Gumshoe
>AA2 adds Pearl and Franziska, who replaces Edgeworth for most of the game
>AJ has Apollo, Trucy, Nick, Klavier, Kristoph (see Mia) and Ema
>SoJ has Nick, Apollo, Athena, Maya, Edgeworth, Pearl, Trucy, Ema, Simon, Rayfa and Nahyuta
It's okay when they appear only in one case like Simon did, but having tons of characters leads to odd stuff, like Athena, who was obviously being set-up to become a protag like Nick and Apollo, having only one case in SoJ. And they don't need to appear in every single game.

This kind of stuff is why I don't want Gumshoe and Franziska back.