FRIENDLY REMINDER THAT GENESIS IS SUPERIOR TO SNES

>>386246609
Nintendon't make bad games

>>386246609
Okay.
SNES was still pretty good, though.
What does blast processing even do?

>>386246609
>Sonic is better than Mario
Not even close

>Streets of Rage is better than Final Fight
True

>Phantasy Star is better than Final Fantasy
The dumbest statement in history

>Ristar is better than Kirby
Sure, I guess.

>Contra Hard Corps is better than Contra 3
True.

>Castlevania Bloodlines is better than Super Castlevania 4
Debatable. I prefer IV but both are great games.

>Aladdin on Genesis is better than Aladdin on SNES
I hear this a lot and just don't agee at all. Basically the only reason people ever give is Genesis has a sword. Problem is, the sword isn't fun to use at all. Graphics aren't as good. Platforming isn't as good. Music and sound isn't as good. SNES Alladin is way better.

>Genesis got blast processing
You realize there is literally no such thing as blast processing, right?

>>386246609
>Super Metroid
>Starfox
>Mariokart
>Donkeykang Country

I could go on but you already know SNES had a much better and had a much wider range in library than Genesis could ever dream of.

SNES RPGs

>Final Fantasy
>Earthbound
>Secret of Mana
>Chrono Trigger
>Mario RPG
>Breath of Fire
>Tales of Phantasia

Genesis RPGs

>Phantasy Star
>???

Phantasy Star is also repetitive and stupidly ugly. Don't get the hype.

>>386247675
shining force
landstalker

most of the squeenix rpgs didnt make it to europe

I own an equal amount of SNES and Genesis games (40-50). I noticed Genesis games are not as polished as SNES titles.

The SNES's best is greater than the Genesis's best. Genesis is better though if you like sports games, shmups, and arcade- like games though.

Am I the only person who thinks the Genesis Mk. II looks so much better than the original?

>>386248924
It looks way better, but it has inferior sound compared to the launch model.

>>386248924
depends on region, pal version has obnoxious red buttons

>>386247675
>SNES RPGs
Also Dragon Quest and SMT.

>>386247176
It's creepy to see someone express so many opinions in a row and be 100% right about all of them

>>386247176
>>386251121
I mean, he said Mario is better than sonic, so he isn't 100% right

Friendly Reminder you probs like the console your parents bought you over the ones they didn't buy you. I got a Mega Drive so i am a Mega Drive boii

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>>386247176
>The dumbest statement in history
Qualify this. What makes FF6, a piss easy game memorable for a sad gril with green hair and a le ebit sneezy tornado man and his octopus pal better than Phantasy Star 4?

>>386251202
It is though. Sonic and Mario's relationship as franchies is like when you told your parents you wanted Lucky Charms and they came home with a box of Big Value Leprechaun Marshmallows.

>>386251367
nothing, phantasy star 4 is one of the god kings of that era of gaming, its easily comparable to chrono trigger, but it gets over looked because of the genesis meme

>>386251367
Because FF4 and FF5 are on the SNES too. The latter is flat out better and the former did more to set the genre's standards than almost any other game.

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>>386246609
>SNES had more 3rd party support
>Sold more
>Games sold more
>Had better hardware and graphics.

You're a fucking retard if you think Genesis won. I do agree that Streets of Rage and Hard Corps shit on Final Fight and Contra 3.

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>>386251367
Phantasy star series is boring, unbalanced, grindy, archaic shit.

>>386251873
Why did 3rd parties abandon Sega during Genesis? Notice most games Sega had to actually publish and help fund development like with Aladdin.

>Genesis Audio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2oyweqZ7WM
>SNES Audio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUBIRnlcaoI

Enjoy your fart noises Segays.

>>386247787
If you include tactical games you have a shit ton more for the SNES too, like Ogre Battle, Tactics Ogre, Bahumut Lagoon. Plus you have games like Treasure of the Rudras and Saga that weren't mentioned.

Blast Processing.

Nothing more to say than that. Genesis had superior hardware and on this there is no debate.

>>386252213
>Genesis Audio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjviLtJLheo
>SNES Audio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ae1GGe_28HE

It's amazing how Segays can even try to argue about Genesis having good audio quality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEmDpKsMJWc
https://youtu.be/OOZw35By9f0

Enjoy your shit soundcard.

_DKC_ > Sonic > Mario

>>386252826
Arrow dyslexia: the silent killer

>>386246609
Sega has the best versions of Earthworm Jim 1 and 2.

>GENESIS IS SUPERIOR TO SNES
Compare
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH7d89ndrBw
to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMLgBmO4ppY

>>386246609
SNES and Genesis / Mega Drive (PAL) are roughly comparable, but the Super Famicom has much more hidden gems than the Mega Drive (JP), though.

>>386252938
>Earthworm Jim 1 and 2.
Earthworm Jim 1, most definitely. Earthworm Jim 2? I disagree, you can't switch the weapons on the Genny.

>>386252756
What's bad conversion?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgDeGGa486w

Name one(1) good game that isn't a platformer or rpg on the Snes.

>>386252930
>Arrow

>>386253145
>implying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR1W_OsAc6k

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Why are Segafriends still in denial?
The SNES is the greatest console of all times, there's no shame in coming second.

>>386253238
F-Zero

>>386253238
Gundam Wing: Endless Duel

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name a better 16-bit shooter

>>386253447
I bet you've never actually played this and just fell for the metal cover meme.

>>386253341
/v/ is fucking segagaf. They need a containment board.

>>386253505
I did play it though and I like the original soundtrack.

Hey Segays, find me a better bassline in a Sega game, I dare you!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NxLhX5W4dw

>>386253145
Never liked that remix in Bloodlines.

>>386251428
Ah, Sonic and Mario is eating the Big Value stuff, then finally getting some of that Fruity Pebbles/Lucky charms hybird that they sell when you Dad does the groceries instead and lets you choose what you want.

>>386246609
>Sonic is better than Mario
Nope.
>Streets of Rage is better than Final Fight
Nope.
>Phantasy Star is better than Final Fantasy
Nope.
>Ristar is better than Kirby
Ristar is fucking good. The fact that it never got a sequel is a goddamn crime. But still, nope.
>Contra Hard Corps is better than Contra 3
Debatable.
>Castlevania Bloodlines is better than Super Castlevania 4
Oh hell fuck yes, Bloodlines is one of the best entries in the franchise by far. It doesn't help that SC4 is braindead easy.
>Aladdin on Genesis is better than Aladdin on SNES
lol, Nope.

SNES is superior in every way but Genesis is an extremely good console as well. Both are excellent and it shouldn't be about discussing which is better but more so about enjoying them both. Also, Genesis has Comix Zone which is still one of the greatest games ever made.

>>386246609
Depends on what you grew up with desu senpai

I grew up with genesis and then ps1 so I have no love for snes/mario/zelda

>ywn come home with your brand new SNES and experience this for the first time ever again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgibGs6K9M8

>>386254283
Final fight is shit compared to streets of rage

>>386253729
Here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tt-AFX526k

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>>386247675
Yeah, Genesis was sadly lacking in RPG department. I love me some Shining in the Darkness, though.

>>386246609
I had both and SNES is still the best.

>>386254506
>The Dark Sol of the Shining series

>>386246609
>>Sonic is better than Mario
lmao stopped reading there

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>>386254462

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>>386251367
Phantasy Star is an outstanding trilogy + first game that is now sadly forgotten because it was on Genesis and overshadowed by much more prominent SNES JRPGs. I remember being mindblown by its presentation back in the day.

>>386254462
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxi_kpDfUjA

>>386246609
No sonic even comes close to smw

I agree about aladdin, also genesis got lion king, and castle of illusion. Great games

The other stuff is subjective and/or bait

>>386254854
3&K comes close. It has a better story than SMW.

>>386247176
>>>>>Sonic is better than Mario
>mario, which at the time had 3 formulaic boring installments with nothing particularly stand out about them, even though they where revolutionary at the time
>sonic with each zone being uniquely themed and crafted, with amazing music and graphics for the time, being on a 16 bit system while nintendo was confident in its 8 bit system, only bothering to make the snes out of fear of the genesis competition
>You realize there is literally no such thing as blast processing, right?
Alright first off that was probably a joke, second of all blast processing refers to a technical exploit game developers could use to "blast" information to increase processing speed slightly in certain situations, the term was just blown out of proportion and became a marketing term

>>386254441
Streets of Rage is sillier, with shit like calling for police artillery back up while on a moving train and a fucking kangaroo as a playable character in the later games. It's a goofy ass game that's fun to laugh at but that's all that SoR has above FF.

>>386247675
>Phantasy Star is also repetitive and stupidly ugly.
take off those rose tinted glasses, the early final fantasy games are monotonous grindfests with very little strategy or thought behind gameplay beside your starting classes. Plus for the time phantasy star was a pretty good looking game, and honestly I think it still holds up.
But chrono trigger is good I'll give you that much.

>>386252674

Blast Processing literally doesn't exist. It's some bullshit they made up for marketing. It did have a better processor which is I guess what they were trying to get across. SNES has more color and detail and way better sound though. So Genesis really didn't have better hardware.

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>>386255012

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>>386246609
I think they really complemented each other way more than any console since in their strengths and weaknesses.

>>386254615
kek

>>386253238
Top fucking Gear.

>>386253238

Wild Guns

>>386255283
That's like saying HD doesn't exist. Like how 1080p is superior to 480p, having nearly double the ram of the competition is superior to not having it.

I actually find it offensive how bad the audio on Genesis was.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsVCuYDlQdY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fkrf_7taDfw

>>386255693

But on technical terms there is literally no such thing as "blast processing".

>>386255893
Why did the freaking Turbografx even sound better than the Genesis?

>>386255893
Genesis has way better tracks than those shitty SNES synths

>>386254971
Genesis Sonic is closer to the DKC trilogy in terms of quality than stuff like Super Mario World and Yoshi's Island. Sonic and DKC trilogies were great and had memorable music and graphics, but SMW and YI are on a whole other tier.

>Genesis kids never experienced such kick ass jams

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlxa4w-7DUI

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>>386253447
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnLAC5AJPuM

>>386254854

SNES also had lion king and had better sound.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmPXjDW9wmU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExiRkQ7YM3I

>>386256231

Denial.

>>386256549

Ok, that's pretty bad ass.

>>386255026
You didn't play streets of rage 2? Has none of those issues

>>386251121
>Ristar is better than Kirby
He isn't 100% there, anon

>all these nintenbabbies

>>386257237

>being butthurt over your childhood toy is objectively inferior to my childhood toy

>>386257213
I mean Ristar is pretty great but no sequels so sorry

>>386246609
>Sonic is better than Mario
No.
>Streets of Rage is better than Final Fight
Yes.
>Phantasy Star is better than Final Fantasy
Anything after FF6, yes, otherwise no. Still amazing series though.
>Ristar is better than Kirby
lol
>Contra Hard Corps is better than Contra 3
Nah, it's kinda wack. Ayyylien Wars is better.
>Castlevania Bloodlines is better than Super Castlevania 4
Nothing is better than Super Castlevania 4, best in the series: OST, sprites/color scheme, and d-pad whip-wang-wobble-wave.
>Aladdin on Genesis is better than Aladdin on SNES
Yes.
>Genesis got blast processing
>Does what Nintendon't
Those were some nice proto-memes.

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>>386253215
>Genny

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>>386251873
>Sold more means the console was better

>>386252213
>SNES
wavetable with pre-recorded instruments

>MegaDrive
Synthesis chip that actually generates its own sounds and instruments

>>386257421
>being disgusted over a nickname

>>386257213

I actually never played Ristar and I don't like Kirby that much so I just gave it to him.

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>Thinking the Super Slowdown System even has a chance against the Genesis

>>386246609
Had both, including the sega channel for the Genesis. so your concerns are not my issue, move along poor fag.

>>386257575
Fair enough.

>>386257639
Idorts win every gen.

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>>386246609
>they didn't play and enjoy both
>they had to fight over which one was better to make themselves feel better for just having one or the other
Why didn't you do yard work around the neighborhood to save up for the one your parents didn't get you, anon?

>>386257572
>using a disgusting nickname

>>386257717
>this
yard work, babysitting, basic chores, anything I could do, really. It wasn't that difficult and I liked all my neighbors, and all in all I got around $20 a week if all the neighbors had something for me to do.

>>386257717

When I was a kid I had some friends who had Genesis but I never liked the games I played on it over their house so I never even thought about it while playing Zelda and shit.

>>386257927
>Genny

>>386248924
>>386250110
I prefer 1st model. Looks cooler and has head phone jack

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>>386246609
>>Sonic is better than Mario

>>386246609
hahaha not even close. As someone who grew up in the generation and owned both in their prime I know that the Genesis is a 10/10 system. With that said... the SNES is the greatest system in all of history and most likely eternity. This isn't even up for debate.

>>386246609
You forgot that YM2162 sounds infinitely better than whatever turd snes had.

>>386259552
BWANNG

>>386252058
because Nintendo licensing agreements, that's why there was stupid shit like "Flying Edge"

>>386246609
Oh yeah? Well sonic is gay because he doesn't like Amy, and Mario is epic, and has a princess girlfriend.

>>386247176
>Graphics aren't as good
i was with you until this point but saying snes aladdin has better graphics than genesis aladdin is flat out wrong

i mean screenshots don't even do justice to just how smooth the genesis version animation is

>be a Genesis fag
>brag about how MK is better on Sega because blood
>never acknowledges II and III are both better on SNES

Genesis had real music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUaGadEfjro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgxkgGlkepk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrJyIO3XQro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APQDJOeDVB4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwgAhdwTql4

>>386259948

I just don't agree. While character sprites may be better I just think the SNES game is overall more animated, colorful and more detailed environments.

>>386256783
Some of the tracks on SNES Lion King were inferior though. It's not a clear-cut situation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3xkfzePp94
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTPRYy7OyXw

Also the SNES version isn't as fun to play. It has a lower resolution (which means less viewing distance) and the hitboxes are more bugged.

SNES had the superior RPGs
SNES has Mega Man X, DKC, and Super Mario Kart
SNES has the superior TMNT beat em up
SNES has the superior version of Zombies Ate My Neighbors
SNES has the better Capcom Disney games

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>all of these faggots shitting on the sega's soundchip

Have any of you even heard any Sonic music? I'm pretty sure you have and you're ignoring it for the sake of memes

>>386246609
Instead of going through all those meme arrows I'm just going to say each one of them can be replied with "Sure, the genesis games are pretty great but the SNES ones are masterpieces on a different scale"

If you honestly think PS4 is on the same level of a FFVI you're probably just bias or delusional or never played FFVI.

>>386261334
FFVI has a better story but at least PS4's gameplay isn't a piece of broken shit

>>386258563
S3&K is legit funnier to play than SMW but Yoshi's Island blews the Sonic games away.

>>386261038

When used appropriately it could produce music that used it's sound to it's advantage.

>>386261450

Neither is FF6's.

>>386261450
It has its exploits like the 99 level and some serious broken spells.

>>386246609
as far as hardware undeniable
as far as library pretty laughable

>>386261740
When the Genesis sound chip is used properly, you can kind the kind of clarity and sharp sound that's basically impossible to achieve on SNES.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtmgOO-6LKk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wpi8XUJcLhQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lHqeS-DSd4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50WmeIQ638c

>>386262461
>sharp sound
So sharp it makes your ears bleed.

Genesis had the first 3 Megaman games and debatably worse music thrown on a cart that never made it to America. Snes had the first 3 Megaman X games.

Just sayin

>>386262789
B-but Pulseman

>>386262461

It was cool for making rocking techno beats, but simply terrible for virtually everything else.

>>386262789
>Snes had the first 3 Megaman X games.

Don't forget 7.

>>386262789
Wily Wars was a butchered port.

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>>386262945
It is great for rock styled music as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnZxvr2lLdo

>>386260890
Genesis had better action RPGs like Shadowrun, Beyond Oasis, etc.
Genesis has superior run 'n guns like Alien Soldier and Atomic Runner
Genesis has Treasure
Genesis has the better Virgin/Disney Interactive Disney games including the better Lion King

>>386261794
FF6 has entire core mechanics not working and some of the worst balance in an RPG ever.

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>>386263446
Damn right it is
>mfw hearing this for the first time and getting to the 2:15 mark

>>386262945
Genesis was also quite good for non-techno non-rock experimental style music because of the quite unique sound you can achieve.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W02JzOZJQQE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QousDdXrjWo

>1993
>not owning a Genesis AND an SNES

What the fuck were you guys poor or something?

>>386263990
FFS forgot the link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iezNuPLRsWA

>>386263775
I agree, Genesis Shadowrun has to be among my favorite during that generation.

>>386246978
Damn son.

>>386263775
>better action RPGs

Zelda and Secret of Mana, Soulblazer, illusion of Gaia are all better, shadowrun is also on SNES.

>superior run 'n guns
Super Turrican 1 and 2, Metal Warriors and Cybernator.

Treasure is awesome lol.

>better Virgin/Disney Interactive Disney games including the better Lion King

This is the only thing that is debatable and no Lion King is not better on the sega.

>>386264218
>Secret of Mana, Soulblazer, illusion of Gaia
Look and sound nice but have absolutely garbage gameplay. All of /vr/ is in agreement on this. Even the SNES fans.

shitposting aside, genesis vs super nintendo is the only "console war" worth debating. every other gen its very obvious who the winner is unless your delusional or in denial

>>386247176
>>386260540

The graphics aren't even debatable. The genesis version action looks like the animated film. Particularly in motion, and has so much more personality than the snes version.

>>386264379
>have absolutely garbage gameplay

You're on crack. gtfo and never come back newkid.

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>>386246609

>>386264218
>shadowrun is also on SNES.
The Genesis and SNES Shadowrun games are different games.

>>386264407
people like to ignore wii's runaway sales success though and the war between xbox 360 and ps3 was damn close at the end

>>386264218
>Lion King is not better on the sega.
Yes it is. You can't see shit on the SNES version due to the low resolution and the hitboxes are ridiculously bugged.

>>386264218
Shadowrun SNES and Shadowrun Genesis are completely different games.

>>386264407
Yeah, it's even more obvious when you see how Nintendo has always been revolutionary, they saved the gaming world too many times to count

>>386264730
jesus, imagine being this insecure

>>386264407
>every other gen its very obvious who the winner is unless your delusional or in denial

This war is no different if you were actually around during the era. The only difference is this is a battle of a 10/10 vs a 20/10 whereas other eras there was only one 10/10 vs 7's and 8's.

>>386264816
What are you talking about?

>>386264913
you felt the need to talk about how great nintendo is even though i never said anything negative about them

>>386264583
You're crazy. I own both and grew up with the genesis version and the snes version looks way better.

>>386263775
Beyond Oasis is terrible.

Maybe if it had a better soundtrack it would be a good game, but good fucking god that noise.

>>386264954
Not at all, I just felt the need to state who saved gaming in the first place before any stupid arguments start popping up, nothing more

>>386264730
Shouldn't you be at band practice, Vinny?

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>>386264997
The SNES version of Lion King has way less dithering, that much is true, but there are just too many other downsides. It's very obvious that the resolution difference between the two is significant.

Aurally speaking, only half of the music at best could be called superior on SNES. Some tracks are great (like Hakuna Matata) but there are too many dud tracks where the samples they chose sound dull. The quality of the Genesis soundtrack is very consistent throughout. It doesn't reach the same highs as the SNES version but it doesn't have any dud tracks either. But the real worst offender of the SNES version is the sound effects? What the fuck were they thinking? They are completely horrible, and usually the Genesis version has worse sound effects. Not here.

And yes, the hitbox issue on SNES is a very real thing.

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>>386265348
>bad hitboxes in Lion King
I wouldn't fucking dare to try that version in that case.
>mfw remembering the logs and the lava level

>>386264218
SNES didn't have Gargoyles. I would genuinely love to hear how Lion King is better on SNES aside from a few songs when it has worse field of view and bugged collision. I will give you Cool Spot being better on SNES though.

>still salty over ancient console wars

Let it go

>>386265970
this. its been almost 30 years

>>386265805
Gargoyles is pretty sweet. And I'm not going to ramble on here about why the snes is better because I don't care enough what you think. Just go look up all the comparisons online and see for yourself. Pretty much everything is better on the SNES though besides Robocop vs Terminator and Contra Hard Corps which isn't a fair debate because it's more of a sequel and it came out years later so it should have been better.

>>386266289
>Pretty much everything is better on the SNES
lol no
SNES has too many fucked up ports like thunder spirits and earthworm jim

the port of toy story had to have a level removed cause the SNES couldn't handle it and the FPS level which was retained was significantly nerfed on SNES

I dabbled a bit with making music for the megadrive and I came to the conclusion that people just didn't know what they were doing. And it shows even in "good" examples of music posted here.
I mean, why is so hard to find stuff with this audio quality for other games?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdY4EKAcW4Q

>>386246609
Who the fuck cares you cunt. You can play whatever tou like since rompacks are like 2gb for the full set

>>386266689
1) FM sound chips more difficult than the alternatives to use properly
2) Most western developers can't into FM and the Genesis had a disproportionate number of western games.
3) Many Japanese developers that worked on Genesis didn't put much effort into it cause the console was virtually dead in Japan. Although when Japan did actually give a flying fuck, the results were amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=244ZH1DNHlI

>>386266289
I love both systems although I favor the Genny because the action games tend to be faster, I prefer FM synth, and the RGB output is generally better. That said, there are plenty of instances where a dual system release is better on SNES, or debatably better on SNES.

But none of that matters. What matters is that you seem to believe Lion King is better on SNES when that is objectively wrong. Fuck the "look up all the comparisons online" thing. Play that shit on original hardware and make up your own damn mind.

>>386246609

The Sega Genesis Home Alone 2 game is miles better than the SNES version

This was the only generation besides the one directly after it that really necessitates having both consoles (the one after really necessitates N64 and PS1).

They're both fucking great

>>386268071
Gamecube's library was better than the N64 though.

>>386268305
Not really. With a few minor exceptions like Melee you had inferior sequels like Sunshine, Wave Race, 1080, etc and arguably Wind Waker and F-Zero GX. And then you had a whole bunch of third party games that the N64 didn't get, but most of those ports were shoddy and loads better on Xbox.

>>386268738
Sunshine > 64
F-Zero GX > X
Wind Waker kind of sucked and I didn't play the rest. Gamecube finally picked up with third party support though, Resident Evil for example.

>>386253238
Zombies ate my Neighbors

>>386268839
doesnt count, nintendo had to pay for those games to come on the gamecube

>>386267461
>Play that shit on original hardware and make up your own damn mind.
I have, a 100 times over. I've owned them both for 20 years and the snes is better.

>>386254462
This was actually good.

>>386268738
N64 didn't have Metroid.

>>386246609
Had no good RPGs

>>386268839
>Sunshine > 64
Nah
>F-Zero GX > X
Only if you thinks graphics are more important than gameplay.

>>386269039
True, Metroid Prime is one of Gamecube's best assets, alongside Melee. But I can't really think of too much else going for the console. REmake and RE4 were good though, though the former was ultimately just a very spruced up PS1 game.

Nintendo lost every generation.

>>386269231
F Zero X gameplay was barebones, GX was a straight upgrade. Track design was way more interesting in GX.

>>386269370
The track layout is in fact very similar between the two games. Don't let GX's fancier backgrounds fool you. GX's biggest problem is the handling and physics model isn't as fucking A1 as F-Zero X.

>>386253145
https://youtu.be/eRnCyiTBgaQ
https://youtu.be/OVG7Sz176IU