What grand strategy game are you playing right now?

None, because I feel like I've outgrown their ability to provide interesting and accurate depictions of economics, and because I can't stand the shit Paradox has been doing lately.

>play Czechoslovakia with new ebin DLC
>built forts along the border, sitting tight while waiting for Germans to waste their manpower
>my divisions start randomly redeploying to different parts of the front
>there are no battles in places they are trying to redeploy towards, they just want to go there for some reason
>germans start pushing my borders because random division movement frequently leaves holes in the defences
Is there a way to turn off this retardation? I don't want my troops to run around like headless chickens because they feel like it.

>>386241698
Just go play Darkest Hour

>>386241368
college

>>386241368
I'm not, because all of them have been ruined by greed.

>>386241368
Life.

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>>386241368
stellaris

>>386241698
I think there's a mod for it. Better Frontline AI or something.
Check the workshop.

>>386241368
Which is better to start playing hoi3 or hoi4?

>>386242358
Fuck off Johan

>>386242358
>hyperlanes
How can you stand this

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>>386241368
Stellaris with like a million mods since wiz (the lead) cant make a strategy game strategic...

>>386244403
Strategy games don't have to be strategic, they have to be good.

>>386241368

Crusader Kings 2, what else?

>>386243163

Hoi 3

>>386243163
They're not even close to being the same game. HoI3 is perhaps the most complex GSG ever made, HoI4 is watered down and braindead in comparison. HoI4 isn't necessarily bad, but it's definitely not a sequel to HoI3. I wouldn't recommend HoI3 to a GSG beginner though, HoI4, EUIV, CK2, and perhaps Victoria 2 are better places to start.

this genre is in a recession.

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daily reminder

>>386244726
whoever made this seems pretty fucking butthurt themselves but it's still all facts.

>>386244725
Blame that no one besides Paradox are making halfway decent and moddable games

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>>386244464
>Strategy games don't have to be strategic

Nigga what ?

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>>386244726
true. fuck germs.
whole world should be polish kingdom t b q h

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>>386244464

>Strategy games don't have to be strategic

>>386244726
Some butthurt turk made this, obviously.

None, I find them too boring once you inevitably become an unstoppable blob. The early game is the only good thing about these games

>>386244596
Thanks! Will try hoi3 then, because I already played eu4 and stellaris

>>386245867
HoI3 is autismus maximus. HoI4 is casualis universalis.

>>386242358
>5 DLCs away from being a decent game.

They keep adding shit that the game doesn't need. Who cares about a bunch of end game scenarios when the game is so boring you can't make it past 100 years.

>>386241540
This. Also add the fact that the AI in these games tend to be mind numbingly dumb and provide no challenge, even when given a massive economic advantage.

More Grand Strategy games need Vicky's economics and political simulation mechanics.

>>386244403
What the fuck is this thing? Is it real?

>>386246387
Preferably something more inclusive and balanced this time.
Important addition would be cost/distance.

Cuckold Kings 2 with lewd mods.

>tfw my uncle's wife blows me for pocket money because he has a small dong

>>386246085
>>386245867
>>386244596
>HOI3 IS SUPER ADVANCED

It's really not. You set up OOB and fuddle with the supply system, that's it. That's the whole game.

Vicky 2 is far more intricate and has way more depth.

>>386246428

yes its real

>>386244726

so true

>muh serbia

every balkan state tried to defend themself against turks as much es they could

>>386246731
>Vicky 2 is far more intricate and has way more depth
It's really not. Sure there are more different goods and the game's "times are changing" feeling gives it a good feeling of progess but the lack of things like supplylines and seasons makes it a lot more shallow.
Better economics though.

>want to replay Hoi3
>don't want to do OOB ever again

What should I do?

>>386244726
>Being this butthurt
wew lad

I haven't played one in a few months. I plan on getting back into EU4 eventually.

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It's always fun when crazy shit happens in these type of games

>>386247134
Can I just play without OOB?

>>386246428
I think it's a sea slug

>>386248461
Other than that they traded most of Spain for most of France this seems pretty accurate desu

>>386241368
>>386242358
>>386248461
None of you are playing grand strategy game

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>>386243975
Experimenting mostly, I wanted to be forced to go tall (didn't happen).
Also if make game hyperline only for every civ, it creates quite a lot of important systems to capture which makes it a bit more interest
still hyperline lose relevance after getting jump drive anyway
>>386243861
who
>>386246202
it's fine for few sessions between patches
>>386248461
well gee, sorry for having fun

>>386249085
yup, historically speaking this is fairly accurate
however mechanically speaking the habsburgs virtually NEVER come into power given they start as mere counts

the habsburgs reuniting the carolingean empire is weird

>>386244726
>being so assmad that you are completely unintelligible
I don't even know what your argument is about but I know you've already lost

>>386249307
>well gee, sorry for having fun
meant for >>386249216

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>>386249216
Ebin

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CK2, what else?

>>386249784
>unironically playing Hoi4
Just play Darkest Hour if you want a casual version of Hearts of Iron. Darkest Hour at least has some depth to it, unlike that abortion of a game you're playing.

>>386249879
HOI has always been casual,HOI4 is only good for Kaiserreich anyway.

>>386249359
People aren't allowed to like Germany because they are evil nazis.

Kaiserreich is better than the base game, and it's free. Is Paradox the most retarded company in the industry?

>>386249967
If you want to actually play KR then play Darkest Hour.

You know, the game that KR was originally made with?

>>386250037
Holy fuck no one cares you autistic piece of shit

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>>386250102

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>>386250173
You're the average /v/ autist who spergs and breaks things in his room because someone dares to play something that he doesn't like

>>386250010
Current Paradox is extremely incompetent,they can't even make decent looking maps anymore.

>>386250037
Yes and the HOI4 version has nearly all events included already anyway,i also never liked how the military system worked in DH and there are too few provinces.

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It's what I play for

Victoria 2

>>386244726
t. reed

>>386250465
>when your loli wife cucks you with your shota liege
I never asked for this.

>>386244865
>>386245807
>>386247661
>>386249359
>waaaaaaaaah you can't make funny images mocking my autistic needs
lmao

>>386250714
t. Turklet

>>386250465
What mods? Children can't join societies as far as I know.

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I'm playing EvW

>>386250714
t. Roach

>>386241368
kaiserriech is even worse than vanilla hearts of iron, the premise sounds interesting but the AI can't handle it at all

>>386241368
Stellaris

>>386251049
Funny, because the DH AI can handle it just fine.

>>386250925
I thought the game was never released.

>East Germany invading west Germany without getting nuked to shit by NATO
>East Germany having free will and not being a Soviet puppet
I like strategy games, but they often really fail to get the whole "mutually assured destruction" aspect into effect.

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>>386250694
>your loli granddaughter hates your fucking guts because you abducted her and tortured her into Lucifer's own
>the little minx ends up throwing an orgy that is so GOOD that you can't stand cocks anymore and have a new taste for meet
>you also find true love with your granddaughter and she forgives you for your actions

>>386250848
No mods, happened when the dlc first came out , if you can't do it now they must of patched it out.

>>386250925
Stop anon
The old wound still hearts

>>386251174
Maybe that's because it's an unreleased alpha you goddamn retard.

>>386251104
that's interesting, but irrelevant

>>386251196
If it's unreleased, how can you play it?

>>386251191
I never liked the demonic cults and usually turn off supernatural events. They're too overpowered if you ask me.

>>386251341
Not at all, because you're talking about an inferior version of a mod that's been around for a long time.

>play civ, /v/ says civ is casual and grand strategy games like hearts of iron is where it's at
>play hoi4, it's even simpler than civ, /v/ says hoi4 is casual and eu4 is where it's at
>play eu4, it's even more boring than hoi4 and I spend 90% of my time waiting for my points to fill up so I can paint some more borders
How far down the rabbit hole do I have to go before I attain strategy nirvana?

>>386251479
Victoria 2 is the only good GSG.

I played Stellaris for maybe 30 hours in two days and now I've reached the point where i'll wait for one-click shipbuilding to be patched

>>386251380
Devs leaked it after it was cancelled

>>386251505
Tried that aswell and found no interesting ways to interact with the game as the economy seemed to manage itself

>>386251479
Play Hoi3, EU3, Vicky 2, and March of the Eagles.

That was before Paradox became full retard

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>>386244726
So fucking glad they lost and now they serve as breeding grounds.

>>386251479
There's a very very deep rabbithole for Grand Strat. Everything by Paradox, maybe with the exception of Hoi3 and Vicky 2 is casual and easy to get into.

For some of the semi-deep stuff try Panzer Corps or Rise of Prussia Gold.

>>386249353
The Habsburgs literally became emperors and shiet becuase they were irrelevant. Check out my bro Rudolf, the first Habsburg emperor. He was basically the medieval Antinine Pio (the old irrelevant guy who founded a decent dynasty).

>>386251380
I agree completely, but I play ck2 so much that that I have to hold my self back so I don't blob hard or end up with a kingdom/empire. The events are basically what I look forward to the most when I play ck2 and while gameplay wise they can throw off the balance and add even more power to your arsenal, The events in the new dlc can at least spice things up and keep things interesting.

>>386251809
>Check out my bro Rudolf
Not that I'm pointing at you or anything, but I remember reading some posts where an anon claimed to be a decendant of German nobility. While he's just a regular neet, being from such a family gives him extra work when he has to do things related to his bank because there are special laws for such former nobility. He probably plays Crusader Kings II as well.

>>386244726
Whites are mad that Turks invaded and fucked them for hundreds of years.
You don't see the same butthurt from countries that were invaded by whites. Yet when someone does to whites what whites have been doing to hundreds of people around the world they get upset.
It's a good thing they're dying out.

>>386244726
>all those replies
it's true, they fucking love Prussia man.

>>386252114
>I have to hold my self back so I don't blob hard or end up with a kingdom/empire
I'm doing the same thing right now. I've buildt as tall as possible and made the republic of Denmark and pretty much gotten the best income possible in the entire game.
To keep things challenging I try to spread the Germanic religion to as much of Europe as possible, while not expanding myself. There've been quite a few cases of "Put my son in power of christian lands so he can rule and convert them. Oh no, he converted to christianity. Time to dethrone him." but it keeps the game going. Also catholic powers are very weak because they're attacked from all sides, and despite being a little rigged to win (more holy orders than other religions) they're losing. Byz and Umayaad are making sick gains though, but out of my reach to stop them.

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>>386252217
>You don't see the same butthurt from countries that were invaded by whites
South Africa says hello. Rhodesia too.

>>386241540
fippy bippy

>>386246693
which do you recommend? DarkWorld and the plugins?

>>386247134
you can play DH

>>386244726
fuck off /gsg/

>>386252915
Darkworld is broken and shit.
>Monsters for no reason
>Everyone is a whore
>Buildings so overpowered they break the game

>>386252142
That's not me. I am descendant of farmers and craftsmen.

>>386253594
>New IP

>>386253771
Oh, shit! You caught me :^)

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>>386252565
>I've buildt as tall as possible
Man of taste I see, I too am having a religion crisis in my latest game and after 200 + years of catholic heresies Dividing Europe I'm finally starting to bring order back.

>fucking snow niggers in the HRE take up the Arian heresy
>Not that big of a deal but after 30 or so years fucking France follows.
>these two chuckle fucks BLOB hard with holy war casus belli and whats worse because it's so popular Arian parasites have started forming secret society's all throughout Spain and even as as to Byzantium.
>Catholicism is now a heresy of fucking arianism and the pope is dethrones thanks to snow niggers
>have to usurp the British throne so I can have enough power to bring back Christianity back to it's former glory

This image was the turning point. There are 4 big blobs at this point, 5 if you count the two mongol blobs in the east. Britain, france, HRE and lastly the byazantine empire (which is being torn from within by catholic secret society's)

Portugal is about to be absorbed by France, so I ally with them to curb France power. So what do they do? they ally with the HRE and the fucking byzantine empire. So now the the whole map is red and world war 1 happens. This game was nuts man, lots of wierd shit. Look at the map and you can see Hungary was taken over by catholic Breton mercenaries and I had a demon spawn defend the faith and recapture Jerusalem.

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>>386254443
>catholic heresies dividing europe

>>386241368
nothing, i would play if i could simply use a trainer to start as some wewuz- tier insignificant country and destroy all other countries with cheat codes.

>>386254443
Knowing CKII that war is going to last decades unless someone agrees to a white peace, and then it'll all have been for nothing.

As for my game, because I play as a republic, daughters are pretty useless to me, and most of the powers I've put down in central Europe, with the exception of France, are my dynasty, so I can ally with them anyway. I've really no need for daughters, but because I'm germanic I can make them shieldmaidens and use them as generals in addition to the usual training for the spymaster post.

>Tfw my daughters have led armies for two generations
>Finally some proper replacements appear and I can give them much deserved retirement
>Both are now known as "the valkyrie"
I was damn proud of those girls.

>>386254895

>when Catharism takes over 90% of Mainland Europe and only Hungary remains Catholic

That was the weirdest Scandinavia game I ever played. A Protestant holy land in the coldest European nation while the rest of Europe embraced Dualism.

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>>386255034
nothing more romantic than to have family lead your army and watching them succeed as Brilliant generals. Be proud and cherish their victories.

War is already done, it ended anticlimactically 4 days after his allies agreed to join the great war. France is broke which means no more blobbing and say hello to political in fighting. Catholicism is no longer a heresy.

>>386256195
it's easier to burn my neighbors to ground in civ v, i might buy civ 6 some day.

>>386251479
distant worlds is where its at pal, its free too

>>386256494
mistake its aurora 4x

>>386256584
4X and grand strat are not mutually exclusive.