>biggest release of the previous year >now has 10% of players

>>386240169
slow progress and shit balancing

>>386240169
Casuals aren't loyal, they probably moved on to the next big meme game, PUBG.

>>386240169
It's what I said it was last year, a $60 version of Tf2+League.
The threads are even the same.

>>386240169
it's boring and only managed to trick people because of blizzard, unlockables and high production values

PUBG is the new meme game now

>>386240169
Event locked cosmetics aren't content.

Event locked modes are also not content, even if they have a lot of effort in them.

That's what happens when 90% of the roster is worthless.
>Blizzard still thinks Orisa is okay

>>386240597
>>Blizzard still thinks Orisa is okay
Is this real? I NEVER see orisa played

>>386240448
Wait until Destiny 2.

>>386240169
Lefty developers pandering to feminists, fucking niggers and fatties in all the updates.

>>386240169
Blizzard doesn't know good balance or good gameplay.
They can make the mechanics FEEL amazing, but they have no idea what a compelling goal is, or where the fun in PvP is.

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>>386240956
Dude, did you see her first "buff"?

>Shield cooldown reduced
>Initially she had a 15% damage reduction
>Everybody said reducing her damage was retarded
>"We hear you loud and clear"
>Damage reduced by 8%
>Everybody's face when

>>386241226
What the hell, who is in charge of this shit? Blizzard's balancing across all games are ridiculous.
>wait 6 months until everything falls apart to nerf something into the ground
>FIXED!

>>386240169
>Source:my ass
I haven't played Overwatch in months because of blizzards shit balancing and stale meta but I'm pretty sure you pulled that number out your ass.

>>386240169
>now has 10% of players it had a year ago
[citation needed]

Normies like PUBG now. Overwatch is fucking dead and only played by Blizzdrones.

>>386240169
>shallow
>boring
>repetitive
>terrible character and map design
I'm amazed it got so many idiots playing it. Guess that's the power of marketing.

>>386240169
Source

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Blizzard balances based around casual trash skill players. Ends up making balance retarded for those of us who aren't monkeys.

>>386240169
>biggest release
Because last year was one of the worst year for video games

>only 10% players left
because blizzard and casuals. Casuals ruins everything

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even dedicated comp players cant handle the retarded """""balance""""" decisions. My friend played in masters and saw braindead mercy players who should be in bronze just hopping and holding LMB.

Only like 5 characters in the game take any skill, the rest are just MOBA characters with auto shotguns

>>386241918
>last year was one of the worst years of gaming
explain

Is it really dropping like people say?

It wasn't a good game so people stopped playing it.

Also shit characters.

>3 maps and 3 heroes in one year

the worst content drop I've ever seen, every single season pass pumps more maps than that shit in the first 3 months of any other vidya

It has an abysmally low skill ceiling, lower even than assfaggots.

>>386242062
most of the games that released last year were a disappointment or fails to live up to the hype. It was also the major decline to japanese games and AAA games.

>>386242120
Of course not. Blizzard never releases active player counts for their game even when they're doing good. Anyone who says the game has X amount of players are just shitposters or shills.

That said I do think OW is losing a lot of steam lately and has gotten stale.

>>386242371
To be perfectly fair all of OW content is free whereas other games do the DLC/Season pass model.

>>386240169
Shit balance, no skill meta, barely any gameplay content added because blizz is too because making limited time skins and shit to put in boxes so they can make shekels.

>>386240169
>what went wrong
Balancing the game for casuals, as usual.

>>386242120
People who are complaining and saying bad things just mad cause they don't have it. The content is FREE once you've paid for the entire game, no DLC maps, or skins, or heroes. This paywall also protects you from neighbors from the south, so it's good, to pay for video games and receive future released content for free.

>>386243218
>The content is FREE once you've paid for the entire game, no DLC maps, or skins, or heroes
There is barely any content worth 60 doridos though. Like 4 new character in a year is okay I guess (though 2 of them are useless, maybe 3, not sure about doomfist) and how many? 2 maps? Which are shit anyway. However there is shitton of skins no one asked for.

>>386240336
>>386240169
>casuals lel
the moment ive heard about this games release i knew it would be a tf2 clone and that it will be MADE for the casual crowd like every blizzard game post 2010

i was indeed correct and didnt bother even trying this on my friends pc, i already knew it was shit

and now everything proves it self.

>>386244526
Any source you can prove that op is wrong?

OP is more credible than you.

But Overwatch right now is unplayable. The meta is now mandatory in ranked and the meta itself is just boring dive shit.

>>386240169
IT's just not a game you can play all day long, it gets boring really fast, its also really not streamer friendly, who the fuck wants to watch someone for 10 hours do the same shit

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>>386240169
>billion dollar company
>can afford to pay pro players to play test new content and give balance feedback
>instead Jeff "Platinum Players Are Elite" Kaplan is the one balancing everything

>>386244937
> post 2010
WoW was also the casual's MMO when it came out in 2004

>>386244937
Well, tf2 is also a casual game.

>>386245048
Hi this is Jeff from the overwatch team (swallow) ummmm this next update will feature new loot box skins and I'm really excited. You can pay an additional $2 to change the look of the loot box to any three skins of my cat and the loot inside will be exclusively sprays of your least favorite heros.

>>386240169
>shit balance
>shit variety
>few permanent maps
>only four new heroes
>won't use old assets for new maps

>It's a first persona MOBA game that's advertised as a FPS
ok
>It has a huge roster of interestingly designed and unique characters all with their own playstyles, however, in order to win you absolutely NEED 2 of those characters on your team at all times, limiting your actual options unless you just want to lose, also, never EVER pick any non-meta character that you're not incredibly skilled with otherwise there's still a good chance you'll lose
ok
>Taking Jewishness to a whole new level by adding in dozens of cosmetics i.e. Counter Strike but making it so you can't buy individual ones even if there's only 1 cosmetic item that you want, forcing you to buy their Jewcrates, especially during the limited time events
ok
>Limited time events that add in non-permanent gamemodes and maps, encouraging sporadic play instead of prolonging that game's life
lol ok
>Blizzard is too retarded to actually balance the game so whenever people whine about a character Blizz nerfs them into the ground effectively making them useless instead of just properly tweaking them to both properly fulfill their role and not be overpowered
nah nigga I stopped there

>>386240169
All cosmetics, no content.

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>>386240169
They balance the game to appeal to shitter faggots and take forever to release shitty new characters. They utterly destroyed Roadhog despite him NEVER getting picked in competitive play because little faggots cried that "BAAWW IT'S NOT FUN TO GET HOOKED AND THEN DIE WHAT WAS I SUPPOSED TO DO???". Sombra was fucking lame and Orisa was the god damn blunder of the century, bizarre ugly character design and an absolutely awful kit that's just recycled scrap from other superior characters.
>DUDE lets make a tank that can't properly defend anybody else OR herself lmao it'll be dope also she provides literally nothing that another character doesn't do better

>This fad somehow won GOTY over DOOM and Titanfall 2 standing only on hype and ass

Do you have a single source to that claim, OP?

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>Orisa was designed to make Reinhardt less of a mandatory pick
>the Overwatch team ACTUALLY BELIEVED people would choose Orisa over Reinhardt

>>386241663
I've tried explaining to friends who don't have any art-inclined hobbies or jobs how there's no synergy or unifying aspects in the Overwatch character design. They just tell me I'm full of shit and all the designs are great.

Casuals either don't pick up on how poorly the game's various styles blend or are too invested in the thing they paid for having to be good to admit it.

>>386240169
They killed Roadhog.
Reminder that Roadhog was containing the cancer, and then when Blizzard killed him, the cancer was unleashed.

>>386246376
>They utterly destroyed Roadhog despite him NEVER getting picked in competitive
Regardless of competitive, at Master and Grandmaster, Roadhog was the most picked character who wasn't a healer.

>>386246376
I honestly have no idea what they were thinking with Orisa. "Let's make an alternative to people who don't want to play Reinhart!", a good idea in theory until you realize that Reinhart is easily the best character in the game and they utterly failed to make a character that comes even close to comparing to him, effectively ruining the one thing she was made to do.

>>386240169
>now has 10% of players it had a year ago
Well would love to see nu-Blizzard eat dirt but source?

>>386246639
I have no fucking clue what they were thinking. Reinhardt's entire shtick is that he's a massive MOBILE 2000HP bullet sponge wall that can push forward. Getting close to Reinhardt even as speedy characters like Genji or Tracer can be really fucking precarious because he hits hard and wide. If he dies he has his charge to get back to the frontline fast, and Earthshatter is still one of the best ultimates in the game.

Orisa is slow as fuck, has no mobility skills, shits out a tiny barrier that nobody can hide behind but herself if she's using it, can't hit anybody because of her absurd spread if they're not moving in a predictable pattern, has the largest hitbox in the game, and her ultimate is incredibly reliant on the skill of her team. Jesus Christ Blizzard is retarded.

>>386246747
Now when you say best do you mean most broken, most fun, or takes the most skill to master? I gave up on the game before I even tried him.

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>>386246639
>>386246747
>>386246920
Even D.VA and fucking Winston can protect their team better than Orisa. How the fuck did they believe Orisa could ever provide the same role as Rein? This shit shows beyond a shadow of a doubt that blizzard has no clue what they are doing and I don't know how anyone can still have faith that they understand how to make a competitive video game.

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>>386246960
Reinhardt is objectively the best character in the game not in his ability to solo-carry or anything but in the fact that he is literally a 100% mandatory pick in 95% of all games because he fills the tank role absolutely perfectly and no other hero comes close to doing the job as well. Every other tank is basically a dps with lower damage and more HP and defensive options (except orisa who has low dps and low hp) but Rein is mobile, can fight for himself, and can protect his entire team at once constantly. He's also exceptionally easy to play well.

>Orisa was played for a whopping 27 minutes at the recent Korean tournament
>The second lowest was Zarya with 2 hours
A true testament to how garbage the horse robot pussy is, sadly.

>>386240169

It gets fucking dull. I said this during the beta and have recently watched lots of friends that unfortunately bought it at release say this. It's a goddamned boring game after so many hours.

>>386246960
He's mandatory in every team comp, because he's the only tank who can actually tank. Basically, he's a giant walking shield and you can't make a proper push without him.

>>386240169
Blizzard can't into balance, they only add more shit and it keeps getting worse

This entire thread is full of poorfags and bronze to gold shitters crying about nerfs and buffs in a game "they don't even play"

Probably a bunch of Nintenbros too. No Overwatch on the Switch doesn't mean it's a bad game anon. It just means the Switch is ass.

>>386246920
>>386246971
I like you guys because it makes it that much easier to roll people as horsebot because they underestimate her

>>386247557
I'm sure you "roll" with the character that his literally zero impactful abilities and a shitty gun.

>>386247557
>Pick Tracer/Genji
>Literally delete you by walking up to you
ty for the 6v5

>>386247534

Oh hey, console wars. How are you doing?

>>386246971
The worst part is, it's easy to see what they were trying to do with Orisa. She only really needs to major tweaks to make her actually viable:

1. Her shields need to be bigger, at least big enough to cover off entire choke points to make her viable on defense.

2. Give her the ability to put down at least 2 shields at a time instead of one.

How many hours played
Overbros who are still playing; do you still love it?
Overbros who stopped playing; what will make you come back?

>>386247930
Yeah, if she was properly tweaked she'd actually be really cool because she could plop down some shields and still be an active fighter while protecting her team and she wouldn't be as braindead as Reinhardt.

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Overwatch was always trash, the only reason why anyone played it was because it was popular.

>>386247930
I like Orisa, I think she's really underrated personally

But yeah she needs a buff or two to play with the big boys

>>386247534
oh hey casualfaggots. Still trying to defend your game for disabled and weeaboos?

>>386248070
wtf? why is that puppy so racist?

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>>386240169
It's not the '90s anymore, anon. Games just can't keep that retention anymore as there are so many more of them coming out now. You got your flash in the pan, longer if you have some pedigree, but any game's time in the spotlight is brief.

>>386248280
>It's not the '90s anymore, anon
Do you have a single shred of evidence to back that up?

I like how people randomly believed a shitpost because it just involved Overwatch and they look for any random reason to shit on it.

>>386248369
Based skeptic poster

>>386248369
It's just paladinfags mad nobody wants to play their skinnerbox

>>386241226
>character been buff/nerf
>instead of just fixing whats broken they add in a shit ton of other tiny tweaks as well

The game is fucking boring. The hitboxes are big, movement is slow and shitty, weapons and abilities are all braindead, levels are linear, simple, and full of invisible walls.

The game is a step away from being Call of Duty. It's trash, and even if you like the aesthetics, there's just nowhere for the game to develop. It's just a stagnating experience. You could play Team Fortress 2 for two thousand hours back in the day and still feel like you're developing as a player, and still feel engaged because the game doesn't have padded walls in every element of it's design to keep 14 year old children from getting frustrated.

Overwatch feels fucking claustrophobic to play. Play Quake for a while and then play Overwatch, it feels like you've gone from playing a first person shooter to some sort of fucking tank simulator. Overwatch is like a big plastic Fischer Price toy. It's an idiot's facsimile.

Even the fucking idiots who can't tell the difference eventually get tired of it and move on because there's nothing changing on any level. The game is programmed and designed to be played a single specific way, because they don't want anybody fucking around outside of their marketing demographic formula. They just want to plug idiots into their skinner box and have them go through their designed little routine so they can purchase more loot crates.

>>386240169
It's a bad game that people bought because of marketing. Then they realize it's bad and they drop it. Overwatch truly was fotm

>>386240234
fpbp

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>>386240169
Whats that? I game losing popularity over time?

Also not really any new content ever. Just some skins and 4 heroes, all minorities I might add

>>386241382
Just look at cuckstone. Meta shit for months because they release unbalanced shit. Now they're trying to fix it by releasing heavy hander counter cards in the next expansion which severely limits design space for a year until they rotate out

>>386240968
Very small chances of Destiny 2 being the new meme game, considering how badly it was received in the open betas and how much skepticism people have since the first one wasn't really all that great

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>>386246687
Your friends are enjoying something and you're actively trying to convince them that something subjective like art style is bad?

>>386249559
wut, 6 maps and new game modes and 3 new heroes is nothing new ever?

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>>386250339
>5 maps that add nothing new or interesting
>1 new map with low gravity, in a very small space.
>Capture the flag, a shitty horde mode, and a arcade gamemode which shouldve been there from the start
>Ana, Sombra, Orisa, W\e Waz Doomfist and Shieet

Where are people getting
Player base counts from? I can't find anything

>>386250250
You are retarded if you think Destiny 2 won't pull huge numbers and be consistent until there is some drought.

That said, the drought will happen. They only launch with 1 raid again meaning people will run out of content before the next raid comes with a 15 dollar price tag

>>386250778
Where OP gets everything normally, out of his gaping asshole

>>386249603
>severely limits design space for a year until they rotate out
I think you mean 2 years.

>>386240169
The people who came for a fun casual shooter like TF2 was disappointed by the focus on competitive shit, and the people who came for the competitive shit were disappointing by the simplicity and bad balancing.

>bought the game because all of my friends did
>play for 5 hours
>never pick it up again
I seriously don't get the appeal. If it gets that stale after 5 hours, how can you play for hundreds? Worst part is a lot of my favorite youtubers love the game and just stream it now instead of actually putting some effort into content.

>>386242120
I have no idea, but I do agree that Overwatch is currently bleeding because it feels that Blizzard barely cares about the game these days outside of limited time lootbox events.

For every 1 character released in OW, 5-6 have been released on HOTS

>>386251332
>friends buy the game
>get me to playing during some free weekend
>had a blast
>few months later friend gifts me game
>play for a few days but by now everyone is pretty bored of the game
>with no friends to play with it's barely fun anymore
>stop playing a few weeks later

Still feel bad that he wasted 40 eurobucks getting me the game. Not even Overwatch porn holds my interest these days.

nothing went wrong. its the same as all the other modern shallow trash that sells to casuals who play it for a month.

>>386246971
At least the HOTS team is doing fine.

>>386248127
goldens hate dogs that think black labs are their equals

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>>386247195
He's also best husbando.

It's a game that somehow gets less fun the better you get at it. Everyone I've talked to about it had more fun playing at the beginning than they do now, same with me.

>>386248369
I agree and also disagree. It's stupid to think for a moment that Overwatch is dying. Despite Blizzard dropping the ball and seemingly not giving a shit for what should be their second most cared for IP below Warcraft, it's still a popular game and enough people still play it.

I WILL say however that the game is slowly bleeding players because of the legitimate weapons some of us have said, terrible balancing, not enough decent heroes at a better rate, and overall just being a boring game after a month and a half of play.

>>386250339

The rest are like 66% the size of the launch maps, small cramped and uninspired.

oasis is the biggest post release map because they reskinned lijang tower and then just inverted some shit

>>386240169
I like to make things up too.

>>386240169
>Bought game
>Fucking pharah every fucking game
>Leave

>>386240169
I literally can pinpoint everything wrong with overwatch.

>all characters can headshot
>90% of characters have an amazing range and accuracy
This means you cannot access your surroundings and feel safe, unlikely in tf2, where there's only a single easily identifiable class that can shoot from afar.
>lol of legends ultimates and skills
Probably one of the worst game designs that ever existed. A solid third of the gameplay is trying to survive bullshit instakills. Rein/Mcree/Roadhog/Hanzo/Mei/, those characters don't even need an ultimate to make guaranteed kill maneuvers
>lol of legends infinite characters
THE worst game design ever invented. Since you have a billion characters, you have to either limit all characters or give all characters bullshit skills that make nowhere safe. Either way, it's an atrocity. Now when you add new characters you jeopardize the competitive gameplay. Any minor change to a single character alters the competitive mode. Same is not true for the true tf2 competitive tournaments, since both teams have the same classes and capabilities.
>obviously unbalanced
Reaper, a dps, needs to get to melee range to kill someone in 2 shots. Zen, a support, can do it from a sniper distance. That's just dumb.

>40 bucks for a pvp only game with relatively simple map designs
No need to add anything.

>>386255795
wrong on the very first meme arrow. stopped reading there.

>>386244937
>mockingly paraphrasing the people you're replying to in green text
>then going on to agree with them in your actual post
?

>>386242120
Average 3 minute queue times is something. Especially when you're always dropped with the same players.

>>386250264
You do realize that literally wether ANYTHING is bad or not is subjective right? There is nothing wrong with trying to convince your friends to have a similar opinion as you.

>>386247195
>objectively the best
>retarded weeb doesn't know how to use objectively
Like clockwork

>>386256104
>Mercy pistol - 200 damage per second with headshots shooting from 100 meters
>Zen orbs - 200 damage per second shooting from 100 meters
>Lucio 160 damage per second shooting from 100 meters
Tell me again how I was wrong. How often can you decimate an enemy from 100 meters away from you as the tf2 medic? How often does an enemy kills you from that distance in tf2 without being a sniper?

There's a reason why tf2 feels comfy and overwatch does not.

>>386258624
Pharah, Junkrat, Rein, Winston, Zarya, Ana and Symmetra can't headshot.

>>386244946
not him but burdon of proof is on OP not someone replying.

>>386245336
tf2 is casual with a high skill ceiling while overwatch is casual with a low skill ceiling

if you are actualy good at videogames you can enjoy overwatch very long because of how simple it is and the fact that you can still lose to bad players because of "press Q to awesome and free kills"

the only reason why people still play this game is because of the continued support for new content

>>386251840
The Overwatch balancing is a mess because of Geoff Goodman. The guy is infamous back when he was balancing Heroes of the Storm, his most notorious action being outright refusing to buff Arthas when EVERYBODY knew he was complete trash and would get rekt 1v1 by supports.

Geoff moves to Overwatch, and suddenly the balance in HoTS becomes drastically better, and Arthas got fixed.

>>386240169
>has 10% of players it had a year ago
Where is the proof?

>>386240169
In quickplay, queue time is 4 minutes on average, plus another one minute and 40 seconds of prep time, combined with candy crush matchmaking, I almost wait more than I play.

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>>386258875
>autismo too high to understand hyperboles
>"Achkually, only 70% of heroes can headshot, not all of them, you are so wrong I won't even read the rest of what you wrote".

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>>386248359

>>386261283
I wasn't even the same person. I simply explained it to you since you seemed to have trouble with it.

>>386260848
That's a shame, I usually get into QP games in less than 30 seconds on PS4.

>>386243218
overwatch is a good idea with horrible execution from the devs
and it is dying, getting to the point where nobody even talks about it anymore (on /v/ and just in general)

t. top 500 player who uninstalled yesterday

>>386241382
>>386241226
You guys have seen nothing
>Half of the specs in legion cant get a spot in raid because they absolutely fucking dogshit and blizzard only buffs/nerfs shit at the start of every expac
Reason why I dropped wow. I want to play fucking outlaw you niggers, how hard is it to have all specs do approximetely the same dps

>>386241035
I think you need to go outside a bit anon.

>>386242120
nope, autists who talk about how "shit" the game is in these threads are people who have never actually played it, kinda that that one scene from spongebob,
infact, a new character was just released and the next event is in like 3 days, the game is no where near dead and wont die for a few years

>>386240350
but it's 40 bucks, not 60; always was
why do people keep saying this?