Isometric RPGs

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>>386226235
>plus horrible balance
Looks like someone is shit at making builds.
Let me guess, depot A?

Underrail is just a shitty game.
Try Fallout and Fallout 2, they're infinitely better.

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>>386226393
>shit build

You're not wrong, but i dropped it at the first faceless encounter, and i was playing on easy.

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Play Divinity Original Sin instead and fall in love with RPGs again

>>386226647
faggot

>>386226235
Move on, those always were low budget garbage anyway.

>>386226235
Play Arcanum

>>386226647
Psyonics unarmed is the best build if you're not a pussy

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one thing I've learned is that if /v/ says it's bad it must be good

>>386226393
>faggot reads a guide before playing a game
kill yourself, casual nigger

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>>386227159
>needing to read a guide to understand how to make a good character
your casual is showing yet again buddy

>>386227230
>n-no you!
typical

>>386227159
>you're not shit at a game, therefore you must've read a guide

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>>386226235
Sounds like you are just shit at making a proper build.

>>386227159
>ive never played an rpg before
>>386227280
damage control

>>386227496
>using psi
>not shit
p a t h e t i c

>>386227496
You can play as the Terminator?

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Recommend me some of these types of games anons.
I've played
>Fallout 1 & 2
>Shadowrun HK and Dragonfall
On my list to be played
>Planescape

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>>386227639
>not using psi
Faggot

>>386227653
Oh yes.

>>386227796
If you want to play Planescape Torment you might as well play Baldurs Gate 1 and 2, Icewind Dale 1 and 2, Neverwinter Nights, Arcanum and maybe Lionheart.

>>386226235
stick to sucking dicks OP

>>386228018
Is there a robot/cyborg character build? This game just became a lot more interesting to me.

>>386226235
>no immersion

subjective.
I feel bad for anyone who thinks something is only immersive if it's in first person

>>386228036

I do enjoy the futuristic and post-apocalyptic stuff more, but I wanna try the other kind as well. Let me see Baldurs and Planescape first.

>>386228168
>robot/cyborg
No, but you can make unarmed build with inhumane stike power, mobility and defense.

>>386228293
>subjective

Never said otherwise, it's not about the camera tho, it's about how they tell the plot and how they present other npcs, wasteland 2 did a better job with that.

>expansion soon
>jet skis
>shotguns

something to look forward to

>>386226235

Underrail has probably one of the better balancing out of all WRPGs I've played. There's at least 6 viable builds that are very different from each other. Not many WRPGs manage to do this.
Underrail is a fucking tedious game to play though. I had to use cheat engine speed hack in order to make the back-and-forth walking a little bit faster. Also that fucking last level in the game. What the fuck was the dev thinking?
And yes, the story is fucking shit. It's a mish-mash of Fallout Games, System Shock and one other classic I cant remember right now.

Anyways if you really want to get into WRPGs, start off with the old classic. Fallout 1&2 and Baldur's Gate 1&2 are excellent games, immersive as fuck and have great stories (well BG1 is a meh but it's a prologue for BG2 anyway).

>>386227061
>Arcanum
He would never play RPG's again anon.

>>386229129
such a shame really, the setting is fantastic and there's a hint of something interesting in the gameplay

but it turned out so very very bad

>>386229564
Arcanum just needs a bit of a face lift and it might be the best RPG period.

>>386229657
honestly if someone competent did it, I wouldn't mind a modern remake

just someone who knows not to fuck with the great parts (setting, aesthetics, various characterizations and world interactions) and instead focuses on improving what needs to be improved (basically everything gameplay related, couple of HD textures)

>>386230020
Arcanum Restoration Project/Enhanced Edition when?

>>386226235
Is it OK to avoid some zones(gang of metalheads south of sgs or lunatics with dogs south of GMS)?

>>386232297
Early on yes, but you will want some of their sweet loot eventually.

>>386232357
Yes, but with my two subpar pistols it's impossible yet. I kinda questioning my weapon of choice, it seems smgs are better.

>>386232480
Yeah pistols suck unless it's energy ones.

>>386230136
>>386230020
>they don't know how to use mods

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>>386226235
>not liking Underrail

Rathound detected.

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Can we stop pretending that Underrail was a good game?

Surely the dev's shill aren't still browsing /v/, right?

>>386232627
>wearing armour
that's totally not hardcore, nor is it dominating

>>386232728
>Relying on doge rng?

no thanks

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>>386232627
...

>>386232559
there's no "combat that doesn't want to make you commit suicide by spork" mod

>>386226235
Underrail is tedious as shit, Fallout was better.

>>386232869
>spork
oh no...

>>386232839
How does dodge work? If I get 100 I won't be like Neo, right?

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>>386227230
>>386227451
>>386227543
To be fair, there is a tendency in oldschool RPGs and their kin to have a number of trap options that turn out to fukken sux only once you've gotten through a fair part of the game, or seemingly decent options underperforming later in the game with nothing to do but spend a lot of time respeccing/grinding or simply restarting. Stuff like tagging Big Guns in Fallout, and how much Small Guns start to suck around Necropolis, or your formerly god-tier ranger and/or melee niggas in Baldur's Gate turning into garbage in 2 thanks to mage supremacy.
It seems like those design choices were either intentionally made so that you'd wind up with niche options but instead one thing steamrolls everything, or there simply wasn't enough development time to implement all the shit that would have balanced things out.

>>386232994
don't know, don't bother with that kind of shit. Armor and dmg reduction always.

>>386232297
>>386232480
Sure, especially early on or if you're not fully geared yet. It's best to take the first few missions relatively straightforwardly.
Eventually they'll just become yet more fragile humans holding expensive loot, so you'll kill them before too long.
>Pistols
Have some unique feats and you can get a fair bit of AP reduction on them with DEX, but until you do they'll be weaker than SMGS (and Assault Rifles if you can wield them), especially if you're just taking single shots with each. Mainly because burst is fucking great.

>>386232627
>tfw I took this picture on my first playthrough because I was planning a heavy armour/assault rifle build but found a fantastic tac vest/longcoat early on and eventually got so sick of the contrast I restarted completely
How do you do it, anon? It started to bug me ever since I ran into the Protectorate guards and noticed they used the same picture.

>>386232480
What type of build are you going for, anon? Do you want to specialise in pistols or are you just using them until you find something better?

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>>386233274
I planned to specialize in them. 3 str, 11 dex - there's no way back to heavy weapons. 3 will, no psy either.
I have gunslinger, aimed shot, point shot, sprint, expertise. Level 7 currently before junkyard.
I have a decent mechanic skill, but components for a new pistol have pretty poor quality, and high caliber pistol is not really useful with two shots per round. Maybe when I get rapid firing feat.

>>386233509
>Level 7 currently before junkyard.
You'll be fine; I've noticed decent quality parts start appearing after completing Depot A. I'd say just stick with a pistol and SMG to get through Junkyard as quickly as possible, since even with no applicable feats burst-firing can be very useful if you need to output a lot of damage quickly. You should be fine to complete all of the optional quests in Junkyard itself (little serious combat, usually creatures or solo enemies), go carefully through Depot A and then gear up on the other side. You'll be a lot more damaging once you pick up/craft a good pistol or two.
Good luck, anon!

>>386234391
Thanks. Solo enemies will be easy with my bear traps.