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Pack up all your shit and get your ass to Kalimdor.

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Pack up all your shit and get your ass to Kalimdor.
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Glad you could bake it uther.
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>medivh is supposed to be the all mighty wizard protector of the world
>fucking arthas doesnt know him
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Miss me yet?
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>>386226183
Medivh was dead when he met Arthas in WC3.
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>>386226328

I'm counting on Bolvar being the one to foil sylvanas' efforts to prevent herself shuffling off her mortal recoil
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>>386226328
But.. he was going to live forever?
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>>386226328
yes.
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>>386223446
What a shitty warning he gave therenas.

> fly in like you own the place instead of being humble and requesting an audience
> LISTEN TO ME FOOLS WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
> despite all this, therenas still lets him talk for a bit
> he asks that somehow, you move your whole fucking kingdom to kalimdor, a literal wasteland where nobody except the night elves and the orcs can thrive

not even surprised therenas didn't listen desu, even if he had, it would have been near impossible to abandon his homeland.

> nigger orc listens because muh nightmares
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>>386227669
Maybe Medivh thought they'd recognize him or something? He was the Guardian of Tirisfal at one point. Also, Thrall really had nothing to lose by following Medivh, him and his clan were already being cornered and wiped out by the humans.
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>>386227861
>Maybe Medivh thought they'd recognize him or something
They would have executed him on the spot.
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>>386227861
>Also, Thrall really had nothing to lose by following Medivh, him and his clan were already being cornered and wiped out by the humans.

That's true I'll give you that
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>Tfw Cairne died for nothing
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>>386227861
>Maybe Medivh thought they'd recognize him or something?

Seeing as how he was the one who let the orcs into Azeroth to begin with and is one of the largest race traitors of humankind to date, he couldn't exactly go, "Hey fuckwits, I'm Medivh!" He was keeping his hood low intentionally.

Sure he was possessed by Sargeras but its not like that was common knowledge or most people will believe it if they even do hear it.
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>>386227861
>him and his clan were already being cornered and wiped out by the humans.
Should've stayed in their camps then
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>>386227968
Take heart, young one. The Earth Mother is near.
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>>386227968
>Magatha is now a champion of the Earthen Ring
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>>386227968
>furfags
Good riddance. I take great joy in laughing with hearty condescension at the weirdos crying over BAINE being completely irrelevant.
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>>386223446
Thanks for the advice Medivh, I'm off to fuck me some horny Night Elf warrior women.
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>>386228337
>go to fuck hot elf women
>enter their forests
>they kill your for trespassing into their territory
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>>386226183
Fucking ANTONIDAS of all people doesn't recognize him.
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Was so fucking good. I remember getting max army and fighting my bro in LAN. you can laugh but I was a kid and it was fun
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>>386228291

baine?
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>>386228412
They'd really only kill you for defacing their forests, and even then, warcraft elf women can only contain their lust for human cock for so long.
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>>386228291
>Tauren
>Furfags
Hello underage
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>Everyone! Go to Kalimdor, across the sea!
>Kalimwhat? Whatador? What? Where?
>You know, the other major continent on Azeroth
>???????
>Just, just fucking sail west you can't miss it
>You mean Kul'Tiras? Why would we go there?
>Not fucking Kul'Tiras you shits! Just do what I say! I can turn into a bird! Listen to me!
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>You orcish pigs are out of your pens. We've already captured and castrated one of your beanskinned leaders. If you surrender now, we'll spare your orcish beanstalks

Anyone else think they took some lines in this game a little far?
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>>386228534
>go to fuck hot elf women
>enter their forests
>get captured for trespassing
>used as a sex slave until you die
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>>386228604
And there we go, the furfag quickly jumps to defend his favorite furry abortion race.
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>>386226767
im counting on bolvar to be turned into a pinata
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>>386228694
Trying too hard to fit in.
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>>386228650
Sounds good to me.
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>>386228534
>all the night elf males are hibernating or wandering around the emerald dream
>night elf females left with nothing to do but patrol forests full of well hung stags, bears, and cats
You just KNOW.
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>>386228756
What are you gay?
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>>386228752
There is no need to be upset, just accept the fact that you're a furfag and move on.
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>>386228650
>men have been sleeping for years
>only women still awake and active
Death. By snu snu.
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How does WC3 have such a memorable story, interesting characters, and character building

How did that turn into Illidan becoming a Champion of the Light OC donut steel resurrection character
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>>386228771
don't forget about the forest trolls and dark trolls
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>>386228756
Me neither. They should use me for breeding. Since all their males are asleep I can help them with more children
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>>386223995
watch your tone with me boy, you may be a waiter, but i am still your superior as a chef
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>>386228816
It was a different time, literally. Jews knew that in order to make money you must also produce something of quality, and the people working at blizzard at the time were also highly skilled and legitimately enjoyed what they were doing. Blizzard was still a pretty young company and when you're a small company you have to produce a lot of quality for the recognition, then you can just do whatever you want.
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>>386228843
the only elves that can breed with humans are high/blood elves
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>>386228816
Rule-of-cool storytelling only works when your characters can actually be cool. WoW being bound by MMO rules and putting the players in the spotlight means we can't ever have the WC3 characters outshine them in cool factor again, and the plot can never really develop or progress because all players in MMOs ever do is return things to the status quo that existed before the current big bad fucked things up.
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>>386229024
Actual breeding ability doesn't matter to warcraft elves, for whatever reason they all just go nuts over human penis.
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>>386229024
>should've gone to Quel'Thalas instead
shit

source?
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>>386229110
the games/books?

the only half-elves that exist in the universe are part high elf and blood elves are jsut high elves that replaced their addiction to magic with an addiction to fel
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>no warden class
>no blademaster class
>no brewmaster class
>no tinker class
>no alchemist class

>we get boring shit like 'warrior' and 'rogue'
fucking christ why blizzard
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>>386229206
The monk literally has a BREWMASTER spec where you run about throwing kegs of ale at people.

And classic RPG classes such as Warriors and Rogues are in no way "boring shit".
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>>386229197
Just never read anywhere that only high elves could breed with humans. Then again, I have never really read the books, just reading up on lore online. Knew about high elves and their magic addiction making them use fel
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>>386229206
>warden
By WoW rules, Maiev would be a mix between warrior and rogue.
>blademaster
Arms Warrior.
>brewmaster
Is in the game.
>tinker
Engineering.
>Alchemist
Alchemy.

Warrior and rogue aren't boring classes. They're blank slates you can fluff in any way you want. Unlike Paladins who basically have to be "another member of X, Y or Z knightly order", your warrior can be pretty much anything.
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>>386229286
Classic RPG classes are the definition of boring shit.

And there still isn't a brewmaster class, asshole, just a shitty spec for a shitty class from a shitty expansion made to pander to chinks and soccer moms.
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>>386229414
>Classic RPG classes are the definition of boring shit.
Oh, he's retarded.
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>>386229482
>he thinks bread and water are interesting
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>>386229409

not him, but I'm desperately hoping for a goblin/gnomish tinker class one day.


>Mech suit tanking
>ranged dps
>pet healer class

Would be pretty neat.
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>>386229206
>no spellbreaker
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>>386229414
>shitty spec for a shitty class from a shitty expansion made to pander to chinks and soccer moms
You never played this game, have you?
Actually, how insane do you have to be to demand a Brewmaster whose identity is strongly tied to the Pandaren race since WarCraft 3, but then shit on an expansion meant to pander to "chinks", presumably for the inclusion of said Pandaren?
Are you retarded or do you just not play video games?
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>>386229536
That's my unitfu

Spellbreakers are cool as fuck
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>>386228806
I hate furrshitters, but some of the greatest players in the world played Tuaren, and I will not let you sully the race.
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>there will never be a warcraft 4

or

>warcraft 4 will be developed by activision-blizzard

choose wisely
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>>386228291
>Race Leader deserves to be forgotten and ignored because Fucking Furries, despite being pretty based in books.

Let me guess, your one of those Jainafags who think she's 100% justified in her dumbassed actions?
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>>386229689
I'd rather Warcraft 4 never exist than it exist and be as butchered and ruined as Starcraft 2. You just know that Blizzard would mess up the story something fierce and then also manage to ruin custom games somehow.
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>>386229689
Sounds like monkey paw shenanigans to me. I'll to just turn around 180 and walk away, ty.
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>>386229689
I'd rather nothing
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>>386229597
I have over two thousand hours in WoW.

MoP was a chinksplosion. They're pandering to the Chinese because the Chinese are most of their revenue. They charge those assholes HOURLY instead of monthly.

MoP was a fucking side-episode. It did less than WoD did to advance the story. Even Cataclysm was more true to the source material. Sorry your shitty expansion was utter trash in terms of lore and new race/class.
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>>386229689
I'll just replay W3
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>>386229689
SC2 had, gameplay-wise, a good campaign, and overall, I think Blizzard is still pretty good at making aesthetic games with a lot of luster (if not polish). WC4 would probably still be worth playing for a bit, even if it would ultimately disappoint on some fronts.
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>>386229743
The only thing MoP babies have is that the content was alright. But it's not saying much.
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>>386229781
>SC2
>good campaign
>>>reddit
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>>386229689
I'LL FUCKING TAKE IT

I WILL DO ANYTHING FOR ANOTHER MAP EDITOR FOR A WARCRAFT GAME EVEN IF IT MEANS WATCHING IT GET BUTCHERED VIOLENTLY BY DEVELOPERS WHO DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT RTS AS A GENRE OR WARCRAFT 1-3

STARCRAFT II'S MAP EDITOR WAS SO FUCKING BAD IT MADE ME WANNA BLOW MY BRAINS OUT AND YET PEOPLE STILL MANAGED TO MAKE SOME DECENT GAMES WITH IT
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>>386228629
>I defeated you demonic nig nogs in ages past, and I will do so again!
I thought Cenarius was supposed to be a good guy?!
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>>386229913
The campaign's gameplay WAS good, sorry you're a shitter that plays on normal and can't enjoy a challenge.
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>>386229978
>sc2
>a challenge
I liked it but lets be real
WoL had a good campaign but Raynor forgiving Kerrigan was a fucking joke. The other two expacs just butchered shit even further.
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>>386230039
What's the matter, not a fan of the TIDINGS OF DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM JAMES RAYNOOOOOOOOOOOOOR?
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>>386226328
This scene right here is pure kino. It was an ending that culminated from every campaign, every adventure, every experience. You were expecting something great and amazing, and instead, there's nothing but sadness. A sorrow fills your heart, realizing that the path you took led to this point. When I watched it again after all these years, I remembered just how awful the ending of Wrath of the Lich King was, how it completely tarnished the feel and tone of what made Warcraft's Arthurian legend stand out among other generic fantasy cycles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H20pggCftuc
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>>386229689
you can't re-ignite the fire from the past. You can never do it. Things have changed, you have changed
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>>386229930
>you will never play mafia over battlenet again
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>>386229930
>implying they wouldn't release the map editor a year after the initial game release and charge you money for it
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>>386228816
In a single player game, characters can be awesome and you just think "guys fucking cool". At the end of the day, the character being awesome is just another extension of the player, who controls him, being awesome.
The fact that they were all largely relatable and well acted didn't hurt, either.

In an MMO, when you focus too heavily on one character, you're just detracting from the player. This wasn't so bad in vanilla and TBC, where the player was essentially just another guy not really that special, so having great characters in the background was decent fluff.
When they started making the player an actual somebody, their insistence of wanking off certain characters feels like they're yanking the carpet out from under you.
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>>386230185
>Try to play Mafia on dedicated sites for it after enjoying it on battle net
>It's all circlejerking, metagame, and skype shittery

Fuck this gay earth
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>>386229930
Doesn't DotA 2 have a Map Maker?

>game makes mini-modding platform that leads to mod that leads to game that leads to mini-modding platform
Pottery
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>>386230185
>you'll never play SotDRP_Mountain
>you'll never play I is an Retard
>you'll never play Run Kitty Run
>you'll never play Shroom World
>you'll never play Civilization Wars
>you'll never play LOAP
>you'll never play Werewolf Transylvania
>you'll never play Parasite
>you'll never play Fantasy Life
>you'll never play Gem TD
>you'll never play Element TD
>you'll never hear those chains rattle as you log in again
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A SOUND PLAN
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>>386230336
GLAD YOU COULD BAKE IT, UTHER
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>>386229036
Except the game was so much better when the player characters were a bunch of random adventurers who carved their way to glory and earned their place at the grown-up table.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlVSJ0AvZe0
>see that dwarf hiking through Dun Morogh to get to Ironforge with his pet bear? YOU CAN DO THAT!
>see that night elf who found rare loot in the woods, hears conflict in the distance, and shapeshifts to go after it? YOU CAN DO THAT!
>see that undead summoning an Infernal? YOU CAN DO THAT!
>see that tauren looking at the beauty of Mulgore? YOU CAN DO THAT!
>see that orc challenging you to a duel outside of Orgrimmar? YOU CAN DO THAT!
>see that human throwing fireballs on a rooftop? YOU CAN DO THAT!
>see these races fighting each other? YOU CAN DO THAT!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBHL_-biMrQ
>HOLY FUCK THE DARK PORTAL OPENED WE'VE NEVER ACTUALLY HAD CONTENT DEALING WITH WHERE THE ORCS CAME FROM BEFORE THIS IS SO FUCKING HYPE
>HOLY FUCK IT'S ILLIDAN HE'S BACK
>"You are not prepared?" YOU'RE FUCKING RIGHT YOU'RE NOT OUTLAND GREENS MAKE YOUR BLUES LOOK LIKE SHIT!
>see that draenei putting a blessing on himsef? YOU CAN DO THAT!
>see that blood elf mana tapping a wyrm? THAT'S LITERALLY PART OF YOUR STARTING QUESTS!
>see that orc holding that one epic weapon? YOU EARNED THAT, REMEMBER?
>see that troll running around in Ghostlands? YOU CAN DO THAT!
>did you just see Nagrand? YOU CAN EXPLORE THAT!
>see that undead in full gear? YOU EARNED THAT TOO!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCr7y4SLhck
>wow, the detail is really good
>oh, okay, still looking at Arthas
>... still Arthas...
>where are the players?
>where are the heroes that we've had for two expansions?
>sure that dragon looks cool, but... how are we involved in this?
>what about the new death knight class?
>... we ARE going to kill the Ligh King, right?
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>>386230309
>tfw RPGs with loading codes came out for the first time
That shit blew my dick off as a young lad before I knew anything about programming
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>>386230382
WotLK pandered a lot more to the people who played WC3.

Evidence of your WC3 exploits in Northrend, DK class, etc.

I fucking loved it.
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>>386230382
>... we ARE going to kill the Ligh King, right?
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>>386229978
>can't enjoy a challenge.
I'll give you WoL but almost all of HotS and LotV were barely challenging.

HotS in particular was a fucking cakewalk. Giving you Kerrigan on almost every mission was a huge mistake.
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>Fueled up, ready to fry
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>>386228650
What is this, Kichikuou Rance?
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OKAY /v/!
If you were in charge of Warcraft and there was never a WoW mmo, what would be the story of WC4?
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>>386228245
You should of been able to choose to kill her.
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>>386230295
Dotas map editor is complete ass and doesn't support the same mechanics as warcraft iii, specifically base building and shit that isn't a hero
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>>386230456
>WotLK pandered a lot more to the people who played WC3.
If by "pander" you mean "shit on so hard after six and a half years of waiting and creating what is known as the day when the MMO genre started to die", then yes, you're absolutely correct.
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>>386229536
>>386229623
>We will never get a spell breaker class with twinblade and shield in WoW.
Suffering boys.
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>>386230620
By pander I mean 'make any reference at all to the events of WC3'
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>>386229913
WoL's missions were varied, fun, and engaging. I played the original Brood War campaign to death because of how much I loved the story, and while I hated many of SC2's changes, I still enjoyed myself.

Heart of the Swarm felt a little bit more oriented around a single hero, but it was still decent.

IMO, Blizzard doesn't make *bad* games. For what it's worth, SC2 is still a game of skill, as "casualized" as it might be compared to Brood War (but "casualized" is a stupid word and, if we take it to an absurd point, we should all still be playing something like Warcraft 1 online.) SC2 on Hard/Brutal is a treat, and not many RTS campaigns have such a variety of missions, choices or difficulty; you don't need to employ high APM gameplay to beat the final missions of Brood War, no matter how tough they are at surface value.
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>>386230132

>icecrown raid
>blizzard could have made the final ascent to the throne the same spiral path arthas took, playing similar music and hearing the same voices of the people he failed and betrayed
>instead its just a teleporter

What the fuck were they thinking.
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>>386230550
Literally a non-question because Metzen would still be creating his OP OC donut steel half- and quarter-breed characters that have to somehow be nigh-omnipotent. WoW suffered from not having a core plot established that other writers could build off of, which resulted in a retconned mess of a product that is shameful to actually be invested in at this point.
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>>386230765
I said you were in charge
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>>386230550
retcon all of WoW
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>>386227968
F
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>>386230706
Because Activision-Blizzard doesn't give a fuck about games, only money. You could see the veritable quality drop the second it was announced that Activision bought out Blizzard. It's why the second half of Burning Crusade saw so many casual mechanics shoehorned into the game. WHY DOES THIS NEED TO BE EXPLAINED EVERY FUCKING THREAD.
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>>386230820
I said there is no WoW
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>>386230867
>WHY DOES THIS NEED TO BE EXPLAINED EVERY FUCKING THREAD

It doesn't, you dumb autist. It was clearly a rhetorical question remarking on their ineptitude.
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>>386230902
create WoW, and then retcon it anyway out of spite
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>>386230706
>ICC
>could've had Tirion and Arthas fighting each other in the background in the greatest fucking swordfight ever recorded because the Lich King's power level is so far fucking beyond what any mortal on Azeroth could fight against, save the High Lord with a fully-powered Ashbringer
>could've had it be an impossible raid fight where the shoehorned achievements give you points based on how long you last against wave after wave of undead, instead of just getting Arthas down to X% before OHKO
>could've had Tirion deliver a similar speech to Arthas that the NPCs in New Avalon delivered to the new death knight recruits to complete a story circle
>could've had the Lich King fully refuse to recognize that it's two-halves of a being, and the remainder of the fight is just surviving the Ligh King's onslaught when he turns his attention to the players while the souls trapped in Frosmourne gradually deplete the Lich King's health to 0
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>>386230986
>could've had shitty animoomoo cliches
Eh, nah.
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>some old fuck in a cape shows up and tells me to exodus every human in Lordaeron to some mythical continent that may not even be real.
I don't know why he expected anyone to take him seriously.
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>>386230550
I've never played wow so I don't know what actually happens there

illidan ded, his cronies hide in outland to get comfy, and prepare for arthas
random ass faction fights in mainland lordaeron
sylvanas kills kelthuzad
jaina returns to lordaeron to try and fix their shit
uneasy alliance/cold war shit with orcs and nelves because of some accident/misunderstanding
meanwhile all of the quest has some foreshadowing about Arthas returning

expansion pack of Arthas returning to fuck shit up espcially sylvanas for killing his bff
I don't know what happens next
maybe jaina says she still loves him and arthas becomes redeemed, goes super saiyan and is cured of undead but still controls undead`
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>>386231297

He was clearly a magic man, though. They should have given him the benefit of the doubt.
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>>386231297
>"some old fuck"
>flies in as a raven and transforms into a human
lol I know right, probably just some peasant, why pay him any heed??
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>>386231290
Considering I would've been a stupid teenager at the time of release, it would've been great. Sure, in retrospect it would be absolutely cringey, but it would also place itself as one of my favorite memories along with all the other anime bullshit I engorged my stupid little brain on when I was younger.
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>>386230336
FOR MY FATHER, THE KING!
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>>386231408
>he can't transform into a raven at will
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>>386231297
it's his fault for being so vague
hell when he got to the palace they were talking about the plague
he could have said "hey that plague makes zombies i'm telling you bro, i'm fucking medivh"
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>>386231309
Honestly most of that is already exactly what happened.

Lordaeron is super dead and Jaina never went back though. And Sylvanas didn't kill Kel'thuzad.

>maybe jaina says she still loves him and arthas becomes redeemed, goes super saiyan and is cured of undead but still controls undead`

That's almost close to right but still completely wrong. Jaina is like "oh no I still love him" but then later after meeting the Lich King in person she partially gets over it.

Arthas dies and Bolvar goes super saiyan undead to control the Scourge.
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>>386230706
>could have had the heroes from the old Warcraft era coming in to help out, regardless of faction
Phase one - on your own, fighting your way up
Phase two - adds get more intense, Muradin and Saurfang join the fight
Phase three - Icecrown's magic manifests further, Jaina and Sylvanas join the fight

Lich King Boss fight
Phase one - the old heroes hold off the lich king, while you keep his waves off their back
Phase two - one by one they fall back, leaving it up to Tirion
Phase three - Tirion damages Frostmourne, but gets injured. Uther the Lightbringer breaks free and holds him off while the players finish the job
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Arthas was right to cull stratholme desu
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>>386231309
>maybe jaina says she still loves him and arthas becomes redeemed, goes super saiyan and is cured of undead but still controls undead`
IM STILL FUCKING MAD
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>>386231309
The original plot for Ashbringer was to have Alexandros' son, Darion, be in the Outland. After a human campaign into Naxxrammas recovers the Cursed Ashbringer and the Argent Dawn is made aware of Renault's treachery, they would confront the Scarlet Crusade in Tirisfal, resulting in the Monastery's destruction and Abbot Fairbanks' miracle. It was meant for the humans to try and find a way to open the Dark Portal to get to Darion, so Darion could reforge the Cursed Ashbringer and bring out its purity again, which could then be used as a weapon to counter Frostmourne when Arthas made a move to conquer the Eastern Kingdoms.

Some of that got into the MMO, but that became a dropped plot point because none of the writers paid attention to their fluff when Burning Crusade hit.
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>>386231783
The Corrupted Ashbringer quests in Legion are fucking A+ though.
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>>386231717
>Uther
THANK YOU
I was so fucking confused at how King Terenas somehow knew how to perform a true resurrection spell (that isn't a true resurrection because the Forsaken are still Forsaken and death knights are still undead), but then I realized it was a greenlit script that no one bothered to think about. There was nothing poetic at all about ICC.
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>>386231764

The fact that Jaina and Sylvanas had nothing more to do with Arthas after Halls of Reflection is dumb as shit.

There was no reason for Tirion to have the spotlight over WC 3 characters who had actual history.
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>>386228291
edgy
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>>386230550
Arthas kills everything in the world then fucks off to outland and becomes the new burning legion

only ones that survive are murlocs, kobolds, gnolls, centaurs and all those other dumbass races
next game they evolve and get smarter and some of them fight and some of them become friends
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Oy, I'm confused. When Kil'jaeden is defeated at the end of Tomb of Sargeras, he isn't gone for good right? Demons can only truly be destroyed in the Twisting Nether, and he dies AFTER his ship leaves that place.

Archimonde is still alive too in the Nether, right?
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>>386231290
>Arthas kills everyone
>Tirion uses the power of friendship to bust out of the ice prison and slap Arthas' shit while going AAAAAA and revives everyone
Sounds pretty anime to me
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>>386232312
Kil'Jaeden is permanently dead, but got a deathbed confession that was accepted by Velen. Archimonde's corporeal body is dead, but his soul is still wandering the Twisting Nether, meaning he can potentially be a threat during this current expansion.
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What did she mean by this?
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>>386232452
But didn't Kil'jaeden die outside of the Twisting Nether, once his ship left it?
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>>386230309

>Civilization Wars

That shit was my jam

Fuck man, just thinking about it takes me back to simpler times. Jesus.
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>>386230309
I played Element TD 3 times today. The ENT bot hosts it constantly. Try Pokemon Defense, it's pretty fucking fun.
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>>386232523
The Twisting Nether is space itself in Warcraft lore. It's not an actual physical place that the denizens of Azeroth believed, but rather the cosmos itself, with its nothingness. Due to Kil'Jaeden dying in orbit around Argus, instead of being on the planet's surface, his soul wasn't bound to a physical realm, and for that, he died permanently.

Yes, it's the stupidest bullshit.
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>only helps Thrall just because
>manages to be the one that takes down Admiral Proudmoore
>wanders the wastelands for Vanilla
>sits around in BC in his Mok'nathal village
>has to come back in Legion as a Survival Hunter even though he's clearly a beastmaster
>tfw he'll never get to just be alone with his animal bros
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retcon
apparently the real suramar was under the sea, under the shield, and with guldan raising the broken shore also raised parts of suramar and shit
but it's all a clusterfuck of retcon stuff, like 4 zones ignoring a big ass dome of purple shit for 10k years
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>>386232658
>The Twisting Nether is space itself in Warcraft lore.

No it isn't. You don't know shit anon.
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>>386232664
>just wanted to hang out in Desolace with his bear, killing centaur and humans and elves and demons
>every fucking hour some jackass or five are screaming his name on the highway, trying to exchange letters with him
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>>386230309
>you'll never play SotDRP_Mountain

I don't think we'll ever reach that point of again. Custom games were so lively and so player dependent. RP maps died once bothosting became popularized.

It's a fucking tragedy because I would easily spend four hours on those maps. The creative potential was insane.
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>>386232664
>vanilla
>reach desolace for the first time on my dwarf rogue
>this son of a bitch is the first thing I see
>had no clue what the elite skull meant, thought he was just slightly higher level
>his bear aggros me from a mile away and one shots me
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>>386232570

Reminds me of

>its summer
>sun is shining
>im coming home from school
>its a month of summer vacation now
>future is bright, anything is possible, minimum of responsibilities

TAKE ME BACK
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>>386232784
>try to fight him with a group
>watch as he punts me across desolace
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>>386228291
Baine?
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>>386232756
Let me rephrase:
In CURRENT Warcraft lore, the Twisting Nether is outer space because the hack writers at Activision never bothered to figure out what The Warp is and are too fedora to think that Hell might actually exist, even in a fantasy setting, or even worse, they might think Argus itself is Hell and the Twisting Nether.
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>>386232928
>In CURRENT Warcraft lore, the Twisting Nether is outer space

No it isn't.

Stop saying shit that you're just pulling out of your ass.
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>>386230309
people are still playing Element & Gem TD right in this gay year of our lord 2017. just go back on battle.net like you always did. I dont know about most of the others though
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>>386232664
With all their warchief candidates so far Thrall should just make Rexxar the warchief so he can kick out all the faction leaders and replace them with his animal friends
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if you like lore so much anon, why don't you come and help on wowpedia?
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>>386230309
Parasite, Metastasis, and I think later versions of The Thing were all fucking fantastic, I tried the SC2 Parasite map and it's fucking nothing compared to what 3 had.
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>>386230230

Should've just toned it down the player's rep from Wrath onwards, you'll eventually write yourself into a corner and either stagnate or just be more ridiculous.

I will not be surprised if the player gets to establish their own kingdom at this point.
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I AM... the warchief
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>>386233309
A lot of maps that carried over from WC3 to SC2 kinda dropped the ball. The RP maps are somehow way clunkier than the WC3 maps.

I think the only one that worked pretty well was the Eras Zombie Invasion map.

I'm still fucking annoyed though that there has yet to be a Resident Evil: Raccoon City remake. That map in SC:BW was the tits
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>>386228484
>>386232917
you're a big cow
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>>386233102
>the Horde will never just consist of various animals with Rexxar as their leader

Tauren can stay I guess.
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>>386233436
For the Horde.
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>>386230132
I think TFT ending is one of the greatest endings ever
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>>386233030
Not that anon about current lore, but I got my lore from the Warcraft games, and at the time Medivh and Aegwynn made it sound like space and the Nether were one and the same. If that's been retconned, then okay.
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>>386230309
>you'll never hear those chains rattle as you log in again
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>>386230132
That whole walk up definitely gives me chills. Especially with all the voice clips in the background echoing in Arthas' head, as he tries to push them all out.

I actually thought for a second when he hit the sword that he was attacking the Lich King, only to realize he was simply freeing him and fusing. That zoom out gives you the perfect feeling too.

Hell, the whole final mission was hard as fuck too, so it made the ending stick out that much more.
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>>386233104
Gaming's STINKIEST pussy.
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>>386228771
>well hung stags

anon...
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>>386232173
That's mass effect ripoff, you fuckin nigger.
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>>386234065
what?
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>>386233852
i remember seeing my friends father beat that mission on hard. it was insane. i had to use cheats in normal to beat it.
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>>386234113
Wow, thanks for pointing that out, almost made Warcraft became a complete rip-off of other media! I'm glad that you were here to make sure Warhammer, Warhammer 40K, and Diablo didn't become blatant property theft!
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>>386233852
I remember this mission lmao. One day I'll beat it on hard. I had to use invisible ghosts to block illidans path using that bug to win this.
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>>386229689
They would completely butcher it so they can milk money off of nostalgic fans. Plus WoW fucked Warcraft lore beyond saving. I'd rather keep WC3 as the last Blizzard RTS desu.
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>>386233765

It's been retconned in the Chronicle book and fallout from WoD. The Twisting Nether is a separate entity from outer space it bleeds into it such as what is seen in Outland. It also bleeds into planets such as Argus that's why demons can be permanently killed there.

Archimonde is possibly still kicking somewhere but Kiljaeden is as good as dead.
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This entire city must be purged.
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>>386234578

Blizzard wrote themselves into a corner with WoW. They should just do a HOMM IV and reset everything.
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>>386234663
He literally did nothing wrong, the city was fucked either way.
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>>386234663
LITERALLY NOTHING WRONG FUCK ALL OF YOU RETARDED MORALFAGS
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>>386234163
anon, the stags bears and cats you listed all have small dicks in reality, especially compared to their size. not everything is endowed like a horse
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>>386234670
Guys...

guys

Guys.

Guys listen.

I have the best ide

guys listen

I have the best idea ever

guys

I'll release SERVERS


guys

servers

I'll release SERVERS
guys listen here

I'll release SERVERS... of only LEGACY content.
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>>386232823

No going back, senpai. If there's one good thing to take away from this is that you had a greater time compared to kids now.
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>>386234852
>>386234875
He killed women and children before they even transformed. They were running out of their homes to greet their Prince and got their heads smashed for it.
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>>386234890

So let me get this straight, you're injecting reality when it comes to the size of a bear's dick, yet it's perfectly fine for a skeleton to start chucking fireballs.
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>>386234927
That's a lie, because kids now are having sex while I haven't even kissed a girl.
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>>386234892
Whoah, that's a novel idea, anon!

But won't they get something like cease and desist letters..?
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>tfw replaying the WC3 campain right now
>finish purging
>see thread
nice
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>>386234983
Have you lose your mind boy?
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>>386234970
because bears exist in reality and are the one thing our world and theirs share, unlike the fireball throwing skeletons?
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>>386234953
he stopped the plague from spreading, sacrifices were necessary
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>>386234983
https://clyp.it/igmnqkhl
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It's done! Those of you who have the will to save this land, follow him. The rest of you... get out of his sight.
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>>386226328
Why are his eyes super tiny compared to the size of his face?
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>>386230309
I used to love Werewolf Transylvania, friend always hosted that and Footman.
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>>386235054
Yeah but then why did jaina and uther care so much?
Why didn't they support his actions?
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>>386235024
>guys this wouldn't ACHKtually happen in reality, but skeletons hurling fireballs is fine
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>>386235169
>I AM SILLY

gj
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>>386228950
Arthas: As if I could forget. Listen, Uther, there's something about the cake you should know. Oh no. It's too late. These muffins have been overgrazed. They may look fine now, but it's a matter of time before they turn into paperweights.
Uther: What?
Arthas: This entire buffet must be purged.
Uther: How can you even consider that? There's got to be some other way
Arthas: Damn it, Uther. As your future sou-chef, I order you to purge this buffet.
Uther: You are not my sou-chef yet, boy. Nor would I obey that command if you were!
Arthas: Then I must consider this an act of work misconduct.
Uther: Misconduct? Have you lost your mind, Arthas?
Arthas: Have I? Lord Uther, by my right of succession and sovereignty of my spatula, I hereby relieve you from your command and suspend your chefs from service.
Jaina: Arthas, you can't just...
Arthas: It's done! Those of you who have the will to save this restaurant, follow me. The rest of you... get out of my sight.
Uther: You've just crossed a terrible union, Arthas.
Arthas: Jaina?
Jaina: I'm sorry, Arthas. I can't watch you cook this.
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>>386235163

Possibly in their minds they're thinking that there could've been another way. If they stayed they would've seen that it was far too gone and the whole of TFT wouldn't have happened.
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>>386235163
retarded moralfags without the strength to do whats necessary, they threw the entire thing on his shoulders which made him break
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>>386235295
what a strange dog
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>>386235295
>>386235289
So you guys are saying he wouldn't have turned evil if they had supported him?
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>>386235163
If they had stayed they would have been able to convince Arthas not to go to Northrend and instead fortify Lordaeron or some shit, but rather than hear Arthas out they jumped the gun and told him to fuck himself, leaving him with no voice of reason to combat Mal'ganis' taunts.
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>>386235376
Nobody could have stopped him from going to northrend. We both know this.
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>>386235362
If they shared his burden, possibly (if we take into consideration that Blizzards writers had an ounce of brain)
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Fucking Blizzard, just give us legacy servers already so I can ausitically roleplay in EK!
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>>386235458
>Nobody could have stopped him from going to northrend

Jaina could have. If she stood by him during Stratholme, there's no way he wouldn't have been forced to listen to her when she told him that running off to Northrend is an incredibly dumb idea.
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>>386235376
No one can convince Arthas of anything, he was insane long before he even knew about Frostmourne.
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>>386235283
Way worse than the original pasta
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>>386235709
Jaina was incredibly weak-willed during the events of Warcraft 3. Anyone who honestly believes killing their father because they want to JUSTIFIABLY kill off a race of monsters that slaughtered a quarter of the global racial population within a span of forty years shouldn't be considered a bedrock.
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I don't exactly dislike the actual content after cataclysm, but it's how quests were used.

Before you had a map that had a magical glowing blob of where everything exactly was the npcs gave actually literal directions to the area and telling you of landmarks. That was where the adventure happened. And no questing arrows.

The problem that so many games these days have is relying on an ugly fucking "mini map"
Minimaps are cancer, they single handedly ruined gaming to me.

Now instead of taking the time to explain to you we just have an intern drop arrows on the corner of the screen. At that moment the player is forced to stare at the corner and barely register any of the landscapes or area.

Wow has some cool places and I don't like how it's been reduced to a shitty ui graph.
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>>386235913
She was just a dorky mage right out of her teenage years. of course she was weak-willed.
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>>386223446
why did Medivh wants the Orcs to go to Kalimdor?
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>>386232928
>>386233030
>>386233765
>>386234598
Space in WC is The Great Dark, because guess what, space is fucking dark.
After Sargeras went AWOL, the Twisting Nether went from small Nebula looking light shows to rivers and lakes of Arcane and Fel energy throughout space. Sometimes this energy is focused around planets, in which case you get something like Argus which is saturated with it. If it weren't for Argus being special, killing demons on it likely would knock them out for awhile. Considering Kil'Jaeden wasn't close enough, he's likely flat dead.
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>>386236129
>the Twisting Nether went from small Nebula looking light shows to rivers and lakes of Arcane and Fel energy throughout space.

Still no.
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How do we get him back into the game?
I want more Medivh, dammit.
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>>386236105

He knew they would meet the night elves and get together for an epic team up. All according to plan (maybe not them killing Cenarius though).
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>>386236105
Ner'zhul was starting to corrupt Arthas to make him his champion, which meant that undead would start taking over the Eastern Kingdoms. The smaller the population on the Eastern Kingdoms, the smaller the army Ner'zhul would have when he tried to march the undead over to Kalimdor.
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>>386236193
You double nigger I'm trying to simplify it. If I were to go into the entire meta-creation of the Warcraft universe I doubt anyone would take it seriously.
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>>386236248
He came back with the Karazhan dungeon.
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>>386236248
To add on to >>386236289, he pops up to make Dadghar the Guardian, then flies off again.
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>>386236289
Was it just a "passing on the torch" moment with Khadgar or is he back for real?

>>386236342
>Khadgar's Harbinger trailer was about him realizing that Guardians are useless
>"lol u r guardian nao"

Not sure how to feel about that.
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>Illidan has mocked the Scourge for long enough. It's time to put the fear of death back in him
Where did lines like that go?
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>>386236419
It was basically just a title drop. Khadgar didn't get any crazy magic boost, Medivh just said 'You may not want to be the Guardian, but you basically already are. CA-CAW!'
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>>386236284
But it's way less complicated than that fake shit you said.

>universe is created by Light and Void crashing together
>also created the Twisting Nether, a dimension of chaos full of Fel energy that overlaps normal reality
>places in realspace that get saturated with Fel wear down the barrier between realms and Demons can be killed legitimately there

Not that fucking hard.
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>>386236475
I can live with that.
I think I'm gonna resub and catch up with everything.
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>>386236517
I was talking about the whole
>Light and Dark exploded, creating the universe and the Twisting Nether
>Planets saturated became home to demons, who are basically just aliens
>Some planets started waking up and became Titans
>The Titans became space-faring planet bodies focused on fighting demons and making planets orderly
>But the Dark was still around and made Old Gods, who wanted their own Titan
>And then Sargeras went crazy and tried to kill everything because he really hates the Dark.
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>>386229721
Starcraft 2 LOTV had the worst ending of any game I've ever played for sure
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>>386232774
>ywn enjoy a game with themes in which there is unison and creativity among the players
>you will never marvel at the guy who makes a setpiece just cuz and its better than everyone else's, a city frozen in time
Most fun I ever had was probably a game of Tavern RP in SotDRP, in which two of us roleplaying regular villagers ended up ramming some edgy wanderer into the fireplace and blocking his exit with a table. Ran for about five hours.
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>Alleria finding out about Sylvanas fate will be offscreen
Just...fuck Blizzard.
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>>386233436
For moo
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>>386237254
Do you mean LotV, or the Epilogue? Because LotV had a fairly decent ending. The Epilogue should have been shot out of an airlock.
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>>386237630
The epilogue, my bad
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>>386237630
Auir reclaimed.
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>>386230132
Indeed. Old blizzard had vastly superior plots. Nu blizzard isn't just content to write bad fanfiction, they feel compelled to undo everything good in previous stories.
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>>386237518
>Turalyon's voice acting
Fucking hell man, voice acting in Legion is pretty terrible.

>that quest with the birds and crocs on the broken shore
Thank God you can turn the sound off.
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>>386237254
It wasn't just bad, it was downright insulting to everybody that played Starcraft. I mean, come the fuck on, they didn't even give us a CINEMATIC ending, just some lame artwork.
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>>386237847

BUT THEIR CHICKS CHICKS!
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>>386235295
c-caw?
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>>386227968
A
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>>386238376
Ugh!
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>>386237787
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>>386239161
>It's so bad that they accidentally made their "villains" right
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>>386237847
It's not that bad. I think its Travis Willingham, he's usually pretty good, and I don't think it sounds bad, at least
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>>386239325
>the "bad" guys have relatable motivations
>bad plot
pick one (1)
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>>386239954
>Bad guy has relatable motivations
>Bad guy ends up being 100% right and the player is objectively wrong for stopping him
Pick one
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>>386237787
This is what annoys me the most, they're actively retconning and ruining shit. I always thought Metzen was the most egregious but the new lore writers are worse than Matt Ward..
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>>386237847
>not liking thisalee crows cute voice
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So why did Medivh think it was a good idea to bring the Orcs into Azeroth in the first place. Is he going to take responsibility for all the men they killed? The women and children they sacrificed and slaughtered? The towns and farms and villages they burned? I think Medivh was a bit of a retard. Admiral Proudmore was a retard too though.
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>>386226183
i'm sure even if Arthas knew who Medievh was, he wouldn't expect to meet him since he was supposed to be dead.
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>>386240614
>So why did Medivh think it was a good idea to bring the Orcs into Azeroth in the first place

He was possessed.
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>>386240762
Is this a retcon? In wc3 he just felt bad for them. I never played WoW so I guess pretty much the whole story has been rewritten by this point huh.
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RIIDE OR DIIE!
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>The future is ours..

>I see...

>it is certan...

>Watch out!
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>>386240103
Ward is miles ahead of them. At least he learned somewhat from mistakes
They're on ABD tier now.
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Us hear and obey.
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>>386237518
>trollbane's still stuck in outland surrounded by death knights
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>tfw finally a good thread on /v/
>tfw not making it in here until the 250th post
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>>386240938
In wc3 the orcs were already in Azeroth and Medivh jus lead them to Kalimdor because they were needed to fight the Burning Legion at Hyjal.
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EXCELEN CHOICU
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>>386236105
That's where the world tree (and the well of eternity) is located. He foresaw that the Burning Legion (specifically Archimonde) will try to absorb its energies to summon Sargeras.
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>>386241321
The backstory of him opening a portal for them to Azeroth was in wc3. He did it because he felt sorry for them unless I'm missing something.
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I'll light the way.
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>>386241275
500 limit on /v/, m8
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>>386241065
>>386241242
>>386241332
>>386241450
I still have these bastards in my head after 10 years.
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By Nerub, the rebels nearly had us, King Arthas
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Ready for personal boats? I am
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>>386241383
I'm pretty sure wc3 didn't explain the reason why Medivh brought the orcs into Azeroth. It just had a brief cutscene of Medivh opening the portal and then getting killed by humans (and he was possessed at the time according to wc2 or some wow lore books).
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Why the fuck can't we go back to the comfy TFT days bros? Where did it all go wrong?
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>>386241450
Why does that baer in the ranger's hat keep following me?
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>>386241458

n0ice.
Didn't even know, I don't usually lurk here. But Warcraft attracts my attention.
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>>386241624
>your boat is just another garrison in disguise

bravo
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>>386241624
Her face looks very non-Jaina here. They should have the Hearthstone artist draw her.
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>>386241713
>Implying I wouldnt mind that
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>>386241593
I would not leave my subjects to be slaughtered by this rabble
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I unironically still repeat warcraft 3 unit quotes when im alone or driving home from work

I might have autism.
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>>386230132
I will never NOT be mad
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>>386241648
They're working on a Remastered WC3, bro.
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>>386241768
Then we shall stand by you till the end
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Why is Warcraft 3 the best game of all time?

And WHY are you not playing it RIGHT NOW with me in battle.net and join my Island of Frogs 3 / Go Fish / RiskDevolution / Uther Party games?
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>>386241648
>>386241854
What if they remade warcraft 3 campaign but with dark souls gameplay
fuck RTS elements, just 3rd person action
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>spend all the first campaign saving humans
>Suddenly arthas turns evil and then you spend the second campaign destroying all humans
I didn't like making arthas tear down everything he liked. And he got away with it till the end.
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>>386241854

I don't give a shit about remastered WC3 unless it includes custom map compatibility.

If it includes that, then I'll buy the fucking shit out of it.
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>>386241951
If it's like the SC remaster that shouldn't be a problem.
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>>386241913
Dark souls exists already. Just add orcs, elves and dwarves
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>>386241951
It's literally going to be the same game except with balance updates, updated graphics, widescreen support, and potentially new features such as larger unit selection.
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>>386241902
>he isn't part of the secret warcraft 3 group
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>>386242024

>he doesn't give me the link to the secret warcraft 3 group
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>>386242008
>>386241984

Do you think that the old custom maps will be compatible with the remaster? Not just being able to make custom maps.

That's what I mean, we really need that.
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I dropped when cataclysm came out. Just wanna say that i was moved by arthas keeping The locket of jaina. And how she reacts when you give it to her. Jaina is ma waifu
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>>386241913
>dark souls

I dont usually say this, but fuck you
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>>386242176
It will be the same game engine. They are toying with the idea of adding Lua support for map making, but I'm 100% certain they are not going to break backwards compatibility with old maps.
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>>386241383
Medivh's mother the Guardian of Tirisfal defeated the avator of sargeras, which (unbeknownst) to her tainted her. Eventually she wanted to create her own heir instead of handing the mantle over so she got some chad named Nielas to knock her up.
This 'spirit-taint' infested the baby medivh, emerging when he was in his teens. Made him go in to a coma and when it came out of it, he pretty much turned in to a schizophrenic that gradually decended in to madness until Sargeras fully posessed him.
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>>386241624
Great, now futa pirate guilds will infest the RP servers.
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>>386240093
>player has to be objectively right for the story to be good
brainlet alert
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>>386242008
>updated graphics
You mean they're going to bastardize the art style and insert nu-blizzards tainted shit in to it, in some egotistical attempt to retcon the old game.
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>>386242435
>turning a tragic tale of a broken down old man who can't let go of the past into a tragic tale of writer incompetence accidentally warping said broken old man into being 100% accurate
>thinking him being right was always intentional, or even at all intentional
No, John, you are the brainlets
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>>386242595
I can take being called a brainlet, but never call me John.
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Weird thing is I just starting playing on battle.net again. Great game and I hope the rework this game gets brings it back to life some.
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>>386242743

I lost my copy but plan on starting to play soon, gonna order a copy from amazon.

There's only shitty games, anyway. Might aswell go back to WC3
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>>386241645
>>386242305
Wow I had no idea. So the orcs in Azeroth was ultimately Sargeras' doing. That makes sense. No sane man would have welcomed the orcs into their home.

>>386242435
Not him but I really sympathise. Agreeing with the villain to the point of pain and not playing the game is a shit feeling. The protag usually has really basic motivations in the games I've played. If the villain has any real reason for what he's doing at all, he's already got the protag beat. They should just write their protagonists better honestly.
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I heard you wanted to win the tournament.
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>>386242468
They'll probably go with something like HoTs. They have high quality models.
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>WC3 remaster is compatible with original custom maps
>battle.net ends up being 100% dota lobbies again
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There's no need to snide lord antonidas
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>>386242990
Dota killed rts
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>>386242990

Bullshit, nobody wants to play DotA anymore.

There's always people hosting good stuff, including me.
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>>386242946
World of warcraft models don't belong in WC3.
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>>386226183
medivh was dead. Why would anyone assume that some random doomsday prophet is the guardian?
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>>386229930
You don't need garbage blizzard to get a decent world editor. By using Unreal Engine 4 you can allow people to program in c++ or use blueprints. C++ being the JASS equivalent and blueprints being the trigger equivalent. But here is the issue, you have to be a huge company.
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>>386241257
>Blizzard subtley removed his dialogue which mentioned his return some time during Cataclysm

NuBlizzard fucking suck.
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>>386243364
HOTS has far better models than WoW does.
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>>386243515
Right, but that isn't the original WC3 art style.
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>Someone call for de docter?
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>>386243606
Valve stole this line for their dota 2 witchdoctor
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>>386243648

that is some faggot shit
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>>386230132
The WotLK cinematic is a great continuation to that ending though. If only it had been the trailer for WC4 instead of being part of the shitfest that is WoW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCr7y4SLhck
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>>386243595
Right.
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>>386243606
Thanks Witch Doc
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>>386243595
It's certainly not far off at all. Too lazy to make comparison pics but e.g. Kael'Thas looks basically the exact same.
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>>386243987
The proportions are way too fucking exaggerated. I mean look at this shit.
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>>386244130
It's not far off. The actual in game model, which you see 99 percent of the time is just a jumble of blocky polygons and they were also exaggerated in dimensions.
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>>386244130
WC3 is cartoony as fuck, the cinematics being the exception
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>>386244075
..Right, sure. If the Starcraft remaster is anything to go by its going to be shiny, look different and the models are going to be super high fantasy nu-blizzard shit. With 110% bloom.
>>386243987
>Sword is different
>Body is thicker, arms are thicker
>Sandals are thick wooden blocks rather than flat NuBlizzard
>Tainted by nu-blizzard obsession to make everything 300% bigger

IIts not horrendous but I've what they've done to Uther. They need Sam and the rest of sons of the storm.
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>>386231740
It's funny that even after all these years, I remember where that picture is located. That's in karazhan in the hallway right before the Maiden of Virtue. (I quit right before wrath)
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>>386235709
That comic where she helped him in Stratholme ended up with her as Lich Queen
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>>386244373
I've seen*
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>>386229930
I'm currently working on making something like Warcraft 3's battle.net. I've currently got most of the basic things down for a custom game like "Warcraft 3". I'm using UE4 so adding modding is going to be extremely easy to do. The only issue is that no one is going to give a fuck, the market has changed and I'm a nobody. And even then I would need hundreds of models, I would needs thousands of animations for those models, I would need thousands of voice clips for them too. Making something like Warcraft 3 again isn't something that can be done by anyone, it has to be done by someone extremely big like Blizzard that has the capital to make it happen and also has the capital to loose if it does fail. Let's face it, the golden age of Warcraft 3 custom games is never going to happen again, I mean Valve completely failed. Mostly because they're retards that never understood why it took off in the first place.
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>>386244373
these are japanese geta you pleb
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>>386231309
>sylvanas kills kelthuzad
Fuck off
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>>386244496
its for drama boi
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>>386234983

>get the wow itch
>decide to download WC3/TFT and replay them instead
>load up game
>get black screen for all cutscenes

o-ok then
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Has anyone beaten WC3 on Hard? I'm trying, but every mission takes an hour, and even though I seem to have decent macro [stay at No Expenses and a fuckton of turrets and like 5-6 unit producers, wait for AI to suicide on my defense then mount a counterattack immediately], it still takes me hours to complete a single mission.
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>>386244373
>nu

I already know you are mentally ill by saying that, but I'll entertain you. The Blademaster in HoTS was designed by Samwise.

http://www.shacknews.com/article/97073/blizzard-reveals-samuro-the-blademaster-the-latest-hero-to-join-heroes-of-the-storm
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>>386244335
I remember Arthas being extremely beefy even in the cinematics. Especially during the scene where he slays his father.
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>>386244923
Yeah his hands and arms were enormous
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>>386243648
literally stole everything from wc3
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>>386244923
I think it's mainly his gloves, they make his hands look huge.
Also, I might be misremembering something but I think they reused the model from the TFT Ending for the WotLK cinematic.
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>>386244902
I've done it. Some missions are like that, it takes ages to produce a 100 food army with all upgrades to take on a big AI base.

I think the hardest mission was that one in Frozen throne where you're playing Sylvanas and defending against that one dreadlord. You start with very little units and have to take out a smaller undead base nearby very fast or you won't stand a chance.
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>>386243606
I don't remember him being green
he was grey right?
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>>386244909
>Ignoring my post entirely
>Anyone who disagrees with me is mentally ill
So Sam made that model I didn't think he even worked in the art deparment anymore the style has so drastically changed, you got me there. It looks awful, sorry.
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>>386226820
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>>386245160
I think the Orc mission where you defend against Cenarius and have to log X number of wood was the hardest (on hard) in WC3.

In TFT it was the final mission versus Illidan.
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>>386233427
I just want a good vampirism
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>>386229807
PvP was fun
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>>386230309
>Implying
Anon I play those on a weekly basis.
All it takes is a few clicks to hear the rattle. Come back anon.
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>>386230550
The remaining Alliance nations Stormwind, Theramore, Khaz Modan and Stromgarde launch a war against Durotar as vengeance for Admiral Proudmoore's death and to bring the traitor colony of Theramore to heel. Meanwhile in Gilneas Genn Greymane has finally died and his less isolationist heir decides to clean Lordaeron of the undead and to take the capital back from the Forsaken. Eventually the Lich King brings his hordes of undead upon the warring nations of Azeroth and fucks everyone up. At some point Punished Khadgar comes back after being stuck in the Twisting Nether since WC2 to finish his hunt for Ner'zhul. While the Horde and the Alliance get destroyed by the Scourge he gathers the outsider factions who hasn't already wasted their forces on meaningless war (Gilneas and the Night Elves) and also convinces Kael'thas and the surviving forces of Illidan to join in the fight against the Scourge.
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>>386244130
Is this dwarf Arthas?
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>>386234171
>>386234479
I actually beaten the campaign on hard, but it felt like cheating since I would look up youtube for starts on harder missions, no abuses or anything like that though.
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>>386244130
>skipping leg day
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/V/ could have a retro night where we play older games like this. The customs in this game are worth it alone :O
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>>386246216

>/V/

lurk moar you newfaggot
pro-tip: try visiting /V/
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>>386245981
>Exaggerating an already exaggerated model to begin with
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>>386245198
Blueish, rather.
Pic related is probably a paintjob to make him look like Zul'Jin
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>>386246534
Just look at those stubby little legs.
He looks like Manly's tears' /fit/ brother
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>>386244902
>>386245160
>>386245459
>tfw I beat both damned games on hard with no cheats and see people struggling with it on /v/
Rts games all have the same challenge. Speed. You need to make your mind work faster. Push yourself mentally. Click around the map like a spastic. Attack the ai all the time. Try and find weak spots and pick off individual buildings. Micromanage literally every fucking unit so that it doesn't die. I think the hardest mission for me was the summoning of Archemonde by the lichbro (Kel Thuzad?) There are a few missions with almost invulnerable enemy bases and that was one of them. You couldn't really expand and take their gold mines which made it really tough.
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I want to fuck Sleinsama!
https://discord.gg/uUXr7YD
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>>386245262
You are a brainlet that can't handle the fact it was the original designer that came up with the HoTS models. The models retain the core stylistic aesthetic as a result.

Besides Samuro, every character has exaggerated proportions and is clearly seen in the cinematics.

Go fire up a Molyneux video or something.
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Reminder that is the top tier AoS.
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>>386246489
Really never seen a thread about playing wc3, UT, Starcraft or anything really....then again I don't sit here all day. All I ever see is xbox, fallout 4, Nintendo, PlayStation, Humblebundle threads out the ass. I don't really know why I browse here anymore really.
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>>386242123
>>386247045
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>>386247245
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>>386247062
I can handle it just fine. It looks like shit, sorry. See >>386246534
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>>386236105
Lots of elfs for the orcs, what else.
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>>386229024

>>386229197

but high elves and night elves are related. Actually they are the same species.
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>playing wc3 customs when dota 2 already perfected them
how does it feel to be a hipster stuck in the 2000's?
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>>386228841
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>>386247486

>It's not horrendous
>but it looks like shit
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>>386237630

Stukov getting to kill Duran was nice.

Still annoyed they refused to call him Duran in HotS. Both Stukov and Kerrigan knew him, there's no reason Stukov shouldn't have gone "By the way, this shape shifting god is our old assoicate Duran"

Guess I'm not the only one who complained though since LotV has Zeratul say he was Duran in the first line.
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>>386247956
Stop fishing for (you)'s you fucking bully.
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>>386230039
>WoL had a good campaign but Raynor forgiving Kerrigan was a fucking joke

As far as I'm concerned, Jim only saved Kerrigan because of Zeratul, no romance bullshit.
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>>386228771
Wouldn't the males who weren't druids still be awake?
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>>386248179
Every night elf male was a druid. Probably the only male that was awake for those 10,000 years was Illidan because the wardens kept milking him.
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>>386248383
Ever heard of Jarod Shadowsong? Or every other male night elf who isn't a druid?
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>>386248383
>Every night elf male was a druid

Seriously? There were no male craftsmen, scholars or laborers? Seems pretty weird.

What if a night elf dude didn't want to be a druid?
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>>386248721
He'd get turned into a hot night elf girl with their hippie magic. Mere thought makes my dick diamonds.
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>>386248696
>Jarod Shadowsong
Well I wouldn't say he counts because he went to go fuck off and live in the woods with no contact with the night elves for thousands of years.
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>>386249303
>Gets Waifu
>Runs off into the woods
>Fast forward thousands of years
>Waifu starts dying
>Run back to Darnassus with her
>She still dies
>And now his sister and his ex don't like him
Jarod had a hard life.
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>>386244456
Cannon alternate timeline from the company or fanfic?
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>>386249695

>night elves start to die of old age
>don't know how to deal with this
>have to ask the humans for advice on handling it

A tiny bit of neat worldbuilding that they needed more of in the setting.
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>>386243482
The guy had a massive hard-on for ravens that you could spot from a mile away. He didn't take a shit unless the toilet was raven-shaped. That kind of character trait doesn't just get forgotten.
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How come trolls aren't immortal but evolved trolls (night elves) are?
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>>386249765
Comic that the company wrote in preparation for the newest Hearthstone expansion. It's a bard telling the story so hyperbole is obviously a factor but it's about as "canon alternate timeline" as you can get without time traveling orcs.
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>>386230132
I know it's a rehash of Starcraft's storyline.
I know he looks like a cheap Sauron knockoff.
And yet, this is one of my favorite moments in all of vidya.
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>>386249976
Well of eternity and high magic is what made the various elves live long lives/be immortal. Trolls aren't a very high magic race.
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Who is best character in WC3 and why is it Kelthuzad and Anubarak
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>>386249976

Trolls don't have the world tree and the blessings of the dragon aspects.
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>>386237487
>tfw building a giant setpiece and by the time you're done there's only 3 players left in the game or you get randomly disconnected
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>>386250056
It really is unfortunate how the first two campaigns in WC3 are just the terran and zerg campaigns from SC1 again, just like TFT's undead campaign is just the zerg brood war campaign again.

That being said, the writing, scenarios, and characters make it bearable, compared to SC2 where the writing and characters trashed relatively engaging campaign levels.
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>>386228245
as a shaman main i fucking hate that they let her in the earthern ring
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>>386244402
its funny that after all these years, you waited until that hallway was brought back into current content before using it as hipster ammo
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>Ctrl+F Azeroth Wars
>0 results found
Explain yourselves
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>>386250328
We're more talking about the lore and campaign missions than the custom games this time.
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>>386249929
>wc1
>medivh is a generic old white-haired wizard with a great big bushy beard and a blue robe

>wc2
>medivh is dead and forgotten

>wc3
>jk medivh is alive and middle-aged and decorates all his shit with bird feathers now
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>>386250536
I think Warcraft 1 being remade would be cool with Warcraft 3 gameplay. They could bring it more in line with how the lore has changed.
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>>386250782
Do you have even a single fact to back that up?
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>>386247869
Name 1 good Dota 2 custom that isn't Overthrow or a bad port of a WC3 custom
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corruption
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>>386230706
well the citadel was build around the frozen throne itself, so the spiral was removed in favor of the epic citadel
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>>386250536
>yeah he had this huge raven thing going on, raven cloak, feathers everywhere and his staff had a wooden raven on the top
>Khadgar was his name I think. The Last Guardian, went through the Dark Portal in Burning Crusade. Possessed by a demon. He was in the movie.
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>>386250782
..No please don't, WC1 is its cool own thing don't give it the modern Blizzard treatment. I already wanted to cry myself to sleep with how severely they bastardized SC in SC2.
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>>386250895
Why would I need facts for my opinion about how I'd like to see a remade WC1?
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>>386251097
Khadgar has changed a lot too.
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>>386251368
nu-Khadgar is based though
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>>386251368
What's in an age anyway.
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The ost of 3 was pretty great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXajx7l4VxE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SWGRsZai28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxMLxJl9UWg
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>>386227968
>Keep hoping he comes back as a guiding spirit for his son
>Never does
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>>386230382
>>386230676
I'm seeing high quality posts in this thread that I haven't seen in a WC thread for some time. Well written, boys.
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>>386229206
warden for alliance and dark ranger for horde next expac?
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>>386231740
>Those crit numbers
One of the worst parts of constant expansions was that they refused to properly scale the number changes. This made me quit halfway into Wrath (Okay it must have been the last straw I guess).
Nowadays you watch legion videos and the fucking NUMBERS are too FUCKING HIGH
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>nobody even knows Kalimdor exists yet
>continent still called Eastern Kingdoms
East of what?
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>>386236105
Because Moses had to lead his people across the great sea to the promised lands.
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I wish everybody who worked at Blizzard would just kill themselves already.
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>>386251565
i remember him being a useless senile fuck in shattrath >>386251608 and now he's younger and a fan favorite character? what the fuck happened
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>>386251732
Yeah all the races have really good background music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6_d1fhEXTY
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>>386251761
Not possible, the Tauren all drowned in the Cataclysm. I'm pretty sure of that. Read up on the story.
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>>386251970
Maybe the Maelstorm? Everyone knew about the Maelstorm and Northrend, so maybe they were plotting themselves east of that?
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>>386252097
Shaving your beard off can do wonders for looking young
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>>386252324
Haircut, bit of wrinkle cream, practically young again.
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>so bored I am now contemplating trying out WoW with the free trial thing

Is it worth wasting my time?
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>>386244130
Lmao look at his legs
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>>386252749
But his legs are ok
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>>386236105
The legion invasion began on the Eastern Kingdom's side of the world, leaving and rebuilding would give them time to recover and assess the situation, plus all the magical mumbo jumbo that another anon said about the world tree and stuff.
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>>386231717
>>386230986
>>386230706

I would have made The Lich King an outdoor raid boss, and he just wanders around icecrown being a badass. He would be nigh-impossible to kill, even to a server-sized raid.

And if he kills you... your character dies and gets their soul sucked into Frostmourne, meaning you can't rez, EVER.

Dying to him unlocks the Death Knight class however, and you play as a DK on the Scourge side from lvl 70-80, with the only goal being to destroy Horde and Alliance players. You can even enter other players' instances to kill them. If the Lich King gets killed on that server, you get your character back and the DK is free to join horde or alliance.
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>>386251970
They knew Kalimdor existed, it was just kind of esoteric.
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>>386252678
The combat has been dumbed down to a sorry state. You won't have fun because there's no challenge: enemies deal virtually no damage to you, even in great numbers, and you can close your eyes and faceroll the keyboard to effortlessly kill them.

Until Blizz de-casualizes the gameplay, it's not worth touching at all.
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You guys have watched Abelhawk's War3 Easter eggs, right? A lot of the game's triggers show what different paths Blizzard was considering for the campaigns
https://youtu.be/0Jwb73Wx8og
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>>386252814
I think you'll have an accident soon
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>>386252678
Nah it's done. Dead. MMOs can live forever, but they can start to suck, which WoW has.
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>>386240938

He felt bad for them? because you say so?

He was possessed in before that in a coma for like 13 years you cuck.
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>>386252749
It's really more the absurd size of his head and shoulderpads that make the legs look extra stubby. If those were fixed the legs would look fine.
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>>386252814
His legs are too short. Just compare that image to the one of him from WC3 right next to it, they chopped like a foot off his legs.

>>386252678
It's not unless you've already drank the MMO koolaid. Attack animations are lagfests, story plays out assuming you already know everything going on in the background (when I played the cataclysm happened and no one even stopped to explain why the entire landmass changed/was on fire), other players are constantly running through the middle of your story "cinematics," and everything is busy work.
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>>386230132
ABSOLUTE KINO
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>>386253124
I'm telling you dumb Jian his legs are OK
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>>386245317
What the fuck?
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>>386229724
>He doesn't do the full 360
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>>386252875

I found all of these myself
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>>386229689
I played Starcraft 2.

I'm good thank you. No more for me.
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>>386223446
medivh was so underwhelming in hots
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>>386252861
>>386252984
>>386253124

Oh. Guess I'll just go back to WAR and its glitchy mess.
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>>386253393
I fucking love him in HotS. Just don't miss with your attacks or you're toast.
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>>386252814
Yeah but he made waves. His mentor didn't want him to make waves.
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>>386230132

>return the blade...
>complete the circle...
>RELEASE ME...
>FROM
>THIS
>PRISON
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>>386252875
Watching this video reminds me of a weird glitch I got the last time I played WC3. About halfway through the Human campaign Arthas reset to level 1, which I assume happened because I was overleveled. Has anyone else had this happen to them?
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>>386229206
>WoW2 or next xpac that revamps the old world
>certain classes get converted to hero classes for different races
>Nelf warriors are now wardens
>Gnome hunters become tinkers
>Orcs get blademaster
>Belves get a blood spec for mage
>Undead get Dark Rangers

GIVE IT TO US
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>>386242843
Yep, WCs story wasn't too shabby until the MMO started changing things.
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>>386230132
>>386253785
As an Illidanfag I couldn't appreciate this scene because I was still so bummed out that he "died." Sort of signaled the decline of Blizzard because they rushed TFT out the door without finishing Rexxar's story or making the Arthas vs Illidan fight a CGI scene like they wanted.
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Are there any good TBC servers yet? Corecraft never
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>>386254083
I knew Blizzard had truly died when their "continuation" of the TFT was "LOL Illidan be cray, and his brother is awesome."

By far the most complex character Blizzard had ever written, and they just pull a "crawling in my skin" with WoW and BC. They should have just let him be killed in TFT rather than what they did.
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>>386253896

Sounds like you used a cheat to skip levels
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>>386254409
He also looks like a fucking downie in Legion. Someone at Blizzard must absolutely hate Illidan.
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>>386253907
>troll witch doctors or shadow hunters
>tauren runemasters or spiritwalkers
>night elf potms
>dwarven mountain kings
the list could go on a bit more I think
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>>386254528
Maybe it thought I did but I didn't.
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>>386254594
Do you know what a downie looks like?
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>>386254409
I think they were trying to justify why you had to kill him in BC. If they kept him the way he was in TFT there would have been no reason to fight him.
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>>386253907

They need less classes, not more. Probably just the basic 3 RPG archetypes really, just with a hell of a lot more customization that lets you gradually build your character into something that resembles the WC3 hero classes.
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>>386254762
Like Illidan in Legion.
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>>386254807
Well they do say he has "special" eyes.
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>>386254679

Did it happen during a level or at the start?

Because if the previous level hero cache gets removed, it will load the one before that. If none exist, it will create a pre-made Arthas at a level particular to the mission.
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>>386254594
Only thing I dislike are the permanently glowing eyes.
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>>386253228
The dialogue is reversed.
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>>386252843
wew good thing you're not a game dev because this is a terrible idea
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>>386232484
i think she means it was ret conned
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>>386236704
he also flew off into the twisting nether so who knows where the fuck he is now
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>>386255307
Perhaps if game devs had more "terrible" ideas like that, a decent game or two might have come out in the past decade.
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>>386255907
says you, my dude
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>>386256060

Name a single good game since 2007, I double dog dare you. Prove to me that the gaming industry isn't creatively bankrupt.
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>>386256269
D44m.
Shadow of Mordor.
Terraria.
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>>386256269
Gender Bender DNA Twister Extreme
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>>386256589

Terraria is the only good one there.
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Arthas... Arthas had a hard life
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>>386252097
he became a meme lord
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>>386232452
on the mythic version of WoD archimonde he goes "fuck this shit" and teleports to the twisting nether to fuck the heroes up and you kill him there, i do believe that's canon since lady sinestra was a hardmode only boss and her death is canon.
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>>386256670

Does this game have laser cheese?
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>>386252875
I never knew about the obelisk thing. I was too focused with the civilians. Huh, I guess I gotta replay.
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>>386251761
>>386252197
Cairne actually did come back in War Crimes as a spirit, and had a really heartfelt scene with Baine.
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>>386256753
Then I fulfilled the requirements.
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>>386223446
I'M SECCEDING YOU, FATHER.
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>>386256951

And have succeeded in proving that only a single good game has come out in the last 10 years. Nice job
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>>386241902
Because it has night and day cycles and kind of has the same comfiness of Age of Empires resource gathering and base building.
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>>386256869
sadly not
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>>386256773
Arthas is/was a bitchboy
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>>386256984
>SUCC
>>
>Anduin is on his way to become a badass

finally
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>>386257520
Anduin being a badass means he gets justice and peace for his people. That literally can't happen because the game stops if the Horde stops existing.
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>WC3 THREAD
>I'm 475 posts to late

EVERYTI'M GOD DAM IT
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>>386257520
Maybe Blizzard will remember Baine when that happens
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>>386257520
Don't think so pal. He's a priest, shadow priests draw power from the Void, or also known now as the Voidlords, the actual old evil Sargeras is fighting.
Corruption plot incoming. Give it a few years.
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>>386256269
>Double dog dare
K E K
E
K
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>>386253907
Wouldn't it be better to keep the classes as-is, but instead change the specialization and core abilities for one talent tree in a class to match a specific racial acumen? Instead of just giving the Forsaken a Dark Ranger class they can convert Survival in the hunter class to Dark Ranger, and instead of giving blood elves a Spellbreaker class, they convert the warrior's Protection tree into Spellbreaker, making them a perfect magekiller.
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>>386257874
>He didn't read the Anduin comic
Anduin isn't getting corrupted any time soon.
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>>386254409
>complex
He wanted to fuck his brother's wife

Like when retards say Garrosh was some how "complex" or "well-written" when he's a violent retard just because
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>>386258209
Back that train up, Garrosh was originally a depressed fuckboi because he thought Grom damned the orcs, and then when he was told that Grom was the savior of orcs, he decided to emulate his dad like how it's recorded in song, and no one took the time to teach him how to think critically.

The ONE TIME in modern lore Blizzard wrote something correctly was during Garrosh's duel with Thrall, where he states that no one was there to show him how to be a leader, which is something Thrall, a dumb motherfucker that had Frostwolves bending over backwards to help him learn how to be both strong and wise, should have understood, and instead he just straight-up executes the son of his best friend, EVEN THOUGH HE LET GROM LIVE LONG ENOUGH TO REPENT, DESPITE HOW GROM TOOK ANYTHING THAT GARROSH WOULD EVER DO AND CRANKED IT UP TO FUCKING ELEVEN.

Yes, I'm mad.
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>>386257874
>>386258156
>Give it a few years.
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>>386229536
>be quick, time is mana
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>>386232774
>join DoBRP map
>everyone is intent on spending 30 minutes building their super unique towns and cities
>one person disconnects, causing everyone to leave
>can't even remember what the older versions were called anymore
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>>386257152
To be fair you only asked him for one
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>>386258656
>Teach the orcs that genocidal maniacs are their role models and paragons of orchood
>Settle in a desert with literally zero resources for "penance"
>Actively recruit genocidal Alliance rebels to make sure that peace will forever be impossible
>Pay lip service to peace but quietly endorse anyone who wants to slaughter Alliance
>When the orcs are inevitably frothing at the mouth for all out war put a patsy in charge
>Go on vacation for a few years
>When the patsy has been demolished by the faction that outnumber the Horde 1000:1, come back for a final twist of the knife to make sure that everything he's ever known, cared for or trusted has crumbled to dust
If I didn't know that Blizzard was full of retards I'd be 100% sure that Thrall is secretly a diabolical villain.
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>>386258864
>i didnt stole any buffs! i got receipts for everything!
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>>386258656
>think critically
It was just shit writing on Blizzard's part.

>I am sad because x
>no Garrosh Grom was only slightly less retarded than you think
>ok cool now let me do the exact thing I was sad about
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>>386259687
And then you have to wonder why some people support "extremist" stances.
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>Wow, Thrall is such a green Jesus, why doesn't he have any flaws? Stupid Metzen
>Wow, Thrall is such a dumbass, why did he put so much fate in Garrosh? Stupid character
This is the main problem I have with the "Green Jesus" meme
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>>386261473
The Green Jesus meme isn't the idea that Thrall has no flaws, it's the idea that Thrall is a major fuck-up, but because he was Metzen's OC the lore had to be bent to make him a Messianic figure. Everyone is happy that he's stripped of his powers and is a worthless piece of shit, we're just frothing at the mouth because it required Garrosh's death to get to that point, when Garrosh had so much potential that was wasted in an orc expansion.
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>>386233838
The menu effects were orgasmic
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>>386261727
>wind howling
>chains rattling
>stones grinding
>gates slamming
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>>386261473
He's green jesus because of cataclysm. The incompetence part comes from Thrall fucking up and denying he did nothing wrong.

What a coinkydink that the expansion where Metzen retires from Blizzard is the same one where the two major characters he wrote and voiced also retire or die.
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>>386262681
>Varian went out like a badass
>Thrall is a pathetic cuck and a shadow of his former self

damn
>>
can somebody tldr me on
>Nerzuhl
>arthas
>why that helm got Nerzuhl inside
>was Nerzuhl' the retard we killed in a 5 shitty man? really?
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>>386263135
>everyone regrets the loss of Varian and the void left after his death

>literally no one gave a shit Thrall the Elemental Cuck left and lost his powers
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>>386228471
Are you stupid? Warcraft III is generally seen as an incredibly good game for it's time. We've all done that.
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>>386263360
Because Varian got a badass cinematic and literally went out in a blaze of glory. Thrall just sorta went "I don't wanna do this anymore"
>>
Childhood is idolizing Thrall. Adulthood is realizing Garrosh makes more sense.
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>>386263696
If by "adulthood" you mean rebellious teenager who thinks the system is "totally broken, bro", then yes
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>>386263356
>orc shaman that got fucked over by Kil'Jaeden who basically ripped out his soul and put it into an ice-block, then chucked it at Azeroth
>Prince of some country who got tricked to death and ruined his country, proclaiming himself King in the process
>see above (it's called Helm of Dominion)
>ALTERNATE DRAENOR WAS A MISTAKE
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>>386263817
t. child
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>>386263360
Whenever I think of Thrall I think of him crawling on the ground during the Broken Shore cinematic

>"HELP ME, GARROSH"
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>>386263356
>Nerzuhl
>why that helm got Nerzuhl inside
Best orc. Best shaman. Of the first to get fucked by the demons. Rebelled. Tortured for ages and soul torn from him, forged into the Lich King armor. Demons think he's completely under their control, slowly plots their demise using the Scourge.
Metzen then forgot he existed. Retconned via some bullshit ala Arthas personality devoured his when they merged.
>arthas
Pawn Ner'zhul took a xanatos gambit on. Original plan - demon plan - to use him to forge the downfall of the northern human kingdoms. Top Orcboy used him to do that and free himself from the Frozen Throne.
>was Nerzuhl' the retard we killed in a 5 shitty man? really?
They just looked up WC1/2 character wiki pages for bosses.
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>>386263957
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>>386230550
I always thought it would be Lich King vs Kiljaiden and the world gets caught in between.
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>>386264034
Thank you, that makes me laugh everytime.
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>>386264131
That's pretty much what would've happened if Azeroth's population (the players) didn't suddenly grow balls.
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>>386264034
The game may be shit now but I have to say the memes are the best they've been since WotLK at least.
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>>386263356
http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Rise_of_the_Lich_King
>be orc shaman tricked into working for Kil'Jaeden
>Kil'Jaeden tears his body apart and forces him to serve permanently
>Ner'zhul's soul is bound to armor, put in a glacier, and thrown onto Azeroth
>gains power over death, raises zombies to defeat spiders, and raise them as well
>removes Frostmourne from his prison and has it placed where someone can claim it
>recruits Kel'Thuzad from Dalaran
>he creates the Cult of the Damned
>Jaina and Arthas kill Kel'Thuzad at the request of Antonidas
>"Glad you could make it, Uther" happens
>Arthas and Mauradin sail for Northrend
>both of them eventually find Frostmourne
>Arthas claims it for himself, supposedly killing Mauradin and losing the rest of his soul
>Ner'zhul whispers to Arthas to find him
>returns to the Eastern Kingdoms, makes the Dead Scar, and resurrects Kel'Thuzad at the Sunwell
>Kel'Thuzad opens a portal for Archimonde while Arthas goes to Kalimdor to advise Illidan
>Archimonde explodes along with the World Tree thanks to Malfurion
>Arthas returns to Lordaeron and realizes that Ner'zhul's power is weakening thanks to the crack he made to release Frostmourne
>Arthas and the now-demon Illidan fight in the snow, Arthas leaving him for dead
>Arthas releases Ner'zhul from the glacier and fuses with him
>goes into meditation for years, waiting for the right time to attack
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>>386264302
I'm happy this one has been enjoyed a bit
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>>386264394
> wowwiki
No. Link to wowpedia.
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>>386263995
>Metzen then forgot he existed. Retconned via some bullshit ala Arthas personality devoured his when they merged.
That was in some terrible book that isn't canon.
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