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12 Years wait between Skyrim and the Elder Scrolls 6

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How is this acceptable, most estiamtes say we won't get tes 6 until 2023, this is ridiculously long and embarrassing. Can they not allow another company to make a spin-off in the meantime? and I mean a proper rpg, not a MMORPG shite.
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>>386215332
who cares, Elder Scrolls is coming to Bannerlord
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>>386215332
Bethshita are hacks anyway. I don't understand how each game got worse than its predecessor.
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The longer the normies have to wait to play their trash the better. I will enjoy the next few years of not hearing about that garbage.
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>>386215332
what do you mean anon? skyrim special edition just came out!
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>>386215502
Skyrim was better than oblivion, morrowind was better than daggerfall which was better than arena.
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I'm not really bothered at this point. Mostly because I have very little hope that TES 6 won't follow the path that Skyrim and Fallout 4 have laid out. I expect the next installment to be more concerned with gimmicks and streamlining than with creating a believable and enticing world.

Morrowind may very well have been a fluke. It's not terribly uncommon for a collaborative team like a game studio to turn out lightning once, purely by circumstance, accident, and whimsy and then never again.
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>>386215904
>Skyrim was better than oblivion
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>>386215332

The fact that they threw all these Skyrim ports at the span of two years is only pushing that TES6 is coming eventually, maybe VGA or E3 2018 reveal
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>Skyrim was better than Oblivion

Don't make me laugh casual youngling
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>>386215332
Because they want to make different games.
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>>386215395
How so?
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>>386216223
overhaul mods as per usual
bannerlord will attract a much larger fanbase which will undoubtedly include a lot more fans of other IPs
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>>386216020
It was a huge step up in terms of setting and intrigue, the civil war alone is more interesting than anything I can think of from Oblivion that isn't deeplore. A mixed bag as far as mechanics though.

Undoubtedly it was simplified but at the same time much of Oblivion's stat and skill system was bland, holdovers from the purer RPG titles that ended up being superfluous in an action RPG game.
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>>386216020
>>386216149
Oblivion was my first elder scrolls game, it has some good quests but the main quest sucks and every other aspect of the game is mediocre. The level scaled world makes progression feel nonexistent, the levelling system discourages levelling, the lore of cyrodiil was completely retconned and made generic (they also ignored the colovian/nibanese divide) and most of the dungeons felt like they were copy pasted.
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>>386216149
Ironically it's the true children who rate Oblivion over Skyrim. If you were an adult when Oblivion came out you realize both are shit.
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Oblivion mods > Skyrim mods
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>>386216363
>the civil war alone is more interesting than anything I can think of f
are you FUCKING kidding me?
the one where the very first quest is sending you off into another draugr?
go fuck yourself, retard
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>>386215332
>Can they not allow another company to make a spin-off in the meantime?
And get humiliated by a company like Obsidian again that did a way better job in a ridiculously shorter amount of time? Unlikely.
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>>386216503
Are you illiterate, they were clearly talking about lore and setting.
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>>386215332
perfect time to muscle in on their market though. You wouldn't even have to put that much effort into it. (in light of the millions of dollars you'd be earning at the end)
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>>386216468
I'm truly puzzled as to the sheer breadth and size of the Oblivion sex modding community. There are thousands, at the very least, thousands of weird tentacle sex unicorn pregnancy mods that Skyrim can barely approach and Morrowind certainly never had. Especially considering that Oblivion is so hard to mod stably, I just don't understand.
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>>386216549
setting is irrelevant when it comes down to it
it's logically equivalent to discussing the state of the graphics
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>people still not realising elder scrolls online was the new tes
The next game will come out around 2020.
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>>386216584
Japan got their hands on Oblivion, anon.
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>Hasn't handed Fallout to Obsidian
>Not even working on another TES
>Trying to pioneer paid mods

Fuck everything about Bethesda
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>>386216598
Morrowind isn't so highly received because of its mechanics, which are if anything deeply flawed. If you don't care about setting and story then why in the fuck are you playing an RPG.

Also, aesthetics matter too. Oblivion happens to be ugly as fuck for reasons unrelated to its now unimpressive fidelity.
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>>386216598
But thats what they were discussing, they said that the setting and lore of skyrim was more intriguing than the lore in oblivion and you start bringing up quests, a completely irrelevant topic to what they were discussing.
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>>386215332
It'll be sooner, they'll make it a rush job like fallout 4 was and sell the watered down garbage on brand recognition
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>>386216692
The Obsidian of today isn't the same as the one that made New Vegas and given the animosity between the heads of development we'll likely never see that Obsidian again.

I'm comfortable with the real Fallout concluding with New Vegas, it's a good end.
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>>386216724
>lore of skyrim was more intriguing than the lore in oblivion and you start bringing up quests
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>>386216795
frontier vs capital


frontier wins the shit to do battle every time, no matter what game genre or theme.
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>>386216852
word
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>>386216780
I would be upset. Valenwood has potential to be great given the setting. Hopefully they can figure out what made Skyrim so bad
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>>386215332
>2023
They're going to release Skyrim for PS5 at that point. Don't kid yourself.
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Skyrim 2 when??
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>Implying Elder Scrolls will continue to get single play games now instead of Elder Scroll Online expansion packs.

The series is going to get the Warcraft RTS treatment.
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>>386215332
The bright side is you get to enjoy 4 installments of wolfenstein in the interim
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SERIOUS QUESTION

Why do you guys jack off to TES games?

I have tried Morrowind and Oblivion back in the days, but the combat just felt god awful. It just feels like shit, and it's a huge game breaker for me.

Maybe you like the RPG aspect of the game, which is fine... but how can you even get in the story with those shitty mechanics?

Same goes for Fallout.
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>>386217567
open world light RP
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"The technology isn't there yet to make super high definition walking trees."

"No we aren't going to spend the next 3-5 years working on the lore, quests, gameplay or writing in anticipation for this new technology."
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>>386215332
Add a few years on to that because it won't be worth playing until there are good mods out for it.
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>>386215332
Who the fuck wants another janky ass piece of shit in the gamebryo/creation engine where everyone acts like a busted showbiz pizza puppet. Empty-world Western RPGs got put on notice by 2017.
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honestly they should just give CDPR the IP and have them make their games from now on, same with Bioware
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>>386219160
>give the franchise with bad combat being its primary issue to the company that has indisputably made the worst combat system in the last 2 decades
The goal is to save the elder scrolls series, not maim its corpse
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>>386219558
Yes, but the games will actually have good writing and presentation for once
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>>386215395
I'm hopeful for Bannerlord because I like modding but I highly doubt it will be anything but Mount and Blade but slightly better.

Read: boring, boring even to mod
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>>386216020
it is, you stupid cuck.
get with the times, you faggot fuck.
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Special edition came out like a year ago, we won't be getting Skyrim 2 until around 2020
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>>386216363
>Civil War Questline
>Good
>"Yo go capture this city"
>"k cool now take this fort that we'll never use"
>"k cool now we take the capital"
>"gg btw this doesn't affect anything else"
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I imagine they are probably making a new engine and are probably in the early stages of VI. Fallout 4 took 4 years of actual development to make, so I get the feeling it will probably be between 2019-2021 before it comes out.
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>>386219838
can't you retard even read what is the actual point being discussed?
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>>386215332
Why do you want to waste your money on another simulator without gameplay? Bethesda games are probably the worst popular games in history
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>>386220269
*walking simulator
>>386216363
>TES
>Action RPG
Please tell me your joking, skyrim was supposed to be an action game it was the worse action game of all time.
The civil war was not interesting, the quest line was as bare bones as possible and ending it changes nothing but the color the guards wear.
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>>386220115
>bethesda
>implementing a new game engine
One can dream...
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>>386215332
I mean Bethesda's dumping a lot of their effort into their joke of an MMO while that meme is still kinda popular. Also they're working on Fallout 5, and apparently some new free roam RPG title that isn't Fallout or ES. And probably are already planning a sequel to come out a few years after if it sells. Development of another ES game I think would be impractical for them while they're constantly working on tweaks and content for ESO. And all those other things
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>>386216020
It really was

I think people remember Oblivion being way better than it actually is
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>>386215781
Don't forget "Fallout VR" and "Skyrim VR" are coming out BRO
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>>386216154
Yeah I'm kind of down for that really, I'd like to see what kind of universe Bethesda would create.
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>>386215982

>What is Oblivion
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>its still going to use gamebyro
>its still going to have awkward floaty controls
>its still going to have weightless melee combat
>its still going to have completely soulless magic
>its still going to be mostly fetch quests or kill someone in that cave quests
>its still going to be strictly single player with zero coop or pvp
>its still going to be the same boring races with the same boring conflict
>its still going to instance every last building with even slower load screens
>its still going to have the same lifeless AI populating the world with three voice lines to shout at you when you walk past them
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>>386221892
>>its still going to be strictly single player with zero coop or pvp

This is a good thing.
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>>386216692
>>386216793
>tfw knowing that if Troika had bid just a bit more for the license we could have got multiple FINISHED New Vegas-quality Fallout games under its creator Tim Cain
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>>386222130
Yea, you are probably right, but I wouldn't be against them testing the waters a little with the next entry. Coop in particular would just flat out increase sales, even if it shit all over the atmosphere. And PVP could be interesting if the combat wasn't so terrible.

The only kind of MP I'd really like to see in any Elder Scrolls game would be a roleplay server equivalent, with real people working the stalls, playing the jarl, the draugrs. But even that quickly becomes a different game.
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>>386221892
given the amount of time they are spending on this, I bet beth is sweating because of all the other good open world games that have been released. I wonder how much polish they can put on that turd.
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>>386223274
No I think they're sweating making the game actually good beneath it's polish. Beth really is the master at polish. When other devs made fun of the thought of little Todd making big boy RPGs, he got the last laugh with a procedural-generated map that was amazing at the time.
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>>386222161
>New Vegas
>quality
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>>386225135
You're right.
I should have said Van Buren quality.
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>>386215904
I actually prefer oblivion. Back then i could see past the bugginess and shitty combat but skyrim was well behind where it needed to be. The only good thing going for skyrin was the sheer size of the game.
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Next Elder Scrolls will probably take place in the Iliac Bay.

Remasters/remakes are big these days so I wouldn't be surprised is they revisit it. Ideally it will have multiple factions and kingdoms and maybe even naval combat. It'll most likely end up being Skyrim with hills and deserts though.
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Isn't the wait between Grand Theft Auto titles longer than the wait between Elder Scroll titles?
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>>386227020
Hammerfell/High Rock would actually be a really good location, just with the variety of factions and cultures there. There is the direnni elves, the tribal reachmen, pirates, the breton kingdoms, forebears, crowns. It would have the potential to be really good they didn't have a consistent pattern of casualisation.
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Maybe this will be the one that actually ditches Gamebryo
Maybe this will be the one that actually has a sizeable dev team for their vision
Maybe this will be the one that actually is fun to play
Maybe this will be the one that actually that will have dynamic quests that aren't just kill X
Maybe this will be the one that actually lets the player do what they want
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>>386216712
>Oblivion happens to be ugly as fuck for reasons unrelated to its now unimpressive fidelity.
the only part of oblivion that is "ugly as fuck" are the character models,
the game has a very painted quality to its environments and items
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>>386227892
Gamebryo is fine, most of the engine is custom coded by them anyway and thats their problem, don't blame gamebryo.
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>>386228028
too late already did
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>>386228028
>Gamebryo is fine
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>>386228229
Tell me with all of your technical expertise, what is wrong with gamebryo?
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>>386221386
ESO is from a separate studio, Zenimax Online Studios, not Bethesda Softworks.
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>>386215332

How do you estimate based in no facts? I say, new game in 2019.
See? Problem solved.
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>>386216020
Oblivion was a fucking mess. Just awful
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>>386228353
remember skyrim?
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Don't worry guys, Skyrim and Fallout 4 have infinite quests! They'll keep you well and truly occupied until TES VI. Make sure to buy the VR versions when they release for an immersive experience like no other.
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>>386228653
Not a reason, most of skyrim is custom coded, I'm talking about gamebryo. Its pretty obvious you don't actually know anything and are just regurgitating what you have read.
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so what mods are you fuckers using? just finished building a mid-high PC and I can finally run this game effortlessly, so now I wanna go nuts
the sexlab framework is full of god awful animations and OSex, which looks and handles amazingly, barely has any content. god damn it all
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It will be out in 2 years at most
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>>386215332
There working on a new engine, they gave us TES 5 special edition/Elder Scrolls: Online which is sort of a joke that counts as an elder scrolls games. But I'm glad they are spending more time on thier games

>>386221386
>and apparently some new free roam RPG title that isn't Fallout or ES

Thats "Starfield", sci-fi space games are starting to trend. When the trend is at its peak Bethesda will probably release it by then
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Meh, I got my Elder Scrolls Online and that makes me happy
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>>386228838

It's a shame OSex got shafted because it came out too late in Skyrim's modding scene.
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>>386229778
doesn't help that skse64 still isn't released. Who want's to dev for the old game when the better version seemingly has script support on the horizon?

It was a bad decision of the skse team to hide their lack of developers for so long. The interest in making their own script engines has vanished months ago.
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Bethesda's """new""" engine better not fucking suck after all those years.
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>>386230003
Apparently even bethesda tried to help the skse team, it's never going to come out and thats pretty much killed sse modding.
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>>386216020
Oblivion has the most fun quests and storylines but overall lacked any style or character of its own. It was a weird lime green tolkienesque blur for most of the time outside of quests.
Morrowind is the most realised depiction of the TES universe and draws you in with its uniqueness. Skyrim was better at that than Oblivion but still dumbed down a lot story and lore, not to mention the shallow gameplay and pitiful quest design.
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>>386230263
Why doesn't bethesda just provide their own skse equivalent? It should be tremendously easier doing this when one has the source instead of hacking around with hex values.
It would also solve proper mod support for consoles.
Well, perhaps their engine is so shit that it is easier to inject code separately like a virus.
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>>386216363
>>386216429
>>386221541
>>386228584
Oblivion has the Dark Brotherhood, Thieves Guild and Shivering Isles for good content.

Skyrim has Dragonborn for good content. And in turn, it has literally the worst quest lines in the series with the Thieves Guild and Dawnguard.
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>>386216303
>Mfw Alessian Rebellion Era mod that allows you to slaughter the Alyeid horde
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>>386216149
Except it is. And if you can't accept that, you're the childish one. Oblivion < Skyrim < Morrowind
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>>386221892
>its still going to instance every last building with even slower load screens
Aside from the loading screens, this is comfy to me. I feel more isolated from the world like I do IRL when I'm in-doors.
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>>386231841
Excluding Dragonborn, name me ONE good thing about Skyrim over Oblivion and Morrowind.
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>>386215332
I hope they at least let Obsidian do a New Vegas Sequel in the meantime at least.
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>tfw ESO is actually a good game but its going to get endlessly blamed for dragging the development for TESVI so they don't "splinter the consumer base" despite one being made by a completely different studio and a new single player RPG not really tearing away the persistent MMO crowd

Bethesda is unironically, objectively, and literally the worst gaming studio under the Zenimax umbrella.
>idTech or Machine Gun Games could do a better Fallout
>Arkane could do a better fucking everything
>Zenimax Online created a better combat system in their MMO than Skyrim has
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>>386232352
Bethesda will never let Obsidian touch Fallout again. Mostly out of humiliation.
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>>386215332
Bethesda is full of money right now so they have no urgent need to release the game.
Also the more people wait the more hyped they get even if the product is utter shit.
I can't wait to see the "omg I waited so much for this I'm going to faint!!!" streamer bullshit
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Boom
journey back to Skyrim
Boom boom
For the first time
Na na naaaa
And experience tamriel
Na na naaaaa
In virtual reality, 8k remastered, directors cut, legendary, edition.

Ba boom "dovakin dovakin ooga booga ba na na."

The way it was always intended. Coming. Christmas. 2020
"Hoo hoo ooohruh"!
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Help pls.

What mods do I need if I'm about to play Oblivion for the first time? I've played F3, FNV & Skyrim but never Oblivion.
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>>386232487
Don't they care about the money, they could make billions off of it.
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>>386232128
Over Oblivion at least, Armor design for the most part, I mean I liked a good deal of oblivion's armor but I felt Skyrim did it better mostly.

>>386232740
Odds are, Todd memes aside it isn't a Bethesda issue in terms of the game studio it's the Publishing Arm and Zenimax that won't let it happen.
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>>386217386
I doubt it, just the normal edition of skyrim sold twice if not three times as much as eso
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>>386215332
>omg this time they learned every flaw of previous games and are going to make it better
>game comes out
>it's even worse than the previous game, like everytime
why the hype
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>>386232718

OOO, or your mod of choice to remove the atrocious level scaling.
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>>386232718
who is this
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>>386215332
Skyrim is still selling more than it should. You also have ESO.
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>>386233389
random whore #4353534
Go back to /b/
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>>386233457
>Go back to /b/
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my prediction is the hype upon announcement will be Skyrim levels, but people will see through the flaws much more quickly and the modding scene will never take off like FO4
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>>386215332
i REALLY want the next game to be in Valenwood
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>>386233506
>what's this literal who camwhore's name? sauce? SAUCE? SAUCE?
I stand by what I said, faggot.
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>>386233568
What if Todd's actually making a good game this time?
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>>386233506
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>>386233664
I almost became retarded looking at your post
please end yourself
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>>386233842
>almost became
You don't need any help becoming retarded you already are.
>can't even reverse image search
Go chug bleach you underage hormonal fairy.
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>>386233819
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>>386233842
Hes right you fucking mouth breather.
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>>386231846
Completely agree. The disconnect between comfy inside and outside is helped by the fact they're instanced. They have their own ambience specifically crafted and feel safe. player housing mods that aren't instanced leave me feeling exposed to the world.

if only they could fix those god awful loading times.
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>>386230536
what if they actually integrated skse into the game at launch

you know make the actual game better
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>>386233956
>reverse image search
it usually doesn't give any sauce but this time did, I'll admit it

>>386233965
the fuck you said to me
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>>386233819
I wish, but we both know what sells. I can't conceive a reason with suddenly they will make more intricate RPG mechanics like morrowind's or even olbivion. that doesnt cover it all but that's what matters to me anyway
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>>386234167
I don't care you retarded faggot, I just hope your mom veers into oncoming traffic and takes your mongloid ass out with her the next time she drives you to GameStop.
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>>386234231
keep tiping you assmuncher I'm having a giggle here thinking about your autistic rant
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>>386233819
The signs of the next elder scrolls being a good game is bringing back the old colleges of magick and giving a sneak peek to people showing that they have been fleshed out rather than being swept under the rug
But the way I see it, it will all end up being ATTACK and MAGIC where ATTACK is your typical sword swinging and MAGIC is like the Doug button.
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>>386234094
Not really possible without updates. SKSE is only useful because modders made request of what they need over a long period of time. I doubt bethesda is willing to update their game for a few years without paid mods.
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