It's going to fix everything and unkill the game right?

>>386213664
nah shits fucked at least post Norn qts if you guys are gonna have these threads just no rats/plants/furries

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>>386213664
Game is far from dead as it is. And it seems to be more heavy on the content then the features this time around. So it ain't going to fix much.

Also Norn.

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>>386213925
>not wanting to stick your dick in a moist strawberry flavoured plant vagina

>>386213664
Yeah, just like HoT did, oh wait

>>386213925
>no matter how hot you make your norn they're still the worst race in the game from every other perspective
Somehow anet managed to fuck up literally everything about norn except their (female) bodies

>>386213664
>>MMORPG

>>You get all your skills by level 10

>> You can hot-swap every decision you made about your character. Spells/Specs/Talents.. all of them are basically Call of Duty weapon 'attatchements'. Yes. i'd like my mesmer with the silencer attachment today, and the ironsight attachment tommorow.


>> Teamplay and Dungeons consist of multiple people 'co-incidentally' hitting the same boss.

>>Half baked 'combo' spell idea that isn't even worth paying attention to or using.

>>Target audience for the game is teenage and pre-teen girls wanting a fashion simulator

>>Game is literally developed by a band of lesbian trannies (you can't make this up).

>>Spells are so retarded they make no sense.. Example: "Fire an arrow.. You go invisible.. your pet runs faster, you do small damage, and the guy down the street finds a quarter, while your computers CD tray ejects"...

There is no thought to these spells besides a random combination of effects that the tranny mind seems to have vomitted out during class design.

>> Adds content only to remove it after a certain period of time.

>>Story line consists of: "I AM THE BAD GUY!"... "I AM THE GOOD GUY I WILL KILL YOU"!!.. "NOOOOOO" and other hilariously cliche dialog:

For example: https://youtu.be/IDtLOWvpkF0?t=117

After 3 seasons of story... this is the 'final' boss of the expansion... the best the writters could come up with is "I AM THE BUST EVIL" "NO I AM GOOD GUY I WILL STAB U".. *Dies.


If there was an award for worse designed game that still 'looks' okay... this would be it.

>>386213664
>fix everything

If you mean turn "the game around by 180 and make it GW1.5 all the whiners want" the answer is no. Just let it go.

>>386213664
No because there's still going to be a bunch of grind they promised wouldn't be in there that they added because fuck you we want the WoW crowd.

>>386213664

>No new weapon
>No new class

They fucked up

>>386217545
>main is a female Norn
>always use Endless Embiggening Tonic during gameplay
>mmMMmmMm

Are they going to make a new elite spec that's mandatory for all pve groups like chronomancer and druid?

>>386217719
I can honestly play devils advocate and defend no new class because of all the new elite specializations
>no new race
Now that's a fuck up

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>>386217719
At least it's just $30. I am amazed by the fact they haven't been adding new weapon types at all. At some point all the professions will be able to use all the weapons and then what?

>>386217910
Are Anet shills so desperate for content that they consider a fucking trait line and 10 new skill tops for most classes as a full class? Hang yourselves

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>>386213664
I haven't really played since the game came out.
I levelled to max, finished the story and then fucked around in that big open PvP thing for a couple days and dropped it.
Is there worthwhile shit in it now?

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>>386217910
because adding a new race would probably be the biggest addition content-wise considering just how much content is tied to your race choice before you reach level 40 and story becomes about orders.

>>386217931

They should just make the Aquatic weapons usable on land and add respective traits to them. That alone would open up some need build options.

>>386213664
It will never be like GW1 anon, just let it go. This trash will always be an SJW shitty WoW clone.

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>>386217795
Nani?!

>>386213664
No.
They shouldn't have let trannies make a game then it might have been actually decent.

>>386217931
well you said it yourself, there's no actual need to add new weapons until they exhaust the current ones
also, they wouldn't even need new weapon specs if they bothered to balance existing ones against each other. as it is each class can equip anywhere from like 4-10 weapons but only 1-3 are competitive

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>>386218471
>1152x720
Computerlets are adorable

>>386213664
>It's going to fix everything
Medium clothing skins will still all be trenchcoats, I imagine, so no. (the three armor sets they add, lol)

>>386220016
>tfw 2560x1080 is the perfect MMO resolution

>>386213664
> unkill the game

The game is not dead you've been wrong for 5 years it's time to stop. It's a way more successful game than GW1 whether you like it or not and you can bet it'll still be alive in 5 years and have at least 2 more expansions after this one.

But no, it'll not fix much things, it'll just add content, hopefully way better than HoT. they are fixing the game really slowly with each update since several months but there'll never be something that'll suddently fix everything.

>>386213664
I really tried to like this game, but it was just so insufferably dull, it didn't really excel in anything, there was nothing on offer that other games didn't do far better. Too bad I paid for the expansion.

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>>386216348
>more heavy on content
Literally no new fractals/raids/profession/race. Mount gimmick to help players traverse the new empty desert zones faster because probably 10% of the zone has actual things to explore in it. No mention of WvW/sPvP whatsoever.

>>386213664
i wish i was delusional as you, anon.

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How the fuck is scourge gonna work synergize with the Necro traits? The ones that modify your skills are a given but I'm talking about the Spiteful Spirit, weakening shroud, unholy sanctuary and Foot in the grave traits. Those ones require you to enter into shroud form for them to trigger and Scourge doesn't have shroud.

If they just flat out don't work with Scourge I'm gonna be fucking pissed

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>>386213664

>forcing more WE into your game

>breaking several of your promises (mounts, cash shop relevance etc.)

>not breaking the promise people actually want (end game content)

>raping the story of GW1

>hiding power behind a paywall


Sadly it won't. It will retain its housewives/whales and do okay with the cash shop money.

the game is shit and is going to remain fucking shit, get over it

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>>386221314
They drop fractals and raids in outside of expansion patches, you know, like usual. Probably one or two months after PoF there will be a new raid at the very least. The content here is story, maps, new masteries, mechanics and specializations.
As for new professions or races, it's unlikely that will happen. Races will likely never happen due to the amount of work involved. New class is a little bit more likely but still unlikely. Why bother with new classes when you've already got all your bases covered and you can just expand those bases into more niche classes through specializations?

WvW/sPvP will be given some new life with the new specs dropping but sure, there are no new maps or anything like that. Those two usually receive updates through separate patches anyway.

I'm not trying to defend Gw2, my point is just that HoT was more heavier on the features while PoF looks to be more meatier on content.

>>386221443
Can't find a source but I read somewhere that shroud related traits would function differently when playing scourge.

>>386221516
>cash shop relevance

Wait, when was that said in the new trailer?

>>386217584

>Spells are so retarded they make no sense.. Example: "Fire an arrow.. You go invisible.. your pet runs faster, you do small damage, and the guy down the street finds a quarter, while your computers CD tray ejects"

This is gold anon
this game is bipolar. From the story to map design, nothing makes any fucking sense. Its like a fever dream

Remember when Anet actually released full expansions? Oh wait, you don't because you underage GW2 shills have never played GW1.

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>>386222070

That's what burned me out on GW2. They make content and then leave it to rot.

Fractals, dungeons, finishing aspects of the main game maps.

It's really becoming clear that ANet is run by dummies who are contracting out to make new content to sell units, then letting them go and now never coming back to the content they jam into the game.

Look at the new trailer. Most of those guys we hired just for this expansion and they will be gone the second it's up.

>>386222331
>had only gw1 with no expacs back then
>tried nightfall one free weekennd and fell in love with assassin
>never been able to buy it
>fast forward to today
>want to play gw1 isntead of gw2 and get the expacs
>nobody plays it
I'd be better dead

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>>386222356
>we

>>386221516
>>forcing more WE into your game
Nightfall was 11 years ago, memester.

I miss Cantha so much...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKJSC_mteIg

Are there any good GW2 tracks? Jeremy really did some good work with the GW1 soundtrack and I think his music is what really sold the game for me back then.

>>386222103
that's how skills were in GW1 too

>>386222540
it's still worth playing through GW1 solo. Some really great zones and world to explore. Being able to recruit and customize an entire MMO raid party is the best. Why don't other games let me do this?

>>386222331
>muh silent majority
funny how the gw1 pop sharply and then steadily declined after gw2. either most actual players got so autistically mad that they just stopped playing a game they really loved, or they were fine with gw2 and moved on

>>386222712

Why was it good again and superior to the pile of shit that is gw2 then?

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>>386222691

Funny how 99% of the characters weren't (forced) black characters (even in Nightfall).

>>386222712
post one example because they weren't

>>386223008
well yeah, at the time ncsoft was a nice korean company trying to make a good game so that they can earn $$$

>>386213664
>two expansions later
>literally 0 new dungeons
GW2 is a meme

>>386222708
Every single Soule soundtrack sounds exactly the same.

>DUDE ENGLISH HORNS AND PIZZICATO STRINGS LMAO

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>>386222331
Things have changed. Technology has changed. Voicework alone is probably one of the biggest things holding them back to create the same amount of content like they did back then.

I spend nearly a decade in Gw1. Gw2 is a different beast, once you start treating it as such you tend to appreciate it a bit more.

>>386223008
You're kidding, right? Nightfall was filled to the brink with black characters. Nothing was forced about it back then and neither is forced about it now. It just fits the setting.

>>386223320
Well duh, it was fucking Africa and India. But not every NPC you encountered was a nigga desu. Most of the enemies were white guys :^)

>>386222856
real answer? for the same reason that D2 was "better" than D3
it was easier to obtain endgame items and fulfill the power fantasy of poorfags, while in the newer games they get left behind just like irl because they lack the skill and/or aren't willing to do the work
short version: most "adult" gaymers are millennials

>>386213664
>no new classes
>no new races
>no new dungeons
>5 new areas
>no new weapons
>no new pvp maps
>every cool new armor is locked behind paywall even though the game is b2p

but you'll get
>mounts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXvBjCO19QY

it's gonna be the same old shit

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Enjoy telling mentally ill trans NPC's how "brave" they are

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>>386223504
>someone believes this
it's just the opposite

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>>386223403
>But not every NPC you encountered was a nigga desu.
But a very large majority was. And who says this will be case in PoF?

> Most of the enemies were white guys :^)
Not like I remember it. Link me to five white human nightfall enemies on the Gw wiki.:^)

>>386223102
>Elite Bow Attack. If Melandru's Shot hits, your target begins Bleeding for 5...21...25 seconds. If it hits a foe that is moving or knocked down, that foe takes +10...22...25 damage and is Crippled for 5...13...15 seconds.
thanks for proving that you don't play the game

>>386223843
your age?

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>>386223783
You are very brave for posting this in every Gw thread you see, anon.
Enjoy this advertisement, I'm sure you'll enjoy it from deep inside your closet.

>>386223956
>an arrow making an open wound is the same as an arrow making you invisible magically when you shoot it
thanks for proving you're a fucking retard

>>386223956
that cherry picked example is not nearly as bad as the average GW2 skill

>>386224046
29
diablo3 is a fucking walk on the park (I'm talking about rifts and that stuff)
compared to diablo2 hell, not even talking about clones
in diablo3 you get a legendary every 5 minutes and a few patches before it was insane how many legendaries you could get

>>386223914
I don't really care about GW2. I just like the original game.
Bayel and Kahyet were relatively white. Most of Kourna wasn't pitch black but I wouldn't consider them white either desu

>>386223102
GW1 skills definitely got more convoluted

Just look at stuff from the newer classes like ritualist and dervish, it got kind of wacky.

>>386223956
>shoot an arrow
>if the arrow lands on a still opponent the target bleeds
>if the arrow lands on a running opponent the arrow cripples the target
sounds pretty reasonable, what's wrong with it?

>>386224069
>comparing skills with an effect that didn't exist in gw1
holy shit the desperation to have some kind of argument. play gw1 please

>>386224221
in gw2 you have every class like that

>>386224368
>the desperation to have some kind of argument
but you're the one doing that
I provided you with an equal example and you're now "b-b-but that didn't exist!"
get fucked kid

>>386222708
Soule has done such a boring and lazy job on GW2, I'm glad there's some new blood trying something different.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH1IQ_fZjto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAvo9QwJCpc&t
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QW4DWizfMYA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y2sREpzL8I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl_rsTre628
https://youtu.be/cCPUOJXLZYU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5RqQVPUExg

>>386224442
lol 2's problem is actually the opposite, everything is too simple and boring. they even revamped the trait system so you'd have like 3 build options per class.

>>386224165
legendaries in D3 are/were mostly junk items, you had to also roll the right stats on them, as opposed to D2 where the top end uniques always dropped with the same stats and it wasn't that hard to just farm them out from bosses. that's why people hated D3's endgame and the RMAH. if they made endgame items easier to obtain, and now people like D3 better, that only further proves my point. millennial

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>>386224168
Bayel and Kahyet are black as fuck anon. Kournan soldiers wear full body armor with facemasks mostly but the Kournan civilians are pretty much all black. And that's just fine.

>>386224052
>y'all
thats the most offensive thing in that image.
also only rats are good as traps all the other races suck.

>>386222070
So basically "please buy our expansion for stuff we may or may not deliver through patches".

>>386224545
They can't be black because they can't be racist!

>>386223169
dungeons were abandoned as a concept

i think most people like fractals and raids more anyway

>>386224515
it's simple, boring and retarded
it has everything

>>386224530
you usually get your stats on the items you get, and you can reroll a stat as many times as you want with the enchanter
did we play the same game? I could equip three or four characters with just one character farming legendaries
on the other way good luck to get the item you need on d2, also the game is harder

>>386224359
you should ask >>386224153 why he thinks it was cherry picked. lol not that your arguments can ever go beyond "gw1 good, gw2 bad"

>>386224442
dumbass, there is no stealth/invis in gw1. if there were such an effect that belonged to the bow-using class, do you think there would not be an arrow shot that would do it?
play gw1

>>386224769
just how fucking lazy did they get? jesus
IIRC dungeons had 4 different paths no? with different bosses along.
let's make fractals instead, give them one route and give them an artificial difficulty slider so they don't complain about not having hard mode :^)

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Daily reminder GW1 wasnt good until GW2 came out


> The whole time we were making Guild Wars 1 and putting out expansions for it we had forums filled with people bitching about all the stuff they didn't like about it, how we need to fix everything. And the second Guild Wars 2 comes out Guild Wars 1 was the greatest thing ever made.

https://youtu.be/zNlOogD0cDU?t=2019

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>>386224485
Too much of GW2's soundtrack was just atmospheric stuff for the zones and reworked Norn theme became the main theme as well as ongoing motif throughout the game. In comparison a lot of Heart of Thorn's soundtrack is much more varied and main theme is excellent with proper buildup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtvnP91PDfQ

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>>386224614
Basically "please buy our expansion if you want new specializations, story steps, maps, masteries and game mechanics".
They didn't say anything about stuff being added later down the line during the announcement this time, since it backfire with HoT.

Raids weren't part of the of the first expansion neither and will always be separate patches since it's a completely separate team working on them. sPvP got a new gamemode with HoT but it flopped so it figures they aren't going to try anything fancy now. They are working on new maps though, but not for the expansion.
They are unsure what to do with WvW I'm guessing so they just keep trying to improve through patches.

>>386224769
The only thing they need to do to fix dungeons is reinstate the Gw1 lootdrops. The smaller your party, the more loot you get. I can clear a bunch of dungeons solo or duo. Takes longer but it's fun for me and my guild.
Shame we don't get more dungeon currency per undermanned run or more chance at rarer loot.
Gw1 did this so perfectly well.

>>386224782
enchanter wasn't in vanilla, so actually no we didn't play the same game and you've proved my point again millennial

>>386224967
Exactly, even though GW1 had massive flaws it was so much, much better than GW2 that people started praising it as being flawless.

>>386224967
Doesn't change the fact that GW1 was still so much better, despite its flaws.

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>>386224967
This always happens, though.

>>386224967
>tfw you like both

>>386225052
New legendaries and raids WERE part of the announced HoT features for release and we got them months after.

>>386224889
>dumbass, there is no stealth/invis in gw1. if there were such an effect that belonged to the bow-using class, do you think there would not be an arrow shot that would do it?
do you realize how retarded your post sounds? there is no skill that does that, and that's what counts
invisibility mechanics are a thing since the start of videogames so they could've made it
just stop replying faggot

>>386225068
oh so now we're talking about vanilla d3? nice goalpost moving
d3 vanilla was so terribly easy and sleep inducing that you didn't need anything too powerfull, and anyways you'd get an endgame set in little time (that's what I did)

I hate replying to children, bye retards

>>386225337
And now it's part of the continued development of the game, they shouldn't even have to mention that anymore.

>Guild Wars 2: Heart of Thorns is the first expansion pack for Guild Wars 2 and was released on October 23, 2015

>New legendary equipment types: back items and armor

>Legendary armor was implemented with Living World Season 3 Episode 5 "Flashpoint" on May 2nd, 2017

Wow it only took them 2 years after charging people $30!

It's literally impossible to have a thread about Guild Wars 2 on /v/

No other game devolves into frothing angry retards every single time. Literally every single time.

And /vg/ is nothing but cliques and ERP

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>>386225337
I think big change evident in LS since season 3 is ANet is using it to supplement the expansion instead of separate thing the way content patches usually are. Season 3 was essentially just a continuation of HoT story-wise and they brought features that were missing.

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lolded gaem ree SJW SJW tranny ded game ded ree.

>>386225628
BLACKED

>>386225589
Not your safe space ANet shill :^)

>>386224485
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=418_HKUuzz4

I absolutely love this track. It really made mindlessly grinding Dragon Stand bearable.

>>386225589
>hurf durf why can't we circlejerk about my precious SJW game
>>>/r/eddit

>>386225664
epic :D GOT EEEEEEM xD

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>>386225641

>all the marketing was about how this is YOUR STORY
>by "your" Anet meant "Salad Sue's"

>>386218013
depends. there is huge amount of fun stuff to do. getting through hot and unlocking some masteries is great.
unlocking fractals on tier 4 is also fun.
but the long term goals are of course grind heavy (legendaries).

>>386225749
cringe t.b.h.f.a.m.s.m.h

>>386225703
WHO DARES DEFY MY ETERNAL WILL

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>>386225782
>bitching about treehorn
>literally in the year of our lord thousand and seventeen

Reminder that GW2 is shit.

>>386224485
>missing the best song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZQDCZtaAfY

the ost is among the few things gw2 did better than gw1.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUQFBzUoQxY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtfjWleiHQ4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oFGagjD18o

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>>386225807
>but the long term goals are of course grind heavy (legendaries).
>tfw you don't give a fuck about particle effects and flashy fisher price garbage.
Feels good to be free of that curse.

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>>386226087
I always find overly flash gear that people consider end-game just silly. Shame more fantasy games don't do the Age of Conan style of gear.

>>386226136
>tfw I'll never rip off some punks head with Bear Shaman again
>tfw I'll never be an unstoppable dark templar that deals no damage but at least I never die
>tfw I'll never start my combo pre hell rush on my Herald of Xotli then turn into a demon and shit fire everywhere and kill everyone in a ten foot radius

Age of Conan and Warhammer Online both did fun PvP MMOs that died from shitty companies.

>>386225641
>he doesn't know they lowered the wvw caps like 5 times

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>>386226087
i dont own one either. i have the precurser of astralaria and Kraitkin but axe is shit for my main. and so i am waiting for a scepter or dagger.

but the amount of particle effects is a fucking problem in gw2. whish there was an option to turn that shit off.

>>386226087
Sylvari can't have big tits. Can they?, What race has the biggest tits?

>>386213664
>fixing a themepark mmo

>>386226429

Probably norn girls

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>>386226429
The big girls

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>>386226380
that is the direct result of letting boypucci and homosuxaul devs with squirts of tumblr splashed all over their faces and hair.

>>386213664
I'd like to believe that this isn't a shill, because I do want to discuss GW2, but god damn if it doesn't start like this every thread. Come on, there are definitely better ways to do this.

>>386226810
the fuck? like i know that gw2 is shit compared to gw1 and the artstyle is like one main critism that i have. but you idiot posting a raid designer twitter acc has shit to do with gw2's failed artstyle.

btw raids are one of (if not) the best thing in gw2 now. so be a good idiot and write her a "thank you" message on twitter

>>386213664

mike o brien said he left directorship roles so nope, game will die again

>>386226810
I'm all for shitting on degenerate tranny scum, but the raids are unarguably the most commonly agreed upon to be the best designed part of the game

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>>386226810
At least the other one looks better and knows how to apply make-up beyond the skillset of a 12 year old.

I think Chappelle is embarrassed by someone like "Jessica"

Engineer, Mesmer or Necromancer? I can't decide on what I want to main, I'd like to be more damage/support.

>>386226925
It might just be a bot at this point. Welcome to nu-internet.

>>386227175
Depends on what you want to do.

You aren't going to damage and support. You're going to damage or support.

Engineer if you want to be damage
Mesmer if you want to support
Necromancer is just bad in every regard

This isn't taking into account any of the new elite specs, fyi

>>386227175
out of these three? mesmer.
but the safest bet is ele.

>>386224967

vocal minority bitched about gw1 expansions, they were fucking great and better than propechies ever was, especially factions

>>386227014
>>386227131
>raids
>gw2
>gw2 raids
hahahahahaha.
found the white knights

>>386225589
The game is offensively bad, people are going to complain about it.

>>386227421
WOW CLASSIC TROLL :D:D:DDD: xpost that on pol XDDD

>>386227275
>>386227318
Chronomancer and Scourge looked the most interesting to me as far as Elite specs go, leveling as Mesmer is ass and I don't enjoy the base class as much so I'm wondering if its worth it to really be sitting in Chrono all the time.

My issue with Engi is the opposite where Scrapper looks kind of underwhelming and I'm not sure what to think about Holosmith. Sad to hear Necro is still firmly in the "meh" tier.

>>386227454
The game is a definitive "okay"

People complain because it isn't similar to GW1 in any way shape or form

>>386227421
Ahhhh, natsu da ne

>>386227172

No longer with Anet, btw. We had to loae the fucking good one and get stuck with the drag queen.

Teddy doesn't even design the raid shit, by the wa, he does the achievements or something. At least lena contributed worthwhile shit.

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I only use GW2 for ERP tbqh.

>>386224967
No, GW1 had a fucking horrible dickweed in charge of balance and the GW1 community literally told him how to balance the game and he ignored them out of spite.

Guardian or Revenant?

>>386227803
Guardian

>>386224967
> WoW for poorfags
> can't even jump
> instanced games are shit
> portals with loading screen everywhere breaking the immersion
> all the maps are circled with mountains
> there's like 10% of the skills that are useful
> I can only make human characters, seriously ?

Yes GW1 was hated everywhere, even people that had bought it were bitching in Lion's Arch chat

People seem to have forgotten that. I like both games but the idea that GW1 was universally considered as one of the best online game ever is laughable.

There's a reason the devs gave us a rushed EotN instead of GW Utopia to start working on GW2 as soon as possible.

>>386227172
Cute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j3XzQc7lAE

>>386227513
i main necro and even if its meeh tier, you wont have problems finding groups for everything except raids and perhaps t4. if you are in a guild you wont have problems at all.
sad said, meta can change in pof and necro could be the new thing. very unlikely.
sad said, leveling is so increadible fast now i wonder where your problem is. if its not your first character you should have at least a level scroll from bday and a few tomes. if its your first character you should enjoy leveling.

>>386227803
guardian.

>>386213664
>download it again
>start new character
>do first 10 levels of quest zones
>even fighting 1v5 against mobs you have zero challenge
>no one joins up or communicates for any reason

You know what could be cool, an MMO that was hard. Level 1, first mob, if you dont time your abilities/dodges perfectly you die. Join with a random and you can easily take down one together, two would be a challenge, join with a third and two are easy, ect

Instead of this fucking pointless
>solo grind to 80 THEN the real game starts we promise

>>386227897
I have the level 20 scrolls but what do you do for fast leveling? Just map clears or what?

>>386227982
Anything that comes your way, especially events.
You also don't have to do entire events if there are other people doing them, just tag enough mobs to get gold participation and go do other things.

>>386227982
clears/main story/crafting
the game throws XP at you like silly.
it will slow down around lvl 65ish.
make sure you go for the points in zones while clearing.

also Rev is the new Paragon

So I bought HoT and got a level 80 boost that I used on my Warrior, do I have to go through the personal quests before I get HoT?

What is a good build for Warrior?

Does a tank really only come into play during Raids or does the toughness = aggro mechanic work universally?

>>386228297
Only during raids

>>386227932
fight champions.
pull a group with veterans.
>>386227982
its been a while since i leveled in a normal way (i have +150 tomes left).
job leveling gives you experience and cooking shouldnt be so expensive.
dungeons also work (plus tokes for gear if you dont have gold)
wvw was also a good way to level.

i also liked to go to areas without many players and fight against mobs which were usually skipped (moas, boars, underwater). They gave bonus xp and if you have enough boosters (food+utility+bday booster+blacklion stuff) it really paid off.

>>386228206
no.

>>386228206
No, you can start the HoT story directly from the Story tab.

>>386227743
Is it only one server or?

>>386227932
>You know what could be cool, an MMO that was hard. Level 1, fir

Yes, single-player tier AI would be nice to have in an MMO. Unfortunately MMOs are MMOs and not single player games.

>>386228297
It works somewhat in older dungeons but it's never used, it's no so much about tanking than it is about moving the boss.

>>386228720
It doesnt have to be smart idiot, it just has to be hard.

>>386228720
>MMOs have to be easy
You're an idiot

>>386213664
Geez sure must suck having to market for nu-anet.

>>386229053
>level 1 starting zones should be as hard as the end level content

>>386228594
GW2 servers don't really matter for anything anymore other than WvW because there's overflow and shit.

>>386227932
>>even fighting 1v5 against mobs you have zero challenge
which is hilarious because looking back on it people were dying in starter zones during launch over not dodging shit

>>no one joins up or communicates for any reason
because you don't need to. I mean, you don't need to form a formal group to benefit from anything seeing as you can do it all while solo and with others around.

>>386213664
If you need expansions to fix a game, if mere patches are not enough, then the game is pretty dead alright, and not even Jesus will be able to unkill it.

daily reminder that calling this game dead is a meme and it is very much alive and in a better place than its ever been

>>386223008
>no forced black character
What is the difference between forced and unforced black character

>>386229840
This

>>386229278
Objectively yes, they should be

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>>386224967
GW1 wasn't perfect or the best game ever. Hell, I remember getting frustrated with it a lot of times and quitting for months at a time. In spite of all that, GW1 managed to be a far better game than GW2 in terms of challenging content, build diversity, storytelling, soundtracks and art style.

The reason why people are so bitter about it is because what they wanted to see was GW1 with selectable races, jumping, being able to swim and open world content. What they got instead was a group of trannies and tumblrites hijacking the IP and turning what could have been something amazing into a monster wearing GW1's skin like some sort of fucked up masquerade outfit. GW1 is effectively a dead game too, since less and less people are playing it every day and there just isn't anything to get people interested in it again. The servers are there, but they're empty.

If one of your favourite games ended up in similar circumstances, you would probably be bitter too.

>>386213664
After the last one I'm not touching this.

GW2 was dying for me the moment I realised they just didn't give a shit about class balance, so the necro was doomed to be useless in PvE because lolzerkerbuild.

GW2 was pronounced dead for me when they made it free when HoT came out. That's got to rank pretty high up among the 'fuck you's of vidya history right?

>>386217584
After playing Arche Age, before the money dupe glitch was revealed, i started Playing GW2. At first the combat and progression felt better than AA but in the end GW2 does not have anything to do. You can literally just run dungeons until you have all the fashion skins for your armor after that its just boring. And most of the stuff you obtain by grinding the same shitty dungeon over and over again. Its not very fun. The only thing that was fun for a while where the combat system.

So yeah your post sums it up perfectly.

>>386213664
The unapealing class feel in the game ruins it for anyone after a long enough time playing. The classes suck ass and the way dots stack feels terrible. Nothing but an overhaul of it all will fix it.

Thats why WoW survives so long, they always have some class/spec that has decent class feel at all times, which classes feel the best change depending on person and patches but theres always a few that still feel great.

>>386230941
It's surprising how little some people care to look stuff up before posting in this thread.
End-game reaper can be condi, it's even easier to play condi reaper.
And now the scourge is adding a ritualist spec to the necro. this should be exactly what you want.

>>386213664
Games too fucked. Everyone left in vanilla after living world started and turned out whack.

>>386231104
>>386231104
Isn't the problem with condition builds that they stack to a max of 25 so basically you can't have more than so many people running it before they literally are useless?
Also I'm pretty sure the elite specs were HoT only weren't they? So I gotta buy an expansion to be of any use, fab.

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>>386231197
The condi cap was removed years ago.

>>386231270
well, glad they figured at least something out then.

still doesn't make up for the awful gameplay unfortunately, or the constant gem shop jewery which is another element that pissed me off no end.

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>>386231104
I want a class that I can build from scratch that does awesome combos.
I want Spiteful Hexing to be a weird variant of Necromancer. I want 55 monks.

But really. I want Factions. Fuck Nightfall, its where the game started to shit the bed.
Jade sea was dope.

I forgot how fucking ugly the game is.

Do I have to buy both expansions to play properly now? I dont have my old account anymore.

>>386224967
I missed out on GW1, but I remember everybody saying how great and HARDCORE it was compared to that WoW babby shit.

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>>386226810
>Raid designer just now cleared O1S.
How is this acceptable?

>>386231690
Holy fuck, he's ugly. No amount of make up or hair can hide his man face.

Just tried some of the HoT pve content.

Definitely better than WoW's.

Years later, Legion still has the 'kill X' in an area quest gameplay.

>>386231762

SHITLORD
H
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Just fucking play FF14.

No wait, fucking drop the mmo genre for good. It's dead and will never come back.

I hate the writing so much. Some of the ideas in the story are cool, I like the whole
>We've been killing the dragons to stop them from wrecking our shit but now we've realized that if we kill all the dragons we'll be unbinding the magical elements from the spectrum which is resulting in unstable magic which will trigger an apocalypse scenario. The gods are suddenly returning however because the dragons are fucking with their powers and they don't give a shit about causing a magical apocalypse in our world.
That all sounds like a fun idea for a game or a tabletop campaign or whatever, the problem is that Diversity's Edge are shitty fanfic tier characters and whoever is writing the dialogue is trying to make quippy marvel movie dialogue.

I'd bet you that the average roleplayer on Tarnished Coast has a more well written character than those fucking rejects in the Living Story.
except Canach. I kinda like him

>>386231690
How has his transexuality affected raid design?

>>386231874
EVERY MOB HAS DICKS AND A WIG

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>>386231874
Because beautiful females cant raid.

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I want to hug a cute female bald asura.

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>>386230768
This.
GW has a lot of awesome potential, and and then the idea of making a direct sequel to that was exciting. But then they started to introduce the races and we got scared.

tfw just playing to do jumping puzzles

these fuckers are fun, bros. spent about an hour learning Troll's Revenge today without following guides, it was infuriating but ultimately pretty fun. do they reset daily or is it one and done? also are there harder ones than TR?

>>386231965
that's one expensive stream

>>386232110
They reset daily and yes, there are a few harder ones.

>>386232190
thanks, anon.

>>386232230
Griffinrook jump puzzle in Lornar's Pass is one of the best and hardest jp especially if you try to bring the bomb across the trek. Getting there requires you to swim through a sort of secret underwater tunnel covered in ruins.

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>tfw you're an FF14fag and you lurk in these threads simply because people actually discuss their game
>Despite knowing nothing about the game, these threads are comfy and are the closest thing I can get to FF14 threads since the witch hunt began
>implying I will fuck off to the cesspool that is /vg/

So what's "endgame" like in GW2? I hear progression is a bit different from your typical MMO themepark.

>>386232110
the ones in living story season three are great and the hard.
also silverwaste jp.

>>386232047
as a female asura yourself?

>>386232353
Lots of grinding but its a horizontal treadmill so stuff from the base GW2 are still relevant to gearing despite new patches/expansions.
/vg/ is an awful place and the only safe mmo general on there is /tesog/

>>386232353
It's shit. Just go to the FF14 /v/ threads.

>>386232353
>So what's "endgame" like in GW2?
paying IRL munnies and grinding garbage for skins.
it's not a lie when people call it fashion wars 2
or skin wars 2

>>386232353
There is no end game

>>386232353
It's very meh. Couple of 'raids', to run alongside a bunch of dungeons with scaling difficulty and rewards. Raids are 10-man and the rest if 5, it's not very interesting and it definitely doesn't last you long enough, like true end-game should.

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>>386232409
If circumstances allow it.

>>386232353
End game is running fractals, which are like mini dungeons with increasing difficulty, 10 man raids, PvP or World vs World (3 servers mass PvP on 4 maps).
Your end game goal is first going to be acquiring the gear to do all that, then mostly consists of unlocking cosmetics.

Is Banner Warrior Support actually fun? Also can I use Longbow with it?

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>game with an active playerbase is dead

This meme must end.

>>386232509
Banners are always good and don't require any specific weapon. If you're still leveling and running low level dungeons, anything goes so go wild.

>>386227803

revenant

>>386232467
fine taste my friend

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>>386232353

endgame is whatever you want it to be

you can join the special snowflake club by hunting legendary gear that sparkles
you can join the elitist cunts that raid 24/7 wishing the game was wow
you can ERP with the degenerates
you can explore, jump around and discover shit just cause
you can fill out a massive list of achievements
or you can simply stand still in a city and play the market to see your useless gold piling up like I do

>>386232815
>play the market
what should i hord now before pof?

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>>386232815
>>386233036

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>>386233036
Absolutely nothing. Go away.

>>386233071
>Not sellings all your login mystic coins and trading all your laurels for heavy crafting bags to sell on the market
>Not barbieing the sluttiest clothing so you can ERP in Salma with the rest of the degenerates
Can't wait to login this evening to get my Anet Welfare, wagey ;)

>>386233036

>leech wanting free money


hold on let me just put on my lollerblades lololololololololo

>>386232353
This game are meant to be played with friends.

The best endgame in GW2 is the open world PvE. It's pretty casual and easy, though you need to get used to your class pretty quick when going into the HoT zones.

The dungeons are boring and easy, but still can make you gold but nobody runs them anymore.

There is fractals, the "endgame" 5 man instance like dungeon, the recent one is pretty challenging. And the raids are the autist tier 10 man bossfight you expect from any MMO.

The game shines at exploring and the stupid minigames they throw at you to get your stupid masteries. And one of the few games that have good jumping puzzles (fuck Chalice of Tears, that JP was shit)

And it has the best QoL ever in any videogame, aside from salvaging stupid runes/sigils you cant sell or use.

Anet also have the BEST customer support and pretty chill about refunds. I bought the Sentinel Outfit and told them its ugly as sin. They refunded me immidiately.

>but anon the combat is shit
The combat isnt shit, the reason is that players are not punished much on spamming cooldowns, instead of using efficient rotations and timing your weapon swaps/kits.

>>386234258
>This game are meant to be played with friends.
That's not true though, with all the stuff like loot sharing, shared participation and group events, the game is a lot more fun with friends. I don't know how other MMOs adapted to this now but back then, GW2 was one of the very few MMOs where you could actually play with other people in the open world and not be bothered by them stealing your mobs.

>want my asura to have bare feet since all armor does is clip off his fucking toes
>oh cool an invisible foot wear skin
>3000 gold

ok I guess I'll settle for the boots that have toe holes

>>386234570
Asuran cultural armors my man

Do Revs take Necro's place as the edgiest class? I haven't played since before HoT.

>>386230147
Genereally speaking, the character is there because it fits the theme. In nightfall it was a mixture of egyptian and nubian cultures. Forced is something like the new star wars movie where the actor was given the role purely for his melanin content.

>>386224545
Not him but Elona was a mixture of nubians and egyptians, I think thats what he's getting at.

>>386236324
>Forced is something like the new star wars movie where the actor was given the role purely for his melanin content.
not really. as long it fits the material its good. roland in dark tower is forced for example. random stormtrooper being black fits star wars.

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>>386236415
Still all black though. Just different shades of black. And there is literally nothing pointing towards that Elona 2.0 will be any different.
I don't get what wasn't forced about Elonians being black in Gw1 while all of a sudden it's going to be forced black now because muh SJW boogieman

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>>386236563
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jj-abrams-diversity-in-film_us_56d86d3ce4b0ffe6f8e860dc
>>386236664
The egyptians weren't black and neither was every single character in Elona.

>>386236920
i dont care for whatever shit reasons burgers do they shit stuff. in the end a black stormtropper works in star wars and fits its universe.
roland in dark tower is different because racism is on the main themes in the later books.
no back to pol with you.

>>386237343
>Point out that he only got rhe role because of his skin colour, thus forced diversity
>REEEE GO BACK TO /POL/.

Go back go neofag.

>>386217584
>>>Game is literally developed by a band of lesbian trannies (you can't make this up).

If this is true i'm quitting that game.

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>>386237662
There's one that does some menial writing or something else menial on the raid team.

At least they are lesbians and at worst they'll flood the game with big tiddies.

>Mounts
How much you wanna bet anet is going to fuck this up and not include junundus?

>>386238041
I'm sure they are going to introduce rainbow unicorn in gem shop though.

>>386238041
Well Junundus wouldn't be possible to have as regular mounts as you can use them anywhere but I sure hope they have Junundu related stuff.

>>386213664
Even if it did, that wouldn't make it a worthy sequel to Guild Wars.

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>>386238041
Palawa had to teach the PC to ride the Junundu. I doubt they'll go that route again and they'll likely stick to the mounts already shown.

It would be cool if they put in Junundu as an enemy type though.

>>386227932
>Level 1, first mob, if you dont time your abilities/dodges perfectly you die
I'd uninstall. Just like I uninstalled GW2 months after it came out.

Why is this game so fucking dead?

Why does this game try hard to become WoW?

>>386238041

gemstore jewery for sure

>>386238645
it isnt.
it doesnt.

>>386238041
Enjoy your wacky meme mounts.

>>386238645

>about to release expansion
>le dead meme XDDDD


subscribed

>reinstall game
>try to change mindset and enjoy the game
>try different things
>get awfully bored within less than a week
every single time

I think GW2 is ok. I have fun with it. I also enjoyed GW1 back in the day. I have no idea why this game makes /v/ so mad besides the tranny developers.

The game is great right now. Most of the people that whine about it are either mad GW1 players, people that played at launch and during LW1, or people that don't even want to like the game and just latch on to the first thing they don't like and act like it ruins the game

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>start playing
>roll ranger because i'm antisocial so it's perfect for soloplay
>get yelled at in event trains for not being a druid

Just let me play the game you fucking autists

>>386238041
IIRC they put a junundu model by mistake in the game some months ago and it replaced some other type of worm creatures until they patched it.

I'm sure junundu will be there but it would not be a mount you can ride everywhere.

>>386239650
>druid in open world events
Sounds like a retard

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How autists build:
>muh spreadsheets
>muh numbers
>muh optimal DPS under optimal circumstances
>REEEEEEEEEEEE at everyone that doesn't run the exact meta build

When will they finally understand that people running different things doesn't necessarily mean less effective? I rarely run meta shit myself and I can keep up with guildies that do in the DPS tester.
There are always a couple of traits and skills that are a cut above the rest and I respect that shit but it ends there.

Spreadsheet building is contrived as fuck. It assumes every fight plays out the same predictable way when in reality it rarely does.
Putting some scrub in glass cannon gear with all the +damage traits doesn't do anyone good. They'll just drop at the first encounter and be dead weight. If that same guy just picked up a defensive trait line that enables him to stay alive he's literally 1000x more effective then playing a strict meta build.

Reminder to not fall for the meta meme. It's good to know which traits and skills are considered meta but do not fall for the meme.
It's ALWAYS better to experiment and tailor your build to your specific wishes, strengths and weaknesses. Doing 0.3% less damage means jack shit if it helps you to survive all encounters.

>>386239228
>I have no idea why this game makes /v/ so mad
Because they expected a sequel to GW. GW2 didn't even have GvG at release.

>>386217584
You don't even play the game, retard.

>>386239962
Not a minmax autist but it's usually not that easy to tell whether you have a good off meta build or are just a retard running whatever gear you got your hands on and spams everything off cooldown.
Instances have become a daily routine that a lot of groups just want to get it over with and don't want to deal with picking people so if you have a meta build, everyone can at least assume you can play that meta build acceptably and they can have a smooth and relatively fast run.

>>386239962
You're not special. It's not hard to figure out the meta. I made a PS before I ever knew this was a build. I thought I was some kind of genius, but turns out the game doesn't really give you a lot of viable choices when making a build. Not to mention some classes can't even make builds viable enough to do T4 fractals. And again, for most PvE content any build will do, as long as it's not full retard, but good luck getting into raids with your "FUN" build. I hope with two elite specs this changes.

Maybe if one day they decide fuck it were gonna revamp combat and make each class into a trinity role (including support/debuff).

>>386224614
>yh cuz they def WONT be adding raid/fractals, the things that people play ashitton. Tots aint gonna do that
Are you legitimately fucking retarded?

>>386241662
Yeah because we need more games with a fucking trinity.

>>386241838
We do because this showed that content is ruined by not having it. The game (prior to raids that practically enforce it) is just a big zerg fest of DPS who rush in and hit things till they die with no coordination or need for specific builds. Then real content comes along and forces it like an MMO should in the first place.

>>386241838
GW2's failure proved that the trinity is still good lmao

>>386233723
>disussing cash strategies is being considered a leech
okay senpai

>>386241838
yes, and gw2 proved that by having shit combat. glad they are reversing this.

>>386241838
If no trinity is good why then they started introducing soft trinity?

>>386213664
is this game worth downloading and trying? i was a big fan of factions but havent played since

What are some tips for leveling elementalist? I'm used to more structure in MMOs but everyone and their mom just says to play the way I want but I -don't know what all I can do- and it's frustrating because no one will really tell me anything and the game itself is shit at explaining much outside of "loldodge." Should I stick with staves and pick nothing but power? Con for burning? Healing seems piss poor at lower levels, which I expected, but it felt like I wasn't even doing anything with the healing abilities for staves. This is all in PVE shit.

>>386241980
>>386241986
>>386242196
>>386242262
>we can't make anything better than a trinity so instead of trying we'll just have a trinity

GW had no fucking trinity, it was a whole lot more fucking complex than that, and that's what made its PvP and GvG so fucking good, because it focused on coordinating a team on things other than straight up tank/healer/dps models.

>>386242412
>GW had no fucking trinity
most builds where still based on trinity. sure it had "more" but just having a basic healer would have made gw2 ten times better.

>>386242586
>most builds where still based on trinity
If you're been playing off-the-shelf builds surely. Otherwise every single class took part in the fight, every single one took hits, and every single one could at least heal itself, and then support its team with a variety of skills, by strengthening all kinds of attributes, and all those skills meshed together nicely.

There was no set role, every class could be tailored to do anything, or a bit of everything.

>>386241769
People also thought they'd be getting new dungeons with HoT too. Good luck with your early access expansion you drone.

>>386242805
>Otherwise every single class took part in the fight,
depends
>every single one took hits,
just when shit was going wrong
>and every single one could at least heal itself,
sure they had selfheal skills. but not many classes used that, because a monk/ritu could do that much better. so the pve groups natually fell into frontline, mid and back.
>and then support its team with a variety of skills,
true
>There was no set role, every class could be tailored to do anything, or a bit of everything.
not entirely true.
classes like warrior will never be a good caster (two mana reg).
frontline classes had always higher armor.
monk had always a bonus on healing, but for a really long time were shit at doing damage.

My main was necro and i did everything in pve with him. had a good front n/w build for clearing eotn hm zones. or a active prot build which i played for a long time. but necro had Soul Reaping which made it easy to adapt different builds.

>>386242412
I dont give a FUCK what GW1 did or if it has anything to do with GW2's combat. You pick what works, and you gradually try new things instead of trying to reinvent the wheel overnight. See: Tera which actually managed good action combat but kept in trinity roles.

>>386241995

>stealing cash strategies

ftfy faggg

>>386244291
whatever helps you sleep at night, i still have multiple mystic coin stacks from 2 years ago

>>386244532

keep replying nothing will change retard, not going to tell you how to make 3000 gold in a week, I like my gem prices low

>>386244601
lol that ego, i don't give a shit about your epeen, neck yourself fag

>>386213664

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>>386244601
>slugging through ungodly auction houses to "make money" in a game instead of having a job and spending 0.000001% of your monthly income and take what you need whenever

I'm not gonna bash you because grinders like you is what allow me to buy on demand, but goddamit if you're a retard.

>>386239962

can confirm this. Running earth instead of fire meta ele with golem runes and leech sigil will keep you alive most of the time, swaping in cantrip skills and you are invincible while doing the same damage.persistance > pure dps

>>386242395
When in doubt just pick power+precision builds. Condi isn't that good for leveling.
For the weapons I'd say try to use all weapons to get used to them and find the one you think is the most fun. I liked using dagger/dagger and being close up as ele and moving nonstop back when I first played it. With ele all the weapons can go with any stat combo because of your attunements.

>>386245007
>grinding is bad
i can understand it. i even agree mostly with you. atm you can buy 145g for 10€ and if you look at ebay 360g for ~20€. dunno what the current best way to farm is. but i doubt you can even get close to 100g in a hour.
but if you follow through with this mindset, you will just buy a account with fully equip chars and your desired legendaries. this will take you an hour and than what? playing raids for rewards you dont care about? there are fun the first few times, but good rewards adds much to the experience. same with fractals.
grinding is part of an mmo. and gw2 does an okay job on it.