What went wrong?

Nothing. Vita is the new psp right now.

The memory card

>used my vita more than my wii u, 3ds, and ps3
>used it yesterday to play mgs 2
>about to play trails of cold steel on it
>best handheld ever made

what makes you think something went wrong?

>>386211887
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzYqEKxXNXM

>>386211812
They went totally overboard with trying to lock it down after PSP piracy fairly early on in its lifespan absolutely raped its software sales.

>>386212073
Sales, most of humanity doesn't know the thing exist, sony dropping support for the thing and calling it a legacy console.

>>386211812
Sony

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By not accepting SD cards and marketing it all wrong. Sony marketed it as a Cawadooty/Minecraft/Uncharted console when in reality nobody wants to play those games on a handheld. People want nip games more than anything and they basacily didn't promote it as a nip game device.

On another note, the thumb sticks are awful. They should've used the thumb slider that you see on PSP and 3ds. Thumbsticks feel awkward but at least they included 2.

It's pretty great though with Henkaku and SD2Vita. I would've sold my Vita that I lost and found if it weren't for Henkaku.

>>386212179
>sony dropping support
who cares? new games are still coming out for it all the time.
>Sales
i dont understand what this has to do with my enjoyment of the thing. also, its been out for years and years. how long did you expect it to last?
>most of humanity doesn't know the thing exist
most of humanity think destiny is a good game. most people (in the west) also dont use handhelds.

vita is amazing.

>>386211812
Sony
they killed it themselves

>>386212307
Does the sd2vita work with unjailbroken Vita.

>>386212492
>who cares? new games are still coming out for it all the time.
The company that made the thing dropping it 3 years into it's life is a pretty significant indicator that it failed
>i dont understand what this has to do with my enjoyment of the thing. also, its been out for years and years. how long did you expect it to last?
That's great that you do but that doesn't mean it didn't fail, plenty of people love the dreamcast but they don't argue that it didn't bomb hard. also it was out for 3 years before sony dropped it, that's an insanely short life span for a console.
> most of humanity think destiny is a good game. most people (in the west) also dont use handhelds.
and destiny sold amazing which made it a success and lead to a sequel. As for people in the west don't play handhelds the 3ds sold just fine in the west and is still being supported by it's creators 6 years after it's initial launch.

You may like the vita and it may be the greatest console you've ever seen but commercially and to the community and it's creators the thing was a complete and total failure.

>>386212492
>who cares? new games are still coming out for it all the time.
bad indie ports, whatever mediocrity of DRPGs and visual novels?
Whoa. what a great new games.

>>386211887
This and terrible marketing.

>>386212765
Nope lol.
I seriousily hope you didn't upgrade your firmware.

>>386212164
>requires specific FW
in the trash my vita remains

>>386212961
theres a huge difference between something being a success and something a commercial success. that's why i brought up destiny. it sold incredibly well and is getting a sequel, but it's one of the worst games i've ever played. so, it's a commercial success but in terms of video game design, it's one of the worst ever. the opposite is true of vita: everything about it is awesome, but it didn't sell well. same with dreamcast. dreamcast was utterly amazing. the first console to deliver better-than-arcade ports of games, but no one bought it.

>>386212492
This.

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>>386213185
>requires specific FW
Why on earth did you update beyond 3.60 to begin with?

>>386213296
There are no distinctions when it comes to success, success is a metric that gauges how well something did not how good it was. Like i said you can enjoy the vita all you like and consider it the best handheld ever made but by no means was that console a success. The dreamcast as well was an amazing console but was not a success by any means.

>>386213296
>everything about it is awesome
Slow down there champ. The memory cards, overly restrictive OS and piracy prevention, as well as weak software library are pretty bad. It does some things well but that can't disguise all the bad.

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>>386213524
>found Vita I haven't touched in a few years
>firmware 3.00

>>386213710
Enjoy the homebrew my friend.

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The vita is one of the best handhelds. I love my vita!

>>386213023
Woah, you're instilling obvious bias.

>>386213683
>weak software library
totally subjective. half the switch's library is on vita. i have dozens of games i've yet to play on vita. cold steel, ia/vt, i am setsuna, severed. thats just off the top of my head. ill probably pick up mary skelter and the new persona bemani games too. there are so many games on vita. so many.
>overly restrictive OS
i honestly dont understand what this means. what cant you do? it has custom wallpapers. i dont think even the ps4 or xbone have that.
>memory cards
yeah, they're pricey. but you can buy a vita and 32gb card second hand for less than $100. easy.

>>386214085
Fine, also Bamco ports like SRW V, Gundam Breaker 3 and SD Gundam GGG
Too bad each of those games is better for PS4
I have vita. I just have no used for it after D3 and D4.
Tried some compile hearts game, what a waste of money

>>386212307
>when in reality nobody wants to play those games on a handheld.
Actually people would like to play all of those on handheld, it's just the versions of those games it did get were all horrible.
>They should've used the thumb slider that you see on PSP and 3ds.
Good god no, the vita sticks are way better than that trash.

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>>386211812
So, just homebrewed my vita.

What are some good Persona-style games that I can dump my time into?
I've tried Caligula and Tokyo Xanadu, but they're not in English patched yet I guess.

>>386214278
>totally subjective.
All the games are objectively weebtrash. That's great if you enjoy weebshit, but don't get upset when the rest of the world says your weeb machine sucks when it has nothing to offer beyond loli pantsu quest 7.
>i honestly dont understand what this means. what cant you do?
Can't transfer games without the shitty content manager. Can't transfer saves alone since they are tied to the game as part of the draconian anti-piracy measures that are built into the OS.

>>386214496
Trails of Cold Steel my lad.

>What went wrong?
According to the butthurt vitagen faggots, absolutely nothing. To everyone else with more than two brain cells to rub together, expensive memory cards and a poor software library killed it.

>>386214639
>loli pantsu quest 7
This is almost as bad as that "Japan is so wierd XD" meme.

>>386214847
It's old but it's accurate. Blame weebtrash.

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>>386211812
Does the Vita have an EO clone much like it has an MH clone yet?

Or any other good games with sexy lolis in general?

>>386214931
It seems to apply more to games like >>386214960. Taking a single, even insipid, look at the most recently released Vita games disproves that.

>>386214960
How close to EO are we talking? Because there's lots of dungeon crawlers on the vita.

I haven't used this piece of shit in months it's library is a joke

>>386214960
>EO clone
>EO invented drpgs

are you fifteen? anyway, there are shitloads of dungeon rpgs on vita. stranger of sword city, dungeon travellers, demon gaze, and about a dozen more

They marketed it to the dudebro audience and suprise suprise, they only play the newest Madden or COD online. They have no use for a handheld. The handheld market is for people who like Japanese games. Dudebros just kill time playing flop brids or something.

Normies in the states didn't want it because SCEA totally fucked its marketing, potentially on purpose.

Nintendo handheld consumers didn't want it because it wasn't made by nintendo, even though now they are gobbling up ports gladly and asking for more indie game/console ports.

It pretty much appeals to people who liked the psp for the same reasons. Good solid variety of japanese games, which is all any good handheld ever really needed.

>>386215273
Close as in creating your loli harem from multiple classes and dungeon crawling

Nothing that specific actually, I just want some lolis to fight/fight with

>>386215409
Why would they want their console to fail?

>>386215402
They had very few games to even attract the Madden or CoD audience to begin with, and what they had ranged from mediocre to bad. The Call of Duty game was notable for being such an unfinished piece of shit that the development studio changed their name just to distance themselves from it.

>>386215564
Can't think of anything with a loli army. Maybe Demons Gaze? Can't remember if it had loli character templates. Haven't played it but there's also Moe Chronicles.

There's a bunch of others but I can't really recall them off thew top of my head.

>>386215409
they didnt fuck up the marketing intentionally. theres just no way to market the vita to dipshit normies, because the onyl games they like are halo and fifa and battlefield and cod.

i was in a game store with my stoner friend a few days ago. he was looking to buy a new ps4 game. he knows i play shitloads of games so he asked for a recommendation. i told him bloodborne was probably the best game on ps4, and it was only $20 second hand. he looked at the cover for two seconds before dismissing it and then picking up some assassins creed horse shit.

you honestly cant convince normies to play good games. even though bloodborne doesnt look japanese, some sensor in his brain went off and he knew that it was actually a well made game, so he went for ass creed garbage instead.

i then suggested prey, because he said he wanted sci fi stuff. he dismissed it and said it looks boring and then picked up the ps4 killzone game. i need new friends.

>>386215794
That's why it failed. They should've ran commercials mocking the 3ds for having just one analogue stick instead of two or showcased Japanese games but isstead they went full LE UNCHARTED AND FIFA!

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>>386212164
>tfw my SD2VITA is on the way

Up yours Sony

>>386216685
>128 gb of storage for less than 50 dollars
Isn't the current year great?

>>386216498
They were banking on that Call of Duty game hard. Even had a pack in with the console around when it launched. Sony seemed oblivious that Activision had pawned it off on some amateur developer with next to no time to make the damn thing. An actual portable CoD with multiplayer comparative to the console outings would have definitely sunk it's hooks into a large amount of teenagers and moved lots of hardware.

>>386216685
I forgot about it, glad I could make an order with a US made seller before he stopped.

I got my vita on a facebook selling group for 80 bucks, firmware 3.00. since then I've played the hell out of it and have been annoyed at how much I have to switch out games. This adapter will fix all of that.

>>386216871
We are in the freakin future. Cars drive themselves now. It's nuts.

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>>386213185
>requires specific FW
>being homosexual enough to have updated your vita without checking the scene first
You deserve everything you get little faggot boy

>tfw 3.61+ never
>all the newer Vita games we can never ever play, not even legally because the cart requires 3.61 firmware

>>386217023
They said we would also never have normal SD card usage but here we are.

Be patient.

Not enough games
Ninetendo Switch
Its dead, get over yourself

>>386217113
I'm okay with not being able to pirate 3.61 digitally but the fact you can't even use physical carts with 3.60 is a real kick to the balls.
I mean, I haven't bought any 3.61 carts. But there are a few 3.61 games I'd like to play.

>>386211812
Shit cost too much money. The console and a decent memory card cost an arm and a leg, and because of that not many people bought it, which means less games were released on the system. I bought one and hacked the shit out of it recently, has made for a good JRPG/GBA emu machine. I don't know how other emulators work, and if it's possible to do the PSP stuff without a PS3 though.

>>386217023
So this means new stuff like Caligula won't get English patched too right?

>>386211812


The Vita didn't sink so much as lost it's sales at sea.

>>386211812
SIEA

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>>386216685
>>386216871
Is there any limit on how big the storage on the sd card can be?

>>386217023
i've heard that 3.61 only patched the webkit exploit, so if true another webkit exploit should lead to 3.61 being hackable. Only thing is no one in the scene gives a shit.

>>386217510
Don't quote me on this, but go ask /hbg/ on /vg/
I think Caligula got a JP release on 3.60 and someone was working on ripping English assets so that you could play the 3.60 JP Caligula in English as a workaround. Obviously a very specific case and I'm not sure if it ever got actually translated or if he just showed off some Proof of Concept, but if I remember correctly Caligula is theoretically possible.

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>>386217395
The last game I want is Darkest Dungeon.

Other than that, my Vita is pretty much a PSP. Dual sticks for Monster Hunter is the tits.

>>386217602
SDXC has the potential to reach 2tb. The most we have today is 128 gb but 256 gb will be released soon enough.

>>386217634
Yeah I've got the JP release on my Vita, but I can't speak moonrune so I'ma need an English patch, I just hope 3.6 isn't outdated already

>>386217861
Pretty sure you can get stuff like 512GB, it's just not really commercially viable yet and costs an exorbitant amount of money. Also not sure it plays nice with most current tech. But it exists.

>>386217946
If it says 512, it's probabily some chinkshit 8gb pretending to be 512 gb.

>>386217861
>>386217946
https://www.cnet.com/news/microdia-will-sell-a-1000-ish-512gb-microsd-come-july/
This is from 2015, so the standard has probably advanced even further since. Wouldn't be surprised if 1TB is on the horizon- it already exists for full-sized SD https://www.engadget.com/2016/09/20/sandisk-1tb-sd-card/

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>>386217861
>>386218061
You misunderstand me anon, I'm asking if the Vita puts any hard limits on how much storage it's able to access.

>>386215579
>>386216182
SCEA didn't want to push a handheld at all and instead wanted to focus on the upcoming ps4. They didn't do much for the psp either, if you recall.

This is why SCEA made the choice, and it was their choice, to exclude a LOT of the vita's upcoming content from the e3 presentations and major press events in its first two years.

It's a little different for me looking at this cause I worked in the industry and was at those events and talked to some guys at SCEA about it and they generally just wanted to talk about other things even though they had a brand new system right fucking there.

>Hey, so, I noticed there's like, 50 games for this thing on the floor here and like 20 of those would have been great drops during your conference.
>Yeah well we really felt PS3 GAME 1 and PS3 GAME 2 were really critical titles this year blah blah blah

even though they wasted lots of time talking about corporate shit.

>>386218316
Probably 128 since I think Sony sold a proprietary 128gb card (which is incredibly hard to find/expensive because it was only sold in Japan in limited quantities)
The system might just support literally anything, but the highest Sony ever intended it to support is 128.

>>386212492
>>386214085
>new games still coming out

Yeah, games that require 3.61+ firmware, AKA games that you will never play if you want to get the most out of your Vita, you fucking retard, stop defending a shit console

>>386218546
What would happen if you unlinked the memory card from the Vita and bought it on another Vita with the unlinked memory card? Would the game still work on your 3.60 Vita?

Kind of curious because you can probabily find a 3.61 PStv on ebay for cheap.

>>386218746
Nothing because 3.61 games have new security keys. It would still require you to update.

>>386218546
Don't bully vitagen. They have a hard life as it is.

Sony

>>386218316
128GB is the absolute max according to the guy who came up with the vita to sd thingie iirc, but you'll suffer from corrupted data, missing saves, missing games until reboot and the like if you go with such a big sd card, 64GB is the biggest you can go with no issues whatsoever just like with the N3DS, however unlike the 3DS i'm not sure if you can make do with 64GB since psp and ps1 games are pretty big, nevermind vita games.

>>386219579
Is that true? The guy who made this says that you can use any microSD card.

>>386211812
>>386212073
persona 4 golden and MGS HD collection are my only reasons to buy a vita right now.

It got stomped by the 3DS, and Sony didn't give enough of a fuck about it.

I'm still anally pained because I was a retard who bought a PSP Go when it first came out, genuinely believing Sony when they said there would be games.

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what went wrong?

>>386221105
nothing. at all.

>>386221105
UMDs.

>>386221214
I watched the superbad UMD that came with my GOW edition psp on a plane trip to MN. Borat too.

no complaints on my end.

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>>386220827
I bought a vita in 2012 and p4g was so fucking good i played it for 300 hours, also MGS is good but i don't have the patience to complete it

I fucking love my vita. Greatest weeb handheld of all time. Still getting tons of games too released for it too. Love my 3ds as well. I do lament that these two seem to be the last handhelds ever. I will not be supporting the switch or any other gimmicky hybrid abominations.

>>386221296
Peace Walker?

Best battle is the helicopter in the jungle.

Have you seen the advertisements? It's a bunch of attractive normies on mundane everyday tasks like crossing the street or riding a train and they walk into a military combat zone or a baseball field or a boxing match. You don't even get to see what the system looks like. They should've taken the people out of it and showcased the system. If people knew that it had two thumbsticks and made 3ds look like a gimmick, they would sell. They really should bring back cut throat advertising like "Genesis does what nintendon't." The commercials were so unmemorable that most people thought it was a ps3 commerical. I didn't even know the thing existed at launch. Also they woulden't show the games. They just thought people would be satisfied with a portable ps3.

>>386221291
I got some use out of mine too, mostly a bunch of cheap movie UMD's I picked up at retailers when they realized no one would touch them at MSRP. That doesn't mean it wasn't a shitty drive that was loud and a drain on battery life. After getting cfw you never need to touch the UMD drive ever again.

>>386221105
UMDs made piracy a better option than using physical games. Who wants moving parts in a handheld when you can download the game and save battery?

This UMD thing is going to age so terribly. 10 years from now we'll be laughing at this clown design.

>>386222368
We were laughing at it the very year it came out.

>>386211812
Did the 3.6 selling bubble burst already or can I make a decent profit selling this on ebay

>>386212961
Truth. I love the vita but it failed because of bad handling

I use my vita pretty much exclusively for PS1 games. In that respect it's a success for me. I think it was ahead of its time in some ways. Sony was doing pretty bad before they dropped support. I hope another handheld like the ps vita comes out soon

>>386222764
If it does you can bet Playstation America will just ignore it on day one and fail to mention at E3.

>>386222860
I would expect that. A high schooler could market better than sony/microsoft clowns

>What went wrong
The fact that you could experience 99% of it's good games through a $40 side device that hooked up through HDMI to your TV, and the 1% leftover is getting ported due to sinking ship.

>>386222998
>$40 side device
what?

>>386223067
PSTV

>>386223067
He means the Playstation TV, which was just a TV set top box that was a vita, which wasn't $40 until it was out for like a year and a half or longer and didn't come out until two years into the vita.

>>386218546
We're talking about the Vita standalone, not including homebrew or CFW. The fuck did you come from?

>>386211812
Few games and the ones which are good are buried under mountains of third rate weeaboo shovelware.
Extremely locked down. Unjustifiably expensive proprietary memory cards. Even backing up save files is a pain in the ass.