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>here's your badge and gun

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The amount of pollution you would need to create an apocalypse seems impossible.

Overpopulation seems like a really easy problem to solve.

>>386195796
>and your OTHER badge...

>>386195858
overpopulation is already confirmed that it wont happen

>the ancient civilization that died out had SUPER COMPUTERS and ADVANCED ROBOT TECHNOLOGY

>Fight 10 minotaurs, 7 liches, 43 zombies, 2 hydras, 33 nagas, and a dragon all at once
>Surrender when you get surrounded by three city guards

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>Main villain is evil and doesn't really have any goal besides "be evil"

>people record audio-logs everwhere and leave them at plot important places for the main character

Wow....such an interesting way to get a story....

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>post-apocalypse
>big twist is just how the apocalypse happened

>>386196132
>be fighting a boss
>wipe the floor with him without even getting touched
>after I win it plays a cutscene of him destroying me and I get captured/left for dead whatever

Why even have me fight him?

>If we kill him we'll be just as bad as he is!

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>>386195738
>OP makes a thread
>it's a shit thread and he outs himself as an enormous faggot

>>386196751
This will never not make me mad

>>386196751
Name games that came out in the past three years that actually do this. I'm curious.

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>open world, zombie, survival, crafting, building

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>>386195738
>it's a ends-justify-the-means villain trope
>his means are fucking insane and immoral
>game desperately tries to get you to sympathize and spare him

>>386197067

Hey some of those were fun. But it's just been done to death.

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Mascot characters.

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>"SHHHH! Did you hear that?"
>"Hear what?"
>"... exactly.

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>evil path is always more fun and gets you powerful items/weapons/abilities

>>386196262
> main villain is evil for no other sake than 'being evil'
> it's actually done extremely well

Now I will tell you the answer to my question. It is this. The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power, pure power. What pure power means you will understand presently. We are different from the oligarchies of the past in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites. The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just around the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now you begin to understand me.

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>but what if the villain was RIGHT?????

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>enemies respawn offscreen or are resurrected

>references to pop culture from around when it was released

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>Karma systems
>Multiple endings that are chosen from in the final room of the fucking game
>Narratives that loop to tie into NG+

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>"well, that didn't work, time for plan b"
>"Plan b? Whats plan b?"
>"RUUUUUUUUUUUN!"

>My friends ARE my power!

>>386195738
>post-apocalyptic world
>it's a disgusting wasteland
Fuck I hate that.
I love it when that setting isn't apparent though, like in Etrian Odyssey. Not too high tech for the old world too, just enough to have some robots.

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>>386197237
this is why I liked zenos in stormblood
he just wanted to fight someone as powerful as he was, and he went so fucking far that he merged with a demi-god avatar of destruction for shits and giggles

he was kinda cool imo, passionately ridiculous

>something happens in 1 or 2 countries
>it effects the entire world

>>386197384
>enemies infinitely respawn until you run into the room they're coming from

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>trunbased jrpg
>has difficutly settings

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>>386195738
>post apocalyptic world
>yet another generic nuked world of ruined cities and shitty wastelands
Even post-apocalyptic worlds destroyed by fucking aliens or natural disasters are better than that shit. Fuck I hate the "we went nuts with nukes" excuse.

>church in an FPS
>look in preacher podium
>find booze

>>386195738
>Cyberpunk world
>It's also post-apocalyptic, just to make it completely obvious that it's a dystopia.

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>you have to play through the game twice to get the good ending

>>386197752
>for some reason the nukes are absolutely everywhere, with no city left intact

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>the villain did nothing wrong and was proven right later in the series

>>386195738
Could you please return to /pol/?

>>386197158
name some, i want some

>>386197884
>have to backtrack through every level find ever collectible and 100% the game to get the true ending
nope

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>Hero is a """witty""" sarcastic/cynic asshole with a "heart of gold"

>>386197823
Catholic churches always have wine.

>>386196262
I like that one, though. It's much better than mealy-mouthed "I'm not the villain here" deflection bullshit.

>there's only one corporation in the whole country
>it's evil
>the government is totally fine though. Its just the corporation that's evil

>character's entire personality is just making one-liners

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>>386198102

>>386198029
fuck you, go back to r/4chan

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>>386198102
>/pol/
Looks like /sp/ to me lad

>>386196336

>cutscene
>but it's not a cutscene because you can move around while they talk!
>replay Half Life 2
>want to fucking neck myself every time there is anything story related because it's not only garbage but unskippable

I'll take the logs, honestly.

>>386197926
And almost nothing in nature left intact either. It's even worse when they treat it like they nuked every square inch of the planet despite stating that it was just society that was ruined.

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>>386197235
trust me dude it's a whole lot worse when being nice to people makes you stronger. Bonds ending was shit but it was easier for first playthrough.

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>>386197752
Road Warrior still had the best post-apocalyptic setting
World hadn't nuked itself into oblivion just yet, but society had already fallen apart, so shitposters were fleeing the cities and killing each other for resources in the Outback, which is already a dangerous wasteland.
It's a shame no one else got the hint and just went NUKES NUKES NUKES

>>386198364
Yeah, that's a good way to do it, I wish more things decided to use societal degradation as the reason for it. Nukes are lazy as fuck.

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>main character's mutism is a plot point

>>386195937
I'll be the judge of that. Though resource depletion is a more viable scenario. Then you'd have overpopulation when you only have enough for a quarter of the population.

Hey pick your character class. Enjoy such original ideas as

>Fast guy with low health
>Slow guy with high health
>Average everything guy

>>386198593
true enough. I suppose you are right.

>>386198364
it's strange that as crazy as mad max gets the actual reasons behind the collapse are relativey realistic e.g. lack of resources, economy collapsing, infrastructure breaking down etc

>>386198189
>>386198206
its only one click away. wont you at least think of please returning to /pol/? pretty please?

>>386198223
What's worst is that they took the unskippable cutscenes and plastered it to every modern game.

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>>386197235
>evil path is inconvenient and gives you worse upgrades

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>>386195738
>game starts with the protaginst in a dangerous situation and the 1st missions ends with the protaginist in a situation of almost certain death I.E. jumps out of a building on a 3+ floor, or gets pushed to the ground with a gun pointed as his head
>time rewinds and every level up until the final mission is just reliving what happened before that leads up to the situation in the first level

i hate this story structure so much it was shit when battlefield 3 did it and it was even more shit when the order 1886 did it

>>386198681
nigger

>Medieval RPG
>Giant Spider boss

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>Main villain wasn't a villain all along, he was just trying to fight an even bigger evil

>>386197237
That was part of Winston's brain washing though. The actual party motives were explained in Goldstein's book, and were accurate. Winston was basically told this so he'd just fuckin lose it. Which we know he does because by the end of the book he's a sniveling alcoholic mess awaiting his quick death at the hands of the party.

>>386197067
are pirates becoming the new zombies?

>>386198617
You forgot
>Girl with high intellect
>High health guy with low intellect

>>386198743
First Level of fantasy game
>Giant Rats/Spiders

>>386198206
Maybe you should try that fag lord.

>>386197235
>good path gives you a lot of bonuses and makes sense with the story
>evil path gives you almost nothing and a lot of negative effects
Why even put an evil choice then, Red Dead Redemption?

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>fighting random battles makes the game harder

>futuristic/hi-tech area in game
>everything is sleek and white like it was designed by fucking Apple

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Surprised no one has mentioned this yet.

>amnesia as an easy cop-out for the player's self-insertion

>>386199183
name 1 game that does this exact thing

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>How do I know I can trust you?
>You don't.

>>386198039
Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead. It's the dwarf fortress of zombie apocalypse games.

>>386199245
Fallout 4
It's why I nuked the Institute, get that shit out of my post-apocalyptic setting

>>386198681
What about people criticizing lazy writing makes you think /pol/?

>>386198841
What were their motivations in Goldstein's book?

>>386199001
For when you play as Jack Marston, unfortunately you still can't join any of the gangs as Jack so you have no reason to play as worst Marston.

>>386198841
Goldstein's book is just another piece of propaganda by the Party, anon.

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Overpopulation isn't simply that there are too many humans to house and feed. The mouse paradise experiment showed that populations start getting fucked up far below carrying capacity.

Overpopulation is that there are simply too many people to give an adequate amount of luxuries to. Compare China and India to the UK. The UK has lower GDP, but because they aren't overpopulated, they have a much higher standard of living. That's why letting in people into Western countries at this point is counter-productive. If standards of living are to go up, population must go down.

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>>386195738
>Post apocalyptic world
>Now medieval
>"Magic" is actually nano-bots doing
>The gods are actually computers generating holograms
>Other mutated humanoid races are actually mutated humans due to radiation
>New animal species like dragons are man made from experiments

>>386195858
>The amount of pollution you would need to create an apocalypse seems impossible.
Depends on the kind of pollution.
If you were to release enough IR-opaque pollutants (CO2, methane,etc) you could cause the Earth's temperature to rise.
Now that on itself is quite a slow method to cause a apocalypse...
Until you realize there are (estimatedly) millions of cubic MILES of methane trapped in clathrate (pretty much a ice "cage" for the gas) underneath the oceans (and some cold lakes)
Methane clathrate is fairly stable by itself, but if the pressure drops or the temperature rises too much the methane will "boil" from the ice lattice.
Remember how methane is a greenhouse gas? Well, if the process starts it will be pretty difficult to stop it, temperature rise cause methane to evaporate into the atmosphere thus causing a stronger greenhouse effect that in turn increases the temperature causing more methane to be released.
You can see where it's going

>>386199245
Remember me
343 halo
Almost every new future game really.

>>386199210
>amnesia is one of the critical plot points

Though when I had friends and played DnD, I did make a dwarf cleric who worshiped the gnome god due to amnesia, all so that I could have access to a more versatile spell list.

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>YOU DARE TO ATTACK ME? MEN CANNOT HURT ME
>*Removes helmet* im not a man
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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>Get mad and betray the last remaining humans because they didn't do enough to stop their exterminator from killing them
FUCKING
WEW

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>some retard group worships medieval weaponry and only use melee weapons
>can't gun them down, have to fight with a melee weapon yourself

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>>386195738
I like the pollution one.
pic related

>>386199338
does it have the graphics of dwarf fortress, because i'm no graphics whore but i can't deal with little symbols being characters and environments

>>386200040
You can install tilesets

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>The protagonist's primary weapon is a sword

>>386200110
thank god. got any good ones?

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>>386199780
The world ends not with a shout or a whimper but with a BRAP

>>386200110
ah i see, reminds me a bit of space station 13

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>>386200175
>Protagonist's main weapon is a gunsword

>guy uses axe
>he's big and dumb

>>386197296
haha yeah fuck complexity

>>386197235
Most games never do this though...

>>386200345
That's not complex

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>>386200429
then you havent played enough of them

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>>386200297
>axe guy detected

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>>386200282
Better than yet another sword.

Even better
>Protagonist or the redheaded girl use fire as their main element

>>386197020
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/IfYouKillHimYouWillBeJustLikeHim

>>386200584
Name fives (5) games taking the evil path is more rewarding in the long run.

I would be surprised if you even make it to three (3) games

>>386199380
Because it secures him (you)'s

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>martials level linearly
>magicians level quadratically
>there is literally no reason to play a martial class at all
>also no reason to specialize as a thief because you can use magic to unlock chests

>>386200675
undertale

>>386195937
Is literally happening, you are just too retarded to notice.

"my power works because you're alive"

Basically power of friendship.

>>386198223
I agree.
But we can go further, what about both logs and scripted cutscenes?
I'm looking at you Bioshock Infinite.

>>386195738
>character was really good at video games so now he's good at x

>>386200429
Fallout 4 does

>>386198039
The Forest

>>386200716
Risen?

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>game can never do anything silly/cool without lampshading it and being super ironic on every occasion

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>>386200675
Undertale
Infamous
Fallout new vegas
Metal gear solid V
Darkwatch
Army of Two the 40th day

your move

>>386199647
What games?

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>>386198082
>the only "neutral" option between "pure kitten-saving good" and "abominable baby-raping evil" is snarky comic relief shitposting

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>>386198082
somehow only Kiryu from the yakuza series was able to do it well

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> main characters sister is tired of being a weaker knight than main character
> sister is tempted by antagonist to join his side
> in return sister gains extreme evil power
> main character beats sister in the final boss fight
> she comes to her senss and realizes she was wrong
> mfw

guess the game

>>386201076
Might and Magic

>386198102(you)
this meme again

>>386201171
>dem Alison Brie nudes
W E W

>>386195738
Name five games.

>>386202001
Demon souls, Dark souls, Dark souls 2, Dark souls 3, Bloodborne.

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>>386199647
>>386201076

>>386197941
I actually like this desu, when it turns out you were just an idiot and the antagonist was in the right

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>>386200927
>Fallout 4
>evil path

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>>386198752
Fuck you these are great.

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>dude was good and pious guy but he read some random shit and became lord of destroyer

>>386199210
>Amnesia as an easy cop-out to explain a character's stats being reset to zero at the start of the sequel

>>386198752
I mean it was good in Xenoblade

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>>386199054
>raise the difficulty setting
>increased exp gain makes the game easier

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>>386202530
> 2x enemy difficulty
> 4x exp gain
> 10x brouzouf gain

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>>386200175
You do realize sword and board is pretty much symbolic with heroism right? For the same reason the main bad guy tends to be a spellcaster of sorts.

The sword and shield are tools to defend the weak, a common blade isn't hard to get ahold of, anyone can pick it up and swing. To master them requires dedication, time, and incredible amount of experience (sometimes literally).

The antithesis to this would be vast magical power obtained by illegitimate means. Typically by whatever plot device or bullshit. It is innate, overwhelming and requires little to no practice.

That said I'm not disagreeing with you, it's done to death. I'm upset there aren't many lancers in the MC role, which a spear is similar to a sword in many of the regards I listed. But how else would you go about this? Aside giving the player a few classes/sub lasses to choose from? The sword as a starting weapon is quintessential at this point.

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>>386203048
> DOG

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Faggot ass Janny kys

>>386201328
It's not a trope if you can only name one game.

>>386202306
Nuka-World DLC. But it pretty much forces you to be evil; otherwise you're a complete retard who wasted his money.

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>>386202407
>Church is evil
I am so tired of this.
So fucking tired.
Why is it always them?

>>386203597
I'm not religious or anything but I'm a fan of the holy knight trope whether they're seen as good or bad. Bashing in the heads of heretics and shouting in the name of a god sounds like fun.

>>386203597
>>386203597
church IS evil. same with all religion. it has next to nothing to do with spirituality.

>>386197067
fuck you I love this

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>>386203597
Centuries of Protestants and more recently Atheists reeing at Catholicism, especially about 'muh dark ages'. But to be completely fair, a sprawling hierarchy with tons of power and a great aesthetic makes for a good villain.

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>race between antagonist and you for item(s)
>antagonist goes about it lawfully
>you kill all his soldiers
>you both meet at item(s) at the same time
>you kill him
>you are good guy somehow

>>386204571
*Tips fedora*

>>386195863
>and your other gun
> and your gun badge

>>386202306
You can join the Railroad retard. An entire faction dedicated to being evil

>slaughter your way through armies to reach some douche
>don't kill him for whatever reason
I get that from a narrative perspective only people with unique models/portraits matter, but come on.

>>386203405
hahahaahahhahaha

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>>386204830
/pol/ shitposting isn't an answer.

>>386201076
Numenara

>>386205760
I'm black and I hate the Railroad, Brotherhood of Steel for life.

>>386204830
The railroad always seemed weird to me. Wiping the synths minds and setting them up somewhere else isn't saving them, it's essentially erasing the person they were, and programming an entirely new person.

>>386208320
They're not people anyways so who cares.

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>>386207743
What the fuck does being a black guy have to do with liking the railroad?

>>386195738
I'd love for a sort dystopian future after another Great Depression which led to civil revolutions across various world powers. Playing in a dystopian U.S.A that has Balkanized into several different countries and city states could be pretty neat if done right. And you don't have nuke everything either.

>>386208498
Hell if I know, he called the other guy /pol/ for not liking the Railroad. I thought it had something to do with their association with the Underground Railroad.

>>386208729
o i see.

Nah, they just help the robot people. The name may have been inspired by the underground railroad though.

>>386208892
Yeah, I know. I think they're garbage because they put the lives of robots above actual people.

>>386200595
where's the funny plot twist

>>386208320
Never thought about that. i would ask if it was acknowledged anywhere in the game, but judging by the fact that it's a modern bethsoft game, i would expect the answer to be no.

>>386207743
>>386208320
>>386208498
>>386208892
>>386209018
Not liking something =/= calling it evil.

>>386209234
The only person who said they were evil was >>386204830 I just think they're retarded.

>>386204721
Sounds like the entire uncharted series to me

>>386209234
Is evil a magnitude? Can you say objectively that something is evil and measure how evil it is?

>>386197102
Isn't that usually the point of "ends justifies the means" villains? Yeah there's a few with actual compelling/reasonable/sane arguments for what they do, but the vast majority of villains that fall under that umbrella are generally nuts.

>>386209360
>>386209445
I mean it's one thing to say the Railroad are retarded and as such end up doing accidentally evil things. That's a rational thing to say. Saying they're literally dedicated to being evil is just /pol/-tier moral relativism.

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>>386209092
Homosexuality is sinful in the eyes of God.

>>386208595
You just described DX:Invisible War.

>>386209154
Yeah, in the base game I don't think anyone acknowledges it, which seems kind of dumb. I think in far harbour someone brings it up. No one really seems to talk about the whole mind erasing thing, just "synths aren't people" and "railroad is sjws"

>>386200798
>not realizing that old people will eventually die

fuck off retard

>>386198065
>Have to get 100% to get the true end
Fucking
Final
Fantasy
x-2

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>It was the humans who caused all this

>>386200595
tfw i have an amazing and loving relationship with both my parents and I still wanna hold other men's hands and take them on dates

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>>386195738
>character is clearly evil, might be put into the position where the protagonist can kill them but then
>n-no, if I kill them I'll be a bad guy!!! maybe they can change???
>evil character proceeds to kill more people and tries to destroy the world

>>386195738
>it was caused by the ocean levels rising

Untrained rookie character suddenly gets catpulted into position of power that they weren't trained for . ie: mass effect andromeda

>>386197464
what is sonic generations

>>386208595
>Balkanized into several different countries and city states
what is Crimson Skies

>>386198082
>marvel heroes

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>commander/father figure turns on you at the last minute
>they were working for the villain the whole time
>they didn't think of just killing you right from the start and instead let you destroy 95% of their resources before intervening

>rivals
>rival team up

>>386201315
Weeb shit

>>386200798
This, millennials don't want kids.

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>sewers

making me play against bots until a certain level. I fucking understood the game with the tutorial dont now make me shit stomp useless ass bots

>>386201054
>Infamous
holy shit this was so annoying to me, my good playthrough was so much harder because of how shit the abilities were in comparison and lets not forget I didnt even get to kill anybody

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>>386216114
>100% to get the true end
>which requires talking to NPCs and giving them certain answers, which helps fill the percentage complete
>no way of knowing if you got it right or not since it counts more as "0.2% complete" or so and completion percentage is a whole number

>>386195738
>Fantasy/Medieval setting
>Tons of anachronisms everywhere.

>>386197235
>Evil path is filled with randumb psychopath actions
>Neutral is being a bipolar fuck who does evil simply to lower his good guy meter

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>some unique looking character runs by, a party member sees them
>Wait... is that-
>What is it, party member san?
>No, it's nothing

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>>386202969
Axes and other tools were just as common, if not more so, back then. It surprises me we don't really get that many axe wielders to begin with. I think it's mostly Japanese games too that have such a boner for swords, so I'm not surprised people are tired of seeing that same trope nowadays.

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>>386195738
>creatures or mutations were manifestation of the person's inner demons

>evil route
>can kill millions of people
>rape and bigotry are OVER THE LINE though

>>386195738
>bandits/raiders that only value strength
>lead by a woman
>>386198082
>>386203597
>>386204872
>>386221623
these

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>>386195738
>be some regular nobody from bumfuck nowhere
>go on an arduous adventure across the land and succeed despite your humble origins
>ACKSHUALLY you were a long-lost descendant of the super special snowflake god-like race the entire time, that's why you're strong :)

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>actual final boss is just some random giant monster for no real reason

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>have strange looking party members
>no one seems to mind, everyone acts like it's completely normal

Could at least one person in Kingdom Hearts be weirded out by Donald or Goofy please? I feel like only Jack Sparrow in his introduction reacted to them as if they looked odd, but it feels like everyone just kind of accepts it. At least let the denizens of Tarzan's world/Peter Pan's world, or anything with moslty humans find it strange.

>>386220932
>white liberal milennials don't want kids
FIFY

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>game is a timeloop

>kills hundred of enemy warriors and fauna throughout playthrough
>tries to shame villain for killing enemy warriors

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>>386195738
What games have an apocalypse caused by pollution?
Honest question, I can't think of anything. It's pretty much always just nuclear.

>main characters seemingly have the combat abilities to kill creatures that have killed dozens of men before them
>zero explanation or context for how the main characters became so much stronger than the average human

>>386221934
>the good ol' "You were part of some ancient prophecy/grand design/destiny" plot
every time. Bonus points if
>Your main antagonist/rival was also a part of the same race
>it becomes a battle of ideals to keep them from fucking up the entire world

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>>386195738
>devs think that only one aspect of the game (be it a game-mechanic, or a personality of one character) was important and nothing else mattered in the game, so future installments of the series cut out what together made the original game great
>sometimes it outright killed the franchise for good

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>character requests they get a party together to walk outside the town because there's dangerous monsters around the area
>oh no look, it's a generic slime monster
>obligatory tutorial fight
>whack it once with the character that was afraid of it, it dies in one hit

>>386195738
>Open world zombie game
>Guns are end game and ammo is more sparse than a pretty girl on tumblr

Fuck Dead Island and fuck Dying Light

>>386222546
Sonic?

>>386196336
the fucking division did this

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>Skills that contribute nothing to your combat ability raise your level
>enemies scale with your level

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>>386223165
>unique weapon is weaker if obtained early on rather then later

>>386198593
The Mad Max scenario.

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>Racing game
>Every car handles like shit
>90% of races are drag strips

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>villain and hero team up to fight the true evil
>hero just nicely forgets all the heinous deeds the villain did prior to this and doesn't even put him in jail

>villain kills his own henchmen to appear intimidating
Roll my eyes out of my skull every fucking time.

>>386220932
That's why they are importing millions of shitskins, duh.

>>386200645
I love it when this retarded trope is shit on.

>>386216310

That's because your uncle molested you.

>>386196740
Name four games that do that.

>>386198669
Yeah but even they eventually went with the nuke story by thunderdome.

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>>386195738

>The main villan is the protag's father
>You have to fight and / or killing him in order to win the game / finish the story

>Either that or that ONE character you couldn't save because fuck you

>>386195738
>post-apocalyptic world
>whites are less than 10% of the population, most countries are overrun by low IQ population, driving crimes up

Yet this is the world we live in.

>>386196336
I don't tend to have a problem with this as long as the audio log placement makes sense. Audio log next to corpse, aka person recording it; audio log from whoever was in that room, etc. My biggest issue with that is that you never know if you should stay put, stare at the wall and listen to it or if you move on you'll encounter an enemy or plot point so now you can't hear the log because your focusing on the combat or worse, audio log doesn't stop when plot point is happening and someone's talking. They should add a fucking stop button or something.
Having to listen to everything from the beginning because you missed one bit is exhausting.

>>386223338
Oblivion had this pretty bad. Then again, it also had the opposite problem. If I recall correctly, there was no legit way to cast the highest leveled Fingers of the Mountain spells because they cost too much magic to cast.

>>386195738
Frog posts on /v/ is a trope I hate a lot.

>>386196751
>"Okay."
>shoots badguy in the face
>ending credits to a montage of the hero petting kittens and helping nuns across the street

>>386198029
China and India contribute more to overpopulation and pollution than any other country in the world. Why is the US the only one being attacked for it?

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>>386198538
Although, it was kinda funny how they fucked with you in the original Saints Row where you think your guy is mute, but he ends up saying like one witty sentence during the last faction-specific missions.

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>>386195738
>villain was just trying to stop a greater evil from killing literally everyone
>you defeat him anyways and now you have to deal with said greater evil
>you're only options to do this are either be worse than the original villain, be good but doom everyone in the process, or be good and grind a bajillion dollars to avoid dooming everyone

>>386224449
Fable 3 right?

>>386216717
What I dislike the most about this shit is that it's a simplification of a better trope where the villain was once a friend to the main character and their conflict came with not wanting to believe their friend became evil.
It became telephone-gamed hard by the industry and split between "oh they aren't even they were mind controlled all along by the real evil!" or "it's just some guy we can't commit a murder!"

Gotta dumb down entertainment for the cattle, goy.

>>386197823
>Look in preacher podium
>find book about lying

It happened more than once in Fallout 3, really pissed me off at the sheer fedora of it and I'm not especially religious.

>>386200620
https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=3381033

>>386220932
>>386213935
>Overpopulation is about the west
Dumb goys, when people bring up overpopulation meme they're only talking about shitskins.
Whites only make up some 10% of the worlds population. Keep checking your privilege though.

>>386199210
The only game I've seen that handled Amnesia well was NV. Because in that you could choose to be as amnesiac as you liked.

For example, if an NPC was talking about Caesar's Legion you usually got three dialogue options like
>I met the Legion before, for I have had a life outside of the intro cut scene.
>Refresh my memory plz.
>NEVER HEARD OF THEM BEFORE ALSO TELL ME ABOUT THE ENN SEE ARR WHOEVER THEY ARE AS WELL
>Hate newspaper.

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>>386195738
yeah bro pollution could never destroy the planet haha

>>386221934
Fucking Diablo 3.
The 'chosen one' trope is my personal most-hated of all time.
Like, if I'm the fucking 'chosen one' then what's the point of the adventure or story in the first place? You literally told me at the beginning that I'm already going to win, so what's the struggle/dilemma? Whatever fucking happened to 'heroes aren't born, they're made'? When you make the main dude the 'hero' before the adventure even starts, then there's no fucking point to the entire adventure.

>>386199210
I liked the way they pulled it off in Baten Kaitos.

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>>386202530
>Raise the difficulty setting
>Enemies get easier to kill
>So do you

>>386225282
>green is projected methane concentration - not recorded

>>386222202
>recruit a new party member.
>they're the last survivor of an extinct/nearly extinct race.
>everyone in town/city treats them like any other random human and this plot point is never brought up again.

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>>386225460
yeah GHG are not going up, nothing to see here

>>386225580
>I'll throw more graphs at him that'll show him

>>386222845
I wanted to like dead island, I really did.
But holy fuck that game is the definition of 'combat is a chore'.

>>386221414
Fallout 3

>>386223338
>unique weapon with special model and fancy sparkly shit.
>is weaker than the generic weapon bought from stores/found off enemies.

>>386225510
>until the moment where you gain everyone's trust
>then they realize the party member was part of some folklorish evil race that almost destroyed them
>it's the liar revealed as if you tried to hide it
>spend the rest however long it takes to prove that if you wanted to kill them, you would've done it already

>>386198538
>mute protagonist starts talking in the opening cutscene of the sequel

>>386225652
nice rebuttal haha owned

>>386225652
>facts don't matter if they're liberal ones

>Combat has buffs and debuffs
>You can easily spam accuracy debuff and win almost every fight

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>>386198538
>game points out how weird a main character that never talks actually is

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>>386226120
Obligatory

>>386226451
>fog breath
>debilitate
Good ol' nocturne

>>386196751
>leaf leader believes that bullshit

>>386221934
Good post
The "chosen one" bullshit is rarely done well and has no purpose at all,it's a cop out for writers who don't know how to write so they just go "because ur the chosen one :))))"

>open world
>no reason for the game being open world

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>Game starts and gives you good looking and fitting armor and weapons
>5 minutes later you find rags and chipped weapons which are better

>Hot-headed/rude character with red hair
>give them fire powers

>someone lays out the perfect path for wherever major city you need to go
>know that either something is going go get thrown at you, or need to take a major detour

>>386195738
>playing video games for the story

>>386197437
The last one isn't so bad.

>wandering around nature to find anything
>all the surrounding fauna join forces to fuck up your day
>some of them are prey to each other
>you

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Okay why is a villain being after power/money/fame considered bad by people? Most terrible people in real life only wanted those those things so why is it "generic" for a fictional villain to be that way?

>>386228289
We don't like to be reminded of reality or real evil people so we don't want actual jews in our vidya as well.

>>386228289
It often, but not always, leads to a less interesting narrative.

>post-nuclear apocalypse world
>200 years after the bombs dropped everything is still a mess and everyone lives underground

>you are the chosen one

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>>386227408
>open world
>there's no hidden treasures or exciting new places to find

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>>386228289
Because the protagonist could just as easily be after those same things.

Lots of people pursue money/power/fame IRL, but so long as they abstain from aggressive violence, these efforts usually contribute to the common good.

Or if you'd prefer, these are things most people pursue themselves, so they find it difficult to imagine m/p/f being the sole determinant of morality.

>>386228289
There's nothing wrong with it
it's just pretentious assholes who hate villians who think that every villian needs to be an extremist with a "noble cause" and not just a douchebag

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>villain hates humanity andcwants to destroy it
>find out why
>one shitty thing happened to them

>>386228656
>>there's no hidden treasures
>if there are, they're recycled or randomized like an MMO
Souls and Pokemon are the only ones that do it well.

>small tree/rock blocks path
>instead of climbing over it have to choose alternate path

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>>386228773
>The game treats it as super legitmate and curses humanity and tries to make him appear somewhat sympathetic and understandable because someone pissed in his cornflakes once 25 years ago

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>main character suddenly betrays you
>reason is "I'll be more safe on villain's side" or even "villain's goal suddenly appeals to me more now"

>>386228859
>play risen
>fucking around in an inn
>get on a hair-thin ledge outside on a 2nd story window
>work my way around what is obviously a developer oversight
>find a bow that wrecks shit for more than half the game

Sucks the first one was the only good one in the series.

>>386201054
>New Vegas
>evil path

Wasn't the entire point of that game to prove morality is retarded because every faction has good and bad aspects and that humanity will persevere no matter who you supported? Every ending was the same shit, just different shades of shit.

>developer was forced to rush the game out by the publisher
:^)

>>386229025
name me 1 (one) (uno) (ett) game that does this. Can you be the one who pisses into the cornflakes?

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>start game at max power/level
>immediately lose everything and have to start from scratch

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>>386229114
No. That wasn't the point of the game at all. Like, not even a little. I'm a little interested in how you came to that conclusion. There's three main factions in the game that fit nicely into "good", "bad", and "neutral".

The thesis of the game is known to be the futility of building a new world in the image of the old one. Our boy JES confirmed.

>>386222845

Haven't played dead island, but in dying light you literally invade a compound full of dudes with rifles like a third of the way through, never wanted for ammo or weapons after that, continued to never need them.

>>386201315
>sister
>knight

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>>386197525

Personally I hate the "ancient evil" or "super advanced past civilization that fucked itself over" cliche. Like, why can't we have a contemporary evil, why can't we ever come up with our own solutions without having some ancient dues-ex-machina.

>>386196751
>guy who says that ends up killing people

>>386208595
That happens in kaiserreich

>>386222575
Same with any game that has you fighting other people

"Lol your random everyman player character is able to gun down hundreds of enemy soldiers/goons/police somehow without a scratch"

>>386195738
>>386195858
>>386195937
/pol/ is so unbelievably retarded. I mean, you're literally so stupid that people like you pose a threat to humanity.

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>>386195738
>RPG has long dialogues and text-dumps on the beginning instead of introducing world during your journey.
I want to play fucking cool game, not wait two hours for first fight.

>>386198082
Fucking netflix Castlevania.

>>386236191
Why do you fags always overuse the word 'literally'

>>386236723
Literally kill yourself

>>386202530

>Raise the difficulty to the highest
>the game become easier, because I spend time to minimax my stats, and plan strategy before entering a fight

>>386202530
>raising the difficulty only increases the amount of enemies

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>cutscene with villain
>kills one of his henchmen for no reason just so you can see just how bad and evil he is
made especially worse if his second in command tells him that he shouldn't have done it, to which the villain responds "shut up, I'm in charge, not you"

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>The villain that has been built up all game turns out to be nothing
>The final boss is a random monster/person out of nowhere

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>>386195738
>Escort/protect the item/person mission
>mission is hard as fuck
>item/person still dies after you successfully complete it
pic related

>>386228289
It makes a weak and kinda weird narrative because, in video games as a medium, at least two of those are the goal of the player themselves

>>386198752
>Villain does everything he can to act like an asshole and not explain why he's doing all this shit
>Right before he dies he reveals that there's someone worst than him
Fuck you Fable 3

>Game has moral choices
>Can't explain why you're doing what you're doing if you're doing "bad" actions in order to do "good" later on

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>>386195738
>play as an unlikeable, unrelateable MC
>decides to save one person and pisses off players' who wanted to save the world at the end