Let's try some word association. First word: Deus Ex thread

FEMA

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Stick with the prod.

Have you done a melee only run yet /v/?

WHO ARE YOU?

I AIN'T GOING BACK TO JAIL

Senator

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Post your favorite Deus Ex song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzvw8uSWucM

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>>386186515
Unironically the main theme

>>386185769
Your appointment to FEMA should be finalized within the week, I've already discussed the matter with the senator.

>>386186970
OH YES

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>>386186796
Main theme from Deus Ex or Human Revolution? Both are pretty good.

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>>386187013
Original DX

>>386186515
>>386186796
is it just me or many of deus ex's songs follow a similar tune? I dont know how to explain it, but do you guys get the idea?
also posting my favorite song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUR7fdg6n3s

>>386185945
A non lethal takedown is always the most silent takedown

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Fascist

>>386186515
Swerve for a true patrician's taste. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4m-zvVucfV4

>>386187381
Like a leitmotif? Yeah, absolutely.

>>386185769
Why aren't there more games like this game?

>>386186515
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcxrsaT2nAQ

>>386188607
I think it might be because most developers are afraid of putting political commentary in their games, and for good reason.

>>386188607
What are you talking about, specifically?

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>>386188607
Thief I and II
System Shock 2
Arx Fatalis
Dark Messiah
Dishonored 1 and 2
Prey
Ultima Underworld

>>386188819
The gameplay, like scavenging for tools for your break in to the secret facility, finding hidden items to help you later in the game, and traveling from hub world to hub world.

>>386188607
It requires competent writers and good level design, both are rare and devs aren't brave enough these days to take risks.

>>386188607
they're tricky to make
and modern graphics and stuff mean things are expensive and take time
plus there's tried and tested formulas that work, whereas something like deus ex is a bit more niche. a lot of developers and publishers will see it as too risky to make

I mean let's think about deus ex
you've got lore, conversations, tidbits of world building, flags, triggers, game mechanics, infolinks, inventory systems, logs of all the information you've received, items kept around the world, look systems, good level design, good music, good use of sound effects

it's a lot to think about

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>>386186515

These are my absolute favorites.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kt-H7qUr58
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUR7fdg6n3s

>>386188934
>Dishonored 1 and 2
no
>Dark Messiah
>Prey
good games but no

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>>386185769
You're in the club win THIS thing starts beeping at your GF
What do you do?

>>386188934
Yea I've been getting into these simulationist old fps games recently, thanks for the list. I've not played any of those.

>>386187164
C'mon, can't be the only one that loves this main theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCk8ByyCsks
CAN YOU GET MORE HYPE THAN THIS
You know you're in for some great shit

>>386188607
Why aren't there more men like Jesus?

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Wait a minute... this isn't right...

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>>386189145
>First person games with high levels of agency and light RPG elements
>Not like Deus Ex
I guess Dark Messiah is a bit of a stretch but the rest fit the same design philosophy to a T.

Unatco?

>>386186515
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8S2LV7hD7w
Short, but gold.

>>386187381
This was also great.

>>386189189
Get gibbed instantly with half of the club.

>>386186515
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gT_fZHnpag

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>>386189210
Try out The Dark Project next, it's a first person stealth game but has phenomenal non linear level design and similar to Deus Ex you'll never encounter a dead end in the levels as long as you're smart enough since you can use all the tools given to you to be pretty creative. The second one improved on a lot of issues people had with the first but The Dark Project is one of the earliest games that can fit the immersive sim description, Ultima Underworld was earlier but might be a bit too dated for people now a days.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaVUJpCl-Yc

love this one

Did anyone actually play the multiplayer?
Was it any good?

How is E.Y.E compared to Deus Ex? Still haven't played it, only seen bits but they seem kinda similar

>>386189315
It's all in the writing and presentation, not just the gameplay itself
The interactions, world and characters made Deus Ex what it was

>>386188607
a product of the 90s, the wild west of 3d video games
the video games industry is currently stuck in a rut and doesn't really want to try anything new
all you have is reiterations of the same old tried and tested ideas

>>386189246
Something about that era's soundtracks just really hits me in the feels.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s8DBkCPdY0

>>386189651

I agree with this.

Deus Ex is undeniably silly in places, but the writing and subject matter elevate it above most games, especially since it tackles issues that are still relevant today, maybe even moreso than when it came out.

Post shit that you never knew about the game until recently.

Here's mine: there's a hidden medbot in the Liberty Island level hidden within a shipping container

>>386188934
Stop comparing SS2 to Deus Ex. This is the most idiotic comparison, and I see it all the time. SS2 does not have roleplaying, SS2 does not have roleplaying decisions, SS2 does not even have dialogue outside of the ending. Bioshock is never considered an RPG, but for some retarded reason everyone considers SS2 to be, even though Bioshock has more roleplaying elements than SS2.

>>386189705
Hell yeah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iXfWWrwrlQ

>>386189589
i managed to get it working with a buddy last year, it was pretty barebones but fun, we found an old map with a bunch of rpg-like stuff like jobs and side quests, shit you'd find in a warcraft 3 map

>>386189865
That you can save Paul.

who here blasted agent navarre with a PS20 the first chance they got?

>>386189970
I had it the other way around, I didn't know Paul could die because I always tried to take out as many of them as possible

>>386189970
Holy shit nigga thanks. I'm on a new playthrough and I just stopped playing right before I reached this part

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>>386190053
This is what I like about Deus Ex, I remember watching an interview with Spector and he said that he likes when developers make content that not everyone will see because it encourages more discussion about the game and encourages more play throughs.

Another thing that I didn't know for a while was you can go into the cell where Simons interrogates the NSF soldier and talk to the soldier himself.

>>386190308
how the fuck do you do that?
Also are you supposed to fight navarre on the plane or later?

>>386189865

That you could save Smuggler

>>386189638
E.Y.E far more entirely conceptual in its ideas and the gameplay is only tangentially similar really, it plays more fluidly.
E.Y.E also leans more heavily towards FPS but gameplay options in terms of combat are still varied and you can do a lot of creative fun shit with it.
Don't go in expecting Deus Ex but rather a child of Deus Ex's legacy.

>>386190391
How? And to what benefit?
And can you get to him the first time you visit hell's kitchen?

>>386190382
>how the fuck do you do that?
Just beat Simons to the cell, he moves pretty slow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLvbh07tUl4

>>386190382
You can fight her either on the plane or after, when you're running from UNATCO.
I usually set a LAM for her on the wall of the plane and she trips it as she runs into the room.

>>386189638
It's a fun shooter with a weird tory and a shitload of level up systems
It's not anything like a classic cRPG focused on writing

>>386190382
>Also are you supposed to fight navarre on the plane or later?
whenever. you can kill her on the plane. you can kill her in battery park after the apartment raid or you can kill her at the end of the Unatco Escape

>>386190572
Ah, I heard someone talking about a bossfight with her and I had just blown her away with the plasma thingy.

>>386190308
>interrupt Simon's interrogation
>the UNATCO troopers talk about how they won't tell Manderley
>twenty hours later, I'm at the Ocean Lab
>Simons brings up how I interrupted it during his pre-battle dialogue

Deus Ex is glorious. The dialogue is so varied depending on how you play, and to carry that event on for basically the entire game feels fantastic. I can't really think of any other games where your decisions constantly introduce new little events.

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>>386186515
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPDvkgKWGfc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7md_gd3HuMQ

>>386190506
The second time you go to Hell's Kitchen you can tip him off that UNATCO is hounding you.

Also yeah, you can get to him the first time you get to Hell's Kitchen.

Does anyone in mankind divided tell you off for going into the ladies restroom?

>>386185769
well I guess its time to reinstall. I think at this point I will just leave it installed permanently.

>>386190734
>I can't really think of any other games where your decisions constantly introduce new little events.
In terms of things like that I'd have to say Troika's Arcanum is the best at that. You can kill anyone in the game and still not enter a fail mode where you straight up cannot beat the game. I was replaying it last month and I picked up a newspaper article in one town and was able to use that information in a side quest in a completely different town all through speech with the person.

It's a straight up isometric cRPG so it plays nothing like Deus Ex but if you like insane attention to detail, world building and non linear progression it's worth a shot. In terms of pure roleplaying, no game has ever come close to it.

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Is this a JoJo reference

>>386190828
How?

>>386190382
it can be done later but if you're a real bad dude you can make someone open the door and bolt out before she talks to you

>>386190828
>Also yeah, you can get to him the first time you get to Hell's Kitchen.
Are people not aware of that? Sandra tells you his password when you get ride of her pimp. Or you can sneak in though the crates near the basketball court.

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>>386188748
good taste

>>386190995
Getting his password from the hooker being harassed or lockpicking / blowing up the back entrance

>>386190995

How to get to Smuggler?

Sandra tells you the password.

>>386191028
>bug past Anna Navarre
>when you see Gunther in the Cathedral, he doesn't even mention Anna, just says how he wants to kill you

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*blocks your path*

>>386191113
You can also sneak there using the secret entrance in the containers

>>386186515
I think this one is pretty underrated
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pDhCRfh43o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP0ZBxSKzMI

>>386189324
Savage

>>386191165
I never asked for this

>>386188527
I think I saw something... A guy in a coat.

>>386191095
>>386191113
I've helped her before but I guess you have to talk to her twice. All she's said to me is that she's looking for him.

>>386190778
Lauptan machine

>>386191165
I always carry a LAW around for these guys. One-shots them without fail.

>>386191246
U-unatco?

Why did MJ12 have a hidden sewer base under hells kitchen

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>>386191165
Nothing personal, kiddo.

>>386191232
>NYC Ambient 2
That felt different in a fucking good way, I love the part at 1.13. Hard to choose a favourite between all these gems.

>>386191404
No, Savage

>>386191442
Guess it's easier to infect the population when you live right under them

Why the fuck has no other game come close with those 80's-esque, hammy but self-aware hilarious one-liners.
I can't think of a more quotable game

>>386191442
Probably in preparation of the superfreighter bringing the virus to NYC.

What was JC's best one-liner?

>>386191615
I guess that'd make me one ugly son of a bitch.

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>>386185769

>>386191615
if i'm gonna kill you, you're already dead

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>>386191615
"You've got ten seconds to beat it before I add you to the list of NSF casualties" are my favorite

>>386191615
Versalife. Good. We're getting closer. You may as well tell me the rest. If I'm gonna kill you, you're already dead.

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>>386191615

>>386191615

Bravery is not a function of firepower.

>>386191165
*throw gun on the floor*

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>>386191615

>>386191615
>>386191759
This one is also my favourite.

We all agree that Hong Kong is the best level right?

I order you to stand in the spotlight and growl at women like a dog who needs a master.

>>386191615
You mechs may have copper wiring to reroute your fear of pain, but I've got nerves of steel

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>>386191759
and pic related are my favorite*
Of course, there is always THAT quote

>>386191615
"I will burn like the brightest star."
"You're gonna burn alright."

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>>386191851
>not the sub base

Cops...thats what the sonuvabitch uses in the operations against black people.

>>386191851
Yes

>>386191615
I'm not big into books

(I think he says this twice actually at two different parts of the game?)

>>386191851
You mispelled MJ12 escape, but don't worry, I know

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>>386191615
I am not big into books

>>386191851
Every single level on the way to (possibly) assassinate Lebedev in his 747 was pure gold. By far the best mission in the entire game.

>>386191615
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWdCqXzaHoU

There's too many

OH OH OH OH

YAAAARGH

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>>386191956
We're 100% black

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>>386191851
My favorite part was going through the majestic 12 labs and realizing where I was

>>386191960
yeah, when talking with the bartender at hong kong, and when talking to the girl dancing in the Paris club

>>386192063
Me too.

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>>386191615

A bomb's a bad choice for close range combat.

>>386191851
Yes, anon, Hong Kong is the best level.

what the hell were you thinking jc?

Two words: New York City.

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>>386191615
a bomb's a bad choice for close range combat

>>386192242
AGENT NAVARRE WAS
OUT
OF
LINE.

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>>386192046
>I'm like the russian who contracted his own virus
who?

>how are the drinks here
>great if you like rat piss
>never tried it

>>386191615
What a shame

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mStZna-4AE

Never forget

I speel my drink

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Jmanderley
Knight_killer

>>386192601
This is fucking horrible.
Just like /v/

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Last and First Men, by Olaf Stapledon. Have you not read?

I cannot believe you do not know this book!

>>386192680
ghermann
zeitgeist

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>The maintenance man actually did rig the machine to give Gunther lemon-lime

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I wanted orange! It gave me lemon lime!

>>386192703
I'm not big into books.

>>386192703
is the book actually good or the bartender was a pretentious faggot?

>>386192703
I've been told that it's a dense book.

>>386192680
Who knew Manderley was so edgy?

>>386192875
Probably alluding to the Templar gold later in the game

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Why don't people talk about these games? Were they bad?

>>386192875
I think it was actually his secretary that set up the new password

>>386191529
>>386191497
oh yeah
that makes a lot of sense

What a shame. He was a good man. What a rotten way to die.

>>386192097
How did they get bots there?

>>386193008
they were decent
dxhr was a fairly solid attempt, though it did become a zombie game towards the end
dxmd had a very nice open world with prague, but the side missions are somewhat linear and overall the game's fairly short
it's a shame really, because if the game had another hub or two of the same quality as prague it'd would be a 10/10 I think

Welcome to the coalition, PROD! I might as well start using coke.

>>386193008
No, they were good. But just like Invisible War, nowhere near original DX's league

>>386193008
they werent bad, they just never topped the original game, they were decent

>>386193092
Brought in components and assembled them on-site, probably.

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>>386186515
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jVZW_jDGbA
Fits the kind of areas you end up hearing it at very well

>>386185769

I'd love to see them port Deus Ex to Unreal Engine 4, but keep all the assets as it is. Just update the physics, and gameplay.

I know a place where we can touch aliens from another planet

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Rate my loadout

>>386193208
Just get GMDX for physics

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>>386193257
>Not sticking with the prod

>>386193185
Still bad considering they have to go through UNATCO wing.

>>386193257
GEP GUN

>>386193257
I like the plasma rifle.
But it is really not good

>>386193257
Needs more GEP gun

>>386193257
how the fuck do you have so many multiptools

>>386193208
GMDX does that as >>386193269 says

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>>386193257
>Plasma instead of flamethrower

>>386193257
>not inventory bugging every single item in the game into your inventory
>using the stealth pistol ever
>no lams, no EMPs, no gas grenades
>no soda, no candy bars, not even a stack of soy food
>only one biocell and two medkits
>using any environmental training gear ever

Garbage. I bet you chose EMP and energy shield too, you filthy doofus.

>>386193410
seconding this, teach me your secrets master

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>>386192046

>Sticks and stones.

This game man

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Rate my skills

>>386193257
>plasma rifle

BINNED

>>386186515

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF09vGckSAc

Shame the level takes like 5 minutes to beat.

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>>386193519
Do people actually play this game like a first person shooter instead of putting everything in lock picking and electronics?

>>386193654
Ill sneak around for a bit but I always lose by the end of a level and just shoot everyone

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I'm STARVING.

You have anything to eat?

>>386193519
You need another point in swimming to prevent the urge to kys yourself in the ocean labs.

>>386193519
>upgrading heavy past advanced
>upgrading low-tech when it already one hit kills everything
>didn't upgrade swimming once for the massive 3.75x swimming speed
>not a single point into lockpicking, even though lockpick usage is more common than multitool usage

Getting computer and electronics to trained were your only reasonable decisions.

>>386193654
my dad did back when he played it in 2000
he said the game had too much talking and not enough shooting

>>386193768
Get a job.

>>386193859
Well he's not wrong.

>>386193835
>>upgrading low-tech when it already one hit kills everything
>this baka-ass anon doesn't know about being able to destroy cameras and alarm panels with the Dragon's Tooth and high melee

>>386193008

HR is a great game but you can clearly see that they ran out of money/time at the end of the game. The whole story with Megan Reed kinda ended just like that, and she's not even in the sequel which just fucking sucks considering how vital she is to the story in the first game, I mean after all, 90% of the game is searching for her.

Mankind Divided is alright. A bit too short but the gameplay is fun. Shit optimization on PC though and there are so many annoying things in the game, like that fucking metro loading screen and overall jankiness of the dialogue. Also microtranscations for a singleplayer game. What the fuck is this bullshit?

>>386193835
I'm not him, but low-tech is useful for boosting the single-hit damage of the DTS to the point where you can use Combat Strength and Targeting to break anything that isn't invulnerable. Saves a lot of picks later on.

what the heck is frinkin doos echs u frickin fricks

>>386185769
I couldn't get past the shitty combat in the first mission. Wat do?

>>386194268
realize its a RPG not an FPS

>>386194268
Develop better taste maybe

>>386194268
Sneak and take targets out one by one with headshots. Unless you know what you're doing, going in head-on is almost impossible.

>>386194268
>Go to the right
>Climb up the boxes
>Go to the top
>Disarm the gas grenade
>Climb up to the top of the tower
>Interrogate the NSF leader

Also consider >>386194292 and >>386194293

>>386194268

Cheat yourself expert rifles and play it like a FPS.

>>386194175
>playing unpatched or non-GOTY

The dragon's tooth on the newest version is complete shit for destroying objects. It deals 5 x 20 damage, and only the 5 counts. So in effect, the crowbar is 20% better at destroying objects than the dragon's tooth is. The real top tier destroyer that isn't an explosive is the sniper rifle, sitting at 25 damage.

>>386193835
I upgraded it so the throwing knives would do one hit kill damage
You can run with heavy weapons on mastery
>>386193574
It's fun to shoot, maxing out heavy skills makes it more powerful

>>386194268
Deus Ex isn't an arcade shooter.
Sneak around, you can't really take on combat head on until mid-late game when you are kitted out with the Dragon Tooth, skills and augs.

Protip sneak to the back of the statue and climb up.

>>386194450
what about GEP GUN

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>>386191615
Well since that makes you my new boss, take a long look at Manderley's dead body. Consider that my resignation; I don't have time to write a letter.

>>386194450
I'm playing 1.112fm though

>>386193519
I'd usually have more points in Pistol (for tranq darts) because I'm autistic about not killing certain enemy types, and on my most recent playthrough I found that putting a point into Swimming is actually really nice. Otherwise looks solid.

>>386194408
>>386194551
Stop giving him tips. If you can't get past the first level of Deus Ex on your own you should hang yourself

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>>386194562

>>386194450
It's actually 5 hits of 20 damage.

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>>386194450
>mfw exclusively play on the out of the box vanilla version

>>386194378
>>386194551
didn't say anywhere I wasn't sneaking around

>>386191615
They're all fantastic, but "You're gonna burn alright" is one of the best.

>>386194750
You said "shitty combat" which implied you were fighting, not sneaking.

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So does this still remain the biggest casual filter in gaming?

>>386194981
Yes
>>386194268

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Coziest levels in the game? To me, I think Vandenburg is the best.

>>386194981
Yes nothing even comes close still to this day

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Does ANYONE like the Paris levels?

>>386194583
Never mind, I went and checked myself and realized I'm a retard. It does do less than the sniper, but went you factor in augs, the dtooth comes out way ahead.

>>386195180
yes

>>386195212
I don't believe you

>>386195180
I like the streets and the chateau, but other than that it's the worst part of the game.

>>386195276
>but other than that it's the worst part of the game.
I think we all know that would be Hell's Kitchen and Area 51.

>>386194201
Did you find your dog in the first game ?

>>386195180
Paris Streets was one of the best parts in the game. The Cathedral, Catwoman's Tower and the Catacombs were all garbage.

>>386192842
Stapledon isn't usually listed in the 'Big 3' of science fiction writers, but he is that important.

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>>386195318

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sjbc_xeXTLg
>"You and me JC. We'll rule the world in secret together, with an invisible hand. The way the Illuminati have always ruled."
I joined the illuminati

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INCORRECT INFORM- [STATIC] AA -attached.

No danger.

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>>386195359

>>386195318
>Hell's Kitchen
>Shit
It's practically the best level in the game you mong
Vandenberg and Liberty Island are the worst levels in the game and they arent even bad.

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>>386195467
>Not fusing yourself with Helios to rule in the best interests of the people

>>386195467
Helios is the only good ending.

>Illuminati
>you get to be the equivalent of Walton Simons to Everett
>Dark Age
>you get to be assassinated by the Illuminati for being dumb
>Helios
>be a god emperor that has control of everything, only way to stop the Illuminati from being assholes

>>386195583

So much bad shit happens to him it was comical

>>386195650
>literally downgrading yourself because a computer asked you to

>>386195537
His avatar is so spooky. You kind of want to think he has hair but you can sort of ignore it and his head looks disgusting and deformed.

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>>386195742
>downgrade
Explain to me how linking yourself with an AI to become a benevolent dictator on a global scale is a downgrade.

>>386195742
>downgrading

You don't understand. The Helios ending allows for infinite JC Dentons since you have access to universal constructors. This is why Bob Page went this route in the first place, it is basically god mode. Helios cannot really be stopped if he gets more than a few days of prep time.

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>>386195583

I beat this game for the first time last year and it has easily earned its way into my top 5 favorite games of all time

>>386195583
would be more fun if the Tyrants killed his dog so you could go John Wick mode for the rest of the game

the best weapon in the game is the pistol

>>386196039
Glock right?

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>>386196010
>top 5 favorite games of all time
What are the other 4?
Reminder if REmake or Super Metroid isn't in there it's trash.

So we all know about JC's great one-liners, but what are your favorite NPC lines?

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>>386195467

>>386196347
Two words: New York City.

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>>386196347

>>386196347
WHY CONTAIN IT

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>>386196559
Do you have a single fact to back that up?

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>>386196347

>But what about your son
>I'd rather he die with the rest of us.
>How dare you! First and in your heart you are a father!
>I am a Frenchmen.

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>>386196347
ALL I HAVE TO DO IS FIND A VERY LARGE PRIME NUMBER AND MULTIPLY

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What is that, a "think tank"?

So Deus Ex called it the Majestic 12 because they couldn't just say "the jews", right

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>>386196801

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>>386196801
>TFW no ending to side with Page
Seemed like a weird omission.

>>386196981
He would just fuck you over.

>>386196981
I'm pretty sure you were originally able to do that but they ran out of time/money for the game. You would also be able to side with UNATCO

>>386189887
They're both undeniably immersive sims though.

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>>386196347

>If there wasn't organized oppression, there would not be organized resistance, and you what you call "terrorism" would not exist!

Or another one

>Mankind is a question, that is answered by death. Your existence is a different kind of question, with a different kind of answer.

>>386196981
the option to side with UNATCO was planned but cut due to time constraints along with the white house and moon levels

>>386197053
Not if he burns alright.

>>386197092
As in the game would have a completely different split where you don't send the distress signal in Hells Kitchen?

>>386191615

You're gonna burn, and "I was never properly trained on how to use it" or whatever the exact line is.

>>386196347
The redpills from Paul Denton

>>386197246

They would literally have to compile a whole different game on top of the one we played.

Way too daunting for them, Deus Ex barely got made as it is.

>>386197246
Probably, there is still some dialogue left from it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBoHG-yJx20

>>386191165
SCANNING AREA

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WHIIRRRRRRRRRRR

BEEP BEEP

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>>386197382
>TFW boss fight with Paul in this route

>>386196157
>Metal Gear Solid 2/Metroid Prime
>Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
>Deus Ex
>Okami

>>386196347
>MJ12 Soldier: *cough*

>>386198067
you can't have two games in the same stop shitlord

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tfw no games today can even surpass a game thats nearly 20 years old

where did it all go so wrong

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>>386198303
t. pleb

>>386198282
they constantly change between number 1 and number 2
Too hard to consider which one I like the most because I like them both so much.

>>386198437
>prey
>better then Deus Ex
fuck off

>>386189189
>yeeeeeaaaaarrrearrghaahhg

>>386198437
underage

>>386191049
>sneak in on my second playthrough
>am rewarded with an entire sidequest introducing MJ12 long before the plot actually gets to them

This game is an achievement for mankind.

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>>386195537
>>386195779
I can't help but see agent York Morgan whenever deadalus contacts me.

>>386198437
This is an enjoyable game but definitely doesn't surpass Deux Ex.

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What did he mean by this?

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>>386200167
That globalism is funded and manipulated by banks and corporations. Just like real life.

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>>386195318
>Area 51
>bad

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>>386200167
The world wasn't ready for this game

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what is the point of even playing vidya anymore after the peak was reached so long ago

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>>386200167
The talk JC has with that blue computer AI (Daedalus? I forgot) is the best conversation in the game.

>>386195467
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vj304Xg_MSA
I like the dark age ending. It's pretty much just: fuck both of you, nobody gets power.

>>386195537
He looks like g-man

>>386200352
It was ME3 ending before ME3 ending was a thing.
>Pick three options
>Watch five second cutscene
Level design was also a lot more linear, reminded me of Into the Maw of Chaos from TDP.

>>386196347
The gep gun might be useful

@386200713
bait
do not reply

>>386200812
ok

>>386193257
>No grenades for climbing up walls
>No sniper rifle for blowing up security cameras
>Throwing knives

+1 for the GEP gun and stealth pistol, though.

>>386200713

That's where you are wrong kiddo.

Having a level where completing a specific objective nets you a ending is nowhere near as bad as literally just picking your ending without working for it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8kZ3HfeqtA

Could a game like this exist today?

Despite the memes. I'm actually tempted to try a playthrough where I max out swimming and environmental

I just beat this for the first time and unironically think it's the best game I've ever played. Everything just feels so right, God-tier OST to boot.

I wish more modern games had the love and care that was clearly put into this.

>>386189280
How do you even get that dialogue ? Joker always died in 51 for me.

>>386200447
>JC with the dragon's tooth while fighting NSF
hmmmmmm

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>>386200392
We just have to re-play all the goodies once in a while. And hoping we can still have not-shit threads about them.

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>>386193498
>>386193410
It's a cheat probably. When you just start lockpicking or hacking with a multi tool, open up your inventory and wait however long it would've taken to open the lock in game.

The lock will be open and you'll only ever use one item, regardless of level or skill.

>>386201590
Kill the helicopter technician at Morgan's place, he's an MJ12 spy and plants the bomb.

>>386201379
Swimming isn't really worth it. There's like only one actual alternate route in the game that needs a decent swimming and that's in Lebedev's airbase's underground.
Upgraded once, swimming is nice. Because JC swims so fucking slowly it's painful.

>>386191615
Talking to one of the bartenders in France

>Got anything to drink?
>Sure, if you like rat piss.
>Never tried it.

>>386201379
Swimming I could see but don't you need those one-time use suits to even use environmental? Fuck that.

>>386201748
It's pretty handy for when you escape Versalife the second time desu.

>>386201336
Deus Ex is even more relevant today than it was at the time of its release.

But in today's world, it covers things THEY don't want you to know.

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Is Deus Ex worth getting into? never played them please don't attack me

>>386201960
yeah.

>>386201960
Do you like conspiracy theories, cyberpunk, and RPGs? Then yes.

Even if you don't like those things the answer is still yes.

>>386201960
You should probably have a pretty good idea by now after reading this thread.
The answer is yes, by the way, just remember that the sequels are still good but nowhere near as good as the original.

>>386202138
>>386202149
Do you have a single fact to back that up?

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>>386191368
A mallet of a man. He is a colleague, not so slow-witted as one might think, effective. The administration speak of his inferiority complex, but this talk is never brought to him. He doesn't mind. The less he has to do with psychologists the better. They evaluated him when he joined up, they thought him fit for duty. That was sixteen years ago. Mechanically augmented, his modifications give him great strength but make him a horror to behold. A high price, but he pays it gladly. All for the agency.

But, the Dentons. Paul and JC begin working alongside him, nano-augmented agents whose microscopic modifications render them indistinguishable from the public at large, and the seed of doubt is sprouted. He may be replaced, disassembled to make room for more Nano-Augs. He realizes, if he had waited to become an agent, he might not have had to do these awful things. Had he waited, he might've been a candidate for nano-augmentation, and not become a "mech", a "freak".

He could even have chosen an entirely different path, never leaving that farm in Graubunden, never giving up his dear Nadia. He could have been felling trees outside of Sils im Engaden, working hard from dawn to dusk, and then going home to a roast beast and a drink. He can almost taste the wine slipping down his throat, a Grisons, taking refuge within him to warm his bones.

>>386201960
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY045AMeoUc

>>386202226
Easy there bro, just having us a conversation.

>>386202358
But that was ages ago, another time. Now is the hour of lubricated servos and flourescent lights, of orange soda and soy food. Of cold. His life is no longer his, he is part of something else. He soldiers forward, what were once his feet now nothing but fusion between steel and boot. He never stumbles, not once. He does his best to fight, but there is no place for his flamethrower or his plasma rifle anymore. Things are more subtle now, more surgical. He cannot use a stealth pistol, his fingers are too large and stiff, like frozen sausages. Why is it always so cold here?

People move away from him, turn away, fall away. Joseph Manderley, his supervisor; Private Lloyd, just a boy; Anna Navarre, pale Anna, the best approximation of a kindred spirit, borne away under the rocks of man. A dank catacomb in Paris. How is it still so cold? The niter clogs what is left of his lungs. A word, and he flies to pieces. How did it come to this? The dark: one thought, a memory of high mountains with white cliffs, the cobblestones are cool as they meet his feet. Going home. I am not a machine.

>>386201960
Yes. The first and Human Revolution are God-tier and Mankind Divided is good. Never played Invisible War because it didn't jive with the ending I picked for the first game so I never felt any interest.

>>386202421
You've got ten seconds to beat it before I add you to the list of NSF casualties.

>Again they ignore me. Again they think they have a better punishment for a traitor than a shotgun to the head.

>No, I cannot forgive! No... not the killing of Agent Navarre! I will follow you - Denton, I will get you!

>You are a small, prowling mouse... and dumb like a mouse! You keep coming, like you forget about Agent Navarre. I remember Agent Navarre. I remember for everyone.

>I see you, a thief on the roof. My new satellite link has both infrared and the x-ray spectrum. I see your heart beating. I see you are afraid.

>"Well be sld at flee markets,. old gray golems for scareing the children. So what about my legss? What about my LIFE?

Why is Gunther unironically the best character?

>>386202507
>it didn't jive with the ending I picked for the first game
All the endings from the original are canon in IW.

>>386202554
Laputan machine.

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>>386202554

>>386202554
I felt bad for him in all honesty. but then I remembered he and Navarre were pieces of shit who just enjoyed killing people and had no ideology other than violence.

>>386202697
Best use of this template I've ever seen.

>>386202654
I know they combine the 3, you merge with Helios, kill Page and then destroy Area 51

I took the Dark Age ending, no second thoughts and never played IW. I probably will play it soon after my next run through of the original, trying the new GMDX

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i want to play the original deus ex for the first time but i have a problem with getting used to the graphics of older games

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>>386203314

>>386203314
The shitty graphics add to the charm. Unless you're having issues rendering the game whats the deal?

>>386203314
Your loss man. You missing out though.

>>386203397
i am serious

>>386203558
What's the cut off for you in terms of graphics? I have honestly never played a game and had the graphics detrimental to the experience, one of the least important aspects of a game to me.

[/spoiler]Except for Dwarf Fortress.[/spoiler]

>>386202761
Anna was the real piece of shit since she knew what UNATCO was really up to and was all for it. Gunther was too stupid to know and was just following Anna around. I threw down with Gunther as a token of respect.

>>386203703
>That spoiler
Fug