serious question, what is it about this company that triggers you ?

They forced the flat design meme everyone is using now.

>>386148970
lmao microsft is gay

Does apple participate in gay events too?

>>386148478

Trying to copy everything that apple has done for the past 10 years. Windows 7 was the last good thing they made. All I want is a solid OS that supports a wide range of hardware and software. That is what Windows is good at and that's what MS should have stuck to doing.

>>386148970
>>386149038
>>386149229
>>386150137
ok, but all their consoles have been stellar so far

>>386149229
>now
it's over already
keep up with the design trends faggot

>>386148478
It only upsets the (((others)))

>>386150530
>says the Xbone fag with his zero worthwhile exclusives

>>386151461
This. I want to understand this reaction.
What triggered you to post this?

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>>386148970
>it's okay when Sony/Japan does it

>red ring of death 360
>no gaems xbone
>botnet win10
>fulls whatever they make with random apps and garbage like Cortana

pls no

>>386151554
sony ggers in general are unhappy with their purchases and proceed to seek for validation
I remember two guys at work exchanging information about their xperias and they said five times they were thinking about trading in or a samsung

>>386151461
Xbox has both Halo and Sunset Overdrive, both are better than Bloodborne and... Killzone?

>GFWL
jk fuck your games
>UNLIMITED EMAIL STORAGE
jk its 5gb
>30GB ONEDRIVE STORAGE
jk its only 5gb or something
>free update to Windows 10
jk we just deactivated your legit windows
>dont get SCROOGLED!!!
jk our employees can get into your mailbox and we scan your images for nudity and ban you if we see something we dont like

>>386151828
Sunset was overhyped then and it got forgotten quick

>>386151878
>get into your mailbox
MS is not google

>>386151828
and while sony will get more exclusives, you are sure xbone wont get any more ever, console without any future

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>>386151634
GAYSTATION LMAO

THE LITERAL SONYFAGS

>>386148478
Windows is shit. They need to completely design from the ground up a brand new operating system. None of this throwing shit on top of already existing system and calling it a new system bullshit.

>>386151461
>super luckys tale
>sea of thieves
>forza horizon 3
>gears of war 4
>halo wars 2
>crackdown 3
>cuphead
>state of decay 2
>rare replay
>xbox live still shits all over psn
>phil spencer is based as fuck
>xbox one s and xbox one x is sexy as fuck
>best controller in the market
>original xbox and 360 backwards compatibility
Xbox One? More like Xbox Won!

>>386149038
I have windows 7 and have never seen a BSOD on it. W10, however, I have seen BSOD scrolling through facebook.

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>>386148478
>W8 and W10
I'm still waiting for windows baka

>>386148478
Their affiliation with various political groups and intelligence organizations. Nothing inherently wrong about that though. Just another thing to avoid when you can.

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>>386148478
It triggers me because it's literally worse than Apple.

Seriously, think about Apple.
You have to pay a kidney to get one of their overpriced machines, but the moment you complete your purchase is the moment they leave you alone. They're fucking scared about you leaving them as a company, because they don't have MS monopoly so they have to make sure you'll spontaneously keep buying their shit. So you get a PC that's expected to last at least 8-9 years, while most Best Buy prebuilts start melting or having problems after 3-4 years. You know about PCs? Then stay away, but if you're illiterate, going with Apple is literally the safest bet (if you have money at least).
The current Os has a set of limitations that makes impossible to get problems by messing with the system; if you know what you're doing, you can always disable the limitations and get full control of it.
At that point, it's basically a Linux distro with nice aesthetic and comfy gestures.

With Microsoft it's not that easy. You'll get a system that keeps asking for money. Filled with ads, everywhere; even fucking Solitaire is asking you to pay for DLC.
A system that lacks old features while introducing new, useless ones. A system that keeps sending unspecified data to unspecified targets for unspecified reasons (remember that Apple got in deep shit with the FBI because they won't let them make a backdoor on their systems -unlike Google and MS).
Other than that, you get basically no assistance (while Apple customer support is basically sucking your dick, pun not intended), and a vulnerable system that isn't even automatically protected by their makers (while Apple releases daily free security upgrades to cover any new virus/malware/miner/botnet effecting os x).

Apple is anti-customer because most of its PCs are a pain in the ass to open, and they're way overpriced.
Microsoft is anti-customer because according to them, the moment you get on their system is the moment you start bending over.

>>386152037
With Google everything is automated.
When Microsoft's software detects something they send an employee for a human review of the content.

Google only scans items on Google Drive that you share to the public.
Microsoft scans everything for illegal content (and reports you to the police) and content that breaks their policy such as nudity.

>>386148478
Forcing shit operative system after Windows XP/7

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>>386148478
>Forceful marketing
>Brought in and popularized every anti consumer business tactics we see today. most notably paywalling your internet, of which there is no provable reason, and popularization of DLC/microtransactions on their platform for consoles.
>standardized all the shitty dev practices today through their partnerships
>Popularized gaming with dudebros far more than even Sony did with the PS2, drawing in millions of normalfags who've done irrepairable damage with their standardless, and tastless purchase decisions.
>Their shitty telemetry and NSA ridden operating systems have had a near monopoly over the operating system market for over 30 years now
>Is now forcing windows 10, a OS designed to STEAL, and sell data to marketing firms.
>Xbox one was designed to spy on the homes of users through kinect, of which they got caught so hard with their pants down they're still damage controlling it today
>Hires and sends out hundreds of shills, some of which LIKE YOU have made it to 4chan for damage control

GEE RAJEET, I WONDER WHY PEOPLE HATE MICROSOFT. The worst fucking thing Bill Gates ever did was hand over a multibillion dollar technology conglomerate to a fucking shit stain indian with EVEN LESS soul and morals for its consumers than its original investors and shareholders.

>>386149038

Why are Linux users so autistic?

>>386148478
Their open contempt for their customers and overall hubris, especially (but not exclusively) as it relates to their gaming section. Intentionally making Windows worse and worse for seemingly no reason but to fuck the users over without that even translating to extra profit which I would at least be able to comprehend as motivation.

>>386152142
it's really stupid to assume the box of windows 9 would have the 7 shape
it should evolve from the 8's box, like 7 evolved from vista's box

>>386151995
It was still a great game.
>>386152046
Oh yes, a future of... Killzone and uh... Knack?

>>386152213
>>Popularized gaming with dudebros far more than even Sony did with the PS2, drawing in millions of normalfags who've done irrepairable damage with their standardless, and tastless purchase decisions.

You know how i know your underage? The only underage ones are the ones who think the PS2 was some sort of elite, hardcore console that kept the "normalfags" at bay. You are talking about the age of Guitar Hero, Buzz, SingStar, Call of Duty, Killzone, Madden, FIFA, etc., etc. topping the charts, you fucking moron.

Fucking Sony fanboys, they want to have their cake and eat it too. It's the highest selling console of all time but NONE OF THOSE PEOPLE WERE CASUALS AND DON'T YOU DARE SUGGEST OTHERWISE!

I don't really care. I've been pirating their shit for 20 years.

>>386152184
t. google defense force

kys google fanboys are worse than linux fanboys

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>>386152037

>>386152298
I literally searched on gelbooru "cirno windows", and this is what i found.
But i remember some sites making up the windows 8 box, it was horrible made and still, other sites reporting the news about it copied like it was a real thing.

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>>386148478
>inb4 "but you can disable it"
Doesn't make it any more acceptable or even worth the bother

>>386152176
>the moment you complete your purchase is the moment they leave you alone

Have you ever actually purchased an Apple product? Apple is notorious for being heavy on planned obsolescence and nagging updates that deliberately cripple your old hardware. The few times Microsoft do it people scream like their children are being murdered before their eyes but Apple does it constantly and not a fucking peep.

>>386152398
I feel you, my entire life I feel like I've pirated everything they've produced. Everything. I can't remember buying anything at all. I'm 28.

>>386152413
I'm not a Google fanboy. But Microsoft objectively does everything worse.
In fact, Google even announced they stop scanning peoples emails for ads.

So Microsoft holding a scroogled campaign against Google is hypocrite as fuck. Especially when Microsoft outright lies to their customers about the services they provide.

>>386148478
Their slow and obnoxious most away from the Control Panel to Settings. Like, holy shit just pull off the band-aid or just improve Control Panel.
Windows 10 has a lot of nonsense that shouldn't be there and good features from 8 being removed.
OneDrive one my work PC is a monster and I hate it

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>>386149038
>linuxfag on a vidya board

>>386148478
They occasionally shit out good software and then immediately go and shit it up.

>>386152391
Yknow how I can tell you're a fucking punjab marketer? Because you have the reading comprehension of a 5 year old that had its brains smashed in with a hammer, you shit river swimming retard.

If you had any english reading skills, you'd see that I was insinuating that Sony's influence was bad too, but you're so QUICK TO SCREAM BUTTT SONYYYYYYYYY because its your only fucking CRUTCH to lean on to damage control for how much Microshaft has fucked up this industry.

I haven't bought a fucking Sony platform since ps1. Now damage control that curry brain.

>>386151878
Microsoft constantly does bait and switch shit.

You could also host emails with your own domain at outlook. But they canceled that service.
While Google let everyone who already set up their account keep it.

>>386152671
congratulations, you literally said nothing.

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>>386149038
>linuxfags

Have fun with all those games that run on lin- OH WAIT

>>386152720
>5 cents has been deposited in your marketing account.

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They piss away all their franchise potential hard and faster than anyone else. Xbox had so many neat IPs from both the west and east, but all got buried under Halo. 360 had fewer quality IPs, but MS did not pursue keeping them in the spotlight over Halo, Gears, and Forza.

And I think Xbone got the worst of it with things like Scalebound and Phantom Dust reboot being cancelled with too much suit interfernce and broken promises for Fable franchise and Crackdown 3. The current best game MS has put out this gen is Killer Instinct, and that shouldve been a dud by all means given it was made by Double Helix before being passed to Iron Galaxy. I dont hate them, but they sure make it hard for me to support them.

>>386152610

OneDrive truly is annoying as fuck. You have to jump through stupid hoops and do registry edits just to stop it from hassling you

I also agree that the UI having more layers just makes it more tedious HOWEVER the search functions in W10 are great, and having the little search bar in your taskbar makes everything incredibly fast and easy once you know what you're looking for.

>Always online for the Xbox cannot be disabled
oh wait, angry joe points out it's just a switch and we're losing sales. Better disable it.

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>>386152758
>sony dicklickers are this mad
stay fucking mad that sony changed the face of gaming for the worse, this is the objective truth.

>>386152213
/Thread

>>386152826
>BUT SONY!!!!!

READ IT AGAIN PAJEET

>>386152881
t. butt blasted sony dicklicker

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>>386152130
>best controller in the market

lol xboner doesn't know about the superior controller

>>386148478
For me, it's the games. Or rather the lack of them.

>>386149313
No, they are tired of being gay all the year, so they take that day as a rest day.

>>386152952
arent they making a ps4 version of this?

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>>386152623
>>386152732
>Saying "no games" over and over makes it true

>>386148478
The forced programs I can't easily uninstall that keep being reinstalled or turned back on with forced updates. That and how my rooted Android's homescreen is more customizable than my desktop.

Still beats Linux as far as game and program selection goes. I haven't had a bluescreen in over a decade, either, so I'm inclined to believe it's almost never the OS's fault anymore.

>>386152776
I spent 2 days trying to stop OneDrive from just being an ass and at the end it just did what ever it wanted anyway.
>keeping that huge ass search bar in the task bar when you can hide it and typing in the Start Menu starts a search anyway
nah

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>>386153076
>implying it's not true

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>>386152530
>Have you ever actually purchased an Apple product?

Yeah, I needed OS X for my job, so I had to ignore my hostility for Apple.
Got an iMac like 8 years ago and a MacBook Pro. The iMac is pretty crap and the only reason to ever use it is OS X. Still working like it always did though. The MacBook, instead, is probably the best laptop I ever owned.
That said, I'm talking about computers, while you were talking about phones and tablets.

>>386153139

Just a taste thing. The important bit is that the search function is very good, better than 8.1 even with the pop up blade on the right side of your screen.

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>>386153202
Do you use Linux daily? If not you have no idea what you're talking about

Also naughtyy...

>>386152228
>>386152623
>>386153076
>>386153202
>>386152732
Linux is actually the best OS. But the fucking worst part is that most programs found on Windows/Macs are not compatible with Linux which is preventing me from switching.
>>386153468
Nigger you could use Wine but it's not perfect and people mentioned performance issues.

>>386153468
Can you play Nier on Linux?

>>386153109
>I haven't had a bluescreen in over a decade, either, so I'm inclined to believe it's almost never the OS's fault anymore.

99% of the time it was drivers made by third parties that caused this. The reason nobody has had a blue screen in forever is because Microsoft kicked all drivers but video card drivers out of kernel mode a while back which means when they crash they don't take the OS with them. This also killed Creative's monopoly on audio hardware overnight so good job on that one, Microsoft.

>>386153468
Kek, I'm a former "linux gamer" too. Man just dualboot W7.

Playing on Linux is doable, but it's just not worth it; truly a pain in the ass.
That said, you enjoy games way more. Maybe because you often weren't supposed to play them, maybe because you spent 5 hours trying to make them start on your machine.

Well, they did start the whole "pay for online" bullshit.

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>>386148478
Cumulative disappointment over the years. The shilling, the sorry not sorry over anti-consumer practices, the ads on fresh installs, the amount of problems people have with 10 not to mention the "Works on my machine" apologists

Moved to Linux years ago and it just amplified the things that trigger me with the company as I don't have to deal with it any more

>>386153209
What's the difference between using media programs on Mac and Windows? People say that stuff like Photoshop, video editing, etc is better on Mac.

>>386153826
sega started it but they sold it with an isp as well

>>386152529
>that pic
Jesus fuck I'm glad I'm on Windows 7.

le epic trole threada

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>>386153818
>5 hours trying to make them start on your machine

Skyrim works out of the box on wine but the modding tools do not. I spent about 5 hours finding a solution and then created a virtual machine, pasted the skyrim folder to the virtual machine as a network folder and managed the mods in the VM. Was fun, I like tinkering.

>>386153889

That hasn't been true since Apple stopped using the PowerPC many years ago. Apple computers weren't good at media programs in particular, they just had good hardware and there wasn't a lot you could do on an Apple computer except use media programs.

>>386154473
why adobe developers can't program to windows?

>>386153679
>DX11
Some day I guess. In the meanwhile I'll just fap to the porn. I wish more companies moved to Vulkan. Even Unreal Engine is setting it as a default.

>>386151461
>Favoring the pseudo-monopolistic practice that is exclusives

>>386148970
>all those whites
wtf i love microsoft now

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>>386152391
PS2 isn't even considered hardcore. His point was that huegbox came out at the same time and caused all the problems he mentioned

>>386154806

Again, it's wasn't really the OS, it was the hardware. Apple wasn't using Intel or AMD, they used the IBM PowerPC.

When people said "Media programs are better on Apple computers" what this actually meant was the programs were pretty much identical but the hardware in an Apple generally meant you got better performance that was probably not even going to be noticeable 99.9% of the time. It was kind of guessing anyway, the hardware between the two platforms was not directly comparable. I vaguely remember that after Apple made the transition to Intel and the hardware did become directly comparable the tiny performance advantage evaporated.

Basically, it used to be mostly bullshit fueled by Apple marketing and now it's pretty much completely bullshit fueled by Apple marketing.

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>>386156114
oh yeah definitely, dudebros didnt exist during the genesis or ps1 era. you stupid fuckhead

>>386156114
What

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>>386153889
It was undisputedly better a few years ago. Such programs just used to run like shit on Windows, and that's why the industry (graphics, designers, advertisers etc) started using Macs.

There's a reason the majority of them keep using Apple stuff to this day. Let's be honest: Windows is able to run Photoshop just as good as Os X right now.
Thing is, Apple started making their computers to appeal the graphic industry. For example, Macs already have the right, quality screen (in terms of color management) you need for print jobs ; other than that, Apple has deals with Wacom and other important graphics companies (providing all the professional support you can need).
That's not all. OS X provides a more comfortable environment to work with, especially if you're using graphic tablets and such (there's a huge support and focus on gestures, making a lot of stuff way faster and easier).
OS X is also more stable (very important in that kind of jobs); I still get weekly crashes on Windows, but it's much rarer on a Mac. OS X also comes with any driver pre-installed. You don't ever need to install drivers, because when a product gets released, Apple updates OS X to include its drivers. Everything (keyboards, printers and general hardware) works the moment you connect it, except stuff Apple didn't explicitly want (the Xbox one controller; still works with custom drivers). Most macs are also almost silent, which is a huge pro if you work in video/audio editing.

Apple environment also shared whatever you want, letting you work on several devices (tablet, pc, laptop) and switching in no time.
Apple is also always making deals with companies, so, having an advertising studio filled with iMacs can often be the cheapest choice. Not even joking.

While the operating system itself isn't able to actually run such graphical programs in a better way (not anymore at least), they're doing everything they can to make their PCs better for specific workplaces.

>>386148478
It's literally just Sonyfags. Go into a thread titled "Why did people buy an Xbox", "Why did people buy a Wii U" or any variant of that and you'll see a bunch of people posting answers and then they'll reply to it saying >but muh exclusive. Even just regular Wii U/Switch/Xbox threads get invaded with a bunch of yellow smiling men completely unprovoked.
An even better example, note how there were multiple CEMU threads in the catalog 24/7 when it could run BoTW, but when RSPC3 ran Demon Souls nobody cared?

Don't get me wrong, all of the fanbases banter each other here and there, but it's all lighthearted and fun while Sonydudes take it extremely seriously.

>>386156208
the nu-males working in design positions disagree with you tho

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>>386148478
Linux exists and it's better.

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>>386156919

See this:
>>386152732

>>386156731

That's just bias.

I worked at a publishing company once and half the office refused to use anything but Macs and the other half refused to use anything but Windows and everyone was absolutely positive they were using the right tool for the job. Ask them to explain why it was the right tool and they proceeded to list features present in both OS, personal preferences about the nuances of using the OS and the regular memes and marketing crap. There was no difference in productivity between them.

Spyware in security updates.

>>386151634
No it's not. This absolutely is not ok.

>>386153670
I just don't want to fuck up my PC beacuse there no linux drivers for some component