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For those of you who've finished P5, what would the inevitable

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For those of you who've finished P5, what would the inevitable P5: Crimson need to add to make you buy it?
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>>386108901
nothing they can do to fix the shit plot

gameplay-wise it's already perfect so a rerelease is unnecessary
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less forced sleeping
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>>386108901
adjusting the pacing and let me go out at night during the story events.
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>>386108901
Infinite mode so I can live a Japanese school boy life forever and ever
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like five fucking new dungeons
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>doing a 60$ re-release down the road instead of DLC

how is this acceptable
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>>386108985
I think you should go to sleep.
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>>386109148
How would you propose DLC being implemented in a Persona game without severely fucking with the game?
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>>386108901
female protagonist
Be able to fuck Sae in the ass
New dungeon
More personas
Better Pacing
All the costumes for free
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Unfuck the dungeons.
Let me play as a girl.
Add best demon Oboroguruma.
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i need it
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>>386108901
>buying the same game with nothing good fixed
>just add more waifu shit
>maybe a new chapter
>that will be 60$+tip
>/v/ will defend this
absolute cancer
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>>386109252
There's a rather large gap in the calendar after the final boss for one thing.
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>>386109260
>female protagonist
>Be able to fuck Sae in the ass

How could you do that without rewriting the entire plot?
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A post game dungeon where you get Akechi back in the party. Even then, I wouldn't get the game till years down the line, but that would be the selling point.
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>>386109387
it's okay when Atlus does it
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>>386108985
They'd need to add more shit to spent free time on. It's clearly to limit free days.
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>>386108901
Replace Sweatshop with a song that doesn't suck ass and make Morgana stop forcing you to go to sleep.
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>>386108901
an extra dungeon would be nice.
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>>386108901
Can't fix a shitty plot. But they can fix the difficulty, less casualization, and add more dungeons like the castle so the base game doesn't just have two good dungeons in it.
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>>386108901
Option to play as a female protagonist.
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>>386109478
Is it weird that I kind of want to see an option where Sae can join the party as a replacement for Akechi?
Too bad it'll definitely be Akechi considering his popularity and the off-screen bullshit.
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>>386109687
>They'd need to add more shit to spent free time on

I'm okay with that, it sounds good
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>>386108901
>At least one (1) male romantic route. You cannot waste a face like this.
>Costumes included
>More things to do
>Akechi stays dead, the ambiguity was just a red herring. This happens even if you're able to romance him
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>>386109895
It does, doesn't it. Just tired of the Morgana meme. It's like nobody stops to ponder dev reasoning.
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>>386109873
I'd be more inclined to see Hifuni returned to her party member status. I don't really care one way or another about Akechi as long as the writing behind it isn't retarded.
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First Person mode for palaces
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>>386110027
She should be an alternate navigator with a different set of powers.
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>tfw still haven't beaten P5
Beat that bank level and I just haven't had the motivation to keep going.
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1. New secret ending
1.5 . More differences between good and true ending.
2. Rework of goro akechi's confidant
3. Buff fox and haru
4. Add Mishima as a phantom thief.
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An alternate what-if story that's at least half as long as the main game. Like where if Joker actually was a delinquent troublemaker who abuses the power of the cognitive world for personal gain and laughs while Goro really is a goody two shoes detective.
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Add extra month to characterize Haru/Goro more.

New social links. FeMC
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>>386108901
Get rid of the fucking phone IM and make proper animated and voiced get-together cutscenes.
The main cast in P5 really lacks some interactions and character development.
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>>386110008
WHY THE FUCK COULDN'T WE DATE YUSUKE

WHAT THE SHIT, ATLUS
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>>386110171
Oooor they can drop the whole prison time and add a new plot like they did on p4.
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>>386110196
He'd probably be available if they added in a FeMC.
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>>386108901
>all these retards think Sae will have any chance of being expanded upon
They'll add Marie Sue 3.0 and you will fucking love her. In fact, she's the only one you can romance at all.
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>>386108901
>For those of you who've finished P5, what would the inevitable P5: Crimson need to add to make you buy it?

More freedom in terms of time spend.
Rework Mementos.
Make a bonus dungeon or more worthwhile side-content.
Make Arsene not shit (as in make a version of it tweaked for lategame)
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>>386110356
>another Marie
Please, don't.
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>>386110136
Get the hell out of this thread before you get spoiled dummy.
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>>386110328
It was just lame that they had so many gay jokes about him. For fucks sakes, we had a gay relationship in P2, its not unheard of for the series. Total waste, especially since Yusuke has one of the best social links in the game.

I'd love a FeMC but to be honest every dude except Yusuke in P5 fucking blows.
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>>386110437
I already know about the pancake stuff because I wasn't mashing buttons. Goro is the most obvious psycho ever, they couldn't have been less subtle if they actually tried.
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>>386110196
>>386110464
Yusuke is 100% no-homo though.
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>>386110536
I don't think it was intended to be a surprise.
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>>386110464
I just don't know why it's such a huge deal. Gay Yusuke didn't happen, too bad, move on with our lives. I'd go for Ryuji with a FeMC anyway, Yusuke's appearance reminds me too much of the emo husbandos I used to have in high school.
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>>386110328
I wouldn't mind a FeMC. But I still want to date a guy with MC.

Besides, I wonder how she could even compete with the Joker we have. They'd have to get her a damn good voice actor and somehow retain that sexiness that transcends gender
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>>386108985
spbp
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>>386108901
vita port
more free days
bonus dungeon to change goro's heart and have him rejoin you for the boat and momentos depths
all dlc being free
sae romance

thats it
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>>386110745
What if they did it like P3P and just made her a different character? The FeMC in that had a much lighter personality than the MC did, but they were still able to go through the same story.
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I downloaded P4G last night but I can't get myself to play it. I'm afraid it'll be inferior to P5 in every way. Should I go for it or stick to NG+ on P5?
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>>386109873

I honestly thought that was what was going to happen once the story caught up
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>>386110706
Because I want to date dudes, dude. I wasn't a big fan of most of the social links in P5 so it sucked that the one guy I wanted to date, I couldn't. And knowing Atlus they won't make a FeMC because they don't give a fuck about their female fanbase.
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>>386110536
>tfw Goro being Light Yagami was obvious from day 1 but didn't catch the pancake thing at all
>tfw most people noticed it
I might be a little retarded
I should become a detective
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>>386109456
Scripted sequence after her dungeon where she gets hots for the genius Akira
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>>386110920
I know a few people who couldn't get into P5, because they said they will never play something as good as P4 ever again.
I enjoyed both, although I must say P4 has better characters with far more chemistry between them.
The Phantom Thieves are all like "let's take those r*tten adults' hearts!" and everyone agrees "yeah!", and that's the end of it. The Investigation Team has more banter and other events between them and feel more alive.
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>>386108901
>Add more events(the game needs things to do on certain moments when nothing happens)
>Outfits I can buy
>Hifumi as a party navigator member
>A few more social links
>A few more places to explore
>More time to go outside without Morgana limiting.

>>386110920
Just play Golden it's actually close to Persona 5 in terms of S links and battles etc.
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>>386110906
That's true, huh. Not too sure where they would go with it, but it'd be cool to see.
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>>386111126
>P4
>better characters
I mean, its got Kanji and I want to suck on Naoto's puffy nipples, but lets not go crazy here.

P3 had the best cast.
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>>386111197
>P3 babs
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>>386110136
goro loves pancakes.
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>>386111054
Yeah, but I don't really see why Persona 5 needs to give that to you. There are a lot of other good games out there that let you play as a gay guy, why not try one of those?
>they don't give a fuck about their female fanbase
I'm not sure what makes you think that.
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>>386111054
T. I am Neogaf

>>386111126
They are each their own game and their own universe and unique in their own way. I played them all and liked them for what they are.

Why limit yourself based on what things can be and just try them all before casting judgement.
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>>386111307
>I'm not sure what makes you think that.
P4, P5, and the fact that FeMC will never be seen again makes me think that.

>There are a lot of other good games out there that let you play as a gay guy, why not try one of those?
You don't have to lie, anon. There actually aren't very many good games where a dude can date a dude.
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>>386111054
faggot.
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>>386109252
Couldn't it work like an expansion pack? Say it was like $15-20 to buy it digitally (and they'd later make a physical release with it packaged in, like a GOTY edition). Since there would be balancing and shit done, simply make it so you'd have to start a new file in Crimson Mode. The game has like 99 save slots or something anyway. You could even choose to play in regular, vanilla mode if you want, although I'm not sure why anyone would choose that.
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>>386111126
I think that's what I'm feeling. Between P3 and 5 I just can't think of a way that 4 won't let me down.
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>>386111408
Get out Fujo fag.
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>>386111495
4 has a lot of fun hang out sessions, which apparently gets better in Golden.

But Golden also has Marie, who seems like cancer incarnate.
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>>386111394
>and their own universe
Persona games share one universe though. Except pre- and post-IS.
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>>386108901
An entirely new game from the pov of akechi
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>>386111557
Why are you so triggered by me wanting to date Yusuke? I think most people would agree that he was the standout party member of the game.

Also if you can name one good game where a dude dates a dude I'd love to hear it.
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>>386111479
I guess that would be fine. I suppose that I'm holding on to the foolish notion that a $60 price tag means 60 more dollars of game.
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>>386111698
>>386111479
You're forgetting the Atlus tax. Going off FES, P3P and Golden, I couldn't see Crimson being less than $40, and it will probably be more.
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>>386111590
Is'nt the same universe but rebooted?
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>>386111408
Just because P4 and P5 have male MCs doesn't mean Atlus hates their female fans. Would I have liked a FeMC in P4? Sure, but it's not a worse game for not having the option. And P5 is still recent enough that if enough people make their desire for a FeMC known, Atlus might take it to heart. In P3P's case I feel like the FeMC was more of a "what if" thing, and I can kind of understand why they didn't expand on her past that since P3/P4 is now this huge extended universe in itself. Calling her canon would've just muddied things.
>There actually aren't very many good games where a dude can date a dude.
Dragon Age Origins, Skyrim, Stardew Valley, Saints Row IV, and that's just off the top of my head. It all depends on what sort of games you're into, I guess.
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>>386108901
postgame mode and let me fuck the lawyer
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>>386108901
Switch release
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>>386110536
There's a twist you probably not imagine but whatever.
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>>386111857
No, it's a whole new one. The original "other side" with Tatsuya living in despair alone still exists.
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>>386111909
P4 FeMC was considered and cut pretty early on in 4's development, and they didn't bother to consider it for Golden, instead opting to include a waifu with Marie. P5 has such a focus on women and such a lackluster cast of men (who you can't date anyways) that I can't imagine they were trying to appeal to any women at all.

I said good games, by the way. Dragon Age and Skyrim suck, but I appreciate the recommendation for Stardew Valley. I'm pretty sure I'd hate Saints Row IV, but maybe I'll give it a shot sometime.
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>>386108901
Have a permanent member that has debilitate. I am tired of doing it myself
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>>386112032
I hope they will expand this concept someday
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>>386112116
Akechi has it
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>>386110008
>>At least one (1) male romantic route. You cannot waste a face like this.
Fuck off faggot. We don't need to pander to you
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>>386108901
I'll probably buy it anyway because I'm a sheep even though I don't really like P5.

I'd want to see Hifumi as a party member, retooled Mementos, some kind of proper optional end game dungeon that doesn't suck, and a FeMC option.

Although all of that shit is completely tertiary, the main problem with the game is the story and characters. In an ideal world they'd rewrite huge portions of it to give the main characters a better motivation and fix the idiotic twists at the end.
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>>386112217
>We
I don't think you work for Atlus, anon
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>>386112184
>Have a permanent member that has debilitate.
>a permanent member
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>>386112032
What's this about? I don't care about spoilers of the older games and already played 3, 4 and 5.
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>>386112301
We as in normal people.
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>>386112437
Normal people want to cuddle with Yusuke
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>>386112231
Ideally they'd change the ending so the Persona series can continue as well.
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>>386112473
Nah they want more bromance options like in Summer with Ryuji and co. Fags don't need to apply.
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>>386112437
why do i give a fuck what "normal "people want?
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>>386112095
Maybe they thought it'd be too much to include? Remember that some pretty decent-sized chunks of P3 had to be rewritten for the FeMC, including writing in entirely new Social Links, so it's possible that it just didn't fit in their workload. I'm not under any illusions here - if they were to include a FeMC and do it well, it'd be a bigger undertaking than just throwing a wig on Joker and calling it a girl.
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>>386112217
>implying this handsome man wouldn't steal the hearts of men and women
chill though dude. Really I'll buy it no matter what, and there's always doujinshi and shitty fanfiction. But it'd be neat to just have an alternate rank 9 and 10 or something.

<3
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>>386108901
Considering
>P3 FES added new S. Links, new Personas, a whole new story mode that's a dungeon crawler set after the main story
>P3P added a female option with exclusive S. Links, changed the game interface to better fit the PSP and added the Free Command option during battle, effectively changing how every battle plays
>P4G added costumes, new companion Personas, a bad ending and a dungeon
I'd say Atlus are going to add even less new stuff in P5 Crimson, maybe just one dungeon with Akechi joining the team.
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>>386112598
Fair point, but its not like they were rushed on P5, and its not like it wasn't a huge success. I really hope they put the work into Crimson and don't just cheap out on it, but I'm not going to hold my breath and expect much.

>>386112573
No, I'm pretty sure they want to cuddle with Yusuke.
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>>386112369
In the world of Persona aside from demons/personas there exist two greater power of order and chaos, Philemon and Nyarlathotep. The two constantly fuck with humanity, most the latter. And one time he succeeds in fucking up the world, despite the meddling teenagers beating his ass.
Philemon then offers to create a new world when the events of the game never happened and haven't lead to the end of the world. But in exchange for the protagonists' memories. Which they accept.

But in the second part of the game, the MC of the first part remembers his past life, and in turn shit starts to go down in the new universe as well. In the end they kick the big bad's ass yet again, this time for good. But the MC of the previous game can't be staying in the new universe, because he has the forbidden memories of the other side. By existing in this universe he dooms it to the same fate. So his consciousness gets send back to the original universe, leaving his alternative clueless self in the new one.
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>>386112647
Didn't FES add the Free Command option during battle? I feel like that was already a thing by the time P3P rolled around.

Not to say P3P wasn't great and all, but it was pretty tight on space for the PSP and they had to remove stuff like animated cutscenes and The Answer (which kinda wasn't very good aside from the music so no big loss imo)
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>>386112729
>No, I'm pretty sure they want to cuddle with Yusuke.
people like you are the reason why bromances are so rare nowdays. I hate you fags.
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>>386112647
http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Persona_4_Golden#Gameplay_Changes
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>>386112838
No, FES still had AI party members. P4 added party command, and P3P was after P4.

P3P was massively stripped down, but really that's the only reason we ever got FeMC, because basically all they had to do for her was text.

Atlus are lazy fucks.
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>>386112870
Don't be such a drama queen, every single Persona game is filled with bromances.
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>>386112785
Oh thanks, what a shitty date to end up like that, him and the p3 protagonist got the short end of the stick.

Although the ending of persona 5 seems too perfect and makes me think it may be an illusion, what if it wasn't real? I want to believe they got their happy ending though.
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Trip to the White House event.
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>>386112924
>P4 added party command
You could issue direct commands in the first two games, you know.
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>>386113031
What a shitty fate*
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>>386113031
We'll honestly just have to wait until Crimson to see if they give us a postgame dungeon or something.
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>>386108901
Here's something that will never likely happen.

Remove the safe rooms on the day after the calling card have been sent. Maybe just leave one save spot right before the boss fight if you must.

I feel like the idea of making it to the treasure on the last day via an actual secured route was canned right after they made Kamoshida's castle. They implemented the idea of short cuts being used to traverse the dungeon but then never seen again after the first dungeon and the implementation of teleporting safe rooms. Plus the whole security system percentage being raised up to 99% would make sense if you actually have a risk factor this time when going pass the guards.
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>>386110391
>Make Arsene not shit

I really really get what they were trying to do, but fuck me, that was a great design gone to waste just for the sake of a tutorial.
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>>386113148
There really is no point that the security is raised to 99% because you can just waltz right in. I agree, it would have been a nice thing to have, but I doubt we'll get much improvement on the existing dungeons.

Although Mementos really, REALLY needs to be improved. Holy shit, give me a radio, we're in a fucking car.
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>>386113116
The tower leading to Yabadabadoo IS the post-game dungeon.
If anything, they should add an extra dungeon before Sae's palace, so we could use the pancake man for more than a single dungeon.

Also, I'm wondering when is PQ2 taking place? Since the metaverse is gone after the ending of P5, I'm guessing it has to be some time before the end of the main game.

Probably gonna be just some random big shot palaces they grinded off-sceen to boost their popularity.
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>>386113056
What do you mean first two games? Persona started at 3. Like Fallout and Deus Ex.
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>>386113338
If its anything like Q it will be some timewarp nonsense that takes place on one day that is forgotten about immediately after.
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>>386113338
But the tower isn't post-game, you have to go through it in the main game.

God, how long would it take to grind to level 99 in this game without using the Reaper flu trick?
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>>386112870
bromance
and fag shit
are both good

And as much as I want to romance a dude in this game, I kind of agree with you. The best fan comics I've seen around for this game, for example, are when they're all just hanging out being bros.
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how about hearing something from your parents? they just send you off without speaking to you for a year.
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>>386113405
It doesn't have to be the exact same thing again. PQ2 doesn't seem to be a crossover this time.
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>>386113338
Q will likely be time shenanigans just like the first one, so it can literally happen at any point in the game. Just don't put too much thought into it.
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>>386108901
Unironically gay routes.
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>>386113429
You only get to go through it if you chose to reject Igor's proposal to reset the world. So technically the player can finish the game and not see it at all.
And yeah, the leveling pacing was kinda terrible. Here hoping that an extra dungeon in the potential expanded edition coupled with rebalanced exp gain will help to alleviate the problem.
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>>386113461
>PQ2 doesn't seem to be a crossover this time.

We literally know nothing about it besides that P5 characters are in it.
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>>386113461
Yeah, but time shenanigans are the easiest way to fit it in
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>>386113429
I might use that trick and the other one to get easy money because I want to plat it but no way I'm grinding that much on ng+ to create the personas I need.
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>>386110069
That's pretty fucking cool.
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>>386113573
Or you could say we know only P5 character are in so far.
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Get rid of the stupid pointless "you gotta turn yourself in now"
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>Nyarly actually returns
>in PQ2
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Realistic Desires:
Rewrite Makoto's social link storyline.
Nerf Wheel of Fortune a bit.
Buff the hell out of Devil perks.
Have Devil give you the ability to see a weather forecast.
More hints that Sojiro ranks up when making coffee.
More events in Mementos.
Make Chariot instant kill perk toggled.
Make Sun's enhanced negotiation perk chainable like the regular versions.
Have Reaper show up based on total time in mementos instead of per floor, because he never appears otherwise.
Add some more late game shops and systems.
Renovate Dungeon 5.
Expand Dungeon 6 bossfight. The second phase is boring and easy.
Add a new dungeon 7 mechanic so the transformation puzzles don't get so stale.
New dungeon in february, dealing with the inevitable return of Black Mask
More side events with multiple members of the Phantom Thieves.
Two new social links.

There is no way they will ever add another party member or Female joker because they would have to redo every cutscene and animated movie.
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>>386113748
Remember when everyone was convinced he would be the big bad in the P4 Arena games? Good times.
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>>386112647
I don't know why you are downplaying the changes, p4g also added new slinks, personas and an epilogue, your post seems very biased.
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>>386113568
But it's mandatory if you want to see the true end. I dunno, I guess it's hard to make a distinction since you could say the same thing about, say, the Chrysler building in Parasite Eve which is the very definition of postgame dungeon.

It needs something like P3's Monad though. Something optional so you can actually use all of your ridiculously overpowered endgame personas.

Like a dungeon where all the enemies have null physical so you can't Hassou Tobi your way to victory.

As a side note, is anyone else really disappointed at how easy the twins are? Where's my Elizabeth level superboss?
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>>386113803
>Realistic
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>>386113803
>Reailstic Desires
I only see them adding a new dungeon.
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>>386113803
>Rewrite Makoto's social link storyline
Why's that? I thought it was fine as is.
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>>386113803
Make Reaper appear based on time in Mememntos AREAS. Whole dungeon is too much, just a floor is too little.
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>>386111609
Well, damn. That doesn't sound half bad.
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>>386114002
Not him, but it's quite obvious why. Her SL was a huge letdown.
>help me learn new stuff outside of studies
>okay
>the rest of the SL is about that retarded gyaru student being scammed by a shady host
I expected her SL to capitalize on the student council president discovering her wild side, in line with her awakened persona, but she remains the typical honor student in the real world.
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>>386114160
BRRRAAAAAAAPP
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>>386113934
Didn't it only add Adachi and Marie?
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>>386114002
It was so bad. The entire thing was about her stereotypical boring friend character and feeding Makoto's prejudices.

Having to max charm to impress her dumb friend tops the whole thing off for worst social link in the game.
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>>386114002
>fine as is
>60% of it is about her retarded friend
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>>386114235
FES was listed as an example and that only added one s link.
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>>386111092
>Not fucking her over the interrogation table
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>>386114235
Those were the social links, but it added a lot more events and stuff. There's like a skiing trip or something, the town had more activities, and most importantly, it finally let you choose skills during fusion god damn.
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>they add a Sae romance
>to get it, you have to get Makoto to rank 9 so she gets excited and invites you over to introduce you to Sae

>>386114304
Pretty sure it added more than that due to FeMC being able to date dudes.
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>>386114189
>>386114240
>>386114246
The friend was a means of helping her realize that she doesn't want to do as she's told and is ultimately interested in pursuing justice on her own terms, even if Sae might disapprove of it. Just because she doesn't become a complete rebel at the end doesn't mean she doesn't learn to break from the mold she's in.
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>>386114217
Fucking shitposters.
Get out.
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>>386114383
p3p added femc, fes only introduced the aigis s link.
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>>386114398
I think people got that, but it doesn't make the journey there actually interesting.
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>>386108901
A Switch port with added content.
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>>386114002
i would not say its bad but i wanted makotos SL be more about her and not her dumbass friend. one of the parts i liked the most was about her talking about her father and sister, getting to know them and herself as people.

should have been more about makoto keeping her teenage spirit in check while still having to play the honer-student.
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>>386114441
Oh my bad,misread that as P3P
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>>386114398
Yeah, and the same message can be delivered through a way less boring SL.
Of course, not like this will actually happen.
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>>386108901
More Confidants, more purse owners, more dungeons, more activities, more group events(you can fucking tell they skimped on them) and a larger calendar to work with. Largest of all is more free time so you don't spend a good 50+ percent going to bed or advancing the plot only. Pacing was the games biggest issue.

Also datable Sae, she was best cake by light-years.
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>>386114398
That doesn't happen until the VERY end.
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>>386112647
>P4G added costumes, new companion Personas, a bad ending and a dungeon

And two S.Links, lots of new events, motorcycles,skill cards, gardening, the option to explore Inaba at night, a new explorable area, the option to choose skills to inherit when fusing.

I swear if it wasn't on the vita less people would shit on it.
>>
Nothing.
I'm not buying this shit again.
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>>386114447
I didn't.

>>386114398
But she doesn't really change. She's suspicious of the guy immediately and turns out to be right. Where's the arc? She just says at the end that she's changed, but I have no idea why.
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>>386111609
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>>386114519
Honestly I love P3P and Golden because they're portable. Its a good fit for Persona games to just pick them up and play them for a bit, imo.
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>>386114550
bad goyim
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>>386114426
Sorry I had to.
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>>386108985
"Forced sleeping" is just them giving you a chance to save in a long string of event-filled days
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>>386108901
Sae and Lavenza romance
Romanceable FemJoker
Previous Smt/Personas MC and their team as secret boss
Previous velvet attendants as secret boss
Arsene Picaro
And lastly, Featuring pic related from pic related series
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>>386108901
Proper social links for Akechi, Sae, and maybe Shiho.
Some way to make Akechi a permanent party member (with the option to let him still die, if you hate him that much).
New dungeons, or at least a revamped Mementos Depths that's more of an actual dungeon and less of a handful of baby easy puzzles + combat hallways.
No more "tired" mechanic, add more options for night activities, even if it's restricted to your room.
Reworked Mementos that's less tedious.
Improved/reworked guns that incentivize you to use them for things other than downing enemies.
No music change if you down enemies, only if you specifically talk to them. That way the battle theme doesn't get awkwardly interrupted every time you down every enemy + use the all-out attack.
Confidant perks for Ohya that aren't dogshit.
Deeper stealth mechanics.
I could bring up the story but that would be too much work to fix.
Gay romance.
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>>386114581
I think it's more that she wouldn't have bothered with her friend if you hadn't encouraged her to experience life instead of going tunnel-vision on doing what was expected of her. Helping her friend is just the catalyst that leads her to decide to become a cop, and she becomes a lot less detached by the end of the SL.
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>>386108985
>he didn't max kawakami
it makes it better
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>>386115049
Kawakami only affects the evenings when you went out to a dungeon of your own volition. You're still forced to go to sleep after story events.
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>>386115049
Why wouldn't you max her regardless?
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>>386115552
>That creepy neko face she does when trying to be cute.
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>>386115836
Meh, her twintails are worse. And besides that's her being fake as fuck, I'm fairly certain it was intentional.
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>>386115836
>I'm 18
>>
Still playing Persona 5. Just beat my third palace
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>>386115914
I still like her though. Would have probably picked her or the doctor instead of a girl from the main cast but it didn't feel Canon.
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>>386115967

RUN
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>>386115967
Wanna get spoiled?
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>>386115967
haru is a good girl.
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>>386108901
An extra palace, an extra month, ability to port saves from vanilla P5 so you can get straight to NG+ and an 'impossible' mode for NG+ where the enemies are all lvl 90+

Alternatively let me spend the entire year dating futaba and marrying her at the end
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>>386108901
Very little. Expand the story so the characters, specifically the female cast members, don't have to fight over the spotlight so much. Make Ann relevant after Madarame's palace, make Makoto relevant after Futaba's palace, make Futaba relevant outside of being the "hacker" and make Haru relevant beyond her brief moment of importance in Okumura's palace.

In fact, totally redo everything with Haru. Introduce her way earlier on the rooftop of the school, have her suspect the PT's on her own and seek them out after she gets her powers and begins suspecting her father is doing evil. Cut out the retarded "Morgana flips a tit and runs away" arc.

Outside of that I'd just like some quality of life changes. Make it so that you can fast-travel through palaces immediately on NG+ because they're agonizing on repeat playthroughs.
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>>386115967
I hope you are enjoying it
Have fun!
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>>386116302
Good taste.
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>>386112217
>doesn't remember Jun from P2
The fact that it isn't possible to have a male romance is a sort of downgrade
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>>386116335
>make Makoto relevant after Futaba's palace

how was she not relevant?
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Can we just have the dungeon crawling only take up one timeslot and not the whole day like in P3?

Call me a casual but in P4 and P5 the dungeons being such a risky time investment basically means you are going to be doing your best to clear it all in one day no matter how unreasonable the SP requirement for doing that will be because the last thing you wanna do is get near the end, ditch and then come back and waste a whole day to do 5 seconds worth of work.

Tartarus allowed you to chunk the dungeon crawling any way you wanted to and was much more reasonable and didn't turn into "UH OH! GOTTA MAKE A MAD DASH TO THE END! HOPE I DON'T RUN INTO ANY FUCKING ENEMIES!"
>>
What would Donald Drumpf's palace look like?
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>>386116563
As soon as she loses her spot as the "brain" of the team she never really does anything.

Also after Futaba's palace is when the game decides to stop shoving her into pseudo-romantic situations with Joker.
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>>386116617

Palaces can be reduced to one timeslot in 5 once you rank up a particular SL.
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>>386116617
Maxing out Kawakami frees you the evening after a dungeon dive.
Also, Chihaya makes it's super easy to max out everything in one playthrough, so it's not like P5 hard presses you in terms of time management.
Takemi also sells SP regening accessories, which make finishing dungeons in a day a cakewalk.
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>>386115967
> "UH OH! GOTTA MAKE A MAD DASH TO THE END! HOPE I DON'T RUN INTO ANY FUCKING ENEMIES!"
Good luck not being sick tomorrow.
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>>386116927
That's in P3
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>>386116927
Why was P3 cast such weak shits?
>everyone get sick from fighting shadows
>MC can't even beat the final boss without dying
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weird I thought I was the only one who loved everything about yusuke. Although now that I think about it the game doesnt give you much cool male guys to be friends with, akechi was kinda wasted too.
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>>386116993
That's exactly what you said faggot.

>>386117040
>Impying MC beat nyx
emo guy just sealed it.
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>>386116927
>not going next day to school nurse for free courage points
Sickness is liability only in summer.
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>>386116673
but she stays as the brain of the team and she has the most spotlight out of everyone else for the latter parts of the game. she got Akechi to get in touch with them and most of Sae's scenes included her as well.
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>>386117084
Yeah, you're right.
Also forgot
>can't summon personas normally
>have to use a device to literally force your persona out
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>>386117084
Reread the post dummy
>Tartarus allowed you to chunk the dungeon crawling any way you wanted to and was much more reasonable and didn't turn into "UH OH! GOTTA MAKE A MAD DASH TO THE END! HOPE I DON'T RUN INTO ANY FUCKING ENEMIES!"

Keyword is DIDN'T turn into that.
>>
Who was more powerful, Nyx or Yaldabaoth?
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>>386117321
>Yaldabaoth is fucking GOD

gee I wonder
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>>386117305
>didn't turn into that
>being sick after 2 floor in tartarus
Reread my post before replying dumbo.
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>>386117321
Nyx is a creature that came from outside of reality and is the reason for the creation of the collective unconscious. So Nyx
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>>386117371
>demiurge is God
nice meme
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>>386117321
Persona bosses are all just random villain of the week deities with no complex backstories or canon power rankings behind them.
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>>386117371
Nyx is an ayy lmao
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>>386117321
Size wise, Yaldy.
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>>386117417
>muh Nyx is SPESHUL - the Moon is actual the alien egg that formed as a result of the Second Impact
Fucking P3 babies.
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>>386117321
Is Yaldabaoth the same Demiurge as the one in Strange Journey?
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>>386117561
Yes. Different universe, no.
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>>386117561
Is Nyx the same Nyx as the one in Nocturne?
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>>386117428
>is literally god
>holy grail
>enslaves humanity
>calls down holier than thou arch angels
>satan blows his fucking brains out
>hur dur derpa murrr
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>>386117561
No, Yaldy in P5 is humanity's collective desire for ordertaken
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>>386117612
Is that Nyx powerful? If so yes.
If not, then no.
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>>386117519
There's more than one Nyx, friend. The one from P3 just so happens to come from outside the universe
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>>386117620
the Demiurge is literally defined as being an imposter pretending to be the one true God
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>>386117664
she's level 70
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>>386117620
>Demiurge's trait is being a false god
>hurr durr
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>>386117620
>is literally god
It's just a treasure created by the collective consciousness of the city.
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>>386115836
Anyone got the pic where its the seat guys reacting to her fucked neko face vs her downcast sad face
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Reminder if you don't beat palaces in a single day(or minimum days for multi day ones) then you're a GIGANTIC PUSSY
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>>386108901
>You can tell morgana to fuck off when he throws his pathetic shit fit
>you can shoot groo in the face yourself
>you can accept yusuke's offer to become a trap and fuck him
Instant buy
>>
>>386117412
>>386117412
You don't have to do the mad dash in P3 because you can leave and go to the bathroom the next day and you have not wasted much time.

That's what I mean when I say you can chunk things more reasonably with Tartarus because you are not investing literally an entire day into Tartarus
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Is it ever clear that the Metaverse was created by Yaldabaoth or if it's the other way around ?
Considering what Morgana says about the Holy Grail being the treasure of Mementos, I assumed that the Metaverse appeared on its own (or maybe it was created by something) with Yaldabaoth being born or summoned at its core
I think it makes more sense than a outer god randomly appearing to mess with Japan's collective conciousness
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>>386117901
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>>386117871
No different from all other gods in the Persona canon. Even Philemon and Nyarlathotep are ultimately the collective unconscious creations.
>>
>>386118030
Only if you can punch Ryuji for not shutting his damn mouth when you're trying to re-recruit Morgana.
A-Also I didnt' finish Yusuke's Confidant, what are you talking about?
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>>386118071
The metaverse is the collective unconscious of Tokyo like how the TV world was the collective unconscious of Inaba. Yaldy is humanity's collective desire for order so he definitely came from the collective unconscious/metaverse
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>>386116640
a wall of hope and glory for America.
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>>386115836
I love that she's self aware that she's too old to be doing that cutesy shit. Easily the best confidant storyline in the game.

Kawakami is a gem.
>>
>>386118183
When you recruit yusuke and complain that there are too many guys in pt, he'll offer to dress up as a girl. You can't take him up on his offer though. Atlus is literally retarded
>>
>>386118598
At least it isn't Dojima coming in before Teddie can glomp you
>>
>>386118505
Thought her confidant story sucked personally, 90% of it was just her bitching at you about her life. She's great outside of her confidant though.
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>>386118183
>Only if you can punch Ryuji for not shutting his damn mouth when you're trying to re-recruit Morgana.

I still wouldn't. Ryuji was being stupid, but Morgana was even more of an ultra bitch there. And I actually liked Morgana as a character.
>>
>>386118087
yusuke shouldnt be there. or he should have a straight face for both reactions
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>>386118505
>kawakami offered to do your laundry because it gave her a chance to get paid while she washes her semen stained clothes.
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>>386118796
Also her literally letting herself be scammed
>Our son died in a random accident, clearly it was the teachers fault for encouraging him to study! I'll sue!
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>>386118796
It might be because I'm in her age range, but I strongly empathized with her during the "bitching about life" scenes.
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>>386119408
This, it was nice to have some older characters to relate to.
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>fireworks festival was just an animated cutscene
>culture festival was all main plot with 1 scene after
>you go to jail before new years
The only real long non-story event was the school trip, but even then all you guys talk about are phantom thieves shit with setup for Okamura + 1 actual scene with a girl(you might not have much options here anyway).
Wish there was just more stuff like that. Feels like the typhoon from p3 just came back several times.
Also, Haru shows up way too late. You have to do nothing but hang out with her near the end of the game or you miss scenes.
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>>386113338
>after
>>386114786
>Sae and Lavenza romance
Sae's cool, Lavenza is fucking illegal my guy
>Romanceable FemJoker
No
>Previous Smt/Personas MC and their team as secret boss
No
>Previous velvet attendants as secret boss
No
>Arsene Picaro
Agreed
>And lastly, Featuring pic related from pic related series
No
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>>386108901
I would like the option to waifu Yusuke
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>>386121652
>Lavenza is fucking illegal my guy
Oh fuck off. She's probably older than whole PT combined
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>>386109387
i'd buy it tbqh
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>>386122173
>She is canonically of an unknown age, so this gives me the right of beating my meat to her
>Even if she DOES look 12 years old!
>>
Be able to make Ryuji and Anne date
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>>386121652
What's wrong?
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>>386123853
In fact yes
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>>386122173
>>386123853
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>>386123853
I've seen girls in real life who are 25+ who look like their 18 or less. I've seen girls who are only 14 and that look like they're 21+.

Just because someone looks like they're young doesn't mean they are. I'm not trying to defend pedos or something; I'm just saying that just because there isn't an age listed doesn't make them automatically a child.
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>>386109387
i'm okay with this.
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>>386124147
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>>386123963
Pfffff. If anything shippers will get btfo harder becasue of all new scenes for Joker and girls
>>
>>386117561
is that is the case then the P5 crew are much weaker than the random space marine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzUTC5U0QdU
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>>386125008
Well, he IS a space marine, and P5 protagonists are just a bunch of kids.
>>
>>386125008
SMT MCs are powered up by Great Will. I don't think that's the case for persona MCs
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>>386108901

Pretty much just a FeMC route and a few S. Link overhauls so they don't follow that pattern of "did something wrong, mind heist, didn't do anything wrong actually!"
>>
>>386108901
Be on Switch. And fix the cat. More free time either during the day, or don't force bedtime.
>>
>>386124115
You're a sick fuck.

This isn't about ethics, it's about morals.
>>
>>386124147
>I'm not trying to defend pedos or something
>>
>>386124030
>What's wrong?
He doesn't want P5 to be even more popular.
>>
>>386126321

i think it's unlikely that it'll ever be as popular as P4.
>>
>>386127451
What? P5 already blown P4 away. Anime and spinoffs are coming like year earlier that for p4
>>
>>386127668
Yeah, just confirmed he really do hate P5 popularity.
>>
More time with the group bonding.
>>
>>386108901
Be on the switch

I'm not being a fanboy shitkicker mind you, I just enjoyed this game so much it practically fucking ruined me.
I want to be able to play it for an hour, put it to sleep, and then come back to play it in bed later or something.

I had entire DAYS stuck to my fucking TV playing this shit. I loved the time I spent with it, but I can never get over how fucking bad I feel sitting in one place for too long.
>>
>>386119408
I'm around her age range too though.

To me, she and Ohya are pretty much total opposites. Ohya had a good confidant plot but shit everything else, with Kawakami being the reverse of that.
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>>386108901
FeMC and romanceable Akechi
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>>386129885
>Romance able FemJoker and FemAkechi
*Fixed that for you
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