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Games where the devs kill off the game themselves

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>>386091512
Basically they had a patch and now its unplayable and cannot fix it so people are cashing in on hats and buying other games with steam wallet cash.
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>>386091512
Fuck this shitty fucking game. I wish they never made it. Fuck

PLAYER UNKNOWN FAGGOT GROUNDS
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>>386091732
that sounds really personal, anon, did it steal your friends?
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>>386091512
Finally I can brag to my friends that their money was wasted.
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>>386091873
yeah sure anon after they got couple hundred hours of enjoyement from a 30$ game their money is sure wasted :^)
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>>386091512
it hasn't even been 24 hours since the patch hit though. Give it a week before you shitpost faggot
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>improve everything about the game
>smooth everything
>patch day lag

Yea games never have server issues when they make changes, ever.
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>>386091512
>try out first person only mode
>hear a guy come through a door
>strafe into hallway and fire 3 shots directly into him with a shotgun
>not a single shot was registered
>die instantly without a single shot coming from the enemy

What the fuck did they do to this game?
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First Killing Floor 2, now this, and the devs are still going to make a shit ton of money from it. Curse the people that have to make their tiny dick feel a little bigger by buying shiny garbage to flaunt to other players.
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Has any game been shilled harder on /v/ these past few years? This shit is genuinely reaching Borderlands or Perfect Dark Zero levels of shilling.
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>>386092151
git gud
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>>386091512
JUST
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>>386092138
>lag
>AWS
>biggest server farm in NA

lol nice damage control fag
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>>386092151
It went wrong when they made it. Fuck those shitty jews and their greedy early access bullshit. I hope everyone who bought this shitty """""""""game""""""""" rots in hell. Fuck them, and fuck you
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>>386092214
fuck these guys man. Fuck them
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PLAYERUKNOWN BATTLE GROUND!
DUNNA DUNNA DUNNA
WHO IS HE WHO IS HE!?
(Gotta find out!)
WHO IS HE WHO IS HE!?
*Guitar Solo*
PAYERUNKNOWWWWWNNNN

That's the into theme
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Wait what's happened?
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>hourly neogaf paid shill thread
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>>386091512
>YOUR PC IS SHIT IT RUNS at 144FPS FULL HD ULTRA ON MINE
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>>386092214
So glad I didn't fall for the early access meme
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I literally just bought this game, is it always this fucking laggy or is it just this patch?
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>>386094805
>razer gamebooster

Absolutely disgusting
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>Kill a streamer
>get banned for a week

I wish the developers wouldn't ride twitch streamer's cocks so hard.
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Well, it was a fun few months. I need to play more of this genre. Already played the mods, h1z1 and the culling. What's next up?
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>tfw no problems here other than the shitty lag
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>>386094828
It is mostly laggy but this new patch broke the records.
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>>386094961
>break the rules
>try to make it look like you're completely innocent and start a smear campaign on 4chan

Loving every laugh
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>>386091852
You joke but a friend of mine is legitimately incredibly butthurt because the rest of our little group plays this game and he refuses to join us and have fun because of his pretentiousness

So he sits there alone and livid while we all have fun playing. It's sad
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>>386094828
just the new patch. normally the game wouldn't be anywhere near as laggy
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>>386095213
>killing a streamer is against the rules

Kill yourself
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>>386095742
Truth hurts, doesn't it, kiddo?
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>>386094961
>Get killed while streaming
>Get those who killed me banned
I'M FUCKING INVINCIBLE!
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>>386091512
>naming a game after yourself
why
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>>386091512
>tfw made $17 bucks off items and crates already.

game pays for itself, Fun gayme too. they just need to fix this lag shitfestival going on right now.
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>>386091512
il take EVERY FUCKING GAME PLAYERUNKNOWN HAS BEEN BEHIND FOR 1000. The DAILY DOUBLE!i thought this guy was just passionate about making a fucking battle royale game, but its clear hes just interested in making a bunch of chinese GACHA cosmetic farming sims with horrible gameplay
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>>386095742
You can't say that anon, he's probably a streamer
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>>386091512

I paid $30 and have enjoyed the game for 145 played hours.

I don't know what more a person can expect.
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>>386096019
I will provide you with a single (you) anon, now scurry along
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>>386091873
lol how is that even possible? I've already made half my money back. you can sell the crates and items for gayben bux which = more bidya.
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>>386095213
Unless the person itself admits stream sniping you can't prove he did it
it's a dumb rule anon,the sad thing is that it can and will be abused
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>>386096321
Wrong
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Why do you guys hate games that do well and that are fun? Is it just a personal thing like you're not successful so nothing should be?
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>>386094828
usually the lag is only within the first few seconds or minute. Its never been this bad. I've had the game a little over a month now.
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>>386096516
it's a popular game that isn't made by japs, so /v/ hates it. plain and simple
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I had fun before the update.
Now everyone I play against is camping hard and an aim god or somehow as always the lag in his favor. Yeah, I won my first solo/duo/squad matches but I doubt it's the hidden elo. I don't know what the fuck is going on.
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whats with the 15 days items on hold bullshit?I cant sell my shit
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>>386096516
its early access shit so everyone buys into the "it will get better" meme, and the 4/10 drunk chick you took home gets better, she loses weight, and shes now a 5/10 and you think things are fuckin looking up, then she gets a nose job, and shes a hard fuckin 6, and then she starts taking fucking HRT and requires you to pay for handjobs on the regular, and all that potential goes out the fucking window.
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>>386091512
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>>386095930
oh my god, just use a better gif if you want to bait so hard.
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>>386096701
That's on steam.
You need to add your phone for 2 step auth
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>>386096701
That's a Steam thing. Click on the popup it throws in your face ya retard. It'll tell you why it's holding for 15 days and how to remove the restriction.
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>>386096639
>but I doubt it's the hidden elo

Matchmaking does have MMR, that's why. Go play on AS or EU and you'll play with literal retards until you top 10 a few matches.
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>>386091512
What happened
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>>386096701
steam made it tougher to sell. gotta get their app now.
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>>386096736
I don't play the game but as far as I can tell there isn't a p2w aspect of it yet? I guess that's where you were going with your meme.
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>https://www.playbattlegrounds.com/rulesOfConduct.pu
lol
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>>386092071
I bought the game 2 days ago fml :(
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>>386096897
what is wrong with Africa
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>>386096787
So I need to wait 7 days even if I get the app that can spy on me? And I have to put in the fucking annoying authenticater code every time I log in? top kek
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>>386096879
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/pubg-dev-responds-to-criticisms-about-paid-dlc-ski/1100-6452177/

(((COSMETICS))) ARE FUN! that will be 2.49 for your legal underage gambling goy!
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>>386096985
Nothing. But there's something wrong with niggers
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>>386091512
>it's a "the devs have no fucking clue how to balance a game, and they make a single balance change so shitty that it renders the game basically unplayable"

I was actually impressed.
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>game now loads twice as quickly as it used to
>buildings don't do that stupid shit where I would land but the buildings wouldn't render yet
>now there's lag

hmmm
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>>386096019
Get back to sucking your e-celebs dick faggot.
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>>386092350
Too bad early access will probably never die. Excuse to put shitty games out and steal money (some exceptions though like Slime Rancher, no idea if still early access or not)
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>>386096985
>>386097016
living in an hostile environment makes humans more violent than they should be.
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>>386091512

>expect new crates
>save up BP for a month
>new patch drops
>blow all the BP on crates
>sell all the crates to idiots
>earn back all the money I spent on the game in the first place

Playing with house money
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>>386097014
>It's okay with tf2 does it
>It's okay when cs:go does it
>It's okay when thousands of phone gachi games do it

You've really opened my eyes. Why would a game developer, who made the game to make money, not put in the most lucrative part of a game?

When there are actual advantage items like better weapons and armor in the crates I'll share your blind outrage with you because I disagree with that.
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>>386097342
NO IT WASNT AND ISNT OKAY YOU NIGGER.
cue playerunknown not patching the game but patching items into the game. CSGO hasnt had a meaningful patch since the fucking hitboxes got rebalanced and the flood of skins
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>>386097003
Yeah, pretty much. Or you can hide your phone number from daddy Gaben, and not sell your stuff. I don't defend their choice to do it, but I don't see a better option with all of the scamming and account hacking to steal items to sell for Gaben bucks that was happening.
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https://steamcommunity.com/market/search?appid=578080#p1_price_desc

>paying these prices for digital items

JUST
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if i can run gta v on medium settings at 30 fps, how will i run this? im not buying a new pc for this
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>>386097213
Oh yeah I'm sure it's the environment and not the low IQ and negro blood. Guess that's also why niggers and mudslimes integrate so well after 2 generations. Unironically kill yourself, sheep.
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Who else practically made their money back here? Thank god I didn't spend the points because I found it to be useless.
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>>386097468
are you retarded?
given the extensive information youve given us, id say you wont run this.
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>>386092138
The insane lag was right there on the test server. The fucking TEST server.
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>>386097468
See
>>386094805
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>>386097447
I thought they just released a patch to better optimize the gameplay that resulted in lag? Isn't that what everyone is memeing about right now? Sounds like they're actually trying to make the game better and make more money off it. Again, when it becomes p2w and not p2lookpretty I'll help you burn down their offices.
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i'm really happy you guys made your money back, but it's fucking hilarious. "i made my money back" implies a lot was spent. it's only 30 bucks. when are they going to fix the game again?
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>>386097283
this desu senpai
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>>386092176
>that "boy"
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>add new content
>fix a bunch of shit
>nobody plays the test server
>issue goes unreported as they push the update
>immediately get onto fixing it
>HURR UNPLAYABLE
Ive gotten two solo wins in the last 5 hours, if some small server issues are really an issue for you why the fuck did you buy an early access game?
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>>386091716
More info about how this patch broke the game?
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>>386097869
something they added or fixed is causing issues with the servers and it caused a fuckton of lag, they know what it is but apparently its a big underlying issue so it'll take time.
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>>386096985
Leaked footage of Dying Light 2017 patch 2/10
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>>386092176
Is that a guy or a girl?

it looks sorta like me.
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>>386094805
>gamebooster
Nigger just debloat your OS like what I did after going on /g/.
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>>386091512
Oh that's easy

Star Citizen

Though you could replace devs with dev
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>>386098274
pls be my boy/girlfriend
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>>386098443
that looks like a very severe case of the good ol stockholm syndrome
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>>386095891
It's the streamers fault if he is too incompetent to put a delay on his stream.

It's not rocket science and the only people against this are usually "muh streamer interaction".
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>>386091512
Eventually that applies to every blizzard game.
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>>386097564
>>386097213
someone post the screencap of some anon going to South Africa.
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>defending PUBG
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>>386098774
i think its more sunken cost fallacy
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>>386098097
They can't just rollback?
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>>386096443
How are you going to prove he was stream sniping bucko?
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First person is really fun. Just hoping they have the lag issue fixed by the weekend.
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>>386098964
they'd have to remove all the update content, including all the cosmetics people have unlocked.
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>>386091732
I've played this game a lot but I also unironically despise it. I almost hate it as much as LoL.
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>Run around for 10 minutes doing nothing
>get headshot a mile away int he middle of fucking nowhere
WELL THAT'S JUST PUBG FOR YOU
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>>386100820
>Suck
>Get angry
Isn't that just any game
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>>386097603
alright faggot
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>tfw made 16 bucks back from selling crates for 4 bucks a pop

thanks player meme
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>>386097283
Fucking this
>tell friends that crates are selling for $2~5 and just sell them
>bro, i want that skirt tho lol
>gets fingerless leather gloves, again
I honestly don't understand people who give a shit about cosmetics when you can loot them everywhere, and steal that shit from people's bodies.
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>>386101103
I'm genuinely going to keep playing this just to sell crates, this is absurd
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>>386097862
>HURR EARLY ACCESS DON'T LIKE DON'T BUY

Oh right I forgot "early access" was a legit defense to handwave any flaws and ignore valid criticism.
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>>386101021
>just played the game for four hours
>3 hours and 50 minutes of running around with my friend doing absolutely fuckall
>10 minutes of killing one or two people and then dying
I mean I probably really suck but this game is still a janky pile of shit that I won't even bother playing any more.
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Devs literally made it easier to make money on this game than CS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCxRKNw8Y74
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>>386102181
I mean I genuinely can't blame you
If my experience with the game was that uniformly terrible, even with friends, there's no question I would do the exact same thing and abandon it without looking back
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>>386102252
What I don't get is why more games don't do this
It's literally a win win
Players get hype and play the game note to all shut and get money, a large part of which goes in your pocket

Every time you get money for that transaction your essentially guaranteeing you're going to get payed twice because the person buying the create will also buy a key from you to open that fucking create

Players make their money back from gamblers, and you get payed twice

It's literally win win
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>>386102146
>server problems based on a content update which is in the middle of getting fixed is a flaw or "valid criticism"
Alright buddy
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>>386102954
Wait how is breaking the game not a valid criticism
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>>386101556
I am fully content with making 20+ gayben bucks each week off my free crates. Or if it's only for a few weeks, that's ok. Game has paid for itself. and I'm having fun desu senpai :)
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>>386092214
lol im a developer if I pulled this kind of answer to clients I would be fired.
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>>386103165
I've only ever been burned by market speculation but I'm still going to hang onto a couple gamescom crates for a couple months to see if they go higher than six bucks
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>people are already selling back crates
You're all retarded

Invest in Gamescom crates
The Twitch Prime crate was a FREE crate with shit items and it sells for 50 fucking dollars
We've now got limited edition items that are going to be in extreme low quantity due to how much more they cost to obtain in comparison to normal crates, which the ability to get the crates is leaving in a month.This is League Skins all over again, all you need to do is wait and you'll make at least $30 a crate back
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>>386103067
Because its a bug that is in the middle of being fixed? Thats literally the point of early access? How hard is this for you to understand?
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>>386103361
Twitch was one per account
This is as many as you can grind before the period ends.

Its value is at least partially contingent on there not being a future create that contains the same items
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>>386100295
>they'd have to remove all the update content, including all the cosmetics people have unlocked.

no they wouldn't lol. you can roll back one part of your code. things are modularized in modern development
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>>386091512
The Culling
Planetside 2
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>>386103679
>one per account
>5 million accounts
>can get the item from a free twitch prime trial
the supply is gonna be less than whatever it is for twitch items, you overestimate how much it actually takes to get more than two crates.

Also, people are actually wasting their points on the normal crates to try and get the skirt.
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>>386096290
I hope you can understand that that doesn't count as making your money back.
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>>386103886
Solid point I guess
I wonder if it will reset at the end of each week too
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>>386103956
he was never going to ever buy anything on steam EVER again

it's real fuckin close to making your money back

>tf2 made $500 dollars real money off a tf2 hat and only ever dumped about $160 into the game
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>>386103980
Even if it does, people probably arent buying them because they cost another $2.50 to unlock, but the rarity of these items for those who start playing the game later its going to go through the roof.
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>>386103956
People buy items for real money, so you can launder it out that way.
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>>386104137
>>>386103980 (You)
>Even if it does, people probably arent buying them because they cost another $2.50 to unlock, but the rarity of these items for those who start playing the game later its going to go through the roof.
Couldn't hurt to stock up on a couple I guess. I've made 20 ready dollars no regrets, I'll hold onto a few more and see how high it can go.
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>they really think it was worth throwing away the goodwill of their player base for a few extra million from crates

Meanwhile, Valve outwardly appears to love and listen to their players, so their games generate crate money for _ten_fucking_years_

Here's what is going to happen: Battlefield Hardline 2 or whatever is going to come out and be PUBG except more competent

ennnnnnntiiiiiiiiiiiiire community is going to move to that game. Bluehole, PU, irrelevant again.
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>>386104309
Even 1 will net a profit, ive brought 5 as an investment when they were $3 and they're already at $4.34
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>>386103956
Steam money is money to me. I buy games and play bidya my boi. I just bought hollow knight with my crate money. you triggered?
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>>386104340
Are you actually braindamaged?
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>>386104340
lol you wish. You'll be another console craved owner slurping it up in a few months. watch and see.
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Made 20 bucks selling crates for the week. I never really understood why people inflate these crate items for hundreds of dollars but I guess retards want shell out the cash for it
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>>386104340
Have you every played a Valve game? TF2, CSGO, Dota2?
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Lag is annoying at the start of the match, but its not that bad.

Plus I just made 10 bucks selling their new crates, the value just keeps getting up. I'm gonna farm this shit till my game is fully repaid.

I don't understand why people complain about crates, it's an awesome way to buy new games when you're poor as fuck. I bought so many things on steam just with crates/items I sold because of CSGO.
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>>386101468
>I honestly don't understand people who give a shit about cosmetics when you can loot them everywhere, and steal that shit from people's bodies.

Not only that, but
a) everyone immediately covers up their cosmetic gear with helmets and body armor so everyone looks the same, and
b) most people look like 10 pixel blobs on the screen and by the time you get up to their body to loot them, it's disappeared and you're only looting a crate.
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>>386104730
Yes. Ricochet. Alien Swarm. Teamfortress. Airquake. I used to irc with valve developers in the late 90s. Your point?

>>386104692
don't even understand the incoherent semithought you tried to express

>>386104558
want to bet money on this exact sequence of events happening? steamcommunity.com/id/swayzesghost
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>>386104340
I think momentum counts for a hell of a lot when it comes to games

LoL got in early and it's coasted off that for years despite its niche getting attached by dozens of big name publishers seeking to occupy the genre with multi million dollar investments

LoL had it's fair share of community missteps along the way
Once you have an active playerbase of millions, though, you're going to be snowball for quite a while regardless.

Also you're reading this like a misstep, but even people who were sad about not getting their sexy outfits for free are out there right now making 5 bucks a crate

This game is literally buying good will. I don't know any other game that has this kind of return in its market. I literally just started knocking games off my wishlist by playing this throwaway early access game. That's worth something to me.
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>>386104340
>Meanwhile, Valve outwardly appears to love and listen to their players
hahahhaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahhahahahahahahahahaha
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>>386104909
go play some doter swayze. 8000 hours isn't enough.
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>think about buying it for a few days
>buy it like two days ago and play for 30 minutes
>jumped out of a plane sat in a house for a bit until all the shooting stopped
>move to another house, find a shotgun, sit there for a bit, don't have to move to escape at least 2 of the area close ins
>shoot a dude who walks through the door
>sit there till I have to move
>get sniped
>decide eh and refund it

I don't really get it lads. I mean I guess it would be fun with a full group, but none of my friends want to get it, I have one dude who only plays cartoony games, and playing with the rest would be like pulling teeth.
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>>386104913
>LoL got in early and it's coasted off that for years despite its niche getting attached by dozens of big name publishers seeking to occupy the genre with multi million dollar investments

Name those dozens of games. I can come up with two that aren't Dota. Dozens, anon? <5 games, dozens?

>Once you have an active playerbase of millions, though, you're going to be snowball for quite a while regardless.

Nope, this is related to sunken cost fallacy with league, PUBG doesn't operate on same principles and even has full steam market supprot so you can "cash out".

The amount of people engaged with the market now is less than 1 tenth of 1 percent of the player base i imagine.
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>>386105045
well I mean you might have some more fun if you dont sit around doing literally nothing until you have to move
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>>386095351
Funny I have the reverse situation, one faggot in our friend group is obsessed with it and wants everyone to play it but we all think it's fucking trash.
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>>386105045
you sound beta. start naming your filenames too. queer
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>>386105045
>I don't really get it lads

no shit, you didn't play it. You went into it expecting to dislike it and worst of all you judged the game after playing solo (hint: duo is the actual mode of this game) AND dropping ci
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>>386104472
sleep tight kitter
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You know how I know PUBG was never going to last? Women don't play it. Women are critical to the success of a game in 2017.
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>dumped 400 hours into the game 2 months ago
>haven't touched it since due to unbelievably asinine policies banning people just because a streamer whines about them
>find out they're also going full kike mode with crates just like the shit that ruined TF2 and DotA 2

Normally I'd say it was money well spent, but I'm definitely going to get a refund. Fuck these greedy kikes and fuck their retarded streamer favoritism.

God, I wish I could go back to the late 90's/early 2000's when devs didn't let greed taint everything.
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>>386096290
>Niles making the basket
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>>386105438
>faggot kept quitting games until he could stream snipe
>gets banned
>DINDU NUFFIN
>/v/ whining about cosmetic crates that just make you a bigger target
wow wtf i hate pubg now
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>>386105395
lmao
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>>386094798

just what are you trying to imply here

ft13 is great
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>>386105438
>crates somehow "ruined" or even affected tf2 and dota 2
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>>386105209
>You went into it expecting to dislike it

Why the fuck would I spend a few days thinking about buying it, only to buy it and go in trying to hate it?

>>386105194
I haven't named a single file name in the 10 years I've been coming to this shitty site, not starting now.

>>386105174
For the first 10 minutes there was shooting going on all around me and I didn't have a weapon. What am I supposed to do? Just run up and try and punch someone? And then as I got to the second house, the firefights started back up again so I sat there until they calmed down, as all I had was a shotgun and a few rounds, and the kill feed was nothing but AKM and K98
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>>386105521
>stream sniping should be bannable

here's the point where video games stop being video games

when people get different treatment than you because of who they are

isn't that why we STARTED PLAYING FUCKING VIDEO GAMES, TO GET AWAY FROM REAL LIFE
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>>386095351


you guys sound like pure cancer

>>386105191

same here

>>386091732

it embodies everything i hate about shooters here in 2017

>tons of random shit
>infinite ego protection (i didn't lose because I suck, I lost because of X Y and Z (other players getting better weapons, bad spawns, people ganging up on me, whatever, anything other than my own skill))

it's almost like these two things are required for a shooter to be successful, which is why most shooters that are remotely successful are things like R6S or Overwatch or whatever, class-based or hero based bullshit where its asymmetrical and i can blame something other than my own bad aim and positioning for why i lost, etc.

meanwhile i'm just here playing reflex. ;/
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>>386105521
>Sucking the cock of a streamer and tve devs
Lel, got room for one more kiddo. Open wide
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>>386105716
>as all I had was a shotgun and a few rounds, and the kill feed was nothing but AKM and K98

damn, absolutely no way you could kill a guy in a town area with a shotgun when they have rifles. it's not like the shotguns are one hit kills at moderate range or anything

you went into the game wanting to hate it, your "experience" shows it, you didn't try to play the game and just "confirmeD" that you hate it like "you should" because you actually let /v/ craft your opinions

you probably then went and played a game on a mobile console because you own one of those. pffffffffffhahahahah.
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>>386105438
>tfw he mad I made 20 bucks of retards buying my free crates today

by the end of the weekend the game will have paid for itself

>>386105716
ayyy
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REMEMBER: YOU CAN STILL REFUND IT NO MATTER HOW MANY HOURS YOU DUMPED INTO IT. STEAM REFUND POLICY TIME LIMITS ONLY AFFECT GAMES THAT LEAVE EARLY ACCESS.

MAKE YOUR VOICES HEARD. HIT THESE JEW RATS WHERE IT WILL HURT THEM THE MOST. DO NOT LET THEM PULL THIS BULLSHIT.
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>>386098941

Honestly, why even draw the feet if you're going to just paint a shitty black V over them and call it done? These are the worst sandals I've ever seen. It would've been better stylized to not even have a line for the toes.
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>>386105824
off*

>tfw you da retardgnight bread
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>>386105771
ah so shooters are bad because they're like siege or overwatch, and that is why pubg is bad, because it isn't anything like those games
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>>386105128
I literally can't even name them all, everyone tried

The dead island guys tried, EA tried, UBI tried, there were independents trying, valve and blizzard three themselves into it with all their weight, a bunch of small studios popped up like mushrooms and immediately got bought or signed publishing deals with Microsoft or Tencent. Everyone and their mother tried to replicate it in the mobile space. Lol is still top of the genre today by a wide margin.

You say it's sunk cost galaxy but that just doesn't bear out the numbers, or take into account that the market allows for exactly that to be replicated by "high rollers"in pubg

Same as in CS. You can spend 15 to 1500 kitting out your guy right now and that is fucking early access. You talk about the ability to cash out as if that's more enticing to absolutely anyone than being able to cash in by coming back every time a new timed create is announced to make an easy 30 bucks

In the end, just like CS, what will prevent any game from encroaching on its marketshare is a combination of momentum and the fact that it literally pays shitters to play it (and it's fucking better at paying out than CS is at the moment, too)
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>>386105821
>Someone doesn't like the game I do? I-it's not possible! They just didn't want to like it.
I'm not even the other anon, but Sweetie that's just plain desperate.
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>>386105821
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>>386105851
Literally why would I refund the golden goose
I've already made back the money I've spent on it. What good is a refund versus an easy thirty bucks every now and then
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>>386105893
Hahaha i fucking love earnest movies. earnest scared stupid was the best kids horror movie ever
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>>386105716
It is more fun with friends but in solo situations you can play out scenarios in many different ways. If you played more you could have been confident enough to just go in and kill people but it was your call.
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>>386105984
Ahh, I see. So "dozens" amounts to, in reality:
Dead island guys (lol)
EA
Ubi (what game did they make?)
>independents
sorry those aren't dumping millions of dollars into a chance like you said

>blah blah rambling

in reality, there were about 3 large-scale attempts to try to replicate league's success and then everyone moved the fuck on because they quickly realized it wasn't working.

Three equals "dozens". And you don't even have the good graces to pack up your hyperbolic shitheadedness and leave, you sit here and try to actually "win" this argument. That you have no fucking footing in whatsoever. At all.

Have you eve rnoticed kid, how nobody is ever *ever* wrong on /v/? Even when you say somethign factually wrong, have it suggested to you that you're wrong, you fucking MAKE UP LIES instead of just being wrong

4chan has become valueless for discussion because of PEOPLE YOUR AGE. KIDS.
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>>386106109
he was great. he was also slinky in toy story.
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>game is fun
>becomes popular
>devs ignore balance, updates, and performance, start focusing on cosmetics and microtransactions
>start banning anyone that kills streamers or gets reported by brigades of stream watching cucks

Every fucking time.
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>>386106094
>>386105824
>Playing a shitty game and only getti g thirty dollars for it
Lol poorfag, Dearie when you've got daddy's money lime me, you can just ask for ten times that amount then lay actually good games.
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>>386104909
You didnt answer my question, are you actually braindamaged?
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>>386106187
>mad someone plays a game he refunded

I love autismos like yourself.
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>>386106219
Just wait for it to inevitably go free to play and turn into a "culturally diverse" community like TF2 and DotA 2. Fuck Valve and fuck Bluehole.
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>>386106256
Enjoy walking into gamestop like the normie you are.
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>>386106308
>Stop not liking what I like
The absolute state of poor fags my stars
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>>386106460
>console owner can't get his greasy controller hands on my favorite gayme

mfw
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>>386106420
Games today? Lol, that's for the poorfags like you. Nice try pumpkin pie ;)
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>>386106094

>you
>spend 2 months playing a game you hate
>make 30 dollars autistically working the steam market

>me
>spend 1.5 hours at job
>make 30 dollars

That's one hell of a golden goose anon.
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>>386105886
>footfags are this autistic

no surprise
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>>386104472
sleep tight kitter
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>>386106550

Well I wouldn't call my self a console fag, I have a One, A PS4+Pro, and a Switch, but I still mostly play on my PC. Man, it's nice not being poor like you
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>>386106906
spending your money on stuff like consoles is the definition of being poor, anon. you likely do not own one thing that is worth anything or has any ability to last.
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>>386106187
I genuinely don't understand your point anymore
You're trying to argue there wasn't a fierce gold Rush for mobas wish hundreds of millions of dollars? You lol at take two for some reason but then, Activision blizzard, valve, Ubisoft and EA are literally the untouchable in scale publishers and each one of them tried to make a move on the moba space and none of them dethroned lol.

I've completely lost sight of what you're suggesting will happen here in the battle royale space and I suspect you have too because what is it exactly that you believe will be different and based on what? That's all the big publishers. That's all the big money in western development. That's not even addressing all the knockoff shit in Asian copyright infringement sweatshops. What's do you have left here beyond your increasingly transparent desperation in trying to ignore what has happened in the past and will likely happen again?

Rambling aside, for real now, you think EA comes in with hard-line 2 with a battle royale mode and no market, and that sweeps the genre? Based on how great they did at cornering the moba market? I full on don't what you're left waiting for if you say "none of those guys had a chance against lol." If they didn't then what gives them one now?
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>>386106951
Lol someone's mad cuz I got all the nice toys. I'm laughing at your poorfag life right now
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>>386106256
I just don't get what returning it could give you if you have daddy's money and you also have 30 bucks you got from the game itself

It can literally only lose you money to return it
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>>386103759
these gooks made the patch 5 gigs, and there is no way that the patch is actually 5 gigs of content do you think they have any idea what they're doing.
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>>386106559
That's not quite right
I spend two weeks playing a game YOU hate, And I get more games for it

Pretty much fun all around for me, I have a lot of trouble figuring out how to lose
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>>386107015
didn't read. you don't understand my point for the reason I formerly established, you aren't interested in any kind of discourse, you are just going to type out what you think is right and take that as fact

in other words a worthless useless teenage /v/ autist that is INCAPABLE of contributing any intelligent thought. toodles
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>>386106906
>>386107107
I'm glad I'm not you. 100% honest.

I have other hobbies than spending money on every console. Why would anyone do that? There isn't even anything to play on console right now.

>tfw I know my job is better than yours

I love going to sleep at night.
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>>386107158
nobody cares about small patch sizes anymore anyone who games has fast as fuck internet

fuck bethesda in the asshole though for that fucking 30gb doom patch OF SHIT YOU CAN'T USE WITHOUT GRINDING POINTS
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>>386107238
You have to play 2 weeks to get games, I just buy them, you know, cuz I'm noot poor.
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>>386107291
I don't have a job because I'm not some sad wagecuck lmfao I wasn't joking when I said daddy's mean money kek
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>>386107415
dude stop at a point (you reached long ago) it's just pathetic

like, who do you think you're putting on this front for? the only one who gives your behavior any validity is yourself

this board is getting to be filled with more and more pathetic people and a huge part of it is that younger people cannot interact with anyone and cannot have discussions arguments or conversation with any merit whatsoever
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>>386107239
>Get cornered by logic
>Pretend you never saw the question that decimates your position
>Allude to a "former point" that supposedly addresses the rebuttal you didn't read
This out and big ol' smile on my face I can't even lie
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>>386107543
Didn't read wagecuck. I don't need to how poorfags justify thier poverty, I just need to onow they're poir.
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I keep seeing threads like this but I've yet to play the game. Is it basically The War Z but without zombies and with more players?
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>>386107328
First you assume I hate the game, when only you do
Now you assume that's the only way I'm buying games? Lmao anon

I have the same resources as you at the very least
Plus I literally get another game you don't for free
For playing a game I enjoy
There's literally not a way for you to spin your way out of this
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>>386107595
right sure i did

here's what happened: you said "dozens of publishers" sank "millions of dollars each" into dethroning lol

two games existed with the intent to dethrone lol. Heroes of Newerth and Dawnguard. HoN had a player base that died because they all went to dota. Dawnguard was bad.

In your mind you created some fantasy where you "won" (because that is the only time you win) so congrats on that I guess?

this interaction is over, enjoy one last shiny (You)
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>>386092214
>easy fix
>still not fixed
???
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>>386107891
>can't read two sentences
>posts anyway
???

why /v/ is not worth visiting anymore in a nutshell, people like you
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I am kinda pissed it when from a playable game to complete shit in one update. So fucking laggy with players just skipping everywhere.
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>>386107709
>making money by selling digital cosmetics
I'm sorry anon, not all of us are useless wastes of space living in government housing and barely scraping by through microtransactions. We've got things like jobs, and if you're hard working or smart enough they can pay well and be fun!
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>>386107709
>I have the same resources as you
lel you wish peasant
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>>386091512
>Devs add meaningful content constantly
>Biggest update the game gets yet
>People raging on /v/ because a patch in an EA title brings server issues
>"HURR WHY DO DEVS KILL OFF THEIR GAMES"

Devs don't kill off their games, cancerous people like you do OP
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>>386108046
>and if you're hard working or smart enough they can pay well and be fun!

a job cannot ever be fun unless you have something wrong with you or its a 1 of a kind job
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>>386108065
>>People raging on /v/ because a patch in an EA title brings server issues

>patch completely unrelated to server and networking breaks server and networking for no reason

it shows incompetence which is really all they're eve rgoing to show in developing this game. If anyone thinks it's ever going to get substantially better you are hilariously wrong. I would honestly bet the desert map will never even come out.
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>>386108110
>programming is not fun
Clearly you're not smart enough to land a decent gig. I can see why you'd think jobs can't be fun if your only options are working at McDonald's or collecting a tiny welfare check.
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>>386107829
Hon, dawngate, smite, strife, gigantic, dota2, hots, rising thunder (actually bought by riot and shut down), infinite crisis, arena of fate, dead island epidemic, literally an entry by every major publisher in existence, and none succeeded against lol. At best, they attained a level of being able to sustain themselves, at worst they shut down. None surpassed. Momentum of a massive playerbase counts for everything. Same reason CS hasn't been toppled, same reason TF2 hasn't, same reason wow hadn't. There's mountains of evidence against your conjecture and nothing to support it.

Your argument has zero clout and that's exactly why you've run out of you's to give.
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>>386108441
most of those games weren't intended to compete with lol. I listed the ones that were. The audacity to include 3d WASD games in this list, lol! Well, failing arguments and failing arguers are usually represented by their goofy and unproductive thrashing-about.

>dozens

less than a half a dozen games, most with no adequate financial backing, just thrown out as experiments in several cases

It's especially hilarious that you put dota 2 in this list, I'm not sure if you quite understand the scale of how much more relevant and popular dota 2 is than league, and the fact that it continues to grow as league is dying rapidly
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>>386108441
pubg will take over everything. screencap it fatty.
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>>386108287
>programming
>fun
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>>386108441
according to you, this game was meant to be a "lol killer"

here's your last (You). have fun with senran kanguro on your little portable child's toy machine
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>>386092214
>>386103263
I'm a dev and this means we don't give a shit about you.

I'd day the name of our game (you know who we are) but it essentially means all the bitcoin dried up and the server will be down in a week.

Classic snatch and grab and /v/ bought into hook line and thinker.

Catch you on Twitch with the next meme, suckers.
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>>386108046
I've got a job, it turns out my recreation pays me too

I'm glad your capitalist indoctrination has taught you the nobility of toil and the disgusting shame associated with literally getting shit for free without suffering in trade, but that lesson seems of questionable value to me.
*Tips my fedora to you*
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>>386108726
>hook line and thinker.

how gay do you have to be to lisp over text?
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>>386108627
>not digging through legacy code, finding snippets from older programmers, and adding your own shit for future maintainers to stumble upon
>not leaving backdoors in everything you touch for ease of access
>not breaking your own code so whichever firm that's currently contracting you has to rehire you in 6 months when a process mysteriously starts screwing up and they need someone familiar with the architecture to "painstakingly" dig through it to find the problem
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>>386101103
>>386101556
>not saving the crates until the event is over, when their price will skyrocket
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>>386108893
the price is always highest when items are brand new, not when they're not available. by the time they're not available interested parties have acquired them. getting the crate through your own play is easy.
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guys what's the fastest way to get money in this game? , I'm tryna grind these crates and take adva while the prices are still high
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>>386091512
>Games where the devs kill off the game themselves
ALL TIME REIGNING CHAMPION REPORTING IN
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>>386091512
I'd say sfv but it gets carried very well by brand name
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>>386108989
No, not quite, the community still plays that garbage game
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>>386108886
that sounds like fun, where do I start?
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>>386108287
sauce me senpai, i know thats shinobe but i dont recognise the pic
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>>386108989
>being a pleb

>>386109029
Fuck chiv devs honestly, i loved that game
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>>386091512
heh, it's better than games like overwatch and league of legends so i'm good. i just installed reshade with smaa and technicolor which is mint. fxaa is legitimate trash unless its added as a subtle filter to msaa.
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>>386109165
Mordhau coming eventually and will be twice the game chivalry ever was, you can clash swords in midair and shit
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>>386109040
If you're not retarded you can learn enough shit to get certifications for a software developer internship within 18 months. If you're retarded you need to get a bachelor degree in comp sci, which usually involved 4 years minimum of school.
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>>386109029
I can go online on diablo 2 right now and there's still probably as many players as path of exile total
and there are maybe 100+ people dueling online at any given time minimum
compared to 0 on path of exile
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>>386109232
I;m gonna start with c++ is that fine?
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>>386108046
>Being this mad
Deal with it kiddo, guy is having fun and able to fund his steam inventory. You got rekt, don't dig a deeper hole for yourself.
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>>386109364
start with python. if you have to ask if c++ is fine you aren't smart enouh to code in C++
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>>386109258
well path of exile was always bad anon that's the thing, you can't really destroy something that was always bad

it was always inferior to the game it aped and it had systems that were rightfully seen as stupid by most and obsessed over by a tiny niche of people

i can't remember how many times people tried to tell me a giant skill grid that you cannot possibly comprehend all at once was a good design element. it simply wasn't. the entire rest of the game is running around spamming one, maximum two skills to instakill trash mobs.

The game was always garbage. A sad ape of D2.
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>>386109415
too bad, c++ it is.
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>>386108565
> no adequate financial backing
>Smite want competing with lol
Putting aside these hilarious fabrications, every single time you feel compelled to respond you take great pains to avoid ever actually addressing the actual reason you don't have a leg to stand on: you keep trying to dismiss past attempts while providing absolutely no reason or support for your belief that somehow these same publishers who have proven time and again that they cannot unseat a successful game in a fledgling genre will magically do it this time. Right now you've basically acknowledged that they tried in the past, but that they must not have actually wanted to make money because they apparently purposely sabotaged their attempt to enter the genre.

The beauty of it is even though that's plainly retarded, EVEN IF we accept that as true or basically says that's exactly what they'll do again and that's exactly why they'll fail again. Regardless of whether we accept your premise or not, you have absolutely nothing to offer by way of explaining why THIS is going to be the time any one of all these major publishers will finally pull off the thing that they either have been consistently too incompetent to do or to uninterested to properly attempt. There's nothing to your argument but your desire to see this game fail, which is really weird and also not an argument
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>>386109364
C++ or Java will land you a guaranteed job if you get certifications in them. Ignore >>386109415
he's a retarded hipster who fell for the easy language meme.
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>>386109553
>certifications in them

someone who has a "certification" in c cannot program c

certifications are absolutely, completely, objectively factually truthfully worthless when it comes to programming. All that matters is the ability to actually fucking program.

Start with python. You aren't smart enough to code C if you're asking people on /v/ how to start coding.
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>>386104472
all those things that didn't happen :'(
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>>386109714
>certifications are worthless
Said the anon who failed his cert exams. Employers care more about certs than degrees because it shows that the employee is specialized in the field he's applying for rather than being a jack of all trades IT monkey who skimmed university classes.
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>Bought the game yesterday
>Played for a little over 2 hours with friends
>Today the game is unplayable
Can I still get a refund
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>>386109212
Yeah but chive had a charm to it i think mordhau is missing from what i have seen
>AAAAGGGGGAAAAATTTTHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>386109714
>you aren't smart enough to do X if you weren't born knowing how to do X
Way to ruin your own credibility anon. Everyone starts somewhere, someone that has never heard of C++ today might in fact become one of the C++ programmers out there after asking someone else if it's worth learning on an anonymous bird watching board.
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>>386109867
>Said the anon who failed his cert exams.

hahha, no. I can do the things I do, so I never had to be "certified". I'm almost 40 kidder.
>certs than degrees

yes you know what they care most about in development? the ability to produce working code. your job is a tax writeoff, you aren't a developer
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>>386109928
Wait a bit if you enjoyed it. I bought it two days ago and I've been having a blast with a friend until the patch ruined it today. If it gets fixed then the game will be better than it ever has been, when I managed to play today without lag the game was smoother and less buggy than before by far.

I think you can refund any Early Access game before it launches no matter how much time you have in it, at least I hope so because I've gotten 20 hours the past two days.
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>>386110001
I requested on the forums that they directly steal the scream button from Chivalry and one of the head developers replied within minutes saying that scream button is ALREADY IN.

URAAAAAAAEUUUUUUUUUUUGHHHHHH

I'm literally going to scream "Agatha" over the mic Agatha will never fucking die
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>>386110039
No, not really, the vast majority of the population cannot learn to program because they aren't smart enough and cannot manipulate data in their head in the necessary way

"everyone can learn to program" is the biggest lie that has been told recently. Programming bootcamps. LOL. yeah all these black women and shit are gonna learn to program, right
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>>386109161
https://exhentai.org/g/672569/b089b4b846/
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>>386105771
>;/
Opinion discarded.
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>>386110295
Pretty much what this guy said. Even something as simple as the Programming Logic and Design intro courses offered to IT freshmen have a 60-70% dropout rate. For some retarded reason girls are almost non-existent in the coding community.
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>>386109494
>you can't really destroy something that was always bad
It didn't stop GGG from trying


GGG is probably the worst offender of a developer who micromanages the metagame and stifles emergent gameplay. They hand you a systems driven game with 10000 interactive elements, then every time a good build is discovered, they nerf it. Sometimes they nerfed builds within 24 hours of going public. Even the 'allowed' meta builds get routinely nerfed to keep the metagame turning over instead of giving players reasons to use other builds.

Someone comes up with a way to slow monsters by 100% using insanely expensive components? Nerfed into the ground. Mirror arrow clones that self destruct for good damage due to minion instability? Btfo. Frost walls + kinetic blast? They tore that build apart piece by piece in patch after patch until nothing remained

Now look at Diablo 2. How many rebalancings did the developers do after patch 1.10? The only nerf they did in a decade of leaving hte game untouched was to make blessed hammer no longer pierce magic immune undead in PvM. And that was it. And it only affected baal wave #2, and had no impact on PvP. They gave minor buffs to other builds but didn't nerf anything else
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>>386110295
I never claimed that the vast majority can, but to imply that no one can is a gross exaggeration. I myself learned Java and C++ on my own time with no background in programming whatsoever 4 years ago. Now I find enough work in the field to easily out-earn what I was getting from my non-STEM degrees by a factor of 3.

You know how I got started? I asked /xcg/ over in /vg/ what programming languages were good to learn.
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>>386110508
I am not opposed to that style of development though. It keeps the game fresh.

Okay you can kill everything instantly with 0 risk to you. Why keep doing it? How is it fun?

My philosophy is more in line with them. This is also the way Dota 2 works now, they just kind of randomly change shit around to an extent, to make certain heroes better and shit, so the game changes heavily to keep it fresh.
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>>386110295
what if they learned to program in a retard language
and then they went full retard?
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>>386110846
that isn't programming
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>>386110846
what the fuck is this
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>>386110794
so wheres the reward in creative buildmaking?
a well balanced game like dota 2 or diablo 2 can have dozens of viable builds existing side by side
GGG couldn't balance well because its a linear PvM grinding game that lacks the self-balancing aspect of builds with different strengths/weaknesses interacting. D2 would be a broken game if all anyone played was PvM, because there's no reason to play anything but a hammerdin, javazon or light sorc. But in dueling theres like 30+ viable builds

GGG's style meant that even though their engine is very complex and interactive, if you figure out how to optimize it, they will punish you for being creative and ban your build.
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>>386110952
its obviously code that adds normal vectors on a camera system
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>>386097191
Foxhole is also pretty damn cool for early access. Fairly seamless mechanics so far for an alpha, and you get to experience bonafide Sufferingâ„¢
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if i see one more fucking reply to this thread im taking down the 4chan servers forever
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>>386111010
>so wheres the reward in creative buildmaking?

the fact that it worked for a day. you're grinding trashmobs at infinite speed anon there is NOWHERE TO GO WITH IT.
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rip
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>>386111010

Not him, but I see where both of you are coming from.

I used to play (in like, january of 2013) a game called warframe.

Ember had an ability that raised her armor so she could get in closer to do more dps (she was supposed to be a fire-based magic caster class) - some players figured out that the armor boost on the ignite spell was actually really really good, better than the actual 'tank' if you stack armor mods and such, so...

the "supposed to be dps" caster became the best tank in the game (shield tanking was not viable yet, and several other tank classes hadn't been released yet).

So me, being the player I am, feel that his unique and clever way of using game mechanics should be rewarded.

But the devs say, that's not what we intended, so we're gonna change that and remove that and make sure you aren't able to do that because she's supposed to be a dps class (ironically, she has no damage, and no utility, even after her rework, and now she cant' tank either, so totally useless).

In GGG's case, there are builds they keep nerfing constantly that still manage to survive (vaal spark for example (though this most recent nerf might finally kill it, idk)) and then there are cool unique things that are, well, TOO good (like poison / chaos damage exploitation) and in order to keep the game within the pace that they expect, they have to tone down some stuff when it comes to best in slot possibilities, because otherwise the game is just completely broken (should you REALLY be able to slow a monster 100%)

I agree with you both to a point, but yeah.

d2 is also a bad example to use for balance because duel has its own bullshit rules that people invented because of how naturally imbalanced it is, and pve in the game raelly has no endgame content or anythng designed for people above level, like 80 or so (yes i know they added ubers after i stopped playing, but even that isnt really enough, its nothing like labryinth or maps, or even adventure mode / grifts
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Runescape
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Is there some sort of exploit currently for getting crates?

Only played one match since the update and it glitched out so I haven't bothered playing it.
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>>386097191

Slime rancher just came out.

So did Everspace, but it was actually better in early access LOL (they even had to change voice actors and everything)

>>386111275

please do.

>>386111152

i have been hearing a lot about this and want to give it a try. at 17.99 it seems like it's worth it just for the experience. i love the reviews from retards who dont even try to play the game though

"i installed, joined a server, walked in the snow toward the front line for 30 minutes, and then refunded. not fun"

like it's a team based game nigga just ask for a ride someone will pick you up LOL why go 1-man-army in a fucking team based game

ironically the "every unit in the RTS is another player" thing has been tried to a lesser extent with Savage 2, Battlezone 1+2, Natural Selection, etc... but doesnt always work well...

on top of that, i've played other clapfoot games and they're dogshit (sector strike, for example, but i'm cancer so i actually cleared all 100 levels on all difficulties despite them being literally the same)
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>>386111558
>d2 is also a bad example to use for balance because duel has its own bullshit rules that people invented because of how naturally imbalanced it is

Yeah but that IS emergent gameplay
that's precisely what GGG stifled with PoE but flourished in D2

D2 dueling would be lame if everyone had 16 full juvs, tped or s/e'd every time they got hit, used 40 enchanted immune revives on a modding bone necro, etc.
But people enjoy the game and have fun because they play with the rules the community created and they enforce their own rules, and people who violate the rules just create a social dynamic that is natural to the human condition- white hats and black hats, cowboys and indians. Its fun to watch a modding hammerdin get hit by a plague javelin and then die to a dark spearwoman and lose 10% of his experience at level 98, because he's a cunt
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>>386111558
Did you know they're making warframe 2.0 and it looks dank as fuck

when they could've made a new game they're investing hugely in the existing ecosystem and that is good business.
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All these niggas don't know about steemit.com
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>>386095351
Third-person shooters are shit, especially in multi-player. You sacrifice details for peripheral vision, but then block out the all-important center with the character. The camera angle is easily abused to look around corners, it's hard to tell just where your shots will clear the edge of a piece of cover, and the guns all feel like utter shit because the feedback from them is reduced to a twitching crosshair.
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>>386111837
Their eventual goal for foxhole is to integrate every single player into one 'shard' / giganto map. Devs mentioned it's a definite goal assuming the pop picks up; as it is now we already have 100+ cap servers full often.
I play often and the gift of the mechanics is that it doesn't have to be a shooty game. You can join a logistics group as a literal scrap farmer tending to your cotton fields, or as a disgusting pissjug trucker, or other jobs depending on what needs to be done. You can be bob the builder and fuck up roadways, who cares.
However the players on teams need to have communication otherwise shit ain't getting done. Which is bad because modern PC gamer majority players are fucking shits. We are obviously not shits, so we could probably set up a private /v/ or /vg/ server and have good times.
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>>386104472
sleep tight kitter

I haven't slept in two days, I need this.
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>>386104472
Steam noob here.

How do i sell that shit?
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>>386112471
>Their eventual goal for foxhole is to integrate every single player into one 'shard' / giganto map

This isn't going to ever, ever happen if the first version of the game doesn't support it. Do not tell people this on /v/ because you are feeding desire for something that's not going to happen.

Please for the love of god think about every signle time a developer has ever said something tha tseems too good to be true about their game
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>>386106621
>>footfags are this autistic
This.
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>>386091512
What happened
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>>386105438
>played a game for 400 hours
>still expects a refund
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>>386112982
Time played doesn't apply to early access titles.
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>>386112645
This is why I said their goal is to do it. I'm simply repeating a dev statement.
Planetside 1 managed to do something similar. Foxhole's graphical demands are far less complex and so it's possible they may be able to implement, if not a single map, a large large area divided into sections like PS1.
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>>386112867

They released a patch that was horribly broken and makes the game virtually unplayable.

But it's a game that's really popular on twitch, so everyone could see on the test server that the patch was fucked, and they decided to go live with it anyway.
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>>386113110
They aren't going to do it.
>Graphical demands
absolutely nothing to do with it whatsoever anon.

do not ever expect this game to be "massively multiplayer" it will not ever be such. Don't shill it by saying they're working on it because it's a lie.
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>>386112867
They added car horns and are banning people for using them. The update also created huge connectivity issues.

Also Open world, survival, zombies.
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>>386113178
Why not just remove car horns?
>Survival
>Zombies
I don't think those are in pubg
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>>386113174
I never said they're working on it. They mentioned it was a goal.
Until their goals are either never met, or until conditions in developing the game are so bad that it's a dead dream, you shouldn't knock a game immediately based off of your expectations when they don't match up with the dev's 100%. Anything could happen.
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>>386091512
Im still sad and upset
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>>386104472
>Steam money is money to me. I buy games and play bidya my boi. I just bought hollow knight with my crate money. you triggered?

> play cs:go lottery (play game, get box, buy key, open box. spent like 10 eur on keys)
> get ~500 eur knife
> sell knife on Steam market (what a stupid fuck I was, never heard about g2a/kinguin/PA and such)
> realize now I have DRM money
> every game costs 60-70 EUR at least
> I just literally burned my money

Steam money is literally worst fucking money.
It's like getting a 100$ which is worth 20$. There is one person who wins here and that is McFattyFuck Gaben.

> mfw
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>>386113318
>expectations
>anything could happen
no, it couldn't, because you don't understand programming

the server wasn't made to be actually mmo, so it will not ever happen, because I guarantee they aren't rewriting the entire server

I am *TELLING* you authoritatively that it is not going to happen so don't fucking shill that shit looking game here again with the byline of "maybe it'll be a real mmo one day" IT WON'T.
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>>386091873
people who make shit purchase decisions will never process that. they just don't want to.
I mean imagine buying a 1000$ iPhone and realizing it's just sitting on your desk all day. Would you brag about it?
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>>386092151
this happened to me as well before patch.
> get scar
> guy comes in room
> hit him 4-5 times in head
> oneshots me

> get shotgun
> sneak upon a guy
> hit him 2 times 100%
> even have time hit him again
> he does not die and just kills me

Game has an utter shit netcode/hit-registration. Like it would need the tightest netcode ever made (due to the one-life mechanics), but it just sucks A LOT.

>>386092181
Well, Twitch + kids son. Companies just really go hit and miss with their marketing attempts, that's why they fail.
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>>386098365
>>386094960
it's just a way to measure FPS, nerds.
I am also from /g/ and there is no such thing as "debloat" that will make your game run faster.
unless you have some runaway process in the background... it just won't help.
I mean I understand, ARMA 3 guys hired priests, did blood sacrifices and whatnot to even reach 60 fps.... but it just won't work. If the game and the engine suck, you can only do this much.

Unreal Engine itself is not bad, but they always rape it in a way that should never be allowed.
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>>386113646
Do you have a single fact to back that up my friendo
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>>386104472
sleep tight kitter
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honk
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>>386091512

The game only lags early game. If you wanna keep playing I suggest going off looting early and then moving on to late game lag free.

That being said man what a bunch of fucking retards, who breaks their own game like this??


Seriously disappointing that a game this popular cant keep up with its user base. Just hire more people, you can afford it, you need it. It makes me think they don't deserve their success with this title and I hope a team of more competent people will compete with them.
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I don't know how Splash does it.
They've got interesting character and map designs and their games are overall very good. (Brink excluded, that shit was hotmess at the start)
Then they just drive it to the ground as if on purpose.

Splash should just make games and sell it to someone else immediately after.
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>>386094805
>1080p
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>>386092181
>Perfect Dark Zero shilling
What?!
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>>386091512
overwatch
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>>386110001
Your brain is like a biscuit after a long voyage
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>>386108832
holy shit
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>>386105771
Stop being mad.
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>>386106346
>a "culturally diverse" community like TF2 and DotA 2
what?
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>>386091512

Killed it multiple times,from the third dlc,to GU36 and GU47,now with GU73 and also in the past when PVP loot/marks were locked beind a wall of replay badges,

Yet /co/ and other capeshit faggots are still spending a fortune on scamboxes keeping the game afloat
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>>386113459
shit, thanks for reminding me.
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Do the devs honestly want this game to go professional?
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>>386119618

Before TF2 went F2P it was mainly white dorks from 'murrica and yurop that played it. Now it's infested with third world shitskins who only trade digital cosmetics.

Before DotA 2 went F2P it was mainly white dorks from 'murrica and yurop that played it. Now it's infested with third world shitskins who only trade digital cosmetics.

Free to play + cash shops/microtransactions/digital cosmetics is the death knell of any online multiplayer game, regardless of genre. The hordes of uneducated slimy beaner children and slant-eyed chinks devour the community of every game that goes free to play and eventually make it unplayable.
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didn't really believe in shilling till i read through this thread
>i-i made my money back
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>>386120264
>death knell
>both of those games still going strong despite years of monetisation
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>>386097564

>nobel price winner fails to understand that different surroundings produce different people

I don't accept what some Africans do to each other on daily basis but you gotta remember that these are people who have been raised in shit conditions and possibly by shitty people.

The odds are that they've been brainwashed by warlords and weaponized since their birth. It's a vicious cycle which takes a long time to break and you have to start at the top of the chain of command and gradually continue downwards to destroy the war culture.
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>>386102753
you don't get money in your pocket

it goes into your steam account to buy more games

fucking retards
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>>386120352

>"""going strong"""

If you think the modern communities of TF2/DotA 2 are ANYTHING like the communities from when they weren't free to play, you're mentally deficient.
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>>386120840
You mean they're bigger? Oh no.
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>>386120264
> Before DotA 2 went F2P it was mainly white dorks from 'murrica and yurop that played it

But DoTA2 was ALWAYS F2P?

You have a point about TF2. You can mark the decline in community with the F2P announcement.
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>>386120723
Nope, they're just niggers
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>>386120724
If you have enough steam money theres ways to turn it into real money, but at that point your basically asking to get scammed
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>>386121014

DotA 2 wasn't always F2P. You needed an invite back during the beta.
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>>386121072

No, you are completely ignoring what I've just said.

When you combine dryness, famine and dumb people someone will see it as an opportunity. There's a man pulling string behind every shitty town in Africa, mark my words.

Also, those people that are mentioned in that text probably think that what they're doing is acceptable because they've been conditioned to it for centuries because of desperation. Of course it appears to us completely unacceptable but you can't expect a change to happen at the snap of your fingers. It takes generations for it to happen.

And Africa is such a huge place that it is incredibly hard to start such an operation because there's always the wiser" people who take advantage of uneducated people.
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>>386121178
and you couldn't buy the invite from Valve. By mid 2012 when they gave everyone in 3 or 5 invites for friends, literally anyone could get in.
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>>386120723
>niggers nigging in africa
>ITS THE EVIL CORRUPT WARLORDS FAULT!
>niggers nigging in america
>WHITE PEOPLES FAULT! POLICE BRUTALITY!
>niggers nigging in europe
>WHITE PEOPLES FAULT! NOT ENOUGH TOLERANCE!

at some point you just have to stop blaming literally everything else and look at the niggers themselves
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>>386091512
ITT
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The netcode and other buggy shit isn't the problem, that's to be expected of EA. The big problem is PU sucking streamer dick harder than a goddamn vacuum with the "no stream sniping" rule as if that could be fairly enforced.
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>>386121458
I'm saying it's better off to leave them to their own devices.
Niggers are literal subhumans who should not mingle or interact with actual people.
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>>386117495
nigger 1070 is a midrange card
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>>386092181
This board claims that literally every game is shilled. I started tuning it out when a bunch of chodes on here attacked anyone with a high opinion on Titanfall 2, a shill. It's a legit fun game that was an improvement over the 1st in every way.

>inb4 i get called a shill
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>>386091512
>bought the game for $30
>get at least a solid 200+ hours of playtime out of the game
>absolute blast to play with bros on discord
>sold my unopened twitch box for $36
>sold the new loot crates for another $18 so far
>will continue to sell everything else I get because I don't give a fuck about cosmetics
>mfw people tell me I "wasted money" on the game
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You'd think that they could take a very small portion of the 200 million something in sales to get a crack team of developers in their little office to fix their broken game. And I was saying this before the patch hit. But no, the dev is too busy being a little e-celeb on twitter and purchasing exotic windows for his mansion
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>>386104472
sleep tight kitter
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> bluehole
> good devs

pick one
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>buy it due to friends
>its okay
>devs are cancer and the community is retarded twitch people

I cant wait to refund once it leaves early access and still sell these useless clothing crates right now
made 15 dollars already and i get to get my 30 bucks back whenever it leaves EA
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is the twitch prime crate still available?
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>>386092231
AWS is notoriously unperformant if the conditions aren't quite perfect
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>>386125906
nope
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>>386097804
>not realizing p2lookpretty is p2w for the devs
Clearly you don't understand that cosmetics will keep a shit game afloat ala Overwatch. When devs see they can milk virtual clothing and plebs will keep sucking their dicks, why improve?

Its the reason why this game is still "early access"
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>>386092176
I just want sauce on that pic.
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>>386091512
As depressing as it is, they may still be more confident than TF2's devs.
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>>386125097
>I cant wait to refund once it leaves early access

u wot m8
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>>386098941
I want to fuck this Tanuki
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What's so fun about the game? Gunplay is shit, controls like garbage and runs like an alpha. Also it's not rewarding if you play solo, you literally spend 15 minutes gathering objects by yourself only to get fucked by parties.
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>>386121458

Africa is the naturally richest continent on earth, you fucking mongrel. Which basically makes all your arguments completely idiotic.
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>>386120331
Except I did make my money back, anon. And I'm having some fun playing the game. It's not a great game, but it is a good time waster for me.
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>>386103590
The whole point of early access is for devs to make money selling buggy, unfinished games. Being able to report and criticize the game for bugs should be part of the process but we have people like you trying to excuse it with early access.
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>kill another player
>get banned

>honk
>get banned
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>>386122038
This board has just turned into a shill board anyway. I'm here because i like to watch you fags argue with each other about which game should be paid the most attention.

>Splatoon 2!
>Dream Daddy!
>FFXIV!
>OVERWATCH!
>PUBG!
>FE HEROES!


Every single thread. It's all angles.
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>>386126797
You mean that country with about no livable land thats in constant flux, making development of civilization near impossible?
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>>386121584
WE LITERALLY TOLD YOU FROM THE START THAT IT WOULD BE ULTRA POPULAR FOR 5 MONTHS AND THEN IMMEDIATELY CRASH AND BURN JUST FUCKING WATCH IT IT'LL BE GLORIOUS
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>>386126989
What will it be next? Talk while a streamer is talking, then get banned?
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>>386122672
>exotic windows

kek
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>>386121584
You could replace the right side of this image with any popular f2p game and it would be the same. I come to /v/ to watch my hobby die slowly.
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>>386105821
>something is popular so it must be good
Herd mentality faggot. Don't think /v/ is the one crafting opinions
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>>386105821
>you went into the game wanting to hate it, your "experience" shows it, you didn't try to play the game, you only hate it because /v/ told you to

I've never seen anyone say this about any game who wasn't a complete fanboy. It's one of the most cliche arguments used to discredit dissenting opinions.
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>>386127617
He's right though. This game changes quite drastically depending on how you are as a player. It's why I don't take a single person complaining that the game is mostly camping seriously, because I have never camped before and I make top 10 consistently.
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>bought this monday, barely played at all
>first few days it was really shitty, stuttering like hell and every 2nd match I had to quit because the world would not render properly it was that laggy
>play tonight first time since patch
>barely any lag despite a lot of other people having issues
>take potshots at some fag running inside the safezone from 200m away
>hit him 4 times, see the blood and him going down
>teleports out of a bush next to me and oneshots me with a shotgun

Kinda wish I never gave this game a chance over the 2 hour period, Oceanic servers have all been good on every game I've played until this shitfest.
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>>386128054
He's not right at all though. "You only didn't like it because you went in expecting to dislike it" is one of the most meaningless, worthless attempts to discredit a dissenting opinion about a game. It's the same twisted logic that dictates if you played a game over X amount of hours the game is good an you MUST have liked it just because you played it that long. It's just retarded nonsense fanboys use to deflect criticism. Also from my experience and also watching other players who are much better at the game than I am, camping is clearly a necessary strat in a lot of rounds if you want to have a viable chance at getting a chicken dinner.
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>>386128336
It's a reasonable deduction though considering the other guy was bitching that he died once. It's a pvp game, you will die many times. It's not like that one death means the whole game is RNG based. In some instances there will be no way for you to survive due to RNG, but you have to keep in mind that YOU chose when to jump out of the plane, and where to explore first, where to move to next, etc. The % of scenarios where RNG is really to blame is small, like 10% of scenarios I would say, if that.

>camping is clearly a necessary strat in a lot of rounds if you want to have a viable chance at getting a chicken dinner.
Wrong. Camping does not increase your chances whatsoever, unless you are an absolutely shit player. I can get to top 10 with 8+ kills consistently by dropping into high loot areas and also get there by camping with 0-2 kills. Guess which one I have way more fun with? Death count will be increased if you go the former but high risk high reward is how this game works. Deal with it.
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>>386128683
>It's a reasonable deduction though

Stop reading there. "You only hate the game because you went in wanting to hate it" is not and will never be a reasonable argument against someone's opinion. Post discarded and incinerated.
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>>386128871
In this case it is a reasonable argument though, because of how fucking WRONG you shitters are about the "necessity of camping". Now fuck off if you don't want to actually read and discuss anything.
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>>386128336
That is how that X hours logic works at all.

The vast majority of games these days are 8 hours long, usually less. If you couldn't be fucked to play half that why would I listen to what you have to say?
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>>386091512
Probably already posted but pic related:
>Mercy buff
>Roadhog Nerds
>Devs listen to whiney retarded casual players rather than comp players
>Dive meta or loss
I loved season 4. Loved triple tank/deathball. There was room to do unusual comps. Now it's Winston, dva, mercy every fucking game and if not you lose. Shitty fucking death to a decent game.
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>>386091512
seems fixed now
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>>386129771
*Roadhog nerfs. Fuck auto correct.
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>>386129339
It was never a reasonable argument and there's no discussion to be had with shitters like who resort to "you wanted to hate it" fanboy rhetoric because you're WRONG. Sorry nobody bothered to read through your nonsense talking points, t
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>>386091732
Good post
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>>386092350
>>386097191
but pubg is objectively a good game
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>absolutely hated the concept about crates gun skins and shit when they first introduced it to CSGO in 2013
>accumulated so much shit, made more than my money back on the game plus a few dollars to waste on keys, shit was gay, never got anything good but at least I never spent any actual money on it
>years later, a bunch of shit from the first dozen crates that were so ordinary at the time valve wouldn't let you sell them because you would physically debit your steam wallet are now selling for between $5-8 a pop
>raining money bitches

If only this game won't be dead within a year it would almost be wise to stockpile all dem crates for the future.
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