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Battle Music Sucks

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>Battle themes are the most obnoxious and overplayed song in any video game
Prove this wrong /v/. You can't. Doesn't help your case that many games have literally one battle theme spread over 60+ hours
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>>386067021
Mainline SMT games prove you wrong
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>>386067123
prove it. post clips.
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>>386067775
You can look them up in youtube, you lazy piece of trash
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>>386067021
isn't the case with Yakuza 0 since the battle music changes as u progress through the story.
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>>386068082
those tattoos look fucking awful
why do people buy these games ?
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devil survivor literally had 3 battle themes. and they were amazing

https://youtu.be/phgSTsVJEfU
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>>386068390
>i don't like the tattoo so the game has to be bad overall
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>>386067021
https://youtu.be/CuG4Mst-DS8
Only if they have a really stand-out melody. And if you fuck up the intro, you fuck up the whole song. Prime example here. Its usually alright if its just a regular song.
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>Playing games with only 1 battle theme

If you're gonna play jrpgs you should expect that. Maybe you should find some games with better OSTs.
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>>386067021
Bayonetta proves you wrong.
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>>386068390
Thats just yakuza shit. That's how it is. Its normal they put it in the game about yakuza. Such a little detail shouldn't trigger you.
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>>386068390
>tattoos
>why do people buy these games?
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>>386067021
ffxiv has a different battle theme for every big boss and each of their phases, also the normal battle theme changes based on your location. the regular dungeons also have different battle themes as well. it's pretty dope, there's like 70 battle themes
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>>386067123
This, SMT 4 in particular has multiple battle themes that are all excellent.
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>His game doesn't change battle themes as the plot advances to show how much more is on the line
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>>386069074
>Final battle theme is a mix on the battle themes from the beginning of the game
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>>386067021
Stop playing Japanese games.
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>>386067021
You know, you don't need to attach some poor bait to have a battle theme thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddlhTXqIrv0
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>tfw you get far enough in an Etrian Odyssey game for the second battle theme to take over
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>>386069238
https://youtu.be/2yX4h8Agi7U
This gave me some hard chills the first time
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>>386069074
Breath of Fire 4 here, we got that shit. What uuup!
>Early game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WdibZ37hdw
>Late game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCSAqplG8Jg
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>>386067021
>He plays games with less than ten battle themes
Will musiclets ever learn?
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>>386067021
I can prove it wrong by disagreeing with the statement.
What is it with the userbase on /v/ being impatient, easily irritable, and constantly requiring change and new things?

Maybe videogaming isn't for you.
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I never got sick of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPYki-9eO4Y
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>>386069350
God damn... I have the vaguest memories of playing Ultima VII way back in the day on my grandma's computer, but I only really got to actually understand what I was doing when it was already too late and all that was on offer was Ultima IX... Ew.

I wish I could have experienced the series in its heyday.
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This is great fuck off
https://youtu.be/FdlqmU0mXKs

Also,do rythm games count?
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>>386067021
This is why more games need to do what Atlus does and put in anywhere from 3-12 different songs for just normal encounters.
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a best coming through

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk5oSZ1NrcQ
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Persona 4 had a really good battle theme on the whole, but in the actual battles it starts at the most annoying part.
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>>386067775
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M7PDKYOF3Nk
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More games should be like atelier and change the battle music every in-game year or have a music pack dlc that lets you change town/battle/boss/travel bgms from a selection of almost every game in the series

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pew-J76NJV0
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>There's multiple battle themes chosen at random
>Defeat a boss and it's battle theme is added to the random battle themes
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>>386069074
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_Q0QhVRKec
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0m6qp5A2ibs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJxvvdf0G2k

AHHHHHHHHHH
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>>386069968
this is what I loved about 5
no BABYBABYBABYBABY
no I WAKE UP
just some music. the lyrics come in a little bit.

I also love that when you're going in for the treasure the music doesn't stop for battles, it just plays constantly.
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it's easy, just make the song not suck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLBAFJWbd30
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>>386069765
Pic related is honestly still my favorite "open world" RPG to date followed by 7 and 5
It's completely worth it to go back and play em, however I remember liking 6 back in the day but I tried getting into it recently and I just can't, wrestling with the interface was just too much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2MZMZNObnM
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>>386070530
Name 273 greek tragedies where this happens
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>>386067021
Pokémon has great battle-themes.
Other than that I mostly agree.

Boss themes are never ever good, except for in SHMUPS.
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>>386071354
>Boss themes are never ever good
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>>386071354
The opinion of anyone who likes shmups is irrelevant
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>almost 100 posts
>nobody mentions undertale yet
Holy shit V is full of red.dittors
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>>386067021
>all battle music is shi-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTj4n0L9Uh0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHpzhJ5O2Cs
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>>386071646
the fact nobody mentioned undertale means they aren't saying it is good you fucking mong
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@386071646
Fuck off back to Tumblr
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcM_JrdSJSU

Never gets old, always gets me hyped up.
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>>386071456
Post one.
Protip: You can't

>>386071536
Play Jamestown and Hydorah right now.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfu0XBf8kmk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szujsd-nLSw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGw5kwHl_LU
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>>386067021
You're just listening to the wrong themes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIlJsCBEhSY
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>>386069537
It's good, but I think the 1st one has a catchier theme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgdP7NW9uJY
Both have a very satisfying victory jingle.
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>>386069074
SaGa Frontier 2 and Unlimited Saga both do this
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>>386072362

I just wanted to post this
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwR85Nfs7Sg
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>>386072072
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51PjXPBPWco
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jywr3xVreXk
Anything by Kenji Ito or Masashi Hamauzu is going to be a 10/10 in the battle theme department.
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>>386072721
Okay, those sound great, but they don't sound like battle themes at all.
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>>386071679
SaGa is pure ludo, the fact that you get an average of 15 battle themes per games ranging from jazz to prog is just the cherry on top.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ5vcW_tu-g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iE9m74Xhq5Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAqB1lOiH6A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFnaRI0qItg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSqgtWImQ5Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPC63TtQtjQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWvEsYnPojE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48nrLP--fB8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jhMLAm-Zoo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e74h3taAPpU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snEzG_Hxdfg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ekiz0YMNp7A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElrkGHTMnAs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k1OsApDSIw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x583lF_Mg2A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhztA293JxY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPbiymVrOCw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsNSby4uNyY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFr212tZg78
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyZHJfcE4bY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mmd7NdjIvsY&list=PLUDqa6qgNinzbfdSXtus4oNKklx1JOcfh&index=4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0Vr2ySOOGI&list=PLUDqa6qgNinzbfdSXtus4oNKklx1JOcfh&index=17
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f03L2fAKS9g&list=PLUDqa6qgNinzbfdSXtus4oNKklx1JOcfh&index=20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQugYNKeecY&list=PLUDqa6qgNinzbfdSXtus4oNKklx1JOcfh&index=30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rz-Sq2zUYn4&list=PLUDqa6qgNinzbfdSXtus4oNKklx1JOcfh&index=31
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95h-M13leKQ&list=PLUDqa6qgNinzbfdSXtus4oNKklx1JOcfh&index=32
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJ4QtN6aam8&index=34&list=PLUDqa6qgNinzbfdSXtus4oNKklx1JOcfh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2GGtMVyxJg&index=36&list=PLUDqa6qgNinzbfdSXtus4oNKklx1JOcfh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoyzQrI187Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AndxKsItEvA&index=4&list=PLyXPC3SMNcQSEVStSxFcxnNeDJ9DGUj_X
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m8kx9RtkWc&index=5&list=PLyXPC3SMNcQSEVStSxFcxnNeDJ9DGUj_X
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>>386072843
How about this then
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0Vr2ySOOGI
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>>386072950
Jesus fuck anon don't post that much concentrated SaGa in one thread, you might kill someone
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>>386067021
OP confirmed for having never saw it coming
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>>386072994
Again, sounds sweet, but it doesn't sound like a battle theme.
It sounds like background music for Castlevania.
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>>386067021
no shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlNa7RQju7Y
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>>386073154
Okay well what do you think a battle theme should sound like
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>>386071679
I really like Trails battle themes desu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHo86x7jLWM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_WfQ_JsDq8
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Some games have multiple depending on the area.

I think we can all agree that shit's the best.
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>>386072072
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCl1gwX_CVA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fHPs58tKXQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2Rugr05FMM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jaqpQNjJLc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7DASgD3_p8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGtnBnmJ8MA
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>>386073137
I actually had to contain myself and not do a second post.
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>>386073260
3 second loop of simple drums
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>>386067021
I like how the 3DS Fire Emblem games handle it.
Each map has two tracks, which are different arrangements of the same song, and the track that plays switches depending on if you're in battle or not.
Do any RPGs do this?
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This might be my favorite battle theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_WfQ_JsDq8
Its catchy, not overbearing and never gets old
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Why hasn't anyone mentioned Earthbound? It has loads of battle themes and a great soundtrack overall.
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>Game transitions between normal and battle versions of the area theme.
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I'd be interested to see more games do what Rebel Galaxy did and just license a shitload of music from a specific genre. The option to add in songs of your own straight into the game's music files was also great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6iK0meHL0g
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>>386073546
Here you go
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zh5uOk4P7Ko
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>>386069409

Breath of Fire 4's battle/boss music changes depending on whether you're in the Eastern or Western part of the world, so that doesn't count.
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>>386069926
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuEKUtxhP08

this was always my favorite. feel like a hunter.
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>>386067021
>last surprise
>bad
Ohoho.
Well Kingdom Hearts blows your arguement out of the water nigga. Every fucking world gets its own combat theme.
Unless you just want music requests
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>>386067021
YOULL NEVER SEE IT COMIIIIIIING
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pU3pTyh_nEw

The Witcher 3 had an incredible variety of battle themes. Helps that slavic wails are pretty unique to vidya music.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dghlAQDQneU
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>>386070948
>tfw you time the chorus to the all out attack screen
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I liked how Tales of Hearts R had multiple normal battle themes that changed with major plot points, with the songs getting more dramatic near the end of the game. Don't get me wrong, it was completely bog-standard JRPG on all other aspects, but at least that ensured that you never got sick of the battle music. Other games should copy that thing more often.

Also, it's very possible that other Tales games do that too, but I wouldn't know because I haven't got enough time to play the others yet.
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>>386073587
I'm pretty sure Phantasy Star Online did.
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>>386069370
Fuck yeah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaXo2qZ9xJY
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With the amount of body part clicks to get it right I'd sure as hell call this a battle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWpZC1bKfX8
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>>386073694
I don't know, but I should have.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=204BDmIg7B4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JU__bc58oXo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrvbsNlOtoA

Though, while I love Earthbound, I think Mother 3 did the generic enemy battle themes even better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFDdIiN01BY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KIDtrS9VDM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsvL7s8EBFQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufYfYIplTGE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nUKvT12gO4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCvPA7LtOmw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QI3iJ_J-Sa8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmFgfxXRy-Y
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>>386074132
It also had multiple boss themes that depended on the boss encounter. DESU the soundtrack wasn't that great on itself, but avoiding repetitiveness is a big merit on itself.
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>>386073787
Yup, there we go.
That sounds like battle music, and absolute shit.
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Ok I aint listening to all this crap
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>>386074549
What about this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLbULEiuFgo
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>>386074549
SaGa has something for everyone
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>>386067021
Play more games. Some have multiple battle themes like the MOTHER series and the SMT series.

Some even use it in a really cool way. In Breath of Fire IV has a Western and Eastern continent. Depending on which one you are on a different regular and boss battle theme play.
In the Eastern continent this plays
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5ayyi5_h2o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCSAqplG8Jg
While in the Western continent these play.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGoYlIeachE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WdibZ37hdw

It's really cool and shows how diverse the continents are.
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>>386074549
Fuck off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jaqpQNjJLc
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>>386074419

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVcyZ_TtLhI

This was my absolute favorite.
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Funnily enough I never got bored of Persona 5's battle theme. I just kept jamming with it all the way to the end.
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>>386074646
Would be objectively better if all games just didn't have bad songs.

>>386074635
The battle-sounding bits are crap, the rest sounds like an adventure theme.

>>386074723
Pretty cool, but it sounds more like a credit roll than any battle theme.
Seems to be the case for many jayurpugurs.
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>>386074745
Didn't include it because it's a boss battle theme, but yeah Santuary Guadian is fantastic. I love the eerie undertones.

On a similar note.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gYubMyXzSg&
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>>386074101
>Boss fight
>Blooming Villain starts playing
>All out attack lines up with 1:10
>MFW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Imbw-fj8coU
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>>386074942
So what exactly is your point here? Any battle music that's actually good is bad because it's not "battle music" and anything that is "battle music" is bad? Do you have any examples of battle music that is both battle music and good?
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>>386074942
Define 'battle sounding'.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDPPV5Xgzwc
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Needs more Spanish guitar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDTX3ZW57-o
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>>386075158
I did define it:
>>386073546

>>386075070
My point is that the type of music that falls under the genre "battle music" sounds like complete shit, and that in games where it sounds good, they've just swapped it with a different genre of music because they realize how shit battle music sounds.
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NOT EVEN A DISTANT LAND
WE'RE STUCK ON A WHOLE DIFFERENT PLANET
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePypW6n1egQ
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>>386075371
Your point is retarded.
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>>386067021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80XAJKqRU9k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coGVpUFf9LY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZWHXrE0-iw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZBoiW460nU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G1ob5jnuSo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1Qkzj5bStU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL4RBZV7Wjc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8L2TsEp-Nxw
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>>386068390
you need help.
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>>386075446
My point is objective truth.
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>underrated battle themes
Alright
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3VW9ep3gDc
The only issue with this one was that the regular stage music was so good you never fucking hear it 80% of the time unless puzzles or platforming.
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>>386075506
Okay, kiddo.
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>>386075546
Glad we could come to an agreement.
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>>386075371
Battle music isn't a musical genre, and why does it matter what genre of music plays during a battle if it's actually good? The vast majority of battle music doesn't fit your arbitrary definition, so maybe you should update it and just enjoy the fucking music instead of complaining for no reason.
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>>386075591
Yes, I too am glad we agreed that you're a retard with shit taste and don't actually know what music is.
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>>386075371
>3 second loop of simple drums
Oh shit, you were being serious. In that case, you're retarded. You've created this arbitrary distinction between battle music and battle music which you don't consider to be battle music. There is no real defined 'battle music' genre other than music used for battles, which all of the posted examples fall into.
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>>386075642
It is and it matters because I don't want shit pumped into my ears when I play games.
This shouldn't be hard to understand.

>>386075647
Ah, there seems to have been some miscommunication on my part.
I was under the impression that we had agreed that it is objective truth that battle music sounds like complete shit.
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>>386075813
>objective truth
Are you 10?
Do you even know what music is?
Do you even have ears?
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>>386075512
I've been watching Pokecapn's Let's Play of Sonic Unleashed lately, and I think it really would have been better if they had different battle themes for each level, or even have the normal stage themes keep playing, but with added instruments during battles.
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>>386075946
I feel like someone accidentally copied that one theme and pasted it over the rest during development and they just didn't want to rerecord them.
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>>386075813
>It is and it matters because I don't want shit pumped into my ears when I play games.
Okay well once again the vast majority of battle music doesn't fit your definition, so why is this a problem for you? We all agree that what you think is "battle music" sounds like shit, but thankfully there are very few examples of 3 second drum loops used as battle music.
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>>386076038
>there are very few examples of 3 second drum loops used as battle music.
Are there any songs where this is the case?
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>>386076036
Yeah, the jazz battle theme feels like it was made for the Empire City level specifically.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftyDZouqJ1Y
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>>386067021
Is Persona 4 Golden the only game smart enough to use different battle themes dependent on the player's actions before battle? A song won't get old if you know that you're the reason it's playing instead of an different one.
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>>386076189
I posted one earlier but that's all I got
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>>386076263
I've never played it. How does it work?
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>>386076263
The problem with that is that one of the songs is Reach Out to the Truth which most people will get tired of after hearing the first five seconds for the first time.
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>>386069370
>finish second stratum of EO3
>new music kicks in a stratum earlier than usual
>it sucks
>there's no third battle theme, you hear that one for the remaining 100 hours of the game
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>>386075946
Well I've been replaying it after my save was lost with a LLoD 5 years ago and I feel that it should've played during the "kill all enemies to procede arenas" and then during regular encounters with enemies outside of there then the stage music will play. That or yeah give each place their own battle themes, but keep this one to Empire City since it fits its jazzy theme already.
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>>386076038
99% of battle music is exactly like that, though?
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>>386076405
Post it again or direct me to said post.
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>>386076263
DDS1&2 has something kind of similar. Getting caught off guard and not being able to transform plays the first ~30 seconds of the battle theme while a normal battle just starts ~30 seconds into the song, and in 2 the berserk forms during high solar noise had it's own theme.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFhXPvElNZ0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4PCOAJ80lo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UItoY665T0A
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I disagree.
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>>386076795
>>386073787
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>>386076424
I think if you get a premtive strike or something you get one theme and if you get attacked or regular interaction with field enemy you get the other
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Posting best regular battle theme of all time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOC0ig2Rk1g
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>>386068559
bugs...
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I know /v/ hates Earthbound now because it's become a hipster icon but you gotta admit they did it right by having different battle themes based on the kind of enemy you're fighting.
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>>386076263

The Untold games add little riffs to the battle themes if you have initiative or get ambushed.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVSYSfHo-MI

>>386077407
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmsgOucrwCg
>Earthbound is pretty archaic in design at some points these days
>Still pretty damn good
>Hipsters praise it like it's a 10/10 game when that's only correct for Mother 3
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>>386077993
Man, I wish the Jeanne fights weren't basically held hostage at the end of levels and minigames

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76euOHOxNfY
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>>386078203
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV3wFRy23cY
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>>386067021
Actually it's the complete opposite. If it weren't for the glorious battle music in difficult games like Ys, Etrian Odyssey and Soulsborne bosses, I would probably have killed myself trying to get through them.
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>>386078296
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6z-UuwnJ90
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3VW9ep3gDc
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>>386077076
That's pretty good, but my vote goes to FFX
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C34BzC7rnos
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>>386078591
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phs3dWe44Rc
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>>386078825
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvWAjpX1y8I
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>>386079256
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BAcyyGXzIE
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>>386079431
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAeeCdCSMQg
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>>386079613
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbcRTZTrBf8
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>>386079767
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UncMG67UlLA
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let me save this thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCvYVL1FySc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p_SFBS-UCc
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>>386080010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtZ8HYIaqhM
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>>386080160
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuBp7364saI
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>Fighting the postgame boss.
>Just reuses one of the other boss themes.
>Deal enough damage to it.
>Second phase starts and its unique theme kicks in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_0TeykT5NA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiFQJgCREmY
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>>386067021
You never see it coooomiiiiiiiing
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>>386080406
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU4TJuxaJ28
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>>386067021
Your postis ironic because "last surprise" never gets old
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