Persona 3

borger

Being able to choose skills inherited through fusion.

being able to fug the teacher

>>386050707
Fucking this

Make it an actual good game.

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>>386050276
Agreed.

>>386050593
Agreed

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cuck other people

How about fixing the terrible grind in The Answers.

ability to control party members

remove stamina bullshit

remove main character death = game over

make tartarus not boring as fuck/the only actual content in the game

maybe just develop a persona 6 instead of remaking horse shit

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>>386050164
The ability to hang out with ladies without it being an auto-relationship?

P3's MC was a whore.

>>386050164
Persona Collection with PC release when?
SEGA pls

More things to do in paulownia mall besides movies, photos, and kareoke

>>386051202
dayuum. I wonder what junpei said in p3p if you were playing femc

>>386051197
>ability to control party members
AI-controlled party members would be fine if the AI was actually halfway decent.

Itll be a permanent PS4 exclusive

Thats more than enough for me

>>386051197
>remove main character death = game over
Isn't that still a thing in Persona 5?

Feels like they should really ditch that mechanic if they're going to keep throwing in generic enemies with random insta-kill moves.

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>>386050164
>keep no party control
>selectable fusion skills
>in-game explanation for tired
>more options in the overworld
>keep the difficulty and make it harder
>tarter sauce is now a actual dungeon than randomly generated floors
>more than just one battle theme

>>386051431
AI was pretty good if you knew how to work with Tactics.

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>>386051431
But Marin Karin.

>>386051283
SEGA hates games, they wont do anything you actually approve of.

>>386051519
At least in P3's case, it made sense as the embodiment of Death was sealed inside of Door-kun.

A party members would be good if it was like FFXII

>>386051283
>>386051596
Who gives a fuck, you can just emulate it anyway. All of them.

>>386050164
First DAN didn't really confirm p4 remake. I mean it's possible but not in the near future.

>>386051680
I already own all of them. I'm just saying that whatever logical thing you expect from SEGA isn't going to happen because they're all fucking insane.

>>386050164
In 2012 I came to terms with the fact that Persona and SMT were becoming a turbo normie series and we'd probably see a bunch of dogshit shoehorned into the games, but this honestly still surprises me

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anyone else romanced this brown goddess?

>>386051718
>First DAN didn't really confirm p4 remake
Dude, DAN came out 3 years after Golden.

>>386050164
Let me fuck Bebe

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>>386051592
Was Marin Karin really such an issue? I only had Mitsuru use it about 5 times when I played.

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>>386051769

>>386050164
>Network fusion & strengthening fusion
>An in-game fusion chart
>Entire battle turn order (didn't it already have this?)
>Part time jobs where you can raise stats
>Maybe something like P5's date spots, where you can open up new locations that have stuff
>A nerfed version of Baton Pass
>KEEP TACTICS
>KEEP FUSION SPELLS
>KEEP WEAPON TYPES

>>386051718
>Persona 4 Golden
>released 2012
>DAN
>release 2015

>>386051519
Having MC die = game over is fine since the game gives you lots of homunculus. They should give you a option for those want it and those that don't.

>>386050164
FeMC being canon

>>386051798
I mean HD remake not Golden

>>386051718
You're right but it was a bit different with P4, P4G wasn't that old at the time + they were still milking P4 in general at that point.

Whereas P3 getting anything at all completely came out of nowhere.

>>386051754
No shit, detective.
http://www.pso2.com/us/

>>386051769
that reminds me, I hope they make it so I don't have to start her S Link just to get access to the Tower. I'm a turbo autist about S Links being completed. I don't need to get them all maxed out, but if I start one I have to finish it so my end game s link menu is completely maxed

SLinks with male party members. This was in P3P but you had to play as a girl IIRC. Just take those and replace some of the shittier SLinks, make them thematically appropriate if you're going to be autistic about arcana bullshit.

>>386051197
I disagree with the first 3. The last one is bad. I'm fairly sure I dislike you immensely.

>>386051530
The in game explanation for tired is that doing shit during the midnight hour is exhausting. As they get higher level they're able to ignore it for longer.

Gay options.

>>386051804
No it's a meme

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>>386052072
This.

>>386051804
Maybe vanilla P3? In FES getting my teammates to do what I wanted was never an issue.

The ONLY time I ran into AI trouble was in The Answer, where Mitsuru would waste turns by doing Mind Charge followed by Ice Break or something.

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>>386050164
HD sex scene with Yukari.

>>386050164
Just rework Tartarus completely. Most of it, if not all of it, should be properly designed instead of being procedurally generated.

Baton Pass (except without the damage/stat boost) and mid-battle party member swap retained.

>>386052139
That reminds me, more gay options for FeMC than just Aigis and optionally Elizabeth.

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>>386051801
>let me fuck the weeb

>>386050164
Honestly Persona 3 FES is absolutely fine for me. But if it's gonna happen then I guess...

>FIX. SUMMER.
>Make Revolver Jesus less of a pushover
>tartarus enemies give slightly more exp. no one likes tartarus
>replace the old dorm recordings with new ones, we've already seen that shit
>add in some dialogue or something so Ikutski's sudden villain revelation makes sense and isn't completely retarded

>>386052252
>properly designed instead of being procedurally generated.
You mean like, levels of it having a distinctive appearance like P4, or throwing in new mechanics every section like P5?

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Let me have best assistant.

>>386050593

This, you end up reseting the fusion till you get what you want anyway.

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>>386052408
>replace the old dorm recordings with new ones, we've already seen that shit
How about just add more instead of taking any out?

>>386050164
Just give me a version of FES where you can control your party members.

This is the sole reason I haven't beaten P3, because P3P is dogshit, but FES doesn't let me control party members which makes the gameplay INSUFFERABLE.

>>386052047
>The in game explanation for tired is that doing shit during the midnight hour is exhausting
Was this ever said in game? I know it logical makes sense but I would like short snippet of it.

>>386051191
The Answer actually had easier grinding than The Journey. Irony is The Answer is basically 3.5 and was closer to Persona 4's grinding.

>>386052665
The party mentions a few times that trekking through Tartarus is incredibly exhausting.

>>386052628
Just tell your party members what to do it's not that hard. Also what determines 99% of fights in P3 is what Personas Minato has. I swear P5fags were all dropped on their heads

>>386051982
Did you miss the 4 fucking movies with ridiculous animation budgets and all the fucking stage adaptations and concerts? P# didn't get milked as hard as P4 in the west, but over in japland they milk the shit out of everything

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>>386050164
The option to save beanieman and show that shorts wearing shota faggot what's what without being femc.

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>>386050164
Be able to equip weapons and armor on other party members without having to talk to them but still allow reactions like when you equip Yukari with the slutty outfit

Make party member stats more accessible so you can compare items more easily when you're buying gear at a shop

More variety of enemies

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Being able to take my girl of choice on a date even after maxing her S.Link.
Being able to be just friends with other girls.
Having extra battle dialogue from Fuuka when I romance her.

>>386052628
Come on it's not that hard. You are so spoiled by Persona 5 and Golden (btw was a remake of Persona 4 with better everything) that you do not even know FES is the updated version of Persona 3 which included the answer, more music, and outfits for the characters. The grinding is a bit hard in the beginning but in the middle and the end you get a ton of experience points.v

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>>386052665
It's mentioned during the first day you get inside Tartarus.

Give me a reason to use Koromaru, Ken, and Shinjiro so they don't feel like dead weight.

>>386051197
>remove stamina bullshit

This is what I'm most worried about. Without a hard lock on time spent in dungeon the optimal way to play the game is to do every dungeon in the minimum number of visits. This is also not fun and you get 2 hours of crawling then 2 hours of text with no balance.

The worst bit of P3 was endgame where you finished Tartarus then had weeks to get overlevelled or do nothing. The worst shit in P4 was levelling the fox then compacting all your dungeon experience into single sessions.

>>386053461
reminder that Ms. Toriyumi thinly veils her autism when she's in public

>>386052831
>>386053318
Tactics don't work. They just don't fucking work, and your teammates can't hit weaknesses either.

I know that FES is the updated version, I don't care.

And don't tell me to grind when the game says "lol ur tired" and forces me to stop grinding and waste more time trying to get rid of this retarded status effect. Literally a big "STOP HAVING FUN" brick wall that hits you out of nowhere.

P4 and P5 don't force me to stop playing arbitrarily, and they don't cause me to lose battles because my teammates are too retarded to understand the most basic "hit all weaknesses then AOA" tactic.

Fuck P3.

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>>386053381
Damn it's been forever since I played P3 so I guess I forgot.

>>386053898
Tactics do work you're just too autistic to learn to use them

>>386050164
Control Party Members

Extra waifu social link, probably some snobby tsundere that gives Yukari a run for her money.

Baton Pass, or something new like that in combat

>>386050164
>what quality of life improvements and so on do you want in it
for it to be on ps3 because I don't want to buy a ps4

>>386050164
>direct party control
There's bo need to make an already boring/slow genre even more boring/slow, there are VNs if you are into that.
>remove weapon types for MC
The guy is already too much of a special snowflake, and it was only needed to make up for the shitty AI
>being able to select skills during fusion
>people wandering into Tartarus
Gives you a reason to go back to that boring ass dungeon
>slinks for male party members
Because not having them was a terrible decision in the first place

>>386050164
I would Personally like

>Persona 5 engine to be used ( yes it may never happen but I am hopeful)
>3 new social links
>10 new tracks
>3 new events
>Being able to explore in a more open environment similar to Persona 4 and not have to choose where to go all the time
>Make it easier to control your allies
>Updated cutscenes, events and also battle animations
>Having your party level up on their own when they are able to spread out in the dungeon fighting monsters
>Better fusion system like in Persona 5 and 4 Golden which had easier selections and automatic search. 3 was noted as being way to random sometimes and difficult.

That is all I can think of for now.

>>386050164
>So now that a Persona 3 remake is pretty much all but officially confirmed
No it's not.

deleting the answer from existence

>>386053984
Then why when I tell my teammates to attack the enemy and exploit weaknesses they fucking WASTE MY ITEMS instead?

remove moon
add in whatever the fuck you want

>>386054350
Because you don't scan

>>386053898
>Not having multiple Personas for your MC to cover every weakness
Must suck to be bad at P3, huh? And if you examine the enemies more often than not the AI will attack their weakness.

>>386052408
What's wrong with summer?

Rework the Nyx Avatar fight. While it wasn't the worst fight, it dragged on waaaaay too long. if they at least reduced the health of arcana's 1 - 12 (and added some visual differences like in the movie), I'd be fine.

>>386053898
Tactics work perfectly, you just don't know how to use them.

>too retarded to understand the most basic "hit all weaknesses then AOA" tactic.
Thats because that is the only tactic that matters in 4&5. In P3 rushing to AOA is not always the best decision

>>386053428
You basically get it done in two days or less and then focus on everything else. It's not that hard. Imagine Persona 4 where you had a week sometimes to get it done.

>>386054558
Yeah but that removes all the challenge and need for you to manage your time, and that's one of the better parts of P3

>>386054206
>remove weapon types for MC
Fuck no, there are 3 physical damage types and removing them only nerfs physical damage.

I get why people wouldn't like tactics but why the hell would you want to remove options

>>386053898
>Being this dumb
>Not analyzing weaknesses and trying to find them

It's basic 101 JRPG logic. Find a weakness and exploit it. Once it is found via a party member or a certain attack the party will use it and exploit it.

>p3p is too easy because of direct party control
>tactics is perfect though
You can have one or the other.

>>386054476
Not him, but personally it felt wasted especially with mandatory summer classes and a vacation, where almost nothing happened besides meeting Aigis and picking up girls, that ate up all most of the Summer.

>>386054407
>cast zio on enemy
>it falls over
>I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S WEAKNESS IS UNLESS MITSURU SPENDS FIVE HOURS STARING AT IT

I beat the first block without ever using scan, it's fucking worthless. Stopped playing at the second block because after spending literal weeks unable to explore Tartarus because either my teammates were taking a fucking vacation or I was LULZ TIRED, I wiped to a single beetle because my teammates are too retarded to actually hit the enemy's weakness.

>>386054418
Would be a viable option if you could choose inherited skills.

Fuck P3, it's literally unplayable to anyone used to good RPGs.

>>386053898
>>386054350
The way to get Tactics to work is to have Fuuka scan for nothing useful. This makes your teammates magically know what to use despite learning absolutely nothing about the enemy.

Yes, it's stupid.

>>386054657
You do know that the other characters have their own weapon types, right? Like, you could use them to exploit weaknesses instead of making MC a 15 year old weapon master for no reason.

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>>386054532
I'd settle for Nyx not being able to charm your party members and force hem to fully heal an hour's worth of damage.

Why would you play the game again if you've already finished it once? Especially since it easily pushes over 70 hours of a story you've already experienced?

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>>386054834
>beat the easiest block without using a core game mechanic
>complains that the game's shit when his strategy no longer work

>>386051804
I got more annoyed when people refused to heal me because I wasn't below a certain threshold. What would happen is someone would Megidolaon and the team gets knocked over. Anyone who isn't knocked over sees my HP isn't quite low enough to constitute healing. So they don't heal me. However, my HP is still low enough to get killed by one more Megidolaon. But I can't change their AI to fucking heal me while I'm getting knocked over repeatedly. So I die, because they can't see I'm getting stun locked.

Another is Mitsuru being retarded because someone is immune to pierce and resistant to ice. She stands there like a lemon going "I can't do anything". Fucking do something, it's resistant, not immune to ice.

It's been a few years since I played, but I think that was how it went down. I remembered being quite annoyed.

>>386054534
No, it's still almost always the best decision, you're just conditioned to not do it because the party member AI sucks ass.

>>386054690
No, you are wrong. Hitting an enemy with a weakness does not cause your teammates to target that weakness. Replay the game without nostalgia goggles.

>>386054958
Just don't make it a full heal. Make some bullshit reason like Nyx's hp pool is too big be insta-healed

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>>386054834
>TACTICS DON'T WORK
>Well if you scan them the AI will attack their weakness
>FUCK YOU AND FUCK P3 I DON'T NEED SCAN

>>386055091
No I replayed it a year ago, either you have the wrong party member in or you are trying to use the same party throughout the game without switching out to see what works. It's not that hard.

>>386055008
because i love the games. and technology these days will make it an even better experience. aren't reasons pretty obvious though?

MITSURU BEST GIRL

>>386055151
>tactics work but you need to do x and y and z
>and they will still make some dumb decisions prioritize status effect over healing hp
>what do you mean tactics isn't perfect?
>not one shooting every single mob with MC

>>386051202
>Junpei
>Homophobe
My man

>>386054838
I never even got Fuuka. Maybe if the game gave you her at the start it would be somewhat bearable, but Mitsuru's inability to do literally anything useful killed any enthusiasm I had for the game.

>>386055009
If that's a core game mechanic that only refuels my desire to never touch this piece of shit again.

And I haven't even gotten to how godawful the writing is. Holy shit it is terrible. If it gets rereleased they need to completely do-over the translation. But even then easily more than half the characters in the game are just cringey shit.

P3 is like a bad alpha build for P4. It's complete trash and it's only value is how it was used as a stepping stone to create a different game that's actually great.

>>386054834
lmao p3 is a simple rpg and you still suck

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>>386055426
>>386055392
>>386054834

>>386055284
I played it less than a year ago. You are objectively wrong, and I know this because that was the exact thing that made me to stop playing.

>>386055392
I briefly considered trying the game again and using a guide to run the whole thing as a solo character. That's the only way I could stomach it. But honestly I'd much rather replay P4 or P5.

>>386050164
I'm hoping Dancing Moon Night is a straight up retelling of P3's story but with dance battles instead of normal battles, honestly.

>>386055615
>You are wrong because I have no proof and you should believe me because I do not try anything new and experiment if nothing works out

Are you by chance Darksydephil?

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>>386050593
>not wanting to spend 30+ hours with online tools to fuse your perfect Orpheus Telos
Fucking casuals.

>>386055392
tactics work as intended for me, If I tell AI to attack same target they will. If I tell them to support they heal and buff. Previous anon's problem was that the AI wouldn't attack weaknesses, when in fact they do. You have to scan them like the game intended. I won't say it's without flaws, but that anon's issue with the tactics system is ill-founded.

>>386053461

CR subs

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>>386055836
>not spending 70+ hours to create ultimate element Messiah
Get on my level.

How exactly does this confirm a remake?

>>386055778
>no proof

My proof was I played the game.

>tell teammates to attack weaknesses
>cast zio on an enemy for a weakness
>Akihiko heals me
>full party wipe

Play the fucking game again you drooling retard. I know what happened in my game, thank you very much. You are completely fucking wrong and calling me DSP doesn't make you less wrong.

>>386054768
>ace every test
>lol you're dumb go to fucking summer school

I wouldn't mind it if it wasn't mandatory. If i had the choice to either slack off or work on my grades it would actually be pretty great.

>>386056061
Obviously, it does not confirm a remake. If you don't understand the concept of speculation, you can easily find out through google.

>>386056061
Not necessarily a confirmation, but they wouldn't let these new HD P3 models go to waste, would they?

Make that one boss a little easier

>>386051197
Persona 3 Portable does that.

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>>386056038

>not spending 400+ hours to create the ultimate Jack Frost

Make cream of tartar less boring, add in more varied randomization and maybe some new pre-made sections with a puzzle or two every 25 or so floors

Redo some of the S. Links to be deeper, more side characters

Smoother menus like P5

remix music and also keep originals as an option

FemC gets fixed and is referred to as female in the main story

>>386056185
Sure they would, they let the P4 ones go to waste.

>>386051804
It's a meme. The AI can be dumb sometimes but using tactics will never result in Marin Karin spam

>>386056587
They were running with a successful brand at the time. Persona 4 was already remade to death so there was no reason to go further with the models.

>>386052198
Is her hair clipping through her arm? Jesus Christ what a slut

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>>386051202
I miss these little chats

>>386051804
Just put the bitch on full assault and she'll never use it.

>>386050164
How is it confirmed?

>>386057204
P3fags are just shitposting as usual.

>>386050164
Redo all the shitty SLinks for MC. Fuck Kenji, fuck the bookstore owners, fuck Moon fatass, fuck Bebe. There's probably a lot more I'm forgetting too.

God, most off the SLinks were trash.

>>386057559
The waifus, Sun, monk, loli and hermit were based though

>>386050593
>>386052594
https://youtu.be/RHUUy2bbRxo

>>386057673
Let me not be forced into harem for waifus as well.

>>386057916
But that's the best part you pleb

>>386051804
It's not an issue

>someone who had Mitsuru in the party 100% of the time

Rebalance the answer and add the compendium to it.

>PS4
>Vita

They're still making Vita games?

>>386057980
Each Attendant only has one Compendium and Elizabeth probably doesn't want Aigis to overwrite anything Door-kun saved.

>>386058348
I hope so, i like my Vita.

>>386050164
Friendzoning like in P4/P5. Fucking everybody is cool but give me choice.

>>386053461
>Torumi decides to call herself Maya
>Now talks exactly like P2 Maya
N-NANI

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>>386055392
>tactics work but you need to do x and y and z
No, you just need to do x.

>>386058448
Then make Theo the assistant, it's not like his Compendium is filled with anything canon.

never played persona. which one should i play first /v/? every ps console is available to me

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>>386050707
agreed

>>386059219
Just play P5.

>>386059242
Why does the have Yukari's hair?

FeMC was the biggest quality of life changer, unless they brought her back none much would really matter.

i want to get molested and executed by Mitsuru

>>386058940
Or make it like in p4 where the girls know about it, but the protag is just too alpha for them to do something about it.

Cheating in p3 felt like abusing an exploit.
Cheating in p4 made you feel like a god

>>386056780
"Miracles like that don't happen, Fuuka"
"Fuck you door, yes they do."

>>386059219
P3 is usually agreed to have the best story and the worst gameplay (excluding 2, which is 100% not the first one to play)

P4 has workable gameplay but suffers from annoying party members. It is however, the best dating sim.

P5 has the best combat and obviously looks the best, but its story is lackluster.

>>386057352
>>386057204
People assume they're going to do something else with those new models

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>>386059313
They actually have different haircuts it's just Yukari's hair has slowly become more like hers as time went on.

>More Personas
>More Skills
>More Fusion Skills
>The ability to choose what skills a Persona inherits
>At least an optional alternative dungeon that isn't randomly generated
>Actual dungeons for Full Moon bosses
>Buffs to all Full Moon bosses
>Buff Takaya
>More varied Shadow designs at least
>Bring back the ability to use different weapon types
>Team skills
>More optional BGMs
>More optional events where you hang out with your dormmates
>More S.Link options, allowing you to choose one character to S.Link with for a given Arcana over another, kinda like the Sun in P4, with different bonuses for each.
>The option to somehow have the school festival go on. I dunno, maybe in subsequent playthroughs, Igor allows you a single wish for being such a cool guest, and you can use that wish to stop the storm from fucking everything up.
>More alt skins
>The option to actually hang out with Ryouji
>A stronger final boss
>More strong optional bosses
>The option to join the Boxing Club, Fencing Club or Archery Club

>>386050164
Persona 3 is gonna be a slot machine

Best ending themes? Hoshi to bokura to is too fucking good, something about it just evokes a strong response.

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>>386059541
>P3 is usually agreed to have the best story
Wrong.

>>386059642
It's impressive how Yukari doesn't even look like Yukari in P3's cutscenes.

NG+ runs are now retconed to be Door looking back on the past

>>386050593
This. Only critical improvement.

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>>386050164
to be able to tell all the subpar grills in that game to fuck off instead of getting raped by them.
To be able to tell all the shitty slink people to fuck off instead of sucking their cocks in fear of reversing the slink
Remove half the useless slinks no one cares about and add party members slinks
Be able to answer Akihiko where I've been

>>386059759
that's literally what he said

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>>386059219
The first one.

>>386059728
Memories of You is top tier. Nothing else comes close.

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>>386059219
Play 3Fes first, since their tactics system and different Once More system can be hard to get used to if you become accustomed to 4's (Play the Golden version), and 5's. Try to sneak in a playthrough of Persona Q after 3 and 4 if you can. It can get grating with the characters, but I found the gameplay to be good, better than 4's.

Persona 1, 2IS, and 2EP don't exist.

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>>386059728

>>386059970
But it's the most boring part

>>386050164
switch version pls. i've got a ps4 but i'll actually finish a portable jrpg.

>>386059728
P3 will always have the best opening and endings.

>>386059219
Start with 3 because if you play 4 or 5 first it's too painful to go back to

>>386056109
>Bitching about how hard everything is
>Blaming the game for your incompetence

Nice try DSP.

>>386059759
>not Innocent Sin

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>>386052537
Move aside, little boy

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>>386060476
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD87waPSvc4
Based

>>386057065
This, people that Bitch about it never bother to change commands to full assualt or try a different one.

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>>386060564
Get out.

>>386060476
>you can just play around these shitty mechanics
>a remake doesn't need to fix/polish them>everything is fine as it is
Why ask for a remake then? P3 fans so god damn retarded.

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>>386059642
>>386059762
Fell for the waifu bait.

>>386059219
In order

Persona 5 > Persona 4 Golden > Persona 3 FES.

>>386060564
>she couldn't trick Yu into dating her
>Yu thinks she's weird and/or crazy
Yu is too smart for this ho.

>>386060609
How can someone be this bad?

>>386060069
In terms of Persona, yes Memories of You is the best but this is objectively the best staff roll ever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ruqn1Lnexs

>>386060106
5 is the best introduction to the entire persona series and SMT series overall. They even allowed you to nogotiate with demons.

>>386061045
She's out of Yu's league to be honest.

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>>386060781
Isn't it your bedtime?

>>386060841
I didn't ask for one I just do not whine about it like you do and say the game is terrible.

>>386061119
Nocturne is 100% the best introduction because almost every game that came after is based off of its foundation.

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>>386060965
I want to go hang out with Yukarichi and Junpei.

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>>386061119
>5 is the best introduction to the entire persona series and SMT series overall.
>Not Nocturne

MARIN FUCKING KARIN

>>386061449
Of course it's not dumbass. Have you seen the casuals that play games now a days? They would cry about how hard Nocturne is when playing it. Persona 5 has similar puzzles and demon mechanics.
>>386061370
Persona 5 combines all the mechanics from Nocturne and the persona games in it.

>>386061209
>stalks Yu to the school
>out of his league
Yu sticks his dick crazy but he sure as hell won't date them.

>>386060609
Don't blame him.

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>>386061245
Isn't it time for your pills grandma?

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living with determination remix > memories of school > memories of you

>>386061119
P5 isn't a good starting point. It has lots of QOL improvements compare to a lot of other Megaten games. The best starting point for mainline would be Nocturne, Persona would P3, and DDS for other spinoffs.

>>386061328
Well, this thread is about things we want fixed in the remake, so Get off of your high horse.

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>Want female MC
>Know deep down they won't include her
When did Atlus start hating female player characters, around the time Persona became a harem simulator with different flavored waifus?

>>386061838
Yes it is, that's the point if you play Persona 5 you pretty much know the mechanics of Nocturne and the Persona series, it eases people into it. I have a feeling some people did not play Persona 5 or even notice this.

>>386061838
this, i started with p5 and when I tried p3 the difficulty curve was insane, grinding was also annoying

>>386050164
I'd hope for a possibly optional FES ruleset option where knockdowns take a turn to recover, split physical damage types, and that kind of thing. Other than that, more overworld stuff and side activities.

>>386061701
COMFIEST TRACK EVER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzRqtW1C0Zo

>>386062003
They realize there is no point, they know that jap women would rather play as a handsome guy rather than a girl.

>>386061686
Yeah, out of his league. As in Yu's league is made up enitirely of naive or vulnerable teenage girls (and he's good at slaying them so why not). It's why they soft replace Margaret with Marie for him since the latter actually fits what he goes for.

>>386062098
>Where have you been?

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>>386061875
Maybe you need to fix your attitude. Self deception is a bad habit to have.

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>>386062214

>>386062138
>Ai
>naive

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>>386062098
>not i never felt like dadadadandandan

>>386062287
FUCK YOU ASSHOLE
NOW GET READY FOR SOME TARTARUS BUTTHURT
AND PRAY THAT MITSURU BITCH ACTUALLY HEALS US

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>>386062086
>P3
>Grinding
?

>>386062031
Playing Persona 5 then playing Nocturne would be retarded as fuck for a newcomer. No selectable fusion skills, Negotiations are pure RNG, dungeons don't shit the bed. Nocturne and Persona 3 have a much better chance of easing you into the mechanics of Megaten.

>>386062003
It would be retarded of them not to include her on the dancing shit

>>386062260
And now you are just anime posting.

>>386062214
Been searching all along

>watch the live reaction to the Perusona Dancingu revealos
>crowd is silent when Yuka-tan and Stupei are doing their solo bits
W-who's da man...

>>386062458
Come facing twilight all alone

>>386050593
They better just let us choose all 8 skills this time and not the P5 system where you get to choose 6 Skills and then you have even worse RNG with power up fusions being forced to reload the entire game whenever you fail to get the last 2 skills on your dude.

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>>386062515
>those panties dropping when Door-Kun talks

>>386062515
Literally everyone else in the cast are more popular than those two, they should've gone with different characters.

>>386050164
>So now that a Persona 3 remake is pretty much all but officially confirmed

why? because they're making a dancing game from it, that means its definitely getting a remake...?

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>>386062438
They haven't included her in anything except some play or some shit where her name was revealed to be Kotone, why would they do it now?

>>386062086
Well Persona 3 FES was the start of the whole waifu dungeon simulator. And Persona 4 Golden made it better. I can see why he said that. I think it depends on the person.

Persona 5 is considered more balanced but fair difficulty Persona 4 Golden was easy, Persona 3 is hard but you need patience to beat it and to grind for at least 1 hour per dungeon and just fusion good monsters. Nocturne is a good point of entry but I think he fears the fact it may be too hard for newcomers and it may turn them off from Persona or SMT forever.

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>>386062652
>Literally everyone else in the cast are more popular than those two
You sure about that?

>>386057914
>Not including the part where you finally get the right skill but you've been spamming buttons so long you accidentally press back on it and lose it.

>>386062652
I have a feeling that's not true for Fuuka

>>386062515
japs can't handle junpei bantz
also yukari is the most cunt waifu between 3-4-5, not that it's a bad thing but people dont like her

>>386050164

>FeMC
>Junpei as a date option

please and thank you

>>386062715
>Persona 5 is considered more balanced
In what world is the game that isn't balanced around confidants such as being able to fuse any level Persona 'more balanced'? Persona 5 is the easiest because the game isn't balanced around any of the confidant links at all because the developers can't assume what confidants the player will have at any given time.
It's probably the second easiest in the series after Innocent Sin, at least P4 at Shadow Mitsuo.

>>386062432
Actually damn it you are correct. That is exactly what I did. I went Persona 4 Golden my first Persona game then went into Persona 3 FES then went to Nocturne. The great hint is to look at your weakness and your strengths on the monsters.

>>386062652
>>386062515
They would've actually killed the crowd if it was Door-kun/Akihiko/Mitsuru/Aigis

>>386062860
>can't stand to be rejected
no means no ok?

>>386051197
They can't ever make Persona 6 because they've said every Persona game needs to be signficantly better than last and the only way to make a game better than Persona 5 is to remake Persona 5 and cut Haru from it.

>>386062860
I'd like this but I'll kinda miss Chidori, she was pretty

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>>386062780
You would be right

>>386063051
Or they could make it an action game instead of a shitty JRPG.

I just hope this line is restored https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TeT1WwPR0U

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>p4

>>386063051
But if they were to remake P3 and give it P5 combat it would be leagues better than P5, what's your point?

>>386063003
Sorry. I never had to deal with rejection in my entire life.
Why can't every MC be as smooth as Yu?
Yu would've fucked Junpei right in the boi pussy.

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How much DLC do you guys think the Dancing games will have?

>>386063110
>action games are better than JRPG meme
Yeah I know everyone here loved FFXV.

>>386062515
>>386062652
Majority of the Persona 3 cast isn't that popular aside from Aigis and the Protagonist. Could have possibly shown Mitsuru and Akihiko instead but I don't even know how much of a difference that would have even made.

>>386063110
You could go further and go outside to do a proper physical activity instead of casual shit like video games too.

>they keep the Akihiko with Mitsuru's voice error

Door Kun will need a new haircut. His hair is too mid 2000s for 2018+

>>386052047
There's no reason not to have the ability to control party members considering how one of the P3 remakes already has that, not to mention the sequels that also have that.

>>386063229
>I never had to deal with rejection
You have to ask first.

>>386063229
His love of Chidori was part of character development, faggot. He literally still daydreams of marrying her two years later

>>386063208
They will have to remake the whole game if they want to fix its terrible pacing. They would also have to redo some slinks and make Tartarus less o a slog.

>>386063110
JoJo Eyes of Heaven proved that real-time combat based around summoning is absolute dogshit.

>>386063324
The pacing is fine they just need to add more stuff to do.

>>386063376
>Add more stuff to do
>Perfect all max slink run leaves you with about 3 free days the entire game.

>>386063051
They have never said that and it would be easy as fuck to make a better game than 5 considering it's lackluster plot and combat.

>>386063324
No, what that anon said was correct. P5 has terrible pacing too, entire weeks of doing fucking nothing even, that everyone conveniently ignores. If people are fine with it in P5 they'll manage with P3 as long as it looks new and shiny enough.

>>386062515
And the crown even cheered for Ryuji

Also bring back weapon fusion. I loved being able to make unique gear by using the nihil gear, as well as having persona's have their "hearts" that let them give items after reaching a certain level.

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>>386063441
>P5
>Lackluster combat

>>386063141
I want to Become a trap for her.

>>386063318
Nothing a good dicking can't fix. It would probably make Junpei less of a loser too.
I mean, it worked with Yosuke.

>>386063376
Agreed. More SOL events where you just fuck around with the group like in P4G

>>386063324
I won't be Person 3 by the end of all these changes.

>>386063376
>The pacing is fine
Nothing in the game happens until the Hanged Man fight, explain to me how that's fine pacing.

>>386063441
5's combat is the best in Persona. Expecting it to be as good as the rest of Megami Tensei or EO is stupid when you consider that people in this fanbase had trouble with the stealth segments.

>>386063606
You're ignoring a bunch of foreshadowing and character arcs

>>386063489
Theres nothing wrong with Ryuji.

Yusuke would have gotten a bigger reaction though.

>>386050164
They never did anything else with the P4DAN models, I don't know why you're assuming this will be any different.

>>386050164
Controllable party members with reworked combat so that it's not overpowered like in P3P.

Tartarus at least partially hand made, like P4 dungeons. Better if it's funny designed like P5, but I'm not shooting for the moon here.

A version of The Answer that's actually playable.

Fuuka costumes.

FeMC option.

>>386058940
>>386050593
>>386050707
Also these.

And Marie goes through a PQ timewarp and becomes P3MC's canon love interest.

>>386056185
They aren't, are you forgetting they're releasing a game with these models?

>>386063475
P3 lacks direction. 30+ hours you are climbing this tower and defeating these shadows without knowing shit about them or even having a clear objective.
You must defeat them or bad shit happens without knowing much else is not that motivating.

>>386059759
Can you read?

>>386061005
This would be the most painful order in terms of how the games had advanced in terms of mechanics as they had been released. Do the exact opposite order for an easier time.

>>386063606
>What is character development
I mean, with that logic it takes until Sae for P5 to get started, which is far enough in the game to where I already would've finished my P3 playthrough

they should remaster p3p and p4g for ps4 in p5's engine and release them as a collection

>>386062515
Fuck the japs, they can't handle da man. His reveal was for us.

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>>386063525
It being easy as fuck and being the same thing since 3 is pretty lackluster especially considering the "new" mechanics is a simplified version of demon negotiation and "new" elements. They need to change it to press turn or something else, plus stop with the casualized. The game handholds you too much during dungeons and daily life segments.

>>386059895
>Be able to answer Akihiko where I've been
This is all I need and it'd become the best persona to me.

>>386063791
It depends do you want to go from hard to easy or easy too hard?

>>386063816
Might be what they are doing. A trilogy of all 3 games remaked would be awesome.

>>386063802
You do know that toucan do both, right? Like they are not mutually exclusive or anything.
I love P3, but its fans are almost as bad as Tarotards.

>>386063779
Guess what, that's what the party feels until November.

>>386053898
>your teammates can't hit weaknesses either

But the knockdown tactic was made for that.

I'm pretty sure most of your party tries to exploit weaknesses automatically when possible.

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>>386063965
>trilogy of all 3
>all 3

>>386063861
>They need to change it to press turn or something else
How would press turn work with fixed parties though? It's not like DDS where you can have anyone learn anything, each member has a set skill set.

>>386062515
Junpei tries to be Chad but comes off as a try hard douchebag.

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>>386063749
>Fuuka costumes.
yes please!

>>386063439
It wouldn't be that hard to max out social links if they put it in a shrine to use at night, in p3 night was pretty much useless once you max social stats.

>>386064007
And that makes it okay? Squall also feels deeply for Rinoa, but that doesn't make it less shittty.

>>386051519
It's in P5 but it really doesn't make sense that it's still a mechanic at all since even mainline SMT ditched it and it made the most sense in SMT since you just controlled demons and they'd just fuck off if you died.

In Persona it makes no sense to game over on MC death since you still have other human party members.

It's a kick in the balls when you're going through a dungeon in P5 doing completely fine but then you get fucked by a random crit.

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>>386064106
Hes the bantery best bud archetype. The guy that loves you the most 100% no homo.
The bro you get wasted with.
Your soul brother. DA MAN
You know that kind of friend

>>386064268
>In Persona it makes no sense to game over on MC death since you still have other human party members.
The MC is ridiculously overpowered compared to rest, it's also been pretty hard to die since 4 because of party members taking fatal hits for you.
I'm not saying it's not bullshit but that's why it works like that.

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>>386064105
One of my thoughts during the development of P5 is that it should go sorta DDS style were to get additional skills for party members they need to steal them. MC would still be demon fusing.

>>386063363
Why would you use Jojo Eyes of Heaven as a basis instead of Raidou, which was actually done by Atlus?

Raidou 2 had real-time combat with demon summoning and it was good.

>>386064370
This argument would make more sense if revival items didn't exist.

>>386064489
Yeah it was good
Everything except the gameplat that's it

-Make a meter gauge that shows how much stamina each party member has instead of those face expressions
-Don't have the weapons store closed at night time
-Make it possible to fast travel from anywhere

>>386050164
>atlus asked if people want a remake of 1&2
>remaked 3 instead
Burn my dread atlus, just burn my dread

>your face when Femkoto is in P3DMN and dances to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXX94yJgTz4

>>386064428
>get additional skills for party members they need to steal them.
That'd actually be pretty neat. If they allowed for other party members to have multiple Persona like in the first two games or do something like what you suggested then turn press would definitely work but if they continue with this strict party member skill set then I think it'd be pretty slow and wouldn't really work that well since in a game like Nocturne you want to optimize a party so that you can cover an enemy's weakness to make the most of your turns but if that were in P5 and only the MC had say Bufu and no one else did then you'd be wasting a ton of potential at not fault of the player's.

>>386064268
I always found it kind of hilarious when a boss or enemy used some sort of AoE attack and MC would be the only one that died because the rest of my party had that ability you get from their slinks that lets them survive a hit with 1 hp.

>>386064760
They wouldn't even need to remix it.

>>386050164
Just add most if not all of P5's QOL changes to combat.

A lot of the things P5 did well are completely compatible with P3's story structure. Just backporting them would improve the game immensely.

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>>386063264
m8. the only good ""jrpg"" is Xenogears, because it ditches the number-chasing roleplay garbage in favor of an actually half-decent story. action games aren't timesink VNs for retards unless they're FFXV.

>>386065118
That's a rather bold claim, anon.

>>386050164
Literally just grab the QoL improvements in P5 and add them in P5.

Add two more social stats, and some more areas in the island. Improve dungeons a bit. I don't know how they could possibly make Tartarsauce less boring and still keep the length, though.

>>386065431
P3*

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>>386062003
>>386062438
>>386062684
>FemMC fags

>>386065431
>I don't know how they could possibly make Tartarsauce less boring
Mouse puzzles.

>>386065431
Every milepoint in Tartarus, there's an actual, proper dungeon at the end of which you fight a Tower Guardian. Once every section of Tartarus, there's a safe spot where you can chat with your party.

>>386065527
I FCUKED KORO KEN AND AKI

>>386064758
They asked if people wanted a remake of 3 too though
Granted, 1&2 should get remade too, they 'need' it the most

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Remaster:
>Change fusion to be P4 style
>Make friend routes female S-links
>Clean up Tartarus to make it more visually appealing as well as alter the soundtrack for each block
>Alter Social Stat gains
>Tweak difficulty
>leave the tactics system intact

Full on Remake:
>S-link abilities like in 5
>Persona 5 element types as well as physical damage types
>Tweak mediocre S-links and gut bad ones for something interesting
>rebuild tartarus from the group up, either rebuild the random generation engine to be good or make each block of Tartarus a P5 styled dungeon
>P4/5 style fast trave in Tatsumi Port Island
>include player controller party members
>Rebalance difficulty for player controlled party members
>Make Full Moon missions longer
>give Strega significantly more motivation and back story
>Make Aigis not leave the party for the entire month of December

>>386064760
>not the springtime after school music where she sings about trying hard to flirt with someone and it all went good til she lost the rope again

>>386065068
Including Baton Pass? It's too overpowering I feel

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>>386050164
>Tartarus is now actually hand-designed instead of randomly generated.
>Party control but only after you reach a certain S Link rank with each character
>QoL improvements to fusion
>More stuff to do
>No mysterious new waifu like every Atlus remake in the last five years
They can do it, I believe in them

>>386065894
1&2 already got remade.

It's 3's turn.

>>386066073
>No mysterious new waifu
What if it's Tsubasa?

>>386066136
Tsubasa is too dumb to be mysterious, so she's okay

>>386066073
>No mysterious new waifu like every Atlus remake in the last five years
They'll just have FeMC be the mysterious new waifu for Minato.

>>386066019
Maybe not baton pass yeah, or at least not without drastically increasing difficulty

>>386066073
>>No mysterious new waifu like every Atlus remake in the last five years
you just know it would happen though

>>386066087
I'd like to play 1&2 without the dogshit combat and fusion system, please.

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>>386066184
Rude, that being said they should definitely use TMS's combat system instead of One More.

>>386050164
a lot of people have said things already, but I hope that they don't let you unlock the ability to remove level requirements for a fee for fusion + summoning from compendium
summoning Shiva or some other high level shit at the start of NG+ in 5 just made most of the game trivial
it's not too hard to grind levels in P3 anyways

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>>386050164
I JUST WANT NEW GAMES RATHER THAN REMAKES CHRIST

>>386066136
What if it's Yu in drag who manage to recover PQ's memories.

>>386060564
>weirdo older woman
They're going to stick her with Joker in PQ2 aren't they

>>386066307
Absolutely not. Even a single turn takes too damn long because of those damn session skills. And fuck those ad-lib skills. This isn't FFVII. I don't need a 30 second cutscene just for a single attack.

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>>386050164

>P3 remake all but confirmed
>It's already been remade twice

How far do you people have to reach to come up with this bullshit? Honestly...

>>386066307
I want to impregnate Tsubasa

>>386066430
>just go a new game
>i just want neu game gays!

>>386066430
They're doing both of those things. The guy who did P5 is working on a new IP for Atlus even.