Nier Automata

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9S dindu nuffin

>>386048804
Was gonna write this in the OP, truly dindu nuffin.

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>>386048804

I'd like to play this again but my house is destroyed right now lol

>>386049101
Emil are you okay

>>386049085
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffl4HDp-_S4

>>386048703
OP, you had better have deleted your save.

>>386050606
I'll do it once I'll 100% the game famalam

>>386048703
Be sure to read side materals as they are extremely important and also contain a post-e ending where 9S never wakes up and 2B dies from grief on his body not really
https://www.reddit.com/r/nier/wiki/lore#wiki_just_finished_ending_e.3F

>>386048703
did you finished it more than once?

>>386051049
Ending ABCDE.

Also man that fucking demo mode spoils a shit load of stuff

>>386050818
Thanks a ton for posting this, I just everything in order is that it?

>>386051578
The most important are 3, 4 and 9 but generally you may want to look at everything.

How did you like it, Op?

I wish there were more character interactions during side quests. I also wish we had a beach episode DLC.

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>>386050796
>all those people sacrificed their saves to help you
>you don't return the favor

>>386052029
It's funny because just a few days ago I thought to myself that my dreamlike game would have a secret option to have a secret happy ending in the end with difficult conditions. The game basically had this. Might be in top 5 favourite of all time. It touched every vidya boner of mine.
Also that fucking sound design.
>>386052219
I'll return that favor another time :^)

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>>386048703
Did you carry the weight of the world?

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>>386052705
>I'll return that favor another time :^)
>not keeping backups of all your saves

The game oozes charm and uniqueness but the gameplay itself and quest design is atrocious.

I mean, the movesets are awesome, they look and feel fantastic. But even in the harder modes, fast attack and dodge spam is enough to win every battle

>>386048703
Awful game awful story awful gameplay awful characters.

>>386053121
I think my biggest issue is that once you get too over-leveled there's no way to really balance the difficulty out without starting from scratch.

Still miles ahead of the gameplay and quest design in Taro's earlier works though.

>>386053121
Some of the boss sequences get very intense, especially if you are running out of healing items. But I agree, the game could use more enemies overall. Still I really liked going to the deserted town area with infinitely spawning enemies, it made me try.

I hear the DLC can pose a good challenge. How is it?

>>386053641
Healing items were a mistake too.

they ripped dark souls corpse runs and left fucking estus out, which would work wonderfully

>>386053345
I switched to hard when the game got too easy. I think they could just get rid of levels in the game, the game would be easier to balance.

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>"You're thinking about how much you want to **** 2B, aren't you?"

>>386053885
Now that you mention it, estus-like healing would suit this game like a glove.

I also found myself scave-scumming instead of working t get my chips back. Made me feel dirty.

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>>386054195
no, of course not

>>386054195
You can bet your ass I am.

>>386054195
>>386054490
>>386054423

>To K i l l
yeah

>>386054528
Is that confirmed?

>>386054739
what do you end doing later in the game?
what does Jackass say about Androids getting aorused when killing

do the math

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>>386054739
I believe it's meant to be ambiguous.

>>386055084
>>386054528
>>386054739
No reason to hide it if it's just kill. Also doesn't fit 9S character.

>>386055013
Oh fuck me, I guess I'll have to pretend it's about fucking still. I guess in a way it is.

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>>386054739
Canonically confirmed otherwise.

>>386055335
I think it makes sense if they just wanted to fuck with the players.

>>386055335
it's to make the audience think he said fuck, when in reality it could be either, none or both

>>386055084
It's meant to be ambiguous until you understand how deeply 9S loves her.

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>>386055335
>No reason to hide it if it's just kill
We aren't given any reason to think he would want to kill her that early on.

But when he's repeatedly stabbing her in his subconscious memory space it starts raising questions.

>>386055845
But that was just because the Machine fucked with him right?

original jap script rules out "fuck"

>>386056029
No it doesn't you dumb ass faggot

>>386056029
How so? What's there instead?

>>386056029
>>386056127
How so? How was it handled?

literally just dmc with sex appeal

>>386056197
way worse than dmc

>>386056160
>>386056190
only a part of the verb is censored and according to jap grammar rules, nothing like "fuck" can fit there

>>386056197
literally just retard flaunting his ignorance

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>>386055969
9S's journey through the towers was basically peeling back and desecrating everything he believed and cared about one layer at a time.

N2 was deliberately screwing with him by that point, but I think the fact that 2B is the one in 9S's mind destroying the good memories that he's collected of her parallels how his subconscious knowledge of who she really is taints the idea of a happy relationship that he wishes to have with her.

>>386056462
What would be the point of censoring it if there are no conflicting options for the insert?

>>386055845
This moment is completely explained in side materials, he got psychotic because something started deleting his memories of her, not because he wanted to kill her. That entity just took her form which triggered his complete descent to madness.

>>386056197
You're far off.

What was the point of Devola and Popola in this game?

>>386056698
To show how far android bigotry can go.

>>386056698
Closure and the link to Nier

>>386056559
there are though
just look it up

>>386056490
Not to mention that 2B has helped erase his memories multiple times before.

Inevitably tearing him down and setting his mind back to square one whenever he had time to potentially get close to her.

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>still arguing about **** when Taro actually provided a canon answer

>>386056462
This is bullshit, ignore this idiot.

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>>386056698
Elaboration on the fall of Project Gestalt and emphasis on the emotional fallout it had for those who relied on it?

Im working on the towers in the third playthough and getting very burned out. Is it really worth playing the rest? (1.5 more times)

>>386056918
So what's the answer?

>>386057134
>>386055526

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Nier Automata is what FFXV wanted to be

>>386057101
Spoiler-free tip: You don't have to play more, don't worry. You're close to the end.

>>386057101
You are pretty close to the end, just keep going.

>>386057101
You're in the final stretch. There are no more full playthroughs after that.

>>386057172
Automata has more creativity in it than any final fantasy, or bravely default for that matter.

>>386057172
Fucking this. What the fuck has square become.

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I also just finished. I'm feeling a lot of emotions right now. I need some kind of outlet.

What sick fuck made YorHa with the intention of putting a back door in it to kill them all? For what purpose?

>>386057172
I don't think FF actually wanted to be Nier, which might very well be one of the reasons SE is bad.

>>386057172
It'd never happen, but I find it amusing to imagine what FF would be like with Taro at the reigns.

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>>386057395
>What sick fuck made YorHa with the intention of putting a back door in it to kill them all?
https://mintychu.dreamwidth.org/1371.html#cutid1
You're in for a mad laugh.

>>386057425
It would end up being its own thing, like xenoverse.

>>386057425
It would be like a way more dramatic and well-written bravely default with more dump taken on classic FF cliches like awakening the crystals.

>>386057528
Xenogears*

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>>386057395
>who made YorHa with the intention of putting a back door in it
Android higher-ups. There's actually some backstory on that in the side-materials.

>For what purpose?
To collect battle data for the next line of improved combat units while also cleaning up loose ends of everyone who still knew that humanity was extinct.

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>>386057425
There's variation in tone obviously, but I did think that FF9 shared some parallels with Nier.

>>386057751
>To collect battle data for the next line of improved combat units
Not confirmed. Pod mention that ALL data would be destroyed. Collecting battle data is what Zinna/Number 9 made Commander believe most likely.

>>386057617
>well-written
>Taro game
Just pulls the same edgy anime tropes every game, just because it's depressing and meta doesn't mean its well written you cock.

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Is the dlc actually worth it or is it really just the arena?

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>>386057995
But that's been a recurring theme since the stage play.

Sending countless expendable units to their death for the sake of evolution in an endless conflict.

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>>386058129
For the most part it's just the arena, some joke boss battles, new outfits, and a music video.

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I just beat the game two days ago, /v/. Wasn't expecting to like it as much as I did. Whoever did the soundtrack deserves a round of applause because it was fantastic.

>>386048703
I just beat it two days ago and i thought the main plot and main characters were pretty weak. None of them had enough time to properly develop and their nature as androids was criminally underutilized. With the fact that their consciousness is not attached to their bodies i was expecting a lot more complex shit to happen, and the only thing that really took advantage of that was the hacking. I really liked the rest of the themes in the game though, mainly the machine related stuff.

>>386057404
Well, I think FFXV was trying to be a less intimidating action RPG to ease in the old RPG fans, but their battle system ended up really kind of sucking and failing, and it only shines in like two boss fights. There are flaws with Nier's combat, but it executes "babby's first action RPG" much better than FFXV and it's actually fun to play. It could use more bosses and a revamped difficulty mode, though.

FFXV wanted an open world to explore but it ended up feeling dead and was kind of stupid to move around in. I never got bored running around in Nier, even though the game world isn't as large and is less developed. Nier's moving and jumping actually feels good and different areas even mix up the gameplay.

Lastly FFXV really wanted to have an emotional impact on the player in a way that I don't think XIII or XII tried. The problem is their characters and plot were unfinished. Nier beats it just by being a complete game. It also actually earned its emotional moments. I didn't give a fuck about Luna when she got ganked because she had literally only been in like two cutscenes up to that point. I actually felt feelings again when I got ending E.

>>386058421
I guess it's not really worth it then, alright.

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>>386058747
Glad they brought back Okabe from the first game.

For some reason original Nier's OST didn't really click for me, but Automata is still making it to my playlist months after I finished the game.

>>386055335
It's ambiguous because it's both. 9S hates 2B and loves 2B. He has very conflicting emotions about her. I'm pretty sure this scenes lost something in translation, the nips in threads claim the context implies it's an aggressive word.

>>386058260
>But that's been a recurring theme since the stage play.
Yes, for the project yorha itself. Not outside of it.
Reminder that yorha androids are the only line that is fuelled by machine cores far surpassing traditional energy sources used by simple models. Nobody won't even be able to use their combat data outside of the project because they operate at far higher capacity than Resistance.
>sake of evolution in an endless conflict
Project yorha took less than 10 years.
And androids actually fought desperately, to win.

>>386059107
The first's OST is much better

>>386059107
I really love the first game's music, but boy do they recycle and loop those songs for all they're worth.

>>386059163
Please read side materials before spouting bullshit.

>>386058935
I felt the same. Honestly in many respects the game feels like a laundry list of sci-fi and philosophical concepts. There are some very neat gameplay ideas and subversions, but they end up not really building up to anything.

>>386059163
rape?

>>386058971
It makes a lot of sense when you put it like that.

I actually like Nier's world, even though it's not that big, it's varied enough and very connected.

Also, in my opinion, what makes the game special is how attached the game makes the player to the characters. Even A2, who could really use more fleshing out, was very likeable and it was a pleasure watching her warm up to the machines.

Lastly, I think they tried not to get too lazy with details. When you build a slide you can try it yourself and it actually helps with navigating the village. Little details like that make video games memorable.

>>386059260
I don't know, anon, when I listen to it, I know it's good music, but there is no goosebumps for some reason.

>>386057005
Nier already made it clear how Project Gestalt was doomed. AFAIK, Automata didn't reveal any new information about it. The little story that unlocked after their deaths was pretty neat though.

>>386059260
You hipsteshits are laughable, Automata's OST beats the first one both in terms of overall quality and variety.

>>386060086
I think Atomato's OST is overall better but KAINE themes and HILLS OF RADIANT WINDS are Elder God tier

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>>386059024
>people always talk about Okabe when referring to how good the OST is
>when most of the best songs are by Keigo Hoashi and not Okabe

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>>386048703
Automata ends with an extremely positive message about life.
In a game from fucking Taro. How the fuck does he keep defying my expectations?

>>386060435
They are elder god tier exactly as Vague Hope or City Ruins themes.

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What was his endgame?

>>386060469
The whole game is a result of collaboration and work of passion. It's only natural that he included equally positive message inside and actually allowed main characters to live and love each other.

>>386060493
say that to my Lea nushe ri
Vishfa lehati
yelet kai shtnesa
vafasa halu li
and not online

>>386060610
I still believe I got cock blocked from actually witnessing the happy ending. There is a promise of it, but I crave a happy beach episode, I have never craved it more in my life.

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>Post yfw this + sound of the end

>>386060493
>Tfw set City Ruins as my alarm one week
>Song is so cozy I don't want to hit the alarm because that would stop the song
>Have to change it back after it makes me late for work twice

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>>386059243
>machine cores far surpassing traditional energy sources used by simple models
Where is that said? I thought the only explanation given for why machine cores were used for Yorha was because androids thought it would be more humane to euthanize recycled enemies rather than normal android A.I.

>Project yorha took less than 10 years.
But the actual war has been going on for thousands of years.

With both sides developing at a rate that never fully outclasses the other because the machine network believed that it needed an enemy to fight.

>>386060958
>Where is that said?
Side materials. Zinnia says that they operate at exceptionally high level of power but require processing on a high amount of machine cores. Also in yorha stageplay it's mentioned that YoRHa androids don't even need to drink water to survive like normal androids and in main game Pascal mentions that machine cores are an infinite energy source.
>With both sides developing at a rate that never fully outclasses the other
Wrong. Machine network was always way more powerful, it merely allowed androids to survive. Androids, on the other hand, fought as desperately as they could.

>>386059976
Well there was belief at the start of Automata that other Devola and Popola units managed to have enough successful mergings with Gestalts and Replicants that some survivors managed to make it to the moon. Explaining why any androids thought that humanity survived.

So Automata cements that it was a complete failure, apart from whatever data they saved on the moon server.

>>386060894
Put War and War as your alarm.
It's City Ruins arrange but it's really not a fucking cozy one.

>>386048703
This game is so deep man, almost as good as Undertale

>>386060465
Okabe:
>Tower
>City Ruins
>Possessed by a disease
>Voice of no Return

Hoashi:
>Amusement Park
>Bipolar Nightmare
>Crumbling Lies
>Vague Hope

I'd say they're about the same for me (though Amusement Park is GOAT).

>>386060465
Wasn't he mainly responsible for the piano themes?

>>386060837
watch or read the concert ending
it's as happy as it gets with 2B and 9S both being alive and happy to see each other

>>>vg/ndg

>>386060605
Money?

How the hell am I supposed to play this game if I want to fap every 5 minutes because of 2B?

I wish the game had more replay value. I have this problem with a lot of hack'n'slash games of this sort. Once you play them once and get through the story, repeating it for all the collectibles is more like work than fun because the story doesn't stir you as much anymore.

There's not much surprise hidden in the game unless you totally shitter your way through it the first time skipping almost everything

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBjSXABCL9k&t=5725s


I am cry /v/

>>386061387
>Zinnia says that they operate at exceptionally high level of power but require processing on a high amount of machine cores.
So what's stopping them from using that tech in the future if they've already adapted it for androids?

>Machine network was always way more powerful, it merely allowed androids to survive
That's what I meant. The machine network believed that it needed an enemy to fight so it deliberately prolonged the war.

>>386061627
Thanks, I've been meaning to do just that.

>>386048703
Will I enjoy this game if I'm not a weeb? I prefer Japanese action games over Western games but only the ones that are more 'western' orientated that don't have all that moe shit in it (so along the lines of Metal Gear and Dark Souls).

I still barely understand the motivation of the n2 thing and the tower stuff

Like why were they pitting the androids and the machines against each other and how did they do it? I lost track of the plot around there because I was suffering

>>386061826
I cried like a huge faggot as soon as I heard this in Automata

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>>386048703
>A Yoko Taro shota went 100 times more nuclear than Venom Snake ever did
really makes you think

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>>386061627
>mfw I was right telling everyone the published ending was fake and real would be different

>>386061591
This page says who made what:
http://vgmdb.net/album/65091

>>386061959
It's not very anime. If you enjoy mgs which is pretty anime at times, you have a good chance of enjoying Nier, both original and Automata.

>>386061959
It has like very occasional japanese type cultural inferences but they're so rare I don't think you'll even notice them.

>>386061959
It doesn't really has any moe shit, and the only fanservice is self-destructing and revealing character's stocks. I've never done it over the course of the game.

Automata has a coherent plot with actual thought out themes and messages, so it's worth a buy just for that.

>>386059403
I felt the same way. I like the game, but I honestly wish I liked the game more.

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>tfw Ending E
>seeing those messages of encouragement
>the additional "players" showing up and the chorus kicking in on Weight of the World

After all the fucked up things that happened in Route C that was such a goddamn satisfying but bittersweet ending.

Also, A2 a cute.

>>386061972
The most efficient way for machines to learn is through battle.

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>>386061959
>hating on based moe

>>386062421
A2 x Pod sitcom when

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>>386060887
Sound of the End is so fuggin good.

>>386061862
Did the machine network just need a reason to live?

>>386061862
>So what's stopping them from using that tech in the future if they've already adapted it for androids?
The fact it requires cores of their enemies to work?
Enormous financial strain as Zinnia mentions that they can't maintain more than 100 units at once?
Whole project was questionable all the way before number nine hijacked it and turned it into one-time thing.

>>386061748
Don't be autistic like KHfags with the, ONLY LEVEL 1, VERY HARD NO SAVE, NO ITEMS, SPEEDRUN

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I beat the game without ever shopping at that faggots mobile music shop or fighting him or finding his base

most worthless part of the game, tired of his faggot ass showing up in the middle of fights and ruining the atmosphere

>>386062929
low quality bait

>>386054195
I still can't believe that was an actual line.

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>>386062017

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yo know the game

Marry

****

****

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What did everyone think of the post-yorha part of the game?
Story wise I understand what taro was going for, but the gameplay kind of felt rushed and left something to be desired, considering most of the tower's bosses were re-used and the network brain or whatever those two girls were supposed to represent wasn't even a fight at all.
Also I didn't really care enough about A2, since she was just kinda sprung on us for like the last 1/4 of the game.

>>386061748
Replaying a bunch of the same content for ending B made me not want to replay the game on a higher difficulty, which I do in most Platinum games. I feel the game could've been paced better, perhaps merging A and C route as one long playthrough and opening up chapter select and 9S as a playable character at that point.

>>386063445
pace was all over the place and things that seemed important were wall of text while asinine stuff was acted cutscene

>>386063445
>not liking A2 more than 2B

I bet the 5 endings but what was the point of that machine head that runs away just before the Forest King level? I looked all over the forest area but couldn't find him

>>386062017
When does it play? Try to be as spoiler free as possible senpai

>>386063445
It's where shit gets real. It also really makes me wish that hacking was accessed through a pod program instead of neutering 9S's melee.

Switching between 9S and A2 during the final stretch is really cool but not necessarily amazing gameplay-wise.

A2 should have gotten a longer route with more bosses. I think I only used berserk mode like twice.

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>>386063671
Why do you like A2 more anon?
Besides the fact that she was naked

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>>386063289
>>386063289
better pic

>>386063445
I wished they explained the relationship she had with Toobie's memories better. And that they brought up more of the plot of the dumb-ass stageplay so I could understand No. 2's motivation's better. Am I supposed to think of A2 as an extension of 2B, or can A2 separate herself from 2B's memories sufficiently? It seems like the latter, but then what is her motivation for anything she does in that game after that point? She seemed like she didn't want to do anything the whole time, but I was just guiding her to the game's resolution because it's a video game.

>>386063745
End of a quest chain involving a familiar face

>>386063732
I couldn't figure out how to open any of the legendary swordsmith's hideouts and that's the only thing I regret not doing before I erased my data.

>>386064048
Alright I get it now.

>>386063829

That boss fight with the 2 eyeballs was fucjing retarded. A2's target kept hiding and killing the mech tentacles didn't do anything. The it would switch every 60s to 9S even after I depleted its health bar. It was over 15 mins chipping away the last 15% of A2's boss.

>>386063839
She showed more personality.
and she has a better body

>>386063829
Yeah i wasn't a fan of how they did B mode.
It was really hard to use in the fight it was introduced in and if you had played a decent amount of side quests before getting to that point, you were probably a high enough lvl that you didn't really need it anyways

>>386064132
>fake skin peeled
>less curvy

what fetish do you have pray tell

>>386063839
>Besides the fact that she was naked

What? Am I retarded for not noticing?

>>386063930
I guess you could argue that she was just killing machines because she can't escape her core programming, but the memories thing did confuse me as well. I thought she might have become a combination of the two kind of like the kid at the end of ghost in the shell, but she definitely didn't know who Pascal was when she first ran into him, so I have no idea

>>386058935
>and their nature as androids was criminally underutilized
It's not really a game about that. It's not about AI's or the nature of humanity.

The game has two clear themes. The main one is about your reasons to live. What drives you, why are doing anything? Humanity is an allegory for that, as it represents something unreachable, yet something for which you constantly yearn for. The main character (9S) first has his will to live, in both humanity and 2B. Then he loses them one after another, after which the nihilism came over him. He believes in nothing, only desires destruction of the machines. And still, in the end he finds his own peace (by the memories of 2B, no less). Basically, it is a story of finding the reason of your existence. Not some external one, but for yourself only. In the last dialogue between bots they basically say that life is worth it just for the fact that you are living. Nothing more is needed. You may feel bad, lost, broken, but, sometimes with the help of other people (hence the credits), you can and should live.

The second theme is about longing for your own past. The whole game is full of this dream-like atmosphere of nostalgia. About what you said, "nature as androids was criminally underutilized", I'd say that, for all intents and purposes, both androids and machines are "human". They feel emotions, they eat just because it feels good, take showers and so on. And yet they all strive to be like humans, and in this process they repeat the mistakes of the past. Though androids accuse machines of doing it, they are themselves fully guilty of it. There's also Adam, who superficially looked at the past and decided he understood it all. But maybe someday, we can finally move forward without looking back (that is A2's ending with the rocket launching into space).

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post yfw Weight of the World chorus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-37MWw9nyR0

>>386064132
man what
I'm willing to bet that 2b and A2 used the same model.
Also 2B's personality was more interesting to me, since you could tell she was trying hard to hide her true self. When it leaked through it was always cute and helped add to her character as well.
Maybe if i watched the play i'd like A2 more, but all i knew about her by the end of the game was that she hates machines, betrayed yorha and used to go on missions with Anemone.

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>>386064523

Its basically a bizzaro cross between Neon Genesis Evangelion and Ghost in the Shell.

I loved the game, wish it was solid and well put together as NGE. Ending E makes it deserve it.


People saying that its a pastiche of scifi ideas aren't wrong. Eva and Ghost in the Shell are as well, its why you hear the term "post modern" thrown around with them so much.

There's also the fact that the Japanese aren't so afraid of wholesail ripping things off and then adding their own spice to the mix.

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Is Drakengard 3 worth playing, even if it´s just to hear that soundtrack?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGbja6xxM2w

Why do Taro games always have such great soundtracks?

>>386063732

That was emil

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You and your bf are at the club when these two guys slap his ass and say "We're sharing him tonight"
what do?

>>386065489
I hack them with my twin sticks moves

iykwim

>>386065170
Eva is more like "you know, maybe this whole 'being close with people' isn't that bad after all".
Automata is more like "you know, maybe this whole 'having a higher purpose' thing is overrated and life is worth living just for the sake of it" (totally not ripped off from Camus).

Seems like fucking Cloudfare is having some sort of problems in Russia and gives me "Bad Gateway", so I have to access 4chan through VPN. MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT

>>386065792

The way I put it is that Eva's about interpersonal relationships, while Automata's about inter-group.

I really need to get around to actually reading philosophy. But I'm legitimately adhd, and am in the middle of other books.

Plus I'm a faggot that doesn't want to start with the greeks but read about Existentialism. I just lurk /his/ for philosphy threads.

>>386048703
9s ruins it all. fucking queerass fag

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>>386048703
Here have the timeline

Thinking of buying it. How's it run on PC? Steam forums suggest that the game has a resulution problem, which is preventing me from buying it.

how do you feel about the next game spawning of one of the joke endings thus overriding the happy canon ending?

>>386067317
Games runs like shit out of the box.
But runs fine if you download FAR and use it to change the Global Illumination

>Made a cult hit, gameplay is mediocre
>Hires Platinum games for the sequel
>Game ends up being worse

JUST

>>386067317
Just use FAR fix and you´re gtg. Had a constant 60FPS on high/1440p.
Don´t miss out on it.

Game didn't have enough suffering or sadness in it

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>>386060605
Dosh.

>>386060605
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUFMdcrEwZ8

I think that's him at 1:46

OP here, gonna sleep so thanks a lot for the thread, this game was a goddamn masterpiece for me.

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>2B's flight unit message
>Gathering Keepsakes
>resource units
The game masterfully shows how much 2B's death broke 9S. I don't think i saw any other game showing a person being destroyed by grief so well. The very fact he decided to go on a meaningless one man genocide crusade only added to it, and the fact he becomes a fucking monster in a process who mows down flight units on foot, denies mercy killing and can use chips to make machines scream from pain was over the top.

And then ending D comes and finishes his character ark so well he probably became my favourite Taro character. He's like a Nier 2.0, with way more depth going on for him.

>>386069541
I sure as hell hope you found 2B's shot down unit as 9S in the drowned city on route C .

>>386071402
not OP but y-you could do that?

>>386070074
>chips to make machines scream from pain was over the top
Yeah, they really went an extra mile with that.

>>386071460
Yes. You should be able to go to the beginning of Route C with chapter select if you missed out on it. Or just watch it on youtube if you have deleted your save file.

>>386055335
>Also doesn't fit 9S's character
Did you pay attention to like any of the game's hints? It almost explicitly says he knows that 2B keeps killing him, and he's balancing between a burning passion for her as well as an intense hatred. It's the whole reason why he completely loses his shit as C/D goes on, especially during the 2B horde. It's the reason why he gets severely aggressive when Adam asks the question in the first place.

>>386072929
>as well as an intense hatred
there's no hatred
side materials confirm that the only feeling he has for her is self-sacrificing love, just like her feelings for him

>>386054528
I'm kinda late, but play the game in another language and you'll see it's clearly fuck.

I loved this game at the start

During C route I lost all motivation to play and dropped it for a month.

Came back, rushed the story and got all main endings and uninstalled right away.

I'm not sure what happened, but I couldn't care about the game anymore

>>386073583
Odd, I had the opposite reaction. Feeling underwhelmed until route C.

>>386073583
I had a similar experience with FF9.

I think it's important to have a breather when you are starting to get burnt out, but you also have to make sure the pause is not too long or you will come back to a game that you can hardly remember.

>>386073757
>>386074028
Eh, maybe I got burnt out way more than I thought. I was doing all sidequests and by the time B route dropped I was already overleveled

By the time the game finished I was just mashing X, Y as well if playing as A2 with no regard to anything since all the healing chips I had broke the game.

I also really liked the little chip rpg stuff until I managed to break the game I guess.

>>386073098
Main materials (the game) confirms that he sure does enjoy killing all those 2B clones in the tower.

>>386074379
No, he doesn't. He had a psychotic mindbreak and got fucked up by a virus. 2B's death is what broke him in first place.

>>386073583

That happened to me when I was playing Fallout 4. Played the first 30 hours and once all the sidequests were done, I stopped giving a shit about the game. Didn't bother to finish the main story and I never will.

>>386074375
Sounds like you should have switched to hard. That's what kept the combat fun for me.

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>>386065283

3's gameplay is trash and it looked like a PS2 game but I loved it despite this.

It also has an android who was namedropped in Automata

>>386074518
I don't know... I think the virus explains the rampage and the fight with A2 at the end, but I think the way he felt emotionally after finding out the truth of his and 2B's relationship is more responsible for why he tried taking down the tower. And his general hatred for machines and A2. As far as I can tell, infected androids don't go and set long-term goals like bringing down the human AI.

>>386074614
Unfortunately Hard just makes fights more tedious since enemies have more health. It's not like they become more aggressive, or being hit by an attack is any more threatening or likely.

>>386075337
Hard doesn't change the game much when you get overpowered, it just prevents it from being too easy. I had fun with it, but they sure could balance it better.

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>>386065170
>NGE
>solid and well put together

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>>386065283
>Is Drakengard 3 worth playing
Eeeh, kind of? Maybe? Some of it? Not really?

There are some interesting ideas, but it's very different in tone from Taro's other games. Less of a tragedy than Nier, and not a gritty cosmic horror like Drakengard 1. More of a gory dark humored murder fest with sex jokes and fourth wall breaks every other conversation.

More variety in gameplay than the first game, but it's still not great.

>>386075185
virus was methodically destroying his memories of 2B and he resisted it as much as he could because 2B is who made him who he is

>>386075467
My main problem was the chip system. You can combine chips to upgrade them, but then they usually take up more slots and they end up not feeling like an upgrade because you don't end up using them. You're better off doing sidequests and exploring to find the special chips that take up less slots.

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>>386061972
you get a huge document detailing it. basically the machine's entire purpose was to defeat their enemies, that's how they were programmed. and they realized that if they had no enemy they would have no purpose. so they made sure to have this endless cycle to always have androids as their enemy, if I'm not mistaken.

there's some things I'm not sure about but that's the gist of it. feel free to correct me if I'm wrong

>>386050796
You are a genuine scum bag.

>>386076054
I bet he's going to backup his save, too. The motherfucker.

>>386075654
Why is the commander there?

>>386061972
The androids were their own faction trying to take back Earth from the aliens, so N2 didn't really start the war, they just kept it going for the sake of following their original directive telling them to fight the enemy.

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>>386076159
Taro just really likes that white-haired aesthetic.

when can we emulate Nier at 30+ fps? I've been kicking myself for not playing it before Automata

>>386076332
The hair design is almost the same though

>>386075773
That doesn't sound exactly right to me. But you probably know better than me. I stayed up way too late to finish the tower section because I just wanted it to be over.

>>386076571
>That doesn't sound exactly right to me
this was confirmed by side materials

>>386060887
I knew she was going to lose everything right when he got a backbone.

>>386078490
>she

>>386068045
Money money money!

>>386078087
I shouldn't have to look up "side materials" to properly understand the A plot of a video game. But congrats on doing your homework.

btw, the stage play fucking sucks

>>386078554
Yeah? Pascal is a girl, you can tell by his voice.

>>386078626
>I shouldn't have to look up "side materials" to properly understand the A plot of a video game
well tough shit, Taro has been doing it for years and true ending of original Nier is inside side materials too
>>386078685
>Pascal is a girl
he's "uncle" pascal and Taro wanted to make him sound like a young boy but somebody in dev team really wanted Aoi Yuki as VA and he rolled on with it

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>>386078685

>>386078685
Pascal is male

Except voiced by the legal loli

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>>386052219
>Implying that people didn't secretly back up their save before wiping.

>>386080793
post more

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I'll post a couple.

>>386078626
Its art not a video game

>>386082130
I like this one a lot.

>>386082130
>fingertip
CUTE

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>>386048804

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>>386080793
Hit it off with Anenome. And/Or help fix up the twins.

A2's been living that lone avenger life for too long.