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Do you consider yourself to be a man of good taste?

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Do you consider yourself to be a man of good taste?
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No I'm the incredibly niche guy that likes Dark Knight, Twilight, Pokemon and COD all at the same time, wtf?
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>>386020715
imagine the state of whatever mong made that picture
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>>386020715
somewhat sneaky bait, 7/10
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>>386021040
It's not really hard. It's basically saying "good stuff is good, average stuff isn't all that good".
In fact, that is the biggest flaw of this picture: it's not actually really incendiary at all, as it's all mostly common fucking sense. That makes it boring, which when it comes to bait charts like this is the worst thing you can ever do.
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>>386020715
Departed is a bad flick though
Donnie Darko is better
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>>386020715
>Crime dramas
>good
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>>386020715
What's wrong with the dark knight
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>>386020715
>good taste
>max payne 2
>godfather
Kek, no
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> the departed
get fucked
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>>386021350
Joker's plans are generally retarded, Harvey Dent suffers the most idiotic, thinly explained breakdown ever and it is a flashy action comic book movie that shuns its flashiness on the surface, but not in the substance.
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>>386021350
There was plenty wrong with it. That retarded scene where Batman abducts the asian guy. The scene where "muh Bat radar" on every cell phone in the city. The scene where they remove the piece of the wall and find out where the bullet came from.

Nolan is a fucking retard.
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>>386021642
Oh, right, don't start me on the "we need to spy on everyone" shit. It made me scream in the fucking theater.
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This is lose right?
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>>386020715
>Nintendofaggots will debate this
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>>386021984
There are well-made kids movies and well-written children books, you know
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>>386021984
>tfw when I like all of those games
feels great
Also
>nintendo
>saviour of the industry
nobody has fucking said this
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>>386021350
The Joker was the only consistently entertaining part of it, I thought. Every scene that doesn't have him is so forgettable and boring, and some of the scenes that do have him aren't great either. I don't think it's bad, but it's not great.
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>>386021350
Ledgers performance aside, the movie is actually really silly, completely inconsistent in tone, has pretty weak pacing and is full of stupid moments that make zero sense except to force in a particular theme. Nolan knows his craft, so technically the movie has a lot of solid cinematography, the Joker is genuinely captivating, but just about everything else falls apart.

I would not say it's awful: for a capeshit movie it... you know about as good as gritty re-telling of a capeshit story can be. But it's still no pinnacle cinematography: the very premise is silly and poorly fitting the tone, a lot of the characters are pretty horrible, a lot of the plot-development is pants on head retarded.
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>>386020715
>Oz over Lost

Found the cuck
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>>386022225
>children
Here is the keyword
Zelda is cool if you are 10
Not 25
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>>386022515
This
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whats wrong with mass effecc 2?
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>it's popular therefore i hate it
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>>386020715
If by "Good Taste" you mean a /v/ipster cuck with no original opinions cept those regurgitated by the neo hi/v/e on an image board. No, no I don't.
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>>386022225
>There are well-made kids movies and well-written children books, you know
I agree, but it's not the ones that the chart shows. With very arguable exception of maybe Harry Potter, all of the childish stuff in this chart is just bad: it's the kind of stuff that takes refuge in being for children.

>>386022515
There is no inherent reason why a work aimed primarily at children could not be great and thoroughly enjoyable for adults as well. Movies like say, Secret of Kells or anything by Miyazaki, books like Hobbit or Little Prince are timeless classics that anyone can and should enjoy, regardless of their age.

So saying that it's done for "children" does not mean it's inherently invaluable for anyone who is not a child. It's just a sad unfortunate reality that children storytelling can get away with a lot of shit. Though, then when you think about it, a lot of adult-oriented shit is actually awful too.

So really, primary age-orientation means nothing.
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>>386022515
>>386022563
Winnie the Pooh is as enjoyable now as it was when I was 5. So is the original Zelda. I think you're baiting.
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>>386022720
>/v/ipster
>cuck
>hi/v/e

Damn son you're going all out on those /pol/ buzzwords.

Maybe you should go back there.
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>people with taste
>shitty Brooklyn Italian paizanos badda bing badda boom games and movies

Really makes you think
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>>386022774
>Winnie the Pooh is as enjoyable now as it was when I was 5

Perhaps you have some sort of learning disability or autism?
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>>386022854
The same applies to Nintendoshit

Really makes you think.
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>>386021175
Holy shit you ARE that mong.
My condolences to your family.
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>>386020715
>random surface level classics in every category
wew such a good taste xd
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>>386020715
My taste is all over the fucking place.
I've been called a pleb and a man of culture in the same thread.
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>>386022471

>Lost
>Good

Listen, I don't care how intriguing it was in early seasons. If all the mystery has an awful payoff, the whole show was awful. The writers were just making shit up as they went along. Anyone could write like that. They deserve no credit for it.

That's why despite. It being one of my favorite franchises, I still consider Danganronpa a shit series after the anime came out and ruined everything.
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>>386022962
Basic, critically acclaimed stuff vs. mostly the worst of the generic pop-fiction? And that somehow makes you sperg out like this? Really?

Wow, saying godfather is better than Twilight movies: what an absolute, outrageous insanity, right?

Seriously, what fuck are you even talking about? What is your issue here?
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What is good taste?
can you define this?

I want to answer but I cant really define it
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>>386023042
That's how postmodernism works
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>>386020715
The Departed is an overrated piece of shit and a fucking rip-off you tard.
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Fuck off, Friends is great.
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>>386023056
>m-muh answers!

*shits in your mouth*
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>>386023223
I mean, JJ's already shat in your mouth real hard.
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>>386023071

To me good taste isn't necessarily the titles you like, it's why you like them. Sometimes I can listen to a person talking about a show/movie/book/game and I can tell that they are actually digesting what they are seeing and not just mindlessly staring a screen slackjawed only coming life when something "epic" happens. These types of people have tendency (but obviously not always) to not enjoy certain types of stuff, such as the Transformers movie franchise.
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>>386021984
>Kirby is the OldBoy of videogames
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>2/10 bait repost
>41 replies
Why even bother, you all know it's fake.
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>>386022807
Wow literally none of those terms cept maybe cuck is associated with le epic /pol/ boogeyman at all. Woah...
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>>386020715
The only correct thing on this is Gen 3 Pokémon beimg trash.
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>>386023557
t. racist shitlord
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>>386021984
The problem with that chart is that people only do the "mature games for mature people such as myself" with video games because video games are an innately autistic hobby in the first place, and no amount of violence, forced cuss words in horribly voice acted cutscenes, or drug use is going to change that. The other thing is that most Nintendo fans would approve of the Grim Fandango and SorC, it's only gritty cinematic wannabe big boy bullsht that Nintendo fans make fun of. Also there are way better kids movies and Nintendo games then the ones in the chart. Also:

>comparing those classic novels to any fuckig video game

Kill yourself
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>max payne 2
i will never understand this meme.
the game was the worst of all three, and i was so fucking bored with it, from the weapons to the level design.
1>>3>>>>2
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>>386020715
>the departed
Not putting Infernal Affairs instead shows your pleb.
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>>386023720
Anon, 2 of those 3 "classic" novels are horrible overrated shit for teenagers
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>The Departed

Figuratively fuck off
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>>386023071
>What is good taste?
Generally speaking, good taste is what consensus of people who have been given authority (by achieving certain degree of popularity, education, position of power etc...) roughly agree on it to be. It's a set of norms or expectations pushed forward on the particular community by those who are deemed to be the most educated and worth listening to.

Of course, this means that it changes consistently - over time, from particular social group to another, between media, ect... Also, since it's all tenatious, it has "fuzzy borders", that is to say you can't even precisely pin-point who is an authority, or what is the consensus, as even within those people you'll find lower-level contradictions etc...
It evolves as a discourse - displaying certain patterns and tendencies, but rarely rigid rules.

That said, there are some trends that TEND to be stressed out as part of a "good taste" idea. These beings:

Good taste should involve willgness to challenge yourself. That is: to seek works that might be outside your particular comfort zone, work that might be distressing, might require patience or effort.

Good taste usually involves recognition of formal rafinement, and often involves the ability to appreciate finer detail.

Good taste generally implies broader horizons: the ability to judge works from multiple angles, and overstep your own biases where possible. But also being able to appreciate wide variety of works.

Good taste involves education: knowledge of history or formal aspects of the medium: the ability to appreciate works of even very different era or style than the one you have been brought up in.

That is I think about it.
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>>386023387
>>386023880
thanks for your answers
now I feel less stupid
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>>386023062
>Dark Knight isn't critically acclaimed
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>>386024027
>Kizuna AI
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>>386020715
>having good taste involves an inkling to mafiosi and crime
who would have knew good taste was so simple

RETARD
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>>386021984
First line: Left
Second line: Nothing, those both are just too shit
Third line : Clearly right


What does this make me?
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>>386021984
I AM SILLY
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>>386021175
>it's all mostly common fucking sense.
well common sense slipped you but you fucking autist, because you don't know that there is no good or bad "stuff" as it is subjective
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>>386020715
Entry level taste: the image.
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>>386020715
I consider myself a gentleman of ultimate taste.
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>>386020715
Well, I've not bended my taste in games to please 4chan, so I guess so. Pic related.
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>>386020715
All those games and books are fuckked get fuckked.
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>>386023062
>critically acclaimed stuff
>zelda
>friends
>lost
>cowadoody
>pokemon

not
>Oz
>mafia
>fallout
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>>386024423
>well common sense slipped you but you fucking autist, because you don't know that there is no good or bad "stuff" as it is subjective
No, it really isn't. Good or bad are primarily normative categories, not subjective. Do you ever even leave your fucking basement? Are you not actually aware, or prepared to live in the reality, where evaluation and judgement and criticism, notions of high and low culture etc... are not only everyday reality, but also frequently extremely valuable tools of the society?

>>386024732
I think you got this whole thing backwards.
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>>386024657
Poor taste on grounds that you put multiple of the same series in your top 9 showing you don't branch out and try a variety of things.
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>>386024657
You sound like a guy who likes to get pegged by other guys wearing fake tits and dresses.
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>>386024832
No, but I would totally let a hot girl fuck me with a strap on if she wanted.
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>>386023062

Holy shit MONG calm down, okay?
I was just expressing my sympathy for your families grief for having someone so insufferable as yourself as its member.
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>>386024782
>Good or bad are primarily normative categories, not subjective
>not subjective
ok so you get a 5 year old and ask the which is good or bad
The godfather Or dora the explorer movie
what will they say?

you are a retard beyond levels of distinction
1/10 made me reply
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>>386024937
That's never going to happen to you, but i'll bet you'll get tricked by a bitch boi with a collection of dresses and then he'll cum inside you and give you aids.
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>>386024782
>listening to others opinions to create own opinions
you need to be 18 years of age to post on this board anon
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>>386025008
The bitch boi would have to have boobs.
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>>386025092
Implanted boobs and a lil boi clit.
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>>386020715
What's wrong with house? I liked the first half
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>>386024782

Look at this you insufferable nitpicking hairsplitter.
Look at this and cry your eyes out.

>normative:
>expressing value judgments as contrasted with stating facts

>subjectivity:
>judgment based on individual personal impressions and feelings and opinions rather than external facts

Hahahaha!
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>>386025154
You know what? I'd allow it. That much effort just to trick me is quite flattering.
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>>386025052
You are a fucking idiot. Opinions are created, challenged and mutated by other opinions, that's how discourse works. Are you going to tell me Plato is a moron because he listened to Socrates's opinions?
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>>386023809
Shit they are? Well thanks for letting me know, now I can pretend the decades of relevance don't matter anymore because you said so. Hey everyone, you heard him, they're shit. I know pretty much all of humanity has been saying otherwise for the last 60-150 years or so, but this anon says they're shit, so we can all just move along now.
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>>386024967
I would ask someone with more authority and experience than a 5 years old. Not eveyone's opinion has the same weight, you retard, that is the point. If you seriously think an opinion about movie of a 5 years old, and of a 50 years old classic cinema and literature professor with great renome and actual acomplishments in the field are worth exactly the same thing, then YOU have a major problem.

The fucking point, you retard, is that subjective feelings little fucking relevance: precisely for the reason you described.

>>386025052
What the fuck have we even done to your generation? Seriously, how did we screw up so badly?
You literally cannot comprehend the idea of authority, or the notion that one should challenge his own views and appreciate and take advantage of the IMMENSE collective knowledge and wisdom that we had succesfuly created over thousands of years and that we call "culture".

This is pathetic. You are basically associal, actually not understanding notions such as "authority", "education", "criticism", "academia" etc... This is beyond fucking disturbing.
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>>386025235
He's a fucking Mickey Mouse dog in a world of talking animals. Of course he's a moron.
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>>386025235
Plato is a moron because he could have easily passed off Socrates' doctrines as his own. He made Socrates a greater legend than himself.
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>>386020715
what the fuck is wrong with friends you fucking dick
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>>386025235
You sound like you're well educated. You should stop coming to 4chan, it's wasted here.
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>>386025225
That's awesome.
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>>386025221
Where did you get those amazing definitions?

Because here is a definition from Wikipedia:
>In philosophy, normative statements make claims about how things should or ought to be, how to value them, which things are good or bad, and which actions are right or wrong.

More detailed description:
>Normative generally means relating to an evaluative standard. Normativity is the phenomenon in human societies of designating some actions or outcomes as good or desirable or permissible and others as bad or undesirable or impermissible. A norm in this normative sense means a standard for evaluating or making judgments about behavior or outcomes.
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>>386025330
Plato was honoring his teacher and said teacher's death, which is really the most tropy and cheesy thing ever, but the fact that it worked so splendidly, in reality, makes it cool.
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