Hollow Knight update waiting thread

>>386020586
>still have to wait like 4 hours or so

Just kill me

>Achievements
>You have unlocked 52/54 (96%)
REEEEEEEEEEEE

will it be kino?

>>386021204
No because it's a game and not a fucking cinema movie.

>>386021204
expecting dungkino and zoteflick

>>386020586
Haha, same here. Think they'll pull a Shovel Knight and continually pull you back?

Well, least you can just boot up a 100% save and gun it down. I hope, anyway.

>>386020886
Damn, kudos to you if you did the steel soul 100% achievement

I wonder what they added besides the announced things. They said that they had also had time to add some other things.

>>386020586
I m 18 hours in After finishing Kingdoms Edge boss, but I feel like Im missing a lot of things. Is there some permanently missable thing? Or very important npc quest? For instance, I never saw Cloth after my first encounter with her

>>386022737
>Is there some permanently missable thing?

No, nothing important aside from maybe saving Zote, but I am not sure about this.

>>386021714
Just quit when you get to 1/2 hearts. Resets you to the nearest bench. It's basically playing with a handicap.

4 and half hours to go according to reddit

I've been waiting for the patch to start my second run and thought the patch would be out when I get out from work a hour from now. Feels bad man

>>386022737
Cloth actually isn't permanently missable, she's just dicking around in some remote corner or other.

I miss her on my first playthrough, but you know that area in the Ancient Basin where you find the mask shard? She's around there.

>>386022917
Not the mask shard, the pale ore. Whatever.

whats the update add, exactly?

>>386021434
you can

shit, pretentious game

do we have any info on what this is all about?

have they done anything like this before?

I only played through and beat this game a few weeks ago when it was on sale for $10.

I'm curious how they go about adding content to a metroidvania-type game. Do they add new areas to some corner of the map? Do they add things to existing areas? Do they pull a Dark Souls and have you teleport to a distant land?

Spoonfeeding everyone asking what will be in the update:

So whaddya get? Here’s the rundown:

2 New Bosses - Leap into battle with the mightiest foes! These epic new duels will test even the most skilled of players. Each fight grants rewards to the victor, though note: Engaging with each imposing boss is entirely optional! Who are these enigmatic, impossible-to-discern figures? We’re not telling! It’s up to you to find out!

2 New Tracks - Epic battles need epic music and Chris’s been preparing just that, with stirring new boss themes for each encounter! He's gone all out on these ones!

New Upgrade: Dream Gate - Discover a whole new method of traversing Hallownest! Slice through the Veil and travel in an instant from one corner of the kingdom to another.

A New Stag Station Uncovered - Hallownest’s stags once travelled the breadth of the kingdom, but with the departure of the King, one station was walled away, hidden from bugs and forgotten by stags, until now!


Hollow Knight: Hidden Dreams content is accessible at any point in the game, whether starting fresh or scouring for completion.

>>386023302
There will be a new stag station that presumably leads to a new zone featuring two new bosses and other stuff.

There are gonna be bigger paid updates, right?

>>386023474
You realize they are all free, do you?

>>386023027
2 bosses and some new quick travel item

While I'm grateful that they're adding new content, it bewilders me that they aren't instead working on some sequel

>>386023614
There's no way to tell they aren't

>>386023552
No, that's why i asked. I don't mind good dlcs either.

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>>386023569
Will this quick travel item appear by midgame? Otherwise I think I'm not too excited. It's around then the game becomes a meme to travel around

>>386023552
>You realize they are all free
They said a couple of the minor ones are free, IIRC they've darted around the idea of the Hornet DLC being free often enough that you can assume it's going to cost a tenner.

>>386023882
When else do you want it?

>>386023882
It's the dream gate stuff they teased in the Kickstarter, that just triggered when you lobbed your dream nail at the Elderbug. So whenever you grab the nail, I guess.

>>386023614
They have a good deal of kickstarter promises to owe up to yet. Fuck them if they drop those in favor of doing something else.

>>386023614
At least they didn't go the Shovel Knight route and spend years updating a game, time they could've well used to just make a new one, over their dumb Kickstarter promises.

>>386022837
I bullied him in the colloseum, I hope je is ok now

>>386020586
That new stagstation better be in fucking deepnest. Shit was a pain to keep travelling back and forward too.

>>386024554
It's a stag station to the new area duh.
Deepnest already has both a train station and a stag station.

>>386024554
I could use a shortcut to Ancient Basin.

Deepnest already has shortcuts at 2/3 ends. And also is like 3 areas large.

keep bumping this thread until 2 hours

So lore-wise, is this game a giant 40k reference?

>>386020586
i am not even finished with the game let alone have the true ending or speedrun achievements :P i love it. the game is amazing, little nightmares was also amazing as was edit finch how the fuck are there suddenly really fucking good indy games !?

>>386025394
Pretty much copy pasted 40k, lazy writing

>>386025490
Nice blog faggot.

>:P

>>>/r/eddit

>>386025394
>>386025589

the fuck are you talking about

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>>386020586
Aspids can suck a meaty caterpillar cock.
>trying to do the trial of the fool
>All they ever do is fly circles around you and spit acid

>>386025490
>>386025606
Don't listen to this guy, I also love this game, it actually got me interested in games again after a bit of a lull

>start playing this game because /v/ shilled this le hardcure dark souls metroidvania
>game is shit

wew

>>386025706
Big K - Big E
Ancient Wyrm/Radiance/Plague - Chaos/Warp
Soul Twisters - Thousand Sons
soul magic - psyker magic
to name a few ""similarities""

>>386025394
>>386025589
is that where generic "le corruption" storyline originally comes from? it makes me think of WoW and Terraria

>>386025917
I'm pretty sure "le corruption" storyline has been around since Romans and Greeks, it's just that the way things unfolded in HK is eerily similar to 40k

>>386025913

The king and the radiance have next to no similarities to the emperor and the warp.

Soul twister and thousand sons sure why the fuck not but you might as well claim any group that betrayed their king to go practice sorcery is a rip off of the thousand sons, which they aren't, it's just a common trope in fiction, jesus christ.

And soul magic behaves nothing like psyker magic

>>386025887
Fuck off La Mulana fag

>>386025913
>Big K - Big E
>Ancient Wyrm/Radiance/Plague - Chaos/Warp

Nah, not seeing it.

The dumb soul niggers, maybe, but that entire level otherwise is just a Castlevania reference in the same way the Fog Canyon level is Metroid reference.

will the new bosses actually be new or just dream versions of old bosses?

>>386026415
Dream versions of Zote and Ogrim.

>>386026415

There's dream in the title anon
And you can see the silhouettes of dung defender and zote on the cover

So I'm pretty sure they're gonna be 100% new bosses

>>386026492
>of Zote

Yeah that makes sense considering he isn't a fucking boss to begin with.

>>386026607

he is
he just can't hurt you and dies in one hit

This game is fucking shit. Played till first boss. Very fucking boring. If you enjoy such dumbed down gameplay then you are legitimately retarded.

>>386026760
git gud

>>386026760

>Played till first boss

you made that obvious enough with the rest of your post

>>386026760
how is it boring and dumbed down?

>>386026760
>le Eric 4Chan post
Good arguement

So lets talk about how shit Sundered was

Fuck I'm disappointed.

I wanted exploration and lore and I'm constantly being interrupted by massive swarms of basic mooks that I can't fight in any other fashion than stand in place and mash the attack button hoping to hold them off.

Why a game thinks throwing so many ennemies at you but limiting your number of dodges and giving your no air dodge whatsoever is okay is beyond me.

>>386026950
Well speaking of Sundered...are there any other good recent "metroidvania's" that have as good art design, OST, and world/level design as HK? Also to reiterate...recent

>>386026950
>let's derail this thread and talk about a different game

Fuck off.

>>386026950
>enemies can move through terrain
>enemies can shoot through terrain
>enemies have no placement, they just get spawned periodically wherever you are
Honestly, the game is best played as background noise when listening to a podcast

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HK ruined other Metroidvanias for me. I'm trying to play Rabi-Ribi now but it sucks ass in comparison

>>386027056

Not anything more recent than Guacamelee.

>>386026950
why did you buy into the sundered meme?

jotun is the definition of all style and no substance, of course this new game they made was going to be shit

>>386020586
>tfw still haven't played it but bought it
feelsniceman

>>386027271
I mean it's pretty top tier, I beat Ori after it and still thought Ori was great, playing through SOTN now which is also great but HK got so much right

>>386027063
whatever keeps the thread alive man

>>386027354

Didnt follow jotun so I had no idea, plus on videos the frantic combat looked fun, which it honestly was, for the first couple hours

But going through every area having to get buttfucked by a horde every 30 fucking seconds is the such a grind when I'm just trying to explore.

>>386026950
I had fun with it

why is he hollow? and is he really a knight? did the queen of england approve?

>>386027473
If you get the shield upgrades you can stand in almost everything later on

>>386026182
>The king and the radiance have next to no similarities to the emperor and the warp
BAHAHAHAH

>>386025740
Do you have the pure nail? Do you have all the sword techs? If yes to both, equip the nailmaster charm, abuse charge attacks and end those little shits

>>386027551

King made him and knighted him, so it's legit

he's hollow because he needs to get filled with the orange goo, he's just the cookie in the oreo

>>386027739

Nice shitpost and lack of arguement there bud :^)

>>386026643
>dies in one hit
I had to wail on that retard like 20 times before he got KO'd

>>386027787
So the story is basically the created the original hollow knight to take on the infection and be sealed away to keep it from spreading, but it was flawed, and you are the real hollow knight who can succeed right?

>>386027854
Why, I am thankful for this unexpected compliment :^)

>>386023059
>>386025887
>>386026760
meme shit gamers

>>386027935

Yeah that's the gist of it, add to that that hollow knights were crafted out of some black substance that the king understood poorly and thought was without will, but it actually carries a strong will that ultimately prevails and just kills the old god responsible for the infection.

>>386027854
>king so radiant you can go blind by looking at him too much
>try to make everyone forget about shit that corrupts by any means necessary
>everyone loves him so much they begin to worship him after he's gone
>radiance was there before the king and ruled over the moths
>once it's forgotten almost entirely it begins to influence and control people through fucking dreams
>seeks to destroy everything the king built

Alright i got £11.99 after refunding The Long Dark
Should i buy this or Rain World?

>>386028628
Hollow Knight can get a bit rote.
Rain World can get a lot not fun.

>>386028628
pirate both because £11.99 isn't enough money for either

>>386028772
you mean they aren't worth 11.99 or i cant purchase it with 11.99? because Hollow Knight is 10.99 and Rain world is only £3 more

>>386028772

>you get 40+ hours for 15€ and 3 free dlc, it's not enough

kys.

>>386028498
Man you're grasping at straws there, half of the points are really pushing it. You'd have to be a complete schizo to call something as vague as this a reference. People that call it DaS plagiarism have more ground than you do.

WHERE THE SWITCH VERSION

>>386028498

None of this is unique to 40k, you might as well try to argue Dark Souls is a 40k ripoff, which is similarly retarded.

You sound like someone that only knows one story and thinks any story using some similar tropes is the exact same.

Where are the important features of the chaos ? You know, being the flip side of psyker powers and an ever growing force that will always exist as long as magic exist, as a reflection of the darkness in every psyker race's heart ? Oh wait, that doesn't apply to the Radiance at all, since it's an old benevolent god driven mad by imprisonment that has no relation with soul magic at all. Mmmh, really makes you think.

Where's the part where the Emperor is toying with dark, unknowable forces to challenge an old god and build litteral clay men by pillaging an old kingdom that nobody remembers of its science ? Oh wait, the emperor didn't do that because he's literally an uncorruptible force of good, not a jealous monarch that tried to take the place of a god in his people's heart.

So yeah, just no. You have literally nothing of substance to base this comparison on, just shallow similarities that could be found in a lot of other sources, and are in fact things that 40k directly lifted from christian mythos. Fuck out of here.

>>386020886
Yeah, I'm going to try for Steel Soul, and I already got a 100% run, but I just can't fathom doing both without doing it the cheesy way you suggested. Maybe one day.

>>386028772

>>You'll never be such a fucking bored neet that you just lurk in threads of games you didn't like to tell everyone that asks about it that the game is bad

jesus fucking christ dude

>>386028878
I thought you couldn't purchase it but it looks like steam 'adjusted' the price in eurobucks for my region
>>386028949
I recommend some reading comprehension classes and a good goy pill

Is it actually going to be worth playing for a couple new bosses and small features or should I just wait for the playable Hornet update?

Where the fuck is my update

>>386029278

You should probably do neither and just kill yourself

>>386029278
I heard that the stuff can be accessed whether you're just playing the game normally, or trying to clear stuff out in the endgame. You might as well hop in and track down the new features. It sounds like the bosses aren't going to be easy

>>386029208
>I recommend some reading comprehension classes and a good goy pill

I recomment you to kill yourself after you learned how to write proper English instead of ambiguous sentences, you stupid cunt.

>>386029278
>playable Hornet update
WHAT?

>>386029278
Not unless you can just boot up a completed save and backtrack, no.

>>386029343
Fuckin' badass my man
>>386029371
I might check it out, I'm wondering if Hornet is going to be the whole game again, then I'd probably just wait to play as her to check out the new content honestly.

>>386024202
Plague knight's campaign was better than the original.

>>386029420

It was planned since the kickstarter my man, they're working on it but I wouldn't hold my breath that's it's coming anytime soon, I'd give them a year

>>386026760
what was your first boss you can like fight 4 different bosses as "first"?

>>386029395
>"isn't enough" is the same thing as "is too much"
fuck you faggot, I love my ambiguity

>>386029614

Nobody's gonna skip false knight on their first playthrough, it's way too hard to miss

>>386029478
I'm pretty sure you can do exactly that

>>386029498
I hadn't considered that. Although, if it's a Shovel Knight style thing, then the new stuff might not even be in the Hornet campaign - we don't even know if she has access to Dream stuff

>>386029612
didnt even know this was a kickstarted game lol sooo kickstarter can actually fund amazing games the more you knowlol

>>386029730
I would be okay with playing the same game again as her as long as they at least retune enemies and bosses to work with her. I don't imagine them redesigning an entire world in a Metroidvania so they'll probably just make her mobility similar. Though changing all the levels for Specter Knight was no small task either for YCG.

>>386029742
Whyre you typing like a 14 year old?

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>>386029143
What cheesy way?
I got it legit, even the speedrun one at the same time, it's really easy when you know everything already.

>>386029889

I doubt that, it's way too easy to see how her mobility would work with her threads for them to just forget it and give her the same abilities as the knight

>>386030020

Emergency ejecting from the game when things get hairy isn't exactly a legit ironman run

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Wait, the update is today?
Oooh shit, I can't wait to see what kind of crazy bullshit Dream Zote is gonna pull.

>>386030148
As long as her attacks are different, I'm alright. I'd like it if they actually made it so the needle does a good bit of damage, but you're committed to it once you throw it, just like she was as a boss. Maybe you can find some trinket that lets you cancel.

>>386030213
Never did that, I actually died 5 hours in on my first run when I got a bit ballsy in the Ancient Basin.

>>386030332
I sincerely hope it's a hard as fuck fight but it's structured like a joke fight, like Zote inside his dream is super buff and massive and has a nail that's been folded over 9000 times.

I remember playing this game and being very disappointed on how the dreamers like herrah the beast and the other two weren't actually boss fights

I loved exploring their respective areas and thought they were pretty unique and well designed, but it was just so unsatisfying having them be a QTE

>>386030358

Well that's what the post you were replying to was referencing, even tho the reply chain is a bit confusing

>>386022861
>Just quit when you get to 1/2 hearts. Resets you to the nearest bench. It's basically playing with a handicap.

>>386030420
It was weird, I really expected the Dreamers to actually be bosses.

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>>386030398
I hope it's super hard but in a fair way, like Hornet.
If they give him a bunch of adds that attack you in the middle of the fight like Lost Kin, I'm gonna rip my hair out.
I hope he has the same model as the non-dream version, only he moves super fucking fast and gracefully.
>>386030420
Same here. Herrah especially feels so much like she should be a boss that I actually thought she was bugged or something on my first playthrough.

>>386030213
Fuck the legit iron man run. Those fatass bukkake balls in the Arena's second trial still give me shit, even after the Trial of Fools don't.

>>386030420
While Hollow Knight does a lot of amazing things, it also has big disappointments. That and Tiso not being a boss in the colosseum, like c'mon now. He dies like a bitch.

>>386030571
>tfw clobbered both hornet fights and lost kin and his dream form the first time
The one boss that killed me more than anyone else was the failed champion.

>>386030601

They're not that bad, just focus one

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>>386020886

>>386030634
The good ol' "Oh shit we ran out of money."

>>386030746
>he got Steel Heart before he actually gunned for Speed Completion
Madman.

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>>386030420
It's ridiculous. That spot on the left seems like the most obvious spooky boss arena ever.

>>386030661
I beat both Hornets easily too, but Lost Kin fucked me hard. Probably because I only had a channeled nail, and shit for health. I fought him as soon as I got to him.

>tfw can't play this game because the game lags on my shitty chink Packard Bell bitch ass PC

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>get to white palace
>it's a fucking super meat boy level

>>386030956
*laptop

>>386030818

Deepnest in general feels like it's missing a climax, but at the same time I don't dislike it. Part of what i absolutely love about hollow knight is that every zone has its own rythm and challenges to it, and does not follow the same general structure of advance, shortcut, advance, shortcut, boss.

Deepnest felt great precisely because of the lack of shortcuts, the overabundance of hidden pathways, and the lack of a big overarching threat. The threat is the environment, and hidden ennemeis.

>>386030956
Jesus, man, that's pretty bad. I'm running a fairly bad laptop myself and didn't get that shit.

>>386031015

its more like five or six super meat boy levels strung together, length-wise

>>386031015
same, it's way too fucking long and it rewards you with a piece of mask

If the two new bosses are dream bosses I really hope they're unique. I don't want to fight a slightly more aggressive Dung Defender. Zote is probably gonna be more unique because the fight against him is a joke, so seeing a "serious" version of him is going to be interesting.

>>386031069
Deepnest had its fair share of surprises, like the parastic corpse spiders and the midwife.

>>386031138
>>386031156
Yeah but then you can get cheeky and find some shortcuts I'm certain the devs put in intentionally, I've skipped quite a few segments by bouncing off spikes and sawblades with my nail

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>>386031015
>going through on Steel Heart and just abusing the shit out of all the section-skips and buzzsaw-pogosticking

>>386031128
When I press buttons the game responds after 5 seconds.

>>386030956
>tfw game lags on my super beefy desktop unless I restart the whole computer before opening it

I almost didn't play it because of this shit

>>386031235
would dying there really end your run? You're in a dream area during the whole thing, it's not like you leave a shade behind

>>386031069
Yeah, but the way they build it up at the end REALLY makes it feel like you're about to fight something big and horrifying.
>"You must be tired. Have a rest."
>"You are very tired. Please sit."
>"Sit down and relax."
>"It's comfy"
>"Pls sit"
>Nightmare-inducing scene ensues
>Wake up at the bottom of a spider-infested shithole
>Fight your way through a gauntlet of big stronk spiders
>There is no boss
>Just "hit this thing a couple of times like a fucking Piñata until essence pops out"

>>386028682

I loved HK from beginning to end but I couldn't tell you the last time I played a similar style of game. Long Dark is fun if you like elemental survival. It's a brutal game but not too stressful. I started Raim World last night and ragequit after about three hours but it seems like it will be fun. All three games are totally different but have great concepts and artstyle.

>>386031228

The devs patched out some notorious skips over the last few months, so those skips you're talking about might not be in the game now

>>386031393
I just did them like two weeks ago though.

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>>386031235
I didn't even know about the regular skips when I did it.

>>386031367

I agree, but at the same time I like this anticlimax in a game more focused on exploration than combat, I don't know. Hollow knight is one of thoe games where I'd rather find a new piece of dialog than a new boss, it's weird like that.

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>>386031542
I guess I can see that. Since I found Herrah first, I didn't know how to deal with dream """"bosses"""", so I hit her a bunch with the dream nail.
>Mfw reading through her thoughts

>>386031337
I didn't even think of that. It sounds like Watcher Knights and Trial of Fools are the only things to worry about then, since you can't actually die against dream bosses or White Palace, and Radiance doesn't count towards 100%

>>386031015
Look up a video with al the shortcuts in the white place. You can skip like half of it. It blew my mind

>>386031337
Are you really going to take that risk?

>>386031804
Hell no I wouldn't

>>386031235
>doing it the stupid "meat boy" way
>get to the spear trap things on walls
>FUCK THIS SHIT THIS IS IMPOS-
>remember that I can just jump over almost everything with the nail, especially with the mantis charm
>feel like a dumbfuck as every challenge after that feels way easier than it looks
I hated myself for not doing it earlier, there are section-skips everywhere and I know I missed most of them. This shit was definitively intentional.

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>>386030812
Actually I got them both at the same time

if I loved the art, OST, world building and level design of HK and want a game with just as cohesive as a design as HK...what other game to get

>>386030634
>>386030776
The way the Hunter does a fake boss intro when you complete the log screams that especially.

>>386033007
Dork Souls

>>386033189
Ok true but besides that

>>386032931
Hey buddy, you better watch out, he knows about timed hits.

I wish Quirrel would come back

>>386033370
Maybe La Mulana, though it is more focused on puzzles and "mystery building" rather than combat and a world building. also different artstyle. Hard to find very similar games when things like good world building are already rare on their own.

>>386033007
Man I don't fucking know. Not many of these games that attempt this come out, that's pretty much how Hollow Knight just soared.

Gothic did worldbuilding really well, and that's all that comes to mind.

Do we have a precise hour ? Or is it "august 8 between midnight and midnight" ?

it's out now

torrent when

Is there a point of no return in this game? Like when you progress so far you can't backtrack anymore.

UPDATE IS OUT

>>386034896
After getting a certain item you're locked out of the first ending. Other than that no.

what is this game about?
can I get a full green text rundown?

>>386034896

No such thing
You can even resume your progress for the other endings after getting one ending, tho one of the bad ending is permanently closed off once you progress enough in the story.

>>386034943
it's metroid with a sword instead of a gun

>it's downloading
cool, what is it?

>>386034943

Literally dark souls with bugs
You're a hollow bug unraveling the mysteries of the fall of a great bug kingdom, and ultimately find the means to save it from an ancient evil, but at a great cost

There is one thing about the game's lore that I've been wondering about.
At the start of the game, the main character arrives to Hollownest seemingly journeyed from somewhere, later we learn that he was one of the creations that climbed out of abyss. What happened between those two points?

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>>386035324
Nobody besides the developers rightfully know.
Anyway, now to hunt down new content.
>>386035063
2 new Dream Bosses.

>>386035486
neat.

>>386035324

He traveled a lot.
Hornet mentions when you meet her in the city of rain that having seen the world outside of hallownest made him stronger. She uses the sentence "born of two voids" to express this : first void is obviously the abyss, but the other void seems to be the outside world, implying there's nothing really riveting out there.

This pure emptiness is supposedly what makes him a better vessel than the other hollow knight, allowing him to be a vessel for either the radiance or the void depending on the ending you go for.

>>386035482
cucked m8

>>386035482

Get cucked nerd
Zote Chad The Alpha claims all your waifus.

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>>386035486
>"Dark Romance"
>Zote already cucked the main character

New Zote stuff is found in the fan girl's apartment.

>>386035652

I think its more linked to the fact that Zota imagine himself a hero but has only negative feelings that push him this way, the supposed betrayal of his mother, his hate for his father, and his contempt for pretty much everyone else.

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FIRST TRY

>>386035486
Wait, does this mean you can't fight the new zote dream boss if you leave him to die?

>>386034943
Metroid, except melee and much longer. Slow start though, don't judge the game by the first 2 hours.

>Just got the King's Brand just before the update was available
>Update downloaded
Shit m8s, what am I in for?

>>386035898

>battle of the blackwyrm

?????
Fuck
Was there a war in the abyss when the pale king invaded ?

>>386035932
Maybe if he dies you can then go to the place where he died and activate it on his body.

White Defender was pretty easy. Going for Zote now

How many of those content packs are they planning?

The dung Defender isn't where he was before, how do I make him appear ?

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Zote actually put up some fight

>>386036012
Probably has something to do with the bugs that still wanted to worship Radiance. Come to think of it, they did have all those damn knights for some reason, would only make sense that there were wars.

I don't get it, where are the bosses?

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>>386036447
Oh what the hell

>>386036445
if he's not in his arena you need to use desolate dive to access his secret room where he sleeps

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Amazing

>>386036651
okay thanks

>>386036657
Does he have the power?

>>386036495

They had an army because they were surrounded by other kingdoms like the mantis and deepnest.

I doubt it's related to the radiance at all, there is nothing about the radiance that could ever be construed as "black", whereas whatever's in the abyss could very well be another Wyrm corpse and its forgotten kingdom

>>386024554
>Deepnest
>several zones connect to it
>has a tram
>has a stag station
fuck off

>>386036657
wait
is this zoe's or brenda's dream?

>>386036140
Agreed, but so was Poop Praetorian. Overall good fight, maybe could do with a bit more HP.

>>386036012
Something existed in there before the king "discovered" it. I think the game implies it was a civilization older than Hallownest, but I'm not sure if the king waged a war against this civilization or if the only found old ruins and and loads of angry not-bugs trying to kill everyone.

White defender(second fight) is quite challenging

>>386036859
what's the difference between those two dreams?

>>386036859
Neither.The cuckoldry is unending holy shit.

>>386036768
I somehow figured that Blackwyrm was referring to the Wyrm king himself back when he first invaded the land? Making the Blackwyrm war the war to push the other kingdoms back in order to found Hallownest.

Although your guess is naturally as good as mine.

>>386036919

it goes further than that, the radiance calls the knight "old ennemy", which could very well be their relation to the void considering how eager the void seems to be to beat the crap out of radiance at the end. If radiance and the void were of the same kin, maybe they were wyrms too, and if they were, maybe "blackwyrm" is something to do with the abyss.

Where the fuck do you leave Zote to die for the first time? I can't remember.

>>386036651
Where is this exactly?

>>386037135
greenpath

>>386037135
upper greenpath

>>386037135
Greenpath, I think.

>>386037146
The only way to show you is if I googled it and stole a random image from some guy.
So don't be a lazy shit and google it yourself.

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>>386037146
Right underneath the platform for the poison water wheel.
>Chapter 112
I.. It's probably as bad as My Immortal.

doma doma doma

AHN FUNDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Beat them both. Both of their bestiary descriptions have "becomes more powerful with each defeat", but is it just stat increases or do they become faster or get new moves?

>>386037604
You are now aware that Dung Defender's armor isn't brown, it's just been so utterly caked in shit it turned brown.
>>386037646
I have no fucking idea, but they were both fun in their own ways.

>>386023360
i wish """""journalists"""""" and gamedevs stopped using word 'epic' so much

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additional dialogue I think

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Good to see that quick slash + fragile strength still breaks the game
>These epic new duels will test even the most skilled of players.

>>386036434
2 more free ones after this one, plus a playable Hornet DLC which may or may not be free

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fug

>>386037809
I want to fuck Hornet in the ass.

>>386037817
Check up on Breta.

>>386037794
you can keep fighting white defender everytime you beat him he gets stronger and gives you an additional dialogues

Guys, how do you connect your PS3 controller to your PC?
I had been using SCP Toolkit, but now it's not recognizing my controller the way it's supposed to.
I can't play Hollow Knight without it, you guys.
What's my fix?

>>386037049
You can't really call it cuckholdry when you werent interested in the fat creep in the first place.

>>386030571
>hornet
>super hard
yes I know you fight her twice

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>>386037785
How many times can you fight this guy?

>>386038102
BOFUNDO!

>>386037949
buy a ps4 controller and use either steam's build in stuff, or use ds4windows.
PS3 controller on PC is utter shit (just like the controller itself).

>>386037906
Different anon here, but at least I didn't get anything out of her. That really sucks. Don't feel like replaying the whole game for one fight right now.

>>386038065
"Yeah, I didn't even really like her anyway"
Said the Cuck, who was in denial

>>386038159
man why are you so obsessed with cuckoldry

>>386038139
>You need to finish Zote's Quest for this fight
Man, would've been nice if all Zote references were replaced with you if he died, new achievement.

Where's the new stag station? And the new power?

>>386038135
Some games, like Hollow Knight, understand PS4 controller nativelly, no need to use Steam or DS4Win (though you need it still around for those games that don't have native PS4 controller support).

>>386020586

don't call me boi fagget.

Is there an estimate date for the Switch release?

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>>386038159
>having standards so low that you're jealous of fucking Zote over fucking Bretta"

>>386038257
Use dream nail but hold down to place a dreamgate, hold up to teleport to it.

>>386028391
whore

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>>386032931
nothing personnel

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>Zote keeps getting adjectives added to his name the more you fight him
Nice

So you can fight the two new dream boss how many time you want and they keep getting harder
Do they even have a final form ?

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>being a cuck

>>386038159
I have Hornet, I don't give a fuck about that fatass

Oh fuck Zote does double damage after a certain point

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>>386020586
>Backtrack for hours: the game
Boring as fuck

>>386038401
>not getting the 5 hour speedrun achievement on your steel soul run, then turning that into the 100% game completion within 20 hour run afterwards

>>386020586
le indie hipster trash

>>386038570
>I have never played a Metroidvania in my life

>>386038570
Are you talking about the game or your life?

>beat Zote fight
>huh is that it?
>that was pretty easy
>wait I can beat it again
>it adds another adective
>beat it again
>yet another adjective added

Oh my god.

>>386038654
>>386038570
>this thread is going a little too well for my liking

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>x3 fucking damge

>>386038681
>need to get to the arena
>takes 20 fucking minutes
>dash dash dash dodge enemies dash dash IM HAVING SO MUCH FUUUNNNN
>need to go back there again twice
Lol you can cross the castle 5 times in 20 minutes in Aria of Sorrow, nice try tho

>>386038839

Brenda was right in dumping you
Zote's nail is much thicker and girthier

This update will confirm my theory that Zote is the early-alpha version of hollow knight that came out all wrong so the king and queen discarded him. You'll see

So you can only get the Zote fight if you save him and have the guy get Bretta? Is there anything below her room if you get him killed?

>>386039174
You can't go below her room if Zote is dead

>>386038906
>pressing buttons and using a joystick : the game

>>386039105

It kind of already did
Dream nailing him during the fight have him say that he loves Brenda more than the light or the darkness, implying he doesn't want to be a vessel and that he has his own desires

Its been established that the failed vessels were failures because they werent completely empty, they had personalities, which made them insuitable hosts for the Light.

It's a pretty simple line to draw between those two facts I'd say.

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oh come on, how many times do i have to shit can this dude

>>386038906
>Lol
you have to go back

>>386039367
I am sorry.

>>386038906
He's got a point though.

>>386039370
>common internet lingo is not allowed in my speshul sekrit club

>>386039291

I DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU GUYS FIND FUN ABOUT PRESSING BUTTONS IN DELIBERATE PATTERNS

ALSO WHATS UP WITH HAVING TO REACT TO THINGS BY PRESSING THE RIGHT BUTTON

HOW IS THAT SKILL

Who's at Zote Level Ten already? I'm at the third kill and it's already getting to be a bitch.

>>386039367

It just keeps going man
Higher than what the screen can display

>>386039497

wait untill some loser complains about your "reddit spacing", then you've really seen it all

>>386038906
So why would you ever play a game if you hate playing games?

>>386022737
You see her at the Ancient Basin and later see her again at the Queen's Garden.

>>386039601
>using reddit spacing
go back there you shitter

is the dream gate good?

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>>386039601
>>386039596
>level ten zote
oh good, it gets worse than triple damage

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Interesting. Breta sure thinks highly of him.

>>386039697

Man you know back then we only complained about people asking for what a meme meant, I miss those times

>>386039610
>missing the point this hard
when you play a game do you like going back and forth through the same room over and over and over? is that fun to you?

>>386039752
It's like a recall spell basically. You put one down and can go back to it.

>tfw can't fight Zote cause he ded

>>386039601
To be fair, some people really are way too generous with double return. You don't need to "separate thoughts" when each of those thoughts is 5 words.

>>386039817
>Why would you want to play the game? Are games fun to you?
Yeah

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>>386039596
>>386039601
>there are fifty-seven Precepts of Zote
My god

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>Zote's scream animation keep going
That's distracting how dare he cheat like this fuck

>>386039817

If the game has a lot of hidden rooms and secrets to find like this one, yes I enjoy the exploration.

Have you ever considered that enjoying the idea of metroid gameplay might be a prerequisite to enjoy metroid clones ?

>>386039958
Korean MMOs must be the epitome of game design to you then, go play those until life feels like it has meaning to you

>>386039797
So is this zote's dream or bretta's?

>>386040001
except metroid is so fucking mind numbingly boring to backtrack through

>>386039894

I prefer it personally, but preference isn't really the point, the problem is that suddendly some guy starts shitposting at you about a website you don't use for no reason other than his diseased mind having drawn a parallel between two unrelated things.

>>386039797
Does Bretta think the same of us before she meet Zote ?

>>386040084
All the dream juice flows out of Breta, so I assume it's her.
It's probably just her love made manifest with the effort she put into the statue.

>>386040172
No shit, >>386038478

>>386040147

I agree, Hollow Knight does it much better because of all the mobility tools you have access to. That's why I said the idea rather than actually enjoying metroid, which I never really did like much personally, while I love games with large maps and a ton of exploration.

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>>386039959
>the final zote battle has his title clutter the screen during the entire fight

>thought I had to strike Zote for the dream fight but realize that I left him to die
>try to remember where his body was
>it was actually Bretta all along
What the fuck.
WHY THE FUCK IS THIS GUY DOING FUCKING FOUR DAMAGE PER HIT? WHAT THE FUCK DEVS

>>386040358
You probably have to beat him nodamage in the true final fight.

>tfw only at triple damage Zote and I already feel like I'm at my limit

>>386040403
>>386040358
>>386040478
They're basically rewarding players that don't cheese the fight with massive health and facetanking it like most scumbags did with the dream fights.

If you didn't try to memorize and get better at his patterns during the first few adjectives, then you're going to get absolutely buttfucked later on. It's good design t b h

>>386040587

If only you'd get anything out of it
Those fights have great presentation but they kinda stick out like a sore thumb compared to the rest with their re-challenge gimmick that doesn't feel like it fit the rest of the game

it's out http://steamcommunity.com/games/367520/announcements/detail/1444946018254539439

>>386040773
Isma, right?

>>386040746
No shit, you stupid nigger, everyone is already talking about it for like an hour.

>>386040773

Isma

>>386040841
looks like her

>>386040773
In order:
>Grey Mourner
>Queensmould
The King
>Isma
>The one who used to wear False Knight's armor

>>386040358
>>it was actually Bretta all along
I don't get anything out of Bretta or Zotes body. Where's the fight? Gimme the fight.

>>386040993
Zote has to LIVE and steal Breta to play it.

>>386040993
Did Zote die for you? Then you can't fight him.

>>386040952

>Queesmould
>False knight's armor

the names are Dryya and Hegemol, and I don't think Dryya was a mould, she was just white

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>>386041039
>Zote has to LIVE
Oh nice-
>and steal Breta
Fuck. I never found her on my playthrough.

So, where's the hidden stag ?

>>386041174
Palace grounds

>>386040743
Yeah I hoped they'd seam them better into the game but this is fine as well. I don't need a lore reason why the dream fight persists and gets stronger but it'd be nice if there was one.

>>386041142

She's somewhere near the mantis village, not permanently missable

>have to solve like 6 captchas to post

I fucking hate 4chan sometimes

>>386041039
>>386041050
Anon talked about Zote's body, so I assumed it was possible even with his death. That's bullshit.
I could spend time with gitting gud against Dream Dung, but that's kinda lame.

>>386041257
Yeah it's annoying, I still hope they'll make it so you can just dream nail his corpse.

>>386041142
She's on the lower right end of the mushroom place.
>>386041109
>Dryya and Hegemol
I never bothered memorizing the names, sorry.
Dryya is probably just a named Mould unlike all the Kingsmoulds. She is physically similar and it's clear she didn't die recently.

>>386041256
I already beat Zote in the arena though, will their interaction be out of sequence then?

>>386041357
Nah, had the same problem and everything's fine

>>386041256
LEGACY CAPTCHA
Also Zote is 10 stages.

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>>386041446
Great, thanks m8.

>fighting dung defender again just makes him do double damage like the bullshit sekrit final boss
Well this sucks.

>>386041357

No idea sorry, but I'd wager not.

>>386041317

I really don't know about that, Kingsmould are single-track minded creatures and she doesnt really physically ressemble them, as they lack a face entirely, hinting at them beint empty suits of armor/shell filled with void. Dryya's corpse has a face, and Dryya had a caring personality according to the queen, hiding behind a stern exterior. Not the kind of complex traits you'd expect from a king mould.

>>386041627
both white defender and adjective zote are getting more damage but also more moves, just keep going anon

Do you get anything out of beating the bosses multiple times? Or is that feature there just because? I have to admit, the ability to re-fight bosses is pretty cool. And they get harder with each try. Makes me wonder how far you can go.

Do they just keep adding damage to Zote and Dunge Defender after the doubled damage? I feel like that's cheap but at the same time it's sort of okay because most of the time I just stacked health and this makes me have to git gud at their patterns.

Still cheap as fuck though. Fuck you Team Cherry this is my day gone.

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>Hidden Dreams is the first of 3 free content packs for Hollow Knight, and we’re packing all sorts of crazy stuff into the next ones. Keep your eyes peeled for more info and more reveals in the near future!

mfw hornet dlc will be free

>>386041732
They have scaling, each new retry they have +1 damage

Except Zote, he starts amping from lvl3

>>386042054
I hope we will ge tto chage the appearance of the character with the mask master(he was called something like that I think?)

>>386041725
>but also more moves
Oh shit, not him but I thought they were just gonna have nothing but stats ups.

>>386042087
>Has 5 damage on 7th fight
>Gotta use Lifeblood just to abuse Rage of the Fallen
Feels poopy.

>>386042087
I see, that's pretty clever. I think I like Zotes fight more. I haven't fought DD too many times, but to me he didn't seem too different from the original fight. Which was a pity. Zote was both fun and hilarious. Love that guy.

>extra Stag Station
>Dream Gate
>two Dream Bosses

Anybody know any good places to go scour for the any extra content they might have secretly added to the update? We all know they've added some.

Someone redpill me on this DLC, what actually is it?
Just some arena fights using spearbug?
Worth buying?

>>386042285
Zote just has new different things every first 3 levels:
Zotelings crawlers
Balloons

then he starts amping

>>386042307
check weavers den maybe

Switch port when?

>>386042320
It's free lad.

FREE
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>>386042320
it's free, and worth playing the new dreamboss are Dung Defender and Zote

>>386042320
>Someone redpill me on this DLC, what actually is it?
See >>386023360

>Worth buying?
It's free.

>update is like 10 minutes of new content
wow

>If Zote hits you during his sword wiggle you can't get away from him fast enough to avoid three more hits
Am I just rusty or is this some prime bullshit?

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The new boss tracks aren't in soundtrack folder.

>>386042674
Jump

>>386042674
You have to use the invincible dash

Does Phase 10 Zote get anything special?
I got up to 8 but I have to leave for work now so I won't be able to do the last 2 until way later