Which nu-iconic character was butchered worse?

fisher by far

>no ironside no buy

Sam.

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>>385983048

Michael Ironside was great but the new voice actor and mocap were good too. Also Blacklist is the best Splinter Cell game so far, as long as you turn off the UI elements and play on Perfectionist. Better than Chaos Theory even.

>>385983048
Donte and Gorrett are worse.

Sam. Not only did we lose an iconic voice, but nuSam is literally what old sam would have been if ironside didn't make them actually give him some character. He's just a mindless soldier taking orders now

>>385983048

Laura is better now.

Sam is the same shit as always

>>385983306
>He's just a mindless soldier taking orders now

You didn't even play the game, moron

>>385983048
I had no problems with either of them desu.

>>385983375
Yes I did and you know I'm right

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>>385983261
>better than CT

>>385983306
He's actually the boss of 4E.

>>385983460
How are you right? Again, did you play the game? Sam takes charge regularly throughout the campaign.

>>385983805
Nah he doesnt

>>385983261
The mocap and Sam's body language was truly A+. I wish they made it next gen so that the faces would be better.

>>385983894
He's literally put in charge by the POTUS and lot of conflict in the storyline comes from him trying to make the right decision while the secondary characters give him advice.

>>385984064
It was, I'm convinced the people talking shit have no appreciation for body language/facial expressions. New Sam is pretty great, just in a subtler way than Ironside's Sam was. The whole cast was pretty great honestly.

>>385984819
I was just pissed at him having a shitty script. It's clear the guy can threaten people well, why not have him fuck with the guards?

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Step aside

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asM9guG7KlE

>>385983106
>>385983261
>>385983306
Why did they stop using Ironside?

>>385985640
I didn't even play it, what went wrong?

>>385987426
something about Ironside not liking the character plus he felt he was too old to do the mocap.

>>385987714
Actually sounds like pretty fair reasoning tbhwu

>>385987714
They couldn't hire someone to do mocap and still have him do voice lines?

>>385987426
Two versions
>Ubi wanted to do motion and facial capture for Sam but Ironside is old and out of shape, so they brought in a 6'2 Chad
or
>Ironside got tired of the role or didn't like the way Sam was going, so the opted out of the contract and Ubi had to bring in someone else

The truth is somewhere in the middle. At least they parted on good terms and Ironside talked with the new guy and gave him his blessing.

>>385983261
>Blacklist
>best SC
Ehhh I do rate it highly but the levels in Blacklist were way too boring overall. Not enough skyscrapers and exotic locations to inflitrate.

>>385987883
I'm not an expert, but it seems expensive and a hassle? Or maybe Ironside simply didn't want to continue at all.

>>385987957
Gitmo, Iran and the supermarket were really good though. That one co-op mission where you break into some secret Russian headquarters and go through a former insane asylum was fantastic as well.

Sam, obviously.
They should've killed him and made Sarah an operator and the protagonist.

>>385988249
Fair enough, I guess. I just miss that voice.

>>385988702
That's retarded.

>>385983048

The one that didn't sexually arouse me.

>>385990418
Yeah, Sam's pretty damn hot.