Now that the dust has settled, what went wrong?
nu-FF is garbage, bring back the turn based system.
at first i was a little alienated by the battle system and the absence of cutscenes but as I played it I absolutely loved it.
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>>385965347
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Tabata should absolutely be given a big budget. he managed to shape Nomura's random seemingly inapplicable ideas into a proper game. I mean nomura is a great fucking designer but he is shit at directing games.
>>385965347
>bring back the turn based system
bring back mediocrity ? only VI had a good system (for the time) FF games were never that great when it comes to turn based.
>>385965287
I've got to assume some kind of japanese business autism. Don't know how else do you explain spending so long on something so underwhelming.
>adventure with your bros
You can't do anything with them, you fish alone, you attend carnivals alone, Prompto occasionally asks you who he should take photos of that's it.
>>385965979
>You can't do anything with them
you fight with them. seriously wtf did you want to do ?
post more art.
negative FF XV op, get positive answers.
positive FF XII op, gets negative answers.
>>385965287
not enought Lunafeet
>>385966845
>not enought Luna feet
>>385965972
>only VI had a good system
ATB and all other individual queued turn systems are extremely boring and casual, especially in regards to how healing is handled.
Turns need to be the full party's script to allow for any sort of tension or strategic thinking.
>>385967218
FFX's turn system was the perfect evolution from ATB. An FF Jobs game with that battle system would be the bees knees, set in Ivalice ideally.
>>385967019
Die foot fetish scum. Iris should have been the lead girl.
>>385965287
this game's battle system is seriously fun as fuck. once you unlock every ability for noctis the games combat feels much better, especially since you can do an aerial recovery type thing. dodging attacks with the air dance is fun but also the zwill crossblades are insane.
It's just kind of bland and it underutilizes its cast of characters.
Plus there's plot points in the dumb movie that they should have just included in the game.
Go away ancientfag and take your turn based boredom with you. The combat system is amazing, only downside being the spells that hit the three stooges every time you cast them.
>>385967710
What do you love about Ivalice? I always thought the races looked wonky, but it was my hate of SRPGs that keeps me from playing Tactics. What is it that stands out about Ivalice that makes you crave more?
I just open these threads to see him autistically lose his shit.
shin megami tensei games did turn based so well, they killed the system for any other game.
that said a FF akin to Valkyria Chronicles, turn based with tactics in a fully 3D environment would be fucking awesome.
This game was actually fine until the train. After that it turned into garbage. This game is only second to Bionic Commando in obviousness in the shit they cut out for time.
>Mfw people hate ff15 and ff8 but they have the best soundtracks
>>385969881
>After that it turned into garbage
I honestly never understood the over reaction to this. if anything the game needed more things like that to break the openworld fetch quest monotony
>>385965287
>>385965287
>what went wrong?
A creatively bankrupt director, long development cycle, and finally constant creepy schilling/white knighting threads on /v/ for 4 FUCKING YEARS killing any potential interest or discussion for the game.
>>385965287
Not enough Cor...
>>385969034
Fucking play tactics. It's one of the best final fantasy games period
>>385970662
I don't disagree with you but everything after the train was horrible rushed and half assed.
>>385970886
I love how he appears for like 30 minutes at the beginning of the game and then fucks off for the entirety of the game.
>>385965287
Not finished to the point that they can't fix it with updates and now they're turning it into some weird online game for some bizarre reason.
>>385970749
>A creatively bankrupt director
objectively every one of his games was a clear improvement over his last. most of them PSP games. if anything he managed to make a game out of a mess.
> long development cycle
you mean years of nomura's inapplicable convoluted ideas because he doesn't know what each game engine can or can't do. great designer / bad director.
>>385970935
Well most of the stuff before the train was also half assed, so the game is at least consistent in that regard.
>>385971070
Hey come on, he appears for like a whole minute before you go to notVenice. Apparently he's also in the DLC, but whatever.
>>385971125
>FFXV
>online multiplayer
Still rustles my jimmies. I mean leave the MMOs to FFXIV.
>>385971125
>Not finished
that's a bit of a meme. they just made the retarded decision to make DLCs out of each character's arcs.
>>385965287
>Game jerks itself off over how nice the Regalia is
>Can't even drive it, it just sticks to the road like a train on tracks
SE should put FF to rest for awhile. They will continue to fuck upon at this rate.
>>385971070
He was supposed to appear in the World of Ruin chapter in Lestallum with Iris and it was supposedly close to being finished but it was cut anyway...
>>385971393
>that's a bit of a meme
No, it's not.
>>385971393
I was talking about the last half of the game that got shafted because they didn't have enough time to finish that part of the world. But yeah the character arcs being dlc is also dumb as fuck.
>>385971517
Cor probably trained Iris to be a daemon slayer come to think of it, we may get that in the World of ruin multiplayer DLC. Not that I'm paying for multiplayer...
>>385971516
During the PS1 era they shat out new FF games every two years and it was arguably the peak of the franchise in both quality and popularity
What SE needs is direction, someone who can lead the game in a proper direction instead of corporate meddling
They have fucking Dragon Quest right next to them which is obviously mower budget than FF and sold 2 million in two days in Japan while XV hasnt reach its first million yet, they could learn something
What was the deal with Ardyn anyway?
I don't remember the main game ever really going into why he's the bad guy. He just seems to be a footnote in the story for most of the game.
Been playing FF5 for the first time recentlyjust got to world 3. Game's pretty fun,and Exdeath just seems so much more well realized than Ardyn that it's kind of ridiculous. It's not like Exdeath's a deep villain or anything, but he such a greater presence.
yo.
the world is literally empty. I mean put something to do in there, seriously
>>385972906
This. I'm confused as to why so many people are listing Ardyn as one of their favorite villains when he really didn't do anything.
>>385970893
That wasn't what he asked. He asked what you love about Ivalice, demonstrated his view by stating "I always thought the races looked wonky", and then reiterated further by asking what it was that stands out about Ivalice that makes you crave more?
>>385965287
Combat system having a low entry point and a high skill ceiling but due to the way the game is designed (and trying to appeal to newcomers and veterans) you can basically Hold O to win most encounters
Parts of the story happen off screen and are told to you though missable newspapers or radio broadcasts
Stuff cut out and sold back as DLC
Only able to accept one hunt at a time
Only able to have one mission marker active on the map at a time
Luna was such a non character I did not give a fuck when she died. Is back when SHE IS THE MAIN LOVE INTEREST.
Overall felt like an Early Access game
when I got the Platinum I have not gone back to touch it to see if it got better.
>>385965287
still better than ff14
>>385974228
>This. I'm confused as to why so many people are listing Ardyn as one of their favorite villains when he really didn't do anything.
babies first edgelord
>>385965287
No PC release
When does the beta go live?
>>385977182
for the multiplayer?
I think it's tomorrow if you shelled out for the Season Pass
>>385976350
He has a fun design, and his VO is enjoyable too. Not really great or favorite material, but he's a fun villain.
>>385965287
Every other FF is better. Even KH is better.