Was Marche in the right?

I want to fuck Marche!

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>>385964473
I don't understand why there's so little. He's cute, has a nice ass and excellent zettai ryouiki and would look even more cute in girl's clothes.

>>385963470
Marche and Babus porn when

Pizza Man was right.

>>385964473
>every game that takes place in invalice
>butt pants everywhere
What did square enix mean with this?

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Such lickable legs.

>>385964005
>>385964473
>>385964991
I see you're a man of culture as well.

Yes he was. Everyone except mewt wanted to go back to the real world. Marche didn't want people who got turned into monsters to die simply because mewt was selfish.

>>385969631

Excuse me sir, this is a gay shota thread.

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>>385969273

>>385963470
I miss tactics games. I got so much mileage out of my GBA by playing this and Tactics Ogre; The Knight of Lodis when I was younger.

>>385969942
You and me both, anon.
>>385969834
No, Marche is not for lewd

Where are the Ritzfags to counter the gay Marche posters?

>>385970387

>Implying people like that dumb bitch

>>385970237
>>385970237
>Hey Montblanc I need to get home, can you help me?
>Sure thing, kupo
>Hey Montblanc in order to get home I need to destroy your world, is that okay?
>Triumph of the will, kupo

Montblanc is the best.

>>385970387
I like her, but I don't have any photos of her on this hard drive.
>tfw the game will never have higher resolution art, or class images

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>>385963470
It's not even escapism since the fantasy world is real. If anything, it's the kid running away to a place where he's happier.

Not even just that, but escapism is unhealthy when you neglect reality because of it. And since the Ivalice is his new reality, then it's not unhealthy in anyway. Marche is just a fucking asshole.

>>385970835
See my post about everyone wanting to go back, except for mewt. It's like you don't remember, or haven't played, the game

>>385970835
>since the fantasy world is real
You know, even Queen Remedi says that world was an illusion.
And illusion is the polar oposite of real. Did you played the game?

>>385970835

>Fantasy world is real

Did you pay no attention to the Totema fights or the final boss?

>>385963470
Wassort of a dick though

>>385971038
And why should they drag mewt back with them?

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>>385971629

Because he's being eaten by a dickass Djinn and blindly oppressing his people. This magnificent faggot is probably one of the only reasons things didn't collapse in on themselves faster.

>>385963470
Kinda

>>385971629
Because living in an illusion is living a lie. It's not healthy, especially since he would be actually alone if everyone else was gone

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>>385971347
Give me a break, it's been over a decade since I played it

I really don't want to get into the "what is reality", but unless I forgot that only their minds got transported to Ivalice, they are in a real place, even if relative to their original reality it is an illusion.

From what I recall, going to Ivalice is not like putting VR goggles on, you're quite literally transported to the fantasy realm.

>>385971871

And that makes it better how? Most of St. Ivalice's people got turned into monsters and the rest are at the mercy of the clans and the corrupt as shit crown court.

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>>385971871
>I really don't want to get into the "what is reality"
There is no need for it, it is already defined and with that, we've concluded (countles of times) that Mewt's Ivalice was the opposite of real.

>>385969884
/ss/ when?

>>385972147
But I'm not talking about the state of the crown. I'm just saying he was happier in Ivalice than back home.

>>385972184
>Defining something by saying what it is not
anon pls

>>385971792
why is that donkey looking at me like that...

>>385971629
He fucked up a shitload of people so he could have his funhouse.

>>385972582

Yeah, him and Cid. JUST him and Cid.

>>385972582
But we don't need to define it, the game itself say to you clearly that it was an illusion, what else do you need or rather, why do you try so hard to belive it was real even though it shares most of the characteristics of something not real.
This is you trying to re-define already defined terms.

>>385972582
Yes, mewt was happier to live a lie. The vast majority of the population was not. Mewt had no right to take away their happiness and freedom for his selfish reasons

>>385972721

Nu Mou. And that is the face of a man who knows he's won at life.

>>385963470
Yes, Mewt was a faggot

>>385972184
Reality is just perception. If a world you live in is perceived in the same way as any other then it is real. There is literally no difference.

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>>385972582
>ontological reductionism
Fuck yeah.

>>385972837
Happiness? None of the kids liked their previous lives. They were all miserable back on earth.

>>385972974
>Reality is just perception.
Reality is the state of things as they actually exist, rather than as they may appear or might be imagined (which happened in this game).

>>385972974
Then the only people who wanted to live in that world were mewt and cid. They still had no right to force everyone else to live there as well.
>>385973094
Yes, everyone has problems in life. But that's a hell of a lot better than being monsters or subject to cruel gangs and warfare all your life

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>>385964473
I'm not gay but

>>385973225
It's a boy anon, that's gay.

>>385963470
WHERE IS ALL THE PORN

>>385973094

And yet Marche manned the fuck up and got them back home because he saw that the world was a lie, something the rest of them either didn't have context for or chose to ignore. Hell, he had the most to lose out of all of them since he was the head of one of, if not the, most powerful clans and didn't have to burn his childhood waiting on his crippled brother.

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Marche may have been in the right, but fuck that shit man I would have fucking killed that nigga to stay in Ivalice

>>385972974
this.

but Marche was still right. I wouldn't fault him but I'd probably betray him just to keep on in the fake Ivalice

>>385973141
The Final Fantasy world existed no different than Earth. The only difference was that it was created with magic instead of atoms. You're just highlighting your inability to think abstractly.

>>385972184
That screenshot is taken out of context, btw.
She immediately follows that statement by asking if Marche really believes it.
She's not making an objective claim about Ivalice's existence, just commenting on Marche's beliefs.

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>>385973321
that looks like a man to you? Looks like a sissy girl to me

>>385973186
Marche had the opportunity to leave Mewt. And both Marche and Ritz admitted that they liked the new world better. Battling never killed anyone and everyone liked it. It wasn't "hell".

>>385963470
Is it wrong when I first played the game I thought mewt and everyone were being little bitches who just didn't want to grow up but now i can imagine playing and wanting them to live that life if they wanted?

>>385973714

>What the fuck is a Jagd?

>>385973714
>Fighting in lawless cities never killed anyone

>>385973497
More like Marche was an idiot and chose for everyone to go back to having a shitty life because he couldn't fathom the possibility that you could live just fine in a storybook.

>>385973584
>That screenshot is taken out of context, btw.
No it's not.
>She immediately follows that statement by asking if Marche really believes it.
No, she follows that statement by saying "This world is illusion. You can hold it in your hand and still be holding nothing." Thus meaning she IS, in fact, making an objetive claim about Ivalice's exietence.
>She's not making an objective claim about Ivalice's existence, just commenting on Marche's beliefs.
You're wrong, see above.

>>385973846
Not in Marche's world. They just playfight. It's a game.

>>385974010
You have never played the game if you think that no one ever died in ivalice in FFTA.

>>385973561
>You're just highlighting your inability to think abstractly.
Nah man, it seems to me you're just trying to simplify both states to make it look like they're both real when by both, definition and analysis, one was real and the other one was false.

>>385974120
You have given no "analysis". You just said the normal world is real because it is real and the other isnt because fuck you. Reality isn't anything more than sensory and perception. The world you're living in now could be an "illusion" for all you know.

>>385973141
no, reality for you is your perception of events that transpire around you

such as someone who is colorblind, won't look at a painting and see how amazing it is compared to someone who takes LSD

ultimate boiling down of this is if perception of reality can be changed, reality itself can be changed. you wouldn't know the difference, the same way someone who doesn't see or sees no colors would know the difference if something changed

FFTA2 was a better game

>The universe and the observer exist as a pair," Linde says. "You can say that the universe is there only when there is an observer who can say, Yes, I see the universe there. These small words — it looks like it was here— for practical purposes it may not matter much, but for me as a human being, I do not know any sense in which I could claim that the universe is here in the absence of observers. We are together, the universe and us. The moment you say that the universe exists without any observers, I cannot make any sense out of that. I cannot imagine a consistent theory of everything that ignores consciousness. A recording device cannot play the role of an observer, because who will read what is written on this recording device? In order for us to see that something happens, and say to one another that something happens, you need to have a universe, you need to have a recording device, and you need to have us. It's not enough for the information to be stored somewhere, completely inaccessible to anybody. It's necessary for somebody to look at it. You need an observer who looks at the universe. In the absence of observers, our universe is dead.

>>385973964
>"This world is illusion. You can hold it in your hand and still be holding nothing."
Yes, which is then followed by her asking if Marche has "accepted" that idea.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WE849SPLkc8
Watch from 0:20 to 0:30

>tfw you will never be in party full of female Bangaa

>>385977170
But bunny girls are far superior to lizards in general

>>385977393
was the matrix real for those who hadn't been unplugged?

>>385970630
It's a shame he is a bad unit.

>>385977858
True. His stats blow. I always made him a Juggler because who gives a fuck how shitty your stats are when you can just use Smile on Marche who's swinging his big Paladin dick to destroy the world.

>>385974723
I disagree. Some mechanicsgot fixed in 2 and been made to be less broken, but most were change to be worse.

>>385978189
Pretty much. I kept him magic based and turned him into a Time Mage for Haste and Quicken.

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>ffta thread
>philosophical discussion, gameplay discussions and shota marche posting

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>tfw you show up to the crystal circle totema on the day when charm is illegal, so it can't use its only attack
Why did the law card system even exist?
I honestly can't think of a single thing about FFTA's gameplay that was improved by it.

>you will never cuddle up with a viera white mage, elementalist, or red mage on cold winter nights

Marche was right for the wrong reasons. The world was unstable and it was slowly being destroyed.

>>385979271
it was just meant to encourage a well rounded team instead of cheesing one or two units

>>385971629
Why should anyone be dragged into Mewt's dream?
If you want to be a shitty dictator in your crappy made up realm go ahead, just let everyone stay out of it.

>>385979318
>The world was unstable and it was slowly being destroyed.
No it not, you dipshit. There even an alternate ending where he stay and decided to take on Cid's offer of becoming a Judge.

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Ritz is going to make love to Marche!

Mewt's Ivalice wasn't innocent. He was a dictator. People he liked had high-ranking positions of power. People he didn't like got turned into monsters and were slaughtered by Marche (remember the mission where you killed zombies that had the same names as Mewt's bullies). It was a dictatorship and also the whole dimension was falling apart.

>>385979424
The moment Marche destroyed the first Totem the world was unstable. I don't think there was any point of return from that point.

>>385979597
Even back then he didn't know that he was getting into. It was an accident that he stumbled into that first crystal and had to act.

After that, even if they wanted to stay there's no way the world would've been able to sustain itself.

>>385979560
This too. Mewt was a cunt and wanted to do everything because his milf mom allowed him to be a little shit.

>>385964473
where can I find this image now that it has been removed

>>385974723
>restricted jobs behind quests to try and at least give an attempt to balance the game
>give us auction houses and the bazaar where you can get shit like Judge Coats and top-tier weapons within like 2 hours.

>>385974736
But that's fucking wrong. Did the tree make a sound when it fell in the forest?

Shit happens all the time outside our power to observe. They could then possibly invisibly influence or affect us. Just because we can't or don't observe something, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

>>385979351
I wanna do things to him on that outfit

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Beachtime fun!

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This art is pretty bad

>>385980768
>"You may ask whether the universe really existed before you start looking at it," he says. "That's the same Schrödinger cat question. And my answer would be that the universe looks as if it existed before I started looking at it. When you open the cat's box after a week, you're going to find either a live cat or a smelly piece of meat. You can say that the cat looks as if it were dead or as if it were alive during the whole week. Likewise, when we look at the universe, the best we can say is that it looks as if it were there 10 billion years ago."