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Just got released on Pee Sea. CS3 when
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Calvard when?
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Undub when?
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>>385948515
>best girl appears in the game for literally 2 seconds
>still has an achievement icon
CS3 can't come soon enough
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>>385948515
Fixed.
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>>385948515
>no warning about release
>not enough time to request leave for the game
>have to wait until the weekend to play it
Do these people not know what marketing is?!
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>>385948705

Stop memeing there's literally nothing wrong with the English dubs. They chose excellent VAs
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>>385948994
>Do these people not know what marketing is?!
In the store the one and only video is just showing a scene with dialogue boxes and nothing else.

No they don't know what marketing is, and even if they knew they would probably spend their marketing money all wrong, like how they manage the dub.
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how did The Legend of Heroes go from this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nThfxfBbVIY

to this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGDHAfkgLME
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>>385948803
Thanks for adding Sara. What about Altina now.
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>>385949165
Good for you anon, you got what you wanted and are able to voice how well satisfied you are. But I disagree with you, I enjoy the original VA much more.
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>>385949352
Welcome to the second millennia plus seventeen.
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resume towaposting
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>>385948705
>>>/vg/184692785
Already out it seems.
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>>385949473
Not him desu, I find it hard to enjoy both equally because half of the English voices are better than the Japanese voices and half of the Japanese voices are better than the English voices.
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>Anon told me the game was $15
>It's actually $40
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>>385948515
Why is this old game that looks even older $40?
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True best girl (female) coming through.
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>>385949552
oh boy, thanks
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>>385949617
>not buying the game from 3rd world country's steam
Anon wasn't really lying
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>>385949552
You guys will need these dummy files as well >>184694436
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>>385949663
I always felt like I was the only one who liked her

She's good as the arc's mandatory Taito user, shame she isn't around all the time though
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anyone know if there is a repack?
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Reminder that Fie is shot and that Sara is best girl.
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>>385949901
My fetish (if you can call it that) are boisterous cheeky fighter girls. She fits to a tee. Being a lesbian is even better since it means she will remain pure from the evil Rean cock. Also love the design, short hair works well with her.
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Reminder to PC friends to play the game on Nightmare, the game is really, really easy.
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>>385950019
>Fie is shot
WHO SHOT FIE? SOMEBODY HELP HER, PLEASE GOD
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>>385949946
Fat boy will probably release one in the upcoming days.
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>>385949901
Towa is so cute
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>>385949228
They just added their launch trailer, but yeah, marketing isn't even close to a strength for XSEED. Marvelous Europe at least has social media people to constantly keep feeds awake, but not the USA branch. Most I can say is Durante did most of this port and that will drive attention.
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>>385950132
She shot herself because she is shit when compared to Sara.
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So
>Osbourne seemingly dies but was alive the whole time and won't disclose how he lived
>Zephyr found a way to revive their boss
>Crow appears in the art for CS3

Does this mean that CS3 will introduce resurrection?

Will Rean and his pupils watch in despair while the original Class VII die one by one before resurrection is introduced?
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>>385950389
>This is how Rean became Mcburn in the original timeline
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>>385950227
yeah
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>>385948803
Now that I think of it, they just inverted Sara's clothing and hair didn't they?
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Torrent when?
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Jap voices:
https://mega.nz/#!WkUyhDbb!B8dXNO2aBwNHibQ7tjTCyQLrX-bbBUV2jkZVUYxJ0Q4
Dummy for added english voices:
https://mega.nz/#!AoVmhDoL!h7fYCD14LQD14Ema9zWVvqHZegYJX2PF9EYWbn3x-DM
Trying it right now
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Should I spend the $36 and get the game or wait until it goes on sale? If it helps, I never played any other Trails in the Sky game before.
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So every time a movie is supposed to be played the game crashes. Like if I disable the intro videos from the launcher it starts up fine but then crashes anyway after the two cannons fire. I remember there was a similar issue with the TiTs games but I don't remember how to fix it.
Anyone having the same issue? I can play the videos just fine from the movie folder.
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>>385950982
And it works.
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>>385950120
What does difficutly affect? Does it affect XP or drop rates?
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>>385951196
Get Trails in the Sky instead. If you can't make it through that game you sure as hell aren't going to make it through Cold Steel.
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>>385951354
Just makes it harder.
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>>385950982
what do with these put them in the language folder?
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>>385951404
So no point in playing anything other than normal.
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>>385951391
>>385951196
If you have to try FC first, use Cheat Engine speedhack to get past battle animations since that slows a lot of playthroughs to a halt.

>>385951432
Put them and the dummy files in data/voice/wav
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>>385951432
Put both in gamedirectory/data/voice/wav
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>>385951537
cool does this game have subs?
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>>385951508
It's fun to overcome challenges for the sake of it. The game won't give you a bonus or anything, like Kingdom hearts series critical mode giving you something extra to make up for it.
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>>385949901
>Loewe comes back
>Game ends with with a final reveal of Enforcers II, XIII, XV, and XIX working together in active service to Ouroboros
>no explanation is provided for this sudden character development 180
please buy trails of idols in calvard, this will be alluded to in bonding events within the fourth game

>>385951196
Go play FC, it's cheaper, shorter, chronologically earlier, and will probably help you appreciate the game more if you can sit through it.
FC's a really slow game, especially early on, but honestly if you can't bring yourself to get through it you probably won't make it through Cold Steel anyway.
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>>385951636
All voiced lines outside battles have English/Japanese text.
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>>385951196
To compare:
Trails in the sky went on sale for 50% off 4 months after release.
Trails in the Sky SC only went on sale (-33%) five months after release.
Trails in the Sky the 3rd hasn't been in a good sale yet.
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>>385951703
Oh fuck I meant to quote >>385950389 with the first half, my bad. I hope to god nobody actually gets fake-spoiled by that bullshit.
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Is it just me, or do battle animations move faster than they should in 60 fps?
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Literally GOAT for me thus far. Top comf school theme.
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so is this a sequel or is it kinda standalone in an established universe?
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>>385951581
I don't get it. I did this and it doesnt work. Even restarted Steam.
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>>385952945
Trails series all take place in the same world and have connected stories, but each trilogy is its own thing. In other words you can play this first, but you definitely see things like cameos and definitions all over the games from one another.
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>>385951286
nvm, it seems to work now.
In case someone has the same problem, seems like Xvid codec was fucking it up. Uninstalled it and it works fine.
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>>385953126
You did extract them first, didn't you?
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>>385952945
Bit of both, its a sequel in the game world and there's are references to other stuff that's going on, that being said the first cold steel game is mostly self contained, There are still a bunch of references and thing you would enjoy more if you played the earlier games however. In the 2nd one there's more overlap with the epilogue having you control previous MC's and in the third a bunch of characters from all over are coming back.
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>>385951391
Bullshit, Cold Steel is much more approachable
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>>385953423
Do I need to overwrite english voice files with them?
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>>385954231
yes
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>>385954467
Well, I'm just dumb as brick then. Thanks anon.
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>>385952391
I think it's just that the pc version does away with the loading the ps3 does during combat combined with the smoother animation.
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Have you heard?
The reason XSEED couldn't license Japanese voices for the Trails games is because of their insistence on making DRM-free versions available.

Source: my ass.
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>>385956023
I think they just didn't want to waste money for what moders can do in a day.
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>>385956119
God bless modders. Now waiting for "force party member" mod to always have my favorites in the party without waiting until their chapters.
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>>385948515
Done my part
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>>385949473
I agree with you anon, all the girls sound terrible in the english dub the guys were more decent, most of them at least.
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>>385949552
Why this never happened to God Eater?
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>>385956023

Honestly just getting to play the games is what people should be happy about, in some cases we are having to literally beg to get these games translated and it's amazing that we've finally got a number of them out in english. It's a bit depressing to see how much backlash in the form of childish temper tantrums gets thrown back at them because they can't officially add in japanese VA, we finally get the games in english form, playable to the rest of the planet, and they can't be happy.

If someone is that adamant about absolutely needing japanese voices to enjoy a game then just play the japanese version of it.
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>>385957864
MH clone genre is boring to play, I'm surprised how popular those games are.
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>>385957864
Because it's a shit not-monster hunter series no one cares
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>385958183
My dick cares.
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Reminder that petting your sister(NBR) is a-okay!
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>>385958326
>tfw Alisa is always the worst girl no matter the game
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>>385957695
>buying from GOG

Enjoy your broken game.
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>>385952945

Sorta. Like you'll never get that the opening scene of Sen 1 happens in the timeline where Lloyd and co. are killed if you haven't played the previous games, explaining the differences when you get there. Or what they're talking about when they talk about the bracer guilds being under attack three years ago. World building details like that the cross over the whole series.
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>>385958537
What do you mean? It's the same game across all platforms.
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>>385958475
Nah
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>>385948515
Thanks for the reminder. I just bought it since it's the only jrpg I've been wanting to play for a while.
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>>385958326
Yuu go to bed.
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>>385959113
GOG patches are always late, and it's especially bad for Falcom games.
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>>385959113
He's referring to how GOG is always behind Steam (some hours to a few days) in receiving updates and bugfixes. CS seems mostly stable at launch compared to TITS FC and SC, so it's not a big deal for me, but some people have reported some blurring due to a depth of field bug.
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>>385958537
I'd rather support GOG over steam thanks.
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Is the port good or just another half-baked one?
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>>385949552
I came to this thread for this
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>>385959849
Really good
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>>385959849
Port is one of the best JRPG PC ports, actually. Runs fantastic right out of release with a bunch of new features not found in the consoles, such as UHD support, a turbo mode, additional English dub lines (or you can mod in the Jap voices).
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>>385959849
Port in action
https://streamable.com/0grn0

Durante is a wizard
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>>385960027
>>385960073
>>385960318
Cool, might pick it up for the second time
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>>385960451
I was on the fence but the sheer quality of Durante's effort plus the undub was enough to sway me.
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>>385960073
>a turbo mode

This was in the originals you stupid shill.
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So, besides the combat seemingly being completely braindead easy, is the rest of the game good enough to make up for it?
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>>385960676
>stupid shill
Hey.

Cool it.
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>>385951675
>It's fun to overcome challenges for the sake of it.
Nah, go do that in reality where you actually gain something like get a gold medal at the Olympics or become a celebrity or multi-billionaire. Games are for comfy.
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>>385960676
No it's not.
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>>385960676
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68gWcW2it2M&feature=youtu.be
Don't fucking tell me this was in the original.
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>>385960834
>replying to the shitposter

hello newfag
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>>385960934
I just want to see how he'll justify his anger now that there's already an undub patch.
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I usually buy from steam but I bought it from GOG cause I was so pissed steam wouldn't refund one of my games yesterday. I've never asked for a refund before. Well whatever, I hope it works well. If I like GOG, I'll buy from them more. I am finishing Trails in the Sky Third actually now. Just did the abyss and I think I need to do door 14, then I'll go to the final part.
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Games also up on igg.
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>>385948803
>Glasses chick, also known as best girl, losses her glasses
And I've dropped the series now.
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>>385960745
Trails was never about combat. As long as you aren't completely brain dead, you should never have any difficulty past the early game.
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>>385949901
>lesbian is a raging slut for other girls trope

Shame she didn't die.
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>>385961227
I think you're the one who needs glasses, bro.
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>>385961180
>I think I need to do door 14, then I'll go to the final part.
Enjoy the ride, anon. 3rd is my favourite of the Sky trilogy and definitely has the best ending.
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>>385961080
Not him but I spent all of the previous thread bitching about dub only.
Now that the undub is here I couldn't be happier and the port is great.
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>>385961227
You must be blind anon.
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>>385961180
Have a pleasant ride.
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>>385960929
It was.
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>>385948515
I was playing Cold Steel 2 on henkaku Vita but now I'll wait for it to release on steam for me to buy it.

How is the port of the first?
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>>385961591
take your bullshit and go
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>>385961817
Read the thread.
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>>385961373
this fucking hat ruined her for me, fuck this game, I hope you can take it off.
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>>385961817

Jesus fuck that question is already answered ten fucking times in the thread already.
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>>385961898
>>385961080
Hey look he found something.
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>>385961898
Fuck you I love her hat.
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>>385961898
fuck you hats are great
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>>385961852
You're retarded if you think they didn't include an option to speedup or outright skip animations/cutscenes in the original.

This isn't even a fucking argument. Anyone with the game can go check it themselves.
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>>385962062
That particular hat is bad, fuck you.
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>>385961898
>Not liking her hat
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>>385962207
>animation skip = turbo mode

Yeah just go speed up your walking around in Nord on the original, you dumb fuck.
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>>385962317
You can. It's called dashing.
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>>385962483
Alright you got a laugh with that one, that was a pretty funny punchline my dude.
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>>385962639
Yeah, a lot better than the joke of advertising features that were already present in the console version like some big port advantage.
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>$50
I was thinking about grabbing it but it seems too much right now.
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>>385951675
Nah. I hate grinding in game and just want to read the stories
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>>385962836
Shit the console version had 1080p 60fps and Jap audio?
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>/v/ shits on a game
>Play it and it's actually fun
Never change.
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>>385950982
Wonder if these include the new 5000 lines of voice dialog.
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>>385963216
That's what the dummy voices are for, dummy.
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>>385949505
its the third millennia retard
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>>385963117
Nah those are fine, if ultimately unimportant, things to brag about.
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>>385963216
What the hell do you think the dummy voices are for?
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>>385963339
For dummies.
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>>385963334
Nigga everything is ultimately unimportant.
What a redundant statement.
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>>385962887
But it's $36 on Steam. Why do you guys have to resort to lying about the price of a game when you have nothing else to bait people with?
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>>385963425
>DUDE LIKE NIHILISM IS SO HECKING EPIC NOTHING IN LIFE MATTERS HAHA
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>>385963538
>it's $50
>there already was turbo
>there's no undub patch
>they made combat easier on PC

taking bets on what will be next
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>>385963702
Stupid thing to say, isn't it?
To think that different things are important to different people...
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>>385963197
Everyone loved it until the pc port was anounced.
Then you know who got butthurt beyond belief and shitposted for months.
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>>385963821

I'm waiting for some censorship shitposting.
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>>385963538
Leaf tax.
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>>385963846
>Then you know who got butthurt beyond belief and shitposted for months.
The people who still thought the game was shit?
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>battle harem and Mc with katana
Falcom is dead to me
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>>385963821
They'll bitch that you need to manually copy a save file for importing to the sequel or something else equally pedantic.
Even though it won't be true.
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>>385964140
No games
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>>385964320
Xbots?
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>>385963821
Undub was not shitposting, some people actually don't like American VA.
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>>385964176

Crossbell ark was harem, Erebonia is LN. You don't even know the clichés you're pissing and moaning about.
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>>385961491
>>385961539
thanks!
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Shit's BSoDsing on me. Guess I'm not playing for a while.
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>>385964419
There's already an Undub patch, scroll up.
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>tfw our comfy threads will soon be overrun by Cold Steel vermin
It was nice while it lasted.
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>>385948803
I WANNA BE WHITE, WHITE NOW
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>>385948515
>Pee Sea
>>/reddit/
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>>385964419

He was talking about shitposting over no undub patch when we already have one.
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>>385964558
Our threads haven't been comfy since before EOPs were able to play any of the series at all
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>>385964558
Once they get past the honeymoon phase and stop having fake fun they'll realize it's shit.
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>Good port
>Undub
>Game can already be pirated

Why so much complaining?
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>>385964965
A /v/ without complaining is not /v/
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>>385964965
It's a PC port, we can't let pcfags have fun. Every game ported to pc must be shitposted to death.
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>>385964965
new releases are the best time to shitpost for (you)s, I guess.
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>>385964965
We don't like video games here.
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>>385963846
>everyone loved it before it was announced for localization
>everyone loved it before the PC port was announced
I swear you faggots post the same shit about every goddamn japanese game ever. The same. Fucking. Shit. No, anon, that's wrong. There always were those who liked the game and those who didn't.
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>>385965534
In the last thread was the exact opposite, bunch of fags saying everyone hated the game and only pcfags would enjoy it.
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>>385965734
People called the game a shitty persona rip-off waaaaay before the pc port was announced
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>>385965842
So, should we just accept our differences and let us enjoy different things?
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>>385966131
If you enjoy shit expect to be called out as a shiteater.
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>>385966301
Well, fuck you too.
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>>385966131
Ye
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>>385965149
Mcburn is such a bad character, did they really have to introduce a character with a power similar to Rean as some massive lazy edgelord?
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>>385967089
He's not any worse than Loewe.
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>>385967089
But Mcburn is Rean
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>>385967203
Loewe ain't some lazy motherfucker who appears in the second game without warning and is actually related to Joshua's past and character. Still edgy mind you, but presented much better. That and he doesn't have superpowers coming out of his ass.
>>385967594
Source?
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>>385967203
>Implying
Listen up animeshitter, there is one HUGE difference between the two...

Loewe is from TitS....

McAnimeEdgeFuckFace is from CS(shit).

That is why Loewe is 10000000000000000000000000000x times better than McAnimeEdgeFuckFace. No questions. Coversation over.

I HATE ANIME!!!!!!!!!
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>>385967620
Original timeline Rean (where the railway guns weren't prevented) & sept-terrion of time shenanigans
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>>385964549
Why is Sharon the best Kiseki girl?
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>>385961359
I thought it was cute at first.
Then I watched anime and this type of girl is in literally every anime ever. Fuckin Japs.
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>>385967620
What the fuck is creating fully functional clones of yourself if not a superpower?
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>>385967089
I thought and still think McBurn's entire character was purposely a joke satirizing over-the-top characters in JRPGs, since his appearance is ridiculous and his abilities don't make any fucking sense in a game that's otherwise very rooted and grounded.
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why do people shit on mcburn and compare him to loewe as if they think mcburn was meant to be loewe's cold steel counterpart or some shit? he doesn't even play a similar role in the story, where the fuck does the comparisons come from?
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>>385968335
>in a game that's otherwise very rooted and grounded.

Great joke.
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>>385968856
>Great joke
It's the absolute truth, though. Everything else in the game is either thoroughly or reasonably explained in the game's lore, setting and story except for McBurn who comes off as a giant intentional joke.
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>>385967089
But he is future Crow.
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>>385969035
>thoroughly or reasonably explained in the game's lore, setting and story

That doesn't make it grounded. And no, Osborne coming back to life is never explained, and there are several things that are vague.
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>>385968274
>fully functional
>half damage
>half HP
>no S-crafts
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>>385967620
>Source?
It's a meme about McBurn being Rean from the future because he was voiced by Jun Suwabe.
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>>385967203
You should try playing the Sky games
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>>385967737
Cringed, you're still in these threads?
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>>385969181
Osborne coming back to life is still aknowledged, so it's likely it'll be addressed in CS3
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>>385969035
You mean aside from Rean, Millium, Towa, etc.? Yeah I guess it's grounded if you ignore half the cast.
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>>385969181
>That doesn't make it grounded
It's grounded in the lore, setting and story that the games have, though.

There's multiple things that happen in Trails games that allude to ressurection, though. Osbourne coming back to life is a mystery, but Falcom made it clear that it's not completely out of place with Zephyr finding a way to bring back their boss, for example.
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>>385968274
I said superpowers out the ass anon, Mcburn has Rean's power on top of being able to materialize a sword that can exceed the power of Sept-Terrions, while having rivaling Arianrhod in raw power and Loewe in swordplay. Oh, but he can't really "explain" the power as a fuck you to the players who're curious about the demon powers. They aren't really comparable, as Loewe is a swordmaster with a sword that is on the same level as Mcburn's, while creating half hp clones. Loewe is as strong as Cassius while Mcburn is implied to be stronger than fucking Viscount Arseid.
>>385968335
I seriously doubt that. They don't really fuck around with the Ouroboros members.
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>>385969440
The same thing applies to McBurn.
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>>385963318
>>385949505
Millennium dipshits
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>>385969181
Osborne is pretty obviously a vampire at this point.
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>>385969597
Loewe had the same exact kind of sword you dumbass.

Are you people really so fucking stupid to think that he's never going to be explained when Renne's bullshit took multiple games to be explained?
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>>385969846
Maybe if this were old Falcom, producing quality games we would expect that, but as of right now, with Nu-Falcom producing awful otaku pandering shit with shit writing I think we are justified in being a little hesitant!
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>>385948515
Congratulations, it only took you four years to get this game. PC is truly on the cutting edge of getting ports of games from long-discontinued consoles.
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>>385968274
Creating weak clones is an eastern martial art and something you would expect someone dedicated to mastering combat to have learned at some point.

Being a fucking demon from beyond the pale is not a martial art.
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>>385969481
>Rean
Nothing he does comes off as ridiculous or out of place, even if it's extreme. Even though his powers are vague, they aren't ridiculous or lore-bending like McBurn's.
>Millium
Manufactured at the Black Workshop. They made this pretty clear.
>Towa
Just a Mary Sue, she doesn't really have anything going on beyond working hard.
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>>385970042
>nu-falcom producing awful otaku pandering shit
You do realize Falcom's always had the reputation of producing very anime-esque games and otakubait for decades, right? Even Trails in the Sky is blatantly made for anime fans.
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>>385970121
>Nothing he does comes off as ridiculous or out of place
>his powers aren't ridiculous
>protected his sister from a bear
>this gives mega rage powers
>and also he has low self esteem because his sister must view him as a monster because of it???
>and also his super sayian mode can be transferred to the mech????
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>>385970121
Rean is a fucking harem light novel protagonist. nonsensical self-loathing, unrealistic leadership ability in spite of the self-loathing that would realistically cripple his ability to lead, has a harem comprised of everyone in his game with a vagina and one or two without, has a devil trigger, etc. The self-loathing isn't even justified because his only reason for it is "I killed a yeti once in self-defense".
>Manufactured at the Black Workshop. They made this pretty clear.
Haha yeah having the Black Workshop manufacture Neptunia characters is totally grounded guys.
>Just a Mary Sue
IE, not grounded.
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>>385970248
Moot point.

Anime nowadays is shit, people who watch anime nowadays are dumber then ever- hence Nu-Falcom games are produced at an extremely low standard and are shit.
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>>385970248
>You do realize Falcom's always had the reputation of producing very anime-esque games and otakubait for decades, right?
There's a very blatant difference between Cold Steel and its predecessors both in the audience targeted and in the writing style but when you choose to close your eyes I guess everything's the same anyway
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>>385970428
>harem
Learn what this fucking means. Cold Steel is not a harem. None of the girls except Alisa express liking Rean unless you romance them. There's not a single instance in Cold Steel where multiple girls are lusting after Rean at one time.
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>>385970428
>leadership ability in spite of the self-loathing that would realistically cripple his ability to lead
Not to mention nothing about his speeches is vaguely inspiring or charismatic or anything that comes close to showing any capability as any form of leader

>>385970626
>
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>>385970626
>every single woman in the game falls for Rean for no reason
OH but I guess it's not a harem because none of them admit to loving him besides the one you pick. Oh wait, EVERY FUCKING HAREM DOES THAT.
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>>385969846
Did you even read my post, I said it was at the same level. They both use weapons that are materialized Divergent Laws, Arianrhod's lance and Weissman's staff are ones too.
http://legendofheroes.wikia.com/wiki/Divergent_Laws

And yeah, I kind of did expect an explanation of the demon powers that they both had, since its something that the main protagonist has and not some side character like Renne. Instead, Falcom decided to tease you and expected you to wait however many games until they finally reveal what the fuck it is but by that point I probably would've stopped caring.
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>>385968856
>>385969481
>>385970096
>>385970371
>>385970428
heh... You... I liek you....

I am >>385967737 >>385970042 by the way.... You and I are the only rational people in this thread.... We must both keep fighting the good fight... Exposing the shit that is NU-falcom...

Letting everybody know how things really are, what they really ought to think and say and feel!!!!!!!!

It is a hard life we live but we must do it.... We must....
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>>385970926
>Falcom decided to tease you and expected you to wait however many games until they finally reveal what the fuck it is but by that point I probably would've stopped caring.

This is their fucking MO.
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>>385970756
Every harem anime/vidya has multiple girls, usually 4 or more lusting after the main character at one time.

Rean doesn't have multiple girls on his dick, he has Alisa, but she backs off in the second game, and whoever you bond with and romance.

>for no reason
The only girl who likes Rean are the ones you've bonded with repeatedly and romanced, though. Whoever you picked loves Rean literally because you took the time to bond with them enough. There is a reason.

A harem would be like having Alisa, Fie, Laura, Emma and Sara all actively trying to get Rean. Instead, none of them except Alisa even express any romantic love for Rean unless you go out of your way to romance them.
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>>385970547
Sen III moving away from crap tropes in the first two games also can't possibly an improvement. Oh look, there's a new Ys game over there which avoids similar problems which Celceta and Seven suffered from. It's almost as if the young PSP/Vita players Falcom targeted several years ago have grown older, more like their old PC audience.

Better yet, maybe Falcom saw how much their old fans hated Sen (II), whether on its own merits or on principle, and they've decided to not chase a new, younger market so aggressively anymore. They're more responsive than they seem; most of their problems stem from being a small developer tackling huge games on platforms they never have much time to learn.

>>385971259
Hard to deny Elise and Alfin aren't lusting for his attention in CS II. At least he takes it in stride during Intermission.
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>>385970431
>Anime nowadays is shit
Anime today is the same as it's been two or three decades ago, though. A sea of throw-away garbage and overly cute shit with a few shining standouts every few years.

Falcom games have always been extremely anime-tropey and filled to the brim with the cliches of its era. Trails in the Sky was just as trope-filled as Cold Steel for 2004. TiTS SC even introduced a gothic loli riding a mech for fuck sake. Joshua even has his own fucking harem (Estelle, Josette, Kloe).
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>>385971259
>Rean doesn't have multiple girls on his dick
You mean aside from every female in the cast? Fucking Altina outright says she's wet for him 5 minutes after they meet.
>The only girl who likes Rean are the ones you've bonded with repeatedly
You can bond with more than half the cast enough to "romance" them. You're also intentionally ignoring Altina, Alfin, Elise, and even non-romancable characters like Claire and Sharon showing romantic feelings for him.
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>>385971654
The difference there is that Joshua mans up and tells Estelle he loves her. Ren is just another modern anime male protagonist who has a ton of girls after his dick and just acts dense and never makes a move. Joshua was in love with Estelle the moment the Sky series began. There was no 'Joshuabowl'.
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>>385971874
Rean tells whatever girl you pick that he loves her too, though.

>just acts dense
Just like Joshua has for the 98% of FC?
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>>385971874
>Kloe confesses
>Joshua says sorry
>"What if in a different parallel universe"
>Nope, sorry
I love Joshua and Estelle.
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>>385971654
>>385972027
You should try playing the Sky games.
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>>385972027
What???? Joshua doesn't act dense. Estelle is actually the one who acts dense and doesn't notice Joshua crushing on her. Joshua ends up putting that to rest at the end of the first game by outright kissing her. Meanwhile Rean hasn't done shit unless you hooked up with the BLONE TWIN-TAILED TSUNDER (LMFAO HOW DO COLDSTEEL FAGS DEFEND THIS SHIT???).

Please stop trying to defend Rean and actually play the Sky games. Joshua is 10x the character Rean is.
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>>385948515
Do I need to play Trails in the Sky to understand this game? It's just so ugly on a PC. If I could play it on a portable the bar would be set a lot lower but I really don't want to play it on a big screen stuck at a desk.
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>>385972284
>Estelle is actually the one who acts dense

So both MC's share the same problem.
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>>385971654
>TiTS SC even introduced a gothic loli riding a mech for fuck sake
I love this fucking argument
Renne is an actual character with her own story, a fleshed-out backstory, a personality and character with flaws that actually ties into said backstory, and her entire design and aesthetic fits into the theme of her entire character arc. Yet all you secondary fucking faggots who read a wiki don't realize any of this and just shit on it for being le goth loli and just assume it's like CS where the characters are bland 2D archetypes and don't delve anything beyond that.
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>>385972164
I have. SC in particular my second favourite JRPG of all time besides Arc the Lad II.

>>385972284
>Joshua doesn't act dense
Except for all of the times that Estelle continually blabbers on and lets something embarassing about her crush on Joshua slip, and Joshua says "Huh?" or "I wonder... No".
He's completely oblivious to Estelle's feelings for him until the end of FC.

Who's defending Rean, by the way?

>Joshua is 10x the character Rean is
Nobody said or implied otherwise.
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>>385972518
>I have
Really? That's weird because you keep posting shit that never happened in any of the games.
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>>385972403
How many games did it take for Renne to get there? Fucking three.
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>>385972403
>Renne is an actual character with her own story, a fleshed-out backstory, a personality and character with flaws that actually ties into said backstory, and her entire design and aesthetic fits into the theme of her entire character arc.
I know all of this. She's still a gothic loli.

>shit on it for being le goth loli
I'm not shitting on Renne desu.
She's still a gothic loli.
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>>385972379
>Do I need to play Trails in the Sky to understand this game?
Nope, the trilogies are separate stories. You will miss some cameos and references though since they take place in the same world.
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>>385972613
Three games in which she plays a bit part and isn't a main party member in two of them, and joins late in the one where she is.
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>>385972387
No, it's not. Estelle has no boys hitting on her other than Joshua and is actually regarded as rather unattractive and too much of a tomboy to really be an eye-catcher. Stop. Please just stop. I'm just going to assume you're either retarded, a shitposter, or underaged.

>>385972518
That's really not that dense.
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>>385972614
>I'm not shitting on Renne
You're implying she's not different from CS characters, which yes, is shitting on her and saying she's a terrible character.
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What did they mean by this?
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>>385971063
>kinetic one route trash
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>>385972723
>ignoring Olivier
Rude.
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>>385972793
And this?
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>>385972723
"le random homo man" everyone loves hits on her. Have you ever played these games?
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>>385972828
Aaaah got me there.

>>385972905
Oh god this one is actually serious.
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>>385972387
No because Joshua is not dense, he just ignores everyone else intentionally.
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>>385972732
She's a fleshed out cliche archetype, just like cold steel characters are fleshed out cliche archetypes.

Watch more anime and I guarantee to you that Renne is hardly anything special or crazy. In fact, watch more anime and play more JRPGs and you'll realize the prominence of smug gothic loli characters.
She's literally a fleshed out, well developed cliche.

In fact all Trails games operate under taking very simple, prominent, over-done anime ideas and just fleshing it out and writing it very well.
Renne wouldn't seem out of place in Cold Steel because Cold Steel isn't out of place by Trails standards.

I almost assume at this point that anybody who complains about Cold Steel for being a cliche-ridden, trope-driven mess but praise Sky know nothing about JRPGs or anime in general.
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>>385973174
>Cold Steel characters
>Fleshed out

LMFAO. Jusis is the closest you get to Sky's "Cliche anime character but actually interesting".
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Is there a way to import my save from vita to pc? my vita can do henkaku. I've been playing cold steel 1 very slowly over the last few months because I can't focus on the screen for too long playing an rpg at once. Probably like 30 hours in
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>>385973174
I've watched plenty of anime and played plenty of VNs and while the gothloli archetype pops up on occasion, it's never even remotely on the same level as Renne is. Meanwhile I can name a dozen Saber clones on par with Laura or a dozen slutty sleepi lolis like Fie. Stop shitting on good games because you didn't play them, faggot.
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>>385972894
>officer
Same age, she's just a flat goddess.
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>>385973481
>Meanwhile I can name a dozen Saber clones on par with Laura or a dozen slutty sleepi lolis like Fie.

Just like everyone worth their salt can rattle off angry gruff guys like Agate or bubbly child prodigies like Tita.
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>>385973623
more like a lewd goddess, zephyr let her run around in an outfit like this
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>>385973757
>Just like everyone worth their salt can rattle off angry gruff guys like Agate or bubbly child prodigies like Tita.
Except those characters wouldn't be ust like Agate or Tita in most cases, while most generic saber clones are identical to Laura.
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>>385973860
Agate and Tita don't have anything unique about them.

But go on, name a dozen characters that are "just like" Laura and Fie.
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>>385974023
Agate's going to prison by the hands of Erica Russell.
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>>385974137
t. Erica
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>>385948803
woah.... so this is the power of japnese games......

woah.......
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>>385973174
>She's a fleshed out cliche archetype, just like cold steel characters are fleshed out cliche archetype
Wrong. If you think Renne is only as fleshed-out as Cold Steel characters, then you either didn't' play CS1 and 2, or you didn't play the games Renne was in. One or the other.
>Watch more anime and I guarantee to you that Renne is hardly anything special or crazy. In fact, watch more anime and play more JRPGs and you'll realize the prominence of smug gothic loli characters.
You're fucking retarded. Go ahead; name one single character as remotely developed as Renne in which the goth loli archetype is actually integral to the theme of their arc. Oh wait, you fucking can't because not only isn't there a single one, you also didn't fucking play the games before CS.
>In fact all Trails games operate under taking very simple, prominent, over-done anime ideas and just fleshing it out and writing it very well.
Aside from Cold Steel, which just takes simple, prominent, over-done anime ideas and plays them out very lazily.
>I almost assume at this point that anybody who complains about Cold Steel for being a cliche-ridden, trope-driven mess but praise Sky know nothing about JRPGs or anime in general.
Or perhaps they don't like the fact that Cold Steel is horribly fucking written and does nothing interesting with any of their characters because they know all they have to do is give them a slut outfit like Fie and everyone will flip their shit over "muh amazing loli waifu XD"
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>>385974137
Erika can't reach them in Erebonia
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>>385973481
>Meanwhile I can name a dozen Saber clones on par with Laura or a dozen slutty sleepi lolis like Fie
To be fair there's plenty of genki girls like Estelle, engineer lolis like Tita, overgrown 13 year olds like Agate, and collected martial artist Easterners like Zin. Let's not forget Scherazard, who literally fits the exotic foreigner that plagued the 90s and early 00s to a fucking T. Olivier and Kevin were literally the only playable characters that broke away from the cliches. Kevin's one of my favourite protagonists of all time.

>top shitting on good games
Who's shitting on Sky? I'm not. Part of Trails' strength is taking cliches and archetypes and fleshing them out and making them interesting.
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>>385975060
Liking both Sky and CS is literally the same thing as shitting on Sky
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>>385975568
They're literally the same thing.
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>>385975921
Not him but, CS doesn't do anything interesting with any of its characters and none of them are fleshed-out or well-written.
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>>385975921
No! Sky is amazing and changed my life. It was made prior to the year 2000 and inspired many anime of the era, so you know it's good.
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>>385948515
this game worth 40 bucks?
not familiar with the franchise but it seems interesting
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>>385975993
More text in Cold Steel's script is used on its characters than text in Sky's script is used on its characters, though.
Save for the adults and Rean, Cold Steel's characters (Class 7, mostly) just don't do anything overly bombastic or have crazy revelations like Sky's do.

They have much more mundane backstories, but they still have more backstory even if it's not nearly as hectic as having your village attacked and sister killed, or being the princess all along.
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>>385949552
The japanese includes the additional voiced lines too?
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Jusis, Fie, Elliot (even if he's dull), Machias and Alisa get a good amount of backstory and interaction (Crow's strong suit) with other NPCs at Thors for their development in the first game. It's not great stuff, and I prefer Sky just for having more highs, but I really enjoy Class VII and what subtleties they have. Way too many great side characters are in CS for me to just write it off because I played the Sky trilogy.

>>385976602
Adding just the Japanese voiced lines won't replace the new lines (which are all in English). You have to overwrite the new line files with blanks for them to not play.
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>>385976237
You should start with the Trials in the Sky trilogy then.
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>>385977037
But then you're giving up on 5000 voiced lines. If I don't use the dummy files, they'll just speak english for those parts? Not break the game?
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>>385977241
Yeah, it'll just play the new English lines and the Japanese VA. No conflict.
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>>385977037
I honestly feel that Cold Steel characters have way more backstory and traits than Sky characters, but a lot of their backstories and traits are much more mundane and less attention-grabbing desu.

Take Elliot compared to Agate for example. Elliot's one of the most boring playable characters in the series while Agate is one of the most interesting playable characters. I could tell you more about Elliot's past, traits and character than Agate, even though Agate is undoubtedly a much better character all around while being a ton of times more involved.
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>>385977346
So basically quality versus quantity.
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>>385977346
Agate's not quite that interesting, but his childhood past makes a strong case against war because it amplifies even the simplest mistakes into disaster. That plays really well into the Liberl arc's political theme (diplomacy vs. statism), and I feel the Cold Steel cast does a good job of developing in ways that suit overall themes like this even if they're not as compelling as they could be.
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>>385977346
>>385977642
Agate also has an interesting dynamic with Tifa, while a lot of CS characters feel like they mostly revolve around Rean with the exceptions of Laura/Fie and Machias/Jusis being really dumb dynamics
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So it's normal not to have voice sometimes right?

Like a cutscene and only MC doesn't have a voice.
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>>385977983
Jusis and Millium had a fun dynamic. Emma and Fie used to hang out in the early game but they stopped for whatever reason.

>>385978056
>So it's normal not to have voice sometimes right?
Yes.
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>>385977983
>Tifa

>>385978056
Yes.
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>>385978056
Yes
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>>385978056
>>385978056
I thought they said they fixed that shit with 5000 new lines?
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>>385978151
>Jusis and Millium had a fun dynamic
True, but you have to do her bond events to get anything out of Millium as a character
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>>385978209
he's probably one of those undub fags
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>>385978273
Was Millium the only character in the game who had important, plot-relevant information tied to romancing her?
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>>385977346
It's more like their characters make no sense with their backstory and are completely contradictory in most of their cases. Elliot is just pic related. Fie is supposedly a former mercenary but she acts so far removed from one because of a "oh she was sheltered XD" asspull because they don't want to take any risks in have a character not act like generic waifubait in CS.
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>>385948803
>Rean will never marry the Imperial Princess and become Emperor Rean Osbourne Dreichels Schwarzer Arnor the First
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>>385948515
>edit: gameover

>omnisyncd [developer] Just now
We cannot condone any Japanese Audio mods on our community hub. Please take down this guide, as well as the discussion thread referring to it. Unfortunately, I will be forced to delete them otherwise. I just wanted to let you know.

>sorry needed to take it down

Why the fuck are publishers such shitheads again?
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is it undubbed yet

>"we can't get original language audio because Falcom."
>Falcom lets Nisa use original language dual audio
>"hey guys we just added over 8000 new lines of dub dialogue to akiba sbeat starring JOHNNY FUCKING BOSCH!"

sorry i don't buy the excuse anymore xseed
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>>385978432
>Fie is supposedly a former mercenary but she acts so far removed from one
Is this bait? Whenever she wasn't sleepy she was letting out really awkward borderline autistic lines about blowing things up, or how lohengrin castle would make for a great vantage point for a sniper and various shit.

How are mercenaries even supposed to act to begin with? There's so many mercenaries in fiction and tons of them act completely different from each other because people are still individuals.
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>>385978647
>XSEED somehow thinks Beat will be a major success because of how much people loved Trip and spends a shit ton of a ludicrously expensive localisation
>Beat proceeds to sell 10% of what Trip did in Japan

I wonder what sales are in the rest of the world for Beat.
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>>385978647
>"we can't get original language audio because Falcom."
Yeah I remember when XSEED said that.
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>>385978209
Still doesn't cover the whole script.

>>385978647
Core undub: https://mega.nz/#!WkUyhDbb!B8dXNO2aBwNHibQ7tjTCyQLrX-bbBUV2jkZVUYxJ0Q4
Dummy files (replace new English lines with these): https://mega.nz/#!AoVmhDoL!h7fYCD14LQD14Ema9zWVvqHZegYJX2PF9EYWbn3x-DM

>>385978859
Way less than Akiba's Trip on Steam. It's their dumbest localization choice in a long time and I hope they never get over it if that forces them to make smarter business decisions.

>>385979037
I remember when they said Falcom gave them no barriers, just VA agents/production agencies. Regardless, I think XSEED's just too cheap to constantly get dual-audio, and they can sell their games better if they really want the cash to license JP VA more often.
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>>385949550
>pocket pussy
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>>385977983
Laura's "unable to empathise with anyone" was so stupid I outright despised her character at first.

>hurr Fie, who cares that your parents are dead and you were brought up by mercenaries, why don't you have any honor like me
>durr Rean, who cares about your family, you should be focusing on your swordsmanship like me
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>>385978432
> far removed from one
This is a Mercenary/Jaeger in Sky
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The last bonding event in CS2 was so disappointing. I wanted to carry Fie back to my room, throw her onto the bed and fuck the living shit out of that small frame.
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>>385980413
And have her child right?
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>>385979207
It is probably the individual VAs. iirc, Sen was right off the heels of Kouki's role as Bannana in Unicorn in addition to being around IS Season 1, iirc.
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>>385980413
I know bed frames are cute, but go easy on it. Give Fie some love too.
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is there a torrent yet? I don't want to pay for no dual audio even if there is a patch already.
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>>385978820
Gee I dunno, if only we'd had a former mercenary in the series who had more character than being a generic archetype that occasionally talks about their expertise in gorilla warfare. Too bad no character like that exists.
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>>385981681
This isn't a pissing match about who's the better character.
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>>385968178
Because she's the type of maid that would blow you after cooking you a quality meal and can assassinate anyone you don't like.
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