Gamedev thread

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Slowly remembering that I hate art and that I should just stick to programming.
I'll probably redo this several times more. For art style I think I'll make it a bit more flat and take out some of the detail work I did in the face as I think I like the simple style I used to colour the hair more.
I also need to beat her up a bit and give her some neon yellow kind of coat or jacket that SCREAMS space captain. Any ideas?

>>385944923
Bump.

>>385946194
>Any ideas?
Give up and hire an artist.

>>385946273
Noone is looking for a programmer. I've been told that I should just do the best I can until I'm happy with it. At least I'll always have my code to comfort me.

>bought set of blueprints for UE4 for like 30 dollars before christmas
>haven't touched UE4 since

kill me

>>385946484
>Noone is looking for a programmer
There are always looking for work because they are dirtbag loafers who can't do anything worthwhile with their lives so they try to make their childhood skill in doodling into a career. Artists don't look for programmers, programmers look for artists. And be sure to cheat them down to the lowest possible price. They deserve it.

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Move away punks, real games coming though

>>385946850
Fucking Gankers.

Me too, except it's summer. I need to watch the documentation, but it's sweet to be able to have so much of the work already done, even if it's from a third party.

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>>385946794
Show me on the doll where the artist touched you

>>385946794
>paying an artist
You almost make them out to be real people. Next thing you'll be telling me that Ideaguys deserve their names in the credits.
I'll probably use my shoddy doodles to keep myself inspired for now and hopefully I'll bump into someone on the same page as me that I can commission a shit ton of stuff off.

>>385947112
You laugh at me now, you'll learn soon enough.

>>385947137
I consider it a marketing expense. You might have a good game with excellent gameplay but if you want that pleb money - the big bucks you gotta tickle their adhd with bright colors and pretty pictures.

>>385946743
>bought blueprints
...
you're beyond salvation

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I'm starting my first game now, a side scrolling shoot em up like Contra or Heavy Weapon. This is the first design I came up with for the guy you play as, he's like a reverse gorilla robot and his movements/motions are in a crabwalking position. I'm pretty happy with the design but I'd like some insight from /v/irgins.

I'm a total newshitter at programming. I'm using Unity and it's my first go at programming anything. I can make some textured models though.

Should I learn something different first?

Should I even bother making models for mini projects?

>>385946743
kys with your shitty meme

>>385947778
Just learn to code until you have a good understanding of scripts. Artists have it easy mode in solo game development since anyone can learn to code alright in weeks, but it takes years to be just decent at art. And despite what people say, art is the most important part of games Yeah there are some exceptions, get over it. So focus on learning coding, with a real programming language, like C# in unity and you'll do alright.

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>>385947556
I will BUY this gorilla off you
You're going to be in big business kid, you're really going places.

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started working on weapon animations today. got about halfway into the boomerang animations before i realized that i have no idea how to properly implement the actual throw and fetch into unity. i'm assuming i'll have to use raycasting and a rigidbody on my boomerang. makes me wonder if i should even bother animating it flying away from the player.

>>385948357

Alright, thanks. I'll just try to stick with something simple cos I'm starting to realise how mindbendingly difficult something like nu-XCOM is. I might try and make something around a single mechanic like a puzzle game or a ripoff of Viscera.

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>>385944923
no

>>385946794
>t.angry worthless code monkey
Learned your skill in less then 2 months thank god i'm an artist and not something worthless like a programmer.

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Working on battle system
Holy shit, this is the smoothest wemb I ever made

>>385948447
Sold! For one good boy point! Heheheheheh...pleasure doing business with you...

>>385948785
remove this bloom please,it looks like those shitty ps2 games that only effect the game had was bloom and low quality blur

>>385949063
I like it this way
Bloom can be turned off in the options menu though

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>>385948527

Dude you should brush up your animation skills a lot more.

>>385949229
you gotta work on those animations anon,and make the numbers fit the hud box size if you don't mind

>>385946743
>buying blueprints

The entire point of blueprints is that they're for people that don't know how to code.

>>385949731
it was for a game jam, made the whole game in a day :-D Probably won't be working on it.

>>385949714
again, i'm only halfway done with them, but thanks.

>>385948527
That neck width to head size ratio is making me uncomfortable. Looks like his neck could snap at any time.

>>385944923
ay, i am just starting out although would be cool if i get into a small 2d project in unity.

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>>385949832
> :-D
then why show,fuck you i'm mad

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>switching from GameMaker to UE4

>>385948765
Have fun living under the bridge in a year with the rest of your art school buddies :)

How much of a faggot am I for being interested in PlayMaker? I want to make a simple game but make up for it with decent art and as much attention to detail and interactivity as possible.

>>385950050
thanks, that's what i'm going for.

>>385950085
:DDD I love you

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>>385944923
I am working on a fapbait game much like shantae, but I can't draw for shit.

I think I'll hire models and rotoscope the hell out of them.

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Realized it was impossible to create enough enemy models by myself so I reworked the whole character system. Now humans will all come from a single base mesh sharing a skeleton, this way I can get different looking humans without having to model them from scratch.
This also allows for potential character customization later on if I want to include it.
Here's an example of the revamped model.

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>>385950258

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>>385950890
lets be friends dude

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>>385950418
And here's some butt jiggling I've been experimenting on. One of the reasons I wanted the new model was because the old butt looked alright static but it didn't deform all that well when you added in jiggling dynamics, as you can see on this webm. Still I'm pretty happy with the actual jiggling animation on the skeleton.

>>385951075
how do you do that, do you add bones to ass cheeks?

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>>385950979
ok...

>>385951956
thanks doc

>>385947556

I really, REALLY like that.

>>385951324
Yeah so basically the standard hierarchy is
>pelvis
>>thighs
>>>calves
So what I do is add a helper bone parented to the pelvis but independent of the thighs, and set it to be driven by physics. The hierarchy ends up looking like
>pelvis
>>butt helper
>>thighs
>>>calves
Since it's driven by the engine you don't have to keyframe any animation and you can make it jigglier, limit how much it can rotate, etc. It's pretty neat and not even that hard to do.

Is Gamemaker Pro worth the buy? I think it's on Humble Bundle right now for $1, but I don't know much about it.

>>385953469
it's one fucking dollar, just buy it.

>>385948785
Not bad man! Looks great, got a soulsborne vibe but in first person.

Tips :

Sword anims should be broken into 4 phases.
>Resting
>Wind up (approx 0.6 seconds)
>Swinging (approx 0.15 seconds)
>Post swing delay (approx 0.3 seconds)

The post swing delay gives it a feeling of weight.
General
>Add a slight lerp on the gun + sword as the camera moves. They look strange being glued to the screen like that.
>If you're going to animate the camera when the sword swings or the gun shoots, make sure it's super smooth. At the moment it is harsh and disorienting. I would suggest removing the camera animations unless you have a very gifted animator on board.

UI
>Shrink the damage indicator numbers
>Shrink the crosshair, lower it's opacity
>Get away from the Dark Souls style of the HUD.

>>385953678
Thanks for the feedback!

I will try to make the sword attack animation better, thanks for the tips. And the camera motion when attacking with the sword need works too.

As for the gun recoil - it's not an animation, it's a procedural thing, so I can just tweak parameters. In the webm I shoot while moving, and this gives an additional recoil, if you shoot steady - the recoil will be minimal.
Camera motion while attacking with the sword can be toggled off in the options (with other camera animations), but I don't know what to do with gun recoil - it's part of the gameplay, I can't just turn it off. Should I just move the weapon and the crosshear instead of the camera if the additional camera motion is turned off?
I will make a new UI, the current is a big mess of object, all the gameplay UI is on the single Canvas, and I heard recently that every time you change a single UI element - the whole canvas rebuilds, so I will separate UI into different canvases. Also
>>Get away from the Dark Souls style of the HUD.
Never

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Fine

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>>385944923
trying to find something salvageable in my failures and discarded projects

>>385948785
>firearm equivalent of a chain wallet
Get those edgy chains off your gun

The sabre looks rad though

>>385955083
>Get those edgy chains off your gun
Never

>>385948785
vid quality is shit,upload hd pic please

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>>385955421
My CPU and GPU is too slow to record good videos, sorry

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>>385944923
I actually am starting my own firm in gamedev now yeah. Even made a thread on it a week or 2 ago.

Still open for ideas for games!

>Pic unrelated

>>385950409
Just finish your game with placeholder art, and then hire an artist to make the fapbait

>>385955663
>"Shadow Tower Abyss 2"

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>>385955940
I made this funny meme when I decided to ditch arcade light gun-like battle system and create a more traditional FPS action game

>>385955851
make a ww2 game

?try to dev
>lose interest or someone invtes me to a game

>>385954396

No prob!

The gun recoil can stay, I have no issue with it. I found a very short camera shake (wobble the FOV or position over 0.1s) works quite well, but it's not for everybody.

Moving the crosshair is also a cool idea, I think that would work.

I would also pull the gun into the center of the screen a bit more. It looks as if the player is holding their arms out. I don't mean stick the gun right in the middle, just a little further in.

Hah sure, leave the HUD then. What's the game about? Just a soulslike with a twist on the combat? It's hard to tell from the webm, but it looks like it's grid based movement? Grimrock + souls maybe?

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>>385955851
make this pls

please

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Currently blocking out areas and getting assets ready (also gotta clean up lightmaps).

Gothic architecture sure can be a pain in the ass.

>>385956653
No, it's a first person action game, stamina system, dodges, shot parrying, things like that.

I made arms like this because the weapons in the arms are completely switchable and could be usable almost simultaneously (and yeah, I need to make an animation for the handgun when you attack with the saber - so far it looks stiff and unnatural), so I'm creating this two-hand equipment mechanic where you can easily switch a weapon if you need (for example, some enemies use a magic shield and you can pierce it more easily with a special anti-magic rifle, but it deals a lot less damage to non-magic objects, so you have to switch to your other main weapon), thus the arms are in this general pose for all the weapons they could hold.

Souls are a big inspiration, though I want to create something unique (but with souls narrative techniques). The main idea that you have to combine ranged combat with melee combat in order to kill enemies - you can't just shoot everyone from far, like in a classic FPS game.

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>>385948785
This looks bretty stylish. Like an edgier version of Dishonored. What engine are you using?
You may want to reduce the size of the circle around the reticule, it looks more suited to a shotgun than a pistol. You don't have to, it's just my opinion, but for the mauser you may want to change the recoil animation so it's more of an upward motion. It looks like he's shooting and the mauser is staying level, but his whole hand/arm is going backwards and up at the same time. The bottom is what your animation looks like to me, and what I'm suggesting is the top.
Or maybe I'm a huge faggot that doesn't know what he's talking about, otherwise ignore me.

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>be artist that isnt complete shit
>always hope to find coder bro that isnt complete shit to make game with
>don't do pixel art

STOP MAKING INDIE GAMES PIXEL ART REEEE

>>385957368
Or maybe I'm a huge faggot that doesn't know what he's talking about, otherwise ignore me

Actually the Mauser C96 is known for having quite an upward flip compared to other full-size handguns of similar calibre.

t. /k/

>>385949259
I like it too anon, don't worry

>>385957284

Sounds great! Fair enough about the arms. How do you balance the over powered nature of guns with the melee? Seems like a balancing minefield. Good luck though, will be great if it's pulled off.

Add motion blur btw. Really helps with sword swinging and first person dodging. I'm guessing you're using Unity 5.4 + so this should work - https://github.com/keijiro/KinoMotion

Just careful with the souls stuff, everybody and their grandmother is doing it nowadays.

>>385957703
fuck forgot my meme arrow

>>385957603
wait so you wanted pixel art and he said no or??? your post is confusing

>>385955851
hire me and I'll give you the world

>>385946194
Just keep practicing art. Use your stuff as a place holder if you habe to. Once you show people what you can do on your own and that you're serious, it will be easier to convince people to work with you and to believe in the project.

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>>385957368
I'm using Unity.
The reticule actually represents the handgun's eye, it's a living thing and it can "see" enemies, meaning that if you "look" at an unidentified enemy, the reticule changes to a full eye (picrelated) and after some time the enemy will be identified and you will be able to see its hp bar, etc.
As for the animation, in Blender the animation actually looks like at the top of your picture, maybe it's because of webm's quality, dunno

>>385957762
>Sounds great! Fair enough about the arms. How do you balance the over powered nature of guns with the melee? Seems like a balancing minefield. Good luck though, will be great if it's pulled off.
Thanks! It's my game's secret, I hope it will work.
I don't quite like motion blur, for some time I used it when player character dodge, but I removed.
I'm a big fan of souls games and understand why so many people are inspired by the games. Though, a lot of indies do it wrong, the only good indie game that is inspired by souls games I know is Hollow Knight - no gameplay copying, but the atmosphere and the narrative is certainly like in Souls games. I want to do the same.

>>385957909
not too confusing. I don't do pixel art

>>385958051
I can, but I will need some info's first. WHAT do you bring to the company

>>385944923

Why the fuck would I make games when i'm making a fucking killing selling garbage to underage tards who think they can make games?

>>385958761

what are you selling then

>>385958962
garbage

>>385958761
I assume you're selling assets on the unity or ue marketplace? do people really buy that shit?

>>385958761
because of fucks like you all the 10 yo tards think they can make games and flood the market with fidget spinner games

>>385958962
godot
he's not a smart man

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>>385958551
different anon but,
I'll be your in-house artist CADslave
i just dont want to join up with anybody less dedicated to this than i am

>>385958380
i thought you meant he said dont do pixel art and your image was yfw

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>tfw finish a handful of Unity tutorials but still have no idea what I'm doing

>>385959616
IM AN ARTIST NOT A TALK....IST
reee

>>385959810

I'm in the same boat

literally no idea what to do from here

>>385959490
Yeah this sounds perfect. THIS is what you'll want to hear. Not some memorised bullshit line to every question

>>385959810
>>385959940
START. That's what you'll do from there. What do you want to build? What is the first thing you'll need. Follow more targeted tutorials. SpeedTutor is a good start.

>>385944923
>trying to make simplistic game
>co-developer keeps trying to add giant features that neither of us would be able to realistically make good
>wants it to be "cool like battleborn"
>losing all drive to continue
its going about as well as can be expected

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Trying to make the legs easier to animate

>>385954425
the bullets don't contrast very well with the planet, especially the rings, so they're difficult to see.

Try making them blink in different and saturated colors like red and blue, like SNK did with the projectiles in Metal Slug.

>>385960050
>paper mario: qt bugs edition

i'm sold anon
where can i follow ur work???

>>385958335
Looks cool but why Unity? I'm not bashing on unity I'm using it myself but if I had to create a FPS I'd use Unreal

>>385960050
You're doing God's work.

>>385960426
I don't know C++, I don't like visual scripting and UE4 editor runs pretty poor on my i3-2100/GTX550Ti

>>385948765
>>385947112
you tards realize programmers make much much more money than the average artist?

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Starting the early design for an arcade themed stage

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>>385960402
I have a tumblr and twitter, look up for "paperbugdev"
>>385960529
Thanks anon!

>>385960804
Looks like it could be lightning in a bottle.

Do you need any kind of help with your project? I'd like to get in if you do.

>>385960050
>reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

using 4chan makes
anon, in afew years those memes will be reddit tier and later 9gag
your game will be trash

>>385958335
>Thanks! It's my game's secret, I hope it will work.

Gimme a clue at least? I'll take some wild stabs if you won't budge.

>Guns only do useful amounts of damage for head shots, so accuracy is a big deal.

>Swords give you more exp, or steal enemy health

>Guns run out of ammo easy

>Guns are weak as shit

It's gotta be one of those right?

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>>385961074
Currently have a good team so I'm good, thanks
>>385961098
That's just for testing anon

>>385959810
My best advice when learning through tutorials is to immediately attempt to recreate what you just finished without the aid of the tutorial. If you can do it without checking the tutorial, move on. If you can't, revisit the pertinent part and learn again. Trial and error and repetition are the keys to learning

>>385960050

Love it! Agree that the use of "reee" or any meme based stuff is a terrible idea. Imagine Nintendo doing it, that's how bad it would be.

>>385960804
i like this but it is very clearly just Paper Mario

>>385961263
Nope, but weak points are good targets to shoot at, it deals more damage.

The system I'm creating was already done in quite some games, and I'm refining it right now on paper before implementing.
Telling how I'm going to marry ranged and melee combat means that I need to tell almost everything about the battle system (it's pretty convoluted) and I don't want to do it before the demo

>>385960050
>>385960804
This looks incredible. What does the combat look like?

>>385961330

>Trial and error and repetition are the keys to learning

It's not 1960 anymore.

>>385961532
hey, if Nintendo doesn't do a decent Paper Mario game somebody else will have to.

>>385960698
Looks really cool. What's the gameplay?

>>385961318
you better make qt fapbait healslut bug party member

>>385961617
Paper Mario was a decent Paper Mario game though. By definition.

But the shop, the Badges, the Combat
Anon's game is almost exactly Paper Mario

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>>385960230
its a late game stage. the ring is supposed to do that to make it harder

>>385961581
Ok fair enough. Where could I find the demo when you've released it?

>>385961593
What would you suggest then? Trial and error and repetition are tried and true methods of learning even today. It worked in 1960 and it works now

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hey fuckers, instead of looking up shitty tutorials online how about you read a fucking book, there's a humble bundle on a lot of useful books for Unity and UE4 right now

Even though you don't need a book for unity because its simple as fuck, but some of the people that pick unity need to read a basic book on programming so much.

>>385961698
The party is only 3 people

>>385961741
It won't be soon enough to tell when, but I will post it in AGDG threads and in /V/ gamedev threads for sure!

>>385961838

but are they any good

>>385961946
Are you, anon?

>>385962024

no, which is why im asking

As someone who has some minor experience with Java, html and Python, am I hurting myself by using Clickteam Fusion for my first small project or should I attempt to learn something more like Gamemaker or Unity?

>>385961584
>>385961698
>>385961532
>>385961707
The game is of course heavily inspired in paper mario, but there are some key changes like having the party be only bee, beetle and moth through the entire game, each having different movesets and strengths. Also positioning is important since the bug in front gets +1 attack, but gets targetted by enemies more often. You can also pass turns from one to another, like goombella's rally wink, but for all party members
here's videos of some battle stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OW-yKgYkHIY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aNNwRnAh0E

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>>385961838
>tfw get distracted easily
>tfw slow reader
>tfw little patience for reading
I would love to, honestly.

>>385962105
If you want 2D, just go with Game Maker, GML is a lot like JavaScript, the easiest programming language besides BASIC

>>385960804
>>385960050
This looks adorable anon. Don't give up!

>>385961838

Can't speak for the Unity ones, but the Unreal ones are all out of date garbage written by pakis and other clueless fucks and are literally just reprints of free tutorials available online.

Cannot recommend them at all.

>>385962078
Give it a try, and stop thinking you are not any good, sometimes people need some good pointers on programming or structuring a videogame in a commercial engine, and well, that bundle is pretty much complete in terms of begginer to mid level topics, and it cover some advanced topics on both unity and unreal. Reading a good book is times better than looking up some shitty tutorial on the internet that might be already outdated,

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>>385961717
>it's not a bug it's a feature

here's what I suggest, if you truly intended for the ring to make it more difficult for the player to see the pellets in, try making it a gradient so that it
1.Makes the player more compelled to stop advancing rings before they get too close to the planet
2.Makes it feel more balanced to the player
3.Clearly outlines that this is the intended purpose of the ring and not poor game design.

just my 2 cents

>>385962573

Thanks anon, I've just bought it cos of your posts. I'm getting frustrated by the lack of direction I'm feeling from the youtube tuts. As much as I like stuff like Brackeys, I never feel like I'm armed for other projects.

>>385962159
so its paper mario with darkest dungeons combat

>>385963014
And cute bugs

>>385962159
Music when

>>385963076
all im saying is that this game needs some originality because i like the bugs but it's a paper mario clone

>>385963179
I don't think it needs originality. There's plenty of demand for a game that's basically Paper Mario since Nintendo refuses to make more

>>385958335
Texture quality on everything looks nice as fuck, your enemy design also kinda reminds me of Amnesia or SOMA

I'm liking this

>>385963265
doomed to fail ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


> since Nintendo refuses to make more
they made one for the WiiU, why do you think they wont make one for the Switch..?

>>385963179
What the hell originality would you add? They've already shown off a quest system which is completely different from Paper Mario. You have no idea what you're talking about.

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>>385961649
3D platformer in the style of a zelda 64/banjo/SM64 hybrid.

>>385963502
It's like Nintendo released Paper Mario Maker and this is a game made using that.

>>385963482
Don't be dense. This game is clearly styled after Paper Mario 64 and Thousand-Year Door, not any of the newer games. There's a lot of demand for games in that style, and the ones Nintendo are releasing are not that.

I'm not sure why it's doomed to fail. Nintendo can't DMCA an artstyle. If anything, they might want to avoid putting Paper in the final title.

>>385963668
>Don't be dense. This game is clearly styled after Paper Mario 64 and Thousand-Year Door, not any of the newer games
what point are you even making here?
>I didnt copy street fight 4, i copied street fighter 3!!!

it's just an obvious rip-off.
The first thing anybody is going to think is "Oh, it's paper mario.

>>385963927
No shit dude, I'm not denying that. I'm saying that there is demand for more games like Paper Mario 64 and Thousand-Year Door. This demand is not being fulfilled by Nintendo.

Spent all night working on an issue i just bately made a quick dirty fix for.

Theres an issue with unreals 2d character where if you jump and hit corners it bounces you back quite a bit. Me being an idiot, i couldnt find a proper way to deal with the exact problem. So as a workaround i have the character detect if its hitting a wall or a ceiling. If it hits neither set velocity to zero in order to prevent being bounced.

Seems to work so far with the exception of a few bounces that still happen but theyre very minor and not as disruptive. Plus if i want to now i can use the wall and cieling detection for wall climbing and other stuff like that

>>385963927
>The first thing anybody is going to think is "Oh, it's paper mario.
You'd be surprised how much people would jump on it for that exact reason

>>385964116

Is it perhaps related to the shape of the collision boxes of the corners?

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So any brainlet with no programming knowledge can make a game with Gamemaker huh?

>>385964067
>This demand is not being fulfilled by Nintendo.
I'm not sure why you think this, where are you getting your stats? They are continuing to release Paper Mario games

So far Nintendo has cornered the market with the "Paper" series since it was their original IP.
The game falls under the category of Party-Based RPG, which is not in high demand since this is one of the most popular game styles in the world, not "Party-Based RPG with Flat Characters" which isn't really in high demand since Paper Mario games exist and it's a niche and gimmicky feature in general.
From what i've seen, you arent even taking advantage of the fact that the characters are flat, which Paper Mario does by transforming into tubes, or paper airplanes.

Games like DeBlob and Splatoon are good examples of two games charing the same gimmick while being different enough that nobody immediately compares the two. This Paper Bug game brings to mind a comparison more similar to Fallout: 3 and Fallout: New Vegas

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Animated hookshot swinging over the past couple days.

>>385964780
wow what did you use to animate/draw the sprites? that looks really cool!

>>385964204
Yes but you're directly competing with Nintendo in this situation, and from a business perspective that's a suicidal move for an indie developer. You will not get any sales when the next Paper Mario comes out because all of the people who were interested in your game will flock to the new Mario game.

If you want to make a fan game and do it for the love of Paper Mario, that's great and all but dont expect it to be the next big hit while Paper Mario still exists. You want to wait for Paper Mario to DIE before releasing this game because then demand will be higher than ever

I'm pretty good at game design, I think, but when it comes to actually creating what I want I feel kind of lost. I don't plan on being an ideas guy, that doesn't work, that's why I'm learning to make stuff by myself, but it would be great to know where to look for some answers when I'm lost.

>>385964780
Yo, those animations are crisp, Anon.

>>385964780
Looks fucken sick, my dude
scarf effect's a bit weird to me since you can't see it when he's not movin

>>385964750
The new Paper Mario games are not even Party-Based RPGs. The last Paper Mario in that category was released 12 years ago. Plenty of people who were a fan of that are not pleased with the new direction of the series.

>>385964780
that looks incredible

>>385965000
>implying paper mario is not already dead

>>385965104
>>385965174
Whatever man just trying to be sensible. Hit me up with those sales stats when you release.

>>385965000
Not him but your logic is garbage and the tone of your post is super cunty

>>385965264

>Whatever man just trying to be sensible

No you're not, you're just being a jelly faggot.

Shits fucking embarrassing.

>>385965153
>>385965049
Thank ya.

>>385964960
I use Graphics Gale (https://graphicsgale.com/us/) for all my pixel art stuff. It turned freeware just little over a month ago, too.

>>385965090
Yeah, I can see why you'd say that. It's kind of intended to mimic something like how X's scarf in Mega Man X Command Mission is only active when he's walking. It still could use some work, but I'm gonna leave that till later.

>>385965426
>>385965468
?
There's no hate in my posts. I've said multiple times that I like the game.
Don't get butthurt because I'm making sense.

>>385965000
>Yes but you're directly competing with Nintendo in this situation
Competing with what? Nintendo hasn't made a proper Paper Mario game since 2004

>>385964527

That's what I was thinking about as well. From testing stuff and reading other peoples discussion on the issue, its just some weirdness caused by that curved corner part of the capsule component hitting the corners of box shaped collisions. I might see if there's a better way to fix things later but for now id rather move on to what i was suppose to do originally.

>>385965636

>Don't get butthurt because I'm making sense.

But you're not making sense.

Your logic completely falls apart when you apply it to literally any real world examples.

>Hollow Knight will never sell because Castlevania and Metroid exists

>Stardew valley will never sell because Harvest Moon, Rune Factory and Story of Seasons exists

That's how fucking retarded you sound.

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>>385965909
>fucking retarded
can we talk without you being triggered please.

>Games like DeBlob and Splatoon are good examples of two games sharing the same gimmick while being different enough that nobody immediately compares the two. This Paper Bug game brings to mind a comparison more similar to Fallout: 3 and Fallout: New Vegas

I'll never play Hollow Knight and think "This is so similar to Metroid, why don't I just play Metroid"

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>>385965517
>I use Graphics Gale

>>385966159
WHEN

>>385965517
>>385966287
I actually have Graphics Gale on my PC but no idea how to use it.
Did you learn it yourself?
Do you know of any good online tutorials for it?

>>385966191
Everyone thinks that with Stardew Valley, though.

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Asset design stuff for Dr. Leusze's appearance in World 1, including a sci-fi refrigerator "sample cooler".

Currently, getting around to meshing out cows for Brenda Mae's farm, because I've been putting it off for way too long. I'm trying to power through the asset design stuff because it goes so much further toward FEELING like progress than mechanical stuff does.

>>385965909
he does make sense, it was a bit rough but it's kinda true. Hollow knight has enough material to be an original game, so does stardew valley. He's asking where's this original content that makes this game good on it's own too

>>385965771

Either way, you've learned something new, but yeah i've had trouble with the default capsule collision mesh doing weird shit, not a huge fan of it.

cant into maths desu

>>385966514

>3D platformer

muh dick

Anywhere I can see more?

>>385966595

True it did open up some tricks I could use for future mechanics so it wasn't all bad.

People are hoping unreal fixes this issue itself eventually but last I heard the Main dude who works heavily on 2D stuff is occupied with Epic Game's Paragon, so who knows how long till they actually fix it out themselves.

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>>385944923
Just bought the gamemaker bundle because I've had in my head for a long time the idea of a paper mario like game and a pokemon like game, but I see another anon is already making the mario one.

What tutorials do you guys recommend to start?

>>385966392
I just picked up and started using it back in like late 2014 by myself, after messing with pixel art in programs that were unsuitable for it. Only reason I picked Gale over others was because an artist friend who gave me some pixel art tips also happened to use it.

As for the learning process, I had already used Flash years prior, so for me personally it was a matter of learning the workflow and the program's quirks; didn't look up any tutorials for it specifically. The only program specific pixel art tutorials I know target Photoshop or GIMP.

The thing with Gale is that animation features can feel a bit outdated (it harkens back to older software like Animation Shop Pro), and thus working with multiple layers can be a bit jank (I typically only work on a single layer for that reason). However, you hardly need most of the features to do good work with it. For those reasons you might be inclined to give Aseprite a try, which appears to have a much more active community of supporters.

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I am working in a sequel of "Hentai Sim Brothel" but during these month i'm on my parents home so, until december i will not upload because of hentai images

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>>385966773
>tfw didn't retain a single word from highschool math
Everyone says 40 is when you should start feeling old, why is it happening in my 20s

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>>385966595
Capsule collision is designed for 3D platformers (because it's cheaper than cylinder collision to calculate), it's flat out the wrong choice for 2D and it's a limitation of Unreal that shouldn't exist.

Using flat base checks in the CMP can help somewhat to alleviate it, but I've found that unless you're making a shooter, it's best to just manually override/rewrite large chunks of the CMP's behavior as it's really, really wrong for other genres. If you find yourself doing that, you're on the right track.

>>385966784
I post regularly on /vg/agdg but that's all.

And it's not REALLY a 3D platformer, in a way, though that segment certainly looks like it. It's sort of like a mix between an early N64 collectathon "platformer" and a stylish action game. Think Bayonetta-Kazooie.

Honestly, I just love excuses to post combat.

What is the general consensus on Construct?

>>385967754

Wow. This looks great. Could use a graphic overhaul though.

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>>385944923
Drawing some art and sprites for one personal project but I'm shit at actually making the game part work like I want.

>>385967631
You and me both famalam, I'm doing khan academy since either my memory is this retarded, or I really fucked up my school days.

>>385968116
well it isn't getting one. I tweak the visuals with time (and there's still a lot missing in the way of particles and whatnot) but none of those assets are placeholder.

>>385966514
Looking good. Just remember to not go overboard with those panning camera shots or at least make them skippable. Hate them so god damn much in games.

>>385950409
Why are you creating a game for fapbait if you can't game first.

>>385968594
They're not skippable (though the duration never exceeds about 5 seconds), BUT they stop once you accept a mission. If you fail and retry the game just drops you right back into the mission.

Which in itself can also be frustrating, I guess, if you've forgotten the objective, so maybe that needs to be revisited.

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>>385967754
holy fug dude, i would play the shit out of that.

>get GM Studio 2 free
>actually like it
>new humble bundle has GM shit
>it's GM Studio professional(the first one)

Is there too much of a difference /v/? I just got done with the first game tutorial on GMS2, so it's not like I have too much knowledge yet.

>>385967754

Game looks mechanically solid and looks to be an absolute blast to play, but that art really is letting you down, find yourself an artist.

>>385969113

GMS1 is better documented, GMS2 is not because its still very young. Given its previous track record you could do plenty of cool things with GMS1.

You might as well get both if you can afford to do so. I mean, its an extra $15 for GMS1 and all the extra shit, added on top of what you're already paying for GMS2, so...

>>385969113
The code is almost exactly the same, but i prefer studio 1. I paid for both and I still would pick 1 over 2 for most things.

>>385950409
implement a feature so we can see the real models, that would be GREAT

>>385968562
That's a shame about the visuals, movement looks really solid though

>>385969406
Well 1 buckaroo now if you don't want any of the fancy exporters.

>>385944923
>Lumberyard finally made it onto the image

Proud of my boy Amazon.

>>385968319
You just lose proficiency in things you don't practice routinely. Hell whens the last time you did anything math that's harder than the basics. Can pick it back up easily

>>385962917
ill do that thanks

>>385969406
>I mean, its an extra $15 for GMS1
I don't plan on doing anything web related yet so I'll just buy the desktop version

>added on top of what you're already paying for GMS2, so...
Read nigga, read. I said I got the free version, I haven't paid for anything yet

>>385969445
Thanks for the advice senpai

>>385970106
>Read nigga, read. I said I got the free version, I haven't paid for anything yet

I worded that badly, what I meant to say is that it would be that price assuming you were going to be paying for both of them.

>I don't plan on doing anything web related yet so I'll just buy the desktop version

Sounds good, since it's only $1. You'd be mad to not take it even if you weren't going to use it much, given how much it normally costs. Though I would personally recommend getting the desktop AND web related shit whilst ignoring all the other stuff. If you're ever going to upload toy-sized games for gamejams or on itch.io or whatever you're guaranteed far more plays if the game can be played in a browser rather than a downloadable .exe

>>385970639
Well I guess I could shell out those extra sheleks...

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doing okay
made some progress on this background

>>385970924
Reminds me of Paper Mario.

Looks cool. What kind of game is it?

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>>385944923
Aye

Are there any good tutorials for making a turn-based RPG on Game Maker 1.4?

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>>385971232
thanks
it's a run n gun game in which you can use an umbrella as a shield against enemy attacks and enemies

>>385971290
There needs more jiggle

>>385970924
Is that Sly Cooper on the left?

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>>385971752
That looks fun, anon. Keep it up.

Sounddesignfag reporting in.

I'm not working on anything right now due to restricted number of developers in my country I'm pizza but I'm sorting out with my buddy three showreels in order to show our skills in editing, mixing-mastering, foley, composition, etc. We already have some ideas regarding live action/animation and some less good about vidya, but do you have some suggestions?
We already thought about picking up a very easily moddable game and replace all its sounds (none of us can code but we do have a firm understanding of wwise and fmod anyhow) or in the worst case scenario we thought about just replacing all the audio from some gameplay trailer.
Do you have any feedback/thoughts other than ha! Faggots! ? Because we really don't need any more of those

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I started setting up for the minecart segment of my level.

The animaiton is really wonky right now and there's no track/objects to give it a good sense of not just sliding along the ground, but mechanically it seems to work fine.

Today I've been trying to learn how to bake lighting in Unity and it doesn't seem to be going well.
I don't think baking should take like an hour.

I'd like to have someone to help me design the game and gameplay aspects, find it hard to do everything alone.

>>385971943
if you squint reeeally hard maybe
>>385971970
thank you, i'll try

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Making a puzzle VR game

Just got the toolkit figured out for the most part, now I gotta make the puzzle parts

I want to make a fighting game in Unreal, ala Street Fighter.

How hard is it to make a fighting game?

>>385973553
It doesn't matter. Making a fighting game is a waste of time because fighting games are boring as fuck to play without a thriving multiplayer scene.

>>385973553
Easy if you use MUGEN or some shit. Bad idea because >>385973745

>>385971290
Please tell me there will be actual porn in this.

>>385973113
I like it, what kind of game is it?

>>385971705
Why wouldn't you use RPG maker?

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>>385974456
I'm trying to make a full 3D megaman style game.
Instead of robots, everything is based on sweets/candy.

Only about a week into it so far.

>>385944923
I would like to make a dungeon crawler.
I am somewhat familiar with basic programming (I have completed a university C++ course).
Any advice?

>>385973520
looks pretty cool so far.
I wonder when someone will make a VR puzzle game similar to Perspective

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>When you're the only white kid at a party
Now I've got some ideas for the art style I want, I'll doodle a bunch of basic maps and animation using a much simpler fat brush style.

>>385974996
you've made all that in a week?! tell me your techniques master anon

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>>385975348
Being an unemployed fuck?
Also, all the shit I've done has been mostly half-assed then moved on. It really doesn't look that good which is why I'm going back now and cleaning shit up where I can.

I also had a heads up since I'm basing a lot of this off an old college project that never got off the ground, but had a lot of good concept art to go off of.

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/v/, tell me if this is a game worth making:
- card game, ~4 players
- each player plays a different "faction" or "race" or "people" or whatever
- factions have special abilities and a unique deck of cards
- the game is played over a fixed number of turns
- the order of the cards is not random, at the beginning of each turn players draw a specific set of cards
- gameplay revolves around developing your people to score points
- you can interact with other players by waging wars and establish trade routes

>>385975934
Card game + TBS hybrids are great desu

>>385967485
Okay I just picked up Aseprite
Do you have any tips for a beginner?
What engines do you recommend I use it with? (i.e Game Maker, Unity, etc.)

>>385975934
I understand that /v/ hates RNG but surely you have to some randomness in there somewhere. It's going to get real dull or real tense among players you can do the same shit every time. If people feel like focusing on preventing one person from winning they'll be totally fucked. I know that kind of strategy doesn't really make sense but people end up using it anyway. Don't assume your players will be perfectly rational.

>>385976881
Yes, I was planning on adding some elements of randomness to the game, I just wanted to remove RNG from the drawing of cards. I was thinking of having a random bonus to certain actions each turn.

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>>385977564
That sounds worse than draw RNG

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>>385975934
>the order of the cards is not random, at the beginning of each turn players draw a specific set of cards
Then I can just count cards and win. This sounds really awful.

>>385977765
CG

>>385977802
Maybe RNG in battles then?

>>385977803
>count cards and win
I don't really understand what you mean there. It is true that you could easily predict other players' moves, but if the game is designed around this, I don't see why it wouldn't work. Is this idea just hopeless?

>>385978419
Phantasy Star Online 3 had a mode where your deck was unshuffled. It was really broken.

It might be possible to balance it, but I worry it'll get old too quickly. It's possible if you can somehow ensure there's enough decision-making so that the game doesn't get really samey if you play the same cards in the same order every game.

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>>385944923
An anon told me my animations look like they bugged out when strafing left/right and now I can't unsee it, so I am trying to add some variation to them.

It's not very noticeable in the webm because I added some very light shake to the player model and there is not too much prolonged left/right movement to begin with.

>>385955851
hire me

my portfolio; http://pandan.artstation.com

>>385947373
>>385960651
Who are all these people who want to be game devs and can't do both?

Anyone in the position of needing a programmer or artist due to their own lack of time spent learning either deserves the difficulties they'll run into.

>>385978868
wasnt directed at me but, I dont WANT to program.
I like doing my art. i'd rather join someones project as just the artist.

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Well, I guess it's my turn.

Don't sugar coat it, boys. I know it's "MUH BIXEL AHRT" but I enjoy it.

I don't even know if I posted the right file type so it may just be a still image.

>>385946194
Go kill yourself gogem.

>>385978585
Hey man this shit looks tight.

>>385978998
what's that a game for ants?

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Does this look too much like a swastika? It's a fun pattern and I want to run with it but, I don't know.

>>385979162
lolis tend to be small so it's small
i don't see any problem here

actually i don't see anything here

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>>385979209
just make the boss of the level a big fat guy with big ears

>>385979209
Keep it and survive the eventual leftist shitstorm, you'll get free promotion that way.

>>385977857
i know i'm shit, anon, but at least i'm trying. i'll just stick to posting my vidya music until i have some better updates.

https://soundcloud.com/cayur/dans-mes-reves-je-tombe-dans-un-trou

>>385979209
it looks pretty swastika-y but i doubt something as minor as 1 bosses bullet pattern is going to honestly offend anyone.

i can see that it turns again, so maybe zoom it out more so you can see that better, or narrow it down to 3 beams if it really worried you

>>385978991
See I hate doing lowpolies for zbrush sculpts and I hate drawing but if I didn't do them my game wouldn't get made.

Putting yourself through the shitter for a bit to do what you hate means your project actually gets made.

In a lot of cases it seems people here are dedicated artists or programmers but due to being hobbyists they won't get into a motivated group of people who are gung ho to help out.

Plus then you end up with issues due to anyone aiding you wanting a cut of any sales, they'll want to influence the design of the game so it no longer stays purely your vision, and they may not get shit done in a reasonable timeframe or ever due to lack of motivation.

>>385974530
Wouldn't using GameMaker be less restrictive even if the process of making the game was more difficult or is RPGMaker not even at all restrictive provided you can use it somewhat well?

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>>385979209
on the second bend of the swastika make it into a box, it'll behave the same and it wont look like a swastika anymore.

>>385978565
I understand the problems that arise when your deck is not shuffled, so keeping enough variety and non-determinism would be my main concern as I design the game. I wanted to try a different approach to card games by having randomness in other elements rather than in your deck only.
Maybe I should let this go and come up with something else. I have not yet started serious development anyway.

>>385979209
Just make the projectiles curve instead of making 90 degree turns and it won't look as bad.

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>>385979209
wrong side

>>385979471
i met an anon through these very threads 2 years ago and we made this.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/391240/Forgotten_Lore/

Its not insanely good, but it's something. You just need to find the right individuals.

Got a new job, so I'm putting my coding on the backburner for now since I'm dead fucking tired now. Coding only on Saturdays, saving money every paycheck to comission character art/music down the line.
What's the standard going rate for a twelve frame animation?
How do working anons keep up with their game?

>>385979209
keep it

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>>385979386
Bro woah, I was just making a reference.

CG

Coconut Gun. Ya know, it fires in spurts

>>385979731
>standard rate

trust me you don't want to be paying people that. Just take some time to negotiate.

Also, dont settle on an hourly wage for these guys online. it just doesnt work.

discuss exactly what you want, and tell them the lump sum they'll get if they deliver on it.

>>385978998
thats pretty good. it's cute

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It's going along.
Trying to get the stage 3 background right, fog effects are hard.

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>>385974037
Just tease, Gaben won't let me sell it if it has porn with loli(18)

>>385979209
that's swastika as fuck, honestly.
If you don't mind the inevitable shitstorm, keep it.
Otherwise it shouldnt be hard to change it a bit. Other anons have made good suggestions.

>>385979721
how was the development?

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Working on level/enemy design now

>>385980250
Neat, very Tomba.

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I'm working on an RPGMaker game.

My spites are garbage and I hate them, but it's best I can do. I'm hoping to be able to put together the first part/dungeon as a proof and shopping it around to anyone who would be interested in doing the art.

>>385979209
I watched the gif before reading your post, and swastika was my first thought. Cool pattern, though. I'd just replace the angles with curves instead of scrapping it completely.

>>385971752
dude i love run n gun games, this looks like a ton of fun.
please make sure the boss fights are as fun as everything else because those are my favorite parts.

>>385980250
it looks really good. How do you make a 2d game in a 3d enviroment?

>>385980149
good, i think we got what we wanted.

It's just difficult spending money on portrait artists. (Our card art was commissioned)

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>>385944923
I modified the white hit flashes for larger enemies to be less intense so it's a bit easier on my eyes and gave the first boss an idle animation. Was working on giving it a stomp animation but I've been getting frustrated with it so I'll just use placeholder rectangles for it for now and start working on its moveset.

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>>385980370
Female protagonist

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I'm working towards finishing up a boss battle

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>>385980138
>>385979829
>>385979381
>>385979708
Yeah, I don't know. I might end up keeping it.
>>385979380
Wouldn't fit the aesthetic I have in mind, which is whimsical colorful shit.
>>385979660
>>385980416
90 degree angles look cooler, anons.
>>385979575
Good suggestion. Wouldn't be too much effort to implement either so I'll keep it in mind.
>>385979426
3 beams is a bit too easy, but this is the first boss of the level. I guess it shouldn't be too hard in the first place.

Wasn't expecting so many replies, thanks Anons.

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>>385980370
>>385980532
A party member I haven't put together into a sheet yet.

>>385980250
Looking good so far, nice job.

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>>385979162
I chuckled heartily. <3

>>385980049
Thanks man.

Here's some more shit.

>>385980250
Looks like the most generic platformer in the history of platformers

>>385978585
This looks fucking sweet anon. Reminds me of that old arcade game where you could fight each other as mechs.

>>385978585
that looks amazing. for the kind of game you're making, i think its fine, but maybe give it some more start up time cause it looks kinda odd for it to move that fast with one thruster. looks like hes gliding on ice though. what engine you using? name of the game?

>>385980590
this looks awesome

>>385980250
that's Kloana as fuck and i love it

>>385980636
Looks really cool with 3, i like these bullet effects

>>385980250
CUTE

>>385980704
don't tell me the tree is going to rape the loli anon

>>385980704
>that tree
Is that the game you must play if you're over 25 and own a PC that everybody's been talking about?

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>>385980636
just make a whinsical colorfull buda?

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>>385980370
>>385980532
>>385980657
Here's a sample from the opening screen. Kit is the character in blue and Gil is the one with red hair.

Is this obnoxious dialogue?

>>385980636
3 looks good

2 questions for someone very new to this
1: is there a general for this in vg
2: should i just try all of the free game engines or are there some that are better for specific things/genres

>>385981741
>1: is there a general for this in vg
yes
>2: are there some that are better for specific things/genres
Also yes

>>385978585
Dude, this reminds of zone of the enders, you should look it up

>>385981741
yes but it's trash
also yes, game maker is better at strictly 2d actioney games and unity is better at the rest.

>>385981907
>yes but it's trash
It's pretty much exactly the same. I recognize like half the people here from there.

>>385980309
>>385980672
>>385980807
thanks

>>385980483
I'm not really sure what you're asking.

>>385980746
Thanks. Klonoa/Prinny/Yoshi are my main inspirations

>>385981986
/v/ threads are superior because it's mostly progress that cumulated through the time when they weren't around
/agdg/ is running 24/7 and has its own cancerous board culture. it's a steady stream of shit sometimes interrupted by a stray progress post

>>385981845
>>385981907
thanks, for game maker, should i get the humble bundle to get all of it or is the free version fine

>>385982839
Grab that humble bundle, the pro version's got some handy features and if you ever want to sell the game you'll need it anyway.

>>385950103
Buy it's all the same with another dimension added and fancy shaders?

>>385978585
I like it but it feels kinda weightless still. You control a huge ass mech, there should be some intense weight to it. I think your side thrusters would go a long way to fixing this by

>very slight delay followed by an intense burst to make up for the very brief "lost" boosting time
>shoulders should jerk and twist the instant the boost kicks in
>while boosting left, have the model's right side bend backward toward the camera and bring it in about 1/3 of how far it zooms out when boosting forward
>legs should be splayed out more when boosting to the side to make it seem much faster and energetic like the mech struggles to keep up
>more movement detail in general

There's a lot of little tidying up you can do to add a sense of weight. I think if your animations conveyed weight better it would not only look way better but feel so much more lively too. The trick with the shoulders and legs will help a lot - you need more reactivity in the limbs, those jets are immense so no matter how sturdy that mech is, it's going to be thrown all over the place and it would look glorious.

>>385980992
Bro you just made my night.

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we're on the verge of releasing a beta build for playtesting. I might post it in one of these threads if we feel good enough about it.

>>385975934
make it part "worker assignment". Have a player placard or dash board, and make it so you assign assign those predetermined cards to a slot.

Incorporate dice for attacking or something?

or have a centralized deck that all players can draw from and/or able to purchase cards from.

draw 3 cards from the top of the center deck, bid or roll for first pick, add card to dash board. different "races" get different bonus things.
Like: +3 to buyout when only 1 card in central is left.

scratch that. that all sounds stupid. don't do that. i'll make it instead.

>>385982909
thanks man, i'll definitely get it soon

>>385978585
desu it looks like you've dug your own weightless hole with the design of the mech.

>>385979386
And this music is fuckin' tasty, brother.

>>385985170
It just needs more stretch n snap, the design doesn't really matter diddly squit.

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Is this place less shitty than /agdg/?

>>385980250
not much a fan of platformers but I'd play this

>>385980636
3 looks shit, go back to four
maybe it's just a nazi boss

>>385960049
>>wants it to be "cool like battleborn"
oh. Oh no. Oh nononono, what have you done, anon. Get out

>>385985179
thanks, anon.

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I've only worked on sprites the last couple days.

I think I'm gonna make it so you can fling dirt and shit at enemies, I dunno yet. I just wanted to give the kid a shovel for some reason.

>>385985657
From what I've seen, yes. Barely.

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>>385987361
Oh boy another fucking indie game with atrocious pixel art. God knows we need another one of those, they're so rare.

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>>385985240
>It just needs more stretch n snap
That would look disgusting with how stiff the robot is. He should add a joint somewhere in the back and in general tilt the whole robot more like pic related. Added joints in the legs, not even knee-esque but more like a shock absorption joint lower in the leg to add a dip when landing after flying would help too.

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>>385987470
oh no I have to completely rethink my directive now

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Took a while of playing around with glow and lights, but I think this is starting to look a bit better. At least more atmospheric.