why BOTW is so successful?

>>385926171
because its the only game the Switch has.

>>385926171
>wait eleventeen years for a zelda game
>edging on hype for 4 years after it's announcement
>only game on one console, last game on another
>solid gameplay
>waifus AND husbandos

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Number one series when it comes to "Us, gamers right?" type of cancer.

>>385926171
>only game on Switch
>new "main zelda" after years
>nostalgia
>literally open world Triple A meme features that "are ok when Nintendo does them"
>casual world construction, made for great first impression and insanely repetitive and boring gameplay on later hours
>reviewer who gave it a 7/10 got his site DDoSed, hence people are afraid to give it anything lower than a 9 (and even that gets shitton of dislikes on yt/sites)
>Nintendo fanbase is retarded
I would fuck Gerudo Link with passion though.

It's good, unlike previous installments.

>>385926359
Fuck you.

>>385926359
Fucking this.
Zelda series are great games but fucking man. I can't stand normies with triforce tattoos pretending to be nerdy and spamming "what if zelda was a girl" meme.

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>>385926434
>>385926214
>only game on Switch
>because its the only game the Switch has.

FUCKING STOP WE HAVE SPLATOON 2 AAAAAAAND ARMS

>>385926171
the hype was fucking unreal

>>385926171
>>>385926359
>Fucking this.
>Zelda series are great games but fucking man. I can't stand normies with triforce tattoos pretending to be nerdy and spamming "what if zelda was a girl" meme.

Main reason why I don't associate with those "people."

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>>385926171

I love we are living on a new generation. Twink Link is the best thing ever. Nothing like sweet juicy boypussy on your bed to wake up every morning.

Damn sure Link moan like a little slut, no way he is switch, he is 100% bottom.

>>385926518
>Zelda series are great games
They were great games 20 years ago. Nowadays they're still solid, polished games but something like Skyward Sword or Twilight Princess had nowhere near the same impact as ALttP or OoT did when they came out. They're just pretty good games that do nothing particularly cool or impressive but we still pretend they're the fucking Holy Grail every time one of them comes out because of the "dude it's ZELDA omg!!" attitude coming from a time when a new Zelda game was an actual great, landmark game.

Remember Linkle?

>>385926570
Mario + Rabbids in a couple of weeks too, falseflagging-kun.

>>385926171
It's literally not gay if they look feminine enough.

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this is fucking gay

>>385926359
Breath of the WIld is the perfect storm of both rounding up this cancer along with the "le open world go anywhere" meme to rake in loads of perfect scores and goty awards with people talking about their "experience" while ignoring all the flaws

>>385927905
Nigga, I just told you it isn't.

Its not gay if he's cute and wears girly clothes and the dick is feminine.

tfw no bf

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Because it was fun

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>>385927905
i know.

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Remember when /v/ spent almost an entire year endlessly shitting on the game, doing everything they could to try belittle it - from spreading lies, to cherry picking screenshots?

I'll always cherish the sound of their jaws dropping in absolute fucking horror when it turned out to be one of the best games of all time.

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Unlike the rest of the Zeldas, it's the kind of game that literally anyone can pick up and enjoy deeply.

>>385928408
youre just trolling at this point

>>385926650
Let me grab your butt.

>>385926872
>They were great games 20 years ago. Nowadays they're still solid, polished games but something like Skyward Sword or Twilight Princess had nowhere near the same impact as ALttP or OoT did when they came out.

This is crazy standard Nintendo are held to. Everyone expects each new Nintendo game to be a genre-defining masterpiece which radically shifts the gaming landscape forever. Anything less is seen as a disappointment.

You can't create software on that level every single time. That's an insanse expectation, and yet that's exactly what people expect from Nintendo. Where's my revolution Nintendo?!

Good thing that BotW *IS* a milestone in gaming then.

>>385928641
No!

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>>385928758
>>385928685
>>385928641

>>385928758
Be nice!

>>385926171
It's a great game. I'm glad I'm not as contrarian as /v/ is nowadays so I'm able to enjoy all the other great games that have come out this year.

>>385928676
>This is crazy standard Nintendo are held to. Everyone expects each new Nintendo game to be a genre-defining masterpiece which radically shifts the gaming landscape forever. Anything less is seen as a disappointment.
...which is exactly why people are overrating this boring game to hell and back.

It shouldnt be a disappointment to just be a good game but thats what all the botw dick suckers want to think people who are more level headeed about the game are thinking

>>385928685
How am I supposed to know if you're bf material if you won't let me grab your butt and see if its big enough?

>>385928936
>people who dont praise it as the best game ever are just negative contrarians
Or maybe it's just a good game and people dont agree that its nearly as good as people are making it out to be

>>385928959
Yes!
>>385929041
You take me out and get to know me first!

Because every Zelda game sells.

it's the only game that did open-world right.

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c a n o n

>>385926171
gay people are mental ill

>>385928676
>This is crazy standard Nintendo are held to. Everyone expects each new Nintendo game to be a genre-defining masterpiece which radically shifts the gaming landscape forever.
No, everyone ACTS like each new Nintendo game is a genre-defining masterpiece which radically shifts the gaming landscape forever.

>>385929327
He's into the fishboy and we all know it

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>>385929957
100% straight.

>>385930306
This is gross please stop

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>>385930448
I miss the times when being heterosexual wasn't considered gross. Your parents should've been gay so you wouldn't exist.

Has the PC port been finished yet? I want to dress up link

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>>385930805
>wanting to fuck Link
>gay
That's where u wrong kiddo

>>385930991
>>385930805
>says being straight is gross but doesnt want fucking link to be gay either
???????

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>>385931123
I never said being straight is gross.
Boipussy isn't gay. Is the duty of all men to impregnate them.

>>385930805
>Your parents should've been gay so you wouldn't exist.
You know gay people can have kids too. I can easily fuck a girl to have one. Just put on a blindfold and pretend it's a cute guy is all I need.

>>385931243
>someone posts 100 hetero
>wow gross
>i never said its gross
??????

>>385929062
I never said it was the best game ever autismo

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>>385930991
Of course I want to fuck Link, but I don't go around saying being straight is gross.

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post more

>>385931520
maybe not the same anon

>>385931264
I meant both of your parents. The other part wouldn't be your father. You know what I meant.

post that one with covered bj

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>>385931520
>there's only one guy

>>385926171
>why BOTW is so successful?

the mix of queers, nostalgia, nintentoddlers and brand loyalty.

pretty much everything a person should be shot for

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>>385931894
That's fucking lewd.

>>385930306
Implying she would kiss that fuking manlet lol

>>385932362
More please

>>385932362
yooo he wasn't asking for this one

>>385926518
normalfags know about the zelda girl meme? surprise to me

>>385926171
It's aimed at homoes like you

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Barbarian set is better

>>385934718
>Has a hand print right on his tummy
What does Nintendo mean by that?!

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>>385934801
Who painted it? really curious

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>>385935119
Would love it if its him

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>>385932362
Ultra gay.

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>>385926171
>why BOTW is so successful?
It's the latest instalment of one of the greatest video game series of all time from the world's most revered software developer - and it actually lived up to the hype by being a masterclass in game design which redefines expectations for an entire genre.

Of course there will be people who disagree with that. They get very upset about Nintendo.

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>>385932851
You seem oddly interested in boys sucking dick.

>>385935613
because it's the best stuff
they know what they're doing

>>385927937
Fucking This.
Casual game for the Casual Hivemind

>>385935904
Keep telling yourself that, bucko.

>>385935613
Makes me wish I didn't have a dent in my chest so I could do that

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>>385935901
If you were to meet Link you'd be the one sucking, anon.
He's a strong adventurer and you're basically a bitch.

>>385928330
>No guys trust me it's one of the b-best games of all time! Even though it didn't do a single thing new or interesting and had a heap of flaws which led to the game being mediocre, my standards are low enough to enjoy this popcorn entertainment!

>>385936356
But hes only 165cm

>>385928408
Too bad it's not that enjoyable

>>385928676
>Good thing that BotW *IS* a milestone in gaming then.

Everyone already forgot about this game. And no, the occasional thread on /v/ is not proof of the opposite.

>>385930991
You're literally just attracted to female clothes.

>>385936356
That would be even better, dream come true

>>385931907
God I wish that were me

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>>385936812
>he thinks I only started jerking off to Link with BotW and the Gerudo outfit

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>>385936812
What if I like this more then gerudo thing

>>385937035
>>385936978

>Wanting to fuck Link
>Gay
>That's where you're wrong kiddo

Looks like they aren't wrong then are they? Fags.

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>>385937373
Im bi what the fuck are you saying

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>>385937373
What, you thought wanting to fuck Link wasn't gay as long as he dressed like a girl?
I simply reject the notion that wanting to fuck this is gay, no matter how he's dressed.

I only come here for the lewd links

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>>385937669
You now can only see cute Links

Where do people find these lewd links? Previous threads or somewhere else?

>>385935385
>mfw he's a trap now

>>385937593
You dont get to choose what's gay and what isn't. Choice is a democratic facade to rile up retards.

>>385936707
>Everyone already forgot about this game.
Top kek sure thing friendo, whatever helps you sleep at night.

>>385938019
/y/

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>>385926171
Because its open world and open world games are objectively better games despite the /v/ipsters saying otherwise.

Also because its literally the only good game on the switch LMAO 1 FUCKING GAME HAHAHAHAHAH JUST GO BUY A PS4 BAKA LMAO

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>>385938245
>You dont get to choose what's gay and what isn't.
But I get to choose if I'm gay or not.
I'm not.

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>>385936812
Think again

>>385936057
>>385935392
Its ok man. I get it. Swallowing Nintendo's load and shouting "10/10 would swallow again" would help you fit in. We all want to be "part of it". I get it. But that mentality is why we can't have nice things.
The game itself deserves a 7-8/10 at most, which is fantastic but then you get people heralding it as a "10/10 genre changing redefining masterpiece". Its a bit much. People then take notice and take the claims seriously because why would you think for yourself when you already read on Kotaku what you're suppose to think.
Like i said previously, I get it. But this only causes stagnation and complacency because you vote with your money. Studios see that, imitation ensues and soon we'll be reading "It's like BoTW with guns".
I don't want a future like that, but i guess most of you do.

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>>385938816
cute belly

>>385939415
Koei knows what they are doing

>>385939415
would hyrule warrios release on switch? i have a wii u and the game but i don't want to connect the wii u on my parents room

because zelda games and open world games are very popular also it's a good game

>>385939519
Joking aside, it probably will at some point.

>>385939519
If they are going to do another Hyrule Warrior its going to be a real sequel and not just a few extra stuff like Legends.

>>385938872
If a fedora could talk, it would talk like you. I don't even think BotW is that good.

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>>385939519
I'd say no
Instead we can see cute fanarts of him all the day

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>>385926171

I can assure you 40% of the sales are due to word of mouth, at least in my city

>dude you can dress up as a girl and launch tree logs with jojo powers ecksdee so randum

>>385938872
Most of the people who can't wrap their heads around the game's critical praise are usually either salty or just don't understand what 'game design' is.

I actually doubt we'll see devs trying to copy BotW - it's simply way to difficult and complicated and, at best, they'll half-ass the climbing mechanic and think they've done well.

>>385931567
But it is.

If the next Zelda game is like this they should just go all the way and rip off SotC.

>>385939870
>If a fedora could talk
>Mario Odyssey

It's like Nintendo knows their audience. I hate all of you

>>385940634
So why is the game design so great?

>>385930991
>child bearing hips

This shouldn't be possible

>>385941294
Is English not your first language or is your reading comprehension just genuinely awful?

>>385940634

BotW has almost no actual design though. They created a world with mechanics that sometimes interact with each other in fringe situations, then just let the player go. In regards to actual narrative, pacing, story, combat, sidequests, they spent zero effort into. Design is when a dev handcrafts a quest to provide a look into the game world, does it while validating player choice leading up to that point, and then resulting in a verifiable impact on the game world either through environment or NPC reaction. BotW has this in like 3 sidequests out of all the mindless fetch quests that do this, it's an empty dull unchanging world which only purpose is for you to aimlessly wander into the next seed or shrine.

>>385926171
Nintendo paid a lot for good reviews

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>mfw nintenbros eat anything nintendo shits onto their plate

I hope some muslim shoots up a videogame store or some Nintendo outlet.

fucking vermin

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>>385926171
After this, anything would be successful.

heterosexuality is dead.

>>385941575
Seriously? You wanna still do this after 6 months?

Player agency
Freedom of exploration
Intertwined systems of weather, climate, environment interaction and physics - built upon a foundation which allows and encourages experimentation - creating a a exceptionally sophiscated immersive world where the player can decide their own solutions to traversing the landscape.

There is nothing on system that comes close to what BotW is doing. It literally feels like next-level game design compared to everything else.

>>385942256
just because I'm a deprived gayboy that loves twinks and likes it in the butt doesn't mean I don't want to also have a wife and children.

>>385942210
I loved skyward sword

>>385941750
>Design is when a dev handcrafts a quest to provide a look into the game world, does it while validating player choice leading up to that point, and then resulting in a verifiable impact on the game world either through environment or NPC reaction.
A perfect example of a fucking moron who has no clue what game design actually is.

>>385942370
>make a psychics engine
>create the game world
>let player explore everything in it
>put zero effort to actual content
nice game design.

>>385926732
>not letting him be a submissive top
>not tying him down to the bed whilst you ride on his cock and covering his mouth as he tries to let out his moans when and only when you let him cum in your ass

>>385926171
It takes a shitty game play design (open world) and makes it good. Nintendo does nothing wrong ever.

Don't try and argue this post, because you're automatically wrong.

Anyone know if they're gonna make another patch anytime soon. Would love it if they:
>Gave us some kind of gloves that make it possible to climb in the rain or at least made it rain less
>A hotkey for food
>Another fps patch since I still get occasional drops even though I'm up to date

>>385942635
You're wrong, of course. But it's entirely subjective.

>>385942496
Silly Anon you're going to be the wife in the relationship

>>385942524

>A perfect example of a fucking moron who has no clue what game design actually is.

If you say so, BotW's design is saying to all open world devs. Don't spend any effort in anything, just let players autistically explore the landscape. Give all the tools at the start instead. Don't focus on where things should be, where special items are found, where special quests are discovered. Just throw them on the map like you are throwing darts at a board. There's nothing impressive about "muh player freedom" when there's nothing in the game world that rewards it. You and I have both played the same game because once you've played 20h or so, you've more or less seen the entirety of what BotW can offer. Wacky physics hijinks and leafing enemies off cliffs doesn't change a thing.

>>385942992
Nah, he's objectively wrong.

>>385942370

>creating a a exceptionally sophiscated immersive world where the player can decide their own solutions to traversing the landscape.

>fast travel
>parachute
>gay bird power
>shield surf
>horse
>climb anything

Wow amazing solutions.

>>385941686
>nitpick fedora & talks
>think about another nintendo with said features
>transition into Mario Odyssey and comment on Ninty's audience
>realize you are also part of the problem

Oi bruv, dunno if you think I was the guy you replied to but its clear you can't adapt to a conversation.
If you can't handle the heat...you know the rest

>>385943147
>BotW's design is saying to all open world devs. Don't spend any effort in anything, just let players autistically explore the landscape. Give all the tools at the start instead. Don't focus on where things should be, where special items are found, where special quests are discovered. Just throw them on the map like you are throwing darts at a board
this. it's better to be lazy than hardworking.

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Fuck you, twink loving faggots itt.
Because of you and FUCKING FUJOSHITS, BotW lewds are nothing but FUCKING GAY SHIT.
Tons of cute girls, literally mommy tier fairies, and amazon Gerudo perfect for lewd art and doujins, but all we fucking get is GAY SHIT with Link in fucking plot only clothes the developers purposefully made shit tier to drive the fact that it's just a joke. Yet you fags and fujos and tumbler tards take it too far and gay everything up.

WHERES MY GERUDO DOM DOUJINS, WHERES THE PAYA IMPREGNATION.
FUCK THIS TWINK LINK SHIT.

why is it so fucking easy to trigger /pol/tards lololol

>>385943810

fucking faggots

>>385943147
>>385943304
>>385943635

In most open world games getting to an objective requires nothing more than pointing your character in the right direction on your minimap and moving along a flat trajectory.

In BotW, verticality adds a depth to topographical exploration and navigating the world becomes an interactive and reactive exercise. Seeing an object of interest in the distance requires you to figure out how you will get there, and the game design allows the player to approach situations in their own way and let's them fashion their own solutions depending on the resources they have and/or how they want to play.

Will you climb over the mountains? Maybe equip your climbing gear? Maybe brew some stamina or speeds boosts before you go - that way you can climb quicker and still keep your most powerful armour on. But what about the climate? It's freezing up there. Will you acquire some warmer clothes? Or maybe equip a flame weapon to keep the cold away?

Or maybe you should cross over the low lands? Take a horse perhaps? More chance of enemy encounters or running into assassins though. Maybe you could chop a tree down and fashion a makeshift raft and sail it down river?

The focus on player agency and interactivity is unparalleled in any open world game. Some creative folks even made a fucking flying machine out of junk lying around.

The sheer amount of freedom and experimentation within a world where the systems of interactivity are all intricately connected means that every player will have THEIR own unique gaming experience.

It's takes an extraordinary amount of confidence for a developer to say to a player; go ahead, do whatever you want, it's all good. Most game designers would be utterly terrified to give players such freedom out of fear they would break the game.

Calling lazy design is fucking callous and clueless. Real developers - i.e. people who actually understand what game design is - are in awe of the game. Just get over it.

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>>385943810
Dumb frogposter.

>>385943810
Dumb breeder

>>385943858

Nihilism rots your brain, kid

>>385943810
Do you know, I think this fellow might be upset.

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you are all a bunch of faggots

>>385943304

only thing it's lacking is the ability to travel underwater

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>>385943810
Man, I hate twink Link, too. I just want to beat him up and bully him to show how worthless he is as a character! Give me the chance and he won't walk right for weeks!

>>385926171
BOTW sucks because I could EASILY make another game that is infinitely better, it's just that I spend all my time on /v/ being a contrarian faggot.

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>>385943858
Not a /pol/ tard.
I'm just mad gays and fujos fucked any chance of the females im BotW getting good porn.

>>385943085
I don't care, as long as the wife in question loves me and has my babies.

>>385942370
>Open World Game
> Its ok when Nintendo does it

So the mechanics available used for exploration are why it's 10/10?
You do realize you played the game the same way everyone else did. Though said game touts various solutions/pathways, it really just gets narrowed down to 1. The illusion of choice. It's human nature to find whats most effective, unless you are retarded which then means who was this game pandered to again?
I'll let you think of that yourself

>>385944342
Source?

>>385944387
There were women in BotW?

>>385943858
>>385944387


>lgbt decides to go to /v/


>screeches about /pol/ boogeymen when people get tired of their dumbass disguised off topic threads

c'mon now

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>>385926171
Will this image ever stop being relevant?

>>385928330
>everyone hates it
>good game

>>385943926
Yes they are in awe of the game because of how something so simple {see >>385943635 }
can be gobbled up by the masses.
Raise your fuckin standards

>>385943926

>copy pasting your own posts
>In most open world games getting to an objective requires nothing more than pointing your character in the right direction on your minimap and moving along a flat trajectory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpSNFihDCaQ

BotW is not special in any regard. Open world games have traversal options that suit it, it's not rocket science to merely go towards something in BotW. You can be as mindlessly autistic about it as you want, but you're overcomplicating basic movement options.

>The sheer amount of freedom and experimentation within a world where the systems of interactivity are all intricately connected means that every player will have THEIR own unique gaming experience.

Wrong. There's only so many ways you can spin how sick shield surfing is. Once again, you're propping up basic open world mechanics as something innovative because you're somehow impressed by it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLbnE3utzDQ

>Most game designers would be utterly terrified to give players such freedom out of fear they would break the game.

They'd be terrified because they'd be perceived as lazy hacks.

>It's takes an extraordinary amount of confidence for a developer to say to a player; go ahead, do whatever you want, it's all good.

It's not hard when you make it so that you can pretty much beat the final boss at the beginning of the fight, give the player all their movement options at the beginning of the game, and then make it so that you'll never actually be gated by silly things like narrative, story, those useless things. Literally it's little more than a numbers tweak to just give a character the power to tackle the final boss' dungeon at the beginning of the game and then just say fuck it to everything else. There's no good design here.

>>385942817
Sounds like your a fuckboy faggor

>>385932457
>implying Zelda doesn't dig sissy fag boys
Sorry anon, but you'd get cucked by that twinky manlet. Hell, his feminine dick is probably bigger than yours.

>>385944797


This. lgbt's think the whole world should inconvenience themselves for a few entitled freaks, lgbts don't even have jobs and still commit suicide 50% of the time.

get your OCD under control you perverted wackos

>>385945195
You want to put your penis in another boys butt. That's pretty faggy anon. Also, it doesn't really matter who's topping, you're just as gay either way.

>>385926214
fpbp

>>385945390

this

>>385943926
or just go in a straight line, kill whatevers around you, doesn't matter. won't be difficult, won't be engaging

>>385945820
>he hasn't played the game
You're missing out big time, dude.

>>385944619
>So the mechanics available used for exploration are why it's 10/10?
No. I never implied that. Stop putting words in my mouth. The game's praise is due to variety of different factors.
>You do realize you played the game the same way everyone else did. Though said game touts various solutions/pathways, it really just gets narrowed down to 1. The illusion of choice.
Complete nonsense.

>>385945820
>just go in a straight line,
Yeah try doing that and let me know how you get on.

>>385945968

He's not wrong.

>Or maybe you should cross over the low lands? Take a horse perhaps? More chance of enemy encounters or running into assassins though. Maybe you could chop a tree down and fashion a makeshift raft and sail it down river?

This wording in general is just lol. Because Yiga assassins are a real threat. Nigga just go. Talking like you need a PHD to walk to a dumb ass landmark with your "I can climb anything" system and Rivali's shitblast.

Unlike Twilight and Skyward, it actually does change a lot about the series and simultaneously brings back a lot of exploration to the core gameplay.

Yes, the game has issues, but it's still a major step forward in open world design and nonlinear gameplay.

I'm extremely excited for what the series has in store next, and to see what other devs steal from this games design.

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>>385945169
>BotW is not special in any regard.
>Sunset Overdrive

>Wrong.
>Just Cause

Not that guy. But Just Cause most certainly falls into the pit of the first case, that you're arguing against using Sunset Overdrive as an example.
Sunset Overdrive however, fails to live up to the second case posted. Even if Just Cause delivers in this aspect.

It's not as if the things you can do in Breath of the Wild can't be found in other games. It's that all the those things from many other games, can all be done in Breath of the Wild.
And that combination does actually make it quite unique even if the building blocks may not be.

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>This thread

Christ, it's a good fun game.

Does a game need to be more than that?

>>385945169
Show me a game where I can leap from my horse, shoot a flaming arrow at the grass, ride the up draft from the fire, continue using a variety of different combinations of arrows in mid air to annihilate enemies, land safely back on my horse and keep riding.

The thing that you and so many other clueless chumps don't understand about the game is that everything works because of the foundation it was built on and not as just some flashy effect.

>b-but I can climb in minecraft!
It's not the 'climbing' that's important. It's what the climbing means in terms of designing a game world to support such radical freedom.
>i can set fire to grass in MGSV!
Again, in BotW these aren't just flashy effects bolted on top of the game engine. They ARE the game engine. The core basis of interconnected systems are the very foundation of the game and everything else is built on top - there's a two hour presentation from Nintendo themselves where they show how they worked on a crude 2D version to get their heads around how the core mechaics of the game would mesh.

>>385945998
>Most of the people who can't wrap their heads around the game's critical praise are usually either salty or just don't understand what 'game design' is.
>Seriously? You wanna still do this after 6 months?

Player agency
Freedom of exploration
Intertwined systems of weather, climate, environment interaction and physics - built upon a foundation which allows and encourages experimentation - creating a a exceptionally sophiscated immersive world where the player can decide their own solutions to traversing the landscape.

With a little copy/paste it seems like the bulk of the critical praise according to you are mechanics given to you for exploration but you never implied it. Interesting.
Its not words that are in your mouth anon. I hope you realize that

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>>385926171
borderless white font on a colorfull background image is so aesthetic

>>385947498
It's also slightly racist.

>>385946257
>with your "I can climb anything" system and Rivali's shitblast
Neither of which you can do in the beginning. And unless you've been spoiled you wouldn't even be aware of Revali's Gale even existing in the game.

The fact that you become more powerful and more and more acquire the ability to traverse in straighter lines isn't exactly a bad thing. And it's certainly not something you can do straight off of the plateau.

>>385947498
what the hell why is my screenshot in such a fucked up ratio

>>385946257
Your an idiot.

Stand on top of any mountain in BotW, pick a landmark you want to get to. Straight away your brain will be working HOW to get there. You can't just 'walk in straight line'. You need to put some thought into. Your brain is filtering how traversing works, what items, abilities clothing you have, what the weather is like where you're standing now and what the climate will be where you want to get to. You're processing so many interconnected systems in the game engine (which have all been slowly and cleverly ingrained in your brain before you even left the Great Plateau). You're probably not even aware you're doing it, that's how clever the game design is.

>>385947090

>It's not as if the things you can do in Breath of the Wild can't be found in other games. It's that all the those things from many other games, can all be done in Breath of the Wild.

That's not the point I was making though. If you're going to posit basic movement with flowery over-complicating terms, then you could do the same with any open world movement. game. Other games with actual movement systems that aren't Press button for thing. The only movement in BotW that requires player input is climbing stamina management. Pretty much everything plays itself. There's nothing engaging about it.

>>385947193

>Show me a game where I can leap from my horse, shoot a flaming arrow at the grass, ride the up draft from the fire, continue using a variety of different combinations of arrows in mid air to annihilate enemies, land safely back on my horse and keep riding.
>shallow time-freeze combat

Good for you.

>It's not the 'climbing' that's important. It's what the climbing means in terms of designing a game world to support such radical freedom.

Meaning they put a korok seed on top of a few cliffs and called it a day?

>They ARE the game engine. The core basis of interconnected systems are the very foundation of the game and everything else is built on top

A Physics engine isn't impressive. The only thing that I genuinely have never seen is metal objects attracting lightning. Fire causing updrafts isn't new. Water + Lightning isn't new. Cold/Heat ambient damage isn't new. Nothing else in BotW's system is new. You're getting impressed over systems that have been in video gaming for decades.

>but its all together now

Doesn't change a damn thing. The mechanics are still shallow. Wow, you can be damaged in cold weather, it's not rocket science to counteract it.

>>385942370
>agency
>because no other game has agency

>freedom of exploration
>you can explore in tons of games

>weather, climate, physics, environment interaction
>which also have never been in any game before

so unique, so innovative. just wow

>>385947731

Revali's gale is the only power worth getting. What of it, you're arguing meaningless semantics. Yes, you won't be going into a literal straight line when you go to a landmark, it still doesn't make it interesting.

>go into the lowlands

imao.

>>385948000
>You're getting impressed over systems that have been in video gaming for decades.
>been in different video games*
And that's why it's so great to finally have it -one- videogame.

>>385926171
zelda is overrated

>>385947836

>all this overcomplicating

You're on top of a mountain. What are you going to do, get a horse so you can ride down? You use the fucking paraglide or use shield if you have one handy. Holy shit, you're trying to make this game into a fucking thesis. Fucking stop my dude, it's embarrassing.

>Your brain is filtering how traversing works, what items, abilities clothing you have

I need to climb, what do I do with this +climbing gear. Oh no it's cold, what do I need to do with this +cold resistance gear. Oh no it's hot, what do I need to do with this strangely bulky heat resistance gear. What the fuck dude.

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>>385948000
>You're getting impressed over systems that have been in video gaming for decades.

It's a "desperately have to stack up every open world game ever made to try and hold a candle to BotW" post.

>>385948220

Too bad that besides the lightning/steel interaction, you tackle everything separately as you would every other video game and it's nothing more than switching a 0 to 1 on the myriad of ways the game lets you counter whatever they throw at you.

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>>385948423

>>385948474

Called it.

>b-but it's all in one game, that makes it complicated

>botw is amazing because you can make air machines, fly on a boulder, and other little tricks
Mix of unintentional things and completely impractical things like the airship thing that you'll never actually do while playing.

>chop a tree down and sail it down a river
Yeah no one will ever fucking do that

>>385948571
>complicated
That's arguable. But it makes it impressive.

>>385948220
You do understand a Jack-of-All trades character will always be medriocre. Which is what BoTW is. Having your focus spread across numerous things tends to weaken the more important bits.


That's what you fags just don't understand. Get Ninty's cock out your mouth

>>385947193
>show me a game where i can [do specific thing in botw]

This is when you can tell the pathetic defenders are getting desperate. As that same "show me a game that lets me do ultra specific thing" can be applied to any game.

>climbing means in terms of designing a game world to support such radical freedom.
People speak with such gravitas about thing game but there is no meaning behind it. The climbing means you climb shit, it doesnt mean anything deeper than that. You're fucking weird.

>>385948571
>>b-but it's all in one game, that makes it complicated
It IS complicated though. Most devs would shit their pants at the climbing mechanic alone.

>N-no! You can climb HERE and only HERE. In this little fenced off section where we can predict exactly what you'll do.

>>385948797
That's entirely a matter of taste though. The combinations however remain something relatively unique and if asked the question why BotW is successful I really do believe that this Jack-of-All trades approach is likely the major reason for its appeal.

That doesn't mean it's for everyone though.

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>>385926171

-Returned to the roots of Zelda causing old Zelda fans to get hyped.
-Still had enough shitty story and cutscenes to make new Zelda fans happy, but it also got new Zelda fans to appreciate freeroaming exploration.
-Didn't just try to make a game that pandered to the west, it kept the unique Zelda style and Japanese influences so it stuck out.
-Full on Miyazaki pandering, right down to the logo of the game. Both Japan and the west love the Miyazaki tie-ins.
-Lewd designs which Zelda fans like, some rather clever adult content in a game still acceptable for kids to play.
-They didn't make Zelda the main playable character, which actually makes SJWs happy since Zelda is one of their favorite series for Link. Making Link shirtless only further made them happy.

It's basically the Japanese version of trying to appeal to everyone. And it worked.

>>385948940
>The climbing means you climb shit, it doesnt mean anything deeper than that.

From the same post you're quoting :
>It's not the 'climbing' that's important. It's what the climbing means in terms of designing a game world to support such radical freedom.

>>385948940

Climbing itself is indeed just climbing. You can even say the climbing isn't that amazing since it's basically just a mechanic. But the fact that climbing opens up entire areas of the game you wouldn't otherwise be able to get to and is also used in some boss battles means that it leads to something bigger.

By the same token, you can claim fighting enemies or talking to NPCs is a weak mechanic by itself. It is how those mechanics tie into other things that makes them deep. This whole game is an example of taking mechanics from previous games and making them work together.

A game like Twilight Princess had endless NPC interaction. But that NPC interaction was painfully linear. Go talk to NPC, get quest, do quest, return to NPC. This game improves NPC interaction by having dozens of different things to do besides just a linear quest or a cutscene after talking to them. The same is true for climbing.

>>385949092

>Most devs would shit their pants at the climbing mechanic alone.

Why? Take a look at shrines, the reason why they don't let you climb or go everywhere in shrines is because it breaks the intended progression. Same goes for other games that have actual design in them. Infinite movement everywhere is the easy way out of movement design. Why make a unique landmark that say, forces you to climb winding stairs down to the bottom of a gigantic pit when you just paraglide down. There are no unique experiences in the BotW open world precisely because everything is tackled in a similar and boring manner. Below you? Paraglide. Above you? Climb/revali's gale.

>>385926171
It wasn't though.
It sold poorly for a Zelda game.

>>385950143

This just in. Movement lets you get to places and do things. More at 9.

>thinly veiled gay threads

MOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS

>>385950143
The climbing isn't used in any boss battles and it doesnt open up "entire areas."
>you wouldnt otherwise be able to get to
This implies theres a time when you cant climb, which such a time doesnt exist. They added a bunch of mountains just to justify climbing and stamina when flat land would have been just as acceptable and in fact less time consuming and annoying.

Yes fighting enemies or talking to NPCs in that wording sounds simple, but BOTW doesnt tie them into other things as you claim. The NPCs have the least amount personality, most tedious uninteresting of quests, and least tie in to other quests or content of any Zelda game or any game for quite some time.

Compare to the side quests in Majoras Mask if you want "deepness."

The combat is just as easy and mindless as other Zelda games, except you're less inclined to do it because youre weapons will break. Let me use up my weapons and items to get a chest with 5 fire arrows or another, probably weaker, breakable weapon?

>This game improves NPC interaction by having dozens of different things to do besides just a linear quest or a cutscene after talking to them.
But thats completely fucking wrong. This games side quests are incredibly linear and one note.

I really don't get where all the gravitas comes from

>>385951060

Bro, collect 10 Amber and get your 500 rupies. Just got done with that riveting quest with oodles of player choice and lore.

>>385951060

>The climbing isn't used in any boss battles
The rock monsters and at least one of the main bosses had a climbing mechanic.

>and it doesnt open up "entire areas."
You have to use climbing to get to the top of the rain forest and stop the constant raining. You also need it in two of the mazes. You also needed it to get to a number of shrines that are on cliff faces. You also need to use climbing in a few areas in the desert. This is just off the top of my head. Probably a lot more examples.

>This implies theres a time when you cant climb
No? It's implying that climbing has a use. You are just trying to claim climbing sucks so therefore all the times you are forced to use it, it shouldn't have existed. That's just stupid. Might as well say there's no point in having anything in the game.

>Compare to the side quests in Majoras Mask if you want "deepness."
Talking to an NPC and being given a quest isn't 'deep'. Every Zelda game since Majora's Mask has it.

>>385941294
Mario doesn't wear a fedora.

>>385951060

So you're argument is that climbing sucks because it's a "forced" mechanic? In that case, I will argue against you because climbing also gives you alternate ways to get to places you could also get to by walking. Like climbing the whole rock face in the Petra plateau instead of running on the main path where all the Moblins are waiting to snip you with arrows. Or climbing the side of the mountains instead of walking on paths.

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>>385950710
>wanting to fuck Link is gay
(You)

>>385951754

Pretty sure he's saying climbing is so immediately accessible that it makes mountains and steep hills about as interesting as flat land. Which makes sense. climbing trivializes a lot of locations that would have been 10x more interesting if you were forced to find ways to access, rather than just finding that one outcropping and climbing towards it.

>>385951794
Delude yourself all you want, but you're a fucking faggot.

>>385951592
>copypasted taluses
>boss
No. You can climb them but its a bad method for fighting them

The thing about climbing opening up areas is a useless point because its not something you unlock. You can do it from the start. There is no reason to require climbing up to a maze when a bridge would suffice just fine.

>climbing has a use
It has a use only because they forced you to use it. It's not stupid because it's not fucking fun.
>no point having anything in the game
That's fucking retarded and you know it. Things that are fun should be in games. Climbing isnt. Even if you like climbing, this notion that its groundbreaking or makes the game amazing is ridiculous.

>Talking to an NPC and being given a quest isn't 'deep'. Every Zelda game since Majora's Mask has it.
You obviously havent played MM if you think its sidequests are the same depth as BOTW's.

But I can see how all its lovers are young kids who dont have a basis of comparison

>>385951794
It is.
He is a completely straight dude.
Dressing like a woman ONCE doesn't change that.

>>385950710
>thinly veiled

That's like saying a guy sucking dick in public is in the closet.

>>385952128

>Climbing sucks because it makes anywhere in the game accessible
>Climbing only had a use because you are forced to do it
Whatever dude. You clearly hate climbing and will even contradict yourself to argue against it. So there's no point in continuing to talk about it.

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>>385927692
>only game on Switch
>because its the only game the Switch has.
>FUCKING STOP WE HAVE SPLATOON 2 AAAAAAAND ARMS
>385926570
>Mario + Rabbids in a couple of weeks too, falseflagging-kun.

>I'm quoting your entire post

>And his

OH, well, then.

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>>385926171
>hype

>>385952545
I haven't made any contradiction and you have given up.
Liking climbing in this game is proof people will eat whatever shit Nintendo vomits out

>>385930934
Cemu works fine if your CPU is good.

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>>385953270
Just imagine how assblasted you'll be in 10 years time when BotW is still fondly discussed and analysed as milestone masterpiece.

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Link is fat

>>385926171
open world done right

>>385953905
c-cute!

>Sony niggers are still this assblasted
Top fucking kek

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>>385943810
what's wrong with twinks?

BOTW marks the death of Zelda. It's perfectly logical.

Every game that focuses on open world will be derided for being inferior to BOTW since it's not new anymore.

Every game that focuses on classic Zelda tropes will be derided for being inferior to BOTW since it's not new either.

And if the game tries to do both, it will fail to accommodate enough content to please either side.

>>385954603
You can see into the future?

>>385954603
The same shit was said after ALTTP and OoT. Nintendo always finds a way.

>>385954681
No, but when you grow old you can see into the past. The future is just the past that hasn't happened yet.

>>385954223

what's that site?

>>385954919
https://studiomoh.com/fun/census/

Just beaten the game on Master Mode.
What I want to ask is how Zelda stayed her 17th self while being inside the Calamity Embryo? Did she had enough wisdom to reverse or pause the process of aging that 100 years ago or some shit? Anyways the game is beautiful and all but I can't see myself playing it again after such a lackluster ending after doing all 120 shrines.
Doubt the Story dlc would even improve upon it.

ALSO ITS BULL SHIT after awakening the Master Swords power from the trial it can break after 50 hits

>>385926872
But the zelda cycle Is the exact opposite of that.

>>385944951
>A few very vocal shit posters on /v/ hate it
>everyone

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>>385955157
>tfw hairy bull but would rather be a trap if it were possible
Technology please hurry

>>385944342
yeah i want to bully link too, and beat his prostate up with my penis.

no homo tho.

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>>385944218

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>>385954603

Twilight Princess sold more than previous Zelda games, despite a ton of linear/cutscene driven games that came before. A new Zelda can sell better than BotW.

There's also a ton more stuff BotW could have done. Full temples, more variety in overworld content, swimming, exploring areas outside of Hyrule, better music, etc. There's plenty of room for the next game or even multiple games.