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Does /v/ still play this MMO?

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Does /v/ still play this MMO?
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Every fucking day. Best jrpg with online co-op ever.
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Lyse a shit
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what's the point of using verfire or verstone as a red mage?
according to the tool tip they deal less damage and generate less mana
is it just the lower mp cost?
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>>385877467
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>>385877629
>HAHA YOU ARE NEW TO THE GAME LMAO
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>>385877467
The tooltip says it does more damage than Jolt/Jolt 2, and generates more mana. Read it again.
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$15 a month is fucking stupid for a game with bad story, quests, and content.

Maybe not bad actually, but painfully mediocre.
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I had to change from Flame to Maelstrom to get a fucking win in Frontlines.
Holy shit Flames are freaking terrible.
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>>385877467
Verfire and verstone generate their respective Mana. In endgame, you have to balance the meter or else you gain the opposite color slower. If you had 69 black mana, it would make sense to cast verfire and then verthunder than verfire and jolt II because jolt II is same potency but gives less black mana
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>>385877724
>HAHA I CANT FIGURE OUT THE EASIEST CLASS IN THE GAME THAT LITERALLY HAS 6 BUTTONS BECAUSE IM A STUPID FUCK WHO CANT READ
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>>385877756
i was comparing them to verthunder and veraero
i guess casting them over jolt makes sense
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>>385877467
They outdamage Jolt and don't have 4 second cast times like Thunder and Aero.
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>>385877724
>has rdm unlocked
>new to the game
Maybe you shouldn't have bought a jump potion and gone through the low level stuff that teaches you how to play
Delete your character and start over
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>>385877861
How do millions of wow players put up with the same thing
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>>385877467

jolt to impact generates less mana per 2 GCDs than verfire to verthunder.

same with aero/stone

this of course comes at a higher MP cost, but the MP saved from the melee combo actually just barely beats out spaming jolt/impact (which might be useful to spam those 2 under certain circumstances, but usually its not)
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>>385878163
I think WoW is pretty bad too though I've played a lot less of it
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>>385877467
Cast them over jolt if they proc.
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>>385878149
i didnt buy any jump potions
it takes like 3 days to get to level 50
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>>385877467

its a DC proc starter instead of Jolt, not a proc user

i was confused at first too.
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what do I meld for 70 monk, skill speed and crit?
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At first I was worried that red mage would have MP issues but they actually have too much MP to spare it's ridiculous.
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Yup. It's the best mmo on the market. WoW is hot garbage in comparison.

Just wish my class of choice was in a better place. Summoner right now is suffering. Played absolutely perfectly only rewards with middling dps. Maybe they'll majorly revamp the class and remove the DoT aspect and make it a full pet class. Right now it's like 2 classes in 1 and they don't work well together.
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>>385878383
Crit > Direct Hit > Skill Speed
If you have something like over 2.5k crit then get Direct Hit over Crit
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>>385878578
honestly in some ways I like GW2 better

GW2 seems less interested in cultivating a half-assed narrative and more interested in raw MMO content whereas FFXIV is just meh in all categories
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>been rolling my face on the buttons as Bard all the way up to 70
>try the Susan EX dummy after getting some gear
>actually broke it faster than when I was on RDM
>3350 dps
i feel relieved and terrified at the same time
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Okay, so I've been playing through Heavensward as AST and the HW dungeons have been doing insane damage to everyone and I can just barely seem to keep up at times.
Specifically, the Vault, or the last boss in the Vault. I do fine for the first half of the fight, but after the Holy Flame hits, I have a hard time keeping up.
I've run this dungeon three times now, and I've wiped at least once each time.

Any AST tips would be nice. Still not entirely sure when to use something like Collective Unconscious or how long I should keep it up. Also I rarely use Synastry, so maybe using that more on the tank when I need to heal others would help, but I dunno.
Wiping this many times to this specific boss has kind of shattered my confidence in playing AST.
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I'm done for at least a few patches
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>>385878675
I can't take GW2 seriously. Their raid designer and world designer are trannies. Their game client still runs like Korean MMO dogshit. They keep spitting on their core demographic with stupid design changes. GW2 just has no direction. It doesn't know what it wants to do or be. It's a clusterfuck in every sense of the word. Arenanet has failed the game and fucked their consumers along with it.
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>got to lakshmi in the main story
>spent three days waiting for the queue over peak hour
>work weekends

This game is dead to me.
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>>385879001
yeah it runs like shit and has the SJW shit but I had way more fun playing it than FFXIV I'll be honest
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Fastest way to farm Anima light?
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>>385878836
Use Lightspeed and Largesse for big oh shit aoe healing
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>>385878675

gw2 is worse in every single way, fanboy.
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>>385879082
fair enough
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>>385878836
The Vault is the rectum ravage for newbie healers, so don't feel too bad. There's a metric fuckton of avoidable damage mechanics, which no one ever avoids, but that's in addition to a good amount of unavoidable AOE damage.

Run diurnal sect, keep regen on everyone, and yeah use your cooldowns more effectively, lightspeed in particular can keep everyone alive through some big AOE heals. .
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>tfw an EXpert at susano and still electrocuted everybody as BRD today
God I thought this job would be comfy but I'm just tunneling my fucking UI the whole time
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I was playing non stop for the past 4-5 months, on and off since launch, but recently I've been kind of burnt out. I don't really feel like doing any of the current content anymore, I haven't cleared all of Savage, but at the same time I just don't really feel like doing it. Feels kinda bad cause it was one of the only games I could consistently play.
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>>385879202
not even a fanboy I think it's a stupid fucking game that GW1 blows the fuck out of

but FFXIV just doesn't has as much fun factor, it's a lot of fetch questing and bland cutscenes you have to skip compared to GW2 which doesn't have good GW1 quests but at least you're always DOING stuff
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>>385879042
Don't you have a free company or friends? What about using party finder or asking Novice Network for help?
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>>385878675
>gw2
>raw mmo content
>literally has never had and never will have an end-game

This is a joke right?
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>want to play some Feast on my
BLM
>literally ten straight games with no healers on my team

Sort this shit out Squeenix I swapped to WHM for a few of them but goddamn
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No.
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>>385879464
at least I don't have to pay $15 to experience mediocrity unlike FFXIV
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Do red mages have good aoe? Everytime i big pull these guys are single targeting
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>>385879126
Grind A1S until you lose the will to live.
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>>385879505
Have you ever done frontlines with 0 healers on ALL teams?

Huge clusterfuck deaths everywhere but surprisingly fun
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>>385879775
That shit is both hilarious and freaking fun. Bonus points if they are all DPS
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>>385878836
If you're having trouble healing as AST then you'll have trouble with any healer.

Best advice I can give is to fish for a expanded bole whenever you can. Definitely use Nocturnal Sect because it's way better for that fight. Use synastry on cooldown, it doesn't really matter who you slap it on just use it for the (20%? I think) healing buff. Collective unconscious is a bit of a meme, but use it during the move that the boss uses after you destroy all the orbs for some mitigation and regen. If you're having MP problems then make sure you're using Lucid and keep an ewer in your spread for emergencies. Light speed is a really good "oh shit" button, make sure you're using that.

The main thing about the vault is altar pyre. That move is a bitch, and that boss specifically is very hard on healers. Also keep on mind that the difficult will vary wildly depending on the ilvl of the people in your party. Push through man.

SICKNESS MUST BE PURGED
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>>385879751
All they do is spam scatter
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>>385878836
Use a regens or something and focus target on the boss so you know when his big skills are coming
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So, i cleared O1S and O2S for the week. This means that i'm pretty much done with them untill the next reset right? No point in killiingt them again this week?
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>>385879751
Yes but all rdm players are retards that want to do the jump in combo
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>>385879751
No-one in this game has good aoe.
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>>385879918
You guys may hate on lyse, but she wasnt meant to be smart in the first place. You guys played through all the story and know damn well that she was the brawn to that little lala faggot's brain. Of course she's hotheaded and acts on emotion. And I believe she is also not fit to be the king of Amigo which they are clearly setting her up for.
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>>385879751
RDM aoe is literally spamming one button
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>>385880202
t. ACN player
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>>385878836
For starters keep in mind that a lot of the stuff you encounter is muscle memory mechanics, you will get used to the vault boss in time and it will seem like he's dealing damage in slow motion. Try to use a certain event (before aoe damage happens) at the fight as a signal where you know AOE damage is coming so you can prepare.

In any case on to tips.

First I'd like to say I fucking hate your main class for completely stealing the identity of SCH and WHM and overall being designed like shit.

With that out of the way. Diurnal sect for pulls and Nocturnal Sect for bosses, but if its a hard boss and you feel like you can't keep up I recommend diurnal since its the easier of the two sects.

Since you're still pre-60 Lightspeed is your "snap heal" CD. When you have a time where aoe damage will come consecutively, this is the CD you need to use. Later on you will get earthly star which is a placeable aoe that you activate at anytime anywhere between the time you placed it and 20s later. You basically use this to heal through aoe damage once you get it falling back to lightspeed as an emergency.

I recommend you get into the habit of casting benefic 1 or 2 into aspected benefic whenever you are healing the tank and their regen is about to fall off.

Essential Dignity is your single target snap heal, try to use it when the tank is at 25% health or less to make the most out of it.

Heres a big tip most seem to gloss over, the effect of synastry activates even when healing the synastry'd target. So if you put it on the tank and heal them for 1000, the tank gets an extra heal of 400. This makes AST into the best single target bomb healer in the game. Don't forget you have larguesse, its a good idea to combine it with this when you need bomb heals.

Try to DPS whenever you can, but don't prioritize it. However, I must stress that its important for a healer to develop the dps healer mindset as it is actually very relevant in endgame.

Cont in another post.
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>>385880202
Yes they do, unless you're a smn or sch
>someone tries to say mnk has bad aoe because they don't know how to aim a cone
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>jump back to level 40 WAR after SB hit
>no more flash
>running out of tp whenever I need to grab strays with tomahawk or overpower

How am I meant do deal with this shit, it feels so much more restrictive than PLD and DRK that have easy MP regen mechanics
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>>385880351
Collective Unconcious is a useful cooldown to use to apply regens for the most part. You can use it to mitigate certain attacks as well, I recommend using it whenever you see a stack mechanic about to happen, or in transition phases where the entire party gets a big hit, but never keep it up for its max duration, that is a pointless endeavor.
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>>385880403
TP gates the fuck out of WAR. The whole TP funding ability that dps got is suppose to fix this, but no one but discord parties will do that shit for you.
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>>385879624
My legacy sub is only $9. That's not a whole lot of money for a whole month if that's what youre implying wagecuck.
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@385877109
That's pso2 you turbodingus. Too bad its lategame is somehow worse than ff14's.
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>>385878836
>>385880351
Oh and I forgot to say, Always use lucid dreaming followed by Celestial Opposition. Never use CO for your buffs unless they line up with your lucid dreaming.
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>>385878836
Best dungeon of the whole game
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>>385880546
Legacy sub is impossible to get for new subscribers faggotron
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>>385879340
Nice blog!

No but seriously burnout is good. I would worry about your sanity if you didn't burn out after that length of time which I can only assume was 5+ hours a day.

Take a break and come back fresh.
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>>385880389
SMN has better aoe than MNK the fuck you talking about

Bane, Deathflare and AKH MORN BITCHES blows mionk out of the water
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>Play BLM for big booms
>Not even top 5 dps
>leveling rotation is absolute shit
Guess I'll just level RDM
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Whats the highest skillcap class/job in this game? I'm going to start playing but ez mode classes bore me.
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>Join fc's static thinking it will be a good idea
>Black mage constantly bitches and moans whenever he has to do mechanics
>Constantly dies from his attempts to cheat the mechanics
>Everyone listens to him despite having no rank in the FC because he has the most melds
>He tells people not to float or go out during bomb drop
>tfw too late to find a static

I made a mistake.
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>pat boivin plays it

Tell me why I should ignore this fact
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>>385880601
You can always buy a legacy account from someone else.
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>>385880652
BLM puts out stupid high damage though gitgud
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>>385880790
not going to that trouble my duuuuuuuuuude instead I'll just buy a GW2 account with the two expansions for $50

not $75 (month subscription included) and $15 in perpetuity or 10.
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>>385879624
that was unnecessarily defensive for pointing out the truth.

You realize your expansion is going to be the same massive disappointment as HoT right? ANet are such hacks I actually turned down a job offer with them. So glad I did. I would have hated to be stuck there pretending to drink the cool-aid knowing I was helping make a shit game.
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>hop on the savage train
>hit a gear gate because the weekly rng drops cuck me non-stop
>gear doesn't even contribute to winning if people continue to fuck up mechanics
why do i still play this game
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>>385880508
Welp, guess I'm gonna go back to my DRK then.
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>>385880901
I mean it's the truth, I don't have as much fun with GW2 and I don't have to pay a monthly subscription (or even pay a single penny anymore) in order to enjoy it.
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>>385880852
The entry sub is $13 for poorfags like you.
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I played before the first expansion came out. It was my favourite mmo that I've played.
Is the samurai class as cool as it looks?
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>>385880901
>>385881016
*I don't have as much fun with FFXIV as I do GW2

fuck I'm drunk lol
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>>385880642
Monk has high consistent aoe damage, and some of the biggest whenever you want burst with Perfect Balance. Summoner will burst higher but on their retarded rotation so they're generally sacrificing damage somewhere in advance of the group pull to burst as hard as they can.

Still though, good Summoner and a coordinated tank will fucking melt through full-pulls, but that shit is awkward to line up.
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>stormblood was a failure
>still getting login queues 6 weeks in
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>>385880652
BLM is THE big dick dps. If you can't/don't crave gettng into a furious measuring contest with the other BLM in the raid then you aren't meant to play that job.
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>>385880257
Who else is better than Lyse to lead the Mhiggers?
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>>385880828
>>385881162
And yet not a single top Neo Exdeath kill on FFlogs has a BLM
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>>385881180
Mnaago
Ilberd
Gaius van Baelsar
Ascians
Morbols wearing crowns
Anyone but HER.
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>>385881135

>still getting 6 week queues to see any content.
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>>385881180
Erik, Raubahn, even fucking Widargelt since he has Erik telling him what to do. Meffrid if he hadn't gotten himself murdered, Gundobald because why not, Landebert for REALLY why the fuck not. All of these Ala Mhigan highlanders are smarter than Lyse and actually lived in the fucking country.
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>>385881180
A non-Mhigger, these people are incapable of functioning on their own. I mean fuck no wonder Gaius saw Eorzea as a land of savages he spent two decades surrounded by Mhiggers.
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>>385881274
>using a mechanics cuckold job like BLM in progression
good joke
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>>385881274
>RDM does as much DPS as BLM
>but is more mobile, much easier, and has one of the best buffs

bravo yoship
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>>385881180
Exdeath
Alphinaud
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>>385881289
Isn't Mango Pineapple her number 1?
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>>385881379
Wasn't Ala Mhigo the dominate power of Eorzea before the Garleans came?
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>>385880732
Summoner is very high skill cap. Unfortunately it's also the most punishing class in the game. When another dps dies they maybe lose 10-30 seconds max of build up, Summoner loses 2:30 on average. They also have so many ways to fuck up and lose even more time effectively killing their rotation for 60 or so seconds. It's incredibly difficult to pull off especially on fights where there's lots of things going on, not to mention on top of everything you're also babysitting your idiot pet who sits in AoE's and dies forcing you to swiftcast them back out. Bahamut requires you to stand perfectly still or he stops casting. Enjoy having your "AWESOME" moment feel like shit because the asshole won't continue casting. Also everyone hates you because he blocks everyone's view of the fight.

All this, and you don't even get to do high tier dps. Mid tier at best.
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I'm playing the far superior FFXI
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>>385876971
Can someone here please tell me what's good/cool about FF XIV ?

Is it worth playing on PS4 if you don't have a decent PC ?
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>Done with weekly O1S-O3S
what now? O4S is pretty much impossible for pugs. Should i quit and play something else
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>>385881512
Whats the second highest skillcap then, I don't usually like aummoner classes because of the issue you mentioned, shit ai.
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>>385881458
Mango Pineapple shouldn't be the leader of ala mhigo because she's a cat and a woman, it makes no sense. She's not even of noble birth.
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>>385881493
Haha no. They TRIED to take over and got BTFO because they were expansionist assholes, then spent the next half century trying to rebuild only
to get BTFO again by their own king and then get BTFO AGAIN by the Garleans.
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>>385881527
It is a polished themepark MMO that while it has its annoying low points (most of which are unfortunately stacked towards the front) has a overall nice story that eventually feels like a good classic Final Fantasy.

Playing on PS4 is totally fine, though if you wanted to get involved at high level it'd be kind of important to have a keyboard and a phone to do out of game communication. The game's got good pad controls and it's not really a negative to play with one.

It has a free trial, give it a go. It's not for everyone, keep in mind it's pretty much constantly uphill in terms of fun/complexity, but the first part is gonna be boring as fuck.
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>>385877297
seriously fuck Lyse, I want to punch her in the face for being a dumb cunt.
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>>385880732
hardest to perfect: bard smn
kinda hard: sam blm nin

All the other jobs are babby tier. Mind you this has nothing to do with how easy the jobs are to play on a basic level, just how high their ceilings are. Some jobs like bard are both incredibly easy to play but also have the widest disparities between good and bad players.
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Just hit 51 on my Miner, are leves still the best method to level, or are collectible king now?
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>>385882067
Im assuming bard is healer/buff?
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who here on exodus
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>>385882273
me, wassup nigga.
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it's week 3 anon, you have cleared o4s by now right?
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>>385882395
How do I find time to raid between ERP sessions?
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>>385877297
>For the rest of the expansion we'll have to put up with this bitch clenching her fist and throwing tantrums.
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>>385882395
>purple
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>>385881527
It's fine on PS4. There's a free trial up to level 35.
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>>385881717
Well, probably Samurai but that's locked behind level 50. Until then your best bet is another mdps unless you want to insta queue your way to 50 in that case pick a tank. Remember you can switch your class at any time and at 50 you just jump right into SAM and RDM. If you want dps I'd suggest another Melee. Not Dragoon since that class is boring as all get out until past 50. Maybe just do Puglist/Monk. It's fast paced and has lots of positionals which will prepare you for SAM.
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>>385881945
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>>385882609
Samurais are always badass, only coming second to templar knights. Guess Ill aim for that then. Thanks bud
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>>385882395
Nope. Only got through Susano EX.
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>>385882349
death to aurion pax
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>>385882243
They a archer type dps job, with a lot of little buffs and procs to juggle and micromanage constantly.

They do 'buff' people with certain cooldowns as a token nod to the traditional bard archetype, but it's all dps related stuff and for all intents and purposes they're like NIN where they're primarily a dps job that just happens to have above average utility.
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>>385882609
>>385882067
>SAM
>High skill cap
Huh that's interesting, what makes them have a high skill cap? I haven't tried the job out yet but was thinking of doing it.
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>>385882243
Bard is ranged physical dps. Square dropped the hard "Ranged Phys is support" with Stormblood so now they're just ranged dps with a bit better buffs than the other classes.
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>>385882798
Alright then Ill check it out, dps/buff sounds like it might be easier q time at least rather than pure dps.
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>>385882695
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is it possible to have the PvP style macros in PvE? its so comfy and easy, and it works how you'd actually expect for RDM. like, some of the PvE skills say they get replaced on a proc, but they dont, its still a separate action / hotkey. in PvP skills do actually replace themselves on proc.
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>>385882875
Bard counts as dps for queues so enjoy
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>>385883356
rip can't wait for 30+ minutes of waiting
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>Stormblood changed PvP
>Everyone I talk to hates it
>Play it
>Dunk fuckers as MCH with hilarious 3 ammo heated combo wildfires with stun and execute on healers

I mean, having healers able to spam nuke heal people kinda sucks but holy shit dropping a retard WHM/AST who're focus healing their bff is hilarious.
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>>385883356
What the fuck is he doing here?
Why is he still alive?
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>>385882067
Bard drips dps like a motherfucker but I found that I'm still doing ok with a mistake here and there

BLM and SAM on the other hand makes a single mistake and loses a shitton of dps
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>>385883513
did you even watch the cutscenes post nidhogg ex?
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>>385883513
>>385883356

Didn't mean to reply. Sorry.
Seriously, how the fuck? Wasn't he literally a ghost in 3.3?
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>>385883513
to be cool and make you miss Heavensward
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>>385883501
PvP now is better than it was before. I'm sure it has more to do with people getting used to how it was and now having to adjust to the new system. Honestly, this is the only way to make PvP for an MMORPG. If they could do something about the shitty netcode and the delays on abilities we might actually start to attract more PvPers to the game.
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>>385883713
No, because I didn't have people to run it with, and I resubbed pretty much for the week before and after 3.3 dropped.

Is that the first time extra story details have been locked behind EX clears?
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>>385882395
>Work blasted me with horrible hours and I had to help my parents with cleaning their house on top of it.

I'd like to try and do O1S, but if I try and do a learning party now I'll get nothing but shitters.
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>>385883726
No the eyes were removed and he was fine, you're thinking of Haurchefaunt.

Or Ysalye. Estinien is fine.
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They got like some kinda siege pvp map coming up, so I'm fucking hype for that shit. The only thing I really want to change is the MP cost for healing spells, making it harder to spam nuke heal without running oom, and removing every fucking healer getting some kind of instant cast passive on shit for PvP, nothing more frustrating than 5 guys on a DRG and the dipshit WHM just spams Cure II and pops his Bene.
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>>385883828
I think Anon just meant Nidhogg trial and not the dungeon one. You find out about what happens to him in the main story.

He was in a coma or something afterwards, and then when you check back on him later on in the story, he's gone from hsi bed leaving his helmet behind without saying goodbye.
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BLM with welfare gear and little SS is close to unplayable
Just using oGCDs between your casts more than once makes you drop Enochian
Who the fuck designed this shit
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>>385884024
>>385883828
this, I made a mistake, it's MSQ content after normal mode.
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>>385883280
No. Git gud.
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>>385881274
>>385881420

Of the 10 highest individual player parses in V3S, 6 of them are BLMs.

There's also a huge gap in average DPS between BLM and RDM at high levels of play: https://www.fflogs.com/statistics/17/#dataset=90

The reason RDMs are more prevalent in V4S is that RDM is easier to play and has more utility, not that it's stronger or even equally strong.
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>>385883956
>>385884024
I'm probably thinking of Hauchefaunt.
It's been over a year since I last played, so I honestly forgot the specific details.
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>I'll step on your dick until its reduced to nothing!

Damn Sqe. Was that necessary?
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>>385882752
people on the server call him autism pax. you should know the shit he doesn't want novice network to know.
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>>385884249
One of the best scenes in SB. Here's another.
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ah fucking finally
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>FC mate says BRD is "now too hard to play"
>Switches to RDM because it's complexity is "just right"

I thought it was going to be SAM that attracted all the shitters. Thanks for the braindead player magnet class SE.
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>>385882837
I can't pinpoint the exact reasons but when I'm against a SAM doing 500 above me I just straight up use less ogcds than him in the logs despite doing my positionals properly, and the disparity shown here is everyday occurrence
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>>385884574
People end up sucking at RDM surprisingly often
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>>385884362
Indeed they were!
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>>385884574
RDM is easymode as fuck, everyone assumes it's SAM because there's more terrible SAMS but if you've bothered to play RDM it's an absolute snore.
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>Bloodletter resets nanoseconds before my finger hits the Empyreal Arrow button
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I was thinking about getting back into FFXIV but I heard they really changed how combat works since Stormblood. Is there a good video explaining the changes? I mained MNK if it matters.
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>>385884917
I got RDM to 62 before dropping it. I had started watching Netflix during dungeons to keep myself focused.
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>>385882837
From what I hear they're can seem easy to play on a basic level (just smash out your sen combos then midare for op damage blah blah), but there's actually a bit of nuance to optimal usage of various things, especially once you get hagakure that lets you convert sen into kenki.
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>Run O2 6 times since reset
>Lost 10 rolls on lenses in a row

I know RNG is RNG but it hurts.
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>>385885075
SE prune some abilities and made some of this abilities cross role (no more level up other classes to get skills)
Just log in a get a feel of the new skills
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>>385885075
It isn't a complete overhaul. Mostly that the removed a bunch of skills and changed how cross class (now "cross role") skills work.

Read this:
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/jobguide/monk/
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>Ala Mhigo and Doma aren't hub cities like Kugane and Ishgard

Fuck Yoshi-P
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>tfw in the Top 5 RDM's on my server
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>16 (sixteen) machinist neo exdeath parses
>300+ bard parses
What went so wrong? I bet at least half those mch parses are actually bards reclearing it on mch for the lulz as well.
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>>385885218
>tfw you max out Creation tomes trying to get Omega drops
I don't have to do any Expert roulettes this week I guess...
>>
free
kupo
nuts
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>>385885515
What happened with MCH is a real shame. I remember how it was the class most people were hyped for in HW but then it had completely clunky shit mechanics and pretty much everyone dropped it. And if that wasn't enough every expansion shits on them even more
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>>385885654
Mol
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>>385885404
Concept art looked way cooler desu, I want those comfy hanging gardens and tiered levels to hang out in, kinda like revenant's toll turned up to 11.
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>>385885335
I love Geva.
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>>385885075
Mnk didnt really change too much, you lose a dot and no more stun but at lvl 62 your weaponskill crits have a chance of giving you a chakra stack and at level 70 you get a partywide damage buff that make's their weaponskills have a chance to give you a chakra buff
it's fun
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>>385885689
noughts
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>>385885515
>>385885671
Kind of feels like they should just forget MCH and completely overhaul it in a major patch at this point. As it stands it really doesn't have a reason to exist.
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>>385885515
BRD gets a shitload of utility while MCH gets shit utility. MCH is also a pain in the fucking ass to play.
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>>385885419
Ok.
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>>385885689
Uhm Ala
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>>385885704
How much dicking do I need to give her to make her lose her bitchiness?
She is a great guildmaster, I love her a lot. Same with Serendipity.
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>>385885335
>>385885338
>>385885750
Thanks for the info.
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Anyone else bored already?
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>>385885689
Fray
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>mfw I just ran through all of the Crystal Tower stuff for the time tonight

I wish I had been willing to deal with the queues and do these earlier than now, since they explain why Nero begins to hang out with us. I was kind of surprised when he just showed up during the lead-in to SB They were really fun though and the first raids I've done in this game since buying it. On top of all that I got the Puff of Darkness too, p cute

Are the raids that lead from Void Ark as good as these?
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>>385886028
Just take a break bro. Yoshi says its fine
Still pay your sub tho
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>>385885774
the unfortunate thing is that it was fine before SB hit and they gave it an overhaul that it didn't need and nobody wanted
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>>385886028
I would be bored whether or not I played, at least this gives me something to do.
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>>385886070
Bestest NPC ever
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I just started playing this MMO! I got my BRD to 50 and I'm very nearly at 40 with my MNK!
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Increase Elezen head size by 10% and they'd be perfect.
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>>385886157
>Best job NPC is literally (You)

Really activates my almonds.
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>>385886180
Having fun, anon? Did you try the raids like Crystal Tower or Coil of Bahamut?
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>>385886090
Mhach and Dun Scaith are pretty good, but Void Ark is a complete fucking bore.
Not sure how fast your pops will be though.
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>>385886157
>didn't know anything about the DRK quests
>think Fray must be a refreshing and cool side character compared to the other lame-ass job NPCs
>love him
>find out later on he's just the WoL acting ass-ravaged and throwing a temper tantrum
>mfw
Not sure what to think anymore really.
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whats wrong with MCH, and how does it play? shooting guns is always satisfying. i don't care about savage progression or anything like that.
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>>385886286
I'm on Brynhildr, so the queues are only bad sometimes. For example, I waited nearly 4 hours for Labyrinth, 40 minutes for Syrcus, and 7 minutes for WoD. Gave me a good opportunity to level mining for a while

Seriously she's so cute, I'm really glad I lucked out on my roll
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>>385886427
>how does it play
Like shit.
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lf mateus friends
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>>385886427
MCH uses the 123 combo system like melee but it's RNG. You have a 50% of activating the second combo skill when you use the first, and then 50% of activating the third one. On top of that the majority of you damage depends on a 1 minute cooldown which means that outside of that 10 second window you hit like a wet noodle
The new heat mechanic is even worse because it's completely useless for 10 levels until you get skills that actually interact with it and even then it barely does anything and is in fact counterintuitive
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>>385886028
Go play another game. It's a Yoshida approved habit.
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>>385886489
>She rests on your shoulder and moves her legs up and down
That shit is ultra cute!

I also lucked out when I first run WoD. Got her and it is my favorite minion.
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>>385886090
They're pretty much the same thing. Well, maybe that makes them sound too much the same. They're worth a queue. Well, unless you're a tank. Tank queues are awful for 24 man raids except the first one.
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>>385886738
>Tank queues are terrible for 24 mans
Hmm, I did the whole Crystal Tower stuff as PLD since it was the only tank I had that wasn't overgeared to heck. Maybe I'll try Void Ark as SMN, I've got it at i260 and haven't run any dungeons with it
>>385886641
>mfw spoilered for giraffe
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>>385887001
>male elezen
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>>385886373
Heroes aren't allowed to fear or be annoyed, anon. They need to uphold the responsibilities others throw at them
Fray was the most human emotion the WoL had: he was sick of the responsibilities, hypocrisy and completely and utter incompetence of everybody.

I loved at the end of the quest when you accept Fray is a part of yourself and you ask for his help.
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>>385887168
>Fray starts taking over the journal entries
>mfw he does it again for the 60-70 quests
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>>385886373
>t. Mol tribe dung gatherer
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"Just cut my enmity in half senpai" button for SAM fucking when?
I can't do shit when retarded tanks spontaneously explode in O2S.
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>>385887392
Speaking of SAMs, since I haven't leveled it yet

Why do I keep seeing the party's SAM standing next to me and getting cleaved when I'm tanking? Is there a positional or something that requires them to be up front? I don't see this happening to any other melee DPS
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http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/ranking/frontline/weekly/?sort=match

Be sure to poke them if you're on their server and /laugh .
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>>385887392
>o1s
>MNK
>perma tankstance tank so i figure i'll be fine swapping out diversion
>rip hate on opener
>retard tank can't provoke back in time
>mfw Twin Bolt
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>>385886028
yep
i beat all of stormblood and already did both EX trials now I'm pretty much done with the game

I don't feel like getting into another static for savage either or gearing up. I think I'm just done with the game.
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>>385885075
They pruned more boring abilities to make room for more exciting abilities, the game itself didnt change significantly in terms of mechanics
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I'm trying to figure out the end game gear treadmill since I haven't been on it in a while.

(uncapped)
>verity tomes for i310
>Susano/Lakshmi EX for i320 weapons
(weekly capped)
>omega normal for i320 gear
>creation tomes for i330 gear/weapons
>omega savage for i340 gear/weapons

Do I have this right?
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>>385887691
>Really want to rank up on PvP
>230ms
Kill me, please.
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>>385887862
Play a ranged.
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>>385876971
I play tree of savior.
>>
>one fucking day to clear the only raid
nice content
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>>385887947
>tfw I play brd on 400 ping
>lose out on heaps of dps due to high latency
>class is also very punishing

its a good idea trust XDXDXD
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>>385883028
>Highlander
>breasts are even smaller than the Highlander minimum

Lyse fails at even that.
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>>385887817
Pretty much, Lak Ex gives 320 accessories, and you should start doing Omega Savage as soon as you can, since creation tomes take forever to give out full sets of gear.
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>>385882395
I would like to but my black mage parse less than our warrior.
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This is your party for tonight
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>>385886427
damage is bad, like REALLY bad. And frankly if you don't care about savage progression you will hate it even more than raiders do - because its shit for low level/casual content as well.

Their potencies are low, their toolkit is jank now that they have this awkward overheating system. Enjoy plinking away at that mob for 140-160-200 potency per gcd, meanwhile the rdm is casually tossing out 300 potency every gcd with far superior ogcds to yours as well.
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>>385888360
Switch to RDM for the love of christ
>>
I'm subscribed but I haven't played for over a week.
I'm still in middle of Heavensward content.
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>>385887553
There isn't.
If anything they are trying for procs from Third Eye to do Seigan.
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>>385888424
>implying that's bad for DF
Replace the PLD with another WAR doing 500 dps, then nuke your SCH's damage down to 0. Then replace yourself with some retard spamming jolt. There's your average DF party.
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>>385888427

ok i'll keep on with my main plans of AST and RDM. my distant later alt was gonna be MCH or MNK, probably.
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>>385888257
Minfillia had rocking Highlander tits on midlander body, so its clearly possible but Lyse is just that bad.
>>
Is dungeon spamming the best way to level a healer from 60-70? Been leveling AST for a healer, since I have DRK at 70 and RDM at 60.
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>>385888732
It's the best way to level everything now, including dps
SB dungeon queues are 5-10 minutes top
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>>385888710
Also the voice of a goddess
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>>385888604
I saw a NIN doing 600 dps the other day
You used to do 450-500 at level 50
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>>385888424
playing it safe for the clear senpai
>>
I fucking hate DPS that pull. I hate them so much. Even if it's easy content fuck you. All you're doing is making it more of a bitch for us tanks to maintain hate. You're lucky that healers generate hate by existing or else I would let them fucking murder your dumbass.
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>>385888658
Can't go wrong with RDM, they're pretty much guaranteed to coast to the end of the expansion with no major flaws.

>guaranteed spot for raid progression as long as dualcast verraise is a thing
>excellent damage for the mobility they have and the utility they bring
>just great in general for all the non-raiding random stuff you wanna do ingame, undersizing old content, potd, roulettes, open world stuff etc.
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>>385886210

I think you mean increase Roe female ass sizes and they'd be perfect
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>It's a "You have a RDM in your party that hard casts Veraero and Verthunder" episode
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>>385888912
600 DPS sounds like somebody went AFK for 99% of the fight, even a GCD every 10 seconds with autos does more than that.

hope you kicked that faggot
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>>385889065
>It's a "You have a RDM that can't go above 2.5k dps." episode
I really don't know how you can do that, its such an easy class to hit above 3.5k normally
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>This week
>84 percentile on O1S
>93 on O2S
>Mfw 34 on O3S
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>>385889220
>stack /ss/ for BLM
>switch to RDM
>3.5k dps
h-hehehe
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>>385888257
>>385888710
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>>385889342
My AST still gives me Arrows on reflex since I was BLM before RDM even though our SAM benefits from Arrow way more than RDM does.
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>>385878675
Dumbest post in the entire thread.
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>>385886210
That's a great glamour, I think I'm gonna steal it.
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>>385889428
>>
Is it safe to join a O3S clear party if I've seen everything except Iron Giant + NINs? Every fucking prog party just makes random mistakes all the way through.
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>>385889261
The percents mean you're that percentile of everyone that uses fflogs?
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>>385889489
That's funny, your mom didn't think it was dumb when I was fucking her brains out last night
>>
> played HW a lot, took a break
> Stormblood hyped, decide to give it a go
> This stupid main character is unbearable, what a dumb cunt.
> something feels wrong, story and cutscenes feels like a downgrade from before.
> finish msq, it wad okay 6/10
> time for endgame baby
> why does the mechanics feels samey?
> holy shit the raids are the same from HW
> The ENTIRE expansion is copy paste wtf????

And now my fc bros are dropping like flies one by one. This has got to be the worst expansion in any MMO and i love FF.
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>>385889428
ps4 limitations
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>>385889629
Basically yes
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>>385889261
>60th because of people slipping off
>41th because of raises
>still can't clear o3s because dps can't into mechanics

being a healer is suffering
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>>385889625
No
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>>385876971
I play it for 30 minutes each day outside of new patches.
>>
How would you implement elemental damage/resistance to the game and make it fun?
Or is it impossible at this point?
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>>385889625
O3S last phase is just redoing the same stuff again, expect random.
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>>385887168
>>385887286
So are we getting another schizo hallucination in 5.0? Pretty soon we'll be able to fill out a whole party with just the voices in our head given form.

Though I suspect 5.0 will probably
be about making Sid's loli a Dark Knight.
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>>385889638
FF15 MP closed beta in 2 days!
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>>385881274
And are you part of those top kills and do you always run with highly specialized groups?
>>
>SCH is overpowered for well over 2 years
>Gets deservedly nerfed
>SCH mains bitch at the top of their lungs they aren't OP demigods anymore
>Get buffed back up after 2 weeks
>Have to hear about how awful it was for SCH mains for the rest of eternity now

Is there really a worse fanbase?
>>
Not since I turned 25.
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>>385889785
SMN. It's amusing that one base pet class is singlehandedly responsible for all of the cancer
>>
>>385884090
Welcome to start of expansion stats for casters. It's the same shit in WoW. Low stats because of squishing makes most casters and classes that rely heavily on crits feel shitty.
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>>385889695
Put it in a PVP only mode.
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>>385889785
SMN.
Fuck that fanbase
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>>385889785
Didn't the exact same thing happen with WAR?
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>>385884683
Things like skill speed makes a huge difference and having too much actively fucks up the timing of when we want to apply cooldowns and also what opener to use among other stuff. It's also things like using 3 sens on a midare when you can begin on a new combo and have hagakure's cooldown to be ready before you have to use the third move and waste a sen. Things like that.
I wouldn't really say it's super hard though. But that's no mmo class.
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>>385887142
I am glad that Arakawa Under the Bridge lives on thanks to this reaction image.
>>
>do expert roulette
>DPS barely keeping ahead of WHM
Another expansion, another set of brainless DPS who don't know what basic AoE rotations are.
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>>385881523
>I'm playing a dead game
good for you
>>
>>385889428
It's like before and after my sister started running and working out seriously.
>>
>disenchanted with mmos for years
>hear ffxiv is pretty damn good
>fine I'll try it
>literal days into the story and still weeks to go
>however everyone agrees that the end-game is short and not worth your time investment

Well fuck. I don't really want to dump hundreds of hours into this thing if the carrot is hollow. Why does this keep happening? I just want a great game to play, but everything is either a modern mmo with a focus on story and little care for an actual end-game, or it's some dudebro $60+ game that people play for 1 week then never again, or it's some early access pile of shit that people dive onto for a few weeks then leave to die after people get their fill.

Why does this shit keep happening!?
>>
Why does drg play such ass? Keeping BoTD up sucks and it seems like I lose it every time that is a phase change. Nin, sam, and mnk have something to keep up their buffs but not drg.

Also drg feels slow as fuck to play.
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>>385889638
>holy shit the raids are the same from HW
>The ENTIRE expansion is copy paste wtf????
Are we playing the same game?
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>>385889695
Elemental damage/resistance is only fun if the all of following applies:

>appropriate gear can be farmed or is otherwise not on a lockout
>Fire damage isn't just ice damage but red; ice damage isn't just fire damage but blue, etc
>resistances aren't just there to pad out the length of the content but to promote experimenting with finding a good job comp for a fight
>your fights aren't just a 8-11 minute single fight
>jobs have a good selection to attacks of some or most element

Otherwise it's shit and can fuck off. which is pretty much all the time.
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>>385889871
The pet class always has the biggest complainers. That and Paladins no matter which game it is.
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>>385889780
>>385889780
does it matter? BLM requires high-level autism to even function in V4S, let alone rank. RDM can exceed that level of performance just by dickrolling the keyboard.

BLM needs less MP punishing and more shit like triple cast. The whole job needs a rework and less rotation juggling.
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>Lyse will never sit on your face.

Why even live?
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>>385890304
Blame the kinds of people that think endless buff upkeep somehow makes mmo classes more fun and challenging to play.
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>>385890296
You can do side shit like crafting, minigames, pvp and just fuck around in your home.
Take your time and enjoy the ride.
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>>385890304
How are you fucking up BOTD after they did everything they could short of perma-BOTD to simplify it from 3.0's strict timings?
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>>385890304
>Keeping BoTD up sucks and it seems like I lose it every time that is a phase change
Just a failure of their job design in stormblood unfortunately. Some jobs came out of the revamp being much more fun to play (like bard especially, and the two new jobs), some like mch and drg got the short end of the stick.
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>>385890380
BLM is fine the way it is, RDM is just too much of a faceroll.
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>>385890304
>press this 1-2-3-4 without any deviation
>weave your ogcds every week when they finally come back up
>oh and you're enochian'd by mechanics
How the FUCK does anyone have fun with this floorhugger
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>>385890380
BLM has been like that since HW though. Know the fight in and out or get fucked on the dps charts. Did you forget?
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so with wolf marks / pvp i just pick any vendor i like for glamor? i dont think any of it has relevant meaning.
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>>385890035
WAR mains don't tend to be as arrogant or as annoying as SCH mains do, though. They still have pretty bad egos, but while WAR was also hit pretty hard, the complaints about it were pretty reasonable.

You can look on reddit and the OF to see just how fucking awful the SCH bitching was.
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>>385890420
>You can do side shit like crafting, minigames, pvp and just fuck around in your home.
This is the point where anyone playing a game should just do something else. MMO's players are a different breed. Bored? Well I couldn't possibly log out, no, I'll just be bored in the thing making me bored. Why bother doing literally anything else I'll just be bored there too might as well be bored here.

It's really an insidious addiction for many people.
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>>385890380
>MP punishing
You mean it needs cast windows that's at least a bit looser than Khloe's pussy. Even UI phase can be tight as FUCK now
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>>385890550
>WAR mains not arrogant

Did you already forget the two years of Fell Cleave shitposting we just went through?
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>>385889712
I imagine they will stop with that story style for DRK, it would get a bit old if they kept doing it. Could end up with 5.0 being about delivering justice in only the way a Dark Knight can, and since you are likely the most powerful Dark Knight around, you would be the one in charge.
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I've been leveling a monk since I haven't fucked about with a DPS anything in MMOs in a long while, I actually like the combat style but oh boy did it make me remember why I didn't like playing DPS in general. If you're a healer and some fuckhead eats an AOE to the face you can correct for that/make a note to let the dumbass die the next time it happens. If you're a tank and the healer has a tendency to get too focused on his netflix episodes when he should be healing you can pull less mobs. But if you're a DPS and someone feels like letting out their inner retard then you just buckle up for the ride 'cause there isn't shit you can do. This wouldn't even be that bad if I didn't have to wait near 20 minutes to get into a low level 4-man.
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>>385890630
dude what the fuck you just seriously fucked my brain. That's exactly my thought process. Am I addicted to a japanese time sink? Can I be saved?
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>all those people shitting on RDM for being braindead

Sh-shut up, I waited years for this job!
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>>385889654
(You) deserve it.
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>>385890642
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>>385890435
Drg is strict as fuck. It has four positions I need to do. I have to constantly move and that makes me waste a second off my timer. I get fucked by phase changes and bosses that force me to move so I can't finish my combo to keep up BoTD such as that gay final boss in Sirensea that makes me move while I'm about to finish my combo and then bam that movement attack.

>>385890497
>>385890402

I hope they change it because drg is just not fun and I get really punish for not keeping BoTD up while every other melee has it easy to keep up their buff.

>>385890504
I sure as fuck don't. It doesn't help that the job feels slow as fuck to play.
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>>385876971
I got suspended and have no idea why
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>>385891074
Probably asked some poor soul to actually put some effort in.
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>>385891074
did you say mean things in chat? Not joking even gamefaqs level disses are treated like hate crimes.
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>>385890724
Not what I said, retard. I said they weren't as arrogant as SCH mains, not that they weren't arrogant. Of course they were, all the memes about Fell Meme/Meme Cleave were fucking irritating as shit, but SCHs take faggotry to a whole new level.
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Activated a key for the base game today. Any server recommendations? East US is my location.
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>>385891074
They don't tell you why you get suspended?
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>>385890948
RDM also breaks low level content, Dualcast at level one is so fucking stupid at low levels, I pity any sprout tanks who have to put up with trying to keep hate with one of these faggots minigunning spells everywhere
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>>385890948
>Sprout tank
>Name is something like Kirito Uchiha
>Can't keep him alive, never touches cooldowns, DPS stance
>He asks how he'd doing
>Straight up ask if he's trolling
>Get vote kicked

These people actually exist...
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>>385891280
Free trial up to level 35.
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>>385883513
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>>385890630
This was literally me for years in WoW. I'm glad I barely have time for games anymore. It was a shit time in my life and honestly all those wasted hours I don't even remember 98% of them. I don't even know why I'm playing this game right now. It's not like I'll ever finish the story within the next year with how often I get to play. Maybe I'm hanging on to old habits. Matter of fact I know I am. I'm going to uninstall now. I think I'm done with this shit.
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>>385891342
Well, instead of being an asshole right away, you should tell him to use tank stance and that his defensive CDs are useful. See if he improves.
Don't insult him for his shit name or playing until you be the final boss so it's too late to kick you.
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>>385888927
Pull faster then, we don't need a ready check every 2 minutes followed by a 24 second count down
Besides I'm a nin and diverting all my aggro to you anyway, get in position
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I miss my best friend /v/, Fuck Lyse, she had the chance to develop as a person and understand the tragedy behind the Zenos.
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>>385891493
We didn't get past two pulls. Also healer queues so so what if I get kicked.
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How do Lala tanks work?
How do Lala monks work?
How does literally anything Lala make even a slight degree of sense?
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>>385888927
quit being a bitch and pull more then
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Seriously FUCK this little cunt
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>>385891586
He was too good and too pure for this sinful world.
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>>385891663
Uh, aether.
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>>385891663
Augmenting your strength with aether manipulation.
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>>385891663
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>>385891663
Aether gives us 99 percent of the power for the things that we do, so a Lala hopped up on Aether will kill the fuck out of a Roe who isn't.
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>>385891586
The tragedy was that they stopped making his choice blend of leave-in conditioner and he lost the will to live.
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DRK here, In what should I be spending my mana during my rotation?
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>>385891746
>>385891719
>>385891750
One day they're going to figure out that if they just pump enough Aether into us the WoL will explode.
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>>385891704
>>385891586
He's fucking retarded.
He found the strongest being he's ever come across, and been defeated by it. Anyone who's taken a second to listen to the tales of the Warrior of Light knows the WoL is going to continue on fighting even stronger things than Shinryu. Zenos could have sook even greater pleasure, along with the opportunity to become stronger, by staying alive.
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>>385891704
I wouldn't say "good" or "pure", but he was certainly more interesting than any of the good guys.

SE needs to stop making the villains more interesting than the Scions/Alliance or else they'll always have players naturally sympathise with the Garleans.
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>>385890304
Try pre sb, it was barely worth using on trash
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>>385891842
That's not what happens when you get filled with a shitload of aether, anon.
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This game is really comfy, and I made a few friends playing it.
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>>385891934
I still don't know what happened to him.
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>>385891876
He knew he was a dead man since he'd lost the city and had just lost a contest of strength against the WoL. Better to die at the height of ecstasy than languish in prison, waiting to die. I can't blame him since we're going to see just how merciful and enlightened the Eorzean Alliance is with how they treat Fordola.
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>>385889871
>>385889925
>The "ACN classes are teh woryst amirite guys?? xD" meme again

Do you guys ever get bored of shitposting? Everything that SMN bitches about is justified. We always get cucked the hardest. And unlike every other class we'll call out the bullshit. Stormblood was the first time someone got fucked even more than us (sorry MCH).
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>>385892026
All the aether in the air at Carteneau combined with the prayers of all of Eorzea hoping he was going to save them and turned him into Phoenix.
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>play ffxiv
>literally all I wanted to do was get to the point where I got that sweet green wing/horn summoner armor set
>get it at 50
>lose all will to play

Is it weird to have such a niche reason for playing? I saw the armor as far back as ARR and always wanted it. Took until Stormborn for me to actually play enough to get to it. Finally got it, took some screenshots and uninstalled. I'm a weird dude.
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If you wanna play with /v/ faggots(why would you) ZR is an FC on Ultros.
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Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Early Pulling Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Buy A SSD Like Nigga Stop Playing On A Toaster Haha
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>>385892026
something something deus ex machina
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>>385892043
muh egi glamours, muh big summons
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>>385891934
The revelation that Echo users can bodyjack Primals opens up a lot of possibilities. Waiting on the 7.0 finale where WoL goes full Asura the Destructor vs a planet sized Zodiark assisted by fully repowered Midgardsomr, and the QTE has you blocking Supernova or else Hydaelyn gets blown up.

>>385892043
Oh horseshit. You fucks spent YEARS complaining about not having any "real" summons and being a DoT class, you finally got your wish and now you fuckers still aren't happy. Fuck off already.
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>>385892085
And just when he was going to let all the aether dissipate back into the world, Bahamut seized him and used his energy to slowly heal itself. Thus we had to fight and kill his warped form in T12 before we could face Bahamut itself in T13.
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>>385892128
what if i wanna watch the cutscene
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>>385892087
You don't want to keep playing so you can keep glamoring that armor and learn to summon Bahamut.
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>>385892117
Those are /vg/ faggots though, and we told you stop using these threads as a recruitment base every time you have a mass exodus of members
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>>385892036
10 bucks she summons a primal.
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>>385884292
he isn't even a good player. I don't know why the hell the novice network tolerates him.
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>>385892268
I thought /vg/ was aether
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>>385892240
>supernova
>not Darkja
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>>385891227
There are a bunch of warrior players who believe the current tank balance is worse than it was across HW. That alone nets them the trophy in my mind.
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>>385892283
he gives free shit to sprouts so thats why they suck his dick. but if you're a mentor then his wall of text macros are annoying.
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>>385891493
You must be a very special snowflake if you consider that what he did makes him an asshole.
He didn't straight up insult him or anything.

>>385891614
All it takes to votekick is for one other player to agree to the kick. So if he queued with a friend it was bound to happen, not your fault.
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>>385892240
>>385892338
>XII's Zodiark summon animation has him hatching from an egg
>XIV's Zodiark is the moon
I can't wait for the moon to crack open.
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>>385892272
I see her killing Yotsuyu for some reason.
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>>385886157
Fray's always been my favorite just because he voices how much bullshit everyone is full of.
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>>385892036
>Fordola

Oh boy can't wait for them to try and make me feel sorry for this cunt. Bet she ends up killing Lyse's cat lesbian or something.

>>385892338
>implying they're gonna pass up that fanservice opportunity
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>>385892249
General rules for watching the cutscene:

1) DF group with randoms: do it, but be prepared to annoy people because of this
2) Pre-assembled party with the intent of getting you a clear: skip it, don't waste other's time if they're going out of their way to help you
3) level 50 MSQ dungeons: your call, but you must choose between getting dragged along at light speed or watching them all and missing every fight
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>>385892268

Bud I don't know anyone in ZR that goes on /vg/ but okay.
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>>385892494
That'd probably mess up a lot of the tides and shit.
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>>385892257
nah, didn't care at all about that stuff. Just wanted to get that armor. I can't imagine playing months of one game again. I did too much of that in my old WoW days. I was already 2 days shy of 1 month of playing Stormborn. That was almost my limit anyway so timing was good.

I don't know how people play years of one game. Crazy.
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>>385892036
Fordola is going to become an Ascian. There is a lot of a foreshadowing from her such as that line about "may I live a thousand years" and the only way she is going to live that long to see the ruin of Ala Mhigo is becoming an Ascian.
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>>385891912
>Try their damnedest to make someone an unsympathetic purely black hearted monsters
>Drop this line
Was this intended?
Or did they fuck up badly in just making someone being evil.

>>385892508
I was going to say "isn't she dead?" But you know what they say about not finding the body.
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>>385892514
YOU SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH MANGO PINEAPPLE WILL NEVER DIE
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>>385892476
>new tank with a stupid name does stupid newbie things
>asks for feedback and advice
>healer just calls him a shitter and doesn't even try to explain how the tank can do his job better

Yeah, no, that's being an asshole. The tank is retarded and bad but if you're going to insult them do it after they ignore your advice.
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>>385891152
>>385891187
>>385891309
I called and asked and they said "only a GM can tell you why you were suspended"

How can I contact one without being able to log in
Sick meme, right?
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>>385887817
Source on your picture?
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>>385892639
An edgy autist finding someone his twisted mind considers a friend doesn't make him any less evil.
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Is the blackest night skill as fun as everyone says it is?
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>>385892549
You are new as fuck
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>>385892649
Mango is new best cat, when the Day of the Spay happens she should be spared.
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>>385892639
SE has done a piss job in general of reminding us The Empire is supposed to be evil
>Nero is just a troll
>Yotsuyu pissed for legit reasons
>Zenos just wanted a friend
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>>385892698
A few boards up.
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>>385892639
I found him to be unlikable and creepy when he said that, so good on SE I guess. He wasn't entirely detestable though. Something about that pure dedication to your heart's desire is hard to hate, even if it led him to be a crazy asshole.
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>>385891704
>muh joy
No.
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>>385892804
>these obviously evil characters have motivations
>that means they're not evil

Grow up.
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Just beat the story Ifrit fight. Where did the group of three other adventurers come from? Why does no one acknowledge them?
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>>385892268
t don't know anything about zr
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>>385892761
His actions are undoubtably very evil, however, adding in with the later scene that implies his mental state isn't entirely his fault makes it hard to keep seeing him as pure evil.
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>>385880202
I take it you haven't seen a 70 BLM
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>>385892975
Either people trapped in the cave with you, or people you scouted out after leaving through the secret underwater tunnel the Flame troop shows you.
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>>385892975
Your allies in the fight? That's one of those things that SE leaves vague since there's no good answer for it in the lore or the story. Make up a reason that suits you and it'll be just as valid as anyone else's theory.
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>>385880202
*Samurai spinning noises intensifies*
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>>385892975
They are your good friends from the Adventurer's guild, and thankfully also have the Echo so they can actually come help you in battles unlike those lazy Scions.
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>>385893154
Wonder if our friends are secretly upset we get all the credit for the shit we've done and they're never around for the celebrations and rewards.
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>>385892983
t. Someone that can't even t. right
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>>385892804
The empire isn't evil. It's just a different form of of government that works for some people. Just like Gridania who are a bunch of tree huggers and scared of some elements work for the cucks, Limsa who are a bunch of murderers and rapists for the degenerates, Ul'dah who are a bunch of Jews and poorfags for the jews and the poorfags and the cucks. Each person is different and works for that person.

Just like how Garlemald works for people who value law and order and virtues works for those people.
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>>385892784
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How do people dress their characters up in bathing suits?
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>>385893154
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>>385892948
>implying garleans are evil
>all garleans want to do is bring civilization to eorzea and quench the primal threat

playable garlean master race when
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>>385893371
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>>385891816
dark passenger
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>>385893265
By that point they're probably stuffing their pockets full of whatever's left around for offerings or crystals before peacing out.
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>>385893364
Either by equipping them or by using Glamour Prisms to make the real gear they're wearing look like slutwear.
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>>385893265
I go by the theory all adventurers are mega narcissists and from their perspective they are the only person that matters and everyone else is just there to acknowledge him, except for the other adventurers who are just as pitifully selfish.
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>>385893364
If I'm going to tank as a Au Ra girl, I'm going to stare at my exposed butt while I play.
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>>385893371
Alphinaud is a fag.
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>O3S clear party
>group reach enrage multiple time
>SCH start crying about dps not being high enough
>SCH himself is sitting at 400 dps
JUST
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>WAR lvl 60 quest
>3 huge roes beige thrown around by a small aura girl
>Mfw
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>>385893486
Zooming in kind of close, aren't you?
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>>385893443
the classic "take everything not nailed down as a reward" tactic of adventuring.
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>>385892804
I mean, Nero isn't really a villain. Dude just has an unquenchable boner for technology and will work for whoever the fuck lets him tinker with cool shit. He does his job if it involves putting on armor and killing spies, but he's really just in it for the machinery. He is even able to put aside his hatred/jealousy of Cid and work for him because Cid has access to cool shit for him to play with.

Gaius was misguided but overall had his heart in the right place, Eula wasn't inherently evil but felt compelled to honor her brother's name, Thordan is honestly the closest to tyrannical evil I feel the game has thrown at us. Dude wanted to solve a millennium old problem, which is fine. But then when the solution is given to him in the form of Deus-Ex-WoL, he still just goes off the deep end and tries to become a god.
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Now that the dust uas settled, red mage or samurai?
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>>385893545
SB War quests were damn fun.
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>>385893371
>Suddenly start imagining myself and Alphinaud having genuine sexual experiences together
Fuck you Square Enix.
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>>385893623
>Eula wasn't inherently evil but felt compelled to honor her brother's name
Eula was totally fucking batshit crazy even before she was tempered. Whether or not that makes her evil is arguable, but she's still clearly a villain with barely logical motives.
>Thordan is honestly the closest to tyrannical evil I feel the game has thrown at us
If you notice, Thordan only wanted to become a God King after he'd summoned the primal Thordan into himself. Basically, he got tempered. Ysayle went through a similar process during your fight with her but won out against the primal Shiva's influence.
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>>385890380
O4S lines up pretty well with BLM cooldowns desu. There's nothing in that fight that really holds them back.

You have triple/swift for every emptiness, grand cross delta, and delta attack, you have between the lines for delta attack and grand cross delta. And that's... it to be honest, everything else in Neo is pretty much a turret fight. He's untargetable for half of grand cross alpha, and all of grand cross omega. He's untargetable during going to light and darkness spots because of a teleport (and you'll have swiftcast up anyways for the dodge afterwards).

>>385890642
They received a buff to f4/b4 cast time in 4.05 that pretty much eliminates that rotational tightness.
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>>385893630
SAM if you want to hit 6k dps
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>>385893545
>no option to forsake eorzea to cuck gorge by spending the rest of your life having wild warrior inner beast sex with digiorno
shit game desu
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I made a new character for erp and just trying some stuff out on Siren and man it's dead as hell.
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>>385880652
>tfw BLM rotation changes like every 5 levels
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>>385893738
>implying that's not literally the only thing he's good for
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How do you read FFlogs stats? What do the percentiles even mean?
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>>385893738
Absolutely nothing wrong with that. Alphy is cute, and he actually tries to get better so he can help you, like how he goes through his own version of Sohr Khai and helps you save Estinien.
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>>385893908
>Dorgono: If only I could take you to the Azime Steppe, I'd... I have to go.
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>>385894093
I'm tell you fags, the WoL fucks every person that crosses their paths. And all that aether make pregnancy a guarantee.
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>>385893858
>Eula was totally fucking batshit crazy even before she was tempered.
Yeah I'm just saying she had a reason to her madness. They all have some sort of reason to it that makes sense, Thordan just having the least reason as the story progressed.

>If you notice, Thordan only wanted to become a God King after he'd summoned the primal Thordan into himself.
You gonna try to say he summoned the God King way earlier than the in game showed? Because the first time we see him do that is right at the end of HW, though it's not unthinkable to imagine he did so earlier considering the Knights Twelve doing it at his direction.

Really I'm just saying that we have good reasons to fight and kill the people we do, and fight against the Empire. But the Empire clearly isn't some monolithic evil for the sake of evil entity, and none of its leaders are comically 'I enjoy killing children' - even Zenos just wouldn't give a shit about kids, which is part of why his occupations were so terrible, there was no direction from the top as to how far was too far. The grunts in the Empire are more simple evil than any of the characters we actually talk to.
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>>385893876
What in the fuck are you queuing for, Coil?
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>>385893908
>>385894161
>implying WoL will ever love again
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>>385893964
the higher the percentile, the better.
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>>385894238
>You gonna try to say he summoned the God King way earlier than the in game showed?
No, he was totally in his normal head up until the end of Heavensward when we saw him summon it. All he wanted to do until that point was get the power to fuck Nidhogg and the Ascians. Then he summoned King Thordan in Azys Lla and suddenly wanted to rule the world.
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>Curious Gorge: No more than the horn-mad cow unable to control her inner beast. How about when this is over I show you my inner beast and─
Oh Gorge...
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>>385894329
Yeah but what does it actually mean?
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>Level up doing a worse MSQ than HW
>Do shitty dungeons along the way with nothing new or interesting
>Hit max
>Do Susano and Lakshmi EX (easy)
>Clear O1-4
>Clear O1-4

Fucking devoid of content. There's absolutely nothing to do at end game now.
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Just started playing recently and I've got my bard to 47. This shit feels braindead. I'm just running the same rotation over and over again. What's a fun way to play or a class to play?
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>>385893964
Percentiles are how many people are below you, so to speak. 99% means that your parse is in the top 1% of logs uploaded, making it better than 99% of other people's parses.

And unless you're aiming to be world's best or simply a really really good player who can take on the Savage content, it's not worth bothering about. In general just strive to be the least awful person and you'll do fine in most of the content in the game.
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>>385894430
100th = You're literally above everyone, you're a fucking king
30th = You're trash
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>>385894336
We killed the shit out of Nidhogg so far before that, and how does he react to the news? Imprison my bastard son, frame the heretics for trying to burn the city down, and attempt to kill the Warrior of Light. These are all pretty dipshit moves clearly motivated by wanting to be a tyrant because he's afraid of losing his power.
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>>385893396
>crack open Silvertear, releasing the requisite Aether necessary to permit Summonings in Eorzea
>drive more beastmen to summoming with their genocide campaigns
>hey let's drop Dalamud on Eorzea, indiscriminantly wiping out a whole continent because there are summonings there
>oh whoops there was a Primal
in that lol
>oh hey look more tech from that civilaztion that almost killed us all twice
>let's keep tryinf to reverse engineer that shit nothing could go wrong

Garleans are shit
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>>385879770

Better or worse than grinding garuda hard or brayflox longstop hard until you lose the will to live? I've done both of those several times
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>hit Ruby Sea
>switch out Alphy for Ali
>RELIEVED that I no longer have to listen to him babble for eight paragraphs on the proper procedure to make toast
>Ali spend literally ALL of her time complaining
>Constantly
>ABOUT LITERALLY FUCKING EVERYTHING
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>>385894507
BRD gets to be a lot more fun and complicated past 50. You'll have a ton of shit to manage as you get through harder and harder fights. None of the jobs are exactly exciting before 50, and many don't feel complete until 70, so if you want to be juggling a lot of stuff but not be in melee range you may as well stick with BRD since MCH is a chore to level (and is UP right now in a bad way).
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>>385894575
The truth couldn't come out at that point, because Ishgard still needed to recover from a thousand year war and the famine that came around because of Bahamut fucking the weather. You saw how a civil war almost broke out, and the only reason it didn't is because Nidhogg showed back up at the right time to unite everyone in their hatred of him. He also still needed to kill the Ascians.
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>tfw you leveled all your crafting ans gathering classes 1-63 mainly using gc turn in and dreading to do all the quests
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>>385894662
They aren't twins for nothing
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>>385894662
its 10/10 writing there, its just like travelling with a real woman.
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>>385894752
I am so fucking glad they made the SB quest for DoH and DoL not a fucking pain in the ass to do
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>>385894662
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>>385878836

In general I'd recommend using collective unconscious when you're expecting a big unavoidable raid wide hit thats plainly telegraphed, so the mitigation/regen can shine.

Specifically for the last boss of vault, he does a large hit right after you kill the flame orbs. Prep it a couple seconds before the last dies to give your group time to get in, and wait for the regen to reset before you cancel it. The hot is very powerful, and it'll help you on that fight.
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>>385892896
>Ikesei

Nope
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>>385894752
How do you even do GC turn in? Why would you want to make specific items every day for GC turn in when you can just make the same shit for 5 levels via levequests?
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>>385894752
Was in this situation as well. Now well past that point, but yeah it can be a pain in the ass.
Job quests are pretty good EXP. One thing I would advise though would be to look up all the items you'll be turning in and craft/buy them in advance before you start catching up on the quests.
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>>385894662
In a perfect world your traveling companions would be Fray and Haurchefant and the twins would only show up for orgies.

Sadly this is not that world.
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>>385894507
Everything is pretty gimped until the 60-70 range, SE went overboard with the skill pruning and the levelling experience has turned into a total mess.

Bard picks up significantly later in, but if you want to try something more fleshed out, give Samurai a try. You can unlock it in Ul'dah once you reach level 50.
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>>385894712
I think Aymeric summed up spacepope's motivations pretty well: he just had no faith in his subjects and saw them as bumbling sheep that needed to be lead around by a lie. To a point that's correct, but the guy clearly was the essence of a wannabe dictator. I know best, the citizens can't be trusted with the truth. And then when offered some magical bullshit power to become an immortal god king, he leapt at it, even when the very reason for doing so left him.

>He also still needed to kill the Ascians.
Yeah the WoL clearly needs a hand there, the time you see him in ARF he just witnessed you beat two of them within an inch of their life, then murder one of them entirely.
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>>385895046
You should have protected his smile.
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>>385894934
I just go by the items from the Mb every day if they are there for a reasonable price. I am just lazy I guess.
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>>385882728

Samurai limits you to mostly edo looking stuff atm until you get Genji/genta, but three good gear sets if you want more of a heavier look are:

Vicar helmet and body armor (pic related) from the vault. You can solo unsync it to get it at 70. I did it as DRG with i313 or so.
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>>385881180
Baut, tbqh.
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>>385895046
Oh that'd be so cool to see Fray talk to you time to time if you went DRK for SB.
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>>385895482

Ishgardian cyclas from some Idyllshire vendor is good too. Same vicar helmet, the pants I forget the name but it's a 60-70 piece I think from the Market Board. It gives you a nice little mail skirt that will look like it's your under-hauberk.

Then for Stormblood gear there's the Marid Leather.
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Hey subtle non-deleted ff14 thread, how the fuck do i use the level 70 ninja skill? it disappears most the fucking time I use it and the rest I get one mudra off the little fagrabbit shits on my head
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>Red Mages
>99% chance of being male miqote
>Last name is Tia
>Pretend class is deep and complex
>Always glamour AF armor
>Get mad when BLMs ask for utility
>Loot every chest in POTD
>Use emoticons constantly
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Got my 4S clear on Saturday. Unsubbed and got 3 days left. Just in the fucking nic of time. See you guys in October when 4.1 hits.
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>>385895487
Holy shit I didn't even think of him, that's clearly the best answer.
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>Barrage
>Straighter Shot falls off
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA LITERALLY WORSE THAN LAPSING FOUL
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>>385895616

PotD is a competitive mode.
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>>385895603
Continue casting your mudra. You cast one mudra, then hit the 2nd one like a combo, cast it, then hit the 3rd one and cast it. If you're going back to start over on your ninja runes you're doin it wrong bub
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>Time to get poundin'!
Anybody else think that the bickering is just a red herring and that gerolt pounds the fuck out of Ardashir's boipussy everyday?
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>replace MCH for SAM
>all of a sudden clear O3s

What did they mean by this?
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>>385896180
I'd believe it. Rowena probably caused Gerolt to swear off women entirely, but he still needs to tend to his desires.
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>>385896335
Rowena is one of the most evil, vile females in this game, far worse than Yotsuyu and Fordola, yet she keeps getting away with it!
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>>385896335
When will we get to murder that jewess?
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>>385896278
>Pick up almost 1k DPS by trading out a MCH for a SAM
>this naturally makes or breaks a clear

SE pls, stop making me feel bad for wanting to play with gadgets and pew pew.
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>>385896278
SAM has no RNG
MCH is all about RNG

oh and destroying your turret is a DPS loss
oh and flamethrower is a dps loss
oh and having to manage your heat is a dps loss
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>>385896180
I thought Arashir was a girl for the longest time until halfway through the anima line someone referred to them as male, so you bet your sweet ass Gerolt is smashing that when he's not smashing metal.
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>>385896483
Blowing up your turret and overheating at the right times can actually be DPS gains, but only by 5% at most (usually around 3%) since you get punished for doing so. They really fucked MCH hard in SB, so hard that it makes me wonder if the guys balancing it had a vendetta against the job.
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Who 340 weapon here?
Dalamud Red dye on Lost Allagan Katana looks like the Xenoblade sort of.
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>bought creation chestpiece two days ago
>beat a2s yesterday before reset and got the tomestone and the ointment with lucky rolls
>mfw I just realized how badly I fucked up
holy FUCK
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>>385896620
>so hard that it makes me wonder if the guys balancing it had a vendetta against the job

I honestly wouldn't be surprised. MCH started out as the worst job in the game when it was released, got improved to "okay" thanks to wildfire burst, and now has come full circle back to ass-tier. At this point I just want the devs to scrap the class and start over. Maybe turn it into the "Magitek" job or something idk they just clearly don't know what the fuck they're doing with MCH. No other job has come close to getting dicked on as hard as MCH.
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>>385896620
Probably because Balthier had Fran and the dev team is internally destroying themselves whether to make Viera be all midlanders, or female highlanders with ears and high heels or have the option for both
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>>385896850
gunblade stance in 5.0, all skills change in this stance
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Will we ever get a shaman job? Also is it worth the time to become a Summoner?
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>>385896939
>>385896850
>>385896620
I fucking hate to say it but a gunblade type remake would be pretty fucking neat. shots generate heat, can expel heat with melee

but then red mages would get mad
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>>385893529
>fights are not designed with healer dps in mind
JUST indeed
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>>385888458
>pre-made party of 7 looking for a random dps for O2s
>nin joins
>aww hell yeah
>is doing less dps than the PLD
>we somehow clear it
>he gets all the loot

I fucking hate this shitter bonus.
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>>385897056
Summoner is fun to level up, but at 70 they lack DPS/burst and people bitching about bahamut.

But seriously it was fun as fuck to level up summoner when a tank pulls big
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>Ishgard housing never ever
>Congregation GC never ever
>Scholasticate quests continuation never ever
>spreading the Fury's word to Garlemald never fucking ever
>2nd date with Ayymeric never ever ever
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>>385895171
I think the reason people don't like the pope is the same reason why people none virtuous people hate Julius Caeaser, Adolf Hitler, and Donald Trump.

They hate law and order. They hate the very idea of community and if left to their devices would go around murdering, raping, stealing, and every other evil act. You know just like with the Ala Mnigger long before Gaius brought law and order to the savages of the Ala Mniggers.
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You know that SMN that always seems to specifically summon Bahamut at the location right in front of you so it blocks your screen?
That's me
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Ok Final Fags, which class is fun and yet challenging to play.
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>>385897204
Retard
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>>385896740
I don't get it. Upgrade's an upgrade.
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>>385897182
I didn't really want to leave Ishgard behind. I wanted to have reasons to go back, to check on people, and to see the changes that were put in motion at the end of 3.x. I know the dev team has to be focused on all the 4.x stuff now but I miss hanging out in Fortemps Manor, having heart-to-hearts with Aymeric, and feeling like I have a second home whenever I'm there. Now Aymeric's only going to show up with the other Alliance leaders and we won't get insights on how he and Ishgard are doing. ;_;
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>>385897353
none, once you do a few weeks of raids it will be like everything you have ever done before and you will want to move onto the next leaving everything you did behind.

End the cycle now
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>>385897353
MCH is the only challenging job but it sucks
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>>385897380

ugh, THIS

+1
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>>385897464
Is the challenging part getting taken to raids? Because playing it isn't particularly harder than other jobs

>>385897380
I think he was being sarcastic.
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>>385897380
It's ok, soon enough you'll have to work because Trump will take away your welfare and have to become a productive member of society.

You'll be a real human being instead of a useless eater.
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>mch is bad meme
i dont get it
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>>385897635
It is.
Those people are just awful.
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>>385897635
It's not unusable by any means, but it's very obviously worse than Bard in literally every aspect. Even if the worse is only 5% overall difference to your raid, why the hell would you take something that's just worse in every way when the players have the freedom to play Bard?
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lets get this shit started
>female au ra
>tranny
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>>385897540
I was getting at that Thordan isn't a bad guy, because it is all perception. The loyalist to Thordan didn't see him as a bad guy and not one of them betrayed him. Aymeric is just a bastard cuck who was raised by his beta mother so he turned out differently from Thordan.

So the betas saw Thordan as the bad guy while the alphas saw Thordan as the good guy.
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>>385897635
>samurai and bard make 3.7k not even paying attention maybe even fucking up their rotation
>mch goes ball to the wall and can barely hit their lowest parses
Yes anon nothing is wrong
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>>385897785
Really wish there was an option to blacklist every single au ra and sandslut player.
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>>385897972
>>385897741
what the hell happened to playing for fun
>raids are serious business gotta have an optimal meta reddit comp
not when this tier is baby fucking easy already, you literally only hit enrage if people die and get the 50% debuff
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>>385898187
>what the hell happened to playing for fun

That's what normal mode is fun. Savage is for being somewhat serious and actually trying. You sound like one of those trash faggots who go into ranked, does the worst on the team and then says "I don't play to win I play for fun :^)"

Hardly anyone has fun in this game anymore but due to a MMO addiction, lack of anything better and nothing else to do they continue to play
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>>385898187
You don't need a super minmax comp, but for whatever reason that's just how this community is. I play Machinist, trust me, I know about playing what you want to play.

But in Machinist's case, it's hard to even call it a minmax thing, it is just plain worse than Bard while being the same role. You are gonna take one of them; when one is obviously just super worse the choice becomes pretty obvious. I'm sure if you're in a cool static with people that aren't faggots they'll respect you wanting to play the job you enjoy, but if you're looking for a static, you're gonna have a rough time as a Machinist.
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>tfw going to leave my old sever behind and start back on an old character on a different data server
>drg is the only class i have leveled
>hear shit about it constantly

Should I pick up drg again? Any tips? I'm level 60.
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>>385898385
Raiding is kinda why I left the game, I also played MCH, even though I could fire up DRG at any time because it's so braindead. But statics just have ridiculous standards, I simply don't want to spend so much time meeting their standards. And staring at the PF is just a glorious waste of time.
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>>385898358
numbers are fun for me
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>>385898358
>>385898385
literally the only thing that matters is not being a mouth-breathing retard and causing wipes. wanting a "better" class on your comp is the equivalent of party finders having a 325 minimum ilvl for something trivial. a good player will always have a spot in a static.
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>>385897353
black mage. at least it's reasonably designed compared to mch
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>PLD actually feels complete
>DRK is like half a class now

feels pretty awful I want to edge out but I cant with only one real combo
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>Alchemist quest 60-70
They are taking in the story from 1.0 right? All those people seems to mention some events that's not in the current game
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>>385898187
Anon, extreme and savage modes are for expert players who give them something to do. if you just want to have fun and play whack a mole with 5% damage on your healer, stick to normal modes
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>>385898187
Why take MCH when BRD has the same valuable Role Skill actions but also brings more buffs and does more damage? It's no contest, really. As much as I love to play MCH I wouldn't take one over an equally skilled BRD.

SE fucked up and they probably won't fix it until 5.0, sadly. Can't use those limited dev resources to fix what they broke until they're done whatever it is they're currently doing.
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>>385898629
Bbbut anon, muh bloodspiller, muh tbn, so fun
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>>385897972
>play bard
>parse dead last because i have to prep the party while getting targeted by every mechanic in the book
it's ok to do worse than rdm and drg because i'm a support dps, right?
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>>385898629
Honestly, they should give DRK back Scourge as a combo ender like how PLD gets Goring Blade.
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>>385898612
And a worse bard would bring more to a party than a top tier Machinist. The Bard would literally have to be a mouth breathing retard to bring less to the table.

When you could succeed with a mediocre Bard, or need to find the best of the best Machinists when you're recruiting to accomplish the same thing, why would you give the spot to a Machinist when there's 5 Bards looking for the same spot? It's not about 'is this possible' it's literally just 'which is better'
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>o1-4n done for alt jobs
>o1-3s mode done for main job
>leveled monk, drg, nin, smn, pld, whm
>now just leveling jobs just to level jobs and empty out my inventory
>68 sam
>middle of doma
>overcome with an urge to get the fuck away
>leave group
>come back
>29 min debuff
>dunno what to do
>go run some fates
>feel calm
>chocobo bud
>some dude flies in
>we wipe it out
>another fate
>another dude swoops in
>more fates
>suddenly 12 people running around killing shit
>gained a level at some point
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>>385898660
What's stopping them from buffing MCH in 4.1?
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I just got back into the game and got my meme Dragoon to level 70. I want to go back and get all the crafting jobs to 50, which I've ignored.

Is it best to just dump gil into buying Levequest Turn-ins, buying mats to make them, or max DotL first?

I'm dumb.
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>>385898775
Because a mediocre bard is a mediocre player, and will probably cause many wipes and fuckups. You're not choosing between mediocre bard and good machinist solely for the dps, you're choosing between mediocre player and good player.
>b-but my marginal dps increase
So you expect everyone to be in full penta-melded crafted gear just cause? /v/ is admit to shitpost endlessly on class balance even though they were humiliated with what happened with monk
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>>385898943
Levequests is prob easiest. People sell kits for fairly cheap.
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>>385898943
Depends on how quickly you wanna level them.

If you're loaded with cash, the fastest way to do it is to just buy high quality items off the market board and turn them in for leves.

If not, it's usually cheaper to buy HQ mats from the board and make an HQ item yourself for a turn-in, and even cheaper if you gather most of the materials yourself. However, higher level items often require items from unspoiled nodes, which only spawn every 12 hours in-game. It's shit.
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>>385897785
>be catboy married to another catboy, who is also my real life hasubando
>our faces when people try to get us to ERP with them
>especially lalas who, without prompting, share their vast list of bizarre fetishes with one of us
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>>385898896
Just judging on what they did to BRD, MCH, and AST in the 3.x series they won't change the core mechanics causing problems, they'll just apply some band-aids until the next major balance cycle comes up again (probably when they're getting ready for 5.0). MCH might get potency buffs and come CD tweaks but the overheat/turret explosion punishments will remain, as well as the brain-dead nerf to heat gain. So MCH will be competitive again but it won't feel great.
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How the fuck do people craft and how hard would it be to catch up with zero gear, experience and starting from scratch at 60? I would just wanna make food.

>ARR
>Decide to try out crafting
>Fail HQ twice at 96%
>Get HQ off sub 10%
>Never touch it again
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>>385899079
>we're le gay btw xD
fags are even worse than women
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>>385899014
If I'm recruiting, I'm choosing between quantities I don't know in advance. I've got probably one machinist and 5-6 bards, and for all I know 6 of these 7 players are kinda shitty. Now if I were to have to pick one chances are I'd probably pick the Bard who seemed the least retarded.

Sure if I have a really, really good machinist and a Bard who regularly plays in danger puddles, yeah it's obvious who I'm gonna take. But that isn't the case, you're probably got two equally skilled players, and one of them plays a class that is just better in every respect. Gee I wonder which gets the spot.

>/v/ is admit to shitpost endlessly on class balance even though they were humiliated with what happened with monk
Yeah I actually wrote a simulator and determined Monk was just fucking fine before release. I was still annoyed about Riddle of Fire feeling like shit and messing up Demolish timing, but I was confident even with Samurai's damage Monk was still in a fine spot. Samurai ended up being a little higher than I simulated, but Monk was exactly where I thought it'd be.
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>>385898896
Because with MCH you cant.. change a few numbers to fix its problem. You have to revamp the whole motherfucking job. and if I remember right, them adding Rogue/Ninja back in 2.0 almost broke up the team or really stressed them the fuck out.

We've had shit jobs for entire xpacs before, like Paladin in HW. it was playable but god fucking damn it you wanted DRK/WAR damage for those fucking fights.

Outside of making my own little wish list in front of you like having Flamethrower cost 40 heat over its duration, or adding a DoT to Hot Shot for Improved Shots.
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>>385899079
I've only been solicited once in my 3+ years of playing. Maybe I just make an ugly cat boy? Or maybe since I don't play on Balmung I'm free from that kind of degeneracy.
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Bard is really easy to fuck up desu
It takes tunneling visioning to a whole different level
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>>385898758
reduce DP make Dark mind reduce all damage and give it a 3rd combo
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>>385899204
How else was I supposed to explain the situation, dingus? We don't bring it up in game unless someone else asks about it, which is practically never outside of curious new additions to the FC.
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>>385899273
I actually feel a little more hopeful about MCH than that - You could make Overheat buff damage by 20% and make Turret actions count towards Wildfire - suddenly you have incentive to actually use Overheat for Wildfire (beyond a marginal baby gain), and Turret Overdrive becomes a big bonus.

They could make it fun again simply tweaking numbers I think.
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>>385898530
I read around and read this thread and I guess not. I want to keep playing this game and I find it hard to stay interested, I can't find a job to main,its extremely hard to make friends in this game,I feel like an NPC in my FC and the average player im forced to queue with are awful to say the least.
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>You will never have a cute small Xaela fell in love with you
I'm jealous of George
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How do I find a group that doesn't die all the time in V2S? I swear this enrage timer is killing my sanity.
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>>385899306
Not on Balmung either. Could be that I'm on an EU server, beats me. All I know is lalas absolutely live up to the stereotype of being fucking weirdos.
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>>385899351
Shouldn't have brung it up at all.
What happens in your bedroom isn't anybody's business, so keep it there, shitdick.
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>>385899573
It was relevant to the post I replied to, you butthurt sissy.
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>>385899534
Go with a one-chest group since there will be people who have cleared in the party. After that you can join "duty completed" groups but PF is always and forever a gamble. Or luck out and find a static that doesn't suck too much.
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>>385899492
>She finally accept him
>HE REFUSE HER
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>>385899251
>two equally skilled players
this is just hyperbole
unless you're choosing from the cream of the crop players who all make your static times perfectly, it just doesnt happen. at that point you're just choosing the player you like more.
>even though /v/ insisted on this, I thought differently so my opinion is important
wow big deal, i figured out that skillspeed was going to broken on samurai before it came out too, guess that makes me more right than you
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>>385899623
Static might be the way to go, I've been wiping on that shit for 50+ hours now. Can probably do it with my eyes closed by now.
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>>385899453
My MCH is only 65 and I roadblocked the fun kinda. But after 64, overheating is bad, very very bad and it took me most of suishi to 65 to get a hang of not overheating but then random low level roulette where overheating was kinda ok for damage.

this punishment for slightly more damage is the most bullshit thing however

I hope they do shit where overheating

ah fuck it, im going back to bard
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>>385897204
reality is inherently chaotic and chaos is vital for growth.

societies obsessed with law and order stagnate and die because they try to achieve a static, unevolving society that inevitably gets outpaced by chaotic societies who eventually invent superior technology or come up with a novel solution to an existential threat.

p.s. china is going to automate their society and be the first ones to genetically modify human beings en masse and secure dominance while americucks waste resources trying to defend muh jobs and chase the immigration phantom
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>tfw lv. 56 RDM
>rotation is literally 6 buttons and a few melee spells
>do tons of DPS
What's it like in end-game?
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Is Bard the hardest class to play at top level now?
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>>385899798
>give damage mode that rewards you for waiting to use it, and devote the last skill you learn to it
>punishes you for using it by gimping your damage for 10s afterwards
>have a skill devoted entirely to bringing you back up to "fun damage time" again instead of just having the modified skills be the default ones once you apply the barrel
>never end up using the level 70 skill in most situations
>big fun buttons don't apply to Wildfire anyway, so what the fuck ever
>job feels like a shadow of its potential and is actively infuriating to play before you get Cooldown and Stabilizer

I just don't know, man. I'm not a dev or a designer but I can sure as fuck tell when there's some strange dissonance going on.
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>>385899963
Holy and Flare makes you feel like a fucking prancing faggot god who can call down 32k+ crits on a regular basis because 310-320 gear is all about DH and Crit and thanks to having a tank/healer for daily roulette for clusters you always have those big thicc dicc +40s on demand
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>>385899963
8 buttons and the same few melee spells, plus a raise if you need to save a bitch's ass.
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>>385899273
But you can fix MCH. Just buff potencies and replace the flamethrower with the aoe stun from pvp
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>>385900065
Machinist is the gunlance of FFXIV now
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>>385899650
Okay then I'll just pick the player who brings more to the table if I can't tell which one of them is better. Oh look it's Bard. And there's way more Bards around because Machinist is in a bad place, so the vast majority of the time it's going to be Bard. In some magical scenario where I only have the option between a good Machinist and a crappy Bard, sure I'll take the good Machinist.

>wow big deal
You're the one that tried to bring up 'well you were wrong about Monk before launch' - don't get on my case when I can definitively prove you wrong. I ain't gonna claim you made statements like 'SS was shit on Samurai' because I don't know shit about what you've said in the past.
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>>385899204
>not wanting a bro to bro it out in vidya
Who's the real fag anon?
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>>385899937
Capitalism is what is giving out all the those technology not war. War while it is a good thing should be done smartly and only when you need to thin out the garbage members of society.

That's why Hitler while under his rule Germany became prosperous and one of the greatest places to live.

And that is why law and order will always remain a good thing. The ones who hate law and order always turn to be the same ones that want to chimp out.
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>>385900143
Post hot bar
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>>385900147
Flamethrower's important as a resource-free AOE option for shitty dungeon runs though.
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>>385892639
I think it's funny that even the PC is pissed when he says that. They clearly did not like him at all.
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>>385900257
really made me think
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>>385900257
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>>385900202
oh im sorry i didnt know you represented the entirety of /v/ and /v/ actually thought monk was good all along, with samurai being in the hypothetical "cuck shed"
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>>385900308
The ctrl modifiers are actually bound to unique hotkeys on the side of my keyboard, I don't actually use CTRL for them.
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How to fix MCH:
You can overheat without punishment, but there is a point where you 'NEED' to use a super powered Cooldown attack
and add a dot to something like Hot Shot or Cooldown
flamethrower higher potency but 90-80-70-60-50 dropoffs for added targets
remove suicide turrets as a whole
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>>385900534
Thanks. Have you played O4S yet?
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Is spell speed still good for healers or is crit and det the new meta stat for them now?
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>>385900552
What about getting an upgraded wildfire while in overheat mode? Maybe 30% for 15 seconds
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>>385900505
What the fuck are you even trying to get at now? First you imply that I don't know what I'm talking about because I'm on /v/ - then that I am purporting to represent all of /v/. Do you not realize that you're talking to a singular person? That's generally what replying to a single post does.

Machinist is worse than Bard, thus, it gets taken less. That's the thing we were discussing, in case you forgot that too at some point.
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>>385900601
Stuck on O3S zoo + tethers phase atm and I'm acutally an AST main for my static, but RDM really shines in that fight from the videos I've seen.
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>>385899463
Then again the thought of not playing leaves me with a sense of emptiness and dread. Any good drg resources? This should keep me busy since I never rook melee seriously.
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