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Why does 6th gen emulation still suck filthy dong?

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Why does 6th gen emulation still suck filthy dong?
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>>385876351
Because you aren't helping.
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>>385876351
Dreamcast, Gamecube and PS2 emulation is excellent, what the FUCK are you talking about?
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GC emulation is great though, and it keeps improving: https://dolphin-emu.org/blog/2017/07/30/ubershaders/

PCSX2 devs are just lazy.
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>>385876976
unironically this. people like to complain but sometimes fixing a bug or a glitch is as simple as taking 5 minutes to make a ticket in their sourcecode page. devs don't hang out at 4chan, and even if they do, they don't take complaints unless it's in an 'official' bug report.
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>>385876351
i thought it was fine
it's a little heavy on the hacks though
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>>385877201
Some people believe bitching on 4chan will change the world.
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>>385876351
PCSX2, NullDC & DeMul had bad foundations, so either people have wasted time trying to polish the turd (PS2) or just restarting all together (Dreamcast)

The devs behind Dolphin made it with future specs in mind & didn't focus on hacks
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>>385877375
B-BUT WE ARE LEGION, MY OPINION DOES MATTER
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>>385877375
To be fair, it kinda got trump elected.
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>>385877572
>delusion
That's what /pol/tards like to think.
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NINJA GAIDEN WHEN
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>>385877704
>implying shitposting at the right time doesn't hold immense power
/mu/ killed a guy
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Xbox emulator when /v/?

no bone or 360. just xbox
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>>385877704
I said kind of. If you think /pol/ had zero influence on the election, you are out of touch.
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>>385878135
/pol/tards actually believe this
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>>385877572
Partially, anon. Magic can only help you, not do your work for you.
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>>385878160
to play literally what?
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Jak 3 runs fine though.
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>>385878160
Some madman is trying to tackle it alone. It's improving very slowly, but at least it's something.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fYaMc18apI
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>>385878272
I can't think of anything. Almost everything is available on PC as well.
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>>385878272

Metal Wolf Chaos
Blinx
Breakdown
Ninja Gaiden Black
Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2X
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>>385878272
see >>385878125
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>>385878564
Thanks, anon. Kinda relieved somebody is still working on it.
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>>385877184
To be fair, in the past few years PCSX2 got a little bit more organized and improvements started to show. But yeah, for the most part PCSX2 project was just a mess.
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>>385878272
All these games are only on Xbox

America's Army: Rise of a Soldier
Blinx: The Time Sweeper
Blinx 2: Masters of Time and Space
Breakdown
Crimson Skies: High Road to Revenge
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon 2: Summit Strike
Kingdom Under Fire: Heroes
Kingdom Under Fire: The Crusaders
MechAssault
MechAssault 2
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Critical Hour
Brute Force
Unreal Championship 2: The Liandri Conflict
Dungeons & Dragons: Heroes
Metal Wolf Chaos
om Clancy's Rainbow Six 3: Black Arrow

What are you fucking 12?
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Wtf are you talking about, ive had little to no problems with dolphin and pcsx2. They both run great outside a few particular games.
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No good games.
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>>385879542
>Blinx 2: Masters of Time and Space
I didn't even know there was a second game. The first one was pretty good.
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>>385879837
A lot of games are still buggy and run like shit unless you have beast CPU on PCSX2.
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>>385880097
Some games like MGS2 can't run at full speed even if you have the best CPU in the world. The game actually runs fine if you've got a really powerful CPU, but the cutscenes will always drop frames like crazy no matter how good your CPU is.
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>>385877184
It depends, most games still run really buggy and choppy, but Timesplitters FP works great for me right now
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>>385879542
all of those games are terrible knock offs of better games you can play elsewhere and I can't even believe you're honestly adding fps games on a console to bolster your sad little list. Please get some better taste before making your next comment.
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>>385880495
This is true because I have Intel Core i7 7700K 4.20GHz and can still not run 24 the game. lol
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>>385880495
It's because of frameskipping, MGS2 used it heavily in cutscenes & some parts of the game

But since PCSX2 can't emulate frameskipping, it still tries to run MGS2 at 60fps all times when in truth the game was running about 20fps in those times with frameskipping on, meaning you got to pretty much emulate an already super demanding game 3x over
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>>385880641
Also remember to look at the actual emulation speed and not the framerate.
The PCSX2 will try to run at the same speed as the console (unless you're using hacks), so if the game has slowdowns in the console version, in the emulator it will be the same thing.
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>>385880593
Kingdom under fire is fucking fantastic and nothing else really hits that niche.

On topic ps2 emulation has gotten a lot better recently to the point that I'm not sure what all the bitching is about.
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>>385881187
True but I tried every damn setting in the PCSX2 to make the game run not in slow mode.
If you can get the gaming running normal plz tell me. haha
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>>385881280

Far as I can tell, it's mostly toasterfags bitching that their AMD hobobuilds aren't running SotC at 4k120fps. I've been using PCSX2 for the last 6 years on an i5 2500k and only ever encountered a single game that didn't work that I wanted to play.
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>>385876351
... have you played ps2 games? they've aged like shit and look even worse. ps3 emulation is coming along which is also when 3d actually became good.
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>>385877126
he's talking about resolution scaling
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>>385881425
Yeah I'm on a toaster and recently emulated VP2 which pushed the ps2 really hard and it's great other than one small bug near the beginning.
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>>385881425
What a super computer it must take to render gigantic empty spaces and slow moving cement mixers.
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>>385881034
>But since PCSX2 can't emulate frameskipping
Oh yeah, I read an article about why is that some time ago. I really hate when the emulation speed is under 100% and the game goes literally in slow motion. Dropping frames would be a better option, like in most emulators.
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>>385881518
Gameplay you fucking idiot. I emulate old games for the gameplay. Snes ps1 and ps2 all had fantastic games and have workable emulation.
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>>385880097
Is there a list for this?
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>>385882032
https://dolphin-emu.org/compat/
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>>385881034
Unless PCSX2 implements frameskipping, it might be best to wait for RPCS3 to be able to fully emulate the HD Collection. Only issue is that version of MGS2 is very stripped down.
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>>385879542
I really want to play MechAssault again. I enjoyed it a lot as a kid.
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>>385881865
>snes, ps1, ps2

yeah they all have workable emulation, because theyre old and aged like spoiled milk that someone dropped a turd in. when you're done noobing around, at least look up ps3 emulation, where real gaming starts.
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>>385876351
Because you deserve it not being around to play em when they were available.
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>>385882492
>because theyre old and aged like spoiled milk
That's like your opinion.
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>>385882492
I hate underaged people so much. You don't deserve the vote.
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>>385882492

>at least look up ps3 emulation, where real gaming starts.

PS3 emulation started in 2006, right near the launch of the PS3. It was called Youtube.
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>>385878238
/pol/ literally changed the internet and the world believe it or not. The current political climate it's how it is because of it.
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what does your ps2 iso's library look like?
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>>385881187
>The PCSX2 will try to run at the same speed as the console (unless you're using hacks), so if the game has slowdowns in the console version, in the emulator it will be the same thing.
This isn't true, it only applies to certain games namely those with shitty vsync for 20fps. MGS3 and SOTC come to mind.

Most PS2 games aren't solid 30fps unlike they are via PCSX2. And you can OC the PS2's CPU in the emulator too to get past some 30fps locks. SOTC is an example of that.

>>385882325
Doesn't it have frameskipping? I don't even know what you guys are talking about though, can't you just OC?
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>>385882729
Nice reading comprehension, retard.
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>>385882856
I don't have one because I enjoyed all the games I ever wanted back when PS2 was still a thing.
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>>385882325
PCSX2 is just terribly optimized in general & needs a massive overhaul or a new emulator entirely

PS3 is so much more powerful than PS2 & Gen 1 i7's are emulating Demons Souls on an alpha version of RPCS3, yet would struggle with a lot of PS2 games on PCSX2
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>>385882991
i'm talking about the games fag
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Which emulators are absolutely 100% perfect, /v/?
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>>385882932
Enabling it breaks the games really bad
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>>385883114
ppsspp
dolphin (almost)
cemu (soon)
rpcs3 (soon)
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>>385883004
>PCSX2 is just terribly optimized in general & needs a massive overhaul or a new emulator entirely
It is not. Barely any games require power.

The fact you're implying RPCS3 runs Demons Souls better than PCSX2 runs games just shows how fucking retarded you are.
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>>385882817
lmfao man I hope you're being ironic
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>>385883056
--> >>385882991
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>>385882932
SOTC is an odd case & makes it a bitch to emulate, it purposely drops itself to 20fps because that's what the physics were coded for (to be less stressful on PS2's shitty CPU) outside of that it chugs under 30 & is fine

Bluepoint didn't know this & caps it at 30fps for the HD remaster, which broke the physics & made the game harder
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>>385883187
>ppsspp
Definitely not, plenty of games are pretty buggy without additional configuration.
>cemu
It's barely even started
>rpcs3
It's also barely even starter
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>>385883160
I don't even know what it does but it does say SOME games there. Can you tell me more about it? The hacks section say similar things but I've never seen any massive negative using them.
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>>385883257
so you played nothing ok then
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>>385883187
PPSSPP still doesn't run all PSP games good
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>>385883289
there no such thing as perfect emulation. get a hint you dunce
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>>385883303
I don't emulate, so I have nothing to say about my iso library. Sorry you missed out.
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>>385883114
Bsnes, even then not 100%, some of the timings are slightly different, but something only a super autistic speedrunner might notice if he looks for it, most likely he would be thrown off by the couple of extra frames of input lag before he could notice though
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>>385883414
>being this dense
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>>385883291
>The hacks section say similar things but I've never seen any massive negative using them
True, but in every game I tried to enable the frame skipping the game became unplayable with glitches and performance issues.
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>>385883271
>Bluepoint didn't know this & caps it at 30fps for the HD remaster, which broke the physics & made the game harder
No it's just based on the harder EU version.

You can either OC or speed SOTC up to make it more smooth, OC takes tons of CPU juice but speeding up gameplay isn't so bad.
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>>385883512
>Leaning back on calling me dumb because you don't like my answer
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>>385882856
Only Burnout Takedown and SMT3.
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>>385883414
>I don't emulate
What are you shitposting here then?
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>>385883627
-->>>385883512
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>>385883585
No it's not, the EU version thing is a lie people made up to defend Bluepoint, for some reason they have fanboys?

They fucked up with the 30fps cap
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>ywn emulate r&c properly
why live
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>>385883271
>Bluepoint didn't know this
Hahaha, are you pretending to be retarded?
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>>385883114
Real 100%: Higan, that's it.
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>>385883780
Runs fine now, PCSX2 has mip mapping now
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>>385883774
Here you go.
>>385883716
To go "haha you missed the PS2 age" and then ride it out.
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>>385882856
MGS3 Subsistence (finished snake eater on emulator, later bought HD collection on PS3)
Fight Night Round 3
Jak 3 (ran horrible, had to buy on PS3)
GTA SA (looking at files for modding purposes)
Spider-Man 2 (runs horrible, even on gamecube emu)

deleted ones:
DBZ budokai tenkaichi 3
SvR 2007
Sly 2 (finished, bought on PS3)
Sly 3 (game breaking bug, bought on PS3)
Harry potter 3 (can't be emulated on any system)
Ratchet 2 (ran horrible, still finished)
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>>385883776
>No it's not, the EU version thing is a lie people made up to defend Bluepoint, for some reason they have fanboys?
Next you'll tell me Okami HD is rendered internally at 4k.
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>>385883915
it's still heavy as fuck and I own a fucking toaster
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>>385883918
>haha you missed the PS2 age
But I did own a PS2, what's wrong with trying to emulate games I enjoyed as a teen?
I'm not going to set up dozens of retro consoles in my living room if I can just emulate them on my PC.
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>>385883716
he clearly has autism
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>>385883998
Source on your pics plz. Looks sexy.
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>>385884194
-> >>385883627
typical /v/
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>>385884267
>being in denial
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>>385879990
>Blinx
Is it true that everyone hated the blinx character? I didn't play the game.
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>>385884330
Here ya go.
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>>385884019
I'll look into this. Maybe. I own the PS2 original, black label. Played on all difficulties, never found a bug.
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>>385884394
you're beyond repair
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>>385882856
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>>385884468
Alright, here ya go.
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how good of a pc do i need to emulate ps2?
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>>385884583
Decent processor. High end i5 to high end i7 range. GPU can be whatever for the most part.
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>>385884723
You do want Nvidia though.
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>>385884583
Depends on the game.
You can emulate most JRPGs on a laptop i5.
Most demanding games like SotC you will neeed a desktop i5/i7.
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>>385884583
Depends on the games you want to play. I haven't used pcsx2 in a while but back when I had a phenom ii x4 I was able to play stuff like kingdom hearts 1/2 and persona 3/4 no problem but things like sotc and mgs2 ran like shit.
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>>385884891
>Most demanding games like SotC you will neeed a desktop i5/i7.
I emualted it full speed with a quad core AMD from 2009. Perhaps it's more demanding to run it now?
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>>385885083
>>385884902
>>385884891
not that anon but i have a meme pc with 7700k 1070 i think im good.
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>>385885083
Perhaps you're making shit up?
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>>385885083
>>385884902
I also emulated MGS3 at mostly full speed back then too.

>>385885214
Yeah you're good.

>>385885274
Picture evidence.
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>>385885308
How is that an evidence? I'm not seeing SotC running at full speed anywhere.
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>>385885626
It's a picture I took using a 2009 CPU. I wouldn't have finished the game several times through at anything lower than full speed because that would be unbearable. Same goes for SOTC. Actually it would basically be impossible to finish SOTC if you were below full speed, the game would be moving so slowly and it's already a slow game.
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>>385885880
>It's a picture I took using a 2009 CPU
And you can edit a file name in 2 seconds, evidence my ass.
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The kind of folks with the know-how to write this shit right the first time via reverse engineering to understand something are an extreme minority in the programming community, and those that do likely have jobs involving it instead of doing it for free or lolPatreon for some open-source project.
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>>385886186
Why would I lie? I've been saying this for years now to counter the bullshit people like you spread.
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>>385884207
Takato Yamamoto, phenomenal artist, has tons of excellent (often lewd) work. He also did 2 pieces of Raiden from MGS. I think his art hits me especially because I want to be a beautiful sexually liberated hapa female instagram model, but I'm settling for beautiful male
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>>385883918

>Emulating means you missed that era of gaming

I don't think so Tim
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>>385886186
EXIF data says he ain't lying, unless he went through the trouble of adjusting his system clock also.
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>>385887805
I thought about posting the date created thing in properties but it made more sense to me to approach him with a humane question. Of course he ignored it.
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>>385877704
He posts before making another "plumpf btfo" thread on /pol/.
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>>385887805
EXIF a shit.
You can edit the metadata of a file in two seconds too.
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>>385882817
/pol/ is literally dried semen these days though, all the magic is gone and what's left is aging stormniggers
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>>385890538
I check up on em every once in a while and can't picture any of the posters as anything else than edgy middle-class teenagers with limited life experience
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