Phantasy Star Online

It was actually good. A different take on the Diablo style run dungeons and get loot, and unlike most attempts in that era, this one didn't suck.

I still get the itch and go play PSO2 every couple months.

Great fun if you had 3 friends to play with.

I remember playing PSO Episodes 1 & 2 on Gamecube with my neighbros, staying over 2 nights in a row over the weekend with my bro to try and beat it over the weekend.

We were only able to clear Episode 1, but boy was it a ride getting to Dark Falz.

Yes it was great. Id play a remake. Dont care for PSO2. I liked PS0 as well.

It still astounds me just how good the game looks even today despite being an early 3D game with shitty models and low-res textures. The art design if nothing else really held up

Both

amazing for your first time, especially when playing through with friends. No wiki or anything made it an experience. Then you find your first rare and it really gets exciting

>>385870696
It's fucking sad to see how SEGA manages to butcher one of their best IPs with ep3 C.A.R.D. revolution, PSU and the forced anime bullshit with PSO2.

PSO was great for a lot of the reasons Dark Souls is held in such high regard now days.

Everyone is finding success by using the PSO formula (MonHun, Destiny, Borderlands) except fucking SEGA.


I am still waiting on a 3ds, vita or even fucking steam release for PSO.

>>385870696
It was really good at the time. It's aged now, but if you're feeling old school then it's nice to play. Also motherfucking 4 player splitscreen is still fun with friends, something that current gen doesn't do anymore.

>>385870696

I sank about 4000 hours into it and have multiple max level characters and mags.

I got beat up by my brother in 2001 because my dad told me it was okay to use my bro's credit card to get a 3 month subscription for it.

my brother asked me why the fuck a charge for 1200 yen was on his card lol.

anyway.

i had a great time with the game, love many classes, but RAmar is probably my favorite.

the game has the diablo syndrome of being deeply flawed and repetitive, but the quests / hunters guild helped a lot with making going through the same few tilesets more interesting.

of course, episode 2 added more areas, and then blue burst / pc release was probably the best thing that could ever happen to the game

anyway, it's like diablo but in 3rd person, slower, more annoying, has good coop before anything did anything like this really, and was the first MMO many people ever played.

i got it the same year i got my dreamcast.

i think it's a very hard game to go back and play now, especially when people are like, excited to go back and play it, it's very much a slow burn, like distilling whiskey and then drinking it later, there's no instant gratification really...

I remember when my best friend when I was 11 first came over and saw it, he rushed right up to the TV and said "COOL GRAPHICS! and not even 5 seconds later said "gay combat!"

and that really sums it up for PSO, and we knew it then, and we know it now.

imagine warframe or destiny except the combat is bad, and the combat is all you do.

somehow this was acceptable because the atmosphere and world was so magical.

but now? there are dozens if not hundreds of better games to play than PSO

>>385870696
Its pretty good

Fuck was it unstable though. I swear to God, like 4 of my characters over like 5 years got corrupted.

It was a blow each time

>>385870918
>>385872867
Stick to only 2 friends.

I tried playing it with friends about a year ago.

With 3 people, its great, runs perfectly. But add one more player and it becomes nearly unplayable. The framerate drops to shit.

Honestly I have no idea how we put up with it back in the day

>>385870696
What made PSO really fun to me was how your equipment could change your playstyle. Snow Queen allowed you to freeze enemies in a straight line giving your character some support ability, Double Saber had a TP regen ability when you hit enemies with your melee attacks which scaled incredibly well with Force casters, Charge Vulcans used the money in your inventory to launch a powerful attack, etc. MMOs should learn from PSO's item progression system.

Man, I remember the first time I fought Kireek and got the soul eater. It was magical.

It wasn't til years later that I learned that if you had online, you could make Kireek an ally for episode 2 quests.

>>385873398
I had the Xbox version and there was no lag with 4 players splitscreen. But I can imagine it getting laggy if you were on Gamecube or Dreamcast.

>>385873601
Yeah, dunno about xbox but it was the case on gamecube

>>385870696
it was good but the controls were never up to other games standards

>>385873294
Ah man, the game was definitely unstable. I remember it freezing so much when I played online. Lost so many items because of it.

One time my memory card got corrupted because it froze while it was saving when I went to a new area. Made me quit the game forever.

>>385870696
Sunk like 500 hours into the Gamecube version and another 600 hours on the Schthack BlueBurst private server. I had a level 124 Hunewearl in the Gamecube version and a level 132 Ramarl on PC. Had many great memories from the game, met lots of cool people on PSO-World forums we used to chat and party up in-game. Used to play from 8pm until the sun came up at 6am, it was a magical time in my youth.

I can't play the game again today though, the low level grind and section ID bullshit just drives me away. But if you played the game during it's prime then it was fucking amazing. This game single handily influenced many other games like Monster Hunter, Destiny, Warframe, and others.

It was good, very much so, even doing runs alone was fun and that's incredible compared to mmos nowadays.

>>385875051
personally I thought the game was boring solo. what made it fun to me was the online multiplayer (hence the name phantasy star online). symbol chats with other players and trading rare items with each other made is so exciting.

>>385870696

this game made me appreciate slow games

>>385870696
It was actually good. Good enough that people were willing to put up with all kinds of bullshit like freezing and save corruption to play it.

>>385873601

dreamcast didnt have splitscreen lol

that was added in the PSO 1&2 pack on GC/xHUEG

i still play blue burst on https://ephinea.pioneer2.net/

>>385870696
As Lil B the rapper would say, it's fucking CLASSIC.

It's a real damn shame they abandoned PSOs art style. It was really damn good. Beats the hell out of the otaku kawaii waifu shit they pull with PSO2

>>385875761
I was fine with freezing but save corruption is what killed the game for me. All those hours down the toilet with nothing to show for it. I think this is what caused the game to have a huge hacking problem. People lose their saves and go fuck it and begin hacking to max level with best equipment.

A friend of mine still plays it online on Dreamcast and makes videos weekly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAHYCxzZT50

Here's one from yesterday.

>>385875839
Every once in awhile I hop on ephineas sandbox mode and fuck around for a bit, good stuff. How is ephinea doing now a days? Haven't been on it in almost a year now.

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If a proper game ever came out that was just a updated PSO with multiplat it would sell like hot cakes. No one seems to want to do it though. It'd be like selling a multiplayer Dark Souls game. Shit would print money.

Seems western devs are to incompetent to even attempt it and eastern devs can't into online or PC.

>>385870696
I picked it back up a couple months ago. It aged a lot better than I figured it would.

>>385877104
I don't think it will be that successful. What made PSO so good was the aesthetic design, the vast and unique loot, and the way the music would seamlessly transition. Most devs don't pay attention to these type of things. They just chase after what's hot now like Overwatch and MOBA clones.

Overrated gameplay, like Crystal Chronicles. You need friends to make it bearable, but then it's a good romp.

I'll often listen to the OST, to get that feeling back.

>>385873187
your post is very hard to read

>>385870696
Mechanically?

Horrible. Dated. Archaic. Unfun because it's not responsive.

Nostalgically?

Incredible. World-shattering. Breakthrough.

Still worth playing?

Every now and again, why not?

>>385870696
who does the artwork for this?

>>385878290
man that probably cleans the bathrooms at club segas now

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>>385878290
>they abandoned this artstyle in favor of generic anime

Remember back then when choosing a class was a big thing?, Casts couldn't use disks AT ALL but they had traps and better stats, Forces were absolute shit at melee but had access to lv 30 spells, humans were jack of all trades all across the board...

man, I miss that.

>>385878290
pretty sure its the same guy from breath of fire

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>>385870696
it was nostalgia all right, but it was a good trip worth experiencing.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3vzsJyjTG8

>>385870696
It was actually fun, but I suspect it has not aged very well. If you have 3 friends to sit down and play with, it's still GOAT though.

>>385870696
Fantastic. Though Sega's actual backend execution has been hinky from the start.

>V1 online completely destroyed by one butthurt script kiddy releasing a few action replay codes
>NOL becomes an industry legend

>>385881008
that can't be right since he was with capcom from 1992 to 2011

>>385870696
More than a decade and a half later I still play it.

help

>>385880746
>Played HUCast
>No magic ability meant I got gud at reading/predicting enemies and using a variety of weapons
>Rekked shit with balls-out attack power, and more than once saved the day when everyone else got statused to death
>Continuously used as Fluid mule by everyone else
>Largely the only other Casts that competed with my desperate need for heals were gun meidos
>Everyone always forgets the freeze and confuse traps
Being a Cast in a world of squishies was fantastic. Would sink too much time into again.

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>>385880746
>Get gamecube version of the game
>Be FOmarl
>Tech damage is shit because lowest MST and no innate tech damage boosts except for grants and nothing relevant is weak to grants
>Other Forces can just use items to boost their support techs
>Third lowest ATP in game
>Second lowest ATA in game
>Lowest EVP in game
>Slower attack animations than everyone else for no reason

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Everything Phantasy Star is great. Except universe.

People shit on PSO2 for being weeb as fuck but look back. Phantasy Star has always been weeb as fuck.

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>>385882013
Good luck, my dude. I stopped playing around 2014 and shortly after that schthack wiped. I'm gonna miss all my stuff but atleast I found a PGF with a friend as my last memory. I'll cherish it forever.

>>385882708
you can't compare late 80s/early 90s weeb to modern weeb.

>>385870696
i wonder if my raspberry pi can run this. i never even thought about it.

>>385883250
Fucking this.

>>385883250
I agree.

>>385883347
>>385883250

They're just keeping up with the times. Accept moeshit anime already grandpa.

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>>385883250
>>385883347
>>385883556
We have finally passed denial and anger and are entering bargaining.

>>385870696
HUcast master race, enjoy lagging behind in deeps fucking RA/FAfags

>>385883690
FO*

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TODAY I WILL REMIND THEM

>>385878290
Akikazu Mizuno and Wataru Watanabe according to the artbook.

>>385883675
Nah. I'm still in anger.

>>385883582
Nah, I'm not accepting garbage.

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>>385883792
>mfw some faggot with a Double Cannon tells me he got it legit near me

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>>385873187
you seem to have lost your way.

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>>385883792

you are like a little fonewearl

watch this

The nostalgia is too condenced, it hurts.
what I wouldn't give to be 10 and ignorant of the world again.

>>385883690
HUcastfag here.
Fuck yourself. HUcast only works well with a well-rounded party. You are asking a lot of a party to go without an entire bar of heals, and asking them to take care of you all the time.

You have a job. You are good at it. You might even be one of the more noteworthy team members. But you can only do half of what you are doing because of everyone else changing your diapers for you.

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>>385882708
I think it's more the fact that literally 80% of the players play as girls and most of those are lolis. Last time I played it was just lolis running around with katanas. Really fun game but I'd only go back if I played exclusively with friends.

Fun fact: The katana class was literally called 'NEET class' in development, a player found out when digging through the game data. NEETs flipped out because all of them were katanafags with egg on their face. Good times.

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>>385884073
>tfw you actually got a lavis cannon legit
>wanted all three of the lavis weapons though so i got someone to hacked in two others and the stone needed to upgrade them for me
Greatest feeling

>>385884297
HUcast makes a 40 minute fight into 10 tops, fuck yourself traitorous faggot

how would you feel if someone remade PSO in unreal engine 4

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>>385884073
>Join game on DC version
>Level 100 guy with Sonic Knuckles and Chao mag and base level EVA
>"heal pls"

>>385884301
That's fucking great.

>>385870696
It was hella good my guy

>>385870696
I never did get to Ultimate. Never cleared Challenge mode either.

I had a lot of good memories playing this game on DC and on GCN. I wish SEGA would officially release PSO2 in the US. But, considering how long PSO2 has been happening I know it won't happen.

>>385884925
>that one retarded HUmar that didn't do anything except wait for shit to die so he could grab all the drops
>"heal pls"
>rare item drops and he gets it
>"lol"

>>385884301
Proof? Knowing some of the people I know who datamine that game, they would've laughed.

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>>385884301
Only class people play now it the new overpowered Dante in pso class aka Hero

https://youtu.be/KbmhwTidvwM

>>385884297
post your TA records

>>385885121
>make new class that does everything and does it as good as everyone else
why

>>385885121
That vid doesn't prove much, anyone can clear SH bosses that quickly.

That said, there are videos of heroes clearing stuff like the Deus Esca rematch solo.

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Symbol Chat was the tightest shit ever

>>385885373
Better actually, every casting class is weaker then hero, every ranged class save for a extremely well geared gunner (and even those kind of gunners are just in the competing territory now) is a weaker then hero and only Fighter, the class that was the original OP can compete with hero and even they don't have they flexibility and options that a hero does.

>>385885121

hard to believe people still claim that pso2 has good combat

animu spammy glitchfest tripe

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>>385885609
>You'll never see Prof. Frink or any of those other fags in those lobbies ever again

>>385885121
>>385885780
It's really fucking weird watching modern PSO2 videos. I played the game a little when it first was available, and dropped it once it started to have more anime crossover events than real content. It was never GOOD, but christ what a wretched thing it has become.

>>385885831
PSO Prof. Frink unfortunately took his own life many years ago. He was a good man.

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My first 'MMO' played it online a lot.

Had a ton of fun as a RAcast because I love robots and guns. Got a bit grindy, but my 12? year old self loved it to bits.

>>385870696
One of my favorite games. It's a little slow and very repetitive but it doesn't waste your time like a lot of other games do. The shops and mission select are very close by each other (although I guess they could be closer) and there isn't all that much reading to get through. There's a fair bit of text but it's not so intrusive either. The variety in classes, weapons, and spells is awesome and playing co-op is amazing. The graphics hold up surprisingly well. I mean, it's fucking Dreamcast but it has a unique aesthetic to it and the music, while not amazing, compliments it very well. It makes no sense to me why SEGA hasn't officially re-released this game; I'm sure they'd make their budget back and then some very quickly and I can't imagine that server costs would be that intensive for such a simple game.

>>385870696
It's fucking great I still play it.

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Sound track is great, listening to it right now as I paint my Infinity figs.

Loved the shit out of PSO

I couldn't get into PSU or PSO2. I think both of those games were inferior to PSO in every way.

PSO2 I hated the most as every area felt soulless. It was the same chunk hallways and box arenas arranged differently to give me the illusion of a new levels every game. I know PSO sort of function the same way, but it didn't feel as obvious.

>>385885780
PSO2 had good combat back when photon arts were just a simple attack. Once Over End broke the game they just started making animeshit PAs that go on and on. They had a really nice base combat system that they convoluted on purpose. PSO3 needs to happen to just wipe the slate clean,

>>385882968
what the fuck is that thing on the bottom

>>385886324
>Once Over End broke the game they just started making animeshit PAs that go on and on.

Funny because after Over End the best PAs were the ones with short animations and one of the best sword PAs in particular was Sacrifice Bite 0 which just buffed the fuck out of your normal attacks.

>>385886332

sci-fi launchpad mcquack

>>385884301
it's not like you couldn't make lolis in the original PSO. i made all my female characters lolis and i saw plenty of fellow lolis in lobbies and rooms. PSO has always attracted weebs/lolicons.

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>>385884301
Lazy people make lolis. People who give a shit spend all their time and money coordinating fashion.

>>385884809
i feel like they would get a C&D and it would be a massive waste of effort assuming they even had the willpower to stick with it (they don't). if there was an official one that didn't fuck with the gameplay/artstyle too hard that would be cool.

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>>385886872
I think the best ones are the guys pretending to be vehicles.

>>385885951
come on dude I didn't ask for these feelios

>>385885609
symbol chat was the 2000s twitch emotes

>>385887019
Cast are just god tier in general

>>385886985
sega hasn't c&d it yet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUPWxS3fcw4

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PSO2 sucks

I'm the guy with that one artbook that has been slowly scanning it. Sorry to you guys who sent me your e-mails a few weeks ago, I promise I'll finish scanning eventually.

Also I got a hold of both PSO novels, will be translating them, that's whats sort of been slowing down the scanning of the art book.

>>385870696
It was an amazing game at its time and was my version of WoW during childhood. To this day no games looting has captured me the way PSO's has, and I don't think it's nostalgia talking. PSO's weapons were unique and actually had personality. There were actually quite a few that would even go so far as to fundamentally change your combat style. For example, Frozen shooter was a rifle would allow you to freeze enemies in place, and was the only weapon that would do that.

Black King Bar was an amazing twin pole-arm weapon that would allow you to drastically reduce enemies hp with its special attack. Zanba was the Buster Sword and had a pretty awesome special that allowed you to sacrifice your HP to deal a lot of damage. Vjaya as well let you sacrifice large sums of your Meseta (gold) to deal an even more absurd amount of damage. It also had arguably THE coolest sword weapon in ANY game, the Dark Flow. Dark Flow was such an amazing weapon that it was banned from the official servers IIRC. It's special would allow you to, at low health, emit HUGE energy wave attacks from your sword swings.

The weapon and items in PSO were what made the game, it was so fun searching for unique gear in PSO's dynamic loot system. While no game's given me this type of joy with its gear system yet, I have high hopes for the upcoming Monster Hunter; that series has always reminded me the most of PSO.

>>385882708
>>385883582
>>385883675
I don't know about original Phantasy Star games, but PSO was never weeb, it was mysterious sci-fi fantasy with a very unique art-style. PSO2 is irredeemable weeb trash with combat that's nothing at all related to the original. It's fast-paced garbage. Monster Huntere games honestly have more of the PSO style of combat than PSO2 ever has.

PSO2 sold its soul to the Otaku-weeb audience and is nothing but a glorified dress-up simulator.

I never owned a Dreamcast, or a GameCube, or an Xbox, and I was a poorfag, so I didn't get to play this game until very recently, in 2015

It's pretty fun. I certainly loved the environment, music and overall aesthetic. Combat certainly doesn't seem like it has aged well but I was easily able to get used to it and play it with my more experienced friend, it's still fun.

>>385887632
>PSU animations

why

https://youtu.be/Ii9LbUTmWPo

>>385887632
that's unity, not unreal. also that run animation looks ripped straight out of the PSU games. is that just a placeholder or what?

>>385870696
GOAT game, have put many hundreds of hours into it over the years, mostly solo.

Recently dipped back into it through Gamecube emulation, preparing for my RAmar to get his ass kicked by Dark Falz on hard.

It was definitely good for its time.

>>385885121
I like how flashy it is but jesus christ that shit is so broken that it will get old fast. it's also a big slap in the face to people who leveled other classes.

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this game was good

PSO was fun but PSO2 didn't hold me the same way. It still has a similarly enjoyable aesthetic (it's kind of hard to find an MMO like PSO or PSO2, really) but I don't know I found it much harder to get into, even though the combat and stuff felt nice.

I'm not a fan of the cosmetic simulator bs either, I kind of liked when it wasn't just wife dressup, but that has little to do with me just not finding comfort in the game. Maybe I'm still nostalgic.

>>385888554
I mean the game is 5 years old at this point I'm sure Sega has got as much money out of people as they can and this is just the last legs of the game. You can't add any new classes after this thing unless you nerf it to shit

Is NA getting an English release of PSO2 or is that plan dead in the water?

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>>385887815
The title is "Phantasy Star Online: Light Inheritance" or something of the sort.

>>385889109

pso2.com still exists and still thinks the game is coming out soon in 2012.

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>>385889210

>>385887847
>PSO was never weeb

Holy delusional amerifat, PSO was a sea of gokus and sephiroths with DARK ENERGY KATANA

>>385889109
That plan has been dead, I believe.

>>385889545
There were weebs who liked PSO, but PSO itself never went out of its way to attract weebs. The story wasn't some generic shonenshit soap opera either, it was "where in the world is carmen sandiego ft. Red Ring Rico and Heathcliff Flowen." The worst it had were HUnewearls and FOnewearls, but even they actually looked far more respectable than the absurd waifubait in PSO2 and their millions of different cute dresses.

PSO2 weeb trash, PSO was a respectable game that actually had a soul.

>>385889840
So essentially this series went the way of Fire Emblem?

Or the other way around.

>>385889920
PSO2 went full #FE.

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>>385889840
How does PSO2 pander to weebs when they have to jump through so many hoops to give sega money? Are you confusing 'weebs' with modern anime fans?

Speaking of which, the Phantasy Star series has constantly catered to the anime demographic of their generation.

>>385889541
Sega has flat out told people it's not happening. PSO2 would not be successful in the outside of Japan. What kind of fucking mmo doles out their cosmetics with a mobile style Gacha system?

>>385889840
It had a Goku haircut and a dark energy katana. The story was about an old man and his loli waifu.With interspersed bits about a scientist in an animal suit and comedy relief Dr Montague and his maid robot waifu

everything else is your delusion

>>385890028
The fact Sega feels the need to put said hoops, and so many of them in the form of all the absurd dresses and loli themed clothing & accessories, not to mention all the constant anime crossovers, speaks volumes of how absolutely weeb PSO2 is. Fucking Hatsune Miku is featured in PSO2 with clothing and a cameo if I'm not mistaken. There's a goddamned Idolmaster who's a core part of one of the Episodes who doubles as some crazy Ninja Assassin.

PSO2 is shamelessly weeb, PSO just had that classic 90s anime style.

>>385890196
People didn't play those games they just look at old art and jerk off about being born in wrong generation

>>385888807
Wrong it was actually awesome

>>385890285
>PSO just had that classic 90s anime style.
Wouldn't that be considered the equivalent of 'weeb' in the 90s?

> the constant anime crossovers
Which nearly every Japanese online game does nowadays. They're just following the trend.

>>385890301
oh, it's "Anime was so much better in the 80's type but for even younger people? I get it

>>385890196
There's a difference between shoutouts to popular Japanese culture (Dragonball and Final Fantasy VII) and constant anime crossovers, tons of loli bait, and actual blatant waifus written into the actual story. Again, Hatsune Miku is one of the crossovers, that's about as soullessly weeb as it gets.

And Riku wasn't a loli as far as I remember, but a fully grown woman who went out to explore the dangerous planet Ragol, went in too deep and got absorbed by the Ancient evil Falz. Flowen as well was a military ex-hero who ran into Falz as well and felt regret about not being able to save Rico, who was his favorite pupil or something of the like. A simple story, not crazy space opera shonenshit that is PSO2.

>>385890509
It's not at all the same type of soulless weeb pandering seen in PSO2, which again consists of tons of waifu dressup, loli bait, fucking Hatsune Miku and an Idol who's a canon part of the story. PSO2 is the worst kind of weebshit.

>>385890717
>It's not at all the same type of soulless weeb pandering seen in PSO2, which again consists of tons of waifu dressup, loli bait, fucking Hatsune Miku and an Idol who's a canon part of the story. PSO2 is the worst kind of weebshit.

So it's not that PSO2 is pandering to weebs, it's that you hate what modern Japanese pop culture has become.

>>385890717
what a faggot

>>385890848
PSO never pandered to weebs or Otakus, the game focused entirely on itself and any weebs weebed out almost entirely of their own accord. They weren't given the tools to express their inner weeb. There wasn't a bunch of cute clothing that had absolutely nothing to do with the gameplay or atmosphere of the story, there was no loli pandering, and there were absolutely ZERO idols. The problem isn't what modern Japanese culture has become, the problem is that Sega felt the need to cash in as much as possible off of Otaku's and weebs instead of just focusing on the game itself to sell itself.

Again, PSO2 is nothing but weeb trash and a fancy dress-up simulator.

>>385890717
>Again, Hatsune Miku is one of the crossovers, that's about as soullessly weeb as it gets.
hatsune miku IS popular japanese culture you dumbfuck. she's not some obscure otaku anime character. for fuck's sake she was on david letterman's show. your attitude is basically "if it was around when i was kid and i liked it then it's good and doesn't count as weebshit, if it's new then it's weebshit"

>>385891243
Miku is an idol, and idols are about as weeb and Otaku as it gets. She just happens to be extremely popular, but that doesn't change the fact she's the token symbol of weebshit and Otaku pandering. Idols are about as degenerate as it gets as far as weebshit goes. PSO had absolutely none of that shit. PSO2 is entirely full of it and sells itself of it instead of just simply being a really good game.

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>mfw as a kid when the Ruins turned out to be a giant fucking prison
>see some of the 'unique' rooms that had a window looking over the vast ruins
>completely enthralled by the 'ancient evil' vibe

Feels bad, I'll never get to experience that kind of shit anymore.

>>385891407
you are misinformed. idols are comparable to pop stars in america. they are famous, attractive people that are adored by many, not just nerds. it's just otaku who take things "too far" and obsess over different idols or groups, hence the original meaning of the term otaku

>>385891747
Pop stars are equally degenerate in America as well, difference is that Japanese devs like Sega and many different anime studios decide to focus entirely on the Otakus who spend their money on said idols and other forms of weebshit, thus turning once respectable series like PSO into soulless abominations like PSO2.

>>385890717
An ex-hero turned teacher who falls in love with his underage pupil
Oh yeah, totally not anime dude, it's a seriously hardcore military western story for manly men

>>385891948
I don't recall anything stating her to be underage, but even then it's not at all pandering to Otaku's or weebs. Hell, their "romance" is hardly even explored in the actual game, which is just about finding out exactly what the hell happened to Rico and Flowen.

>>385870696

I got a RAmar named Dart to level 183 legitimately on PSO USA on Gamecube. Only abused the item duplication trick to restore my inventory if some cunt made me lose it from a disconnect.

I had a whole character dedicated to storing copies of my shit. This also helped when my friends lost their save files and needed to start from scratch.

Those were the days. I'd say the game was worth it. Nowadays though there's no real reason to revisit PSO1.

>>385870696
>tfw would spend my summers telepiping in and out to get that alt enemy to spawn so I could get that shot at a rare weapon
>my main was a Pinkal Hucast
>I didn't know anything about drops or their rates
>it was literally me and 2 friends that played this

Just fuck my shit up. Such a good game lost in the sands of time.

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>>385881008
>>385878290

looks like that. Why can't we have a show in that animation? Or pic related

>>385892287

Pinkal was a rare color on my server. I got some trades for level 30 techs for stuff you would not believe.

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>>385891946
>>385891747
Both of your arguments are so fucking inane I can't even tell you apart anymore. Just go back.

>>385889543
What's it about?

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>>385887019
PSO2 has its moments.

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Phantasy Star IV is for big men

>>385870696
probably nostalgia, I tried playing it on some private server and I couldn't get past the beginning forest area because it felt so slow and clunky to play

>>385870696
It was good. But PSU is the one I have way better memories with. Thats where all my nostalgia is basically. Every time I tried to play PSO on a private server I got a little bit into Ultimate and just never wanted to play again. PSU had so much more variety and things to do and see.

I played the hell out it on my gamecube online way back when. I was mostly HUmar and HUcast. with a bit of RAmar

>>385876429
Not that anon but I think that Ephinea is the way to go if you want to play PSO nowadays,the community is awesome and the server has a lot of improvements that take some of the shitty stuff away.
I think the anniversary event will start this week so it's a really good time to hop on.

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>>385870696
I'd still play it now if my saves didn't get corrupted over 5 times

>>385890028
Literally Ep4, the problem of anime crossovers and general influence is being blown out of proportion. Pso2 was not different from Pso1 until part 4. Problem with part for is not Idols and otaku pandering. What makes it soul less is that Pso2 abandons every that made phantasy star, phantasy star at ep4 to hook the mass appeal of newbies and normies in Japan, waifu bait is what keeps the original players from 1-3 still there there scratches and cosmetics but even they know with out them they'd have dropped it as soon as Ep4 hit.

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>>385894846
Now Episode 5 pretends 4 never happened and if full of this weird high fantasy nostalgiafag pandering. Who is this stuff for?

>>385895245
Is Alis actually in Episode 5?

>>385895245
What did they do to Alis...

>>385870696
it still holds up but if you liked this game you went hard since the rare drop box was basically a drug so most would be sick of it.

I played this game on and off for more than a decade im sick of it now but in a good way. Its still my favorite game and shows how important couch mp is for games.

>>385895287
Alis and Lutz are in. Seeing as the story takes place in a world created from the records of the universe, I'm wondering if we're going to loop all the way around to Phantasy Star 1.

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>>385895287
She's supposed to be
>>385895313
I don't know

>>385885107
for things like this HUmars have the worse reputation,they were the normie class

>>385873187
I would be angry at this post but 2 things saved me. You actually played it a bit which is cool and from the way you type you may be mentally challenged so I forgive you.

still fucking good after all these years

wish a modern game would emulate this style properly

>>385895245
Maybe the hacks writing this schlock believe that by pandering to a new demographic each new episode, they can get ALLLLLLLLL the demos. What a smart idea, just like not localizing the game ever, you know with Sega backing your game, you always make smart business decisions.

>>385895245
Nostolgia fags who've been wanting to see a return to classic Phantasy Star, but there vision too far outdated and because they pulled in a shit ton of newbies with Ep4 and all the marketing they did for it, in order to keep their interest and not make them feel lost they mixed it with a shit on of genetic anime fantasy and Sword art online aesthetics or apparently "Isekais" is what the term is for it is.

>>385885121
im so glad i quit this trash game holy fuck

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>>385873187
Well put, but try to type a whole paragraph next time please.

>>385895693
Demons' Souls sort of did.

>Reading PSO Ep3 lore
>Section IDs are used constantly monitor hunters at all times

>>385890151
Doesn't Tera do exactly that? Plus mobile games have a fairly decent profit margin even in the west, looking at translated games like Fire Emblem Heroes and Fate/Grand Order. Sega missed a chance to trailblaze that goldmine because they are too chickenshit to do anything risky. They deserve their low standing compared to the console companies that didn't fail miserably.

>>385892968
Just like every other American: I don't know. There's a single forum post about this on the pso-world forum from over a decade ago asking about it with no responses and that's the only mention of it online that I could find. I found it from translating the PSO: Episodes 1 & 2 Analytics art book (something I'm in the process of) because it mentions the two light novels (Light Inheritance & Dark Factor). They take place 5 years after the events of episode 1 or 2 and that's all I know so far.

I have one of the last copies in circulation and I'm probably the only person who gives a damn to translate them.

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>>385873187
>RAmar

Absolutely patrician opinion. Old toilet bowl armor will always be my favorite.

>i think it's a very hard game to go back and play now,
Not so patrician. There's nothing really like it, and the games that try fail monstrously (PSO2, PSU).

>>385896289
Did you ever play the expansion for PSU? It fixed a lot of the things that were wrong about the base game and made it a lot more like PSO.

>>385896347
Can't say I did. That said, the aesthetic of the game was so off I can't ever really see myself getting into it. And in terms of gameplay, Photon Arts were a mistake.

>>385896213
God speed Anon. I'll be here to read them.

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>>385896132
>gold mine
I seriously don't understand how you equate mobage to full fledged online games. One is just translating a few menus, the other is a massive fucking undertaking, especially with how text heavy PSO2 is/was. It also has a shitton of voice acting, which they'd blow a metric shitton of money on making an awful dub. And on top of that, westerners would just bitch endlessly about the EQ system.

>>385891646
I'm lucky. I get that feeling almost any time a game or movie does the "buried thing best left forgotten" trope.

>>385896447
They fix photon arts in Phantasy Star Portable 2 and Phantasy Star Portable 2 Infinity so they level up like techs did in PSO (i.e. you have to find higher level versions on discs, you don't level them by using them constantly) and can't be spammed like they could in PSU.

>>385896213
How about that. Well I'd certainly enjoy giving them a read whenever you finish them. Any idea how canon they are?

>>385896521
EQ system is the definition of some Japanese ass Japanese that doesn't translate. People want to run shit on their own time not log on at 3pm to do an EQ

>>385896635
I never owned a PSP so those games I missed out on. They did seem to have a decent grip on balancing Photon Arts by the time PS0 rolled around, but PSO2 goes right back to making everything revolve around them so I dunno what lessons were unlearned or if the Japanese audience just really likes PA spam.

>>385896638
The novel series itself was supported by sonic team but I'm not sure if it is in fact canon, it honestly probably isn't but Sakai and PSOs writers say it's a good read . Keep in mind though that the Phantasy Star series canon is a mess to begin with.

>>385896698
EQs are nice because I don't have to deal with looking for a group to do big multiplayer content.

EQs fucking suck because I don't want to be beholden to a fucking raid schedule to grind for my good gear.

>>385896521
Your perception of mobage is quite dated. F/GO in particular is a fucking retarded encyclopedia of text to translate, it's quite a bit longer than the original Fate/Stay Night, which was well over 60 hours of reading through everything. And like MMOs the story and events are ongoing, so it just grows. Even here with its relative niche status, it typically brings in anywhere from 40k-$50k a day, I imagine you can hire a team of translators and have plenty of profit remain when you're pulling those numbers. JP version is making well over 2 million a day also, so they could even just throw some change to the NA side to try to nurture a market in the west if they could manage anything equivalent to that.

The game devolving into a broken piece of shit, however, is another story. Sega is incredibly bad at making anything of quality anymore not called Yakuza, or letting Atlus do their own thing, so perhaps it was better for them not to localize simply because it was only a matter of time for those zipperheaded fuck ups to do what they do best.

>>385885951
what the hell man
f

>>385897092
I wonder how much PSO2 makes a day?

They do hold festivals for it and stuff, there must be at least 100,000 people playing.

>>385897092
2012 was the worst time for Sega to announce the localization of anything especially since that was right after they got rid of all their localization teams. This was also the Sega era of fuck anything Japanese

>Played PSO on Gamecube originally just for the Tails Chao it offered
>Fell in love with it, got friends hooked too
>Multiplayer at my house on Saturdays, fuck yeah
>Fast forward a few years, play the PC version with folks from /vg/, Blue Burst included
>Fun, but didn't last long because BB sucked. Only one good thing; Saint Million fight.
>Even further in the future, PSO2 comes out
>Play with more folks from /vg/, it's fun as shit
>Take a break for a month or two
>Come back, missed a dozen updates
>Can't catch up quickly because it's grindy as shit, but I do end up catching up
>Not many folks playing on the ship anymore, have to start over entirely to play with them because they moved for whatever dumb reason
>Now I'm 3 episodes behind and have no fucking clue what's going on, so I just dropped it
>Friend brought a Gamecube and PSO over a few months ago, and we played it with the same glee we did as kids

PSO was definitely a good game, and it isn't nostalgia goggles. I just wish PSO2 was a proper sequel instead of some sort of waifu simulator with loot pinata enemies.

>>385897467
Is it really a waifu simulator if you have to make the waifu?

Best private server?

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PSO:BB was a fucking blast. Sunk many hours into it back in the days. Wish there was a 3DS version I could play on the go (having a good data plan for tethering helps), but 3DS is now dying anyway.

I see a lot of people shitting on PSO2, but is it really that bad of a game?

>>385897738
There's Ephinea and Ultima.
Ultima just gives you extra exp.

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>>385898214
>is it really that bad of a game?
I enjoyed it, got a little tired of the EQ grinding for better gear and the brick wall that is gear affixing, so I stopped for a couple of months.

I'm thinking of getting back into the game to try the Hero class since it looks fun, but it'll eventually lead to the endgame grind once again and that's what's kind of stopping me.

>>385896635
PSP is garbage compared to PSU. Nice try reddit/psow

>>385898568
Phantasy Star Portable is but Phantasy Star Portable 2/Infinity is decent. It improves upon PSU in some ways and makes it a great portable experience. I'll admit though the online mode of PSU was great but just lacking in content in the US.

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The comfiest.

>>385898697
>>385898697
They are good for a portable/PSP experience yes thats true. And some changes like the fortune system and grinding were improved. But the hubs/lobbies, music, gameplay, story, and obviously online interactions took a major hit.

I play PSP2 Infinity because PSU clementine isnt up and the game died in september 2012. But the second PSUC is finished, I will never touch any PSP game again. They are substitutes, not replacements

>>385870696
>Game has awful controls and the entire series shits on anybody who isn't ranged attack master race

Nostalgia's one hell of a drug, my man.

>>385898795
>picked this game up ages ago
>didn't know how to connect online, or if you even could
>finally know now, but there's probably 0 people even bothering to host
Feels bad, the story was comfy/10 to go through at least.

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>>385898795
Umm sweetie... that's not PSU

>>385898928
Trust me I feel the same way.

>>385898214
Depends. I've personally played every online title in the series and have enjoyed all of them, though some more than others. I still play PSO2 and it has a lot of cool stuff going for it but content gets stale really fast at endgame. You'll really only find groups for emergency quests or whatever the current event quest is, and once events end you're pretty much just going to be soloing old content for whatever it is you're trying to accomplish. Best weapons are tied to EQ's through a collection file system, so farming for gear is only possible when Sega decides to schedule a time for you to do so. If you can't play during the hour they have the quest up? Too bad wait until the next scheduled EQ. The whole system makes it so running old content that is always active and available at any time completely pointless so no one does it. The only exceptions are the 2-3 month periods where they will have an Event quest to celebrate some sort of anniversary, which is an always active quest during the event period that can contain some fairly rewarding gear or fast EXP. The one right now for this event is limited to 4 man groups like classic PSO instead of the usual 12 man MPA's they've been doing ever since this game's inception to try to bring back some of the "challenge" of classic PSO but it's too little too late, limited to the event, and the new Hero class is steamrolling this content anyway.

tl'dr, play this game in bursts during big content updates if you're interested. Probably gonna put it on the shelf again myself once I get the Hero class to 80. I'd honestly really like to go back to PSU, even if it did suffer similar endgame content problems, running events with six friends all in a party together was really fun, especially back on the Japanese servers when they put in the content from the PSP games.

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>FIVE FUCKING YEARS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bm1ZPgxStE4

>Tried for months to get double cannon in PSO2
>locked behind some bullshit EQ that only spawns like 1-2 times a week and half the time I was at work

Such total horseshit

>>385900080
They planned a 10 year lifespan for PSO2. I have no idea how they're going to make it last another 5 years without some major overhaul.

>>385900284
As an owner of a Double Cannon, you're not missing anything. It's shit now. Get a Zenesis and call it a day.

>>385899064
Goodness I miss this game...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIdm-bOha18

I loved the fireworks lobby theme every summer. And i loved when they had the sonic lobbies with the sonic heroes theme. I would hunt those rare sonic jaggos for twin bearclaw boards to make. PSU was such a magical game, whether you had the full game or the demo. I wish i could go back...

>>385900542
I don't care, it's my favorite PSO weapon, even managed to grind for it in one of the shitty PSP games and it took ages. I wanted it so bad but noooo fuck you PSO2

I'm legitimately shocked we haven't gotten a PSO Ep I + II plus HD remake yet considering online games are stabler than back in Dreamcast/Gamecube era

>>385900609
Give it about a year when they make 13* able to be sold in player shops and buy one. 14* won't remain as rare as they are forever if all the other rarity tiers are anything to go by.

Or buy the 7* Double Cannon / Licht for an unreasonable amount of meseta and never use it because we can't craft past 11* damage for some reason yet.

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>>385882708
my only legit complain about PSO2 is that I can't make a proper female CAST (or Android, whatever) like pic related, every face looks like from a generic moeshit
Every game after PSO I make a male and fem CAST (Zero is the only game I used a Human) but in PSO2 I only have a male CAST

Thanks god there's a Virtual ON crossover though

>>385887019
I once saw a perfect Scopedog imitation int he lobby.

It was fantastic.

PSP2I never ever

>>385893267
Alys makes me big, man.

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>>385901308
>my only legit complain about PSO2 is that I can't make a proper female CAST (or Android, whatever) like pic related, every face looks like from a generic moeshit

Cast Heads (and as such, faces like your pic) are cosmetic items, so you can't get them in the character creator right away.

>>385895541
>>385895245
Google is failing me hard-fucking-core here, man. What the hell is the PS1 cast doing in PSO2? Are these the originals or just parallel versions of them like everything else?

>Seeing as the story takes place in a world created from the records of the universe

Explain.

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>>385870696
Really simplistic combat system but strangely addictive. Even PSO2 can't compete for some reason. I just wan an HD remaster of PSO EP12&4.

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>>385902797
Short of it is, you attempt to defeat the Profound Darkness with Mother's power, but it rips a hole in the fabric of reality.

The Profound Darkness and Mother are failed clones of Xion, a being connected with the Akashic Record, which contains all the information of the universe.

Mother's Ether power gives form to thought, so smashing all of this bullshit together combines this power with "the records of the universe", creating the fantasy world beyond the black hole you ripped open. It's apparently the record of some destroyed civilization in the past, but it's been fucked with thanks to you scattering the PD across it so now the various kingdoms are developing 'evil' magic with the fragments.

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A-Anyone want to play PSU?

Most of the worst bugs were fixed so it's actually playable now

>>385903213
>The record of some destroyed civilization.
>Alis and Lutz are there.
Eeeeeeh, Bob Dole don't like this...

>>385904113
Luther is there, too. It's probably a mishmash of all sorts of shit.

>>385904189
Yeah but Luther was always fucking with the Records.
Alis and Lutz's presence seems to imply the original Algol got aced, something I'm very much not OK with.

>>385904287
Or that they simply existed or will exist at some point in the history of the universe. The record contains everything that is, has been, or will be.

>>385904531
Aside from the player, that is. Xion tells you that the record didn't predict your own meddling with the timeline.

>>385904531
I thought it said explicitly this was all stuff in the past?

Well, I hope you're right.

tfw i'm a big weeb otaku neet etc but i dont want it in my sacred PSO. it's like watching your daughter grow up to be a slut

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>>385904764
It's not in 'your' PSO, it's in PSO2, and you're probably not going to touch that anyway.

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>>385870696

Old-school PSO is better today than it ever was during Sega's official run of the game.

>smaller, tighter-knit community of ~200 players who are mostly veterans of the old games
>community very welcoming to newbies and will show you the ropes/get you up to speed as fast as you can learn
>discord voice chat if that's your thing
>if you play on a non-shitty server you don't have to deal with hax or bullshit
>no retarded casuals shitting up games because they won't stop using non-viable weapons because "muh samurai sword"
>no frozen/blue screen of death
>no memory card corruption since player data is stored server-side
>competent devs working on the game who started off just as players back in the DC/GC days
>graphics STILL hold up due to muh art style meme
>gameplay STILL sucks but that's part of what makes PSO fun in the first place

I'm not going to shill any specific server, but this is truly the "golden age" of PSO as we know it.

>>385906253
Yeah I just wish they could improve it in the way the original team envisioned. Like add truly randomized levels instead of just rearranging doors in premade maps.