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Guild Wars 2:Path of Fire

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What did you think of it?
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>>385862040
I don't know yet but deadeye looks pretty cool for pve at least my thief is gonna have some fun. I mean who cares about mounts if they can't fly?
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>>385862040
If Palawa Joko is just randomly killed off like Lazarus was I will never play this game again.
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on the off chance this thread survives what items should I flip for profit in this shit game
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>>385862040
>no cantha
>no capes
>no dervish
>no paragon
>no spears
>no scythes
no buy
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>>385862691
ectos and mystic coins are the eternal profit. any time they drop, buy them. because theyre guaranteed to go back up
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>No Dervish or Paragon Specialisation.

You had one job!
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>>385863040
If they're not going to make new classes they could've at least made specializations for grenth's sake

But, would Dervish be warrior, thief, ranger? Necromancer?
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>>385862585
>standing upright
>edgy scars
>random tribal outfit
>le retro ps1 era polycount
LOL, the retard who designed that shit must've had a grudge against the charr.
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Do holosmith lose their toolbelts?
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>>385862040
>Concept art always looks fantastic
>Game always looks like shit
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>>385862471
there are flying mounts, the glider thing and griffon thing
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Do the boots look fine? Should I pick the ninja star boots or a different ones instead?
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>>385862040
nothing in it looks remotely compelling to warrant buying it
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>>385863743
A bit big, perhaps.
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>>385863743
Boots and pants don't match the top color wise imo.
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>>385863939
My cloth charr looks better
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>>385862040

Looks like shit.
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>>385863040
Ritualist and Dervish skills for scattered to other classes. The Scourge's Sand Shades are Spirits, Mesmers got Sand Shards for instance.
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>STILL NEED TO PURCHASE HEART OF THORNS FOR $20
THE FUCKING NERVES ON THESE JEWS
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>>385863430
reminder
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>>385862040

>less content than Heart of Thrones, an already shitty expansion

At least it's not full-price, but the fact remains that it's just shittier shit.
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>>385863430
2/10 bait
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>>385864136
You don't
You can buy Path of Fire immediately without HoT

Also, to the anon in the last thread asking about the Mesmer: they're fun but they've got the highest skill ceiling and a pretty steep skill curve compared to other characters


Like I said, if you think of certain things in other games as being "flavor" aspects, GW2 is mostly flavor with enough skill that the PvP scene is actually pretty entertaining

It also has an action camera mode if you want to play it like a more console-esque action RPG
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>>385864043
He looks like he belongs in a norwegian black metal music vid.
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>>385864268
What's wrong, anon? Uwuu~
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>>385864445
But I am black. I don't even know what black metal is
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>>385864295
>less content than HoT
doesn't look that way at all
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>>385864085
This
In the lore, the Guardian is basically the product of years of secrets of various orders from various races being traded, becoming an amalgamation of Ritualists, dervishes, and monks, along with a bit of Charr military training
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>>385863939
>>385863940

Are these ones better or perhaps should I pick something less conspicuous?
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>>385864625
ah and here's the anet apologist
$50 for 4 maps back in hot
now $30 for 5 maps

sure there's plenty more content to do
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>>385864443
I was talking about getting the whole up to date experience, so for $30 I expect HoT to be included, or reduce it to an additional payment of $10 or $15. $20 is the pretty much the price of HoT on occasional sale.
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>>385864625
It's more content and fewer features, which I have been begging for for years
I'm happy they're focusing on adding content to anhandful of features that were added in the last expac
If the LS4 and expac 3 are like this, I'll be on this train a bit longer
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>>385864598
>>385864043
>>385863939
can you stop avatarfagging we already saw all of these in the last thread
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>>385864569

You are like a little baby.
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>>385864749
Boots are better but the red on the legs is kind of distracting
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>>385864784
oh no, I'm not mindlessly shitting on the game with outdated opinions, I must be a shill.
The maps are twice the size of those in HoT and they're promising for it to be more content heavy and less feature heavy like HoT was.
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>>385864443
i was willing to try the new class before PoF came out because i have a sudden interest
but i ain't spending $30
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>>385864598
Not going to lie, that's some cool armor
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reminder there's an open preview to everyone this weekend so you can make your own damn minds up on whether it's worth it
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>>385864827
>>385864827
I mean HoT was $40
So given that this has fewer features and we're getting no PvP bumps, it seems reasonable

I don't play other Expac oriented MMOs that much, do they typically include previous expacs in the newest one for some extreme discount?
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>>385864927
>whoring out your in-game creations is avatar-fagging
WRONG
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>>385864749
Do you have Bladed Boots unlocked?
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>>385864598
I ain't diggin' them boots bruh
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I'm ready.
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>>385865180
I wasn't around when HoT came out. Is it like the silverwaste from HoT or you can actually use the mounts and everything?
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>>385865202

Not right now. I think bladed armour tries way too hard.
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>>385865431
mounts will be usable through all of Tyria
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>>385865207
Too spikey?
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>>385865479
Sweet, can't wait.
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>>385865093
Thanks friend
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>mounts

You god damn dirty fucking apes. It wasn't supposed to be like this.
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>>385865467
Hmm, what about something like Vigil's Honor Boots? Or else I'd suggest changing your pants as well- those little bands on the whisper pants make trying to match to any boots lower than your knees difficult.
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>>385865181
>Hot was $40
>$40
I bought all GW1 games at $60 because they were actually separate, new games with equal features of the first game minus 2 new classes vs 6 core classes. HoT was a paper thin piece of shit that was priced at an extreme price of $50 when historically mmo expansions actually had content and $40 was the agreed price. So it's not that I expect all mmo expansions to be $30, but HoT was an actual fuck up that stirred up a shit storm and it's quite insulting that they're asking new players to pitch in another $20 (it was $25 on sale days) as some kind of sweet deal.
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>>385865798
is there any real argument AGAINST having them? You can fucking teleport within 30 seconds of anywhere on the map with waypoints as it is
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>>385865479
Really? Awesome
>>385865431
Not sure what you mean "Is it like the Silver Waste from HoT?"
Silverwaste was a free area that came with LS2, the four areas in HoT were Verdant Bring, Auric Basin, Tangled Depths and Dragon's Stand
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>>385865297
>Big black badass
>Still uses Nolan North's voice
>Have to hear him talk every 10 seconds
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>>385865983
As long as they don't fly they can still keep player interaction by having other players see each other instead of people flying over others.
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>>385866098
My bad I wasn't there for all of ls2 or 1 I joined around ls3 ep 3. So I guess people will just be able to explore the new areas and try out the new class mechanics with the beta.
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>>385865981
Wait, when did you pick up GW1? Cause I picked them up at launch and they weren't priced like that. I don't even remember them being priced like that when Utopia was floating around as a rumor.

Still, I agree that the cost of HoT was pretty fucking bad. I just didn't remember it being $50. I got some fun out of it but you'd think that you'd actually provide 5/6 the amount of content.

A guy in the other thread said they picked it up for $10 off of G2A or Cdkeys or something. If you're willing to brave it, just do that since I wager theyre still a bunch of keys floating around
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>>385865983
>>385866239
the PoF maps are likely the living story maps writ large: open areas, very few waypoints, map-specific movement abilities tied to mastery.
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>>385866618
They're all full priced retail games. Only EOTN wasn't because that is an actual expansion pack, meaning it's supplementary.
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What are the chances that the gemstore will be flooded with mount skins a week after its release?
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>>385866391
Ye.
So anything that is LS, it's available for all players.
Anything that is released WITH the expansion is going to be expansion only, unless it's PvP related
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>>385866107
>played with 3 male Human friends
>I was a boon spamming Guardian
>mfw "REFRESHING" after a boon is applied

Every fucking few seconds
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>>385866712
it's not a chance, its absolutely certain
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>>385866712
>a week after its release
and continually updated with new gem shit mounts every week for the next 2 years at least
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>>385866794
>>385866107
You can deactivate those btw
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>>385866794
>that one voice line thats so annoying you just disable character speaking
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>>385865983
Mounts are implemented becaue PoF maps are way bigger than the previous ones and they have skills that will help you move around new terrain like jumping, gliding etc
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>>385867032
Every fucking human voice line. Male and female asura voice lines are so fucking good. Let's turn up the heat. This is exhilarating. Geological forces at my control
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>>385867026
Oh shit, I didn't know that, that's pretty cool. Still sucks having a giga nigga speak with dweeby Nolan North's voice during the story segments.

Though I guess Guild Wars 1 had the opposite problem, if you made a skinny little twink he still spoke with Steve Blum's booming badass voice.
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>>385866706
OH, you meant that you bought each of the GW1 games at $60.
Yeah, I agree. Each one was designed to be a standalone experience AS WELL as being an extension of the overall story. It created a real Bizarre Adventure feeling.

Like I said, I enjoyed HoT and the ease of access made me more willing to pick it up versus something like Stormblood or Heavensward or any of the WoW expacs that let you uplevel. So I come here knowing its a niche that I only really get from them.

I'm hoping that the PoF release will lead to HoT being put on more extreme sales more often

Another thing that works both for and against the HoT pricing is that the base game went free to play. So on the one hand, you now get the full suite of shit that was in the base game if you come in with a free account to buy HoT. On the other, there's a blatant disrespect for vets that's implicit in that decision that rubs me the wrong way and I think it's still there to a degree. If PoF's content is worth at least half of the joy I've had with GW2, I'll say they've started focusing on veteran players finally
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>>385867251
>tfw Charr Male voice is on the level of Rytlock's
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>>385865861

I think I have found a simpler solution.
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>>385867251
I really like "I have ignition!"
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>>385867421
Being a male Charrzerker is fun. I love the "I WILL DESTROY YOU ALL!" voiceline when you enter zerker mode.
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>tfw female salad
>can never post character because people will shitpost at me
I made a mistake and it's too late to change now
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>>385867804

Make her monstrous.
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Just go into it, not sure if I want to boost a Mesmer or Elementalist.
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Since the game is apparently somewhat dead since it doesn't even have it's own general - is there still this base version of the game I can play before I decide on buying Heart of Thorns? If so, up to what level can I "enjoy" the game without missing out?
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>>385867804
>still no race change in gemstore after 5 years
They could just reset your personal story and unequip your current armor.
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>>385867885
It's not dead. The general got spambotted to death by one autistic furry. The game is super active, especially right now with the new xpac announcement. You can play about half the base game for free, download it and see for yourself.
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>>385867880
Save the boosts until expansion, or the very least, after the free ingame weekend event this weekend.

>>385867976
>They could just reset your personal story
If it was easy, they would have done it already. There's obviously something keeping them from being able to do it.
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>>385867885

It's alive. What happens is that there is a spambot that fills the thread with garbage every time it is created. Most people who posted there have moved to other places.
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>>385867885
>thread activity on 4chan of all fucking places determines the life or death of a game
Look at this loser and laugh. 4chan is not something that 95% of game devs or games need to care about.
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>>385867979
Thinking of making a she boon necro.
New human female hairstyle and sand nigger themed abilities kinda calls for it.
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>>385867885
You can enjoy vanilla and reach max level,PvP and do WvW.Just know that there restrictions in what you can buy and to whom you can send mail,talk etc for F2P players.
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>>385867885
>is there still this base version of the game I can play before I decide on buying Heart of Thorns? If so, up to what level can I "enjoy" the game without missing out?
Yes there is. As of now you can get max level and play all the content that was in vanilla, with a catch.

>Only two character slots
>Can only buy/sell basic mats off AH
>No Map Chat (Not a big deal)
>Missing features that the expac gave (More bag slots, ect)

I got to max level and played for a few weeks and I really didn't run into anything, except you cannot go to the main hub until level 35, and my personal story wanted me there at 30.

>Since the game is apparently somewhat dead since it doesn't even have it's own general
Nah a autistic furryfag built a bot that pulls posts from all over 4chan and dumps them there. Mods dont care, most people went to discord
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>>385866712

Nigga I don't care I just want a fucking golem to run around in.

And not that shitty racial ability one, either. A charr tank would also be cool.
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>>385867313
>started focusing on veteran players finally
Yeah right. I still don't see any discounts or upgrade packs for people who bought base game back when it was a full priced release.
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>selling mounts as an expansion
kek what a shit game
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>>385867758
I love the Might line on Charrs in particular, it sounds like a good english anime dub
>I feel?....STRONG!
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>>385867251
YOURE DUMB
YOU'LL DIE
AND YOU WILL LEAVE A DUMB CORPSE
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>>385868260
But you got a free character slot after the backlash;it means they car about you!
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>still no GW2 for PS4
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Will they ever release a new legendary that looks as good as Sunrise/Eternity?
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>>385868452
You get one if you preordered their full fucking priced expansion.
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>>385862040
I don't give a flying fuck about the gameplay itself, no amount of expansions can fix that steaming pile of shit.
But bringing in Balthazar and pulling a reddit fanfic tier twist by making him evil is bullshit. As a GW1 lorefag, this genuinely makes me mad.
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>>385868260
I mean in terms of content.
The question for me will be if this $30 expac is actually worth $30 of new and substantive content compared to the amount we got int he base game for $60.
That's my measure: if the thing they're giving veteran players is actually something veteran players have been asking for and will enjoy.

Let me put it this way: HoT was incredibly skim on actual content, despite the size of zones. If PoF is actually a meat and potatoes expac that has content net worth that is half of the base game, it's a good deal in my book.

As far as how to get HoT for cheap, I'd say try to start a petition to have Anet drop the price of it to $10...they don't listen to fans but if they think it'll sell more copies, the might do it...especially given how they discounted the base game just prior to making it free and HoT's release
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>mfw remembering my pvp staff ele days in 2014

I don't even want to get back into the game because I just know they ruined my favourite things. That's what they do.
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>>385862040
On one hand, Nightfall was my favorite expansion for GW1 and going back to Elona could be awesome.

On the other hand, the story sounds fucking stupid.

Though Palawa Joko might return and make the story bearable.

Then again, Guild Wars 2 is shit and its writers are shit so thats a long shot.

Bit of a mixed bag.

Also >>385862835
everything here.
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>>385868061
My only thing is that I have too (Since I bought both expansions today since I lacked them)

Really thinking about getting an Ele boosted, then dicking around and going back and doing something else after beta.
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>>385862040
not gonna play some gay furry game
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>>385864268
God, I hate what Arenanet has become.
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>>385868828
is it because they took away tornadometeorstorm
'cus those were the days
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>>385868852
It's been solid since LS3 started.
LS1 was garbage, the factions were sort of interesting but Scarlet and the actual character development they tried was weak as hell
LS2 was okay if only because they focused on mystique and the new zones a lot which added some exploration and discussion back into the community
LS3 has been pretty good: new zones and lots of new intrigue and less poorly written romance. Even HoT was pretty light on any romantic elements in the interactions...they were all mostly pretty bearable for the most part.

PoF actually reminds me of the GW1 in terms of how the stories are constructed
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im interested, $30 is a pretty nice pricepoint but do i get HoT? i stopped playing right before it released and i remember hearing about it being "bundled" with the next expansion once it comes out like WoW
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>>385868991
Leaving the Flame Legion was a mistake.
Honestly, I wish there was a furry/yiffer only server that they could all just fuck off to. A single server that is completely separate from the megaserver system
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>>385869180
Their website mentions that if you want to buy HoT you have to select it together with the new expansion at checkout, so yeah, you have to buy both.
Just buy it from some keyseller for 15 shekels, I doubt anet's pricing is much cheaper.
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we mensis cage now
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>>385868828
>Though Palawa Joko might return and make the story bearable.
Don't kid yourself anon. Even if they bring Palawa back, he won't be the mastermind warlord that we knew in GW1. He'll be just another lolsorandom whedon-esque witty shithead, at best. At worst, he'll just be flat out evil and irredeemable.
Nu-ANet has no ability to write nuanced characters and stories anymore.
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>>385869378
since people are assuming that's menzies
does this mean when you kill micolash in the nightmare of mensis he wakes up in the crystal desert as menzies?
deepest lore
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>>385869010
>full zerker since nobody can touch me anyway
>fiery retreat out of every loser's opener
>ten different kinds of CCs to make them my bitch
>spam triggering all of the "if you do X, deal instant lightning damage to stunned dude" traits
>dump fucking insane meteors on cap points when no one's paying attention to me
>dart around the map at ludicrous speed
>utterly untouchable with only 11k health
>playing my keyboard like a piano

It just gives me such a special feeling
I've never cared for MMO PvP until I put a staff on my ele
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>>385862040
>buy account
>can't send attachments for a full fucking week
What the fuck
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>>385869180
No.
Get LS2, LS3 and PoF.
HoT is only if you have 5-10 friends who are willing to help you level masteries through events and you absolutely want to play through the content there.

I'll list some of the content and issues with HoT and you can determine if any of it is a dealbreaker because I wouldn't say that it has 1/3 the content of the base game (If the price point is $20 and the base game was $60, it ought to have 1/3 the content):
>4 new zones that have their own meta-events where all the 'hearts' have been replaced with quests that contribute to the meta event
>These meta events need lots of people to function properly, though you can usually get into a megaserver with enough people most prime time hours
>instead of leveling, you get masteries which are huge exp sinks that reward you with location-specific benefits
>each of the first three areas are centered around a single mastery plus some that affect all areas
>You get a hang glider you can use in ever new zone and most cities
>The story can be run in about 6 hours
>There arent many new armor sets
>there aren't many new weapon sets
>enemies are more complex now and more interesting to fight, both individually and as groups.
>Actually great final boss in the 4th area
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>>385868828

PvP is okay nowdays. There's a new pvp hub world which is pretty cool. There's even automated monthly tournaments now where you can get some neato prizes. Sadly the first one this month got completely ruined by PvE shitters paying pro players to play tournaments for them.
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>>385869271
ACTUALLY surprisingly its only $50 for the HoT/PoF bundle
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>>385866728
LS season that releases after an expansion requires that expansion, i.e. only LS1 and 2 were "free"
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>>385870038
Really? I thought the new LS3 zones were free
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>>385869835
Just so you are aware, LS3 can't be played without HoT. You can unlock it, sure, but you won't be able to set foot into any of the maps or instances.
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>>385869723
>consume the expensive +AP food
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>>385869905
wtf I expected $40
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>>385866107
This.


Why would anyone play anything other than Charr?
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>>385869835
>>385869140
>Get LS2, LS3 and PoF.
>LS 3 IS GOOD I SWEAR
No, fuck you. You play as a lesbian abusive relationship while your tumblrite team does fuck all. Oh and the fact that the center of the alchemy is the fucking pale tree is a fuck you to the Asura race.
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>>385869723
>back in vanilla ~4 years ago
>doing a run of the moleman dungeon in which the final boss was two golems that had to fought separately, turned invincible near each other
>team splits up into an ele and myself (zerker axe war) taking one golem, and the other three taking the other golem
>ele doing so much damage I couldn't take aggro off him, still hardly took a hit
>we did such fat dps I had to split and go to the other golem
>ele solos his golem, kills it before the other four of us killed ours

I can't handle the autistic apm of playing one, but goddamn do I respect and love a good ele.
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>>385870157
You're thinking about it the wrong way. It's not the maps that were free, it was the entire story episode that they came with. If you logged in any day that the current episode at the time was active, it would unlock for you at no cost. Any episodes you missed you have to buy access to, and by extension, essentially buy access to the maps.
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>>385870363
wtf i love yuri
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>>385870325
>human
>big human
>small human
>furry
>salad human

not a lot of options, at least the last 2 mix it up a little
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>>385870412
This is not yuri. yuri implies cute anime girl, not one following the other doing things like murdering the centaur and a sylvari. Also, they both look like shit.
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>>385870582
oh I thought they were still carrying those mesmer + elementalist? characters around
nvm then
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>>385870518
More like
>sluts
>big drunken sluts
>le reddid gnome-frogs
>wholesome campy cat-monsters
>idiotic salad-sues
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>>385870363
>the fact that the center of the alchemy is the fucking pale tree

you what
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>>385870387
Is it fucking wrong that GW 2 without the living story was the best fucking mmo out there? Seriously, every living story made teh game worse for me. Also, I fucking miss Destiny Edge.
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>>385870953
Kasmeer and Marjory are still around. Kasmeer was even in the trailer for PoF.
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>>385871081
Oops, meant to quote >>385870689
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>>385871081
Destiny Edge, not team fucktard tumbrite retarded.
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is it worth getting into gw now?
how fun is the greatsword or one headed(no shields tho)?
n-not a guts fag, i like amazon chicks with big sword
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>>385870953
>>385871245
>a band with a member from each race
oh, wow, how interesting and diverse... great work GW2/novelist, compelling storytelling there!
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>>385869835
I don't mind slogging through Living Story content but they're expecting us to buy it for fucking $16? The shitty HoT deal is already $20.
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>>385871245
>when the script for the first mention of "Destiny's Orphans" was leaked and nobody could believe it
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>>385870953
>>385871245
Snaff > Zojja, but yeah, DE was alright. Logan done fucking goofed tho.
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>>385871245
DE will never exist again. Eir is deader than dead, Zojja is so damaged by HoT's story she never even showed up in LS3, Logan is still injured and not likely to do anything important again, Rytlock is with the player character most of the time, and Caithe is still ashamed of being a Sylvari and is sticking to the shadows. It's time to let them go.
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>>385871543
Wasn't there some issue with Felicia Day demanding an enormous amount of money for more voice work for Zojja? It's been awhile, so I forget.
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>>385871364
DE actually has a dynamic to it and you help fix things up so they all can work together at the end of GW 2 personal story. I actually hope to team up with them again but then Felicia Day became a jew and no more DE. Even before this, you even got a team of your own friends in the personal story. It pisses me off that I can't hang out with Dinky or a lesbian charr but I have to deal with a team of tumblrites.

>>385871543
Yeah I aware of all this. I just wonder what the fuck would happen if Felicia Day wasn't a fucking jew or they replace Zojja's va. We could have still have those instead of Destiny Orphan. I seriously fucking hate Destiny Orphan.

>>385871730
That is exactly what happen.
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i'm waiting a few days to see if there is enough of a shitstorm to have the HoT price lowered
but honestly it seems fine if new expansions will now be sold standalone for $30 that's pretty much what people asked for
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>>385868196
>tfw anet makes the afro free because they're scared people will cry racism if they make it paid
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>>385870363
>you play as a lesbian abusive relationship
Wait, what are you talking about.
For you to play as a lesbian abusive relationship, that would assume you're playing as a female and that there's romance for the MC in the game.

I assume you're talking about Marjory and Kasmeer. Yeah they're pretty useless but you don't have to engage with that if you dno't want to (unless it's LS1 and the first half of LS2)
And my useless tumblrite team (save for Rox) is part of the humor I find in it...Plenty of games have useless parties and party members and they're still funny from a certain perspective
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>>385862040
>Whole thread is just people circle jerking over their furry characters
Yeah sounds about right for a GW2 thread, nice game you got there guys looks like it's another expansion of nothing
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>>385871828
yeah, fuck that
get rid of these bands of mary sues and return to the GW1 style of singular sues like Kormir
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>>385871397
Yeah but the amount of content in it is, ironically, greater than what was in HoT.
Think about that: there is more content in the free updates than in the base expansion.
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>>385871838
I would love a kangaroo mount, sign me up
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Surely this time we'll get better post-release content than a long-ass drought followed by small fixes to expansion maps, 3 new fractals and 6 small, expendable maps that foster the story instances. I'm positive though, Mike o' usually never says something unless it's certain, and he seemed confident about the new release schedule, so they seem to have gotten their shit together.
On a lighter note, the new specs seem really cool and with a lot of flavor similar to that of gw1 classes, rather than just being the core class with more deeps.

>>385871904
pic for you anon
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>>385872000
If it's LS2 + LS3 bundle for $20 I'd consider it.
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Honest question

I am still going through A Crack In Ice right now

If I watch the announcement trailer/video, will it spoil the last 3 Living Story episodes?
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>>385871828
>lesbian Charr
>thinking it wouldn't be full tumblrite

>>385871887
Doubtful since too many people have already bought the bundle on announcement hype.
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>>385872149
yes
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>>385863586
This is what pisses me off the most. I played so many hours of the original GW series was super hyped for this game and then a month into playing it not only was I bored but that giant chinese hack happened and I lost my account. Rather than helping me out NCSoft just said "LOL BUY OUR OTP OR MAKE A BETTER PASSWORD IDIOT" I've never been more pissed off at a game company in my life.
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>>385872180

Oh, I'm out of here for now then
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>>385872149
The only one of your remaining episodes that won't be spoiled is the one after Crack in the Ice. The fifth one will be heavily spoiled; sixth not so much, but it's based off of the fifth.
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>>385872089
That wouldn't be a bad deal.
I'd price them like this
LS1: Free in the form of 3 fractals for each big arc
LS2: $8
HoT: $16
LS3: $16
PoF: $30 (if the claims are to be believed)
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>>385868359
ruined in an early HoT patch that culled most the racial responses to boons.
Norns don't say "I can feel bears power!" to might anymore
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>>385862040
I'm excited, any game that adds more content to the cash shop than the actual core game is always a winner
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>>385871942
>return to the GW1 style of singular sues like Kormir
>entire story of Prophecies is literally following a band of heros (Mhenlo, Cynn, Devona, Aidan, Eve) as they rescue Tyria from the evil lich and fulfill the Flameseeker Prophecies
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>>385872256
realy wow i have had nothing but good service from arenet they refunded me the differance when i missed a sale by a day
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>>385872584
WAIT WHAT? I guess I've oblivious cause I could have sworn most were left in.
I get that they were trying to clean up the aesthetic noise for PvP but damnit
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>>385872584
>culled most the racial responses to boons.
For what fucking reason? What possible reason is there to remove some of the already almost non-existent flavor of the different races?
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>>385872606
>>entire story of Prophecies is literally following a band of heros (Mhenlo, Cynn, Devona, Aidan, Eve) as they rescue Tyria from the evil lich and fulfill the Flameseeker Prophecies
uh, that sounds like some shit from a book
they were just side mercs in the game
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>>385870953
Yes it is because apparently you forgot about fucking Trahearne
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>>385872606
He being butthurt that he didnt became a god, when in actuality, you have to consider that everyone there, the players, henchmen, and the heroes, all could have become a god and it would fuck up the gameplay story stand point. Not to mention everyone got a life to live and Kormir was already fucked up beyond repair at that point. After all, you wouldn't want to walk in DR and find the Statue of Truth is a player name XXxXSephriohXxxX and he fully nude wielding an arch sword.
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>>385872606
The Mhenlo gang doesn't show up until like Crystal Desert though
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>>385872879
I don't count that faggot as DE.
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>well-written story in MMOs
lmao.Name 1
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>>385872703
It was really out of left field for me too. I had nothing but amazing experiences with them with the original Guild Wars but then this happened and I was completely turned off. Maybe they were just overloaded with work because they were trying to help over 20k people recover their accounts? It's a strong possibility but still I've never gone back.
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I know this is going to end in
>git gud
but why the fuck is HoT content so hard? Like these mobs hit extra hard and have huge fucking CC. I can only dodge so much. I have exotic gear too.
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>>385873093
Guild Wars 1, Secret World, Runescape.
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>>385873093
Final Fantasy XIV: Heavensward
a lot of storylines in City of Heroes
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>>385872879
The weirdest thing is that I started to like the idea of him more as I played LS2 and HoT.
I began to conceive of the relationship between the MC and Trahearne as similar to Big Boss and Miller, respectively.
Trahearne isn't the strongest guy in the Pact, he's just the administrator and strategic head, which makes sense. The Player-Character in GW2 is less a hero like GW1 (even though you weren't the main hero in that game) and much more of an everyman who climbs the ranks by effort. That's the case in nearly every arc of the personal story and HoT itself. But you never actually become LEADER of the Charr or of the Priory or of the Pact. You're always the point man but not necessarily the Bioware Protagonist (tm) who gets an absurd amount of executive power while still being a front-line adventurer
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>>385872814
>>385872794
there was this bug during launch of HoT where players would just ramble on and on like a schizoid. So they "fixed" it by just using the generalized responses and hard wiring them.
Which is why you'll never hear the racial diversity to boons ever again, unless somehow they properly fix that bug
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>>385873173
>that spoiler

Just have to keep twisting that knife, don't you?
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>>385873169
>GW1
Fun stories but not necessarily well written. Very much in the vein of the LotR movies.
GW2 has some of that too, MarjoryxKasmeer notwithstanding

>Secret World
At the cost of every other aspect of the game, including music and sound design since they can't be asked to put diddly in the cutscenes

>Runescape
The only right answer

>>385873173
STOP TELLING ME HOW GOOD FFXIV STORY IS, IM NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO GET INTO IT
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>tried to find the /vg/ after almost a year of not playing to see what they think
>there is not general thread
>last thread was 4 hours ago
>from start till end they didnt discuss a thing about gw2

this is how bad things have gone, but im not surprised
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>>385873167
It was done in response to everyone running zerker gear. They made even trash mobs hit like a fucking train, with attacks that you couldn't possibly fully avoid, in order to discourage the full zerker meta.
Which sort of makes sense in dungeons/raids, but in overworld pve it completely conflicts with every other aspect of gameplay.

>>385872850
>>385872985
They only showed up as henchman at that point, but the canon story is that they are the heroes of the Flameseeker Prophecies.
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>>385872879
>imblying anyone did the mainstory more than once
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>>385873351
What, I still have race-specific callouts.
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>>385873661
could you not tell that it was a spambot from start to finish?
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>>385873661
That's /vg/ in general now. People just go there to shitpost.
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>>385873661
that would be because nearly every post in the thread was from bots pulling posts from other generals
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>>385873661
I thought it got banned for becoming a yiffy Erotic Role Playing den of iniquity.
Just go to the Reddit or the GW2 website forums if you want to get a sense of the response to it
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>>385873169
>secret world
fuck I really want to play this but I'm not paying for an MMO devoid of players
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Is there any conceivable way of running a v1.0 client, or hosting any kind of private server from an early iteration?
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>>385873347
And here lies why everyone hate Trahearne: you do all the work for him and he is seen as jesus for your effort. If this was an open world mmo like SWG, where everyone is a moisture farmer doing everyday stuff, then that acceptable, but this is a Theme park where you pretty much did everything. Trahearne didn't do jack shit. He didn't response to Scarlet's attack because MUH DRAGON and was fully retarded NOT to use scout after LS2. He end up killing a lot of soldier out of stupidity. This is all mostly on the writer, Angel McCoy, being a shitty writer.
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>>385873720
Yeah that makes sense. Makes the game feel like shit though. Hopefully PoF won't be too punishing.

Another thing I really disliked was them getting rid of hearts, but I'm sure not everyone agrees. I understood why they did it though. I dunno the expansion content and how you unlocked things was just so drastically different (at least for me) than the base game it kinda put me off.
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Is it worth buying the expansions for $50? I feel like the game is a huge waste of time
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>>385873782
have you heard them say anything else but the one or two liners though? they say the same thing over and over now. I haven't heard
"I can outrun a centaur!" in years now
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>>385873347
Yeah honestly it's more of a writing problem than the idea. They mellowed up Treehorn post LS2.
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>>385873981
>huge waste of time
that's usually how games work isn't it
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>>385873661
The general is being spammed to death by a bot unleashed by some autist a while ago. The thread has largely been abandoned.
That said, even if it wasn't being nuked by a spambot, it'd just be filled with autistic furry erp and circlejerking. That general went to hell around a year after the launch of the game.
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>>385874047
man idk but some games have actually good story/quests
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>>385873735
I did it up to Crawr Island for the lion key.
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>>385873661
>>385874101
Those fucktard took /mmog/ down with them becaus they couldn't arse out in the discord.
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>>385873992
Yeah, my ele charr says all possible lines for instance
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>>385874147
well maybe I have low standards then, but I feel like I got my money's worth
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>>385863430

>standing upright

Anon...
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>>385873951
I agree, that's the main crux of why he didn't work as well as I think he could have.
If he was a Miller type character from MGS, he would have been great because he would be seen as the strategic and visionary head of the Pact while the Commander is the tip of the spear of all operations.
People could have appreciated Trahearne but understood that the Commander is the driving force of the Pact in any theater it operates in.

LS2 made him okay but more than anything, I just hated how he popped out of nowhere in the base game and how he did nothing, not even weigh in on issues during the LS1.

Angel is garbage, did she get fired yet? I know the entire Salad race are her 3rd rate fantasy bait but she didn't even do that well with them.
>>385874027
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>>385862040
Look, I bought the base game, it wasn't good, the story developed into the worst shit possible over time, the living story was fucking horrible, and then the expansion that came out was even fucking worse.

This game is irredeemable. They can't do anything about it.
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>>385873951
>This is all mostly on the writer, Angel McCoy, being a shitty writer.
She's not just a shitty writer, but a shitty writer using GW2 as a vehicle to push her fanfiction plant race of snowflake messiahs. They are literally her creation, and she wants them to be shown as being better than every other race.
Hence Scarlet Briar graduating from all three Asura colleges in record time, and Trahearne being the first coming of Plant Christ, and our Lord and Savior.
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Has there been actual gameplay footage of the elite specs yet?
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>>385874496
>that one mission in EotN where you rescue Pyre's brothers
>charging into the boss room with a pack of big ass bear cat mages backing you up
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>>385874635
The worst part is, I thought the idea of being a newcomer plant race was pretty fucking dope, and then I found it that my mind wasn't my fucking own and that my experiences were going to be fodder for other Sylvari getting born with experience.

Yeah, I'm in the Order of Whispers, and a fucking thief, and my experiences are getting watched by other people like a fucking movie? And this is supposed to be some cool positive thing that I should be happy about? How?

Fuck that. That entire race is some kind of "hive mind are good xD" horseshit. I don't want to be part of that in any way.
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>>385874759
Yeah.
Ele Weaver:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQH22obsdhM
Ranger Soul Beast:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhFrgfUw2c4
Warrior Spellbreaker:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ell7savl4vg
Engie Willsmith:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG3sfvm87Z0
Guardian Firebrand:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp_j4CQ-YfM
Mesmer Mirage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcztlI-bIuI
Thief Deadshot:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOyL0QFkQ5c
Necro Scourge:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV4dyXVjQIQ
Rev Renegade:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAjVtBlRfAk
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>>385873720
>retconning a band of sues to be the heroes is better than having one sue who was actually in the game doing the things
jesus that gw1 butthurt is really something
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>>385870689
They are, they are just far less in your face. Or maybe they just don't use them as much. They're still around and some of their interactions with you still revolves around their relationship, but it's not as bad as the whole "lipstick lesbians flirting with each other while nearby victims of deadly deadly spores lose their minds to debilitating hallucinations" episode.
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>>385875014
Even in your own race, you're ignore. You remember grabbing that sword from a kid who was force to fight an army of undead because his salad master was retarded and doesn't know humans doesn't upload their mind into the forest? Yeah, the pale tree ignore you and gave the sword to Traheanre.
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>>385875014
It's not even a well executed Hivemind=Good race.
The issue is that no sylvari ever ask why they're given anything. They're all braindead children in terms of behavior.
In the process, they all become the same person essentially. Other writers have been doing a lot to differentiate Trahearne from Caithe from every other fucking sylvari but they're basically all the same person in the base game
The only one that seems okay is Canach.
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>>385874759
Yes guild wars 2 YouTube channel has footage of each new spec
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>>385874292
is 4chan somehow powerless to stop this? if so why hasn't someone destroyed the entire site? set us free pls
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>>385875164
>>retconning
Anon, do you know what that word means? They were the heroes of the story from day 1 in GW1.
And I was never saying it's better than what they did with Kormir; just stating the facts as they are.
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>>385875137
>thief sniper
>with patience and brutal accuracy
>their malice increases
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Have they said what we're going to be able to do in the preview this weekend? I really want to check out Spellbreaker, so I know if I want to roll a Elonian Warrior
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>>385875507
really makes you think
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>>385874914

That mission was so fun, like most of the missions in that game. ;_;
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Right you cunts.

I haven't played Heart of Thorns. I hear Thieves can use a Staff now. Is it good/fun? I really don't know what I'd play if I did come back for HoT/This.
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>>385874635
Treehorn mellowed out and proper writers finally fixed him, thankfully.

>>385874759
Therw's this BogOtter guy showing off elite classes.
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>>385875137
Spellbreakers look pretty sick.
They've got some of the coolest skill effects at least
>that shattered glass look
>PvP Mesmer: I want to do magic!
>Spellbreaker: No
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>>385875515
you were already told they were not the heroes in the game and your response to that was "muh canon"
you only get 2 dodges anon use them wisely
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>>385874292

>Wanna go to /vg/ and discuss dead tier MMOs like LoTRO or Neverwinter
>/mmog/ killed by a GW2 Autist
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>>385875654
It might be the first new zone of the first new map and the elite specs.
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>>385875137
>Soulbeast
HOLY SHIT WE GET FUCKING IBOGAS AS PETS?! THAT'S FUCKING HYPEEEEEEE
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>>385868991
>glasses
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>>385875137
SOULBEAST.
WHAT THE EFUCK IS THIS SHAMAN KING TYPE SHIT
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>>385875683
Daredevils are fucking annoying in wvw
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>>385868991
>>385869271
>implying you wouldn't fuck a sparkle cat, whom have groom her fur to be soft and fluffy
If GW 2 wasn't so shit, I would be on looking up femcharr's skirt and their pink panties
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>>385875137

>Soulbeast
>PETLESS RANGER!!!!
>Still uses pet a lot in the video

It better not be a fucking longass cooldown or some gay shit.

Pets in this game are a fucking mistake.
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>>385875137
Renegade abilities have a very Gate of Babylon look to them.
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>>385875683
Depends on the game mode. In PvE it's slightly more repetitive than every other class and has less carry potential, but in PvP and WvW you get some really fun, hard to master spike builds that'll get your juice flowing.
>>
non-human Holocaust when?
We need to eliminate all these cunty mutants and their magic too
>>
Haven't played in like 4 years, and I just logged into my sylvari ranger. how should i be playing this fucker?
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>>385876652
Druid
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>>385862040
I played this game a bit ago as an engineer. I looked up recently what optimal play is and it seems to be stance changing a bunch and using different moves from them. It feels like playing guitar hero or something. Is this right? I like tanking in other mmos. What are good classes for that?
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>>385876331
It's gonna be an eagle gauntlet.
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>>385876470
As long as Angel McCoy and Teddy the I'M A GIRL BUT I'M LESBIAN~ still works at Anet, the humans isn't safe. For fuck sake, he pretty much play FF14 exclusive and trying to steal their ideas.
>>
Did they finally add in hard trinity roles?
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>they're adding mounts
wew fucking lad, what happened to all those promises
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>>385876858
Which one?
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>>385876723
closest thing to a tank currently is the chronomancer, build does little damage and focuses on buffing teammate damage, as a side effect you can use defensive stats and have active defense utility available to you
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>>385876652
Only time I ever played ranger sword/dagger plus the survival utilities was pretty hot.
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>>385876723
That's the condi variant and its quite powerful but not recommended after such a hiatus.Chronomancer is what's mostly used as tank in end game but again I'd rcommnd against doing that since you're not familiar with that content.
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>>385876857
No.
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>>385876857
why would you want that in GW2?
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>>385876858
Broken as soon as they introduced ascended gear.
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>>385876857
Just go play FFXIV, why do you want every MMO to be the same?
Specialization in genres allows for more interesting design choices to arise
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>>385877083
I am not at max level and I have no issue with re-rolling. I have read Engi is tough to use from a technical stand point.
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>>385877154
Because its objectively the best way to have combat in an MMO. They realized it and are now pushing it for raids because you cant do one well without it, but it seems theyre afraid to commit to it.
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>>385877325
Im playing XIV actually but I need a break and GW2 is a great game to jump back into during events and patches.
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Sell me on this shit. What is there to do at end game?
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>>385862040
>not cantha
RRRRREEEEEEEEEEEE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKJSC_mteIg
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>>385877464
Raids,wvw,and spvp.
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>>385877464
sell me on why i should sell you something for free
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>>385877515
PvE is what I'm most interested in. How do GW2 raids compare to like WoW and FFXIV?
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>>385877362
>best combat
>healer
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>>385877409
See, this nigga knows what's up.
If you're tired of fairly focused and intense Trinity MMO gameplay, jump into the Vacation/Disney World MMO for a bit.

I've been fairly happy with the solid pace of the LS3 content and how much we get from it
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>>385877481
You do REALLY fucking want these two fuck being charge of Cantha? They would make the Warden a sylvari race and somehow make a progressive lesbian girl a new empress beacuse the current one is racist.
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>>385877464
the same small amount of shitty raid content over and over, wvw zerg rush cancer, or an okay PVP mode
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>>385876652
Condi Ranger or Heal Druid are probably the two most popular at the moment
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>>385877464
Grind for skins with heavy low RNG wrapped around collecting x amount of items multiplied by timegate and then spend hundreds of gold to craft
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>>385877409
Then I would recommend other mmos that isn't GW 2. MMOs like TERA, Black Desert, any private server ever.
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>>385877624
DONT SHOW THEIR FACES HERE
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So Holosmith is like reverse Necro? Exceed mechanic adds heat which increases damage they deal but when it maxxes out they explode?
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>>385877624
I don't want anyone from the current ArenaNet in charge of doing anything related to Cantha, but that doesn't mean I don't want to go back

I HAVE TO GO BACK ANON
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>>385875683
Daredevils are the H-Hayai! class.
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>>385877481
cantha will probably be 3rd expac, with tengu
lol
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>>385877624
>tfw the MInistry of Purity would be lambasted as a pure evil organization enslaving the people to do its bidding
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Is the game fun yet?

I'm not half assing an attempt at a shitpost here, genuine question.

They have refined combat a ton since I last played, changed conditions to not be shit and added elite specializations and countless more things I probably don't know about.

I tried really hard to like the game when I played at launch, but combat just felt like a hot mess of people rolling around with no idea what the fuck to do.
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>>385871345
I really love greatsword warrior, though my favorite is still the hammer. Tons of fun to have a giant norn chick smashing stuff. Sword can be fun since you get to try other weapons as off hand and find what setup you find the most fun.
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>>385877659
>ok pvp mode
The matchmaking is so fucking shit, you get matched with people in platinum rank that lack basic skills and knowledge of the game mode, that's not fucking ok.
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>>385877906
It was never fucking fun. You're literally better off playing WoW or FF14 at this point.
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>>385877791
A little bit more like a Warrior type build for Engie.
You get a heat (adrenaline) bar that can boost certain skills but the twist is that it can actually hurt you if pushed past a certain limit (adding in some actual resource management)
They also get access to tons of holo weapons, which seems in line with the Warrior design flavor
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>>385877982
ehh, it's still better than FFXIV's PVP
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Can someone tell me how the Max Level boosts work? You use it and you just go to Level 80 in the first zone of the game? That's it?

I'm considering buying Heart of Thorns and Path of Fire for $50 and it comes with two max level boosts.
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>>385878036
So the holo weapons are pseudokits?
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>>385877568
Haven't played neither because I refuse to pay sub for skinner box scams.
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>>385878136
you get teleported to the silverwastes and can select a few types of gear. you can test whatever you want out as long as you don't leave the silverwastes
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>>385877362
t. brainlet.
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>>385878269
>you can test whatever you want out as long as you don't leave the silverwastes
OK so basically you enter the Silverwastes with a ton of extra gear, and whatever you equip is what you leave with?
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>>385868196
She-boon necro with the skull face paint would be pretty cool.
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>>385878196
Yeah, though I'll have to see how they actually work before I give you any more details since I dont have them myself.
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>>385878450
kinda
it's been a while since I used mine so that's just what I remember
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So what the fuck is a Revenant then?

Are they fun?
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>>385878502
aight
still not sure if I'll buy but that sounds pretty cash actually, I'd like to skip the grind if possible
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>>385876836
So basically he's openly advertising a competing MMORPG? Isn't that some kind of treason? Who the fuck hires and keeps these damaged snowflakes employed?
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>>385878601
Jesus don't be such a faggot that's not treason you autist
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>>385878601
just because you work on one game doesn't mean you can't play others
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Which class is the most fun?
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>>385878554
>I'd like to skip the grind if possible
>he doesn't know about HoT's grind

>>385878601
>>385878687
>>385878750
>shove his lesbian fetish in the living story
>shove that tran bullshit in LA
>both literally self insert
>instead of playing the game he cater himself, he plays FF14
It pisses me off that this fucktard help ruin the Guild Wars franchise with his fetishes and he doesn't even play it. Guild Wars 1 does not deserve this at all.
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>>385878847
>he doesn't know about HoT's grind
then tell me about it you fucking faggot
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>>385878847
>lesbian trans woman

so chris-chan, asian flavor
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>>385878515
They're kind of in the vein of GW1's ritualist or dervish, stylistically. They channel the spirits of renowned figures through a connection to the Mists, or something like that.
As for whether they're fun
>GW2
>fun
lolno
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>>385876836
Well I like FF14 bosses, I hope he at least makes them tolerable.
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>>385878921
Not that guy but I'll do it
The masteries, a single line mind you, need about 3X as much exp as it takes to go from 1-80
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Why is it this one guy bringing up accounts of miniscule people in this thread.
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>>385879301
ok but what if you aren't in a rush to do endgame content with masteries?

or is singleplayer GW2 for the expansions impossible
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>>385879301
Good thing those maps give so much exp.
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>>385879301
The benefit, on the other hand, is that you only need to do it once, the masteries are account bound.
The intention is that you burn through the zones with one character one time around for the story, getting just what you need.

Then, every next character you use to go through those Expac zones benefit from the previous unlocks and unlock new ones, like a NG+ sort of thing
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>>385878921
>>385879301
That's not even the worst part. The worst part is getting mastery points.
You either have to run around the map collecting them or you have to do shitty busy work achievements. I fucking hate achievements.
WHY DO I HAVE TO DO ACHIEVEMENTS TO LEVEL UP THEY SHOULD BE OPTIONAL AND ONLY FOR AUTISTS WHO WANT TOTAL COMPLETION NOT AN ESSENTIAL PART OF THE GAME FUCK
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I managed to recover my old GW1 Account

Shame it caps the download speed to 150kb, I will have to wait some hours to play
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>>385879301
>>385879528
The catch is that the grind was added because without it, the xpansion is about 15 minute worth of gameplay, which lead to another pont: THE EXPANSION IS A OVERPAID DLC.
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>>385879610
Nigga most of them are easy to get.
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>>385879610
Are masteries actually required?
>>385879627
Yeah it takes a long time
but idk dude I went back to it and while it's as I remember it mechanically what the fuck is there to do anymore? I used to love the faction battles but I don't think those happen anymore
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>>385879453
In HoT, singleplayer is almost impossible.
The zones are not the Hearts from the basegame but are events that are part of a map-wide meta event.
These individual events within a map are generally pretty hard and some are impossible or unreasonably time consuming without more people.
The best you can do is grab some players from the reddit to help you through the ones that you need to do the story.

As for PoF? I have no idea if it can be solo'd or not

I hope I answered your question
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>>385878847
Just imagine how the original devs of GW1 feel about GW2. They split off from Blizzard, a handful of guys in a shitty little shack with no AC, working on a game to realize their dream rpg.
And 15 years later, that game's legacy is entirely shat on by this faggotry.
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>>385879835
ok but I remember playing Silverwastes and there were CONSTANTLY people farming the whole thing

is HOT like that? Because I can easily just hitch onto some group
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>>385879703
So it's grind if you don't like it?
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>>385879745
It's not that it's hard, it's that it's FUCKING BORING.
I don't want to do shitty boring busy work

>>385879774
Pretty much, yeah.
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I don't know what class to play.
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>>385879931
Yes.

Despite what that autist tell you, people still play those meta maps a lot.
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>>385879774
>Are masteries actually required?
They're mandatory to progress.
The story can be completed with a limited set, but to 100% the maps you need most of them.
Speaking of grind though, god help you if you want to gear up a Mesmer for raid content.
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>>385867251
Asura are tbe fucking best in any situation.
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>>385879280
I'm torn on FFXIV, I played until level 35 and loved the bosses and aesthetic, but the slow GCD and heavily instanced areas with """cutscenes""" every five minutes made everything not bosses a fucking slog

I keep on getting the urge to revisit it but then I realize I'd be playing an MMO by myself, even if I did love the aesthetic and menu theme
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>>385879703
This is another issue.
I actually enjoy the idea of masteries but the simple fact is that the cost of them is about twice as high as what it ought to be. I'd be happy doing a NG+ with my other toons but the amount of exp from the Maguuma maps, mixed with the spotty instance population and the NECESSITY for large groups in order to complete events makes the whole thing feel like they were designing just for that initial rush of players and no one else.

It doesn't help that some of the benefits of the masteries are just broken, like the Exalted Recall that lets you call in an Exalted friend who does NOTHING (I hear he's supposed to heal and revive but he never does)
>>385879610
Mastery points are the best par of the Mastery system...I wish it was just the points
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>>385878921
>>385879774
You need a few important low tier masteries for the main story, then the rest is all optional.
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>>385880006
But many of those don't take long time to be boring.
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>>385880079
It a shame such slutty races are in a shithole like GW 2s.
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>>385879610

i completely agree.
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>>385880129
As if, getting them is a pain. I can get exp through regular gameplay whereas if I want mastery points I have to grind them out by doing shitty boring shit.

>>385880192
The ones you pick up on the map, yeah that's not so bad. It's still pretty shit but not that bad. The achievement ones are a pain in the fucking ass and take ages.
Fuck those.
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Need a quick rundown on every class's playstyle.
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>>385879610
I like the part where 15k achievement is the new Gear check. Ganna fuck over the new players
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>gw1friends come in here and flame the game
>nobody ever wants to start a party and do shit
;_;
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>>385880448
They are all shit. Each one only has a handful of skills they can use at any given time which makes them extremely tedious to play.
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>>385880440
Without doing any story cheevos you can still unlock all.
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>>385880448
Every class can run every role, in theory (Those roles being Burst DPS, Sustained/condition DPS, Support and Tank) but in a different way, with some builds having a better skill:outcome ratio.

Name a class you want more info on in particular.
>>385880440
I'd like it if you could just earn mastery points through Exp or the activities...it was supposed to replace the skill point system and leveling system but it failed to do either...
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>>385877624

i didnt know these two mentally ill people have a large say in development. thank you for saving me $30. fuck sjws, fuck the mentally ill left.
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>>385880590
All the shit has already been done. Sucks that you missed out.
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>>385880721
Necromancer and Mesmer are the classes I'm leaning towards playing.
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never played guild wars before, can anyone give me a quick rundown.


is this a pvp or pve mmo? i don't really like pvp mmo's that much

also how long would it take to catch up on stuff
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>>385880734
Oh I've done most of the stuff, I just meant doing FoW or something like that for fun
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>>385880726
You might as well see the entire image that needed to be updated.
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>>385880872

Jesus fucking christ.
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>>385880856
Mostly PvE I would say with GW2

GW1 had an absolutely EXCELLENT PvP scene which is a big part of why people hate GW2, the PvP is pretty weak.
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>>385880653
Doing what? Picking up the ones on the maps?
I've already got those and I'm nowhere near done with masteries.

>>385880721
>I'd like it if you could just earn mastery points through Exp or the activities
This.
Fuck achievements and fuck story achievements especially. I don't want to replay your shitty story, Anet.
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>>385879610
you forgot one of the best parts
if you don't unlock the raid masteries by doing a raid the mastery bar freezes and you cannot gain spirit shards from cycling exp in HoT maps
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>>385880856
PVE, though the PVPers try to tell you it's a PVP game because they are cancerous elitists that only want to kill people to unlock everything in the game and the devs refuse to cater to them.
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>>385880856
It a CORPG (think Diablo 2 but 3d) that is focus on Team PvP and boy it does PvP good. It arguably one of the best PvP online game out there. The PvE element was an after thought, but they work on it anyways because they had so much fun with it.

Nowadays, it mostly PvE that you could solo with a team of Heroes. It pretty cool to make a lot of build combination that isn't fucking Discordway and clearing the entire non-respawning map.
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>>385873661
anon, /gw2g/ is being spammed because one of the autists in a /vg/ guild got butthurt
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>>385880839
elite spec mesmer (chronomancer) is fun as all fuck. I built mine super tanky, focus on flat damage reduction, evasion, and hp regen. PvE, fucking nothing can touch me, I can hold down half a dozen elites on my own

at least I could ~4 months ago, I stopped playing for a while
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>>385878515
The concept is fun, but playing one can be rough. They're severely hamstrung in terms of their build diversity- which is saying something considering the nature of GW2- because not only are their first 5 skills defined by their weapon, their latter 5 skills are defined by whatever legend you're currently using. While this does mean that you effectively have double the heal/utility/elite skills on your bar (since you equip 2 legends and can swap between them like weapons), it makes the class incredibly predictable: If you're using Legend X, you're gonna have these 5 skills and nothing will ever change that.

In addition, Revenant really suffers from the "jack of all trades, master of none" problem. Revenant has a legend for almost every style of combat- power DPS, condi DPS, defensive/"tanking", and healing. Only issue is that there's always another profession out there who could handle any of those roles far more effectively.
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Personally I see gw2 more as an open beatemup with rpg elements
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>>385880839
Alright, here we go:
As a side note, most buffs and debuffs are standardized, affected mainly in duration and intensity but never being different in functionality or effect
Necro:

You get a death shroud that fills when things die around you or from certain skills that fill it. You can activate it to have it become a healthbar on top of your normal one, as well as replacing all your skills with a different set

>Burst
Largely done through the Death Shroud, Axe Skills and weakening the enemy's defense. They also punish using the focus, ripping buffs and applying mass vulnerability
>Condition
Mostly through poison and a bit of chill. Poison, as a condition, does less damage per second than others but weakens all healing done by a third. Also corruptions that turn enemy buffs to corresponding debuffs
>Tank
Also largely done through the death shroud, which acts as a second healthbar on top of your normal one while it's active. Minions you summon can take damage from you or just act as target buffers between you and the enemy. Also, vampire daggers
>Support
Wells are the main ability here, which are large and fairly powerful pulsing AoEs that tend to center around a mid-length engagement turnaround, like corrupting buffs or healing quickly or what have you.
>Elite
Reaper turns the ranged necro into a slow but close-range brawler with a greatsword. You can spec this for CC, Burst damage or Tanking. Also changes death shroud skills
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>>385880839

Mesmer:

Summon clones of yourself and give them some basic orders

>Burst
Use your clones to run into the enemy and detonate, doing damage. You also focus on interrupting enemies mid-cast, weakening their defense and empowering your offense. Greatsword centric
>Condition
The main condition of the Mesmer is Confuse, with deals some damage over time and deals a certain amount of damage every time the enemy uses a skill. The main skill type here is the Mantra, which is a little bit like a stored-skill that has to be charged first and then those charges can be used instantly to deal damage or confuse or what have you
>Tank
Your tanking ability is mainly through evasion and subterfuge: you get the enemy to focus on your clones and make sure you're not the target. You also get access to Distort, a unique buff that renders you immune to damage, which can be gained through one of the 4 commands for your clones. You also gain some blink and revive and buff/debuff swapping
>Support
Largely structured around giving random boons and chaos armor, which also gives random boons. You also get various redirection skills that can deflect projectiles or give you stealth or what have you.
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What do I do once I hit level 80? I got 2 boosts (Already wanted HoT but I held off)

Should I just complete all my story and grab Hero Points on the way?
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Real talk, I'm kinda bored of FF14 and WoW and remembered I bought GW2 at launch and never played it past the first month. Is the game worth revisiting nowadays? I dont have Heart of thorns or whatever.
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>>385882295
Do the story, it's something to do.
Do PvP
Get ascended Gear, do Raids with some friends.
Do Living Story stuff (There's a lot now)
Take it at your own pace...just find something to do once a month and do what you feel like, this isn't a hardcore MMO (except the Raids, they're fucking hard and fun and so fucking hard)
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>>385882431
The leveling and exploration are pretty decent, end game is shit.
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>>385882431
It's alright but either go in with an idea of what you want to accomplish or understand that it's just a theme park that you dick around in otherwise.

Without the Expac, you can do the new WvW map or 100% the existing maps or do PvP or craft legendary weapons (supposedly easier now)
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Holosmith looks to be an actual paladin using the light. Hopefully it's purely a offensive style compared to scrapper
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>>385862040
I started watching the video announcement of the expansion, but it started with story recap of what had come before and it seems that Spyro the Dragon's retarded cousin is now central point of story and I lost my interest.

I got decent amount of enjoyment out of GW 2 base game and even the living story stuff, but didn't get around getting the expansion and while I sometimes feel like maybe getting it to play through, I think I'm over this game.

I could use that money to buy all GW 1 expansions and never play those instead.
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>>385882692
>>385882763
Is buying the expansion worth it for basically a brand new player? I mostly just PvE so id just be playing for story and dungeons/raids or whatever.
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>>385882172
What the fuck do Mantras have to do with inflicting conditions?
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>>385883191
For a brand new player? No. Play through the base game and if you get the max level and want more then buy the expansion. Don't waste money on something you might not even like, anon.
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Which class is most like a Paladin? Guardian? Are they good? Can they DPS?
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>>385883327
I didnt know if classes or features or something were locked behind the expansion is all.
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>>385883191
HoT is $15 or so online, its worth it to be able to jump right into the endgame storyline/missions and have things unlocked already for a character. Youre still able to run the storyline on it too, which is nice.
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>>385883423
There are, but you're not missing much. Try the game before you spend more money on it.
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>>385883194
Woops, I got some of those mixed up.
The Manipulation skills (the Chaos branch of the Mesmer) deals mostly with a bit of tank and mostly Condition damage.
The Mantras belong to the Tank tree (Duelist branch of the mesmer) which centers around avoiding taking damage
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>>385882618
Cool, I think I am just going to start at the pre 8- story and do it all.

Burned a boost on Elementalist. Figure I will use it to dick around with endgame and then play with other classes
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what class should i play if i want to be invited to raids?
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>>385883423
There is one class locked behind the expansions (the Revenant) and the elite specs which are for people who want a more specialized way of playing their class are locked.
But otherwise, the free base game is a great casual romp for most players.
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>>385883742
Chrono/Tempest/Berserker.
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>>385883742
Mesmer's and Ele's are the heart of the raiding scene. Mesmers have a higher skillcap but Ele's aren't to be underestimated either.

Druid's are also in high demand but I don't know much about their skill level.
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>>385879896
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>>385883379
>>385883379
>>385883379
Anybody?
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>>385883741
My recommendation is play around with tons of different builds. Choose one effect or one strategy and build everything around it.
That's where most of the fun for me comes in anyways
>Full Banner build for Warrior
>Phalanx Build for Warrior
>Burst Axe Berserker
or my personal favorite: Bleed-em-out Warrior with Rifle, and Mace/Sword for that anime bullet deflection.
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>>385883191
Do what >>385883327 said and ignore >>385883431. don't waste your money unless you try to hit max
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>>385883972
Yes, yes, and yes.
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>>385883972
Guardian, for sure.
You can:
>Set up no-go zones
>Summon magic weapons that just sort of act on their own
>Specialize in support which means giving single-break shields that nullify one attack no matter the damage
>Burn enemies for days
>Use the Dragon Hunter elite spec to become a Quincy
>Punch holy symbols down on the ground.
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>>385883327
>>385883818
>>385884078
Alright I'll give it a shot. Are there any, like, resource websites for learning classes or anything? Since there's no general or anything to point me to them.
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so are there like, addons for this game or shit like there is for WoW?
I'm specifically thinking of a damage meter, i really have no idea which of my builds is more effective than others
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>>385884365
https://metabattle com/wiki/MetaBattle_Wiki
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>>385883379
Guardian and revenant.
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>>385865981
>a WHOLE new class
they were deffo covering Anets asseswith this stupid shit

I hope nobody ACTUALLY reads and believes opinions put out by ""Gaming Journalists", especially the big groups that get paid off to do positive reviews
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>>385877083
Not the other guy but I want to play Engineer as well. Is there a style that involves much less micro management? I don't want to switch from bar to bar to bar mid battle.
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So it's just one guy spamming "muh gw1"
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>>385884365
I mean there isn't much to learn that you won't figure out on your own.
Given that you're limited to 10 main skills, 5 of which are semi-tailored to work together, you basically read through everything on the wiki of the class you want to play and decide how to proceed from there.

So the GW2 wiki on your class is a start.
Reddit also has some guides, avoid everything labeled "outdated"
https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/wiki/newplayers
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>>385884701
LE ONE GUY
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>>385884527
>>385884705
Alright, thanks.
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>>385884705
Do you know where the training pages for the other new elite specs are?
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>FemNorns
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>>385862040
no tengu = shit.
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How do people play as anything other than Humans/Trees?

The hitbox is so big and it makes jumping so hard
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>>385885485
It's already far too late since there are so many armor skins already.
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>>385885842
>hitbox

Anon despite the size of models being different, everyone has the same box
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>Balthazar is evil
Fuck you Anet, I am so glad I stopped playing this mess after 2 months.
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>>385886350
We don't know the full story yet anon.
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>>385886350
Not evil, he's just given up on humanity and pursuing his own interests
He's an antagonist but not all antagonists are pure evil
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>>385885240
Training pages?
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>tfw holosmith made my dick diamonds

FUCKING finally I don't have to play pure condi anymore.
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>>385886962
You know, this thing. I wanted to see the background art from the other professions.
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>>385887248
I don't actually. I picked that one up from a leak a couple months ago
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>>385877464
Because there is no monthly subscription you dont have the "pressure" to constantly play. If you dont feel like playing, dont play.
I've been playing since beta and I have taken several months long breaks, the last time I played was like 5 months ago.
Will be picking up the expansion and playing that content (and the LS stuff beforehand) regardless
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>>385887248

http://imgur.com/gallery/LSXMD
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>>385887248
The character art like it was for the previous elite specs
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>>385870518
I like salad man
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>>385880606
Why are you in this thread?
Fuck off with the tedious 90 fucking skills and skillbars on every corner of the screen garbage
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>>385887660
Whoa, guy, chill out. I'm in all the threads, don't think this one is special or anything.
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Fucking NIGGERS
In MY Guild Wars!?

Fucking Goddamn SJW fucks ruining yet another fucking game.
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>>385883972
Yeah.
t. Guardian player.
Also Revenant is bretty cool but apparently underpowered
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>>385887396
Looks like each spec will grant an associated cosmetic skin like last time (in addition to the ascended weapon of course). I really like the Spellbreaker's turban and the Firebrand's helm.
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You see those warriors from Elona?

They have CURVED SWORDS.

CURVED. SWORDS.
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>>385886826
Serious question - did Balth murder anyone yet?
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>>385887941
GW2 has been an SJW fest from the beginning and GW1 wasn't exactly redpilled either
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>>385870518
Asuras can be cute as fuck if you know how to mess with the sliders. Also being small gives you the impression that you move fast since you run at the same speed as other races. However, this makes norns feel like they're slow as molasses.
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>>385887362
They replaced the pressure to play from monthly subscription to pressure to play from not getting jewed the fuck out by living story episodes unlocking.
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>>385888148
He tried to murder Kas and Marjory, and he's had his minion go out on a rampage murdering villagers in Elona
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What the game needs is passionate human on charr sex
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>>385888330
So he tried to kill the lesbians, now he's murdering Muslims?
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>>385888290
You just have to log in once while the episode is free and there you go.
You dont actually have to play it during the free period
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>>385888247
if I see this fucking rat one more goddamn time.

FUCK OFF. You and the other avatar posting degenerates are literally the reason we don't have a general anymore.
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>>385888406
You know when someone has made the conscious decision to take a break from something, it means they're paying no mind to it. I know it sounds trivial to unlock the episodes but that's not how it works in reality.
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>>385888247
Reminder that nearly all asura are arrogant little cunts
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>>385875137
>Mesmers still don't have mainhand pistols
>Forever stuck using Lyss or Issa
LMAO
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>>385888148
>>385888330
Don't forget his plan to absorb the dragon energies would have probably caused an XK-class world ending scenario.
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>>385888625
Hmm... point there.

Just feeling bummed that what was once a cool God for a background story for a Human character is now an actual villain.
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>>385888535
>>385888419
>implying you wouldn't want to put your dick into one
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>>385888625
Right, he's destructive as the War of God, but his reason for wanting the magic of the Dragons and Bloodstones (an object he helped make to dilute the magic in the world) is still unknown.
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>>385888535
And I wish they had stayed as cunts with shit eating grins rather than being a wholesome and friendly Asura that they reduced the Asuran player character to. The smart asswipe trope that they had going in Gw1 and early bits of Gw2 personal story made me really like them. It's too bad the Asuran protag just had to be eccentric and different.
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>>385888874
kys
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>>385889078
You mean the crippled marysue that fangirl Scarlet that only exist to move the story because the writing is that bad asura. They use to have those tsun flavor to it, but that gone now.
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>>385889201
Whats wrong, anon? You don't like ears?
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>>385862040

Looks like the story is terrible. I expect another disappointment like HoT
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>>385889268
At this point I'm just waiting for Taimi to shout GOTTA BLAST because of the meme loving fucks that work at Anet.
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>>385888838
>>385888974
Oh yeah I'm not saying he went full evil retard, just that he really doesn't care about humanity anymore. He said he was betrayed, perhaps by humanity for some hard to comprehend reason. And the gods have been gone for how many years? Do any of them actually still care about this world?
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>>385888874
No I wouldn't because charr is the superior choice
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>>385889861
RIP both Asura and Charr. Stuck in such a shit game.
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>>385888526
Honestly you're correct, I missed one of the episodes so I'll have to get jewed for it.
But that is literally just my fault, their system is a pretty positive one
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What is more fun, Guardian or Mesmer?
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>>385889951
that looks like a cheap and effective shading style
will save for future endeavors
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>>385890084
It's a really good system in a way where people will praise it on paper and Anet is fully protected from fan rage but the middle ground players will get absolutely fucked by it and under constant pressure.
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>>385890084
>their system is a pretty positive one
Except when you have to pay for something that was supposed to be included in expansion.
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>>385870363

It to mention the alchemy being real is a fuck you to most of the lore.
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>>385889861
Would a charr date a human?
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>>385890084
>a pretty positive one

Punishing people for not playing your game is the opposite of positive. For reference, rewarding people for playing would be positive.
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>>385890373
If said human has proven themselves to be a strong/skilled warrior, soldier, thinker or tactitianer I don't see why not
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>>385890373
The charrs at BC are the type that has sex for fun and if they have a cub, they just dumb them into schools so they can fuel the army require to fight in all four fronts.
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>>385890084
>literally any other game adds post launch content
>players can access it for free at any point, even 10 years later on the game's deathbed

>GW2 adds paid content that you get free IF you show up on time to claim it
>this is somehow okay, it's your fault you weren't there
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>>385891283
Yes, this is call stockholm syndrome. They accept the shitty deal they got, not realizing other mmo or online games do away with that. They stay despite being lied to.
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>>385871345
i only use greatsword on my guardian. always have, always will.
It's the most fun for me and a Norn carrying a huge ass sword just looks fitting.
Also the Koda set looks sick.
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What are the new classes?
>>
I bought Heart of Thorns about 9 months after it came out for 75% off and a fully finished version of it. I plan to do the same for Path of Fire.
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>>385890385
>playing
You literally log in once during the LS episode period mate. Its not unreasonable
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>>385892170
Being forced to log in or miss out on content and have to pay for it sounds pretty unreasonable to me.
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>>385889078
Well, thats the effect of being a hero.
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>>385890263
>>385890306
>>385890385

How is it a pressure for literally logging in once within 2 months
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>>385892560
Not a pressure, but paying for something that was supposed to come with expansion.
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>>385892341
You make it sound like logging in is an ardorous task.
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>>385892560
It invalidates all the players that quit and complain when they come back that they missed content
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>>385892170
>>385892560
It jews new players out of content
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>>385892643
I mean, Skullgirls and GGXrd had limited time free characters.

Also LS are post launch content, it's just that they made them available to be played by people who missed them unlike LS1.

I do agree that previous LS should be unlocked when buying the next expac.
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>>385892651
It is when I don't really want to play. I've got a thousand other things to worry about, I don't rate GW2 high enough to bother with logging in that frequently. Apparently that makes me a bad person so I get punished for it.
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>>385892560
>>385892170
People play other games or got real life. They don't generally pay attention to updates or news about the game. This should have been free all, or at least attach to the expansion as an unlock. This is just nexon tier marketing which it is.
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>>385892752
They have so much missed stuff like LS1.

I do agree though that they should unlock when buying the new expac.
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>>385892560
Why the fuck would you check in once within two months if you are
>ON
>A
>BREAK
from the game
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>>385892926
>missing Scarlet
>of all things
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>>385892926
>They have so much missed stuff like LS1.
All the important stuff from it became Fractals, at least.

>there will never be another "Cutthroat Politics" like event update
>there will never be random event updates that merge into each other after a couple weeks again
Feels bad
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>>385892867
>>385892870
You're not playing a game if you just log in, literally a minute at most.
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>>385893029
Marionette, gauntlets and breachmaker were kinda cool.
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>>385893016
You are not going to fucking play the game. Like literally, you just launch to login and quit.

>>385893029
>>385893065
True enough, but I miss the gauntlet.
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>>385893076
A minute is more than I can spare for a game I'm not actively playing at the time. Why the fuck should I be forced to log in every two months?
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>>385893105
Then again, it tied with Scarlet and she ruins season 1, along with Destiny Orphan and Sky Pirate. It a shit tons of bad story telling.

>>385893076
Okay now you're just being retarded, or a shill about this. People don't generally have the game install when they have a break from it.
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>>385893029
The assault on Lion's Arch and Breachmaker was fun. Queen's Gauntlet definitely needs to come back at some point, though. Just imagine how Anet could update it to deal with two sets of different elite specs and Rev.
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>>385893210
If you can't even be bothered to spend a minute or two unlocking free content you have no right to complain about missing it.
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>>385893296
That's the most retarded thing I've read all day. Congratulations.
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>>385893360
Are you complaining about skullgirls dlc being paid too.
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>>385893360
GW2fags are generally brain damage. They're brain damage enough to kill their own general at /vg/
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I'm mad, I'm trying to create an armored Charr mesmer but every single cloth leg slot is a fucking skirt or a tight normal pant. The top is OK thanks to the dredge dungeon plus chain shoulders so I can maintain the Charr fell of rough plated Armored but I can't have cloth Armored pieces for legs and feets.
The only fucking Armored pants are from the cash shop skins or behind a couple of LS episodes I don't have.

Fuck me.
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>>385893445
Never played skullgirls, but if the devs are like Arenanet in that they promised free updates and then reneged on that promise they are probably pretty terrible too.
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>>385893509
>Charr
Found your problem.
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>>385893509
There are no armored light legs. Actually wait there is I think, but are in PvP or WvW.
>>
>Balthazar a bad guy

This feels like a Fedora tipper idea. Why didn't he just ask us for help?
>>
i wish pvp wasn't a shitfest
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>>385893576
You're only locked out of story chapter and in LS3 map. The rest are inclusive to the update.
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>If you kill the Dragons, the world suffers

Of fucking course. Heaven forbid we just have a straight idea to kill the fucking world ending dragons.
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>>385893826
>kill dragon
>magic overloads
>world ends

What I dont like is that its whisper pandering
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>>385893826
The "lore" writers aren't the best of lore writing. This is the same bunch that says the human calendar is wrong by 5 days and an asura that hasn't been on the surface say that there 360 days and their right.
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>>385893914
Wait. I don't get this.

>Killing a Dragon causes a magical overload

Why not let Balthazar kill the dragons to absorb the escaping power then?
>>
Why won't they release LS1 in monthly rotations or something? Make it instanced it's not like anyone cares about their supposedly living world. Everyone would get their achievement points and content. But seeing skins getting lost in Anet's spaghetti code, I wouldn't surprised if they don't have LS1 content anymore.
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>>385893914
>Play a Warrior
>New Elite is basicallty a guardian/revenant with flashy magical daggers
>God of Warriors now evil
>Whispers and Shadows right, Vigil useless throughout.

Arenanet hate Warriors and the simple hero it seems.
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>>385894020
>Why not let Balthazar kill the dragons to absorb the escaping power then?
H-he's bad. I think I posted the same thing in forums and I still didn't get answer.
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>>385894020
You have another problem

>magic drain

You need equilibrium

>>385894175
Even in vanilla and gw1 so many things suck whispers cock
>>
I just watched the 20 something minute trailer/preview thing and I noticed for the story part it says "Balthazar disguised himself as Lazarus to form a White Mantle army" and then "Balthazar created these living suits of armor to serve as his army."

What? Fucking what? He's a GOD. A GOD of HUMANS. All he would have to do is descend from the heavens and he would have an entire species on their knees willing to serve him. Why is he trying to amass armies through other means when humanity would gladly be his army?
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I thought /vg/ was for video game discussion. Isn't /v/ just a shitposting board that hates video games?
The fuck are you faggots doing back here
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>>385894212
>Balthazar has gone from a god of heroism and bravery to UGGGGH FIRE WAR GRRRR

>God most likely to contact his followers was the one who suddenly hates humans.

I bet it's because he's not a nerd or a gay woman or something.

They hate Chad "Balthazar" Firecock.
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>>385894212
>>385894359
Balth better actually be Menzies or something, I swear to god.
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>>385894359
Because something something BETRAYED HIM something something.

Keep in mind, we have no idea HOW Balthazar is suddenly making a fire robot legion.

Would have been handy when humans were needed them otherwise.
>>
>>385893445
I bet you thought elusive contracts in Hitman were a good idea too.
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>>385894359
And your human character treats him like a big bad the moment he appears even if you chose him as your god when you created your character.
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>>385894420
This.

if Balthazar suddenly shows up, why don't the other gods just to reign him in?

How can I got just walk around the world?
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>>385894625
I bet that'll all be changed to Kormir.
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>>385865981
I'm still mad over how they fucked the veteran players when the game went free and the expansion was the only thing required for the free players to upgrade their account.
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>>385893604
What, name?
>>
how do I make the game fun

i dont know where I'm supposed to farm or what I'm supposed to do
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>>385894363
the /vg/ thread is full of a spambot
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>>385894598
Yes and I already have a winter suit.
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>>385894753
I don't see how that's a bad thing. What you really want though, is Anet grandfathering your veteran status in some form or giving you some free shit like a character slot.
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>>385871543
>hype up a group you'll be part of since the beginning of the game's announcement
>they are all dead now and you have to put up with some lesbian ragtags
Yeah nah fuck off and fuck your shit, not buying anything from you ever again anet.
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>>385894640
We still don't know the bulk of the plot.

>>385894779
Glorious set and whatever WvW is
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>>385894753
Anet only needed to make it so veteran accounts got a discount for HoT.
The only issue would have been to define "veteran".
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>>385873563
>secret world
>made a cute asian guy
>picked a bad class and now either I grind to replace the main stuff or I begin from scratch
Yeah fuck them too.
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>>385895140
You mean this? https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Glorious_Hero%27s_armor
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>>385862040
>SKIMMER
>While they cannot truly fly, they can hover for short distances at a height of several norn, making them indispensable for crossing large areas of treacherous quicksand or sulfur.
>crossing areas
Mounts are simply more bloated grind pits that players must acquire in order to access parts of the map. Mastery trash v2.0.

>Tyrian races kill two elder dragons without any truly catastrophic result
>Balthazar wakes up and wants to blow up the planet to kill one dragon
The human gods, no matter how much importance in-game characters put on them, have done NOTHING throughout the entirety of the franchise. This makes them boring characters. The dragons are elemental forces of nature who only seek to arbitrarily destroy things. This makes them boring characters. Weaving a plot which centers around Balthazar and [Dragon] is the most contrived and boring possible storyline that anyone could have ever made ever--not to mention the plot hole and a half that comes with the green text above.

>Rev (the class that shouldn't have ever existed) gets a new bow-wielding Charr spirit: it's Pyre Fierceshot's no-name, foot-note granddaughter who didn't do shit compared to ending the reign of the goddamn titans
>Thief rifle because stealth, standing still, and ranged tab targeting with lethal-damage DoTs is fun
>Ranger pets still aren't Engineer kits
>inevitable grind treadmill and time-gate walls in order to get baseline content because otherwise the expac would be exposed as 2 hours of content.

CONCLUSION: It's anet/10.
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>>385895458
Yeah
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>>385895118
A fucking discount, you don't give the base game for free, FORCE the people who bought the game to buy the expansion while only requiring the free players to buy the expansion, this is bullshit and this is ridiculous.

And let's not even talk how they locked the "living story" garbage behind a paywall for anyone that missed a chapter.
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>>385895615
>Thief rifle because stealth, standing still, and ranged tab targeting with lethal-damage DoTs is fun
I think it was on purpose just for show, you know that basically every weapon skill can be used while on the move.
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>>385895927
>And let's not even talk how
Too late
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>>385895890
I need to grind spvp then, I'll check later if the light pants is just another skirt on a Charr.

I'm starting to think that I made a mistake by going full armored mesmer, I should probably go for Flame Shaman style to keep it Charr
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What is more fun, Guardian or Mesmer?
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>>385896143
Fun and engaging? Mesmer
This is from someone who mained Guardian from the very first beta, the moment I decided to create a Mesmer I finally discovered the meaning of "real fun class" in this game.

Remember that Mesmer is more of a tactics and strategy class compared to braindead greatsword Guardian which is extremely squishy compared to mesmer.

Mesmer is simply more fun and has better survivability.
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>>385896143
The game is bad, and neither of those classes are particularly fun. You technically press more buttons as mesmer, however.
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Does the new expansion adds a race?
Does the new expansion adds another class?
Does the new expansion comes with HoT?
Does the new expansion gives you some character slots?
How is the current gold to gem exchange system?
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>>385897172
No
No
No, Its $30 normally and it brings HoT to $20 if you bundle it.
No
Same as its ever been, or did you mean current rate.
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>>385896089
I got lucky enough to grab them before they made pvp dailies crap.
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