Worst Console You've Owned

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Ps2. Multiple lasers broke on us and the controller was horse shit. Sticks always got stuck and L2/R2 always broke. Games were great on the damn thing but the design of it was horrendous.

>>385851113
What is the big grey thing?

PS3. Got YLOD several times and the disc reader died.

probs the ps3. got one off some faggot who owed me money and i only ever bought 3 games for it.

>>385851539
AV cord. You'll notice the small port on the back of that big grey block? That was for a custom Xbox HDMI cord since they were deliberately blocking the standard port.

>>385851765
>You'll notice the small port on the back of that big grey block? That was for a custom Xbox HDMI cord since they were deliberately blocking the standard port.

are you retarded? that's an optical port for surround sound. holy shit how can one person be so stupid

>>385851113
Atleast the 360's backwards compatibility wasn't locked to models of the console. I've also never seen that cord in the pic in my entire life so never had to deal with that shit.

>>385851539
An A/V cable. Apparently OP is some kind of shit eating retard that can't figure out how to unplug a fucking cord.

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>>385851113
They made it REALLY obvious what they were up to with the Slim version too.

>>385851765
But if you're using hdmi, you don't need the av cord. Unless you're using an old av receiver.

>>385851113
>>385851765
why would you use a HDMI cable when the AV cord is plugged in? take out the fucking AV cable.

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>>385851997
>>385852041

>why do you need sound to play your games?

Jesus Christ, I never thought anyone would actually DEFEND this maximum Jew practice.

>>385852014
Where the fuck did this cable come from? I have the slim and never had that thing.

>>385851765
>>385852014
>>385852195
Here's your (you). Retard.

>>385852195
HDMI doesn't carry sound? is this bait?

>>385852060
Sound systems. Run the composite cables to your audio setup and the HDMI to your TV, or to a splitter.

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>>385852014

>>385851113
game boy advance
wtf, why did they think that I would NOT want a backlight?

>>385851113
Probably PS3, but its not even bad per say.

Id just rank emm,

Xbox 360>Wii U>PS2>PS4>PS1>PSTV>PSTV

Xbox 360 had the best Japanese games and ran all the console exclusives of the gen better. ps3 had much less games. + xbox 360 was hacked much earler.
>>385852195
No like you can literally just unplug it from the back of the xbox entirely. HDMI does better sound than optical anyway. There is literally no reason to have both plugged in.

>>385852468
Modern sound systems use HDMI.

>>385851113
>SWITCH
Interesting gimmick, no games.

Waste of potential.

>>385852580
game boy
wtf, why did they think that I would NOT want color?

>>385852014
on the slim TOSLINK isnt even on the av connector, there is less of an excuse you giant fucking retard.

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>>385852671
>replace your entire livingroom setup or go fuck yourself

>>385851650
>PS3. Got YLOD several times and the disc reader died.

really ? even my PS4 has had problems due to heat. my PS3 having played like 60 games is still kicking ass, playing KH 2.5 right now. it's the best build quality console ever.

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>>385852317
Thanks. Make sure to buy the Xbox 360 Conversion Kit™ to enjoy both your AV and HDMI ports! Now only $19.99!

>>385852759
you're like those people complaining about having to replace their shitty CRT because 360 game text is impossible to read on it due to HD.

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Never had the issue on the slim PS2 but the original was pretty bad

Wii U. There wasn't a single redeeming aspect of the shit. Legit got a refund three days after buying it.

>>385852671
and you aren't using a 'modern' system? you get fucked in the ass because microsoft needlessly put a piece of plastic in the way?

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>>385852195

>>385851113
gamecube was the worst system I ever own. had to buy a separate adapter for online, couldn't play dvds, the system began having disc read problems for no reason, and PSO corrupted my entire memory card.

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>>385852060
If you're connecting your 360 to a computer monitor, you still need the AV cables to connect to your speakers.

Are all the 360 autism shills in this thread really that stupid?

>>385851113
unplug it and plug in an hdmi cable you fucking mongoloid.

>>385852848
Except we aren't talking about devs having to design assets with certain hardware in mind.
We're talking about Microsoft deliberately blocking a port on their console so you have to buy their proprietary cable.

>>385852687
I mean its about neck and neck with ps4 in games but only like a month or two into its life.

>>385851980
>Atleast the 360's backwards compatibility wasn't locked to models of the console.
So much this. I mean I get ps3s werent powerful enough for ps2 software emulation to a standard sony would support, third party software says otherwise but lets say thats true. Why the fuck does ps4, which as a ps2 emulator on it, make me rebuy fucking games? xbone already has free emulation of 360 discs and now has xbox hueg emulation. Eat a dick sony.

> I've also never seen that cord in the pic in my entire life so never had to deal with that shit.
It's a component cable, for using on early HDTVs that did not support HDMI, it's how I have my ps2 hooked up. Obviously not necessary if he is using HDMI though, hence why they dont care that it covers the hdmi port.

>>385852959
if you refuse to get a modern sound system, then you shouldn't be investing in a modern console.

it's like whining about having to get a HDTV to make PS4 games not look like ass.

>>385852468
use the optical on your tv. wow that was hard.

>>385852724
game gear
wtf, why did they think that I would NOT want battery life?

I'm still not seeing what the issue is.

Dreamcast or Saturn. There's nothing on them.

xbox 360

>>385852671
My how am I supposed to plug the HDMI cord into my TV and my Astros dipshit?

>>385851113
>>385852014
Why would you want to connect the av and HDMI at the same time?

They both do the same thing right?
They both output video to your screen so you can only use one at a time

>>385852959
>>385852759
>>385852468
>>385852060
>HDMI to your TV with audio passthrough
>TOSLINK from your TV to your shitty 1999 AV receiver.
There you go retards. Was that so hard?

>>385853274
>Why would you want to connect the av and HDMI at the same time?

>>385853032
>>385852468

>>385852780
I bought a fan to stick onto the back of my ps4 and it doesn't help for shit. The ps4's fan might as well not exist.

>>385853031
Online on gamecube was fucking horrible to begin with, the broadband adapter was really only used for playing pirated games.

>>385853032
newer 360 models have a headphone jack on the back of the console.

>>385852195
>>385852420
I did this because I needed hdmi to my monitor and optical to my PC for sound.

>>385853297
>buy a new cable so you don't have to buy a new cable
Retard is exactly the word I was thinking too.

>>385853297
What's the point of the plastic cockblock?

>>385853119
>TOSLINK
>A cable that has been around since 1983
>proprietary
You're either a troll or a complete idiot.

PS3 and PS4. Terrible controllers, shitty OS, bad download speeds, 90% of libraries are weeb trash.

>>385851113
360. I've never had a console die on me aside from my multiple 360's. No wi-fi. dashboard went from sleek and functional to advertisement hell ft. miis. moving a hard drive to another console is a fucking nightmare without internet. microsoft points.

had some fantastic exclusives and i spent loads of time with it, but it easily loses to every other gaming platform I've owned

>>385852195
What is this cord?, You only need the power cord and a standard hdmi cord fag

OP is the same retard that claims 30fps is fine and 900p is fine on console games.

Goddamn retards on this board

>>385853156
Pic in the OP shows optical couldn't normally be combined with HDMI on the Elite. There's not an optical port on the console itself. Honestly I feel like the original 360's lack of wifi and subsequent wireless adapter is a shittier money grab.

>>385851113
I've owned SNES, N64, GC and PS2, and Switch. So I've been happy with all of them.

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>>385853529
Right, they gimped their console so you would have to go buy a TOSLINK. That's exactly it.

>>385853616
Circumcised HDMI cord.

>>385853529
>he must've meant TOSLINK :DDDDD
He was talking about the XBox proprietary HDMI cable that included AV jacks. Are you really that stupid or are you just playing dumb?

>>385853673
remember when 360 had official memory cards and then years later they abandoned that idea completely by letting you use any USB stick for storage

>>385851113
>Be Ps3/pc idort all the way trough gen 7
>childhood friend of mine moves out in 2013
>offers me his launch 360 for 30 bucks and Viva Pinata
>alright why not
>set up 360 in living room
>huge ass power brick that doesnt fit in the tv closet
>have to repurpose its position
>have to buy a charger for the controller?
>okay
>buy charger for the controller
>not planning XBL but wanted it connected to the wifi
>i need a wifi adapter
>what
>i look them up online
>they are about 90 dollars a piece
>7 years after launch
>90 dollars for a wifi adapter
how did xbros deal with this

>>385853616
That's the cable in OP with the bulky plastic removed so it doesn't block the HDMI port.

>>385851113
It's this shit that made me realize microshit would never, ever be a company I'd purchase a serious device from.

>>385853616
>What is this cord?, You only need the power cord and a standard hdmi cord fag
It depends on your set up. The cable is optical audio and hdmi. My set up needed hdmi to my monitor and optical to my speakers.

>>385853616
>hook HDMI cord to monitor
>play game with no sound
Good job faggot.

>>385853460
this doesnt involve buying a new cable at all?
what cable would you buy you dipshit?
the argument already involved using both HDMI and TOSlink at the sametime.
>>385853463
on OG 360? probably just overhang, the cable is large and early early Xbox 360 models didnt support hdmi, so they didnt design the cable with the worry of blocking an hdmi port.
On the slim, TOSLINK is not on the cable, but on the xbox itself, so there is no reason not to do so. Probably to prevent retards keep both plugged in I guess?

>>385853751
is this bait? there is no "XBox proprietary HDMI cable that included AV jacks" and there never has been. holy shit you take the cake for being the most retarded person on this board right now.

>>385853849
what shitty chink display you have that doesn't have speakers

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As much as I enjoyed my XBOX 360, it was also my least favorite console. I played COUNTLESS hours of Call of Duty 4 with my buddies. A fuck ton of Armored Core 4, For Answer, V, and V Verdict Day.

Its DVD drive died and refused to open without being pried open with a butter knife. It eventually completely died and Microsoft said "lol too bad so sad, buy our new 360 Slim model"

That was when I built a PC and never looked bad. I only recently bought a PS4 Pro. Leaps an bounds better. 360 controller is still absolute best controller for PC though.

>>385853673
> original 360's lack of wifi
Was a great Idea and every console should fucking do it.
I mean modern routers are pretty good, but lots of people try and play on like the shittiest fucking connections, it was only worse early ps3 days.

>>385853957
>integrated speakers in monitor
>no sound system
Let me guess, you're some Brazilian / Mexican jaja poster with a $200 laptop, right?

>>385854060
if you had a decent monitor, it would let you plug HDMI into it and then also plug in headphones to the monitor to transmit audio to it.

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>>385853905
Okay sweetie, whatever you say.

>>385854060
99% of displays have some sort of 3.5mm headphone jack, and RCA cables are like a fucking dollar.

>>385853965
ps4 pro is like 10 years newer and a few hundred dollars more expensive than a 360. I buy consoles to play exclusives, of which 360 was probably the best system for, its built quality was meh. but you could get one on CL for like $80 not to late in the generation. I bought like 3 for lanning halo. Im tired of being charged an arm and a leg to buy a fucking console, and have them actively fight all possible modding.

>>385853857
>the argument already involved using both HDMI and TOSlink at the sametime.
No it didn't. It argued for having an AV cable and an HDMI cable. Then you autistically shrieked about how the OP should use the TOSLINK he never said he had. If he was going to go out and buy a new cable, why not just buy the 360 conversion cable?

>>385853673
USE
THE
PORT
ON
THE
TV

wow that was hard

>>385854238
>RCA cables
Do you not remember what this thread was about?

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>>385852420
It was mostly to gyp people who wanted to use their HDTVs and use headsets with game audio. Most of the headsets that I've seen for 360 needed the red and white from the AV to get game audio, and the standard MS AV cable deliberately blocks the HDMI with extraneous plastic.
To use both, Microsoft wanted people to buy pic related, but if you weren't an idiot, you could just pry the pointless half of the AV cable's plastic casing and just use the normal fucking wire.

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>>385854284
Or how about Microsoft just doesn't fucking block their ports for no fucking reason other than forcing you to buy new cables to accommodate?
>BUT YOU CAN JUST BUY THIS OTHER THING SO IT DOESN'T MATTER RETARD
Fuck off that's not the fucking point.

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*creak*

The PolyStation. Fuck Paraguay.

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>>385854165
>talks about proprietary hdmi cable with "av jacks"
>doesn't post a hdmi cable
>posts some optional sound adapter
>optional

holy kek.

>>385854238
>have sound system
>forced to use headphones because Xbox blocked audio ports with a piece of plastic
>stupid niggers will defend this

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>>385853690
>>385853751
You mean like how the NES, SNES, Nintendo 64, Nintendo Gamecube, Nintendo Wii, Genesis, Sega Saturn, Sega Dreamcast, PlayStation 1, Playstation 2, and The Original Xbox gimped their system by having you use their proprietary connectors and not HDMI, right?

>>385853814
Why do people not have their audio rigged up to the monitor. Do you have your speakers hooked up to the PC like in the fucking 90s? I have my PS4, my Pi and my PC all hooked up on the same monitor and only need one single audio cable, bc I was clever enough to connect my speakers to my monitor instead of to my PC.

>>385854138
>>385854238
>Plug in a serious stereo systems
>from a 3.5mm headphone jack
You're joking right?

>>385854424
>Microsoft wanted people to buy pic related
h-how much

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I'm not defending the 360 by any means, but please keep this in mind when shitposting about expensive additional parts

>>385854278
yea I know the PS4 Pro is better quality/build etc. I was just completely removed from consoles and their exclusives for so long because none of them really grabbed me. I only started noticing when Bloodborne came out. But I still couldn't justify buying a PS4 for one game. Now I have 4 (Four) games!

>>385853849
>having a monitor without an audio output jack
kys

>>385854542
KEK
one of the best 4chan image glitches I've seen

>>385854408
OP was complaining he had to buy a proprietary A/V cable. You don't, you just needed an RCA cable.
>plug in HDMI to TV or monitor
>use 3.5mm jack to connect to headphones or speakers
Wow, so hard.

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>>385854525
Those consoles didn't have a HDMI port. The 360 does but Microsoft has blocked it.
What kind of fucked up point were you trying to make here?

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>>385851113

Are you me, OP? I worked at a vidya store that gen and everyone I worked with didn't like the 360. Some games it had were fun but the hardware itself was the biggest pain in the ass. To add to your list

>power bricks with different designs for plugs so we'd just have to tell customers to bring their console in lest they waste two trips to get the correct one
>horrendous failure rate in early models
>hard to buff circular scratches from bumping the system
>discs so cheaply made it wasn't uncommon to see them cracked (seriously, it outnumbered every other system we'd see and I personally had games crack after babying them)
>even slim ones had shoddy Wi-Fi that would shit out or work half of the time

I had two systems RRoD and a fan with the Wi-Fi went out on my slim. My 60gb PS3 didn't shit out until years later and I've been using a slim ever since with no issues.

>>385851113
>Worst console you owned
My Ps3. Have a Phat model. Features were just sporadically taken away. Games weren't all that great.

>>385854424
>Microsoft wanted people to buy pic related
shiiet, MS would have won both gens if they did this.

>>385854621
>having to buy a monitor to replace your current high end one because the 360 has a piece of plastic trying to jew you
The fanboyism runs strong.

>>385854284
>Then you autistically shrieked about how the OP should use the TOSLINK he never said he had.
I think you might legitimately be retarded.
the argument was, at least to my knowledge, was that the optical connection was on the back of the av connector, which blocked the HDMI port. And that some people had old receivers or speaker setups that did not support HDMI, admitedly this was me until like 2010. So I used the setup I pointed out.
AV cables are an analog connection. There is literally no reason to use stereo red and white cables if you are using HDMI at all, your tv, or monitor or whatever is better off taking an HDMI signal 100x over, and there is no reason to a DAC if you are taking in an analog connection, there is literally no scenario where you should use stereo cables.

>>385854591
>>385854646

This and this. Why wouldn't everybody just hook up their speakers to their monitor.

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With all the mentioning of laser death it makes me realize that even with switching of parts eventually all my laser using consoles will die off and if generic parts aren't being made they'll be perma dead.

Out of all the consoles I've had since I was a kid, Dreamcast barely plays any games, PS1 suffers atrocious load times till it eventually locks up and can't read the cd, SEGA CD still plays games fine but has longer load times, PS2 is still chugging along but I can tell its laser has slightly weakened. At least with the older consoles you can resolder places where cheap glue dries up or there was bad quality control. Anything past that generation and you're looking at buying an extra console or replacing the entire part which is much more pricey with the latter being unavailable for quite a few of them.

>>385854686
i'm the exact opposite. my slim 60gb shat itself after 2 years and i had to buy a slim to replace it. my 08 hdmi 360 is still running perfectly to this day. the only problem i've had with it was the disk drive needed oiling because some gunk got stuck in the eject mechanism and it would stick sometimes. i've had the same issue with my pc drive but it's an easy fix. i still play my 360 now actually, but haven't used my slim for gaming in about 3 years. it's a blu ray player for me now.

>>385854525
This, almost every single console used proprietary connections. Want component out on a Gamecube? Better shell out $100. If you don't want to get jewed why the fuck are you buying a console? Sony literally disabled installing Linux on their console in a firmware update despite promising you'd be able too, console companies don't give a shit about you.

>>385854427
they didn't. as I explained earlier the cable was designed before xbox 360 had HDMI support and had TOSLINK component and composite on it, so the size wasn't unreasonable. Later xbox 360 models such as the slim, had TOSLINK on the xbox itself, so it was not needed anyway.
I highly doubt microsoft made much money on such a niche adapter.

>>385854832
I honestly can't dumb it down anymore for you. We've just found some vacuum where neither your ability to understand nor my capacity to explain can ever meet.

>>385854937
my fat 60 gb*

>>385854686
The first Xbox 360 game I ever had wouldn't play Battle for Middle Earth.
Now BFME is not a great game or anything, but I tried 3 different BFME discs in the console and it wouldn't read any of them. I was like nope fuck that, what if it has this issue with games I actually want to play.
I got a black 360 (not the slim, the OG model but black) and kept it for years with no issues though

>>385854884
eventually all dreamcast gd-rom drives will become unplayable. they don't make the technology anymore and any that are still remaining are failing left and right, especially if people play pirated CD-R's on them.

luckily, there's a SD card mod out there for Dreamcast that lets you boot games from it. so the console will never truly die out.

>>385854838
dunno if you meant to quote my post, but I have my PS4 Pro plugged into my computer monitor. I have the Sony Wireless headset Gold platinum version or something.

All in all when I walked into FUCKING GAMESTOP I paid around $900 after everything was said and done. The PS4 Pro, Wireless headset, a 2nd controller, a 2 controller charging dock, 4 games, and somehow the QT managed to convince me to get a rewards card or something I nver use for $15/year.

GBA SP. Bought one recently and it's battery is terrible

>>385853031
>Had to buy a separate adapter for online
>System began having disc read problems
Early PS2s had these issues as well, my early model gamecube and ps2 both had the laser go.

>>385853781
>7 years after launch
Yeah old deprecated hardware tends to climb in price for whatever god forsaken reason, only the first couple of shitty models didn't have Wifi, and you probably weren't looking very hard considering a single Google search found over a dozen for $20 just now

>>385854474
that option lets him do what his main gripe is

>>385855009
The cable was still being packaged and sold with 360s long after they had HDMI support and again, having to buy TOSLINK just to get around them blocking the port instead of Microsoft replacing their bulky shit cable is unfuckingreasonable.
Doing it AGAIN in a much more deliberate way with the slim model 'just because' is a load of shit. There are people that could have made use of the two ports at once and Microsoft chose to say 'too bad, look for other solutions'.

>>385854685
That HDMI was made in 2003 and the X360 in 2005. Microsoft was still unsure of the then unproven display technology so using their proprietary cables and proven technology was what they chose to do.Besides it would be a few years until HD via analog via component would be phased out in favor of purely digital HD. You have to look at the timeframe to see what MS was doing. The fact that you can output digital video AND analogue audio at the same time on a PS3 via different cables is still pretty amazing to this day.

>>385855047
Im trying to understand.
I explained how to circumvent TOSLINK being on the av cables.
IF you are using av cables for sound but HDMI for picture, you are legitimately retarded. No if and or buts. If you are using a receiver, plugging in an analog source is retarded. if you are using headphones plug them into the end device HDMI goes to for equal if not better sound, etc.

>>385855102
That's like saying an old cartridge game is a bad game just because the battery died. GBA SP is a fucking great handheld.

>>385855102
playing crystal chronicles on that shit and not having access to the charge port was suffering.

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>>385855343
>Microsoft was still unsure of the then unproven display technology so using their proprietary cables and proven technology was what they chose to do

>>385854532
because i use a soundcard you idiot.

I had two Gamecubes die from disk read errors, thank god Wii's are so common and dirt cheap. I miss the Gamecube GBA adapter though, that was cool.

>>385851113
The Virtual Boy, hands down.

>>385855102
Get a new battery, mine in my AGS101 lasts for days.

>>385851765
That's a digital audio output port, not an HDMI port.
>>385852041
You do if your input device doesn't accept sound through HDMI.

>>385855073

I love collecting for the Dreamcast but that and eventual disc rot tells me I should just enjoy things while they last until emulation is perfected.

>>385855316
>The cable was still being packaged and sold with 360s long after they had HDMI support and again
sure, I have like 3 of them, but they were the same cable. thats why, they just didnt redesign it for the two people who needed it. Ps3 doesn't even come with component cables so I dont get why you are bitching.
>having to buy TOSLINK just to get around them blocking the port
What? using toslink is the reason you needed the port anon, it was on the back of the cable. The fuck do you need component for if you are using hdmi?
>oing it AGAIN in a much more deliberate way with the slim model
Slim model actually fixed the issue, they put toslink on the xbox itself. this is obvious bait at this point. Hence it not being deliberate, because they fixed the issue with slim.
>There are people that could have made use of the two ports at once and Microsoft chose to say 'too bad, look for other solutions'.
A solid 3 or 4, and they are all obviously fucking idiots who should just use their tv speakers or whatever the fuck. They are clearly too retarded for sound systems.

>>385855501
Consider the fact that most PC graphics cards didn't even use HDMI until like 2010. The GTX 280 from 2008 still had Svideo for TV out despite being deprecated for a while.

Wii U.
>none of the games appealed to me when I had it
>UI and operating system are slow
>gamepad required to use device

>>385855510
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
He actually bought a PCIE soundcard. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Also fail to see how an AV connection would fix connecting it to a DAC or soundcard. seriously how would av cables help? they are already analog.

I may not be remembering correctly but weren't the original 360 models lacking an hdmi port? Weren't they added in sometime in 2007? I just seem ot remember that being the case for some reason.

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You people seem to be retarded.

You plug your HDMI from your console into your receiver then you plug your receiver into your TV with a second HDMI cable. The receiver will get the full digital audio signal and pass the video out to the TV. It's not fucking hard people.

You don't use RCA for audio or a 3.5mm jack on your TV unless you're exclusively using headphones for some reason., and you don't need a separate cable just for audio. The fuck is wrong with you people?

>>385853453
>hdmi to monitor and optical to PC

jesus christ, this is an 18+ website

>>385856006
yeah launch model 360s had no hdmi port. I remember it specifically because I brought my 360 to a friends house and couldn't use his HDMI cable. Had to go upstairs and play on his CRT lol.

>>385854546
>launch price: 399
>40 dollar controller charger
>90 dollar wifi adapter
>HDMI cable 20 bucks
>Xbox live 50 bucks
>total of 600 dollarydoos

>>385856078
this + just plug your headphones into whatever the HDMI is plugged into or do this if you have an old as fuck receiver
>>385853297

>>385856006
Yeah, original didn't have it, bricked itself in 2007, replacement had one.

>>385851113
>Netflix, while free on PS3, requires Xbox gold membership to use on 360
Bullshit. You just need a Netflix account. Source: I'm using it without XBL Gold.

>>385856078
>have 360
>use computer monitor as "television"
>plug HDMI cable into monitor
>can't plug AV cables into speakers
>can only listen to audio with headphones
>all because 360 jews its customers who will apparently defend it
Bet you deliberately install DRM on every game you own too, spineless yesman fuck that you are.

>>385856314
A time long ago you needed Xbox Live Gold to watch netflix on 360. That was when Netflix was exclusive to 360 and it wasn't on PS3 or Wii yet. As soon as the PS3 version came out, they dropped the gold requirement.

>>385855989
im not OP with the xbox, i use sound cards to record music for fun, and they do make a difference when playing games.

you audio setup is tacky as fuck dude.

>>385853032
>If you're connecting your 360 to a computer monitor, you still need the AV cables to connect to your speakers.

What kind of ancient budget monitor do you have that doesn't come with speakers?

>>385856360
>Use computer monitor as "television"

Found the retard. Get a job kiddo

>>385856314
They dropped the gold requirement in 2014. Before then, any app you'd already paid for you had to buy gold to access.

why not just unplug the av cable....

>>385856202
>>385853781
I unironically think no controller charger and no wifi were both possitives..
I still use AAA batteries with my xbone controller in my PC and it lasts a long ass time, and when they die I just replace them with the others from the costco pack. the charge on my ps3 controllers lasts like 5 minutes now and I can never find the old micro USB cables, all of which are short as fuck and cant reach my couch.

As for wifi, I guess Im just being silly but people would play ps3 on the shittiest connections, but I guess a minimum network speed and latency to play would make more sense.

>>385856360
Consoles aren't designed to be plugged into monir's, it's only because of HDMI that it's even possible, which was newish when 360 came out. The fucking Dreamcast is the only pre-HDMI console that you could use with a monitor, and that required a converter box.

>>385856526
There's already enough input lag before shitty TV comes into play. Better off using a PC monitor.

>>385856526
>get ass pounded in argument
>"y-yeah well youre a poorfag for combining your pc and console set-ups!"
The sweet taste of victory.

>>385856196
Ah I knew I remembered hearing about that.

I didn't get a 360 until early 2008 so mine had an hdmi port but I didn't get an HDTV until the next year.

>>385856519
A good one? What kind of shitty set-up do you have where you're using monitor speakers instead of a sound system? Fuck me, are you gaming on a laptop?

>>385856592
And if I can recall not all Dreamcast games supported VGA and some had to be activated using a GameShark code.

>>385856592
>"Consoles aren't designed to be plugged into monir's"
>360 literally has an HDMI that allows specifically that

>>385856418
> they do make a difference when playing games.
Unlikely if you have a modern motherboard desu, unless you are using a proper modern DAC, even then Id say it only makes a difference with music.
But you are missing the point anon. They are talking about RCA cables. if you are not using toslink, usb, hdmi, (or in your case pcie.) You objectively arent making a difference. RCA is an analog signal, your soundcard handles digital to analog conversion, presumably at a high quality with good audio reproduction, if you input an analog source it cant do anything but make it louder. it would be pointless.

>>385856660
Get a better TV and put it into game mode, you won't notice the difference no matter how much you try and say you will.

>>385856678
Sorry kiddo, I just jumped into that post to make fun of you, I wasn't the person you were arguing with.

Get a job and do it right or don't do it at all you fucking plev.

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>>385856592
>He didn't have VGA Xbox 360

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>>385856360
>plug HDMI cable into monitor
>can't plug AV cables into speakers
The HDMI has both Audio and Video, you get a receiver, you plug your stereo and your TV into the receiver the receiver will pull the audio and pass it to your stereo, and it will pass the video to your monitor.

You don't need any AV cables and you can listen to it perfectly fine on a stereo. Again this shit isn't hard.

>>385851113
You could just pop off the housing for the grey connector and it would work fine.

>>385856958
>still can't beat the argument
Feels so good.

so OP is a faggot and cancerous /pol/tard looking for an excuse to blame the Jews for his small dick

>>385856871
The 360 didn't have HDMI until later hardware revisions.

>>385856993
>You don't need any AV cables
this is a bit misleading, you actually
under no circumstances should use them on anything but a tube tv, or an analog source such as a record player.

>>385856958
>Game mode
Gross. The image quality gets worse if you enable it.

>>385857123
The argument is 'you are doing it wrong'.

Keep crying kid, you are too poor to have a real setup so you try and complain.

>>385856761
>What kind of shitty set-up do you have where you're using monitor speakers instead of a sound system?

One where I don't use the monitor speakers, but didn't cheap out on the monitor for.

If you're using a console, you don't care about quality anyway, so...

>>385856871
Not him, and I know you're trolling, but I'm going to respond anyway. I have a ps3 and play it on my ASUS VG248QE a 1080p monitor that has a 144hz refresh rate. There is a shitload of screentearing on the system because of the high refresh rate of the TV, something that does not occur when playing it on my SD-CRT. It's painfully obvious that the PS3 maxes out at about 65ish~Hz, if that. Thus his assertion is correct, Video Game and Home Media Consoles are designed to be played on a stock Television, not even on a low class hi Hz monitor.

>>385856993
>just go buy a receiver
You're kind of missing the point. The issue was that the 360 forces you go buy something new. Whether it's the converter to use both cables or a receiver or a TOSLINK, none of it should be required because the 360 artificially blocked you with a big piece of plastic to try and force you to buy more components from them when you already had all the pieces that you needed.

>>385857269
Calibrate your display.

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The only console I've ever owned that went wrong was my Dreamcast. It was a quick fix, but it's the only console I've ever had to take apart.

Most Dreamcast owners have suffered a resetting console. Pic related.

>>385857175
And we're discussing the ones that did. Obviously the complaint about blocked HDMI ports only exists for the ones that had an HDMI port.

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>bought a second hand 360 years ago
>it didn't have a fucking hdmi port

What in the name of fuck? I threw that shit away. That was the last experience I had with microsoft products

>>385857269
You realize that "game mode" on TVs and how regular monitors work is basically the same thing? A monitor displays the input as is, it doesn't change it at all. TVs fuck with the filtering of the image which is what causes the input lag, game mode turns most of that shit off so you get closer to the unfiltered image you'd get on a monitor.

>>385856660
>have high end PC plugged into korean IPS panel with only 60hz and 8ms responce time.
>Have all my consoles plugged into PLS Samsung tv, not even in game mode
>still competitive as fuck in any twitch FPS or online game
Feels fucking good not having autism. I bet you game on some shit 1080p TN panel you paid out your ass for.

>>385857442
No matter how much I adjust the settings it still looks bad. The contrast isn't as high as I want it to be. Could be I have a Samsung HDTV but whatever

>>385856078
Receiver repairman here.

HDMI support on those things WAS sketchy dogshit for the most part of the past decade. It's gotten better but who knows when someone will release some new thing that doesn't work or outright bricks your receiver.

The issue here is that Microsoft went out of their way to fuck with your options. And that's fucking disgusting. But then, Nintendo does it too with their stupid Switch dock and Apple with their Lightning port and so on and so forth.

They're all faggots and you people keep buying their garbage product and nobody none of the engineers for those companies in North America gives a fuck because all the engineering is done in Asia where they have no morals.

>>385856871
Most computer monitors didn't use HDMI then, they still only had VGA and DVI.

>>385856314

They used to require Gold until June 2014. A simple search can verify this.

>>385857401
It only sends data out of one cable at a time anyways. It gives you everything you need, it's not the consoles fault you are some fucking fringe case special snowflake.

>>385857515
just use component. it still does 720p which is what most games are anyway, 1080 is good enough for the rest.

>>385857270
>defending the 360 forcing you to buy more hardware than what's needed
Is this what a literal shill looks like? I always thought it would be more subtle than:
>xbox did nothing wrong
>people should buy shit they dont need
>hail gates

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>>385857224
Consoles are all digital now, HDMI is an entirely digital format, if you don't have a display that can take a digital signal sure, but you shouldn't be plugging your modern console into that display anyway.

>>>385857401
>just go buy a receiver
>The issue was that the 360 forces you go buy something new.
If you have a stereo you almost certainly have a receiver, what else are you plugging all your stereo speakers into? Did you expect to plug a speaker system into the console itself?

>>385857401
>o try and force you to buy more components from them when you already had all the pieces that you needed.
No they didnt, if you dont want a receiver than it is even easier, just use the audio that comes out your tv from HDMI. You guys trying so hard to come up with absurd fringe cases where you need both is proof that there is no money in Microsoft intentionally trying to rip you off.

>>385857401
TOSLINK isn't new, dammit. One came in my shitty Walmart Dynamax knockoff Surround Sound System I bought in 2003 or something. Component and composite video was also out in full force back then. If you didn't have a receiver with a TOSLINK or a TV with Component back then you simply didn't upgrade your electronics as much as you should and thus you probably didn't need to buy brand new hardware.

>>385857707
You brought it on yourself, is this was an underage troll looks like?

Use HDMI, or use component + optical, this isnt rocket appliances.

>>385857750
>but you shouldn't be plugging your modern console into that display anyway.
Yes no I agree anon, my point was you should never use AV cables for anything but a tube tv, or a record player.

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>shit tier screen
>shitty hardware that held back a lot of games
>next to no exclusive new ips like the ds

>>385851113
It's a tie between the wii and wii u. While they aren't 100% bad, they lack a truly interesting and diverse catalogue of exclusives and multiplats

>>385857929
To be fair component works fine with 720p flatscreens. I had a 360 with HDMI but no HDMI cable, so I used the component cable instead.

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i can name four

I had to break off that plastic myself to be able to use HDMI and the standard white/red audio cables separately, since the TV was some retarded cheap shit that couldn't connect external audio sources.

Anyway believe me when I say that the cable in OPs pic was deliberately designed to block the HDMI input so that you couldn't use the optical output and hdmi together without purchasing a smaller cable having one the optical output. It's literally just a huge empty plastic shell if you break it off

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>Set up PS4
>"Give us your real name to sign into your existing PSN account"
>Wft no
>It cancels out the whole sign in
>Sign in again and give a fake name
>"PSN is better with Facebook"
>Fuck off
>Put in Bloodborne
>Wait for install
>"Hey guess what, until you pay our $60 fee for peer to peer, you can't play with other people"
>Whatever, I don't need summons
>Turns out this disconnects completely, including notes and bloodstains
>Play the game
>It's literally just Dark Souls with less weapons
>Return PS4
I've never had an Xbox, but fucking Christ, was it always this bad on that side of the fence?

>>385851113
Handheld: GameGear.
Console: Sega Saturn (note: never imported anything for it and the USA library sucks shit outside of a few ultra rare titles and some semi-decent arcade ports that are now better played in MAME). Shame, controller was on-point.

>>385857972
can't believe nintendo got away with selling a 240p screen in 2017 with the new 2ds xl. for comparison for how old that screen is, PSP from the year 2004 has a higher res display.

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I have NEVER seen this kind of response from people defending a corporation artificially blocking ports to force people to buy custom cables.

The level of sycophantic cuckoldry in this thread is sickening.

>yes microsoft we deserve this punishment, please make us buy more

>>385857707
>trying to plug my ps4 into my old VCR player that doesn't support component
>no cable output on ps4
What the fuck sony!? I need to buy additional hardware to play my ps4 on channel 3?
They are clearly trying to jew me and only did this so I would buy an adapter. Only sony shills would defend this.

Of course I am being a bit silly, connecting devices over cable was actually a thing people needed to do, unlike using analog audio from the source device with HDMI video.

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I'm really confused by this thread.

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>>385856592

I got a 360 near launch. I eventually bought a brand new Microsoft VGA cable since I didn't have an HD set at the time. I used an old monitor so I could actually read the text in Dead Rising, etc.

Do you even know what you're talking about anon or do you just enjoy pulling shit out of your ass?

>>385858117
I use it for my ps2 its great.
But I actually use optical out for the audio since it's objectively better.

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reminder that the 360 won last gen and is one of the best consoles of all time.

>>385857401
>The issue was that the 360 forces you go buy something new.
>The PS4 forces me to buy something new because it isn't natively compatible with S-Video, and my tv only supports S-Video

Oh, and this: >>385858280 goes double for you: >>385858134 you poorfag nigger. In fact, every bitch in this thread that wanted to use both ports and got pissed that Microsoft deliberately blocked them can get fucked.

>>385858473
I told you last thread and I'll tell you again. Blue Dragon was fucking dogshit. Microsoft wasted so much money on that exclusive.

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*Blocks your path*

>>385858537
fuck you dip shit no one gives a fuck about your shitty opinions

>>385858216
I'm not defending anything, I'm simply stating the reasons I see behind it. I personally don't buy Microsoft's products. Even my OS, Windows 7, is pirated. I agree that it is a really scummy thing to do on Microsoft's part but if you can't be objective and see WHY they did it given the timeframe then you are foolish.

>>385858216
>I have NEVER seen this kind of response from people defending a corporation artificially blocking ports to force people to buy custom cables.
Because everyone with a brain knows thats not whats happening. But maybe it was a good thing, even if unintentional, it helps make it retard proof. Cant imagine what setups you guys are trying to do, but I guarantee its not optimal for whatever audio equipment you do have.

>>385858134
>Anyway believe me when I say that the cable in OPs pic was deliberately designed to block the HDMI input
But they were using the same cable before the 360 even had an hdmi port...

>>385858581
no gives a shit about your precious 360 either. that's why you lost to ps3 in the end.

>>385858614
>they blocked the port and sell a cable to access it to HELP you
Jesus tapdancing Christ, that is a new fucking low /v/. I really hope they're paying you to defend this shit. No person should have such a lack of dignity to be doing that free.

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These three.

>>385858216

Convinced it's younger anons that played 360 honestly. If you worked in a game store or electronics section you most likely had a grudge against the 360 due to the sheer volume of bullshit. They were just awful products to deal with.

>>385858707
360 FUCKING WON

>>385857401
no it doesn't. as has been shown in this thread already, you can just slide off the plastic casing on the vga cable and use both hdmi and the vga sound at the same time. i used to use it all the time when i was a poorfag and had a shitty 2006 square monitor. if they were trying to force you to use another cable then they'd have some kind of software detector implemented into the xbox os which detects if you're using the av adapter or a vga cable, but they didn't.

>>385858779
360 won the race, but not the war.

>>385858670
...and so when they put the HDMI port there knowing it would be blocked, and all subsequent cables actually had a plastic lip specifically blocking the port...

>>385852420
HDMI does carry sound, yes.

BUT, most of us would prefer to output sound through optical fiber, which is much better quality, to out home AV receivers.

Someday, you too will be out of mom's house and will be able to have your own home theater in your own house.

>>385858874
360 WON 360 WON 360 IS THE GREATEST CONSOLE OF ALL TIME1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

>>385858216
the only reason ANYONE wanted to use both cables at the same time was for the optical surround sound port but with the slim in the picture you just provided you can clearly see the optical port on the left side which makes the need to use both ports meaningless.

>>385854424
m-moot?

>>385858473
what's the game to the left of project gotham racing 4?

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>>385851113

PS3

>too loud
>hot
>fat
>loud
>did I mention loud?

Had it for 1 day and gave it back. Thank god for emulation. Demon souls all day

>>385852832
... Or just cut off the plastic with a dremel.

You like, like any sensible person.

>>385858959
>BUT, most of us would prefer to output sound through optical fiber, which is much better quality, to out home AV receivers.
I kekked. only true on the most high end of Gold plated HD Toslink cables anon!

>>385858879
>and so when they put the HDMI port there knowing it would be blocked
Maybe so, but it is obviously retarded to claim that the original cable was "deliberately designed to block the HDMI input."

>>385859003
vita isn't so bad after you hack it. plus they got third party chink memory cards for dirt cheap now.

Wii U and 360 were complete trash though.

>>385859065
>the only reason ANYONE wanted to
Sounds like a bunch of posters in this thread alone wanted to use both ports for a different reason.

But keep defending it. Make sure you lick every bit of Microsoft's semen out like a good little cuck or Bill Gates will have to send you back to the shed.

>>385851113
>>385852014
>want to use the HDMI port
>that's why they connected the standard AV cable as well.

>>385859124
Mushihimesama Futari

>>385859147
>of Gold plated HD Toslink cables
You have no idea what TOSLINK is, do you anon?

>>385859137
should have gotten a slim or super slim. they're as quiet as a mouse.

funfact: the slim (CECH-2501) PS3 consumes 50% less electricity and generates up to 40% less heat than the fat.

>>385859137
>>too loud
>>hot
>>fat

just like someone's mom

>>385858959
>Optical
>Better sound quality than HDMI
You best educate yourself my man. Optical was good for it's time, a clear step up above analog, however both optical and HDMI are digital, but HDMI has greater audio bandwidth. Optical has no advantage over HDMI.

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>>385858959
>most of us would prefer to output sound through optical fiber

stopped reading there. most people don't even know what fucking toslink is as is evident in this thread and this is a fucking gaming board where people fanboy over the smallest of details on their beloved hardware. your average 360/console user doesn't use/need toslink so don't go around saying "most" people do.

>>385859202
360 won!

>>385859365
360 won a trip to the dumpster

>>385859182
>you should've actually specified that "the original HDMI placement was deliberately made to be blocked so as to force purchase of a new cable and that subsequent AV cables, while slimmer, would now deliberately block the HDMI port to force said conversion with a plastic lip that served no other function" instead of just saying that 'Xbox deliberately designed their shit to block the HDMI input'
How deep into the spectrum are you?

>>385859221
what reasons? go on, enlighten me about all these different reasons people wanted to use both ports other than for audio output.

>>385859291
it was a joke anon, quality of toslink cable does not matter because it is a digital signal, it either works or doesn't, no in-between. However I was just meming along because the anon was joking about optical being better than HDMI. It's not as fun if you have to explain the joke anon. You see that one is funny because toslink does not support any modern codecs and I iirc carries lower bandwidth

>>385859337
>>385859335

I don't think i've ever seen anyone this stupid on this board

holy shit

>>385859489
360 won!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>385851113
I don't remember having this issue; is it on the original Xbox 360s or Slims? I owned an Elite and used an HDMI cable for video but the AV adapter for my speakers.

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>>385859320

Ayyyyyy

>>385859298
Thats pretty cool. The ps3 was given to me though, didn't feel like I missed out on much

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>>385859551
>read the thread for me i cant be bothered to scroll my phone through all the posts im responding to

>buy a new motherboard
>instead of giving me 6 standard audio I/O ports like any other Dolby 7.1 device, gives me 5 ports and a fucking S/PDIF
>if I wanted to set up 7.1 surround I would need a DAC or sound card
When will this shitty TOSLINK meme die?

>>385859603
This.
Atmos sounds way better over toslink, you should try it sometime :^)

>>385851510
Still have my fat from 17 years ago, works fine. Controllers work fine too. Stop throwing your ps2 against the wall.

I went through 3 fat original Xbox's. The first one died because of a faulty power supply (Microsoft had to recall it). The second one died because one of the capicitors inside leaked or something and it short out the motherboard. I'm on my 3rd one right now and everything seems fine except that disc drive is loud as fuck.

>>385856993
>Monitor is 1440p and receiver have HDMI but not 1.4 so it can only do 1080p
No what?

Just stop sucking M$ ass and acknowledge that we should be allowed to use both outputs just like PS3/PS4

>>385859540
>make a specific claim that the cable in OP's image (which is of the original 360) was deliberately designed a certain way
>someone points out that that's incorrect
>WELL YOU SHOULD HAVE KNOWN I MEANT THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF WHAT I WROTE YOU AUTIST

>>385859137
>>too loud
>>hot
>>loud
>>did I mention loud?
the original PS4 is the same way.
Like, legit too loud for me to hear my TV over it when I play No Mans Sky once every half year

>>385859587
A simple "Yes, I have not clue what TOSLINK is or how it works." Would have sufficed.

For build quality, it was the 360.

I babied that thing and I still went through 3 in 18 months due to red ring, since the ones they sent in replacement were just refurbs with a higher tendency to failure. Let alone that most games it had that were worthwhile and exclusive DEMANDED online play to make them worthwhile, so on top of being both a faulty piece of crap and demanding an annual fee to keep your games as good as they need to be, nope. Stopped buying games for it after the second one went.

Also had my power brick die randomly on it, and they made me pay shipping cost to warranty repair that. Took them a month to get a new one out.

Worst in terms of playtime
My wii u and xbone are pretty close here.
Wii u just didn't have anything I really felt was compelling or even worth playing over some of their older franchise entries, xbone became pointless next to my pc by eliminating exclusivity.

>>385859603
How's the view from mount stupid? The 2 best quality audio things there are right now are DTS-HD Master Audio and Dolby TrueHD, neither support optical because it's bandwidth is too low for their huge ass lossless filesizes.

>>385859732
so you basically don't have an answer.

too easy.

>>385859765
I never understood the point of this desu,
the fuck speakers are you using that have a 3.5mm jack? do they all have a built in AMP?

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>Worst Console You've Owned
probably the 360, followed by PS3

7th generation with its introduction of slow ass UIs , load times and even the games running worse than before is such fucking cancer
at least the 360 made piracy possible. booted some shooter and got on live and it was nothing but 13y/o kids on the mics. it's the same cancer as russians on valve CS DM servers who think it's a voice chat room except I could understand their language. it didn't help.

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>>385859903
>its okay when the ps2 failed and sony MADE YOU PAY FOR A REPLACEMENT
typical sony fanboys, you faggots disgust me

>>385859603
Nice ad-hom, really hid the fact you're wrong.

Optical is objectively inferior to modern HDMI, it can carry a digital signal but it can't support DTS-HD or Dolby TrueHD which are the current standards for multichannel digital audio; HDMI can.

>>385859882

>original PS4

I forgot that even existed. I bough the slim for dirt cheap at frys and marveled at how quiet it was. Except for that ear grating noise it makes when it reads data from the bluray disk, fuck that shit

>>385859540
later models had toslink built in.
thats all that matters full stop period. They probably did that to stop kids accidentally plugging in both at the same time, having the xbox plugged in component and HDMI or someshit. if it really triggers you break it with a dremel, or a scoring knife, or a table saw, or a fucking razer blade.

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>>385859960
Yeah, I'm thinking we're done here. But in my line, I'm used to certain types thinkin' they need the last word.

>>385860008
yeah 7th gen was the first gen to have load times. stupid nostaligfaggot

Any console that had discs but no hard drive to install games to. The load times are so fucking horrible.

>>385859903

Power bricks on the 360 and the Wii were big sellers when I had a vidya job. 360s were pains since a lot of the time we'd have used or off-brand and the power brick cables had different styles.

>>385859882
the inside of your ps4 is either dusty or the thermal paste already dried up. either way if your ps4 is loud now it will die soon.

>>385860010
yeah nah, OP didn't ask for second worst

>>385859879
Do you think the 360 runs at 1440p?

My PS2 had disc read errors, my PSP got a shitty loud UMD drive and the nub wore out, my PS3 died a month ago and yesterday I had to open up my Vita because I had to reset the battery as it shat itself.

Basically anything Sony.

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>2017 The Year of Our Lord
>Using legacy technology like AV cables and then bitching about HDMI

The computer monitor I use for my PS2 doesn't have AV slots, so you know what I did? I went to the local Walmart and bought an AV to HDMI converter and moved on with my life. I didn't go bitch on 4chan about how Sony is trying to fuck with me because I had to go buy and extra piece of equipment for a console that was made before HD became a standard thing.

Hell, when the 360 came out with its second generation console, there were still TVs on the market that only went up to 720p and 1080i was still a thing.

OP is just a faggoty ass troll that got you all, including me, to bitch to each other about nonsense. With a company like Microsoft telling its own consumerbase to just fuck off with "Use the 360 if you can't have a solid internet connection to use XB1" I doubt they'd giver a shit about the one or two fringe cases of people actually needing both the HDMI slot and the AV slot at the same time enough to try and milk them with an extra cable. The amount of money going into trying to make the cables and sell them probably costs more than the amount of money they made off people who are in these fringe cases.

i cant be the only here who has never had a console fail on me right? the worst i would get is when the game freezes

@385860190

terrible bait. don't reply back to me.

>>385859879
Get a modern receiver then. HDMI 2.0 is standard on anything made after 2013

>>385860376
You think the 360 must have a piece of shit plastic block to prevent you from using two inputs without buying $$$ accessories from MS to get it to work?

>>385860313
Now you're reminding me of Sonic Shuffle on Dreamcast. Imagine a 4 player party game where 50% of the playtime was staring at a loading screen.

>>385851113
OP just admit you're a huge fucking retard. Get your head out of your ass.

>>385860010

Wherein that post did he defend sony? I'm sure if you asked that anon his opinion he'd probably bash the old PS2 for it's crappy quality as well, but all you're here for is to start console wars like the faggot you are.

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>>385860184
>They probably did that to stop kids accidentally plugging in both at the same time

Yeah. That's probably why. Not to buy additional microsoft products that were made available concurrently.

>>385859879
>Xbox 360 has max out put of 1080p
>most games however are 720p
>trying to play it on 1440p monitor
Literally what?

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>>385851113
>needs convincing from non gamer who lets vidya rot (and gets mangled by a retard >>385852195) to even try a game

This is literally the most shit of internets occupied by the most ignorant, uninitiated scum imaginable

>>385860574
poeple always shit on the 360 for rrod even tho the ps2 was worse

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>plugging gaming consoles into your computer monitors

They're made for TVs you autistic fucks

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>>385860257
Having to wait up to 40 seconds for a level to load is a breeze compared to crap like this left and right.
faster CPUs are expected to process data much faster but it's not exactly reflected in load times getting shorter, on the contrary.

>>385860010
They actually paid out for that, if you had a fat PS2 with a faulty laser they had to repair and replace it for free or offer you a $50 refund.

Thing is though this came well into the PS3's lifecycle because court systems are fucking slow and next to no one took them up on it when just about everyone in this thread probably could have got a free $50 from sony.

>>385860376
it doesnt support hdmi 1.4 either.
>>385860535
if you are really that upset there is a piece of plastic blocking a redundant port you dont need, but you are incapable of removing it yourself in under 5 minutes, you aren't a fucking man. Move back in with your mom, god knows what you willl do if your toilet is clogged or need to fix a leak.

>>385860668
Yes, that's true. Now stopconsolwaring just because that's what plebbit tells you /v/ is about. Join the discussion objectively or don't join at all.

>>385860668

What was the exact failure rate of the older PS2 models? IIRC the 360 was around 50%. Both were pieces of shit to deal with though in a retail setting.

>>385860481
I take care of my consoles and I still had some fail on me.

PS2 stopped reading DVDs but would read CDs no problem.
Dreamcast would randomly boot me back to the main menu during a game.
Xbox blew up on me because faulty power cord.
Xbox 360 red ring of death after playing Crackdown nonstop.

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>>385860702
>Not having one battle station

>>385860626
if that was true, they wouldnt have made it something you can remove in under a minute. and would of blocked a port you actually need or might use.

>>385860481
the only console to have ever failed on me was my fat ps3. i tried everything to get it working again. fucking piece of japanese trash console. i had to buy a 120gb slim to replace it just to finish off one game. ended up not touching that shit ever again and it became a blu ray media player ever since. my old ass 360 which was supposed to have bad failure rates has lasted me nearly 10 years

>>385860702
I don't have an LCD tv.

>>385860668
>360 rrod
>even tho the ps2 was worse
games have trouble booting
vs
whole console is bricked

find "worse"
86% of 360 fanboys get this wrong...would you?

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>>385860702
>he doesn't have his battlestation set up to game on both PC and console
Normies need to get the FUCK out of /v/ NOW!

>>385860818
I think the 360 failure rate was a bigger blunder. It cost Microsoft over a billion dollars or something to damage control it.

The Wii
However it's a positive experience overall considering I've owned all consoles, don't have any hatred towards any of them and the Wii just simply ran out of games that captivated me by the half way point of it's gen

Mario Strikers sequel when Nintendo fucking give me one

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in hindsight, i should realized that a company at the verge of bankruptcy probably wouldnt be able to put out the most reliable console

>>385860702
There are two TVs in my house. One is fuckhuge and I have no space in my room for it, and also has an issue where the screen is zoomed in and I can't fix it, and generates a shit load of heat. The other TV is smaller but once again, I have no space in my room for it. Both only go up to 720p whereas my monitor can go up to 1080p and there's a spot for my consoles right above it on a shelf. Why would I waste time and effort trying to make a setup for a TV when a computer monitor does the exact same thing for me or even better?

>>385860915
>>385860668
ps2 you could fix yourself though, and had much lower fail rate Im sure. M$ was good with warranties though.

>>385860849
>M-Microsoft would never screw its players over to make a quick buck!
>t-that piece of plastic blocking the port and the adapter they sold to get around it must've been a Sony plant somehow!

>>385860962
wtf is that mouse?

>>385860962
>1 monitor
The 90s were a dark time anon. I didnt get a second monitor until 2007, early wow was truly painful.

>>385860818
PS2's weren't failing particularly bad, but the first generations had their laser become more and more fucked up way too fast.
>IIRC the 360 was around 50%
it was more than that, something like 53-55% in a very early calculation
by now I doubt many early 360 systems survive

>>385851510
I will agree with this one, as great as the library of games were the PS2 was absolutely shit when it came to build quality.

I remember making a good amount of money during high school fixing fellow classmates DRE systems.

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>>385861114
>>385861170
Take it up with Google Image.

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>>385860962
Okay now post your actual monitor

>>385861174
I don't think there's a single early 360 model alive with the original blades dashboard. It's all lost to time.

>>385857572
>Supposedly a repair person
>Being this fucking stupid
Well who the fuck do I trust now

Xbox, the library was good but the fucking disc was always fucked. To this date i'm still trying to open it, the clip trick stopped working.

>>385861074
Or perhaps they didn't want to redesign the standard A/V connector to appease the 5 people this issue affected and wanted to get rid of old stock, instead selling the new cable separately?

>>385861267
>reddit
you cant make this shit up.

>>385853265
buy an HDMI/av receiver.


Toslink is near the EoL and is considered a legacy port.

>>385861368
>to appease the 5 people
Stop your shitposting right now. we already established this actually effect 0 people.

>>385861368
But they did redesign the standard A/V connector. The new design? Comes with a vestigial plastic lip to keep blocking the HDMI port.

But keep defending them. Just making sure you swallow every last drop of semen.

>>385860726
Put SSD in PS3, do the complete installation instead.
The slow load times are because the BD was only a 2x speed BD driver.

>>385857572
>reciever repairman
Thats not a real job.
Unless you are like some minimum wage worker in Onkyo headoffice who refurbishes shit.

>>385858758
It's kind of incredible how little you can read and understand someone's post, then continue to get mad at them, you ever try reading more than a sentence before?

>>385860480
that old stereo is actually just fine to use fidelity-wise, but unfortunately it doesn't support optical audio
AV cables are the only way to get analog out of the system

the retarded part about 360 AV connector is that it serves no purpose. you can just take the gray shell off and wrap some tape around the thing if you care and boom, both AV and HDMI are now usable. I still have one like that around here somewhere.

>>385861537
The original connector was not built with the hdmi port in mind, so when they put out the new consoles they simply kept using the old design until they ran out and then went with the 'redesigned one'

Nice try kiddo, enter the real world

>>385860962
>Those speakers.
It's not like you'll get better sound from those than the built in speakers on the monitor.

>>385860535
How is that relevant to what I said?

I've went through like three PS1's because they all stopped reading discs or was impossible to play FMV games like FF7 because they would skip too much.

>>385851113
lets see, i had an early PS3 that lit on fire from overheat of its own damn accord, that drove me to swear off sony for a generation, fucking portable stoves.
is the PS4 any better or is it still a retarded piece of crap?

>>385861267
That monitor looks kind of big for a 1080p monitor. Sitting so close everything's going to look pixelated. If it's a 1440p monitor the PS4 is going to look blurry since it only outputs at 1080p.

>>385861627
Umm sweetie, he clearly did respond with understanding to his (your) post.

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piece of shit handheld

>>385861908
beats the fucking vita at least.

>>385861537
Because the black 360 FIXED THE ISSUE. The TOSLINK port was no longer on the A/V cable, it was on the console itself.

>>385861364
open the disk driver case and lube things up. seems theres a gear that rewinds a bit too far and stops the tray from opening too. might need to push that a bit as well

..theres also a small magnet in the upper part of the driver case thats used to lock the disk is place by pushing a plastic holder thingy, i snapped that shit in half and it helped too by making things easier on the gears

>>385861580
the HDD the system shipped with was also only 5400RPM.
With the size they were, both 360 and PS3 should have just thrown in a proper 5.25" drives. Bigger, cheaper, faster. Good tradeoff.
But no, let's stick with laptop drives instead, yeah.

MGS4 wasn't the only example of miserable load and wait times though. The whole system is full of them.

>>385854546
>$100 more for a 40gb difference in HDD capacity
That was a fucking scam even then. Bet you could buy an 80gb 2.5inch hdd for like $100 max. I thought consoles were supposed to be loss leaders not apple bullshit?

>>385861837
well fat ps3s were a fireball waiting to happen. they used a 80nm CELL processor in that machine. it was a heat/electricity monster.

PS4 uses way less electricity and generates less heat but if your shit is old and dusty then it's ready to die any moment now.

>>385855520
This, the two GCs i had just wouldn't read the discs for some reason. I'm no dumbass, i take good care of my games, i think the motor just quit. At least the Wii is basically a replacement GC

>>385861351
>repair person
>Being this fucking stupid
Sounds about right actually.

>>385861908
>wear and tear.png
Looks more like "grease and dust"

>>385861993
3ds has better games, but vita build quality shits all over 3ds. nintendo literally use the cheapest components known to man.

>>385852832
>complain about not being able to use two different input types at the same time even though it's fucking literally you just being a mongoloid
Stop being a mongoloid. That piece of plastic is there to stop unusual damage and slow down dust. If you wanted HDMI just unplug the AV and plug in the HDMI.

PSP