Why does the remake look so much worse than the original? Is

>>385841710
If you're a nostalgia fag then yes, the original looks better

entire style is gone and replace with that plastic garbage look of NSMB/3dworld

>>385841845
>original doesn't objectively look better
Just look at that cutscene alone. Having a tree in the way...

>>385841890
this

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they tried to warm us

DISNEYFIED
NON-CREATIVE
NO RISK
EASIER DIFFICULTY
NEO NINTENDO
DOGSHIT

>>385841710
>nintendo will keep redrawing the tree from SM64 forever
>those trees are the most jarring part of SM64's graphics

why do they want to make that the "standard" tree so much? why does everything in mario games have to match the other unrelated games

>>385841997
mario64 ds?

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>>385841951

>>385841997
sm64ds at least added content. Just putting it out there.

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Why are the right screens so dark and blue? It's like somebody slapped a day-to-night filter over them.

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>>385841710

There's a lot that can go wrong with this jump from 2D to 3D

If they can't properly capture the emotions of the original game, then they shouldn't bother at all making this remake. The original was done with a lot of love and attention to sprites, if they just make it for the sake of having a 3D remake but scrape off all the faces you'd see on Cackletta, fawful, luigi and Mario and the rest, then why even bother?

And in all honesty, I'd play Mario&Luigi: Bowser's Minions if it was it own game entirely. There was so much potential for a standalone but i guess Myamoto doesn't give a shit

>>385842591
>3D

But it's not 3D? None of it is 3D. It's all sprites, sprites that are literally so good you cant help but think that they must be 3D.

http://www.siliconera.com/2013/07/03/mario-and-luigi-dream-team-development-prolonged-by-2d-animation/

>>385842578
Probably captured from the eshop. Every virtual console game has that cancerous filter over it

>>385841710
First game needed to exceed expectations to set the foundation for a series. Use of existing assets from the 3DS titles speeds up production time but requires all new things to look good with that.

>>385842591
>There's a lot that can go wrong with this jump from 2D to 3D

It's still 2D you blind buffoon.

gameplay vid please nigs

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>>385841997
the redesign of nessie will never not make me mad

>>385841710
at least mario actually looks like he's puling the rope rather than having it hover to his side

>that shitty lighting on the remake

Holy fucking hell, Nintendo, disable scene lighting and use a global light source when rendering 3d sprites for 2d games for fucks sake.

>>385842340
>>385841710
but it looks better?
in all honesty, both have their charm and i wouldnt mind either version

>>385842591
Cackletta and Fawful look and act exactly like they should.

>>385842983
Have you ever made a game?

>>385843037
I didn't ask for a woman's opinion.

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>>385842340
W-wow Bowser looks huge in this

Let me lay it down for you idiots. The GBA version is the one that heavily emphasizes the kind of art style the devs originally wanted. It complemented the Bean Bean Kingdom and stood out as a different series. The remake is simply Super Star Saga but with the modern M&L skin that is more standard for the Mario series as a whole. It looks nice but either two are good for their different reasons.

>>385843086
>Have you ever made a game?
no, but im taking a unity course in college

>>385841997
Old Scuttlebug > New Scuttlebug

New Nessie > Old Nessie

>>385843346
the new nessie looks gay

>>385843346
>New Nessie > Old Nessie

>every creature should look like a gay yoshi

>>385843373
...it's female

>>385841710
Nintendo seems to think that the Mario series needs to have a uniform artstyle, and somehow sucking half of the personality of the M&L an Paper Mario games by making them look like NSMB is a high priority.

>>385843373
The old one looked retarded an out of place

>>385843373
the old one did too if I'm being honest

>>385841710
Looking at the difference between those two backgrounds fills me with disgust.

>>385843419
still the original has more personality then the second one
It doesnt matter if it is female or male

>>385843242
Who are you calling an idiot when you don't even realize nu-mario artstyle is trash

>>385843437
>>385843448

No that nessie goes with the game.
The 1990s style of mario 64
It goes perfect

>>385843419
The original looks like a female the redesign looks like yoshi's gay lover.

>>385841710
It doesn't. I wish mainline mario platformers looked like the m&l games. Anyone calling this nsmb-esque is a blind retard.

>>385842353
>sm64ds at least added content
The new stars are mostly silver star collection shit, some of the new worlds are alright and the multiple playable characters thing was fucking shit because the game wasn't built around that

>>385842340
>better lightning
>Bowser is huge now
The new artstyle is a mixed bag to be honest, everything looks like its made of clay but some of the areas look much better

>>385843086
>Have you ever made a game?
Please fuck off and never return

>>385842340
New is significantly better here.

>>385844116
maybe if you want mediocre creative direction
Non-difficulty
Non fun
uninspiring looking compared to the original

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How have you not learned this yet? It's been 6 fucking years. We've been over it over and over and over.
3DS games all look like shit unless they're on the 3DS itself. You cannot take a screenshot or record a video that looks as good as the way it looks on the system's screen itself. Wait and see you shit stirring faggot.

>>385843578
>it goes with the game
Not really. It looks retarded.

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>>385841997
if you take off Dorrie's goggles, do the eyes go back to being the ones from SM64?

>>385844346
No it goes with the game.

I do not want every game to look like NEW SUPER MARIO BROTHERS

>>385844183
>Non-difficulty

SuperStar Saga was literally the easiest in the series. If its more like the 3DS games it will actually be more challenging.

>>385844217
Do you purposefully miss the point so hard? I doubt you've been on /v/ for 6 years and still not learned a single damn thing. As evident by your irrelevant attached image. Learn how to crop.

>>385841710
When is this coming out?

>>385844453
I want super mario rpg difficulty.

I doubt the neo games are harder then the gba games

>>385844535
October.

>>385844446
>but it goes with the game
Not really. It looks retarded

>>385844453
>the 3DS games it will actually be more challenging.
I pity your kind at this point. Don't forget to buy the included amiibos to show your support for this difficult version of SS

>>385844550
SMRPG was easy though? The most difficult parts came from having to use a dpad for platforming.

>>385841997
>Didn't even post the worst change

Mario 64 DS was a mistake

>>385844183
That's an interesting way to say literally nothing. Your post may as well be blank, you've strewn together a bunch of words but none of them mean anything.

>>385844653
Question mark
I bet your ass never played that game.

>>385844550
>I want super mario rpg difficulty.
super mario rpg wasn't very hard
>I doubt the neo games are harder then the gba games
every entry after superstar saga is more difficult than it. superstar saga has the most simplistic enemy attack patterns and is horribly balanced to the point where you can one shot a lot of enemies.

>>385844550

Actually try playing them. In Paper Jam regular enemies will take off like 1/3rd of your HP with difficult to avoid multi-part attacks. Whereas in Superstar Saga they hit like a regular RPG so like 1/10th of your HP and they're slow and easy to avoid.

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>>385844741
It'd help to upload the image.

>>385844789
Now in English?

can you just pick any of these games and play? or is there supposed to be some kind of epic crazy plot between games?

>>385844653
It looks not the same as new super mario brothers and that is better then any game that looks like new super mario brothers

>>385844831

Damn I can't believe they made Bowser actually look like Bowser.

>>385844896
>it looks not the same as
Okay. It looks retarded though.

>>385844851
Only some references, each one has its own plot. This upcoming game is a remake of the first one though, so you could start from it either way.

>>385844831
>SM64DS sucks because Bowser isn't a downs syndrome gay pride symbol anymore, it's not progressive enough

>>385844838
Lets not talk about the problem of non difficulty of games and talk about the english language.

Fuck off if you cannot argue your point

>>385844550
>I doubt the neo games are harder then the gba games
So you haven't even played them.
Each M&L is harder than the last with Paper Jam actually being pretty hard at points.

>>385844991
I'm not understanding your point because it isn't in English

>>385844961
What I think the word retarded means is failure to change the artstyle of a game that has been used for a decade

>>385844217
No one is shitting on the low resolution image looking poor when viewed on a monitor, nerd. Things like loss of expression and the change in art style can be viewed on any screen.

>>385844991
>Fuck off if you cannot argue your point
Take your own advice, you've made no point throughout the thread

>>385843145
Dream Team-esc Fawful looks great desu

Have we reached the point where nostalgia and retardation are so blinding on /v/ people pretend Super Mario RPG wasn't a complete cakewalk and Superstar Saga was harder than any later game?

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>>385844831
first they took our rainbow bowser
then they took our rainbow stairs

>>385844831
don't tell me you actually wanted that fugly bowser remade with better graphics.

>>385845153
NOOOOOOO NOT THE RAINBOW STAIRS!!!!!!!! I CANNOT LIVE WITHOUT THE RAINBOW STAIRS

>>385844970
okay, probably going to try one of the ds ones.

>>385845082
>but change in artstyle
It still looks retarded though.

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>>385841710
>Why does the remake look so much worse than the original?
It doesn't.

Why is every thread about this game complete shit? It's the same goddamn arguments every single thread

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>>385845153

>>385845153
other than being on 3ds which is weak hardware unlike the n64 was at the time. And the removal of pre-rendered backgrounds I have no issue with the 3ds remakes of the n64 zeldas. What is this picture supposed to imply?

>>385845310
Most people say to play Bowser's Inside Story, but if you like dark Mario games, play Partners In Time.

>>385841997
They tried to warm us but all I feel is cold...

>>385845415
Meta posting should be a bannable offence desu

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>>385845153
Don't get me started on the 3DS Zelda remakes.

Nintendo completely forgot about atmosphere and lighting in their later years.

64 Bowser had a model that matched the area he was in. It helped too add to the atmosphere; the platform was neon green and the skybox was purple and black clouds and since they couldn't rig the lighting to reflect those on Mario/Bowser, they changed Bowser's model entirely to fit the arena.

In the DS remake, and in the Zelda 3DS remakes, they threw all that shit out the window and presented it in a way that came off flat and bereft of mood.

>>385845635
He's right

>>385843519
green text where I said that bullcrap and I'll correct you on what I meant. I hate the artsyle of nu mario. He became the basic bitch of Nintendo now.

>>385845415
mario & luigi threads have been shit for ages as it's mostly just people whining at this point. occasionally you'll get a thread that actually has people discussing things about the games

>>385843114
for you

>>385845663
The remasters aren't done by Nintendo.

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>>385845663
>they threw all that shit out the window and presented it in a way that came off flat and bereft of mood.

Nice lie

>>385842340
>posting the Wii U version

>>385845521
rainbow stairs are cooler

>>385845415
Why are you surprised? SSSfags have been pretending that every other M&L game is dogshit for years, of course they'll shitpost a remake at full force.

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>>385845663

Looks appealing to the normies

>>385841710
>>385845407
>rope is attached to the back of Mario's head
QUALITY

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>>385845663
.

>>385846059
>>385845432
Why are these ultra wide? Citra FOV/camera hacks or something? They look nice.

>>385841710
Okay but you're not even pointing out the actual issues, the dialogue boxes no longer emphasize a character's mood as well and the actual sprites/models of the characters are not nearly as expressive and full of personality as in the original

>>385846220
>mario just vibrates to move
KWOLTEE

>>385845307
Yeah. That and the stupid decision of making it cartoony.

>>385846223
>Ikana Castle
That's the fucking Stone Tower you retard

>>385844183
>crap my empty argument about the graphics has been opposed
>gotta switch to a bunch of other biased arguments

Seriously, man? You're not just pretending here?

>>385846296
I'm willing to say that can be a temporary thing. Though supposedly this game has been ready for months

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>>385845663

I'm betting you never even played the 3DS games.

>>385845524
started partners in time since it came before that other. well if this ends up keeping my interest, i'll play that bowser's story eventually.

if this god damn r4 wants to work. probably gets like 0,1mm in wrong position sometimes and doesn't read.

>>385846220
You can CLEARLY see that the rope is tied to his left arm, its even holding it back.

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>>385846289

I believe they're panoramas made by someone shortly after the game released. I downloaded them because I thought they looked quite nice.

>>385846746
Are there any of either of the Spider Houses?

>>385845940
Honestly, I wouldn't put SSS that high on a pedestal above the other games. It's good, but I'd say BiS and DT are just as good as it is, since all three have their flaws. Paper Jam and PiT are good too, but their flaws keep them from being as good as the other three.

>>385841710
The Dream Team artstyle is just less stylistically engaging than Superstar Saga's. It's less cartoony, less exaggerated. To point to one small example look at Peach's tears here >>385842340
It's an entire waterfall reaching the ground in the original game, but it's much more subdued in Bowser's Minions. The toads freaking out during the opening cutscene after Cackletta steals Peach's voice is another example of the artstyle being a lot less cartoony/exaggerated and thus being less interesting.
It's not that the art is horrible in Bowser's Minions, but it's just less interesting than the game it's remaking. As soon as SSSDX got leaked I was concerned about exactly this, that it might seem competent on its own but lackluster compared to the original game graphically.

Gonna play an original version on my DSL cause remake will fuck me with tutorials for 10-20 first hours, no doubt.

>>385846932
>not playing it on emulator /w speedtoggle
And that talks about time being an issue.

>>385846932
they made the tutorials optional though, in the original the tutorials were mandatory.

>>385846932
They already added a fast forward button and a yes/no option to skip explanations in the last game.

Educate yourself before you shitpost.

>>385842353
This one's adding content too. A new story mode featuring Bowser's minions.

>>385846932
The original had unskippable tutorials you stupid faggot, the remake is making them optional like in Paper Jam.
Fucking retard.

>>385846861
mario and luigi themselves look exaggerated in the trailer (eyes exaggerating in size when shocked or panicking), same with cackletta.

>>385847210
you mean a minigame?

>tfw I will never be able to play the original on my 3ds because no cfw for 11.x

>>385846932
You mean the game where the entirety of the mushroom kingdom section was a tutorial?

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>>385846850

Nope sorry, the closest is the the outside of one of them in the background of this picture.

>>385846932
>"Do you want to learn how to fight as a pair?"
>"No."
>"Too bad, I'm teaching you anyways."
The original game already had mandatory tutorial nonsense. At least you can actually skip them now.

>>385847217
>stupid faggot
>Fucking retard
Why are you so angry? Are you getting paid for this?

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>>385844183
>>385841951
>>385841710
Christ. /v/ isn't your personal echo chamber and it is apparent that the bulk of people here disagree with you. Give it a rest

>>385841710
>game that was great, with an attractive toony style and great story
>lets try make it more realistic guys!!!! We can call it a remaster and make some more easy money :)

Gaming has lost its orginality a while ago, but they're really taking the piss this generation.

>>385847273
There's CFW on 11.3, it's been there for a while. There are even exploits on 11.4 and 11.5 but they require you to buy shit to do them

>>385841710
>Is there any reason to even play this?
No, but it's a perfect opportunity to play Superstar Saga again.

>>385842353
>new side story
>confirmed new Bros Moves
>new gear
>who knows what else since they've barely talked about this game
You're a dumbass, just putting it out there.

>>385841965
>>385841890
>"HEY, GUYS. I DON'T LIKE [thing]. DO I FIT IN YET?"

>>385847349
I mean Dream Team Shit. This game almost gave me a mental disease.
>wanna me to explain?
>no
>ok, but i will, anyway

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>>385847476
>>lets try make it more realistic guys!!!!

>>385842340
I'm glad I won't have to put up with SSS Bowser anymore. His sprites were some of the ugliest in the original game.

>>385845663
>Nintendo completely forgot about atmosphere and lighting in their later years.
OoT is NEARLY 1:1 and MM isn't less moody really, it just makes more use of color. More emphasis on purples and orange.

>>385847476
>lets try make it more realistic guys!!!!
What. Do you think DK Country sprites look realistic too?

>>385847642
>>wanna me to explain?
>>no
>>ok, but i will, anyway
Wow, just like in Superstar Saga!

>>385847476
>realistic
Jesus fuck leave the basement once in a while.

>>385847985
DTB is undisputed champion in mandatory tutorials arts

>>385848136
Dream Team let you skip the battle tutorials but it had tons of those luiginary works things that they gave you tutorials for.

>>385841997
I will fight fucking anyone who thinks old Nessie is better than new Nessie. Not only is new Nessie more in keeping with the aesthetic established in Super Mario World 1 and 2, it being essentially a combination of traits between Yoshi and Dolphins, but it's also not a fucking amateur hackjob of a model with visible seams everywhere.

>>385847472
?

>>385848271
And fuck 2d stages tho

>>385847749
>OoT is NEARLY 1:1
Pre-rendered backgrounds /w fixed camera.
You can't remove one without the other

>>385848381
i enjoyed them more than bowser inside story's due to the extra variety, also the dream world combat is really fun.

Mario 64 DS is just straight up better than the original, I'm sorry.

Also, the controls are fine.

>>385846220
mario is holding it in his left hand, you mongoloid

>>385846348
That's like saying hand-drawn animation is bad because you'll see animation smears if you pause at certain times.

>>385848489
>dream world combat
Yes, Luigi attacks was fun

>>385848340
i bet you have a tiny feminine jaw and wear goggles

>>385846348
that's a badly taken screenshot that's merged two frames. It's not what the game actually shows.

>>385845153
I think MM3D had some areas that were MORE colorful than the original too. Overall it was a great looking remake.

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>>385850063
>more color = good

>>385850332
The only things here that look worse are the moon and the astral observatory

I think MM3D looks good for different reasons than the original and ultimately it's best to experience the original first because all the feelings you'll get from playing MM3D didn't have as much effort put into them as the original did because they're working off an existing game instead of making a new game.

>>385849430
Nigga my jaw is so large I can't even chew my food, I have to pulverize it with my chin before using my gargantuan underbite as a shovel to consume the resulting nutrient paste. And even I think old Nessie is shit compared to new Nessie.

>>385851580
funny how you didnt address the goggles

>>385850332

The only thing that pisses me off about the remakes are the eyes on the bosses

>>385851720
Muh majora symbolism

>>385851679
That's because I'm blind and have no need for goggles.

>>385845153
The floor actually annoys me much more than the stair changes.

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>>385842591
>The original was done with a lot of love and attention to sprites, if they just make it for the sake of having a 3D remake but scrape off all the faces you'd see on Cackletta, fawful, luigi and Mario and the rest, then why even bother?
Okay, you know what? No. If people prefer the way that the enemies were drawn or whatever in SSS, that's one thing, but anyone legitimately defending the actual spritework itself over some of the later games can fuck right off.

Just take a look at fucking Bowser in the original game. Both his battle and map sprites have these garish, oversaturated color palettes, not to mention they had to edit the latter for the JP release so that they didn't look as off-model. And for all the shitposting about art direction and faithfulness, the color schemes in Bowser's sprites don't remotely resemble his official art in SSS. His face/horns/spikes all share the same shade of orange as his arms and legs, and his eyes are red because who knows why. Hell, there's not even a good reason for this shit. The game was released after the SP, so plenty of players would have had backlights, and it's perfectly possible to work within the GBA's 16-color limit.

Here's what you can get by dicking around in Photoshop for a bit with a different color palette and some minor edits. Uses the exact same amount of colors. I'm sure an actual sprite artist could do far better, so there's no excuse.

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>>385850332
That's honestly cherry picking, there are a lot of areas that look much nicer too.
such as:
>>385846746
>>385846583
>>385845895
and pic related

>>385841997
mario 64 ds happened barely a year after superstar saga

>>385841710
they are just reusing assets,

>>385852354
>brightly lit with orange/purple fog instead of dark and creepy
>look much nicer

>>385850332
The remake is better in every single stance.
You can't win with Majora stick with the Ganon picture from Ocarina to fool /v/ retards.

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>>385852375
>SM64DS happened only 8 years after SM64
>it's now been 21 years since SM64

>>385853009
A SKELETON!
HOW FUCKING ORIGINAL GAMEFREAK!

>>385852259
>The game was released after the SP, so plenty of players would have had backlights

Devs design things for the lowest common denominator. Which is why we got 99% of PS1 games refusing to use the analog sticks as anything but a d-pad. Shit, most devs still design huds around overscan.

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>>385850332

The original Majora's Mask absolutely can't stand up to the remake in visuals.

>b-but it's not 3D! it's still sprites
WHO CARES
IT LOOKS 3D, THAT'S WHY IT SUCKS
IF DKC'S SPRITES WERE HANDMADE, THEY WOULD STILL LOOK LIKE SHIT
THE 3D-LIKE LIGHTING AND SHADING ON EVERYTHING LOOKS BAD
IT GOES COMPLETELY AGAINST THE CARTOONY STYLE THE ORIGINAL HAD
WHY CAN'T YOU GET THIS THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULLS FUCK

Reused assets from DT/PJ.
This truly is a cash-in.

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>>385853510
Holy shit, now THIS is the autism I expect from /v/

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>>385853680

>>385853587
I'd reuse sprites too if I had to draw for eight/sixteen directions without mirroring.

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If Geno is still the arcade game advisor, it'll be the first official render he's had since M&L:SSS

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>>385853510

well ree'd my friend

>>385842340
Okay, so in the opening scene there Peach is actually hiding behind one of the curtains in the background. How is that gonna work in the remake, where they don't reach the floor?

>>385854030
It's a raised platform, the curtains are still clearly on the floor

>>385854030

The opening scene is in a different perspective.

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>>385854030
I thought she was hiding behind the pillar

>>385853823
Ha, you actually think they're not going to change it. Squaresoft was still a thing back then.

>>385841710
Bowletta's tits now in 3d

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>>385854030
>>385854126
>>385854128
>>385854147

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>>385854457
Hmmmm.....

>>385854442
>tfw more jellyfish sisters and cackletta porn incoming
noice

Part of me wants to see shit like Rookie, Bowletta, Chuckolator, and Cackletta Soul now.

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>>385854692
>>385854457
really makes you think

>>385853432
>tfw MM3D actually looks really good but skullkid/moon redesigns look fucking awful
why

>>385854720
>Chuckolator
i hope they make him slosh around since he's made of liquid

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>>385854457
>>385854692
>>385854802

I'm hoping for a superboss in the remake. Maybe someone from SMRPG?

>>385841710
>2013
>playing Dream Team
>love the sprite work and wish Nintendo would stop the NSMB series and continue experimenting with 2D platformers with this art style
You are a faggot, OP. I hate you.

>>385855206
>Smithy out of nowhere
>Geno shows up to help

>>385845663
Colors get darker when you use 3D and the 3D doesn't work particularly well on dark colors.
So if you want to optimize for the 3DS you have to make the lighting brighter.

>>385850332
The remakes are oversaturated and unnecessarily intense on the eyes. It is not at all immersive.

>>385841710
>>385842340
Jesus christ I hate how nintendo switched to 3-d models, they always look so dull and lifeless.

They're making the enemies more generic in the remake. So no weird looking enemies that really add to the charm. The only improvement is Bowser, which is still worse than his BiS sprite.

>>385856172
Calm down with that edge anon

What's with the assumption that Alpha Dream switched to 3D models? Did everyone forget Dream Team and how people were astonished by the detailed sprite work?

>no more angry hammer bros
This is on the same level as removing the red koopa shades in PM.

>>385856676
>astonished
I doubt it

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>>385844930

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He's getting NSMBified, isn't he?

>>385844409
That would be very painful

>it's another M&L thread where Alpha Dream's sprites are so good /v/ thinks they're 3D

>>385854442
The remake doesn't use stereoscopic 3D.

>>385856676
>implying shitposters actually played DT/PJ

>>385856815
Well its true. We had several threads going crazy over Alpha Dream's autistic detail in the sprite animations after the game was announced.

>Should we create new sprites based on the GBA ones?
>Nah, let's just reuse as much as we can from PJ

>>385857041
>NSMBified
Boomerang Bros have existed since Super Mario Bros. 3, and their design has stayed the same, with the exception of SSS.

>>385857041

They'll just edit some shades on the regular Boomerang Bro.

>>385857297
I wonder why though?
Were the other Mario and Luigis in 3D?
It's not like Pokemon where the graphics are so poorly optimized the 3DS wouldn't actually be able to handle 3D, is it?

>>385857827
B-B-B-B-B-BUT
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE MY ARGUMENT

>>385847361
I really hope it someday becomes possible to mod the stupid fucking moon in the remake, nearly everything else looks great to me.

>>385857775
>>385853009

>>385857926
THAT DOESN'T COUNT! SUPERSTAR SAGA IS RUINED!

>>385857852
the other 3DS m&l's had overworlds that were modeled in 3D. this remake is entirely in 2D.

>>385841710
holy balls! thats true. im ok with my original copy

>>385858109
>no new IP
nigga

>>385858026
But that's wrong. Every M&L game is completely 2D.

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>>385858026
You could probably have worked something out.

>>385857714
>we
You mean the same autistic screeching being done over chore simulators like Yokai Watch and Ocean Blue or whatever that 3ds game is called?

>>385857852
They know nobody actually uses the 3D.
Blaster Master Zero is entirely 2D as well despite having multiple layered backgrounds that would've been perfect for 3D.

>>385852703
>>385847573
>>385847217

Fanboy.

>>385847735
Which is weird because only his overworld sprites sucked ass. In battle, he looked goat.

>>385858243
Autistic screeching? What are you talking about? What do those games have anything to do with Dream Team?

>>385858690
He looked just as bad, you mean.