Are you satisfied with the existing graphical progress of video games?

1997 looks better tbqh

>>385826790
A crashed airliner wouldn't look like that bottom picture. The wings would've broken off. It would explode. It would crush and tear. You could not crash a plane as pristine as that.

>>385826790
>that plane crash

Come on now thats just stupid and lazy

>>385827152
good analysis, now take a look at that bridge

>>385827152
>the bridge behind it is perfectly intact

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>>385826790
>FakeFactory
FULLY
MODELLED
CERVIX

>>385827395
FERNS
E
R
N
S

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>>385826790
current year facial expressions can't compare to the 2004 masterpiece that is vanilla Half-Life 2, as in pic-related

Opposing Force is so fucking good

brb reinstalling

>>385826790
Kinda. It's too bad it came at the cost of depth.

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>>385826790
Cinematic mod isn't 2017 tho

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>>385827497

>>385827749
I want to play this mod now. It looks hilarious

>>385826790
I'm not. The games are trying to be as realistic as possible design-wise and it's getting boring as hell.

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>>385827578
Nigga what the fuck.

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>>385826790

No. Stop around 2004 and make everything higher res. I don't give a shit. Most modern games look hideous, so I don't even get to the point where I can even inspect a texture. Meanwhile Max Payne 2 looks fantastic when I replay it.

>>385826790
yeah

>>385828349
his show still exists?

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JUST

>>385828691
>bloom: the screenshot

>>385828691
>the only way to make Fallout 4 look good is to add depth of field, so 85% of what's on screen is hidden by the blur

You should work in game design.

>>385826790
The bottom picture is 2004, not even close to 2017.

>>385826790
Opposing force came out in 1999 you fucking cockmongrel.

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>>385828825
FUCK

>>385826790
That's not 2017 graphics, it looks more like 2010.

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>>385828298
>not fleshing out the full female reproductive anatomy when making a female character's 3d model

what are you, gay?

Consoles are holding advancement back, as always.

>>385829029
lower picture is half life 2, captain literal

>>385827152
It was staged poorly

>>385826790
ferns thread?

>>385829028
those ground textures look shit, no amount of bloom and saturation can hide that.
Also i think you need a bunch of pixels more for that grass, or maybe some AA

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>>385827152
CRASHING THIS PLANE

>>385827226
I wonder if the interior is fully modeled.

>>385829613
WITH ALL SURVIVORS

>>385826790
nope
gfx peaked in 07 with Crysis
now we just have fancier shaders
GPGPUs and ray tracing when?

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>>385826790
yes

Killer7 graphiccsnin Unreal4 when?

>>385829632
I'm sure that model is ripped from l4d and I don't remember anything from inside of plane.

>>385829613
With no debris

>>385827234
>>385827289
What if the borgs built the bridge after the plane crashed?
Checkmate

Source is a shit engine, what's your point?

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>>385828691

>>385827578
>not also modelling a womb
worthless

>>385828349
Who was in the wrong here?

>>385829976
Source used to be top technology 15 years ago, it's just dated

>>385829749
What a stupid thing to say. Even the Crysis sequels, each only a couply of years after the last, are significantly better.

>>385826790
Fake Factory/Cinematic Mod feels like a wank/fanfic project of how this person thought shit should be.
And in a way, it did look better, but the person didn't know how to stage shit at all, decided to make nudity, completely anime-ify several characters (at least it was optional), and they didn't know how to compress their textures to not be 10 fucking gigs.

>>385826790
Of course I am.

>>385829749
IMO games just need a lot of dynamic lighting and soft shadows like Crysis and STALKER to make them cover the ugliness or blandness.

>>385830097
The spic. Dog probably thought that Mexican drug lord was gonna slice his master's head off. He was being a good dog, and then that savage spic kicks the boor doggo.

>>385830098
It was made at the same time as id Tech 4 and was completely inferior to it.

>>385830143
and more lienar and with worse ai.

The prbolem with visuals is that is the only shit they are pushing on now days. AI, physics, performance or shit that actually affects gameplay is set aside in favor for jsut fancy shadding, more detailed models in empty spaces or online.

>>385830098
Source is just goldsrc engine with bloom and havoc.

>>385830361
It was easier to run, simpler to work on, and managed to look extremely good for the time
This is why it got such a huge market slice

>>385827395
fully modeled cervix you say?

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>>385828057

This. I don't mind graphical improvements but it's never used to interesting effect anymore, it's all just to make gritty, realistic post-apocalyptic settings and shit.

Give me a game like Darksiders over Days Gone any fucking day. Throw all the shit on it you want to make it look good but what's important is the aesthetic.

>>385828691
I fucking hate anybody who does this to a game. It does not look good in the slightest, it looks like I've got fucking cataracts.

>>385830587
>>385827578

>>385830680
we need to go deeper

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>>385826790

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>>385829082
Ye!

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hi

>>385830805
>that lod on the right mountain
Jesus fuck what is that.

>>385826790
F E R N S
A N D
B R I D G E S

>>385830097
The owners.

>>385829785
basically guilty gear/dbfz?

>>385830972
16GB of fucking RAM

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>>385830805
you forgot to photoshop that bit

>>385830805
jesus fuck that looks bad

>>385828691
This is literally how they shot the movie War for the Planet of the Apes' conversation scenes

As a fan of film it was an atrocity but I think it's a trend

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>photorealistic games don't exi-

>>385831510
>we want the stroke victim audience

>>385830469
I always liked the pistol model they used.
The one-handed pistol always pissed me off.

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>Fallout 4 looks awf-

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>>385831972
What the fuck

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id say so.

>>385827395
>Fake Factory

Who are the autists who made this shit? I looks horrible.

When new gen came out it was impressive, the new Killzone and the Order game were both pretty.

Then they stopped making pretty games and we've been slipping back to previous gen quality. Doesn't help that PS3/PS4 and 360/Xbone games still come out that get released on both gens.

>>385832605
Different studio, different people. If you compare the 360 version of Crysis and Far Cry 3, you won't be that far off. The difference is that Ubisoft said "fuck it, 95% of customers won't see it" and didn't bother with better textures for PC. They didn't really bother with anything in that game when it comes to PC.

>>385830361
Id tech hasn't been very user friendly for a while sadly.
It's great but so much other engines are far easier to get into through modding or other means.
That's why every Bethesda RPG has a shit ton of mods.

I think the challenge for Valve making or releasing a Source successor is keeping the flexibility and moddability of Source while adding substantial features to make it compete in the modern AAA market.

>>385830097
The camera crew apparently. Someone behind the doggo moved in too close and made it anxious.

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Why is it that a mod for a 3 year old Call of Duty game made by an 18 year old in his spare time looks better than anything these big studios shit out?

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>>385833351

>>385832802
are you a farcry dev

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>>385833351
Source?

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>>385833450

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If people could just understand why good colour theory and god teir bumpmapping makes a game look good, I would be so much happier
Even the same team fucked it up though so maybe it's beyond the reach of retarded devs

>>385833351
which mod?

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>>385833482
No, quake.
Also, the mod is called "Old London"

>>385833482
Did this ever amount to anything?

>>385833543
what mod you cockgobbler

>>385833591
Baked lighting helps too. Mirror's Edge will continue to look great many years from now.

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>>385833878
No
But after Dota 2 got ported over they've been tweaking the map with various nice little details

I want to see what a ground-up source game is.

>tfw the open-world Stalker-esque HL3 in source 2 is probably fucking vaporware

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>>385832802
>almost everyone outside of cutscenes in the PC version speaks like they were in an awful PS1 game

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>>385834142
>the open-world Stalker-esque HL3
Steady on. Sauce.

>>385826790
>Opposing Force
>1997

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>>385826790

No because most of it is fucking photogrammetry, no real modeling and design and artistic direction. Basically, all your games now are about "artists" visiting some national park, taking photos of the bushes and generate models out of it.

I would gladly take more innovative and interesting environments in exchange for resolution and definition.

>>385831972
I know the orange/blue color thing is in almost everything but holy shit

>>385833980
I said right here >>385833864

What's the best looking game out there?

Witcher 3 or Uncharted 4?
I'm talking about "vainilla" versions.

>>385834372
I'm surprised Alice Madness didn't do particularly well. It's like "scene girl's maths textbook: the game". I thought it would be like crack to them.

>>385833980
It's a custom zombies map. I don't think it's out yet though, these are just WIP pics

>>385834290
Some of the different rumors included some leaks that suggested an open-world fps pseudo-rpg approach to HL3

It sounded so good to me because the original concept for the HL games was to be more horror based and that sort of environment could allows them to amp up the atmosphere and make specifically terrifying environments.

>>385833462
Fuck you yankee.
You only bitch and bitch but you never buy the game. We work hard on the game but you cretins just don't understand you idiot! Go eat burger!

Baise toi cochon!

>>385834768
vanishing of ethan carter

>>385834991
I was talking about "bigger" games.

>>385834854
It wasn't a visual novel. Ironically the people who ended up playing the game were people in their 20s who knew who Mcgee is.

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>they still haven't fixed the hand

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>>385834854

Bad marketing. It could have been pretty popular if it had a better trasnmedia strategy from the beginning. All those highschool goth girls didn't give a shit about AAA games at the time. But if it had a comic series or animated show BEFORE launch, it could have gone places.

They probably would have to tame it down in the other hand. It got pretty dark by the end.

>>385834854
>"scene girl's maths textbook: the game"
I doubt those chicks play alota vidya. Still a good game probably do another play through soon

>>385836593
They play Zelda ironically.

>>385827749
>Poison Ivy conquers City 17.jpg

>>385828349
ANGERY

>>385835653
>Dev is too busy playing Pedopgile Simulator:2017 to work on progress.

>>385826790
I don't like how they try to force camera memes like DOF, motion blur or lens flares into game graphics.
I also don't like how they try to get rid of colours / saturation.

Aside from that, I guess it's okay.

>>385834768
For me it's TW3. The most immersive looking open world.

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>>385830805
Why is the hill on the right melting?

>>385836991
welcome to Oblivion

>>385826790
Artistry is dead.
One must limit an artist's palette to see their true potential.
Give them the world--they'll get overwhelmed and only copy/paste.

>>385834768
arkham knight

>>385832537
Autist, singular.
40+ year old german male.

>>385826790
It should've halted around 2005 and we should've just focused on everything else instead

>>385828298
The Cinematic Mod uses models that aren't meant for realtime rendering due to how much detail is in them, such as the infamous fully modeled vaginas

>>385827152
Is this post accurate? Do we have a pilot in this thread to confirm this bold claim?

>>385837729
why was the second panel necessary?

>buy some high res photos
>use an extrusion algorithm to generate 3D meshes

Truly, game artists are the most artistic of all. What time to be alive!

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>>385826790
> Cinematic Mod

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>>385829329
ferns thread

>>385830097
Cesar. He intentionally pisses innocent dogs off for the camera.

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>>385829632
>>385829837

>>385828691
I love making video games look like I forgot to put my eyeballs on.

>>385839783
This screencap sucks. Needs more reaction images spammed, the date, and then "When X did Y happened" in big red text.

>>385834854
I don't think scene girls existed as late as 2011.

>>385837474
You don't have to be a pilot to know that when a plane crashes, especially on a hard surface, the wings break off.

>>385839783
>no fallopian tubes
Dropped.

>>385837474
We do, but he's a spooky ghost.

>>385830593
I need to play Darksiders 2 again.
How come it didn't get more attention when it was released?

>>385826790
>FakeFactory
>This comparison

>>385826790
>>385826932
2017 looks way better.

>>385832678
>great IP
>amazing visual design
>amazing graphics
>amazing sound
>Ubisoft Open World Experience™

It still hurts.

>>385830097
Cesar. If only normies could see what a fucking retard he is.

>>385837101
Not true.
The thing with artistry is not that they are incapable, but if it's something that will meet deadlines and if the budget will cover it.
Game Dev is now a constant trial of 'how good can we make this look in [x] amount of time while still maintaining quality?'
If a copy/paste job will get it done and look convincing, than you better fucking believe they'll do it because it takes deadline time and resources up.

>>385828691
KINO

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>>385841374

Don't forget

>Denuvo DRM

Literally the one reason I will never buy the game even at like $5.

>>385841863
If you're purchasing it, what does Denuvo even do to hinder your experience?

>>385828691
COME MY LADY COME COME MY LADY
YO MY BUTTERFLY

>>385832208
>>385834604
That's what you get when you use the game console to turn the saturation ten times higher than you normally could throught the graphics menu.

>>385827395
is that breen???? wtf??????

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>>385827578
moar

>>385837101
>>385841481

You also need to keep in mind that both the quantity and quality of art assets that it takes to make a game look "acceptable" today have both increased by orders of magnitude over the last 20 years. You can't get away with throwing a 128x128 texture on 16 triangles and calling it a cliff wall anymore.

>>385827395
kawaii/10

>>385841091
because every quest is a fetch quest and it wasn't very fun

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The focus on making games hyperrealistic with 4k+ HD Ultra graphics at 120FPS as a selling point is god-awful
>Games take longer to produce because higher res textures/higher-res polys take more time to produce
>Games can now cost hundreds of millions of dollars to produce
>Games can take 5+ years to come out, 10+ in special cases like FFXV
>Games are churned out yearly because gotta get those franchise bucks
>Big-name studios are too afraid to try anything new/adventurous and resort to recycling their old properties (Outside of companies like Nintendo pushing games like ARMS out)

Stylized graphics will always be better than hyperrealism anyways. If I wanted to look at MoCapped actors I'd rather go watch Avatar

>>385827501
we wuz Gmans and shit

>>385843058
I always think those people who make graphics for movies are skilled enough to make videogames if they wanted to. When engineers make games the results are interesting. When game devs make games the result is balanced and medicore gameplay.

>>385826790
Yes. If we moved back to 2010 and focused on real time lighting, shadows and reflection as well as art style and animation quality I'd be more than happy with the textures and models of the time.

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>>385826790
Meh, IMO there's too much of a focus on resolution when I'd rather have good art direction in a game that runs well. Even major exclusives with first party backing are released sloppy and fixed later because people are OK with that now.

>>385827578

>not modelling her whole internal organs anatomically accurate

Pleb.

>>385838894
for what porpoise

>>385826790

HL1 was in 1998 you fucking retard.

>>385843693
Bloodborne isn't a wholly fair example, DS games have always had shitty performance despite not really looking all that good
Yes I fucking know the textures and bumpmaps are nice but you can't see it without downsampling because the AA is dogshit

>>385843602
>Age of brown and bloom garbage
>More than happy with that
Are you 12 years old?

>>385830097
Dog was extremely cocky due to the owners so he had bad behaviour, Cesar eventually tamed him.

I don't like the out of context meme. It's like laughing at that dumb lie your friend tells everybody and you know it's fake.

>>385844663
>the colour brown is bad
How to spot someone who has no clue what they're talking about.

>>385828691
this is what stuff looks like if i'm not wearing my contacts
>i have -5
>why do people want this

>>385841470
I'm pretty sure normies are always rooting for the animal, regardless of the situation.

I think graphics should have stopped like 8-9 years ago and devs should have focused on lasting artstyles and enabling more variables and active entities and shit in games with better performance.
Even strictly graphically I feel more important things should have taken priority. Good lighting engines are 600000x more important than 4k textures. Shit like water physics, foliage, fog that doesn't just cause fucktons of tearing. Etc. All of that with lower poly and better placement would still look so much better if there's a decent lighting engine.
720p is good enough. Anyone claiming jaggies or muddy textures at 720p is a fucking memelord.

>>385844610
FROM is a crappy developer so there's that but they still had SCE's backing.

>>385846039
Yeah, I mean plenty of games came out for PS4 broken and plenty are still broken, it's just that from has a history of doing it on all platforms so I would use a different example

>>385830805
Nice two polygons rock on the right.

>1997:
>Experiment out of control
>character motivation: self preservation

>2017
>something something aliens took over the world
>character motivation: do whatever random strangers tell you to do

>>385841981

Aside from everything listed here: https://whyisdenuvobad.github.io

Denuvo DRM gave me a whole bunch of shit when I was trying to play MGSV on my laptop in college a few years ago. Ever since playing it my hard drive has run noticeably slower too, probably due to the shitty decryption methods denuvo uses. Plus, steam is already fucking DRM, don't layer two DRMs on one another it's a shitty thing to do, especially since denuvo has been cracked by pirates several times before and only serves to shit on paying customers.

>>385845843
Not true. Normies love him and think they're experts in dog behavior after watching two episodes of his show. His fanbase is huge and rapid like a dog. People usually root for the animal, yes, but this is not the case here because people who idolize Cesar follow his training methods and they have a need to tell everyone that Cesar did the right thing here to validate themselves.

>>385843058
How was all the pre-rendered CG from the 90s any different?

Yeah but the whole shit got reverted in 20 years

Old games were low graphics, high quality

Modern games are usually high graphics and low quality

>>385846682
For some reason I love the "Experiement gone wrong. Save yourself and escape from the lab/base" plot. I feel no games really does this anymore

>>385830097
You chill just calm and relaxed, then have a random spic you don't know come up to you, start pointing at your face and touching your nose, see how the fuck you feel.

>>385826790
bottom is so bland looking

>>385829765
Division had so much potential, it breaks my heart to see how fucked up it has become.

>>385833041
What is this? I love the textures

I'm not a graphics fag. I think a lot of sprite art is more appealing than many modern games.

>>385828349
Labradors are all fucking autistic.

>>385845015
I don't think kicking the dog gets any better in context. You don't kick a dog when it bites you, you grab it by the back of the neck.

>>385827578
>first frame
Thanks for the wank material DOOD

>>385844663
>and focused on ... art style

>>385842493
>>385839783
>>385838894
I'm either having a stroke over here or I've seen these pics posted maybe even in same order in similar graphics thread when someone mentioned that HL2 mod before.

>>385833878
>Did this ever amount to anything?
As far we know cancelled, since gdc back in the day no new updates or even any hint that the project went forward.
Also Turtle Rock got flipped off by Valve, and im 100% sure they were the ones working on it.

>>385834768
wildlands looks pretty good, though the world is a lot more static than either of those games

>>385847440
Player-patched HD Silent Hill

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> Turtle rock studio
Ah yes, Evolve. I remember that games.


It was a really good game ruined by people who didn't know how to play it. Like if you took 10 minute to find the monster you just suck. Fuck that crowbcat video. Because of you, the game has been streamlined a shit ton when it become F2P.
I agree that their DLC police and season pass shit was cancerous as fuck, but the game was so fun, the concept, the graphism, the roster, THE LORE, the monster, the gameplay felt smooth and every character felt like proper character and not copy of each other ability and power.

>>385833678
>>385833482
Not a game or mod.
Its just some assets thrown together into Black Ops 3 engine by some student.
It might become a map for the zombie mod one day, but i doubt it, all you see in those screen is all there is, and over last year he didnt do much more.

>>385826790
>Opposing Force 1997
>Cinematic Mod 2017
This is a good bait image

>>385848421
And literally none of that matters because of the TWO (2) SEASON PASSES FOR DLC

>>385826790
I don't care about graphics. Everything looks the same because my eyes are fucked

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>>385847325
That game is too young to give me nostalgia but it do.
> tfw exploring the city at night with your friend.
>tfw looting with your friend thinking how amazing this game is and will be at end game.

Survival brought a lot of those feels back but i haven't played anything other than that in past few updates.

>>385850441
Fucking nostalgia fags.
The game was a failure, stop idealizing it in your memory.

>>385826790
No, I think it should be more careful and refined.

Devs are too focused on "muh high def graphics" and "muh polygon counts" without putting nearly enough effort into lighting, framerate, dynamic environments, gameplay, or even simply optimizing their goddamn code.

>>385842493
This is how you kill your back.

>>385842203
SUGAR

>>385829028
>that chromatic aberration
>that blurring
>those ground textures
Jesus christ this is a goddamn eyesore.

>>385847949
I also have deja vu on this board sometimes
I thought my pic of the fat guy on his back in front of his computer was kind of obscure though

>>385847949
Maybe because they're all related to the topic at hand?

>>385850710
Stop shitting on others just because your life is miserable fag

See ? I can do the same thing and Im not even that guy

>>385830278
*jumps your wall*
Hola amigo

>>385838894
fuck ferns. you aren't even a real plant

>>385851602
Stop projecting.
Division had both a mediocre critical and fan reception, and while it did sell due to power of ubisoft marketing machine it had the lifetime of any shitty season game.
Why the fuck would you want to pretend there is anything good about it, you can make good memories anywhere, you dont have to idealize a shitty game long the way to excuse them and time spend on it.
Fuck nostalgia, seriously.

>>385835509
whatever happened to American anyways?

>>385851842
Still have to finish it.

Jesus what a shitty uninspired sequel.
Great art and visuals design though.
Same as new Deus Ex, a god fuck awful sequel with great level design.
Both make for some nice screenshots.

>>385851572
Man, sleeping dogs was so good
I've only heard bad things about the new infamous

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>>385826790
>fakefactory

>>385847949
I swear I remember the same, maybe it's a bot or a dedicated user.

>>385852842
Or maybe some users make "4chan?" folders and reuse images?
After all, there is a finite number of 4chan users, and the chances you bump into the same ones without even knowing over and over is quite high.
Stop being an autist, the fact we are anonymous dosnt mean that we dont repeat.

>>385852465
I like it a lot still
Yes the story is shit but D1 was no better
Besides this and technical issues, everything else is tip top

>>385830047
>was expecting this image to crop up in the thread.

Well done anon. Satisfactory work.

>>385853292
Eh, the technical issues seem to have been resolved.
Dosnt dip below 60 fps maxed on my 1070gtx, and most time holds above 100 fps.
The writing, i think its much worse. It reuses the world building of the original without expanding upon it, in fact it tries to pretend those 15 years that separate the games never happened and the world was frozen in time and political situation.
I think the game somewhat works if you play Corvo, but if you play Emily, the Empress of the isles, the most powerful person alive it makes completely no sense.
Dunno what by the game made me think of Wolf new order, a game where great writing is used to string together a set of levels and even manages to do it for Nazis on the fucking moon, while Dishonored fails to justify a single of its fucking levels in any way that dosnt seem completely nonsensical and contradictory.

I think the first sign i thought the game is off to bad start was teh fact they changed Outsider VA from a perfect casting to a "why" one.

>>385854212
>muh 600$ GPU gets 60fps on this triple A game so it's fine
xdddd

>>385828691
Hardcore PC gamer defaults setting:
No bloom
No HDR
No motion blurring
No vsync
No anti aliasing
16x Anisotropic filtering
Grass zero or off

Rest of the settings depends on the liking of the user and sp or mp

>>385854562
I paid a bit over 400$ on release a year ago
Sure, its atop card, but if it can play it maxed and never dip i assume any top card of last few years can do stable 60 with dropped lods or shadow resolution
What toaster you got that it runs bad?

>>385831427
Holy shit how young are you?

>>385855360
Did you not see that fucking abomination of a "movie"?

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>>385851842
Love the design of this game

>>385850710
>I had fun with this one thing, too bad it turned out shit and i stopped playing it.

>HURRDURRR stop idealizing it.


Uhh... You don't know what Idealizing means, do you?

>>385852306
>idealize
You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.

Remembering you had fun with something but admitting it had problems is not even close to what idealizing means.

>>385826790
fucking ferns

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No, I'm not satisfied since ages.

Pic related to me was the apex of graphics, literally perfection.

In modern games graphics are not equally "distributed", you have the massively detailed areas and characters among with low res textures on minor objects and characters, so you don't feel immersed anymore because what the fuck is this shit?

With old games we didn't have such problems because everything was not in ultra high resolution as today...everything was shitty in the same way but we were astonished to see the new developing in graphics on the new generation game...I remember when we were masturbating on the very first screenshots of the jails in oblivion looking at the physics of the chains.

However fuck this, I miss the pixellated magic of PS1/PS2 era games and pc gaming when there were no portings from console.

LucasArts adventure games = the pinnacle of graphics

>>385855912
Yeah, do you?
Your post had any purpose at all?

>>385851009
BABY

>>385855430
I didn't like it very much either, but I'm not dumb enough to think there's anything wrong with its cinematography or with a shallow depth of field in general. It has a place in photography and cinema. Just because /v/ has told you shallow DoF is bad in videogames doesn't mean it serves a purpose in other media you uncultured swine.

>>385856005
I wasnt the one who started rambling on about nostalgia about some shitty tittle.
Also the original poster didnt say shit about it flaws, in fact he called in an amazing game.

>>385854834
>No hdr
>No multisampling x4
Are you poor?

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Pre-rendered 3D graphics should make a comeback

>>385856181
It's more like different strategies for achieving the requirements of art direction aren't developed at the same relative level compared to their ideal.

For example, when the art direction demands a cartoon art style the techniques the devs have availabe make a better job of getting to that ideal than when the direction wants a super detailed photo realistic. In the latter case it's either too difficult or time consuming or expensive to reach the desired look so most devs just stop halfway and release what they could achieve.

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I miss the times when you just had to install the game and play flawlessly.

Nowadays you have to download and install the game, start the game and immediatly notice things that are not ok like

- unwanted mouse acceleration (9 times on 10 you have to change some value in an *.ini file to disable this shit)

- forced v-sync that you can't disable (*.ini file again)

then when you're ready to start, after the intro and first CGI video you suddenly notice that you have low fps when your machine is supposed to destroy that game.

--> open google and search --> millions of threads and complaints about how the game was optimized like liquid shit --> wait X months so the game can get fixed (Forza Horizon 3 anyone?) --> notice how the new "optimization" of the game consisted in the Ultra graphic setting being lowered (console LOD, downgraded effects and textures).

Now at this point the autism kicks in because you don't accept this so you start to look for mods to improve the graphics and you spend X hours searching and installing shit so you can feel better.

Again, when you're ready you start playing until you find the next bug or performance issue that triggers another time your autism since you're not sure anymore if it's the game's fault or your pc has problems, like faulty hardware.

It's a disgrace.

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>>385856181

The perspective in that image is fucking terrible. I'm all for imagination but come on! Some drawing ability can go a long way. Look at the BGs of Solatorobo to see how it's done

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>>385856181
drink this, old man

>>385826790
Someone post that fuckhuge bridge to nowhere

>>385827578
>MEAT system
>make model explode
>see uterus fly
TECHNOLOGY

>>385856648
I love this kind of graphics. I don't know why, but it just has something that attract me.

>>385857865
But I'm only 27

>>385858190
I'm sorry, have my seat please

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>>385858190
>only 27

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>>385858190

>>385856648
I really need a working copy of this game

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>>385852784

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>>385826790
>graphical progress

That is yet another thing that has been destroyed by the existence of consoles. 2001 was a very dark year. It has been 16 years since the emergence of the XBOX and it has been upgraded only twice. Eight years for an update. Fuck consoles, and fuck you imbecilic console gaymers.

>>385856648
Not really, we are slowing getting there real time
Better texture and object streaming like Rage did with megatextures is a start in the direction of no limitations to the assets ou use and how you place them
And with better sdks and engines allows you to import models without much fucker, just drag and drop you can get the same results without the worry for memory limitations
>>385858052
What most attracts people to that style is no polycount limit and actual fucking shadows cast by every object in the scenes
Good lighting will make anything look good

>>385826790
>1997: every two meters there's an interesting, storytelling detail
>2017: every 10 meters there's something meaningless put there just because it "fits"

>>385859168
>2017: every 10 meters there are objects and vetetation popping in

>>385858190
90% of nu-/v/ was born post-2000.

it's really easy to imagine that you're arguing or discussing games with fellow adults due to the anonymity, but most of the users on here are literally children with as-yet undeveloped brains.

>>385859531
>"discussing"

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>>385859123
Consoles date to the 80s though. It's not console's fault that PC mustard race doesn't actually pay for vidya very much. For that matter, looking at steam stats a massive massive part of the PC market is at least as weak or weaker then consoles (tens of millions of people playing on intel igp garbage). For that you'd be better off blaming the rise of the notebook and death of the tower.

Fact is that if there was major market demand for better graphics and more power devs would cater to it. But there isn't, most people can't run it, and then ones that do often take active pride in either pirating or waiting until it's 75-90% off. And the super graphically/physics intense games also cost more and/or take more skill to make. What do you expect anon?

>>385857205
fuck off furry faggot.

>>385859168
more like
1997
>every 100 meters there is one object and you cant help but take notice
2017
>so much shit every step you cant notice shit


Level design only got better, its the gameplay that got worse
Lack of focus and direction is hwat kills modern games

Dishonored 2, new Deus ex and Prey are the perfect examples of 10/10 level design in mediocre games with fuck awful writing and story telling

>>385860813
So many games use bamham vision these days because of all the clutter

>>385841283
>CM
>"better"
seek help

>>385852465
Wait how come deus ex was shit? I know the story wasn't great and was cut in half, but the gameplay was fucking amazing, as the level design, art design and music if not as good as human revolution was still good

>>385861419
>ferns
>cervices
what more could you possibly need?

>>385856648
>>385858052
Same, after playing older games and the RE, FFVII and VIII it's just amazing.

>>385837474
I have a private pilots license and I couldn't tell you what a crashed plane looks like, thankfully.

>>385861641
Maybe not shit, but mediocre.
Bad story, same gameplay.
And what i hated the most, no old characters.

No Pritchard, no AI girl, no Malik, no Sarif, noof that cheating whore.
They all make only sort cameos in dlc or side stories while having no impact on the main story.
It pissed me to no ends.

>>385828691
>forgot to put my glasses on

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>>385826790
No. Late 90s 3D games look beautiful and unique with artstyles that aren't realism and actual color. Also HL1 was 1998 and that screenshot is from OpFor from 1999.

>>385863901
God I fucking love spyro so much
It's not fair what happened to him but at least we have three god teir games
I can't think of a single ps1 game prettier than any spyro desu

>>385831510
-st

>>385862553
I can, unfortunately, and it looks nothing like that. Maybe if it had just malfunctioned on the runway and the landing gear had come apart, but not in that sort of environment.

>>385863901
MGS, fallout, Abe and HL1 hold up the best.
Worms and Duke have amazing core game play but the games them self are way too dated to be enjoyable.
Silent hill and system Shock probably aged the worst.

Also damn, I cant believe how good MGS was story wise for its time Kojima was way ahead of the industry when it comes action games, he matched the rpg games of the time while other devs shat on narratives in bigger games.

>>385833351
are you kidding me?
In highschool back in 2005 I made maps for HL2. The maps I made actually shocked people. They thought they were photos. Compared to vanilla HL2, my maps were leagues better.

The thing is, I made very very small maps and packed as much fucking time and detail as I could. I didn't have to run them on any computer other than my own.

>>385837474
All the pilots that have experienced a crashed plane have unfortunately passed away
what a coincidence...

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>>385865128
>Worms and Duke have amazing core game play but the games them self are way too dated to be enjoyable.

>>385865384
Even for its time duke got shit for being dated.

>>385847949
That's so weird, i've never ever seen the same content posted multiple times on this board.
perhaps you've come from some alternate reality?

>>385827152
i'm a pilot and ive crashed over 100 planes, youre 100% wrong

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>>385865482
>way too dated to be enjoyable
is not the same as
>dated

>>385837474
Uh, it's common sense.

>>385865681
Maybe for you,
But i find it much more enjoyable replaying hl1 than trying to play duke again.
And i mean they feel like games 10 years apart in that regard.

Actually i think Doom holds up better than Duke.

>>385866028
HL is more fun than duke, yeah, but that's because HL was the absolute cutting edge
It's still better polished and better balanced than plenty of games out now, although that's not a massive achievement
HL really hasn't dated at all in any way other than its graphics, so I don't really feel as though it's really a fair comparison - like, very few if any games are close to it in terms of quality

>>385847179
You might want to check out Prey, the new one.
If you love that type of premise, and System Shock/Bioshock type gameplay, you'll probably like it.

>>385856960
The reason is lazy console ports.

>>385830805
cuckrim didnt age well
awful lods and swiss cheese lakes

>>385830047
kek

I haven't cared about graphics since I was 13

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>>385830593

>>385867515
>two seperate stalker screenshots
>both are modded to make them darker and more gay
hmm yes

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Good technical and art design trumps all.

>>385867398
Is that why there aren't as many graphics threads compared to last year?

>>385866361
I think whats giving hl1 the edge is the narrative exposition not the polish itself.
Its the continuous flow of gameplay that tries to balance game play with level design and, while simple for its time, story telling.
Duke got popular on what it did with the Build engine, but in that time games like blood and other all tried to really push it.

>>385867798
What game?
Looks old, isnt cemu a wii emulator?

>>385836938
Link to this simulator they're working on?

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>>385867974

>>385867974
You can literally see the tentacles on the character, what do you think it is?

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>>385827578
thanks m8, have a fun vacation

>>385868151
Some porn game?
Splatoon?
But didnrt it come out in last few years, that looks like a gamecube, early ps3 game upscaled.

>>385862603
Oh okay I see what you mean, yea I guess it lack past characters. The gameplay was better though. More active Aug in battle, etc.

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>>385828349
>random spic the dog has never seen bops him on the nose while a camera is two feet behind his head
>dog retaliates
>GOD WHY IS THIS DOG SO VIOLENT JESUS CHRIST BETTER KICK HIM AND HAVE HIM PUT DOWN

>>385836872
back 2 facebook mr dil de la do-ggo

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>>385867659
whoa... so... much... color.. and... vibrance... wow...

>>385852465
I'm on the same boat, I just can't bring myself to finish either despite enjoying the good majority I've played of both, and I'm pretty close to finishing them too. At the risk of sounding like a massive faggot they just feel so souless and bland. The fact that they decided to double down on the retarded racism parallels that don't work in MD, which was already the worst thing about HR, doesn't really help my enthusiasm for it either.

In Dishonored's case I just can't bring myself to care about the setting or the villains, and I'm not too big on how much more black and white the lethal/non-lethal elimination options for the assassination targets are this time around are. All in all a lot of small issues that just sort of build up and make me not care for it as much.

Damn same.

>>385867515
>Mad Max screenshot
This game is 90% yellow, orange and blue, the fuck are you talking about?

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>>385868753
A lot more than the screens there showed
metro and stalker also have the excuse of being in russia/ukraine, both grey dreary shiteholes

>>385826790
This is what 9/11 truthers think a plane crash looks like.

>>385826790
>that skybox on top pic
How was that acceptable on PC when Super Mario 64 did a better job on a FUCKING Nintendo 64 in 1996?

>>385831918
kek

>>385867515
But mad max was beautiful

>>385856960
Forza Horizon 3 did this worse than any other game ever, by FAR. It actually used to have really nice graphics, and now it looks like a fucking 360 game

>>385869259
m-muh steel beams!

>>385827152
it was out of fuel dumbass

>>385867515
>a biological post-apocalypse game
vs
>a bunch of games where the world got cauterized in nuclear fire

>>385865384
>way too dated to be enjoyable

haha haha wut?

>>385856960
You didn't play computer games before 2000, did you?

>>385868806
Man, wait till you get to the end of DE, then you can talk about disappointment.
The plot trips on its legs hits its face on the floor and dies in the most embarrassing abrupt manner you can imagine.

Dishnored 2 makes me wish they actually tried to play in the fact you play as the most influential people in the world into the game..
Like imagine having your head of spy network feeding you info before missions isntead of random board with new clips, and having your army officers give you access to any weapon you want pre assassination with potential back up if you fuck up somewhere that could give you another chance instead of some random no name ship owned with no hand and eye.
How about helping free your main general to lead your navy fleet in a full scale invasion waiting at the sea just outside of the dukes watchers instead off looking for some no name Doctor.
Maybe have some citizens you meet welcome you as the true empress, or the royal hero instead of running around in panic mode like broken bots.
Man, i just diont see any attempts at trying to combine the premise with the gameplay.

An Empress of most of the world on the run from traitors my ass. My like a random fucking no name with no friends on a random sight sighing trip with occasional assassinations.

>>385870498
lurk moar retard

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>>385831510

>>385869283
Here, I'll run through the argument for you so you don't actually have to type anything:
>"The Last of Us is a movie game!"
>Then why does it only have 1.5 hours of cutscenes, less than games like Bayonetta?
>"Because muh exploration sections, muh puzzle sections!"
>So gameplay suddenly isn't gameplay when you don't like the game it's in?
>"No, they count as cutscenes unless they're in something like Half-Life, then they're totally gameplay! TLoU is just a 'cinematic experience' lmao"
>How does it have a still active multiplayer mode if it doesn't have any gameplay?
>"W-w-w-well it's shitty gameplay!"
Every time.

>>385856648
Where can I find more of this?

>>385870869
>arguing with yourself, and managing to lose the argument
Good job, I really didn't need to type anything

>>385866361
Halo is more fun than half life

>>385871107
fuck off halobabby

>>385871107
>Halo is more fun than half life
lel
ironic shitposting shit have its limits

>>385871205
>>385871151
>>>/vr/

>>385830097
Dog. Literally shit tier animals.

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>>385871803
My commendable negro

>>385871803
All animals are shit.Dogs are literally made to be around people.

>>385826790
More than. I would be fine if we stopped around MGS3.

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>>385872053
Nope. Literally savage wolves at heart. They are incapable of fending for themselves. True American pets are independent with the ability to also be compassionate to others.

>>385872164
I don't like dogs but Pitbulls are literally the savage congo niggers of dogs

>>385839783
can you clip through the model to see it?

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>>385827226
you might say it's... plane stupid

>>385856648
who the fuck would live here?
A single stumble and lol whoops dead
or broken planks or something
where did they even get the wood from

0/10 myst was better

>>385826790
you should've taken a game from 2007-2013. i guarantee you all of them would look worse.

>>385829028
I don't know why but this hurts my eyes

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>>385859645