After 4 years of waiting, Steam rejected it

I don't know which garbage Early Access survival crafting game you're referring to.

>>385823892
and now the creator of this game, who is highly likely to be a furry as well, is bitching about it on /v/?

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>>385824037

>>385824037
Saurian. You play as a dinosaur that lines up with fossil evidence instead of movie monster concept art

>>385823892
>not muh dinos
good, let it rot

>>385823892
what game?

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>>385823892

steam QA doing its job

>>385823892
I don't know what game this is but it has dinosaurs in it so it must be shit

>>385823892

Nice lies anon.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/587450/Saurian/

>>385823892

>>385824473

What did OP mean by this?

>>385824204
Then why is there a triceratops there?

>>385823892
>>385823892
>>385823892

http://steamcommunity.com/app/587450/discussions/0/1470840994976611888/

>Currently, we are trying to get approval for Saurian to release. Steam has contacted us and told us that the game was unplayable due to crashes.

Nothing to see here folks, OP is a fag or is a mad developer who can't fix his shitty game

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>>385824473
>>385824605

>>385824645
Triceratops not existing is a misconstruction of what actually happened.

Another dinosaur was just added to triceratops's life cycle

>>385824645
triceratops =/= torosaurus
juvenile torosaurus have been found

althouth that triaceratops does not look like a modern reconstruction

>>385824793

And?

Quit trying to make drama out of literally fucking nothing.

>>385824820
>Another dinosaur was just added to triceratops's life cycle
no one has thought that since 2012

>>385824645
wait, triceratops was my favorite
don't tell me it doesn't exist

>>385824431
I'd understand if most of their playtesters did it but it was only one guy. Still there are better ways if fixing that such as making a more obvious landmark at the junction. Or make the looping path on the left side since most people have a tendency to just follow the right wall in a maze. 1 idiot couldn't do what 99 others had no problem with.

>>385824431
Oh fuck off
Saurian's an exception to the rule. They've been working their asses of for nearly half a decade only for this bullshit delay

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>>385823892
Early access games shouldn't be allowed to be sold period
finish your game or fuck off

>>385825103

maybe fix the crashes and you'll get approved Garrus

>>385825080
Popular dinosaurs that arent brontosaurus will always exist because no paleontologist is interested in renaming them

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>>385825173

>game was denied due to crashes
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEE WHY WAS MY 5 YEARS OF WORK DENIED REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE FUCKING STEAM FUCKING QA TESTERS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>385823892

that's a big chicken

>>385825173
>OP likes a game
>OP MUST HAVE MADE THE GAME

>>385823892
What is it?

>>385825080
Several years ago an idiot that didn't know what he was talking about claimed that triceratops was just a baby torosaurus. That was since proven wrong yet idiots still spout that shit.

>>385825080
it does
a crackpot wrote a paper saying it was just a juvenile torosaurus but juvenile torosaurus were all ready know to exist
the news went cray paleontologists everywhere facepalmed

>>385825308
4u

Steam normally approves every game, no matter who bad it is. If Steam rejects your game you better delete the code and start new.

>>385825308
Movie monsters were never real
>>385825005
I'm OP, that's not me, and I'm not a dev on the game, I should have clarified.

The game was initially described online as rejected and pending approval by a member.

Chances are it should hit sometime in the next week

>>385825225
he doesnt know about Brontosaurus excelsus
ishygddt

>steam rejected my game
>in a climate where steam usually accepts nothing but mediocre trash

how'd you fuck up THIS badly?

>>385824204
Why is the T-rex covered in feathers, then?

>>385823892
The T-Rex looks like he has a JUST haircut.

>>385825753
They didn't bribe the right Jews.

>>385825784

eeeeeere we go

>>385825803

it's a giant carrion eating flightless chicken

it's entire life is JUST

>>385823892
>fucking feathers and shit
Looks like shit fuck this

>>385825713
The point being that brontosaurus is the only one the scientific community ever claimed never existed

It would be fucking hilarious if that happened to Spinosaurus however

>>385823892
that triceratops doesnt have back quills
it better be omnivorous

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>>385825847
Considering we have multiple fossilized impressions of T-rex skin, and none of them have feathers...

>>385825951
Read a book fucktard.
You dont like dinosaurs, you like dragons, either accept what was actually found in the fucking fossils or accept that you never actually liked fucking dinosaurs to begin with

>>385826032
All of which are on places where birds don't have feathers?

>>385825784

we wuz kangs

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there are different types of feathers

>>385826076
I kind of don't care about dinosaurs at all. Hopefully this game doesn't try catering to non-dinosaur people like me and instead tries to please the other people who do like dinosaurs. But what are the odds of that happening?

>>385825225
2015 Study did find at least 7 new significant differences between Apatosaurus and Brontosaurus, giving the Brontosaurus the status of distinct specie once again.

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>>385826032
>Filename
Have you actually looked at the Rex in this game?

I went and looked up the trailer for the game. It seems interesting

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>>385825973

>>385826457

.50c was deposited into op's account

I don't get people who hate feathers on dinosaurs.
Lions and bears have fur and look retarded without it, why should dinosaurs be any different?

The unrealistic monsters in movies are why christians think they never existed

>>385826165
Wyrex has skin impressions showing neck, pelvis, and tail -- where birds do have feathers, retard.

http://rsbl.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/13/6/20170092

The bigger the theropod, the less-likely it had feathers.

>>385823892
Stop shilling your shitty ass game

we was dinos in shiiit

>>385826635
Reptiles don't have fur

>>385826619
Not like I was ever going to buy it.

>>385823892
Dinosaurs ain't real, just like round earth

>>385826635
Some people grew up with picture books showing dinosaurs without feathers. Some people have autism and cannot accept things that are different from what they know.

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>>385826585
Aren't triceratops supposed to be herbivores?

>>385826635
That's just it; people are so used to one thing that existed, so anything that challenges their norm causes them to be concerned. If bears were suddenly confirmed for having thin scales instead of having fur, people would be hating on it just as much as those who hate feathered dinosaurs.

Besides, deadly prehistoric birds are better than JP dinosaurs, with the sole exception of the T-Rex.

>>385826814
omnivores

Valve has QA Testers now? Surprising, considering the amount of trash on Steam that does not work.

>>385826649
And other feathered dinosaurs have bald spots in those areas.

Feathers are not for warmth, they're for total insulation, animals of all sizes can have them

There is no record of an animal having less feathers as an adult. Attributing feathers to size is a misconception and oversimplification to the degree of believing that dinosaurs were around during the big bang

>>385826886

when steam rejects your game for being nonfunctional, you've got problems

>>385825084
>people have a tendency to just follow the right wall in a maze
Left, actually.
And that tendency is not limited to mazes, but to any branching path, and the best example of that is a game like fire warrior, where in 90% of the cases the path to proceed is the left one.

>>385826635
Because "feathered dinos!" is 90% circlejerk and "Science" worship. Some dudes find a few feathered dinos in China. This causes dunning-kruger idiots to drop the cocks they're sucking and begin proselytizing that EVERY DINOSAUR EVER NO EXCEPTIONS must be FEATHERED.

Like the asshole that discovers a new condiment and now must pour that shit on everything and tell everyone that it needs to go on everything they're eating. You just want him to shut the fuck up.

>>385823892
Wait what? Why did this get playtested? Aren't there dozens of broken, shitty or unplayably cheap games in the store thanks to greenlight?

>>385825846
Or the game is too shitty even for steam.

>>385826992
imagine being this mad just because dinosaurs aren't like they were in his childhood

>>385823892
having published 3 games on steam; they don't have a fucking QA department
They only care if it gets bad press after the fact.
I can guarantee the Devs are lying through their teeth here.

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>>385824431
>maze rule is follow left wall
>follows right wall
dase it mane

>>385826782
You are not real

>>385824204
>fossil evidence brought to you by an industry that has lied nonstop for generations

Archeologists and paleontologists are all snake oil kikes.

At this point I wouldn't be surprised if dinosaurs as a whole did not exist and it was some other completely different animal like giant rats or something.

>>385826930
>There is no record of an animal having less feathers as an adult. Attributing feathers to size is a misconception and oversimplification to the degree of believing that dinosaurs were around during the big bang
Oh, I see, I'm talking to a retard. When I said "bigger", I wasn't talking about "older" dumb shit motherfucker. Did you see the link to the scientific study calling you a fucking faggot? You didn't? Look at the post again and follow the link, showing you what a fucking idiot you are.

>>385826992
You don't read books.
When a feathered dinosaur appears more central to the dinosaur family tree than any other, you begin to realize that scales were hamfisted assumption all along

>>385827081

imagine not thinking feathered bird dinos are much cooler than naked lizard dinos

>>385826967
given that they don't even test the game?

>>385824112
>who is highly likely to be a furry as well
pls no

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>>385827145
>I wouldn't be surprised if dinosaurs as a whole did not exist
They didn't.

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>>385827145

>>385824431
At this point has there been a mod that restores to how it was originally?

>>385827083
You're not aware of steam's new policy. Greenlight literally doesn't exist anymore

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>>385827174
I don't read books written by idiots. Look at this fossilized impression of T-rex skin and tell me
>that scales were hamfisted assumption all along
Fucking retard. Do you even pull your head out of your ass to breathe?

>>385826930
>a misconception and oversimplification to the degree of believing that dinosaurs were around during the big bang
Quite ironic, considering that that sentence is an oversimplification to the degree of something very stupid and laughable, too.

>>385827267
Said the faggot that smells

>>385823892
pro and anti fethers fags always ruin dino threads fuck you all autists

>>385824793
>"w-works on our machine!"

>>385826814
If anything has a beak like that it eats eggs.

>>385827145
>Archeologists and paleontologists are all snake oil kikes.

this is not wrong

dinos still had feathers though

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>>385827169
That correlation can't be tested.
Hell I imagine larger dinosaurs were likely even more feathered than modern day birds, they benefit from the ability to insulate heat more than anything.

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>>385826076
>Only a few species of cold climate dinos have been found with filaments that could be precursors to feathers
>Featherfag logic: OH, ALL DINOSAURS MUST HAVE HAD FEATHERS, BIG FLUFFY CHICKENS THEY ARE!

>>385827373
yeah,
some had feathers some didn't, how hard is it for people to understand

>>385827089
Maze rules you mean that shit from the Ronald McDonald cartoons?

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>>385826782

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>>385827373
When are we getting Operation Genesis 2?

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>>385827286
I understand it plenty as an anthropology major who has brushed with the subject and the people behind it regularly.
I guarantee to you at least large swaths of dinosaur species never existed whatsoever, paleontologists are fond of slightly changing out small portions of bone structures and naming their new Frankenstein's monster after themselves then selling it to other paleontologists or museums as a brand new species.

The community is rife with fat Jews who do this or attempt to do this nonstop. Ask anyone who works at a museum how often they're offered to exhibit this shit, even museums that have NOTHING to do with natural history. It makes me fucking sick these vermin are allowed to live side by side with real people in society.

>>385827509
fucking hell
sauropods did not have feathers
my paleontology lecturer would slap you

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>>385827509
>can't be tested
It's not meant to be tested. It's observed. Paleontology isn't about "testing" shit, dumbass. It's about observing.

>>385827339
Those aren't literal scales but rhino like leathery skin more than likely used as a base for thick coats of feathers.

A good scientist reads books by "geniuses" and "idiots" alike

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>>385827552

>>385827528
no I mean if you are "trapped" in a maze follow the left wall and you -will- find the exit

>>385827552
>I understand it plenty as an anthropology major

lol

>>385827515
Because real life doesn't have fair compromises like that.

Dinosaurs had feathers in totality

I hope retards in the future don't say shit like "ONLY A FEW MAMMALS HAD FUR"

>>385827546
dude stop, its too much information in one thread

>>385823892
https://youtu.be/K5bjrmibtxY

>>385827619
interestingly only modern rhinos have skin like that

>>385827617

sounds unscientific tbqhwy

>>385823892

Hello Valve elite beat QA tester team here, i rejected this piece of shit EA that crashed on startup

I'll be rejecting more turds that think they can crawl out of the sewer on to the store and think they can stink their way to success

Not on my watch scum

>>385827617
And testing everything that can be tested

I'm sorry but everything indicates that the past was loaded with floof

>>385827672
>troll.me

>>385827693
Read the rest of the sentence. I've watched these people do it live, they're so full of shit that anyone who doesn't know what garbage they peddle clearly has no understanding of the community behind the science.

>>385827619
Try reading this, faggot:

Spectacularly preserved non-avian dinosaurs with integumentary filaments/feathers have revolutionized dinosaur studies and fostered the suggestion that the dinosaur common ancestor possessed complex integumentary structures homologous to feathers. This hypothesis has major implications for interpreting dinosaur biology, but has not been tested rigorously. Using a comprehensive database of dinosaur skin traces, we apply maximum-likelihood methods to reconstruct the phylogenetic distribution of epidermal structures and interpret their evolutionary history. Most of these analyses find no compelling evidence for the appearance of protofeathers in the dinosaur common ancestor and scales are usually recovered as the plesiomorphic state, but results are sensitive to the outgroup condition in pterosaurs. Rare occurrences of ornithischian filamentous integument might represent independent acquisitions of novel epidermal structures that are not homologous with theropod feathers.
http://rsbl.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/11/6/20150229

Instead of your children's book written by a celebrity "scientist"

>>385827721
i have a degree in paleontology

>>385827548
check mesozoica
there is also another one but i dont remember the name

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>>385827721

>>385827802
I don't get how people think that's funny. People have been waiting for this game for years and steam decides to be retarded.
Every fucking game crashes

>>385827810
Oh, I guess we'll just start raising different breeds of theropods and see if the gigantism found in Tyrannosauroid strains continues to negatively correlate with the appearance of feathers/protofeathers.

Oh shit, we can't. Guess we're stuck with the data we have, dumbass.

>>385827848

i'm sorry to hear that

maybe you can turn some of the credits into something useful?

>>385827721
but some mammals don't have fur

>>385827841
>STAN WINSTON GODZILLAS IS REAL
Go back to the 90s dumbass

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>>385827957
Checkmate, argument over.

>>385828024
>Every fucking game crashes

no they don't

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>>385824793
hol up
Valve do quality control on Steam? Really? How come so much broken shit makes it through anyway?

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>>385827828

>>385823892
This T-rex is the result of a duck breeding with a lizard

Good riddance game

>>385828117

i knew this was coming, what i don't understand is how you could think this is some kind of checkmate

>>385828103
Yeah, I post 2 studies by actual scientists and all you can do is autistically screech out your strawmen because you heard from a celebrity how dinos had feathers while he came in your mouth.

>>385828039
well you know what they say study what you love and you wont work a day in your life as that field isnt hiring
although i did learn something useful
NOT ALL DINOSAURS HAD FEATHERS, SOME DID SOME DIDN'T

>>385828024
>People have been waiting for this game for years
Well they're stupid, and just because there's a small group of idiots doesn't mean that this piece of crap should be put into the market to annoy the hell out of everyone else.

>>385823892
Actual OP here. I kneejerked
The game is rejected by steam's new QA but that isn't final. Steam will approve it when the crashes can be replicated and fixed and tested once more.

It will just take a while since this is not the only game they test

>>385828149
they only recently battened down the hatches by eliminating greenlight, they too noticed their market was being flooded by shovelware shit, because of the mongoloids that voted.

>>385823892
>steam has QA
what?

>>385828180
Thats fucking reality deal with it weeb

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>>385827619
wouldn't that fossil also show feathers if they had any like pic related did?

>>385828415

i think you owe an "idiot" an apology

Glad Steam is at least pretending to have quality control now.

Steam is filled with this trash.

>>385828505
there are tales of them having customer support too. Unbelieavable i say.
>>385828539
>weeb
did i say anything about anime or in japanese? Because last time i checked i hate both of these

>>385828554
No fuck steam QA. Plenty of people are playing the prerelease demo and having no crashes.
Why the fuck would I think labeling the game as "unplayable" is fair?

>>385828659
>loli faggot shifting the goalposts
well this debate is over

>>385828746
>Plenty of people are playing the prerelease demo and having no crashes.
Such as the Dev and his sockpuppets.

>>385828850
What debate?
What lolis ?
Anon ,are you ok?

>>385828880
People are literally letsplaying the demo right now and experiencing zero issues

The fact that fucking dream daddys or whatever comes through and not this is bullshit

>>385824204
Then why can T-rex run?

>>385828541
another problem that these idiots don't understand is that feathers without beaks fucking sucks. Birds use their beaks for constant grooming/preening and they still end up getting plenty of parasites in there.

A small theropod, like a microrapter, might get by with a long neck and extremely narrow snout -- narrow enough to only grab and clean one or two large, broad feathers at a time. Something with a snout the size of an alligator, though? Can you imagine it trying to preen itself? What sort of precision do you think it would have when setting that one out-of-place feather back? Can you imagine it keeping a preen gland the size of a cantaloupe from getting infected?

>>385828932
Never fucking reply to me again unless you're contributing to the thread.

>>385829053
So bite the bullet and pay the ransom.

>>385829135
Go hang yourself because you are a retarded summerfag.

There,i contribute by pointing out and reporting the underage b&

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Grow up, JP was a shit movie with no understanding of reality. Dinosaurs were fluffy floofs like lions and tigers. If you can't handle that you're really stupid and not well read

>>385828207
All mammals have fur. You didn't disprove this, checkmate.

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>>385828501
http://store.steampowered.com/app/634230/Project_First_Contact/

Yeah, no, fat fuck, dumb fuck, Jim Sterling - Steam hasn't improved since Greenlight got removed.

>>385829074
TIL dinosaurs cant have feathers because bears, moose, and mammoths can't preen themselves

>>385829217
>newfag bites the bait

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>>385829460
(You)

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>>385827546
What would a TimeCube game be like?

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>>385829283

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>>385829364

I don't see what the problem is with feathers, I think it looks pretty cool, and it gives you just another thing that you can add to dino's to make them look different from each other.

The saurian discord has gone ballistic calm the fuck down

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>>385827145
GTFO HAMPOSTER

>>385829283
You know, you have to question exactly why we have impressions for literally everything but the areas with feathers.

>>385825952

>spinosaurus

You shut up. You shut the fuck up right now abd don't wish that on one of my top three favorite dinos.

Spinos a cute! CUTE!

>>385823892
>won't full release
>can't get my 30 freedommoney back yet
Fuck

>>385829824
Because feathers don't fossilize well in the west or something.

It would take an idiot to believe tyrannosaurus was bald because that implies that chickens had to have evolved feathers somepoint after being chickens

>>385829991
wait, what.

>>385826032
b-but there's no proof that they DIDN'T have feathers.

Ah, i'm glad it got rejected. It is a buggy mess. Glad to see my email to valve worked somewhat.

>>385829932
Spinosaurus is the icon for movie monster faggots who think they like dinosaurs

>>385826814
Nope, obligate carnivores. Bones from various species have been found in their bellies.

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>>385829991
>Because feathers don't fossilize well in the west or something.
Because there's no mud or trees in the west?

>>385825626
More like valve doesn't want competition for their shitty dinosaur game.

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I hate how americans to think arrogant of how smart themselves the ultimate resting power of bull eagle tyrannosaurus

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>>385830575
>to think arrogant of how smart themselves the ultimate resting power

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>>385829443
They *can*, but it's extremely disadvantageous. Especially for an animal with a T-rex's diet.

>>385830575
that image
flight feathers not filamentous
wat

Just don't make the dinosaurs look like peacocks and everything will be great.

>>385828149
I'm pretty sure all they do is try and launch the game

bad sign in this case

>>385831014
Sounds like steam

>>385830172

I don't even like dino movies, or monster movies in general, anon.

>>385830924
Guess what?

They look like peacocks

>>385828746
It may be a piece of shit but at least Dream Daddy consistently works. Given how shit Steam QA actually is right now this game getting held back speaks volumes about how bad it probably is.

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>>385830924
>>385831340
>pee
>cocks

>>385830924
Well birds are literally a type of dinosaur
Anyone who knows how to read understands that dinosaur, by definition, cannot be evolved out of. Every descendant of a dinosaur is considered a dinosaur.

This doesn't stretch to groups like fish because dinosaur basically defines every animal between iguanodon and megalosaurus.

>>385831547
To compound this, birds are not too modern, all of your favorite dinosaurs evolved after birds

>>385831547
You can't be suggesting that birds didn't exist at the same time as dinosaurs.

>>385831492
>Defending dream daddy
>even if you're right

>>385831906
I'm suggesting that people who say birds are too young to be called dinosaurs are idiots

>>385831657
they also evolved after wasps and mosquitoes. That doesn't make wasps and mosquitoes into dinosaurs.

I disagree with the definition of "because X is related to Y, and X and Y were around in the same timeframes, Y == X", because then X and Y *lose* their definitions. There are obvious distinctions between modern birds and what we call "dinosaurs".

>>385831547
>Descendants of Dinosaurs.

>>385832069
No, there isn't, any distinction you make subtracts a popular dinosaur from the word dinosaur.
Dinosaur isn't defined the way other animal groups are, fromthe get go it literally includes animals descended from the group.

Linking Iguanodon and Megalosaurus as similar animals basically made dinosaur one of the most vague common terms in science

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>>385823892

>>385832509
>No, there isn't, any distinction you make subtracts a popular dinosaur from the word dinosaur.
Who gives a fuck if there are one or two exceptions? What makes more sense? Debating whether archaoptrix and 10 other species should be identified as birds or dinosaurs or saying
>HUHR DUHR, there are like 3 animals we can't figure out, I GUESS WE SHOULD JUST SHIT ON THE DEFINITION WITH A BILLION BIRD SPECIES!!!!!!! FUCK US!!!!

>>385832509
worm is probably the most vague followed by fish

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nobody cares about your stupid ass "fossil evidence" dinosaurs. people want sexy dinosaurs. do you know how much porn the latest jurassic park movie generated?

nobody wants to fuck your giant chemo therapy chickens

>>385832695
That's not a counterpoint, the term dinosaur isn't an exact science.

This isn't about proving that they are dinosaurs, its about redefining the word dinosaur as to not include birds.

Trust me I agree with you entirely, but you're going to have to propose a definition for dinosaur that for example, excludes emus while containing velociraptor

>>385832873
Actual people don't want to fuck animals you degenerate
Hang yourself

>>385832975
>That's not a counterpoint, the term dinosaur isn't an exact science.
It *is* a counterpoint because the term isn't an exact science. It's up for debate. So when I say that I disagree with a standing, perhaps-even-popular definition, that's ok.

The problem is that the definition is debated by a bunch of jerks who have turned their own assholes into Plato's cave. They're so caught up in whether or not natural taxonomical descriptions should include "all descendants" (which they shouldn't, because that's as fucking stupid as it gets-- otherwise we're all fucking "single celled pro-fucking-zoans", by definition), that they're throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

>>385827690
right wall works too retard

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>>385827379
Here friend

>>385833330
Again, don't get me wrong, Dinosaur should be redefined because as of now its to vague to be worth popular use. At least fish and worms have generally understood phenotypical traits

What definition would you propose?

>>385833330
But a single celled organism be definition has one cell

A dinosaur by definition is descended from the common ancestor of iguanodon and megalosaurus

>>385833007
>having no desire of true full primal dominance over an apex predator

what's the problem /pol/cuck? dick too small? testosterone too low? are you a disgusting little twigboy who couldn't muster the strength to choke his gf even if he wanted to?

>>385833530
>fish and worm have generally understood phenotypical

lamprey is a fish so is and shark, so is a coelacanth
all extremely different

worm
annelid worms, polychete worms
again all different

dinosaur - actually very similar

>>385833530
Current dinosaur definition, plus or minus a few "who-cares" species, but not including what we define as "birds". There are few enough "close calls" that we can just push them to one side or the other.

It makes more sense to say "There are a million on this side, and a million on this side, and 5 inbetween we need to manually adjust" than saying "Gee, there's 5 inbetweeners. Guess we need to adopt something that makes ALL USAGE completely obscure!"

Nobody that says "Dinosaurs" is referring to birds unless they're making a phylogenic point.

>>385823892
>Budgiesaurs

I was this close from giving a fuck.

>>385833913
to follow up cladistically speakin fish is not a valid term worm is not a valid term but dinosaur is

>>385829710
>Posts an irrelevant image with no argument

Jim sterling cuckfan

>>385834098
most of my zoology lecturers referred to 'typical dinosaurs' as non avian dinosaurs and birds as avian dinosaurs

>>385833813
And we're descended from single-cells, that makes us single-cells, according to same decision that makes birds "terrible lizards"

The word "Dinosaur" didn't appear in 2010 when a few assholes thought they'd become encyclopedia-famous by forcing "more scientific!!!" definitions on everyone. It's older and has more meaning than that.

>>385834216
>Posts an butthurt reply with no argument

/pol/ retard fag lord

>>385834348
surely a dinosaur is any member of Dinosauria

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Phoneposting this thread with no survivors.

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>>385825784
Birds went full WE WUZ

>>385834334
That doesn't speak well for your professors.

>>385834348
Your own preconceived idea that protozoa and dinosaurs are comparable is telling.

Its like saying the word lion shouldn't have the definition it does because it isn't a 1 to 1 comparison to the word caterpillar.

Dinosaur was NEVER comparable to protozoa because it was never an exclusive title to begin with

>>385823892
feathered dinosaurs were a mistake, every time there's an advance in science Dinosaurs get less and less cool.

if steam denies it you KNOW it has to be fucking awful

>>385834692
how so

>>385825103
How is a fucking inability to run the game on the most barbones of quality checks "bullshit"

It literally just had to run

>>385834348
At this point you're not shitting on science, you're just shitting on language

You may call me.....Infinite

In the brief moments that remain to you.

>>385827145
>>385827267
spotted the handicapped burgers

>>385834697
>Your own preconceived idea that protozoa and dinosaurs are comparable is telling.
It's a strawman, but it's allowed under the same fules when someone says "Birds are dinosaurs because they descended from some of the same ancestors as dinosaurs" It's declared to show that the rule is pure bullshit. The fact that you don't understand this simple logic is telling of YOU. You can't understand simple logic, so you rely on a professor in a white lab coat to tell you everything. How well will that work out for you when you discover that those lab coats don't necessarily agree on everything? Such as: The definition of dinoaurs.

Birds are different from dinosaurs. They were different then, they are different now. Calling them "Dinosaurs" is a perpetuation of the broken-as-fuck taxonomic system that everyone knows is broken-as fuck but dunning-kruger noobs think it's some magic wand of scientific truth.

>>385834348
>the word dinosaur didn't appear until 2010
>people responded to this
>so did I

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>>385830575
>americans
OBSESSED

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>>385823892

Fuck all of you, YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW TALENT

>>385835408
But it was professors in white lab coats who made the word. It barely changed
The issue here is that the original offhand definition has become strict

>>385835414
you're right, there should be a "it's not like" preceding that sentence. People responded because the context fills that in.

>playing a game about dinosaurs

What are you 12? Go back to your Jurassic Park forum and argue about Spinosaurus versus T Rex

>>385835661
I'm just retarded and failed reading comprehension.

>>385835603
The word was to describe a family of ancient, extinct species that have little-to-no resemblance to birds. Ratcheting the definition to the point of including "birds" shows that the process has gone too far. Dial that shit back.

Are we really all forgetting that a game couldn't make it past steam QA and instead arguing about the models

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>>385834348
>>385832873
>>385827145

THEBESTTHEBESTTHEBESTTHEBESTTHEBEST

>>385835769
Spinosaurus was significantly smaller than portrayed in JP3 and primarily ate fish. They likely behaved similar to bears.
This information of course is based entirely on something I read once ten years ago and will repeat it for the rest of my life regardless of evidence presented against it.

>>385835963
Yes, and there is nothing you can do about it sir fagalot.

>>385827721
Literally humans are partially hairless mammals

Also whales and dolphins

Naked mole rat

Your argument is a dumpster fire

Dinosaurs did not have feathers

not only did they have feathers they also had hair

>>385826165
>>385826456
>>385830116
actually we've had recent new skin imprints so its really settled for now

http://nypost.com/2017/06/07/t-rex-didnt-have-feathers-scientists-confirm/

>>385831014
it would already be more than they did until now

>>385836359
>>385836383
Thats just the basis for the skin, just like how a cooked bird is featherless.
The dinosaurs died out in a giant inferno, remember?

We already know dinosaurs are closely related to chickens, there is no going back now

>>385836187
Who gives a shit? It's just dinosaurs. Go back to playing zoo tycoon kid.

>>385826635

Their only knowledge of dinosaurs comes from Jurassic Park and the Land Before Time

>>385836383
There was a lot of this sensationalist news on this subject because of some paper that came out recently. It was really oddly written because it made some odd claims like direct comparisons about heat distribution between Elephants and Dinosaurs (generally a layman mistake because elephants are built like blocks), which is interesting because some big names like Phil Currie were on the paper. As for having scales, the article only really confirmed Tyrannosaurus to have non feathered skin on its belly and tail, which IIRC were the places we suspected it didn't have feathers based on phylogenetic bracketing.

Everyone seems to have forgotten about Nanuqtyrannus, which is probably a T.rex ancestor and had no reason not to have feathers.

Land Before Time is the most accurate dinosaur movie to date

>>385828024
>People have been waiting for this game for years
what kind of "people"

>>385826635
Creationists think dinosaurs never existed because they're delusional retards. More normal religious sects know the bible is mostly made up bullshit and is just a guideline to not be a terrible person.

>>385836936
Autists who go to forums with usernames they came up with as a kid like Orcasaurus or something

Digimon has more accurate dinosaurs than pokemon and marvel has more accurate dinosaurs than MARTHA SAVITAR dc my opinions are better

>>385836654

Am I being trolled or are you actually ignorant about basic paleontology?

Well an Argentinosaurus is the largest known dinosaur (>100 feet head to tail and weighed more than 200,000 pounds). Now I don't know much about dinosaur penises, but if we assume they had some sort of hemipenis, which is commonly found in lizards, and assume that its body to hemipenisn ratio was equivalent to hemipenis ratios commonly found in land lizards today (12-22%) then we can put its penis size at around 12 to 18 ft long and a few hundred pounds in weight. Jerking said hemipenis would be difficult for even the Mountain and would probably best be done be grabbing it like you're trying to climb a tree and shaking up and down. Now since hemipenes are barbed I would imagine this to be rather uncomfortable, and thus this is my answer for the hardest dinosaur to jerk off

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>>385837090
lol ok, those are not people lets establish it now. So basically no sane person gives a fuck about this game and we are just here to shitpost. I might as well post my favorite pic.

>>385837062
Only Americans rely on the bible to not be shitty people

Look how that worked out

>>385837159
Do you often think about dinosaur penises?

Imma eat your brain nom nom nom! ~ RAWRRR IMMA DUCKY!! <333~ ~ QUACK IMMA DINOSAUR!! <333~

>>385835452
OBESE

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>It's an "idiots think their opinions matter" thread

Just because you're too stupid to enjoy the beauty of pre-history, history and basically anything that requires prior knowledge around a subject matter doesn't mean there isn't an audience for it.

>>385837126
I understand basic paleontology fine, I'm just saying shit everyone knows already.

You fucktards are constantly trying to prove science wrong but its too late
They already proven half this shit years ago
Dinosaurs have feathers, its not shock value news anymore, its reality.

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>>385837221
here's mine

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>>385824204
only new evidence shows that t-rex did not have feathers
at most it only had proto-feathers going along it's spine.
not covering half it's body like some featherfags think

>>385837580
quite a piece of artwork you have there

>>385837307
Obviously if you need a book to tell you not to be a shit person you were pretty shit to begin with, but there's still a huge jump from weak willed christfags to extremist creationists.

Literally just a bunch of fucking dead dumb lizards
Who gives a shit about this autism anyway

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>>385837580
>>385837636
here's MINE

>>385837881
thats scary on many levels

>>385837628
Wrong, they just found out that certain spots (like the legs for example) most likely didn't have feathers which is what was proposed before anway.

>>385837628
no feathered animal has only a feathered mane as an adult

Feathers don't even function that way

All feathered animals were pretty much dressed from head to toe

>>385836654
>It was just one event that killed the dinosaurs
>This proves the cooked chicken/burned feathers logic

The absolute state of featherfags.

>>385837636
Thank you my negro, me and a couple of friends of mine are massive dinosaur fans. We just love dinosaurs! Everything we talk about is dinosaurs. Ever since I watched Jurassic Park, played every video game, and brought that dinosaur expansion pack for Zoo Tycoon, I have been in love with dinosaurs.

>>385837881
This drawing's kinda cute. I'm a scalie myself.

>>385837403
You mean Mexicans and British?

>>385830575
Excuse me?

>>385837981
>dressed from head to toe
Have you ever seen a bird?

>>385838062
>played every video game

What's the best?

is this that game in EA where you get to play as a dinosaur?

I saw that shit for 20 seconds on a twitch pre alpha clip and instantly saw just how absolutely fucking TRASH it looked, everything looked buggy and disgustingly unpolished.

Stop making shit games

>>385838337
Jurassic Park Operation Genesis

>>385838379
apparently it crashed so much that STEAM refused it. Go figure. Then the op who is obviously butthurt that 3 people have to wait for this shitshow of a game thought it a good idea to inform v

>>385838270
Birds are less feathered and more derived than most non avian dinosaurs.
Its most likely that feathers are an ancestral trait to all archosaurs including crocs considering pterosaurs have fibers
Chances are croc scales are so different because they're derived feathers.

Dinosaurs more than likely stayed on the straight path and were majorly woolly

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>>385823892
Man those models really remind me of ZT1!

we should point anyone from steam to this thread, maybe they can digital homicide this game

>>385828149
No. They are just pretending. The only one I know of that guarantees the product works is GOG.

On a side note: Don't ever buy old games on steam. If they don't work, they just tell you to get fucked. I had that issue with the old xcom games.

>>385836654
cooked chickens dont have scales on their skin do they?
>>385836805
>(generally a layman mistake because elephants are built like blocks)
T-rex is an even larger mass than an african elephant and an active predator.We know Yutyrannus developed proto feathers for insulation in the frozen wastes of mongolia. It was a specialized adaptation to a specific environment.Why would t-rex would retain this feature in a sub tropical environment?

>>385838675
That sounds like an even bigger explosion

>>385838803
If we go off of it being descended from Nanuqsaurus (I accidentaly wrote it as Nanuqtyrannus), it's more of a question of whether or not T.rex RETAINED feathers rather than actually had them. Given no animal that's ever existed lost feathers entirely after gaining them, I'd reckon there's a greater chance of it having feathers than not, although probably to a reduced degree than something like Nanuqsaurus.

>>385838675
I fucking dare you

>>385839274
done

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>>385834584
>mammals are also reptiles
I wonder who could be behind this post

>Valve doing quality control

What the fuck timeline did we enter????

>>385839675
I'm sure that's going by some extremely specific biology rule rather than the normally accepted definition of reptile, which obviously excludes mammals.

>>385839267
>Given no animal that's ever existed lost feathers
the type of feathers Yutyrannus had were downy insulation feathers.These are not the flight feathers in adult birds of today.
If you've kept birds you'll know these primitive feathers are found in chicks which are shed and molted out of as they mature they are purely for warmth and are promptly discarded for flight feathers.Most modern birds have long discarded these downy feathers in their evolutionary past.The thing is large theropods dont fly.....

>>385833454
>>385827690
this only works if the maze is simply connected

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>Featherfags and /pol/garbage getting reckt in the same thread.

Trully the best time.line. Fuck off with your generic "realism" survival game clone, none of these games have future.

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Remember when dinosaurs were the shit? Like dinosaurs used to be the thing that could hook anyone?
Remember when we all liked dinosaurs?
And then everything had to go to hell?

>>385826635
I don't think feathered dinosaurs are scientifically accurate but they look way more badass.

>>385830575
anon what

>>385823892
>T-Rex
>Feathers
>scientific proof
Pick two

>>385839975
No animal is born feathered only to lose them when they grow up. I'm also not saying T.rex would have flight feathers that doesn't make any sense.

Also I'm not talking about Yutyrannus; that one is much older. Nanuqsaurus is much more recent.

>>385823892
>something actually got rejected from steam
HAHAHA that's great

>>385830575
/thread

>Make game with dinosaurs that are "scientifically accurate"
>New information makes you wrong hours later
>Game's not scientifically accurate anymore
>Game doesn't have classic dinosaur designs people enjoy and recognize
Enjoy your game going under

>>385834584
>>385839675
WE

dinosaurs were birds get over it JP fans
we just assumed they were reptiles back in the 1800s

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>>385835452
I was having a good day before now.

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This is an actual dinosaur, fuck off with your inbred chickens

>>385840759
They are still reptiles though
It just means birds used to be reptiles

>>385841231
WAS

>>385840304
well as a previous poultry owner i can tell you the feathers birds are born in (the primitive downy feathers) are molted it out of and modern birds do not have them as their standard feathers in adulthood.

Nanuqsaurus literally means polar bear lizard its in an even colder and specialized environment than Yutyrannus. Why would T-rex a massive active hunter retain downy insulation feathers in sub tropical environment?They only retain heat they serve no other function.
furthermore and sorry to use Yutyrannus once again but Yutyrannus was completely covered in these feathers across its body however we have scale prints of T-rex in the same areas with no plumage.So it hasn't retained these features in sub tropical California.

>>385841153
You are a inbred chicken.

>>385827552

Is this a new /sci/ copypasta?

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>>385841426
T.rex lived in Montana and lower Alberta, not California. The Hell Creek formation wasn't exactly subtropical, but rather more temperate. Hell Creek's location also meant that there would be periods of the year in which the sun wouldn't rise at all for extended periods of time.

I'm not saying T.rex would have been completely covered in feathers, rather, in being descended from Nanuqsaurus (evolving in about 2-3 million years) it simply lost a good degree of them, but it's unlikely they lost ALL their feathers.

Pic related is known feather/skin distribution on Tyrannosaurs and related.

>>385842795
>Carnotaurus
>feathers

Nigger, now I know you just a Featherfag in denial.

>>385824112
>furry

A scalie, surely. Not a furry.

>>385842795
i like how the t-rex only has scales but the silhouette has feathers anyway like "yeah ive made up my mind regardless of fossil evidence"

Nothing is good with you faggots.
Years of whining that steam needs some sort of quality control.
Then they start to do some minimal quality control. NOOO THEY CAN'T DOO THAT FUCKING IDIOTS I NEED MY BROKEN GAMES.

>>385842795
>Hell Creek's location also meant that there would be periods of the year in which the sun wouldn't rise at all for extended periods of time.

In lower Alberta? I thought that shit was reserved the northernmost parts of the Territories. Or was the earth on a more extreme axis back then?

>>385826032

How do we know what feathers look like when the skin is fossilized?

>>385843275
bruh

>>385829283
>JP was a shit movie with no understanding of reality

Didn't they mention in Jurassic Park that they genetically modified the dinosaurs to look like like what people thought they were supposed to look like?

Or am I thinking of something else?

>feathershit
a fitting punishment

>>385824204
>fossil evidence
>feathered rex
Top kek

>>385845872
Not that I don't appreciate that they kinda just threw that line in there, but it was only in Jurassic World which of course came out 20 years after the original so they decided to get away with it by just kinda throwing that line in there. That and the dna is mixed with shit like frogs and stuff so more amphibious creatures = less chance for feathers.

>>385845872
In the book yes, don't think they did in the movie

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>>385842795
Kek, that pic is wrong. We have T-rex scaled from the neck and pelvis, 2 places it has feathers in that pic

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>>385844138
The feathers would also be fossilized or imprinted, often blocking the skin from imprinting.

In some cases, feathers have been found encased in amber, but those were birds and microrapters and the like, not T-rexes.

>>385836383
>always ALWAYS refer to a paper you didn't actually fucking read or better yet an article that didn't either

tl;dr: the fossil sample for this ''confirmation'' come from around few square inches on the tail and the belly. They're tiny, tiny skin impressions and are by no means definite.

>>385847384
>all those (NOT T REX JUST SIMILAR ANIMAL) skin
>but T-rex having all his closest relatives with feathers doesn't count

>>385847418
>tl;dr: the fossil sample for this ''confirmation'' come from around few square inches on the tail and the belly.
And the neck and the pelvis, and 19.5 square inches in not a few square inches, it's almost 2 square feet you retard.

>>385847639
Not same samples used in the paper you fucking mongoloid.

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>>385827145
>>385827267

>>385847610
Except all those are more closely related to T-rex than Yutyranus is you retard.

>>385847705
But they fucking exist you mong. You can't just throw out evidence that further supports the papers claim because it wasn't available at the time

>Look at bird skull
>looks nothing like the living bird looks

>Look at mammal skull
>Looks nothing like the living mammal looks

>Look at dinosaur skull
>Looks exactly like the dinosaur skull minus the skin wrapped around it

???

>>385836805
>no reason not to have feathers.
see
>>385829074
If you think a large, wide-muzzled, predator has no reasons to NOT have feathers, it's because you're wrong and you stuck your head in your ass instead of bothered researching for one damn second.

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>>385837881
unmake this

>>385847610
>only famous feather rex is Yutyranus, which is only in the same superfamily as T-rex
>posts pice with animals all in the same family, most from the same subfamily
>hurr dey aren't closer related than mhu feathered dinosaur
Top kek retard

>>385847865
> looks nothing like the living bird looks
> looks nothing like the living mammal looks
You need to get your eyes checked? This shit is only the case for things like whales. Lizards and crocs are pretty close to shrink-wrapped anyway.

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>>385847865
I don't understand the autism locked in this post. How do dinosaurs, such as those in Jurassic Park, look like skeletons with skin? I don't see it. I don't get the "shrinkwrapped dino" argument. Are you suggesting the dinos should have more wrinkles? Fatter necks or something?

>>385847865
>>Looks nothing like the living mammal looks
Nigger what? How on earth can you not see the resemblance between a human face and human skull?

>>385847848
They don't link to an article that refers to Bell 2017. study you fucking idiot.

Nah just kidding I love you anon. Bell et. al do actually take into account these samples, but they base their foundlings on some rather wonky models on heat dispersion based on elephants and then confirm that notion through the evidence. But the elephant model is fucking shit and really undermines the actual findings, wish someone would analyze these impressions on less retarded grounds.

>>385827721
>I hope retards in the future don't say shit like "ONLY A FEW MAMMALS HAD FUR"
b-but we don't have fur

>>385827721
>Humans
>those ugly-looking cats
>whales
>pangolin
>Elephants

>>385827552
>Internet degree claims
I have a double major in anthropology and your wrong and gay

>>385848707
what would an anthropologist know about paleontology?

>>385824204
>it's not just a shitty early access game
>it's a pretentious early access game
Wew

>>385828117
>little vestigial hair that they will eventually lose upon reaching adulthood = fur
what did you mean by this?

>>385824204
They change their fucking opinions every half a decade due to, shockingly enough, it's rather difficult to ascertain the finer details of a species that has been dead for millions of years.