What went wrong?

what game

No one at valve wants to work on this shitty game. They are still taking fucking forever to get an update after they pyro vs heavy event while dota still get constant updates all the time.

>>385812383
gaem dead, theyre just milking it and trying to keep it afloat with the esports bux

valve is done making valve games since steam is a cash cow

they only care about doter and cs go now.
half life 3 never ever
l4d3 never ever
tf3 maybe because they can get the game popular again and then repeat the cycle of selling hats for eternity

call me big bane

cuz im comin to crash that plane

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The weapon pool is too large to maintain the original sense of balance, the trading economy is over saturated with insanely rare items with no demand, metal had become useless, and the cosmetics have gotten completely out of hand.

they wanted to make TF2 competitive

Literally in OP pic. Melee demo.

>>385812383
people got bored and moved on.
that's it

>>385812383
Overwatch came out and valve did nothing to compete.

popularity faded, like any game

>>385812383
>What went wrong?
Still a good. Game. Just that given its age it has just gotten stale. And as good as anything may be sometimes people want something not necessarily better but just different.

Free to play, that's what went wrong.

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Two halloween events in a row were community hackjobs in favor of "working on bigger updates!!!"

>>385812383
Too ahead of its time

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Long term, over saturation of the cosmetics market and scrap, as well as an attempt to push more CSGO like weapon skins system?

Short term? An attempt to complete with overwatch's competitive scene, which is dying fast as fuck regardless since asians don't care about shooters and westerners don't like this fucking MOBA shooter hybrid shit, which everyone hated and panned since no one fucking plays TF2 for competitive play.

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>>385813132
>weapon pool is too large to maintain the original sense of balance
Oh fuck off, I'm so tired of this meme. Since the release day TF2 had a class that can oneshot every other character in his line of sight with a hitscan rifle. But when they added a weapon that can eat 10% of some retarded healslut's uber if she can't avoid a slowly moving projectile, that's where you draw the line. It's okay if there are 2 classes that directly counter scout, but if you give him a tool to move faster and hit harder at the cost of being a glass cannon, that's where the fun ends. Whiny bitches like you are probably the reason we haven't seen new weapons added in 2,5 years which made everybody so bored that they either left for Overwatch or resorted to retarded gimmicky modes like 1000x or vs Furry Saxton Pony Error Sign.

>>385814401

>added the ubersaw and never touched it ever

It's not a meme fagtron

If valve had introduced new classes with different playstyles like Overwatch does instead of adding weapons to pre-existing classes, would TF2 be more or less successful than it is?

>>385812383

Literally all they had to do was touch up old maps, make competitive versions of them etc, like community mappers did.
If that's too hard, they just had to improve socialising features in-game like enabling spinning up servers with configs out of dedicated servers, so e.g. you can take a competitive mode server and throw up ETF2L's ruleset on demand, while playing matchmaking.

If you have a community of friends who agree on something, you could set up a communities thing like fucking Mario Kart 8 did and avoid the issue of reserving slots or splitting players across two or three 24 slot servers.

Autobalance is resolved through this system in favour of just linking multiple servers together and scaling accordingly, even as a feature for server browser exclusive servers that admins can opt for.

Most importantly all they really had to do was look at competitive community and ask "uh why y'all niggas never ever use engy?"

There's plenty but most of it is just an advanced form of leaving it the fuck alone.

>>385815012

No.
Civilian modes though could be fun. Literally all they ever bothered to do was add Pass Time and it's not half bad, but it still could do with some work.

>>385814401
I'd rather they just add shit to the weapons we already have

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the age old answer since TF2 began.

>competitive tf2

its not what tf2 was or should be about man...

>>385815339

>Soldier gets to lug a rocket at his feet without needing to aim down once per jump
>Demoman gets his bundle of dynamite, acts as a group of sticky bombs and is time detonated, mostly to flush out players
>Scout gets conc nade

Shit like this basically

>>385812383
REMOVE MATCHMAKING

Valve releasing valve made garbage so people wouldn't leave for better games.
Suprise it didn't work

>>385812383
Get ready for a mid august release!

this update will be the Titanic of TF2 updates

>>385815629
Other than the demoman one none of those are really necessary

Casual matchmaking was a mindboggling stupid decision nobody ever asked for that removed a perfectly functional better system

The game is still fun though and I play it like once a week but I will never understand the mental gymnastics that made them think we needed casual matchmaking

>>385814734
Do you imply that ubersaw is OP? Because amputator is much better in pubs where self-sustain is more important than ubers (at least it was that way before MYM's silent nerf, now it's meh) and vita-saw is so much better in competetive that they had to ban it. Solemn Vow is kinda OK. They could just make Solemn Vow a reskin, give its property to bonesaw, buff amputator back, rework vita-saw so it won't be banned in the environment it's created for and call it a day.

>>385812383
Trying to compete with overwatch while having single digit size team.

>>385812383
It went for too long, should have died after 2010ish

>>385815927

You can't really buff Soldier but basically yeah, mostly an aid for people to get better.

God damn poor Spy though, whatever can anyone do to save him?
>Gib intel
>One-way one use teleporter
>Throwable sapper
>Sapper blocks control points/slows payload
>Sapper isn't always in the same spot and need to be directly hit
etc

>tfw you lived long enough to actually see the "TONIGHT'S THE NIGHT" threads die off.

topkek

So I thought after all these years I would try this game.

>Max FOV 90
>Max mouse sensitivity '6' (slug)
>Movement speed: Fucking snail

Holy shit this is bad.

>>385817132
A game this old with so many years to add patches this shit really should be in the game. It's unacceptable.

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>>385813543
Fucking this, they also removed the halloween gifts in favor of a the retarded gargoyles.

>>385817132
Didn't they remove the ability to change FOV when they introduced matchmaking? I swear you could have it past 90 before.

>>385817132
activate developer console, Type in 'Viewmodel_fov (your number here)'
it helps a bit, i recommend 80-90. Highest in normal settings is 70

>>385817132
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSUtkj3YidQ

>>385817907
Doesn't this just change the FOV of your weapon model? On my screen I have trouble playing lower than 95.

>>385819196
It does, But its helps a bit with the low regular fov cap