>top 100 games of all time list >Pong is on the list

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>Skyrim is in the Top 10

Have you played pong recently ?

It still holds up

What is the worst top 100 games list you could make or have seen?

>kotor doesn't make the cut

>Any sonic game is on the list

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>licensed games are included

>top 100 games of all time
>theres games of the year that the list was made on the list

>>385783520

that v's top 100 list made by 1 person with deus ex at the top as 1

>a sports game of any kind is included

I don't really consider racing games to be sports btw

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>The Last of Us in the top 5
Why do I see this as often as I do

>>385783886
>licensed games can't be good
nice one bro!

>>385784326
Roses are red
Violets are blue
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2

>>385784326
what about the fun sports games, like the original NBA jam or NFL blitz? those were amazing.

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>half-life 2

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>>385783361
>number one is Skyrim, any Mario game, tetris, pac-man, The Last of Us, or any FPS

>top 100 list contains games made not in japan

>top 100
>half of the entries are from 5 years ago

>>385783361
If the list is formulated around the idea of the game's impact on the industry then pong belongs.

>>385784426
Still worthy, keep crying

>#6 - Minecraft

>>385784586
literal shit HL1 is better

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>top ten best consoles of all time
>1. nes
>2. atari 2600

>>385784676
That's not what literal means

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>>385783427
>no achievements
>no ironsights
>no dual weilding
>no explosions
>only 2 player
>no chromatic abberation
>no killstreaks
>no dlc
>no campaign
>no skins
>no customizable weapons
>no dubstep

>>385783419
fuck gameinformer.

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>>385783886
>top video game villains list
>contains villains that didn't originate in video games

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>the top 10 consists of games made after 2010
Why the fuck are all top 10 lists opinion based? Shouldn't they be ranked by how influential they are? We do this for books, music, and movies but when it comes to games it's always "Top 10 X games (but are really just my favorite games)".

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>top 100 best games of all time
>a bunch of nintendo games all on the list
>only sega game is sonic 3 and its number 95

>>385784979
Gaming journalism isn't actual journalism.

>>385783361
>Top 100 games of all time
>#5: Skyrim

>>385784979
>based
biased
and i'm sure that 99% of all top x lists are based upon the author's opinion

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>>385784925
Didn't Darth Vader win some huge video game villain contest a while back?

>>385785072
>top 50 greatest developers of all time
>1. Shigeru Miyamoto
>48. Yu Suzuki

>>385783419
>skyrim is top 100

>>385784678
>implying modern consoles are better in terms of games, rather than graphics because graphics don't make a good game

>>385785293
>implying implications

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Hello.

>>385784925
>top video game villains list
>/v/ rigs it

>>385784586
>>385784426
hl2 was only "good" in 2004
even then, if you stripped away the "amazing visuals" and the "innovative physics" there's nothing more than extremely shallow gameplay, unoriginal story, forgettable score
no need to mention the game shoving down it's garbage physic engine down the player's throat with stupid gimmicks every five seconds
Art design is pretty good for the most part.
HL1 is more fun and more valuable to the videogame industry. I get that it was pretty impressive in 2004, but its time to move on. the game was never good, and it gets worse every passing year

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>>385783361
>no Mega Man games made the list

>Golden eye 64 is in the top 10

Most overrated FPS ever.

>>385785453
This is the best non-loli game ever, what's the problem here?

>>385783361
I hate that. I mean I understand how influental some games are, but that does not make them good games. Pong sucks balls by today standards. Only timeless game is Tetris that deserves to be on every top 100 list.

>>385785729

Oh nothing... just showing love for this amazing game. Trying to steer things to be a bit more cheery!

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>Top 100 games of all time
>Theme Park World is on the list
>Rollercoaster Tycoon isn't

>>385785647
>hl2 was only "good" in 2004
Dude in 2004 when it came out people were jizzing all over it like it was the second coming of Christ. PC gamer gave it the highest rating they'd given any game at that point, a fucking 98%. I remember these things, I remember people in school talking about it that didn't even play PC games.

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>>385783361
Woody and company saw Andy's first fap.
Thought i'd let you know.

>>385785843
I only ever played the PS2 spider man game

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>>385785662
What of it?

>4 - Fallout 4

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>Dark Souls is #1

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>>385786126
forgot image

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>>385786183
It's not really but I do love that game

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>10: Undertale

>>385784059
deus ex at #1 isnt that bad though. idk about the rest of the list

>>385783361
>top 100 games of all time list
>Pong is not number one
If you make such a bullshit list you have to rate the games relative to the year of their release and by that logic Pong is the greatest of them all because it was literally perfect when it came out.

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>fallout 2 is lower than 1
>1 is lower than New Vegas
>New Vegas is lower than 3
>3 is lower than 4
>4 is in the Top 5 games along with Skyrim

>>385786504
this, it's probably not in the top 5 but it's gotta be up there

>>385786334
this image is my fetish

comin in at number hundred, it's gotta be tumbler 2

>several top lists from various different authors on vastly different websites
>the lists are all identical
It's like they just parrot each other non-stop.

>>385783419
>>385785145
>>385785280

Edgelords. Most if not all of us sunk hundreds of hours into skyrim. If you weren't able to enjoy the game near release then I feel really bad for you.

>>385786804
sounds familiar...

>post a top 100 game that will trigger /v/

>Modern Warfare 2

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>>385786597
>lower numbers are better, as number one is the best
>games with the lowest number are referred to as being the highest on the list
>games with higher numbers are referred to as being lower on the list
>games with the lowest five numbers are referred to as the top 5
I had to reread you post to make sense of it. Sorry for being so stupid anon.
F2 > New Vegas > 1 > 3 > 4

>>385784979
Dark Souls and Bloodborne were made after 2010 and definitely deserve a spot in the top 10.

>>385786973
Modern Warfare 2 was actually pretty damn fun back in the day. I also enjoyed World at War.

>>385786973
minecraft

I admittedly love skyrim not because of it's story but because holy shit the world is cool and you can make words hurt people and I like it.

And the weapons are pretty neat.

>>385787093
What an original thought...never thought I'd see those 2 obscure games mentioned on /v/

>>385786973
only low-t nerds didn't have fun with MW2

>>385786869
that game is poop
it just got popular because of the meme factor
the combat is the best part and it's not very good
the story isn't very compelling, and, except for the starts, the voice acting is pretty bad which combined with shitty animation ruins the atmosphere of the game, despite the amazing scope of the world.
it's a problem with all elder scrolls games, they spread their development time to thin over a huge scope and it all ends up watered down.

>>385787165
I don't think you even know what I'm talking about.

>>385787248
I boycott the CoD series after 4 because they took out leaning. Yes, I'm still salty about it.

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>Top 10 best games of all time
>10 - Tetris/Pong/Wolfenstein/Galaga
>9 - Nintendo game
>8 - Nintendo game
>7 - Nintendo game
>6 - Nintendo game
>5 - Valve game
>4 - nostalgic Nintendo game
>3 - overrated Nintendo game
>2 - Super Mario Bros (3/World)
>1 - Ocarina of time

>>385787308

They aren't balanced for lean.

>>385784586
2 is technology tier but nowhere as good as 1 was

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>>385786869
We enjoyed it despite it's flaws, if anything having played the game will give you perspective as to why the game shouldn't be very high on that list, if at all. Sure it's fun, but it's not well designed or developed. Fun isn't always an indicator for a game being good, never mind being objectively good. We are on about an objective list here, of games with sound design and development decisions. If we're just going off how much fun we had, then it's nothing but a list of opinions.

>>385787279
>the combat is the best part and it's not very good
I agree that the combat is weak, but I don't believe that was the best thing about the game. The best thing about Skyrim was the amount of content and exploration available to the player, I suppose combat was involved in that exploration and content, but I think the thing it did best was make you want to see what's around the next corner or over that hill. That's just my opinion however, if I had to objectively look at the best thing about Skyrim I'd need more time, I haven't played it in a while, never mind having played a vanilla copy in a while.

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>list from a few years ago has a bunch of fotm games from the time that everyone forgot about already

>>385784979
>Shouldn't they be ranked by how influential they are?
Some games are infuential and still hold up, some games are influential but don't hold up as well, some games are influential but hard to measure because of how simple they are

>>385787093
No they don't. They're completely unremarkable ARPGs that only got popular because the ARPG market was being completely ignored for years. The only things heavily marketed were Bioware and Blizzard garbage. The fact that Souls was merely competent was enough to make it a hugely popular series.

Bloodborne has great art design but it's still not a particularly remarkable game.

>>385787308
It went back in ghost and pretended that they invented leaning

>>385785662
>Megaman game on the list
>Its 2 because muh soundtrack

>>385786869
I sunk one or two hundred hours into it too, but it wouldn't make my top 50.

>>385787660
>They're completely unremarkable ARPGs
They both have some of the best level design in all of 3D gaming. Hell all of them do.

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I haven't played counter-strike in a while but do you guys reckon is should make the list? When it comes down to design and balancing I think it's top tier.

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>top 10 list
>2 or more games from same franchise

>>385786594
That sounds like a retarded way to list something, games like Pong are always hard to list because of how simple they are, influence is one thing but when you put shit like Pong or Galaga next to more complex games its not even a fair fight

>>385787279
I don't know about that.. I'm pretty sure quite a few of us were excited at launch for skyrim.
All of those complaints are fantastic, but I distinctly remember in 2011 not having those issues. In fact, I remember playing it for 2 weeks non-stop, picking it up again for the DLC and then again on PC for mods.

>>385786973
How about a top 10 games that trigger or used to trigger /v/?

>>385787878
one word

negev

>>385784979
>Shouldn't they be ranked by how influential they are?
You'd literally just have Super Mario Bros., Super Mario 64, and Doom in the top three spots every single time

Make your personal top 10,000 games of all time now. Come Friday I will make a thread for you all to post it in.

>>385784979
why would you expect any "influential" ranking in the top 10 greatest games of all time? i hate it when they do that. when i read a list like that, i do not want to play old ass pong because it was influential, i want to play the best games ever.

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>>385783361
>top 100 games of all time list
>The best version of Pong isn't on the list

>>385786869
Either you're baiting, or truly believe that, either way you're dumb as fuck and skyrim is shit. Also, it took me less than 10 hours to realise that and never play that game again.

>>385787824
Level design is pretty decent but there's nothing interesting to do with it except walk slowly through it. You have little in the way of vertical mobility, the platforming is unbelievably awful, and in general you're just wandering around either gawking at the art design or engaging in combat that barely makes use of the strengths of the level design.

Souls is just not that interesting a series. I know its fans think its the be all end all of video games but basically everything the series does has been done far better elsewhere. Aesthetics are really the only thing I think stand out in the series.

>>385784326
fuck you, skate series are great

>>385788087
But no Pong

>>385784979
>Why are top lists for games opinion based? They should be opinion based like books, music, movies...
You're asking for sales to largely dictate a top list over quality, so you'd get largely similar lists that we have now, just shuffled around. I agree there needs to be a way to actually quantify these lists, but your opinion is ignorant of the reality that other mediums have lists just as shitty.

In reality the best you can do is have a panel that has all played an agreed upon group of games and then have set rules and regulation on voting and what constitutes "quality."

>>385787578
There aren't a whole lot of games that existed in 2011 with the scope of skyrim. Yes, there were games with more elaborate story, but they had even worse graphics and combat.

Skyrim had the best graphics at the time when it came down to the type of game it is. Skyrim out-performed the previous elder scrolls games in terms of graphics and combat. Overall, it was good. I can't think of 100 games better than Skyrim actually. I would have to be a massive weeb to genuinely believe that.

>>385785647
>forgettable score
Score was fucking amazing, fuck off. Also, the game is still better than most games, you faggot.

>>385787093
Ehhh, I'll have to agree with >>385787660 here when he says;
>Bloodborne has great art design but it's still not a particularly remarkable game
I love Demon's Souls and the original Dark Souls is probably one of my favorite games, Bloodborne was good too but I don't see it being near anywhere as good as the first two Souls games. It was far too easy and I much prefer the medieval fantasy setting of the other games. If we're looking at it objectively though and not from my anecdotal standpoint, it is perhaps the best designed out of all of them, I just didn't enjoy it as much as the others.

>>385788305
Take off the nostalgia goggles m8. Halo CE does everything HL done, but better. Except perhaps the atmosphere of ravenholm.

Ravenholm is the only part of the game that didn't age like shit.

>>385788121
Either you're a weeb or an edgelord that hates videogames so he sits on 4chan/youtube on his gaming computer, combing over screenshots to point out low res textures.

>>385788087
>10,000

>>385788413
I just wish the textures were sharper and less early-2000's. It's not that big of an issue, but it's something I'd like to see.

>>385788303
You haven't played that many games then. Classic WRPGs from DOS-early windows era blow shit like Skyrim away. Let's not even get into how technically flawed the game is. It's a sandbox, and a deeply flawed sandbox at that. Maybe it has a place on a top 100 list if you narrowed games down to popularity and within a certain timeframe, but if you had played every game ever, it wouldn't even come close. It's a shallow game. You sound like the people who have anything positive to say about Fallout 3.

>>385784326
Nigga Pyre just came out.

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>Top 10 Games of All Time list
>10-4: Chrono Trigger, Super Mario Bros. 3 / World / 64, Resident Evil 4, Mass Effect 2, Portal 2, Half Life 2, Metroid Prime, Doom, or Pac-Man in some order
>3: Skyrim
>2: Tetris
>1: Ocarina
Did I make the most generic list possible?

>>385788636
Fallout 3 single handedly killed Hitler and ended racism forever

>>385785250
>Kamiya and Mikami not on the list
>sid meier gets credit for games he was barely involved in
>warren spector gets credit for the accomplishments of paul neurath
>cain and boyarsky don't even get a mention while avellone is near the top
I hate those fucking lists

>>385788275
Not him but this is the part that is giving me a headache, its like comparing playing with rocks with playing with toys, obviously rocks were more popular at some point and I am sure there is someone who will prefer that over toys, but how to measure and compare both? Toys are more complex and influential but rocks are "a classic"

My point is that entertainment (>fun) is not something you can easily pinpoint and order, the event of the lists being based on subjective and vague standards makes sense because different people will have different amounts of fun with a game, you can't rely on popularity or sales either because games are not equally exposed to the public

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>>385788153
No, the fact that everything in interconnected and verticality stacked makes it some of the best.

>>385788763
Fallout 3 is an allegory about Flint Michigan.

>>385785692
I agree but I wouldn't be averse to Perfect Dark being in a top ten FPS of all time list.

>>385788636
Have you tried playing classic WRPGs recently? The graphics are terrible, there's waaay too much text/dialogue, clunky or over-complicated combat, lack of direction, too many useless items, bad camera, etc.. Skyrim might not have been the greatest game ever, but for 2011 it was the best at everything in the category it was in, besides maybe purely story. But even then, it was alright.

>>385788757
You forgot that one game you played when you were a kid and you are totally not being a nostalgiafag

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>Mass effect andromeda is on the list because it just came out

>>385788303
>Overall, it was good. I can't think of 100 games better than Skyrim actually.
One hundred is a lot of games, I'd have to have a real think to name that many better than Skyrim too. I'm honestly not sure if it'd make my list of not and I do agree that it's a good game. You've got to remember that this is about the top games of all time though, meaning it's graphics and combat, however good they were on release, doesn't matter when compared to the newer games. It's like all those people listing Half Life 2, sure the physics were impressive back then, but now we have games which have improved on those physics and utilized them better. The game itself is heavily flawed, outside of it's scope, which is one of the positives I mentioned in my previous post when I spoke about content, it doesn't have much going for it. Comparing it's combat to previous TES games is good and all, but that's not really relevant in a game discussion regarding every game ever.

>>385788636
I absolutely enjoyed fallout 3 when it came out. It was a lot of fun, again most of us here probably sank 100+ hours into that game too.

>>385788424
I do enjoy eastern game when they are not kawaii uguu~ bullshit, though I do hate most of the modern AAA games, you simply can't deny that industry is in shithole right now.
And no, low res textures is not why skyrim is shit, skyrim is shit because bethesda doesn't care about their games, the writing is shit, 95% of quest ends with you going into dungeon, solving dumbfuck retarded puzzle and killing draugrs, combat is uninspired, the world is not immersive, actual role playing is shit because every character is limited to HURR DURR DOWAKHIN WORLD SAVIOUR and only then the personality you imagined for him (just like in Fallout 4, btw), it's fucking riddled with retarded bugs and on top of that the engine feel like a load of crap, though it is the same engine as in Bioshock, where it felt normal. I did like art direction and world design, but it doesn't excuse boring repetitive gameplay.
Now fuck off, here's your (you).

>>385788853
Fallout 3 is an allegory for Fallout 4

>>385788121
>>385789089
retard

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>>385788867
I played FO1&2 recently and had fun with them

>>385784775
>no achievements is a bad thing
>multiplayer is a bad thing
>no dlc is a bad thing

>>385788867
I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree on that, I think it tried to do everything and failed in a lot of areas, even when compared to previous TES games. I'm not the guy you replied to, but like I said here >>385788997 it's not up against just the older TES games. When you say
>but for 2011 it was the best at everything in the category it was in
Not only do I disagree with that very bold statement, it's irrelevant if it was the best at something in 2011 as it's 2017 now can this is about every game made ever, including games which have released since 2011 and now. So if it was the best at something then, it sure isn't anymore.

>>385789089
You had that EXACT mentality in 2011? It sounds like you purchased skyrim a few months ago and are now like HURR DURR game iz shit FF14 realm reborn and MGS5 IZ better!!!!

>>385788843
The biggest problem with lists just being "whatever" is that they are supposedly drawing from the entirety of games but the author obviously has not played even a sizable fraction of what exists and is in fact way more likely to be familiar with more recent titles based upon their writing of the article during that time. If you know at least that their subjective ranking of titles is based upon a certain subset of games, it becomes far more reasonable to then start trying to quantify "quality" of videogames within ranks. Having overall lists is weaker than genre-focused ones, but even then sometimes genres get fuzzy. You're acting as if games cannot be compared at all-- which is totally untrue. Anything can be compared, it's just a matter of setting your parameters for importance and justifying your decisions reasonably. A panel drawing from similar experiences also smooths over outliers because while you're right, a top game list should not be purely a popularity contest, a top list is ultimately for the "everyman" in that it is best when it appeals to most people. Please note that there is a difference here in saying a list that reflects common tastes is good versus just wanting things everyone has already played. The idea is a list would be roughly ranked as if those casuals that only played Skyrim had invested enough hours in enough RPGs (as the judges had) to make a more informed decision.

As a final point, I would like to reassert that comparing within the same genre to be way more productive in that you have more angles of comparison to make within the entire subset you are grading. A reasonable panel should be able to convene somewhat like a supreme court where they come in to a discussion already been given and taken in all data (that is, the games themselves) and then have any large points overall debated or discussed before submitting to a vote which each panelist can then justify as need arises.

>>385788847
Every Arkane, LGS and Ionstorm Austin game (other than Invisible War) has better level design than Souls. So do Gothic 1 and 2. So does Metroid Prime. Souls is on par with Zelda level design, which is still high praise, but by no means is it up there in the best of the best.

>>385788413
I replayed it a year or so ago and had a blast, I do agree it has flaws and could be improved, but overall it's a better game than most right now. Also, I do not like halo series.

I've never seen a top 100 games I've even come close to agreeing with. If it's a critic, the top 10 is a bunch of Bethesda trash or Ocarina of Time (probably Breath of the Wild these days). If it's a public one, it's Deus Ex which is honestly just garbage. Looks and plays like shit.

Do influential pieces of media deserve to be placed on a "best of" pedestal because people took concepts from it and made it into something better?

The original Japanese Godzilla is a boring movie in its own right, but it alone is responsible for dozens of movies and games that you love.

>>385789420
He's not talking about the levels themselves or their design, just their interconnectivity and the world design. The level design in souls is rather simplistic, but doesn't mean it's not good, the way it all connects up is what makes it good.

>>385789407
Good point, its even easier to compare games if they are spiritual successors or remakes of each other, I can safely claim that Doom is superior to Wolfenstein 3D and that FRLG are superior to RBG which are both superior to Yellow, ask me to compare Galaga with Star Fox 64 and I won't know what to say

>>385788867
Citing the graphics first is physically paining me and shows your horrible ideas for what constitutes quality of gameplay. Skyrim itself was not graphically impressive and continues to not be vanilla. As time passes, it falls further and further behind on that irrelevant point. As long as a game's graphics do not inhibit the user experience, it's basically a non-issue and is only a plus when the devs do something creative with them. Skyrim is no more graphically interesting than a Might and Magic game. They serve their purpose.

There's way too much repeated text/dialog in Skyrim. Skyrim's combat suffers as being weightless and clunky. It's horribly buggy. There are too many useless items. Physics are tied to framerate which can ruin the game, etc.It's mechanically shallow (in fact, more mechanically shallow than, say, Morrowind in many ways) and your argument for it doing anything as the best is laughable. Please, pick one thing Skyrim was ever the best at and empirically defend it.

>>385789591
>The original Japanese Godzilla is a boring movie in its own right, but it alone is responsible for dozens of movies and games that you love.
Shit like this is why "honorable mentions" exist and should be used

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>top 10 games
>Skyrim, Oblivion, Morrowind, Daggerfall, Arena, Fallout 3, and Fallout 4 are on the list

>>385789609
I didn't say the level design was bad. I put it on par with Zelda, that's high fucking praise. Don't expect me to suck its dick because it did something that was done better in Gothic and System Shock years earlier.

>>385789710
>Physics are tied to framerate which can ruin the game
This, I sure did have fun getting killed by flying fruit when running over 60fps.

>Write top 100 _____ of all time article
>website gets a million hits because autists come to debate the list
easiest internet money ever

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>>385789420
Again no.

>>385789358
I did not even play it in 2011 because I was sick of bethesda bullshit, I did not like oblivion (though in terms of quests it was WAY better) and I hated Fallout 3. I played Skyrim for the first time in 2015, played like less than 10 hours, realised how boring it was and turned it off. However, we're not talking about 100 best game of 2011 at the time, we're talking about 100 of all time, surely I can see how someone could consider Skyrim the best game of the 2011 (even though fucking Portal 2 deserves that title), but it doesn't stand the test of time. I think when you make a list of 100 best games of all time that means you can pick up a game from 20 years ago and still have fun with it.

>>385788112
Clearly the best version of Pong is Windjammers.

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>>385789757
>top 10 games
>Skyrim is in there 4 times

I think at least one Yakuza game deserves to be on the list

>>385789768
I'm saying the level design is bad, it's probably not even on par with Zelda desu, I'm trying to move the conversation away from level design and refocus it on world design and interconnectivity. I agree that System Shock and Gothic had just as good world design, the level design was also better than Souls. But when you mentioned Arkane you were obviously specifically talking about the design of the individual levels and not their interconnectivity which integrates into the world design. I'm not trying to get you to suck Dark Souls' dick, I'm just saying that you were discussing level design with an anon which wasn't talking about the same thing.

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>#1: Super Mario Bros.

>>385788757
>Mass Effect 2
It will never fail to make me angry when I see this near the top. Fucking PC Gamer, used to be a decent magazine and now it's just a bunch of retards who praise whatever was made within the past 5 years as being the best shit ever made.

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>legend of zelda isn't number one

>>385789793
Jokes on them, we're discussing it here and we haven't even seen a list.

>>385789048
Saying you enjoyed a game is different than claiming a game is good. When I was five I enjoyed playing the Incredible Crash Dummies for NES. I would not call that a game of quality even if I can, to this day, still derive some small pleasure from revisiting it. Fallout 3 is a mess of a game on every front and what people seem to pull from it most is the "faffing about" you can do in it. Games like GTA, Red Dead, Skyrim, Fallout 3, etc are often cited as amazing because you can make your own adventure to some degree, but mechanically all of those titles listed tend to be heavily flawed and weak in other ways. I would argue that the "faffing about" part of Fallout 3 is the only merit it has to stand on at all.

>>385789358
>we have now lived long enough to see skyrim nostalgiafags
Stop the ride I want to get off.

http://time.com/4458554/best-video-games-all-time/

This is objectively the worst video game list of all time right?

>>385789591
Original Godzilla holds up. It's still a decent watch.

>>385790169
You haven't been part of a thread where someone says something like "I loved that game as a kid" and they are referring to a game only as old as Skyrim or Fallout 3 or Borderlands 1 or MW2? It's not even uncommon to see people shitting on 2D games

Holy shit an actually very interesting thread on /v/?

>>385790169
I played it when it first came out and could never get further than 10-15 hours in it. I made a lot of new characters but the game was just really boring for me. The quests weren't nearly as entertaining as oblivion in my opinion.

>>385787040
Stop posting in my board.

>>385790153
I'm not that same anon, I'm just chiming in to say I agree to an extent. I did just start playing Fallout 3, I'm about an hour and a half in using the tales of two wastelands mod and I'm not noticing many differences from it and New Vegas aside from that it has an actual opening scene.

>>385790302
I'm the guy you're replying to.

I'm not going to say that Godzilla created many of the tropes it perpetuated, but when you watch it you know people have been influenced by it, with its ideas of a "destructive force of nature", "an abomination as a result of science", "the good guy who developed a weapon of mass destruction and has to use it begrudgingly." I'm sure anybody will watch it and see something in it that has been used in another movie/game they like.

Like, I don't think you'd have the Kamen Rider series if Godzilla didn't exist.

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>>385790380
>he thinks he can make me leave
w-what did I say wrong though anon?

>>385790239
This list honestly isn't that bad if they just clarified how they picked the games and what the process was. It's very clearly the games they thought "defined" or "changed" gaming in the sense that those games did something that made what they did mainstream. It's very clearly made from people thinking up a list of what they felt were "important" games and then paring them down and shuffling them about based upon those same notions. If they were upfront with these ideas, it would make sense mostly. It's ultimately a shit list because any usefulness derived from it is simply giving yourself a pat on the back for knowing the supposed best games of all time.

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>top 100 SNES rpg list
Lufia 2 is #1

>>385790326
Fucking depressing. I still find it hard to believe that people are nostalgiafagging for PS2 era stuff. And now we've got these fucking children praising garbage like Skyrim and Mass Effect.

I will attempt the most generic list ever
10 - Fallout 3
9 - Half Life / 2
8 - GTAV
7 - Doom / Wolfenstein 3D
6 - Pong
5 - Portal
4 - A link to the past / The Legend of Zelda (1)
3 - Super Mario Brothers / 64
2 - Super Metroid
1 - Ocarina of tim

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>>385790543
1 isn't the best

>>385787040

1 > 2 >>>>>>> NV >>>> 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4

>>385790586
Fuck I should have put tetris at number 2 and put Super Metroid in Pong or GTAV's spot

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>>385783361
>stickers on laptop

Why would anyone do this?

>>385790302
also, replying again.

Godzilla really isn't that interesting to watch. Other people have taken ideas from it and have done it better. I don't see myself sitting down to watch through it again, but I respect the movie.

>>385790586
>>385783361
Seriously don't understand this, just because it's old doesn't mean it's good, it's likely the worst game ever made.

>>385790302
I mean I wasn't really talking about that at all. I'm just disputing the idea that it's boring. I watched it for the first time a couple years back and I thought it held up pretty well. It's not flawless or anything but calling it boring is a bit overly negative.

>>385790683
>>385787040
2>1=NV>4>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>3

are we all in agreement that Mario Three is the GOAT V?

>>385790595
>>385790683
I guess I should replay one then, it's been at least 5 years since I played the first two.

>top 10000000000000000000000000000 games of ALL time
>Only fighting game is the latest Mortal Kombat/NRS garbage or SF if you're lucky

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>>385783361
>1. ocarina of time
>2. mario 64
>3. mario world

>>385783361
>no Wipeout or F-Zero
Yes I can like both

>>385785967
This raises an important question.

Do any of you fap in the same room as your pets?

>>385790731
>it's likely the worst game ever made
All this tells me is that you don't play many games. Pong is perfectly fine. It's not amazing but the fact that it's enjoyable in any way whatsoever instantly makes it better than any Sierra adventure game outside of the Quest for Glory series.

>>385788969
>Mass effect ads all over the site

>>385790825
I like 3 more than World but I think they're about equal really. Arguing about which is best is pretty pointless. 3 has a better level of challenge, World has more varied level design and exploration.

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>>385790945
No. I don't need my dog to look at me with those sad puppy eyes when I jack off.

>>385786597
>fallout 2 is lower than 1
What's wrong with this?
2 is too wacky and far buggier

>>385790952
>pong is perfectly fine

it's literally two lines and a dot, I mean there isn't a bar lower than pong. There are genuinely bad games control wise but content wise all Pong has is functionality. There is literally no reason to play it even over a bad game.

>>385790945
Yes

Who are they gonna tell? Doctor Dolittle?

>>385790945
Sometimes, who gives a fuck if my dog is on my bed behind me while I'm jacking it at my desk? He's not going to know.

>>385791232
He can smell when you do it, anon. He knows exactly what you're up to.

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>>385790586
>Ocarina of Tim

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>>385790945
One day I did, and my cat did a lunging attack onto my member from the top of her perch. There was so much. Fucking. Blood. Never again.

pic related
>mfw

>>385791364
please tell me you just drew this

>>385791364

Replace every single one of Link's grunts with this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LehNm4VVqJI

>>385791414
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKK8orrcwUY

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>SMB1 is #1

>>385791117
>muh graphics
Pong may have been surpassed in pretty much every way but that doesn't make the original game bad. There are BAD games out there. Pong is not a bad game, it is a simple game. When you say Pong is bottom tier, you're putting it below crap like Big Rigs or Pit Fighter. It's possible to enjoy Pong, not so for those games.

I once saw a list that had the original Zelda as #1.
Like holy shit, how can you be such a fucking hipster cunt?

>>385791389
Geez.

Did you have to go to the hospital? Was there a permanent wound?

>>385791773
You can literally recreate pong in any "bad" game, provided you're not actually autistic you could create pong right now. Big Rigs is 100% better. Glitchs doesn't matter you can create more than pong within that game.

>>385791452
>"That Home Improvement sound" is this nigga serious its just Tim as the actor/comedian doing his signature grunting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XUg5cfwilI

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>>385791773
>It's not possible to enjoy big rigs

>>385787729
Megaman 3 and 6 had a better soundtrack.

>>385784979
>we do this for books, music, and movies
Which are generally measured by:

a/ opinion
b/ money made
c/ both

You realize if gaming had an equal to the Oscars in scale...Gone Home would basically win every year...right? All 'muh story' walking simulators would be the gaming equal of Oscar bait

>>385792039
>game is so bad that you can glean more enjoyment from making up things to do in it than you can from actually playing it was it was designed
>somehow that makes it better than a game that is actually fun to play as it was designed
No. There is nothing inherently wrong with pong, simplicity is not a sin. You're just a tiresome faggot who can't handle old games, I bet you hate Snake as well.

>>385784326
>sports games can't be good
literally the mindset of an autistic child

>>385791936
Nah I was really trying to avoid having to explain to a doctor what happened. Just mummified my dick essentially, to stop the bleeding. There's now a small-ish "crater" on my shaft where the hole was but it's not too noticeable thankfully.

>>385787729
MM2 was my first Megaman game so I have a huge hard on for it. I feel like it's the same for a lot of people

>top 10 games include portal, tetris or OoT
Don't get me wrong they're all good games but certainly not top 10 worthy.

Also:
>top 30 games contain a bunch of modern triple A titles like nu-tomb raider, uncharted, ass creed, borderlands, far cry 3 etc

>>385792204
Well Gone Home is a good game

Brave Fencer Musashi belongs on any top 100

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>>385783361
>WoW is in the top 5

>>385792952
>but certainly not top 10 worthy.
And what's worthy top 10 for you

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>>385788087
That's pretty tight, can I expand on That a little?

>>385784487
Where's his monocle?

>>385787279
>The game is only popular because it is a meme
Whatever you need to tell yourself, contrarian

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>>385783361
>#1: Super Mario Bros

>>385784678
The SNES and PS2 have the best game libraries of all time. Prove me wrong.

>>385786869
>If you weren't able to enjoy the game near release then I feel really bad for you.
>Implying a game is good if you can only enjoy it while it's fresh and has hype

>>385793589
>he thinks it's contrarian to dislike skyrim
You must not venture outside of your sheltered existence very often. Plenty of people have hated Skyrim since it launched and turned out to be just another fucking Oblivion with even less content and interesting quests. It didn't even get something as good as Shivering Isles to kind of make up for the profound disappointment.

>>385793805
>Prove me wrong.
PC. Now go cry.

>>385791452
like this but oot?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NF-XMtNEudQ

>>385794201
>people disliking skyrim
>anywhere other than /v/ the contrarian capital of videogames
Why do you lie. Even after release people on /v/ liked it. It was you nu faggots who started the "it's bad" meme

Pong is the first video game ever made tho... It deserves to be number 1 just for that

>>385794250
PC is carried by emulators (which are present in some consoles too), without it it's not really that special.

What's up with the butthurt Sony fags?

>>385783781
>sega in any list

>>385784678
NES is pretty legit though you faggot

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>>385783361
>Top 10
>7/10 of them are nintendo games

>>385786869
funny thing is I spent over 100 hours in skyrim but i dont remember a damn thing that happened in it

>>385794857
See>>385794592

The problem with a top10 games is that it needs to decide what it needs to prioritize, quality or influence. Let me take a franchise i like as an example, Tekken.

If you ask most tekken fans or fighting game fans what is the best tekken, most answers will go to something like 5DR, which is the best technically speaking. But the INFLUENTIAL one was Tekken3, which i'm almost sure is the best seller fighting game of all time and literally the most well known 3d fighter.

So which would, if it made it in, have more PRIORITY or higher position in the list, the technically best one (Tekken 5DR) or the most influential one (Tekken 3)?

>>385795154
Virtual Fighter 1/2 are way more influential than pooken

>Top 5 are all NES games

I don't fucking care how good the original Zelda was when you got it for Christmas you fucking faggot. There have been tons of newer games that are objectively better.

>>385796571
no you just have shit tastes, never too late to fix them

>Twitter is number 1
Wow Charlie Brooker has so much insight into society and modern culture!

>>385783361
>caring about top 100 games lists

How insecure do you have to be to have your opinions validated by some random guy on the internet?

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>>385792039
>big rigs is a better game then pong cause you make pong in big rigs

>>385784326

>he doesn't know about Tecmo Super Bowl

>>385787743
>one or two hundred hours into it too, but it wouldn't make my top 50

Stop the bullshit and name the 50 other games you sunk 200 hours in then.

>>385786973
Witcher 3, Skyrim, Fallout 3. Any game that was really popular basically triggers the autist into a sperg ree.

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>>385783361
>TLoU on the list at all
>Half-Life above Half-Life
>Minecraft

>>385790945
Dog, no, cat, yes.

What is your top 10?

>>385787248
>>385787308
Nope, I played Halo 3, Symmetrical Arena FPS or bust.

>>385798924
Half-life 2 above Half-Life*

>>385798924
>posting a school shooter

WOW SO EDGY

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>any souls game is on any list ever

>>385798979
One per series.
1. Majoras Mask
2. Halo CE
3. Super Metroid
4. Paper Mario
5. DKC2
6. SMW
7. RE2
8. New Vegas
9. Sonic 3&K
10. Mystical Ninja starring Goemon

>>385799159
I really hope you're playing along with the "Sam Hyde is a killer" joke and you've not just saying that because you think it's true.

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>top 100 list
>Zelda or Mario is #1

>>385799478
I really hope one day you will stop being such a huge pseud doubting the intelligence of others out of hand.

Pong is literally a perfect game.

>console games in the Top 100
>normie games in the Top 100

>>385783361
Why not?

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>>385799737
>bringing up a forced meme just because an image was posted
>being a niggor

>>385783361
I will actually be mad at any list that doesn't put tetris:TGM in the first place

>>385799878
>makes a meme post
>complains when he gets a meme reply

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>Top 100 games list
>No David Cage games on there

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>top greatest video game sidekicks
>Launchpad McQuack

>>385784326
It only works if you have some way to affect other players. A bare-bones racing game is closer to a single player game.

>>385786869
I liked Oblivion more than Skyrim, and those are the only TES games I've played. I actually dropped Skyrim pretty quick because of how dull it was. Totally lacking in personality. The fact that the exploration and atmosphere are the only good parts of the game and were still mediocre is a serious indictment of the game.

>>385783361
pong is actually tight pure mechanic game, wish more games took shit from pong than films or books.

>>385788049
counter strike, not counter skins, global gambling.

>>385786334
thanks for giving me fucking aids

>>385783361
>Gone Home is in the list

>>385783361
>Dark Souls isn't no.1
In the trash these shitty ""journalists"" go