Why do people say this game aged badly?

>>385783052
they haven't played it but still want to shit on it

>>385783052
egoraptor did an explanation of how it was shit or something, and because he did ebin newgrounds animations and played videogames on a couch with a fat persian people took him seriously for some reason, no one bothered to think "wait a second this guy can't figure out how to play games while the jew who hasn't touched a console since the NES and just watches him can, he might not be the greatest authority on this"

Because it did. The rotational velocidensity is so bad on my old disk that the shadow temple has been entirely cut from the game.

It's just button-mashing with shitty puzzles.

>>385783052
>Why do people say this game aged badly?
>posts image of hd texture mod made years after release meant for emulators

>>385783052
It looks and plays just fine to me. Some people are extremely prissy.

>>385783461
>disk

>>385783663
>he doesn't have the collector's edition disk
It's a good thing I don't have the cartridge anymore because it would be even worse

because it's a nintendo game, aka a game designed for children.

>>385783461
Aaayyy

People want to "dethrone the king" but can't really think of any valid criticism, so they just toss out vague and broad points like "it aged".

>>385783743
>Disk
>Disc

DisC. CDs are Discs. A harddrive is a Disk.

>>385783052
I am honestly surprised how well it holds up considering its been 20 years.

>>385783924
>its been 20 years
fucking delete this

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>>385783052
Compared to most games out now OoT feels lackluster, but that's only because games have been doing what it did for years now, whereas back in 1998 it was astounding, especially when most franchises handled the transition to 3D poorly

I still say it holds up and despite all the sequels it's still the best 3D Zelda, which kind of says a lot about the direction the series has gone in

It was bad back then too.

>>385784112
Can you imagine that. Its older then half the posters on this godforsaken website.

The first good video games appeared around 1980 and ocarina of time came out in 98
barely 10 years later now that we are almost 40 years in it makes sense that it would be decimated by time thats like comparing a painting made in the 1700s to something made in photoshop.
Don't get me wrong at it's core OOT is a good game but I wouldn't recommend anyone play the n64 version, 3ds is very fun though
Just to be clear I've completed the 3ds version and played a little bit of the N64 version

>>385783898
hard drives are called disks because they have literal metallic disks inside them. they are the same word

>>385784141
If Ocarina of Time was released today, under an indy game maker (with different named characters due to copyrights), even with those graphics, people would still say it's GOTYAY.

It more than holds up against the GOTY candidates from the previous 5 years.

>>385784492
What exactly makes the 3DS version more playable to you?

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>>385784112
>mention OoT to a coworker at my job
>"What?"
>"You know, the Zelda on the N64"
>"Oh, that came out before I was born"

>>385784492
idk I think the N64 version is more then playable. I know the 3ds version did some improvements but its not so much it makes the older versions trash. I actually played through it with a friend again on my old cartridge because it was easier to bring then my wiiU.

>>385784862
I hope I'm never in this situation

>>385783052
Its just a term people use when they don't have legit criticisms

>>385784141
It's something that started up a lot of the conventions for not only 3D action games but modern games in general. If the 3DS release tells you anything it's that the game does hold up well because just polishing up the textures and other things made it amazing

>>385783663
>>385783898
>>385784517
You are both retarded
Disc vs. disk
grammerist.com
There is no consensus on the difference between disc and disk, and in many contexts the two are used interchangeably. Disk is the standard spelling for computer-related terms such as hard disk and floppy disk. Disc is the standard spelling for phonograph records, albums (in the figurative sense—a group of songs presented in sequence), and components of plows and brake systems. But both spellings are commonly used for (1) CDs, DVDs, and other compact optical disks; (2) flat, plate-like bones; (3) flat, circular objects, and (4) disk-shaped celestial bodies. There are trends: disc is more common than disk for CDs, DVDs, etc. and plate-like bones, and disk is more common for disk-shaped things in outer space. But these trends are not so pronounced as to be conclusive.

>>385783304
Egoraptor shot himself in the foot with GameGrumps as far as his game design opinions go. He lacks spacial awareness, he seriously can not handle games in 3D. A lot of his complains apply to every 3D game that most people here I'm sure have no issues thanks to the obvious "I gotta be careful, I still have guys behind me".

To Arin, what's NOT on the screen does not exist.

>>385784862
This sounds like you were talking about video games to someone who doesn't care very much about video games, I'm 18 and oot was a childhood defining game for me

>>385784862
>Intern at a company this summer that makes litte robots for kids to build in classrooms
>Some kids come into test them
>We somehow start talking about Zelda
>The first thing one kid asks me Ocarina of Time was my favorite
Those kids were pretty cool, though I felt like Michael Jackson talking to ten year olds.

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A lot of the dungeons are pretty tedious desu.

Found it a real struggle to get through when I replaced it. Keyhunting is boring.

>>385785173
He doesn't have a sense of object permanence? What the hell is he? A dog?

>>385783052
some eceleb told them to think that

>>385784862
Why are you working alongside people who aren't even in your age group? You should be their boss by now. Sounds like you really fucked up in life.

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>>385785362
Or an autist.
His Zelda runs on GG are horrible to watch, he forgets how to Parry in Wind Waker despite it being crucial to break the game's dificulty to smithereens and forgets the entirety of L-Targetting.

But that's not the worst part, being incapable to remember controls, no. The worst part is when he SEES enemies, he runs past them, he stops to look at something and the enemies he passed by? Obviously they catch up and hit him in the back
>"OH COME ON MAN THIS IS WHAT I MEAN BY BAD DESIGN HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT GUY WAS BEHIND ME"
If Danny's Shadow of the Colossus run taught me something, it's that the former-drugaddict jew who hasn't touched videogames since the NES is better than fucking Arin at grasping 3D spaces within a videogame.

can't have a nintendo game as the goat

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>>385783052

The graphics look like shit, but everything else is solid.

I love oot soo much I fuk it

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>>385783898

>>385785592
I always find it more enjoyable to watch Danny play than Arin. Not only is he not retarded when it comes to mechanics and 3D spaces, sometimes he's actually pretty good at it. Granted there are times where he just doesn't want to bother with certain mechanics but that's fine compared to Arin who likes to ignore integral parts of a game because they don't interest him.
Ex: Danny ignores holding pieces in Tetris because he thinks holding is for pussies
Arin ignores an entire level because he's bored so he does something to glitch the game and sequence break and then complains how broken the game is because it let him use an exploit

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>>385785730
That's why you have the 3ds version. It's the exact same game with improved graphics.

>>385786080
and ruined atmosphere.

>>385786080
shhhhh, you'll wake up the
>>385786153
ah shit

>>385783052
>Why do people say this game aged badly?

It really hasn't because I hear a lot of stories of people playing it for the first time and consider it a good game, just not a mindblowing game because everything it pioneered became standard a long time ago.

The reason people say it has aged poorly is because it has low replay value. And shockingly, people find the game boring after they've already beaten it several times.

>>385786153
Fuck off with this, the 3DS version is better in all respects. It even fixes the autistic aiming

>>385786078
I think you faggots should be shot in the mouth with a shit gun

>>385786285
What does that have to do with anything and why are you being so specific

>>385786078
Game Grumps was a fucking mistake, Danny somehow manages to be the only likeable person on that group/shitshow.

Really, when Arin gets out of his "safe space", that is the NES and SNES stuff, he fucks up painfully. Hell, even if he plays a same-generation thing like the Genesis chances are he'll fuck up.

>>385786153
atmosphere and nostalgia aren't the same thing

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>>385786398

>>385785157
as far as computers go
disk = magnetic
disc = optical

>>385785228
I'm glad I got my little brother to appreciate the n64 games. He's 13 now but I remember him playing on my N64 when he was 10 when I sat next to him and he saying:" Zelda is the best thing a human ever invented."
Such childish love for an old ass video game. That's why MM/OoT still hold up today. And that was after he played lots of PS2 games like Sly or Jak.

>>385786367
I agree Danny is pretty much the only likeable person there (except maybe Kevin who was only in a couple episodes but he seemed like a good kid)

Arin is autistic
Ross acts like a 12 year old and will do things so incredibly stupid it makes me wonder how anyone sees him as an adult (that one time he threw a croquet ball and hit Danny right in the head)
Suzy is bad for reasons everyone knows why just by looking at her
Barry seems nice but he's painfully unfunny
Ninja Brian is cool but his humor only mixes well with Danny and accidentally comes off as too intense with everyone else
I don't even know why Holly is in anything at all really
They might need to consider restructuring their LPs

>>385785362
>He doesn't have a sense of object permanence? What the hell is he? A dog?

Amazing but it's literally true. He even said on GG that he withdraws his "enemies off screen" complaint because someone presented the argument of object permanence. I'm glad he's able to change his mind when he knows he's clearly being retarded, but it also comes with the fact that he had no concept of it before that point. Which is fucking baffling because it's a basic requirement for an organism's survival. If you go to the zoo, find a primate, and make a ping pong ball disappear under a cup, the monkey will be astonished because he's capable of a mental model where he expected the ball to still be there. Toddlers are also capable of this. Yet Arin is not.

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>>385783052
The only thing that aged about it is the graphics and the overworld being shit

>>385786741
>They might need to consider restructuring their LPs
They won't. Underage kids who love twitch love them. It's like asking PewDiePie or Vegetta7777 to stop being shit.

>>385786873
They seriously would just be better with more guests/letting Matt and Ryan do something on the show

>>385783052
I really love OoT, but it has its fair share of issues. Majora's Mask is almost just a better version of OoT as well as Twilight Princess. Dark Souls also accomplished taking everything good about OoT and turning it into a masterpiece. Just because there's games that do what OoT tried better, doesn't mean OoT should be labeled as shit, I believe it's quite important in gaming history.

>>385786748
When you have supermarkets, instant cup noodles and comodities, survival of the fittest no longer applies and retards can flourish.

>>385785592
>Epee Em
Nice.

>>385787041
Survival of the fattest.

>>385786748
Does he have any stories of eating paint chips when he was little?

>>385787082
His anger issues being reflected at "muh 9/11" seems to me like pure undistilled faggotry trying to be justified by pity, but I enjoyed his EXE LP.

>>385787083
Pretty much, yes. And survival of the jewest. And considering how much dough Game Grumps brings to the table, he has mastered that art.

>>385786956
I'd like to see Danny/Brian more.

>>385787216
>I'd like to see Danny/Brian more
Excellent taste, they have far more chemistry than anyone on GG

>>385783052
The only thing that aged, not badly, is the graphics.

>>385784141
>Compared to most games out now OoT

you're talking graphics. not game design or pacing or story or any of the other things that make ocarina great. Game design never ages. In fact the game design of Ocarina is better than most games these days. not even nintendo can replicate it.

>>385786956
That's why I just watch supermega nigga

>>385787390
We have to take into account when OoT came out, graphically it looked breathtaking.
And when the Dreamcast arrived a year later it was just incredible.

>>385787010
>Majora's Mask is almost just a better version of OoT
lol MM will always be held back by being an awkward brother to Oot that was made too quick to provide much content. It was literally just a sidequest game with a timed mechanic to hide that.

>>385786741
>(that one time he threw a croquet ball and hit Danny right in the head)
source?

>>385787651
>It was literally just a sidequest game
I remember when it was called Zelda Gaiden by the internet and magazine backs in 1999

>>385783052
The controls of Nintendo 64 games didn't age well. There are a few reasons why the 3DS version is my favorite game.

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>>385787893
>speaks shit about the n64
>but those small ass buttons and nub of a stick certainly are better

yeah fuck off kid

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>>385784592
This. I played it for the first time 2 years ago and it easily fell into my list of favorite games.

>>385787934
The movement of characters on the Nintendo 64 is sloppy. And you don't have to like what I like.

>>385784862
I'm 22, but I definitely understood the importance of OOT growing up. Just depends on how invested you are in video games.

>>385786398
Having just played the game for the first time as of three months ago, that anon's absolutely right. The primitive 3D is a bit unsettling, completely lost that feeling when I tried the 3DS version.

>>385786080
I thought it was quite nice.

>>385784478
Its older then me not by much

>>385786253

Do we really have to post those comparison pics to shut you low-standard Nintendo apologists up?

>>385787651

Almost is the keyword.

>>385786080
I wish they did console remakes instead of handhelds, I'd love to see how that would look.

>>385787683
I have no idea which video he mentioned this in but it was like a year ago and he mentioned it as "the one time he ever got truly angry" but yeah I'm sure some fan took it out and posted it so just look it up

>>385788314
Oh fuck off, just because everything looked darker doesn't mean it was better

>>385788692
To be fair, the Bottom of The Well and the Shadow Temple lost a bit of what made them stand out.

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>>385788767
To be fair, Bottom of the Well (and probably Shadow Temple) was the earliest dungeon programmed into the game, during the awkward transition from NES/SNES style Zelda to "pretty Link" modern Zelda.
I forgot where it was (maybe the cutting room floor?) where I read it but Bottom of the Well was going to be the Hyrule Castle sewers a la ALttP but got repurposed. That's why it has so much unique architecture and textures not seen elsewhere like those demon heads.

>>385788692

Would you defend that atrocious Silent Hill "remake" as well?

Just because the OoT looks miraculous in comparison doesn't mean the changes are any less detrimental.

Nobody is saying the new OoT is garbage because of it but it most certainly detracts from the overall quality.

>>385788692
>ust because everything looked darker
that isnt the only problem but good job generalizing it like an idiot

>>385789092
What Silent Hill remake? I don't folllow Konami's exploits since the Arcade days.

>>385789360
>says that isn't the only problem but fails to bring any of the other "problems" up
>>385789092
The silent Hill "remasters" were done by amatures, oot 3d is much closer to the original vision of the game making it the definitive experience

>>385788054
Hahaha, those old days Photoshop was such a fancy new tool they used real wood photographies/texture to color skull kid's clothes and just color-replace over it.

>>385790081

I was pretty sure those amateurs were Konami themselves and the problem was they didn't have all the source data available from the original game and had to literally redo stuff but didn't keep in mind what the original design philosophy was.

>>385790081

>new version is the definitive version because it's closest to the original
>original isn't definitive because it's not as close to the original

???

>>385790285

I like it though it's like an artifical way to do water color.

>>385790515
>he only read half of it and his brain completely omitted the word vision
Your ADHD is acting up again
>>385790415
One of the people working on the remasters said "we can finally get a that pesky fog out of the way", they were absolutely retarded

>>385790603
I like it too, I wish it was done more but people would sperg and call it "lazy art".

Does the 3ds version also run at 20fps? I've been playing at 120hz for years and going that low while emulating hurts the eyes.

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>>385783052
>>385783558
I think it depends on what you mean by aged badly. It aged badly in that kids playing it for the first time will not enjoy it much compared to the games they are used to playing, but I would it say aged well in that it has replay-ability even after all these year.s

>>385783052
Anytime someone uses the phrase "aged like milk," what they really mean is "I think the graphics look ugly because I'm too young to remember all games looking like that."

Because it has aged badly.

Watch the Sequelitis video, it's long but it sums up everything wrong with it.

>>385794668
Sums up /v/

"I watched some loser I mean "e-celeb" so now my opinion is his.

>>385794668
That guy can't even read simple video game text. Stop using his video as any kind of legitimate criticism towards this game. He hates it just because it isn't exactly like Link to the Past, ffs.

>>385794883
The game is like 30 years old, who cares if it sucks? Get over it fanboi.

>>385795147
Keep it up anon someone will care next time.

>>385786252
>And shockingly, people find the game boring after they've already beaten it several times.
I still play this game annually and still enjoy it every time. But that's me.