Challenge: Try to prove Sonic Mania can't get any better

UNLOCKABLE

ROSY

It looks pretty boring and awkward to play

>>385779548
Explain.

File: 1469905515221.jpg (208KB, 480x800px) Image search: [Google]

208KB, 480x800px

>>385779438
It probably won't have Super Tails or Super Knuckles. That would make it better.

It probably won't have Tidal Tempest, that would make it better.

Rosy the Rascal would make it better.

File: Orbinaut Spin+Death.webm (3MB, 950x538px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 950x538px

>>385779438
But we all know it only gets better from here on.

>>385778823
>How are we supposed to beat these bad guys then?
Depends on what kind of Orbinauts are in the game, Anon. We know this one is in the game but it works differently & doesn't use spikes to hurt Sonic, it spins so when Sonic jumps on it he bounces away. If we get the original ones from Labyrinth Zone then we'll have to wait for them to throw it at us, if we get the ones from Star Light Zone or Launch Base Zone we'll have to use a invincibility monitor, invincibility frames or avoid it, if it's the Star Pointer (basically an ice version of the Orbinaut) from IceCap Zone then we'll have to use one of the shields to melt it's spiked balls or wait for it to throw it at us as well.

File: Sonic_credits.jpg (1MB, 1605x758px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1605x758px

I don't know why but it bugs me that a rogue team of indie devs are making better higher quality Sonic sprites and animations for a $20 game than fucking Disney, the supposed masters of animation. This credits scene was atrocious to watch.

Listening to the new Stardust Speedway track is melting me into hyped up sludge. Shit's silky.

File: Tweets+NeoGAF Info+Stealth+Walls+Stream+Twitter+Wood+PronouncingWords+NO WAY!+Ratio+Steam Details+No More Details+More Details+SDCC+HQ Dimension Heist.png (3MB, 1860x5554px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 1860x5554px

>>385779438
Obligatory images.

It could be a 3d adventure style game

File: Dev Team Dark.png (437KB, 1355x1677px) Image search: [Google]

437KB, 1355x1677px

>>385779438
>>385779824

>>385779504
Only Amyfag furries want her. Nobody making the game likes her.

>>385779438
God I can't wait for this game

File: 1500090856166.png (967KB, 771x1080px) Image search: [Google]

967KB, 771x1080px

It's what the Saturn should of got.

I miss the S3 sprite. Why did they get rid of it?

>>385779942

Proof?

>>385780019
They're the oddball of the trilogy, and harder to animate due to the pseudo-3D look they go for.

File: 1490063362939.png (23KB, 120x72px) Image search: [Google]

23KB, 120x72px

>>385779438
All Sonic Mania music revealed so far:
Title Screen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFd6g6oPfKA
Green Hill Act.1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4VxI3BJh84
Green Hill Act.2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM8G6uhZWuA
Chemical Plant Act.1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDWat7YE_h0
Chemical Plant Act.2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8nElbfhBGE
Flying Battery Act.1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdeU9Q8c5gY
Stardust Speedway Act.1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pm5iLGWqg4M
Studiopolis Act.1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIWyZmFSep0
Mirage Saloon Act.2 (Beta): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nW7bunHrdLQ
Mirage Saloon Act.2 (Updated): https://youtu.be/uB9RP2SV8HY?t=167 (2:47)
Mini-Boss Theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u37jvd3bP-k
Eggman Boss Theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J9h7SDC2Go
Hard-boiled Heavies Theme (Hi Spec Robo Go!): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW6TtXKVLYg
Special Stage (Dimension Heist): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLcblxrrE0Q
Zone Select: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDlVjXvIBY8
Speed Shoes Theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JfU-ubvkX8
Invincibility Theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNlr4kA4DXA
1-Up/Extra Life Jingle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLkliLw3I98

>>385779504
She's not even that fun of a playstyle half the time because she can't roll. Her having the highest jump in the game thanks to the hammer move is pretty cool, but aside from that playing her can be a real hassle. I wouldn't mind her being a part of the Mania story though, but I hear that the dev team aren't really a fan of her so she's probably not in it. If she was she would've been in the intro booklet at SDCC.

File: 1500777753992.webm (3MB, 680x480px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 680x480px

>>385779942
I don'y know how the people working on the game feel about her, but she's fun as fuck to play as and translates to the Genesis games pretty well.

I don't think she'll be in, but i'd like to play as her myself in Mania.

File: 1501535168228.png (103KB, 251x173px) Image search: [Google]

103KB, 251x173px

>>385778624
Sonic 2 on a model 1 genesis was the first game I ever played
in 1999

>>385780124

>Lets put all the secrets and surprises into the booklet

Okay

>>385779953
This would have saved sega jk egm would have trashed it for not being 3d

File: 1501539050726.png (2MB, 2448x3264px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 2448x3264px

>>385780124
Storylinewise Tails and Knuckles aren't supposed to roll either but they do. No reason why Amy can't either.

Fucking male patriarchy.

>>385780225
Well, I guess hold on to the hope she's gonna be in it somewhere then anon. Don't be a sperg about it though.

File: 1501283098399.png (263KB, 540x309px) Image search: [Google]

263KB, 540x309px

>We're getting Hydrocity instead of Launch Base
>We haven't even seen any Launch Base gimmicks in other levels

>>385780226
Everything about the Saturn is what killed Sega in the first place. This would've redeemed the console at least

File: Hydrocity Leak with Info.png (536KB, 1860x1730px) Image search: [Google]

536KB, 1860x1730px

>>385779438
>>385779824
>>385779912

>>385780297

>Poking at the flaws in your logic = being a sperg

Alright, then.

>>385779438
I don't really play the 2D Sonic games, nor am I interested in Mania, but I do like how they chose the Sonic 1&2 sprites for Sonic. The S3&K ones always felt off to me.

>>385780298
Those rotating lift things I could see in Hydrocity. Green Hill already has a zipline thing and I guess the rotating barrel platforms and the launcher loops could honestly be put anywhere.

>>385779942
>>385780124
>Nobody on the dev team likes her
>dev team aren't fans of her
Can you fags stop spouting this bullshit? People keep saying this without providing a single source. Someone just made that shit up here.

File: Sonic Genesis Stand BG.png (16KB, 782x299px) Image search: [Google]

16KB, 782x299px

Good evening, fellas

>>385780462

This. I'd like ONE solitary source on this.

Sonic always looked ugly.

The background and foreground are all fucking muddled, how can anyone without autism know what's going on.

>>385780494
K.T.E's eyes are too small in Mania

>>385779504
UNLOCKABLE
SHADOW

>>385779438
>added 2 more frames
Game of the year

File: Sonic Genesis Run BG.gif (121KB, 760x254px) Image search: [Google]

121KB, 760x254px

>>385780494
How are you all tonight?
Fixed and finished for real this time.

>>385780368
Outside of Japan that is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc3AK8k90xw

>>385780608

Shadow isn't a classic character, fuck off adventurecuck.

Sakura synagogue was an hilarious idea, I have to admit it.

Why did they fuck up on 3?

>>385780124
If even Cream can roll why can't Amy?

File: brainlet.jpg (79KB, 874x684px) Image search: [Google]

79KB, 874x684px

>>385780534
>struggling with something literally children can play no problem

>>385780673
Fuck what up?

>>385780663
I don't like much adventure games.
I like shadow.

File: 1500331654571.png (511KB, 750x1100px) Image search: [Google]

511KB, 750x1100px

Best Echidna

File: 1501283277930.gif (525KB, 300x331px) Image search: [Google]

525KB, 300x331px

Still listening to SS

>>385780641
The 32X and Saturn's failure in America pretty much added to the death of Sega's console division. It was pretty bad even if all the game ports from the PS1 they got had all that neat bonus content

>>385780696
Sonic Advance 2 Amy was pretty much a Sonic clone. It's a shame the game thought you should unlock her by collecting the Chaos Emeralds with all four characters

Advance 2 is fucking shit

File: 1426722503493.png (340KB, 616x796px) Image search: [Google]

340KB, 616x796px

>>385780820
Same here, I prefer the original due to the HUEs and the piano but this version is so fucking chill.

>>385780534
I think your eyes are broken senpai because nobody else has this problem

>>385780019
Because the S3 sprite looks like retarded shit.

>>385780298
Well there is almost one. One of launch base's badniks is used as the basis of a new badnik in studiopolis. That's not a guaranteed stage killer though because sonic games can and do have badniks with similar behavior but different appearances. But mania might be more strict on recycling elements than the past games.

>>385781056
t. romhacker

>>385780925
The 32X at least had Knuckles Chaotix, Saturn had nothing.

The thing is who in their right mind will dare to port it to the Saturn, seeing that you need a 4MB ram cart just to add in all of the animations in it.

>>385780608
its nigger sonic, not shadow you adventurefag

>>385781072
>But mania might be more strict on recycling elements than the past games.
Manias philosophy seems to be to include stuff if it fits the theme. The worm enemy from Angel Island oddly fits in Chemical Plant better than it does its native zone.

>>385780946
Don't worry, anon. You'll get your HUEs in Act 2 if that tweet by Tee is anything to go buy.

File: 00000137-810x400[1].jpg (155KB, 810x400px) Image search: [Google]

155KB, 810x400px

>>385781123
The Saturn had the best 3D sonic

>>385781294
I played the shit out of that. Being a Sonic fan was miserable in 1998.

File: 1501306347837.gif (119KB, 500x500px) Image search: [Google]

119KB, 500x500px

>>385779438
>Try to prove Sonic Mania can't get any better

No Zone revisits. Everything is new content
Playable Amy Rose
4 player versus mode. Local and Online. Every Zone is available. Special Stages too.
Switch version has the ability to do a full on co-op campaign with other Switch owners without having to share the same screen.
After clearing the main game, the ability to swap partners ala Sonic Advance 3. Play as Sonic and Knuckles or Knuckles and Sonic.

>>385781294
Not a full game sadly and Saturn was meant for 2D.

File: 1498633067077.jpg (51KB, 460x596px) Image search: [Google]

51KB, 460x596px

>>385781294
and here we see Sonic Adventure in it's infancy. I hope nothing bad happens to it...

>>385779438
Here's one: Use the vastly superior S3K sprites.

>>385780385
Stop posting this without proof. You're just repeating yourself since your very first post a few threads back here. Post the archive you pulled that from.

File: super nut.jpg (37KB, 712x706px) Image search: [Google]

37KB, 712x706px

>>385780116
>That Stardust Speedway act 1 remix

>>385780618
Good work now include Tails top speed as alternates.

>>385781637
No. It creates genetic abominations that beg for death.

>>385781764
I don't see no proof for that.

>>385780663
How retarded would the developers have to be to not include the second most popular and important character in the entire franchise?

>>385781637
No but that's a good thing. I don't want no abominations

>>385781829
It's not about popularity, it's about maintaining the immersion of the era they're trying to emulate. Nothing about Shadow in terms of gameplay or aesthetic fits with the Saturn style they're going for.

>>385781637
replying to a deleted post wooo

>>385781829
Who's the first?

File: tumblr_ok7m1fdJ2T1w1kerio1_540.gif (1MB, 540x400px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 540x400px

>>385781829
Shadow hasn't been important in the last 10 years

>>385781950
Tails.

File: 1461625422239.png (91KB, 486x555px) Image search: [Google]

91KB, 486x555px

>>385781829
>Shadow
>important character
In like two games maybe.

>>385781829
Shadow is from the Adventure games. Mania is about the classic Genesis games. Don't pretend to be retarded.

>>385781950
Probably sanic.

>>385781950
Why Knuckles of course

File: 1500462759643.jpg (65KB, 500x500px) Image search: [Google]

65KB, 500x500px

>>385781950

File: 98513547572262.png (3KB, 675x416px) Image search: [Google]

3KB, 675x416px

>>385781735

File: tumblr_oomnk2wyK21vjuh1lo1_500.png (274KB, 478x421px) Image search: [Google]

274KB, 478x421px

We know what Naoto Oshima thinks of Sonic Mania

But does anyone know what Yuji Naka thinks of Sonic Mania? A game that not only manages to do a 1:1 reproduction of his original work and improve upon it.

File: knuckles.jpg (134KB, 1920x856px) Image search: [Google]

134KB, 1920x856px

>>385781950

>>385782145
He seems to be a fan from pictures I've seen. Taxman and Stealth meeting him must've been one of the defining moments in their whole lives.

>>385779718
My dude those were 100% reused assets from the Genesis games.
Sega was in this for the long run, they didn't just give them use of character rights, they struck a deal and put Ralph in Sonic and Sega All Stars Racing in return.

>>385781980
I'd take Big the Cat over Ow The Edge desu

>>385782083
Don't forget the Mania sprites when we get full access :)

>>385782145
Hates it, thinks it's disgraceful to give the series to westerners.

File: 3_mania_color.png (10KB, 428x264px) Image search: [Google]

10KB, 428x264px

>>385779438
It can.
When mods happen.

>>385781829
Dumb Adventurefag

File: sk-other-bluesphereimg1[1].png (7KB, 320x224px) Image search: [Google]

7KB, 320x224px

>>385781829
>Shadow
>Relevant
>2017

>>385781829
I want shadow in mania more than anybody.
But there is not place for him there.

>>385782145
He hasn't made any comments like Oshima, but he retweets most Mania announcements. He also said the animation in the pre-order trailer looked good.

>>385779718

Why are you expecting them to pour hours on a small credit sequence?

>>385782321
>relevant
I didn't use that word

File: S2-3 mixed sprite.png (6KB, 202x122px) Image search: [Google]

6KB, 202x122px

>>385782297
>Still has fugly biscuitdoughhandsman tier gloves
>Still has playskool squeak toy clown shoes
>At least works to fix the shitty right eye and retard smirk.

It's not as bad as the S3 sprite but its still garbage.

>>385782240
He's talking about the Ralph and Vanellope sprites.

>>385779438

3 sprite looks best
kinda sad its reverting to 1/2

Does Sega of Japan have literally any influence over Sega of America
Or even exist
You basically never hear of them anymore

>>385782473
Sega of Japan is too busy working on arcade machines and mobage.

>>385782413
Anyone here have the running animation of this? I saw it yesterday

>>385782413
that mixed sprite looks pretty cool actually

File: DFhPwN2VwAApQxV.jpg (306KB, 2048x1348px) Image search: [Google]

306KB, 2048x1348px

>>385782291
Nice try faggot.

>>385782570
They're doing Sonic Forces.

>>385782473

SEGA of American doesn't even fucking exist as a development house anymore. What the fuck are you on about?

>>385782420
More-so how they animated the scene in general, but that too. It reeks of Newgrounds Flash animation

>>385780265
Ill only accept Amy rolling if we get panty shots.

>>385782713
and bare feet

>>385780116
>Still no fucking full loop of this shit

Is that last part completely made up? I've never seen anyone last more than 30 seconds before killing the miniboss.

File: SA_Pole_Amy.gif (3KB, 28x67px) Image search: [Google]

3KB, 28x67px

>>385782713
We got more panty shots in Sonic Advance when she didn't roll than in Sonic Advance 2 and 3 when she did roll.

>>385782765
*Miniboss theme

>>385782420
Well, in that case what the fuck is he trying to say comparing Ralph and Vanellope's sprites with Sonic Mania, which has nothing remotely similar to compare to

>>385782793
>>385782713
Plz no
I couldn't play SA1 in front of my family because of that. Don't make me remember these wounds.

>>385779619
>Expression changes every time it loses one.

It's the little things.

amyfags please leave, this is a thread about sonic mania not about your deviantart fetish pictures.

>>385782849
Those sprites are pretty garbage, even compared to the normal Sonic 1 sprite.

File: XuwCV0l.png (28KB, 299x81px) Image search: [Google]

28KB, 299x81px

>>385782897
>Terrified shaking when they're all gone
Poor little guy...

File: 1500915267870.jpg (45KB, 352x333px) Image search: [Google]

45KB, 352x333px

>>385782906
Yes, Amyfags should leave. Mania threads are for Rosyfags only and Rosyfags aren't dumb horny waifufags, we're cool.

I hate sonic now, thanks 4chan. At first I liked anime too, and now I hate that. This place ruins your love for everything and just makes you gay, fat and hateful of everything in the end.

>>385782897
Mania is basically "the little things" The Game.

>>385782756

kys footfag amyfag

>>385783023
It sounds like you did this to yourself, anon. Be safe.

>>385782145
>>385782634
I really want that fucking statue...

>>385782889
We need a new generation of awkwardness as the pink hedgehog girl flashes her panties to the world

File: 1444226751405.png (26KB, 181x188px) Image search: [Google]

26KB, 181x188px

>>385779504
>they don't just make literally every character playable as reskins that you can unlock

>>385783197
You can only have it if you can beat Taxman and Stealth at making a better game.

>>385782906
Amyfags should leave because its getting my hopes up she could even get a cameo. I'm trying to enjoy all the bounties this game is actually bringing.

>>385783367
As in a better 2D Sonic game or 3D? I'd like to challenge that when I get more time on my projects

>>385783015
to be honest, i can stand rosyfags. It's the Amy autismos the ones ruining everything.

I have yet to encounter an Amyfag who is not a sexually repressed human.

File: ring.png (96KB, 256x432px) Image search: [Google]

96KB, 256x432px

>>385782906
Nah I'm good

File: _collab__don_t_panic_by_rontufox-d5lbg78.png (839KB, 2224x1590px) Image search: [Google]

839KB, 2224x1590px

>>385781610
That was my second time posting that & it was only an hour back since I made that specific image, Anon. By the way, it's in a separate image & not in that main image filled with facts since I'm aware it's just rumors & not 100% confirmed.

I don't know which archive you mean but for 4chan it was first posted >>385691143 but the file name is clearly from Twitter. That being said a SonicRetro post (that you see in the image) suggested this being the case before we got that image: http://forums.sonicretro.org/index.php?showtopic=35709&st=6375&p=900828&#entry900828
And the screenshot we currently have was first posted here:
https://twitter.com/MegaDriveBrad/status/891861070423502849

>>385782765
>>385782836
I forget where that guy could've gotten such a clean rip of that track from but no, it's not made up:
https://youtu.be/2sqtCjvP5Bo?t=43 (0:43)

File: ristar-20081007034009935[1].jpg (52KB, 460x293px) Image search: [Google]

52KB, 460x293px

So he's pretty much confirmed, yea?
No need to discuss such obvious additions.

File: NathanExplosion-1.jpg (15KB, 636x364px) Image search: [Google]

15KB, 636x364px

>>385783230
That could work. It would be like what they did in Rayman.

File: 1500903694441.jpg (344KB, 707x1000px) Image search: [Google]

344KB, 707x1000px

>>385783531
>yfw the Mania team gets to make Ristar Mania

>>385779438
why is the S3&K sprite so shitty?

>>385783491
For the sake of current interest and consistency lets say 2D.

>>385783615
t. romhacker

>>385780618
I always liked sonic's mobius strip legs.

File: 1484418155633.jpg (12KB, 400x400px) Image search: [Google]

12KB, 400x400px

>>385783531
>Planet Sonata Zone

File: 1501457925235.png (1MB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1920x1080px

So I have question and I'm having trouble finding a answer.

So I'm playing Sonic 3 right now. Not Sonic 3 & Knuckles.

Now I know this game has a save feature but what exactly does it keep track of besides level and chaos emeralds?

If I turn it off will it reset my score & life count?

>>385780618
You know considering you included Sonic's peel out, wouldn't it make sense for Tails' top speed to also be included?

>>385783848
Lives and continues

>>385783848
It only saves your level, chaos emeralds, lives and continues

File: hold left to uhhh.webm (3MB, 640x480px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 640x480px

How am I supposed to beat this bros?

>>385783848
Yes

>>385783894
S3&K exclusive

File: 1494783831155.jpg (18KB, 295x416px) Image search: [Google]

18KB, 295x416px

>>385783894
>>385783925
Okay thanks

>>385783961
Sonic just wants to go home

>>385783961
>Didn't equip the sword
What the fuck did you expect

Mania is cool and I'm excited to play it but I want some bew info on stages for Forces. If it's not completely new zones I'm going to be severely disapointed

>>385783964
Uh-oh we've got misinformation.

I'll go test. I'll be back

>>385783961
Did you try jumping?

>>385783961
b...but Arin said you can finish Sonic by pressing forward!

File: 1501031583108.png (148KB, 490x256px) Image search: [Google]

148KB, 490x256px

>>385783964
>A save feature that saves everything useful
>S3&K exclusive
No wonder S3 is garbage and S3&K is the definitive (official) version.

>>385784073
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojTpkpXM0UM

>>385784073
Forces will have Chemical Plant and Sky Sanctuary. And also Stardust Speedway.

>>385784275
>That overpowered spindash
>Putting a spring at the end when the player could just jump

They didn't fix anything

File: 1500782388931.png (175KB, 849x473px) Image search: [Google]

175KB, 849x473px

>>385783961
>when the invisible wall kicks in and you can't go home
Sonic had a hard life

>>385782702
>>385782849
They're CG artists, they're obviously not gonna know shit about pixel art, and they wouldn't hire somebody to do it if it's just in the credits sequence

>>385784418
They made it even worse somehow, it's unbelievable. Even Generations didn't have level design that dull or springs fucking littered everywhere because they think the player is too dumb to make simple jumps.

>>385784418
It's the same Classic Sonic gameplay from Generations but the zones look worse and there's constant talking head chatter.

>>385784418
Generations had some "easy mode" object placements on pre-release builds so i really hope that's the case here, i mean, there's a spring rendering a swinging plataform completely useless

>>385780154
wtf level design is that? how can anyone tell whats going on, whats interactive, or even where they are going?

>>385784418
Actually the spindash looks nerfed compared to Generations. The bit we've seen from the level design, lack of neat camera angles, the weak music, dash panels being before loops, the lack of anything new being in the level mechanically compared to Generations & the seemingly lack of improvement with the physics makes it look pretty fucking shit though, especially when compared to Generations.

>>385784746
That Arin Hanson impression is spot on, anon.

>>385784275
WHY DO THEY INSIST ON MAKING HIM TINY AND THEN COVER HALF OF HIM BY THE GRASS

Was honestly my biggest gripe with classic sonic in generations, I could barely even see the character half the time.

>>385784275
I can't get over how ugly this looks and sounds.

File: NO ESCAPE.webm (934KB, 640x480px) Image search: [Google]

934KB, 640x480px

>>385784094
Oh no...

>>385780116
im sorry
no sorry
depends if you like it or not

https://my.mixtape.moe/hxvihe.mp3

>>385785015
WOWWWWWW, so it punishes you for trying to go fast? That's just bad game design.

File: 1501030428517.png (182KB, 700x451px) Image search: [Google]

182KB, 700x451px

>>385784275
>That shit tier music
>That shit tier level design
>BOUNCE PAD™
>Scripted Dash Pad gameplay
They even had the audacity to use Sonic 4 Sonic render for the thumbnail. Into the trash it goes.

File: Sonic Genesis Run - Full Speed BG.gif (121KB, 752x254px) Image search: [Google]

121KB, 752x254px

>>385783892
>>385781735
I take it this won't be good enough then.

>>385784926
Not only this actually, but there's also how he's not in the middle of the screen

>>385785168
>They even had the audacity to use Sonic 4 Sonic render for the thumbnail
To be fair, that was Gamespot and not SEGA.

File: 1469422251168.png (218KB, 400x400px) Image search: [Google]

218KB, 400x400px

How many of you fags have realized yet that WE'VE FINALLY OFFICIALLY ENTERED THE MONTH THAT MANIA RELEASES IN?

TWO WEEKS TO GO BAYBEE

>>385784275
The melody is fine, it's the instuments that are garbage, other than that the level looks bland and worst. It's probably the first level so I'm indifferent. Ultimately classic Sonic just seems unnecessary with Mania but Mania came late in the game no doubt and they weren't gonna scrap him.

File: sonic1.png (51KB, 630x476px) Image search: [Google]

51KB, 630x476px

GUYS HELP I'M HOLDING RIGHT AND THIS FUCKING ENEMY KEEPS KILLING ME. WHY DID THEY MAKE THIS GAME SO COMPLEX?

>>385780124
>she can't roll
This always bugged me. Tails can roll and he doesn't have any sort of spines like Sonic and Knuckles do. But Amy, who is a hedgehog, can't?
Rolling is clearly intended to be one of those powers that everybody just sorta has even if it doesn't really make sense. Like everyone in Dragon Ball Z being able to fly.

File: ss (2017-08-01 at 12.41.23).png (16KB, 1123x220px) Image search: [Google]

16KB, 1123x220px

>>385785381
We're so close, yet so far, the wait is so unbearable.

>>385784275
Thank God Sonic Mania exists, means we can basically ignore how shitty this is.

>>385785183
Well you're posting top speeds anyway so it doesn't really matter. It looks good

>>385780494
How easy will Mania be to mod on PC?
How long will it take to fix Sonic so he isn't that weird cyan color?

>>385780385
WHY DOES FLYING BATTERY HAVE A RED RING AROUND IT???

>red rings are back

>>385785381
We're so close. SO CLOSE.

>>385785015
wtf worked when I did it

>>385785183
>only game that has the stupid arma behind the back running style with abnormal legs is CD and it only does it when you force it to
>mania has it as a default
Why

>>385782413
Wow, this one looks the best.

>>385785442
Ask Yuji Naka and the clowns that developed her gameplay style in Adventure

>>385785516
How easy is it to mod the Sonic CD remaster? They use the same engine.

>>385785442
She has the stigma that she can't roll because in Sonic Adventure 1 and Sonic Advance 1 she couldn't. If you give her a roll she basically becomes Sonic with a higher jump and a hammer attack.

>>385785502
I like the idea, though.
Don't know why I didn't think of it first.
I'll get around to eventually.

File: 20332932832.png (159KB, 365x373px) Image search: [Google]

159KB, 365x373px

>>385785015
Wait, how did you get past the title screen?

>>385785587
Well not a default defualt but when you exit a spindash and are going fast enough.

File: 1501029171846.png (182KB, 500x384px) Image search: [Google]

182KB, 500x384px

>>385784926
>>385785189
In case you haven't realize it's clear Iizufaggot is pandering to the "REEEE I CAN'T REACT TO ENEMIES IN TIME BECAUSE THE SCREEN IS TOO ZOOMED IN REEEE" and "I NEED MY CAMERA TO THE SIDE SO I CAN SEE AHEAD REEEEEEEEE" fags that also shill the "Sonic was never good" meme. Seriously, Forces is literally Shadow the Edgy tier of "let's listen to the worst part of the fanbase that doesn't know how to play games and add shit that shouldn't be in a Sonic game like G.U.N.S!"

Knuckles' glide looks so smoother in Mania it's not even funny

>>385785686
I had to look it up online, apparently you're supposed to press any button to actually start playing it. It was such bullshit

>>385780820
I'm straight and not a furry but Tails is fucking adorable holy shit

>>385785763
>press any button
Somebody post the DSP

>>385779438
if Amy and Blaze were playable.
If it had more levels.

>>385779504
UNLOCKABLE
SONICHU

>>385785792
All the Act Clear animations are fantastic.

>>385779504
UNLOCKEABLE
NIGGER SONIC

>>385785714
It works the same way Tails does in the Genesis games. There's Walk, Run, and Full Speed states.
Sonic and Knuckles use the same animations for their Run and Full Speed states, but Tails switches to a unique third set of animations for Full Speed.

>>385784275
That fucking music. Pardon me, I need to go bleach my ears.

File: 63798923_p0.gif (151KB, 1280x1076px) Image search: [Google]

151KB, 1280x1076px

>>385785892
Relax dude, there's no need for that, just listen to some sexy shit >>385780116

>>385784275
Classic Sonic gameplay in Forces just seems so completely redundent now thanks to Mania existing, but I guess it couldn't help it because Forces was in development for a really long time before Mania started dev in 2016.

File: I am the sharpest of blades.jpg (953KB, 3120x1165px) Image search: [Google]

953KB, 3120x1165px

I just so happened to have this wallpaper on so only now i noticed the subtle differences in Chemical Plant's background

>>385784275

>Sonic Generations saving grace was the excellent stage design in the 2D sections
>Sonic Forces decides to go backwards on almost every single aspect

Shit music
Shit level design
Shit graphics
Shit controls

>>385786090
I remember as a kid I would just stare for ages at the backgrounds in levels like Chemical Plant and Marble Garden, not even sure why

>>385786090
Looks slightly touched up like all the old background art. I used to have this nice really pastelly looking Casino Night desktop a while ago. I lost it though.

>>385785969
From the thumbnail I thought he was holding a chilidog.

>>385786017
>I guess it couldn't help it because Forces was in development for a really long time before Mania started dev in 2016.

Forces was not in development for a long time. Don't kid yourself. Sonic Team were probably jacking off for the longest time before they bothered to work on the next one. Forces looks just as rushed as all the other games. It wouldn't surprise me if they started actual development like a year ago.

>>385786090
Because my one complaint about Sonic 2 was that chemical plant didn't have enough clouds

>>385786302
There's so many reused Generations assets I can't pinpoint what the fuck they've been doing. It's been 6 years since Generations and the only thing they worked on since then was the B-Team making crap like Lost World

And we barely know anything about the game despite launching this holiday season

>tfw no new sonic advance

>>385786415
Good, Dimps forgot how to make a good game after the first one

File: ss (2017-07-23 at 04.02.13).png (358KB, 576x492px) Image search: [Google]

358KB, 576x492px

>>385786406
>And we barely know anything about the game despite launching this holiday season
I don't think they want us to know too much about the game yet due to Mania being the full focus right now, after Mania releases they'll probably start pushing Forces more.

>>385786490
Nah, more like Dimps just stumbles around and hopes something good comes out of it. Its the way they handle every game they make.

>>385786490
Didn't they also make Rush? That wasn't bad.

>>385786695
Rush 1 has bad level design choices and introduced the pretty lackluster boost gameplay

It's the second-best Dimps game though disregarding Pocket Rehash and has probably the best OST of any non-Classic 2D game

>>385786553

>Using an animated promotional piece not made by the game's development team as a comparison

Come on

>>385786553
This is going to be specifically in response to that retarded tweet but wow, it's almost like making a fucking 2D game is't as hard as making a fucking 3D one.

>>385786926
>>385786945
The tweet was originally meant to be bait.

>>385786660
It applies to their Dragonball games too.

>>385787090
Acting retarded doesn't make you any different from being retarded. Especially on a website where you have actual accountability and you're not anonymous

File: Amy rail grind.png (82KB, 852x451px) Image search: [Google]

82KB, 852x451px

What did DIMPS mean by this?

>>385779438
The camera is too close. Sonic has never gotten it right for these older 2d games. The need to shove the camera so close as to avoid seeing anything important around you is my major flaw for old 2d sonic. Since day one in 91.

>>385787271
Big grinds the same way in Heroes when you're in Flight formation

>>385787287
nigga they're giving you widescreen for Mania if you still struggle with that extra second of response time then you just suck

>>385787287
Compare Sonic Genesis for the GBA vs. The Taxman Remakes

The difference is night and day

>>385787090
Poe's law basically makes the "it was bait" argument retarded. There are people who are actually dumb enough to compare Forces and Mania on a technical level and shit on Forces cause Mania doesn't have any glitches, so I really have no reason to think this guy is serious.

File: helping knux get up.png (26KB, 624x541px) Image search: [Google]

26KB, 624x541px

>>385787271
Sonic games have a long history of implications in their imagery.

>>385782413
looks good

>>385781469
Realistically both Saturn and PS1 were 2d machines. The fact they crammed some 3d stuff in there that was heavily used isn't a bad thing.

>>385787514
Any system is a 2D machine when you get down to it

>>385780534
Actually, people with autism would have sensory overload.

Such as you clearly are.

Sorry, mate.

>>385787407
You guys go. I have some unfinished business to take care of.

Playable
Amy/Rosy/Pink the Hedgehog

FUCKING WHEN

>>385785183
Sonic Crackers/Chaotix are the best ones, the arms moving slightly gives it a greater sense of speed

>>385783197
Come and get it. We're waiting for you at Burbank.

I know this is a petty complaint, but I wish they hadn't picked such an ugly blue for Sonic. I know their hand wad probably forced by Sega's Classic/Modern Sonic branding, but it is still annoying.

File: 1501525477355.jpg (39KB, 600x425px) Image search: [Google]

39KB, 600x425px

Post you're favorite Sonic game
Post most autistic thing you've ever done

Hard Mode: Not something you did under the age of 15
Cybershell Must Die Mode: Not making Sonic videos

File: Yuji Naka on Sonic's speed.png (794KB, 1366x768px) Image search: [Google]

794KB, 1366x768px

>>385787287
Whether this is a shitpost or not, I'll never understand this complaint, in the original games you have like 450ms-500ms to react to something in the widescreen remakes that's extended to 900ms-1 second which is certainly nicer but the originals aren't bad with it either. When I was a kid I was able to react to most things just fine & even recently I played a rom hack that completely randomized new level design so I had no idea what was coming & had little issue rounding up to nearly 1000 rings in 30 minutes of continuous play time.

Regardless of all of this Sonic games rely on you replaying them to get faster times, it was how Naka envisioned it. So basically play the stages slowly, you don't need to go at a snail's pace but you don't need to be at full speeds until your confident enough to be familiar with the level design & how the characters control.

>>385788003
>Post you're favorite sonic game
I'm...My own favorite Sonic game? Well fuck you just gave me an existential crisis.

>>385787957
Hopefully this will be a 10-second fix via modding

File: sonic waterfall.webm (982KB, 740x588px) Image search: [Google]

982KB, 740x588px

anyone else notice the background waterfalls in greenhill zone dont animate? the palette cycles but is completely static. maybe im just autistic but that seems pretty lazy. Hopefully they add more animation.

File: 1499637176502.png (51KB, 1148x425px) Image search: [Google]

51KB, 1148x425px

>>385787957
I find Sonic 1's blue color the worst desu and I really love Sonic 1

>>385788003
S3&K/S3C
I used to make Sonic OCs and one of them was a self-insert. Those characters would end up being redesigned human and are now the characters for my comic I'm currently working on

>>385788232
Posting a webm that isn't compressed and moving all over the place would probably help

File: 1501043966612.gif (1011KB, 540x540px) Image search: [Google]

1011KB, 540x540px

>>385788003
This list is my autism's final form.

A+
>Emerald Hill
- My favorite intro level in the entire series. It gets a lot of flak for being a Green Hill clone but I find it couldn't play farther from. Green Hill focuses on allowing the player to build speed once they've learned to time their jumps and rolls through the stepped hills and slopes. Its the best designed zone from the first game with exploration kept local to the main paths. Emerald Hill instead grants speed off the bat and opts to penalize the yet unfamiliar for running blind with zone hazards and badniks, keeping a more open air design with fewer nooks.
>Chemical Plant
Remember when I said Green Hill had decently lineated main paths with exploration kept sort of in the immediate vicinity off in nooks and such? Chemical plant is that design philosophy perfected. God damned near perfect zone.
>Hydro City
Amazing sound track, great sections of speed, fantastic exploration. The best showcase of high path/low path penalty/reward dichotomy in the series. Amazing zone.
>Flying Battery
I love Wing Fortress but find it lacking in areas. It feels under cooked a bit. I love Metropolis but it can be a bit rough on the edges. Flying battery is the best design elements of both with a heap of polish added, a phenomenal theme song, and great bosses. My all time favorite mechanical stage.

A
>Green Hill
>Starlight
>Aquatic Ruin
>Casino Night
>Mystic Cave
>Metropolis
>Ice Cap
>Mushroom Hill
>Death Egg (3&K)

B
>Scrap Brain
>Hill Top
>Wing Fortress
>Angel Island
>Launch Base
>Palmtree Panic
>Stardust Speedway

C
>Marble
>Spring Yard
>Oil Ocean
>Sky Chase
>Marble Garden
>Lava Reef
>Hidden Palace
>Sky Sanctuary
>Collision Chaos
>Tidal Tempest

D
>Labyrinth
>Carnival Night
>Metallic Madness
>Sandopolis

F
>Wacky Workbench

Final Bosses:
>S3 Big Arms > Death Egg Robot (3&K) > Death Egg Robot (2) > Final Zone > Doomsday Zone > Metallic Madness

Special Stages:
>Sonic 3&K > S1 > S2 > SCD

Overall:
>S3&K = S2 > S1 > SCD

File: s23mixrun.gif (46KB, 212x236px) Image search: [Google]

46KB, 212x236px

>>385782579
Here you go. Have an experimental peel-out as a bonus

>>385788260
>Those characters would end up being redesigned human and are now the characters for my comic I'm currently working on

So you pulled a reverse Penders? Intredasting.

>>385788260
>I find Sonic 1's blue color the worst
It's bland. Just like the game.

>>385788260
a part of you is just dying to use that OC creator isn't it

>>385788323
Your peel-out really needs the other frames to work.

>>385788232
The original sonic 1 had this in green hill, i think its just an aesthetic nod to green hills waterfall

File: 3c7.gif (2MB, 255x164px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 255x164px

>>385788003
Sonic Adventure 2
I drew picture of Nicole pregnant with my OC's child, badly
top that.

>>385788323
Not a fan of that peel-out, I don't know what it is but it's just unappealing to me.

>>385788307
just look at the splash pixels at the top and bottom of the waterfall

>>385783685

>mobius strip

good job you just found out what this means cause of Mario Kart 8

you're a faggot

>>385788414
Okay, but was the OC a self insert? This is crucial.

>>385788437
Oh I see now.

Yeah that's pretty weird.

>>385788391
seems like if they are going to update all the graphics and completely remix the levels a few background animations wouldnt be too crazy.

File: 58790946.jpg (142KB, 686x500px) Image search: [Google]

142KB, 686x500px

>>385788003
Pretty much the exact same as >>385788260 only that the OCs I made got redesigned with a game in mind instead of a comic. Pic unrelated?

>>385788331
I've changed so much since then that the resemblances to the old OCs is minor at best

>>385788367
Take that back
>>385788369
My characters were sort of unique for Sonic standards. Only the self-insert would really be plausible to make, and even then it's just cause he was a normal hedgehog. I ended up calling him a porcupine to feel more original just before cutting my losses and redesigning him entirely

>>385779438
It isn't S3&K. Can't get better than perfection

>>385788689
But what if it did?

File: 1501463537800.jpg (69KB, 553x1091px) Image search: [Google]

69KB, 553x1091px

>>385788003
>>385788621
Same as these guys. Had Sonic fan characters, turned them into OCs over time, and now making a Sonic clone in my spare time.

File: 1482647616973.png (68KB, 1024x864px) Image search: [Google]

68KB, 1024x864px

>>385788232
This was a trick used a lot in older games that had limited space for animations. They'd animate a few colors on the palette to cycle like that instead.
I agree it doesn't look great for the splashing at the bottom though.

File: 1485836945051.gif (435KB, 1024x864px) Image search: [Google]

435KB, 1024x864px

>>385788830
Fuck meant to post that animated to show the effect

>>385788830
Yoshi's Island was one of the best looking games on the SNES. It's one of the games I feel really come close or exceeds the Sonic series that era

>>385788517
No.

File: 1499153776402.jpg (348KB, 2000x1333px) Image search: [Google]

348KB, 2000x1333px

>>385788312
>Labyrinth, Carnival Night, and Sandopolis in D tier
>Metropolis in A tier

>>385788689
But Mania is literally S3&K 2.

>>385780740
The sprites

File: 1500967030444.png (116KB, 500x465px) Image search: [Google]

116KB, 500x465px

>>385788910
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3psA_ZuzOQ0
Have I got the ROM hack for you then.

File: 1441317639388.png (21KB, 150x174px) Image search: [Google]

21KB, 150x174px

>>385788260
>>385788621
>>385788749
I get the feeling a lot of creators pretty much started off this way and then changed shit to not be tied to any existing property so that they could have more freedom in how shit plays out when they're older and have a better idea of what's good and what's stupid. I've done this with a bunch of series myself.

>>385788903
>>385788830
right tons of 16 bit games did this and I like palette cycling effects but a stitic water splash just doesnt look good. they could make it a 2 frame flicker at least.

>>385788959
That might have been even more autistic

>>385789004
Yoshi in Sonic 2 made my jaw drop. The Sonic rom hacking community is fucking insane

>>385789024
It is surprisingly common. I think even Chris Chan believes he did this

File: 1496339824297.png (62KB, 326x277px) Image search: [Google]

62KB, 326x277px

>>385788627
If it makes you feel any better a reverse Penders is practically the opposite of autism since you're progressing rather than regressing.

>>385788959
Well see, in that case, I'm sure there's plenty of fine autists at /sthg/ that can top that.

>>385781436
This, this, and THIS!

File: spongebob.gif (1MB, 1275x916px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1275x916px

>>385788003
>Sonic CD, SA2, S3&K

I started a flame war with some troll where I bragged about my recolor of a real life hedgehog that I claimed as my OC. she decided to troll me and make a weird ship amv of us to her youtube account. I ragequit and came back to youtube months later, where her supposed cousin came back to troll me as well. it did not go far and she disappeared. I kind of miss her.

>>385788910
Even ignoring aesthetics, the Sonic games did a lot more with the graphics than a lot of SNES games. Lots of DMA effects for stuff like the water rippling and the bacakground parallax, robust tilesets, dynamicly changeing palettes, and amazing use of the more limited colors that the genesis had. Super Mario World in contrast didn't even make full use of the SNES's 4bpp capabilities.

File: 1488866448278.png (404KB, 1000x1200px) Image search: [Google]

404KB, 1000x1200px

>>385785792
A tails is fine.

>>385785792
>>385789336
>that one doujin where Tails is a chick and Sonic gets her pregnant

>>385789004
I played that hack recently and was amazed at how well they translated Yoshi and his moveset into Sonic 2. It also managed to make the game easier some ways and harder in others (like boss fights for the most part, Death Egg was easier as Yoshi). Metropolis went from being annoying to really fun as Yoshi. It's a top notch hack and I hope whoever made it makes a Yoshi in 1/CD/3&K hack too.

>>385789004
Nicely done romhack. Why did some people get mad at it again, though?

>>385788830
>>385788903
They used that effect in Sanic 2 as well. I think either Hidden Palace or Oil Ocean.

>>385789390
>that one doujin where tails poops on a babby
tails must die

>>385789327
Super Mario World was also a launch title and S3&K was right before the Genesis' death bed for reference. Seriously, as great a Mario game as SMW was, it's pretty fucking weak in most aspects compared to even games on its own system

>>385789336
Mania threads have gotten me to realize how cute this shota fox is

>>385780154
It's a novelty since they're just romhacks but it's actually pretty clunky and tedious. It works better for Advance since the levels are more bland and plain to accommodate her play style.

>>385789424
Pretty sure it was the usual "I DIDN'T AUTHORIZE THIS RELEASE REEEEEEEE MUH CODE" autism you kind of expect from Retro and similar boards.

>>385789553
Well I did hear the romhack was supposedly leaked and the author wasn't very happy about.

>>385789542
This. If Amy had a roll she'd be fine, but she doesn't and the levels are all designed for characters that can roll through loops and enemies.

>>385779438
>it's 2/CD's shitty sprite instead of 3&K's superior one

>>385788689
It will never top it

>>385789002
More like Sonic the Hedgehog 2-2. Anyone expecting it to reach 3&K good will be dissappointed

>>385789694
3&K's Sonic sprite is garbage
>No visible mouth
>Spikes are too jagged
It's clearly based off the garbage western design for Classic Sonic.

>>385789756
If you are so sure, my dude.

File: 1425269307498.png (6KB, 708x344px) Image search: [Google]

6KB, 708x344px

>>385789680
ARE YOU A BAD ENOUGH DUDE TO POST THE ENTIRE THING?

File: Mania confirmed 11 out of 10 goat.png (151KB, 720x421px) Image search: [Google]

151KB, 720x421px

>>385789756
I'm sure you're completely right and not looking for an excuse to shitpost

>>385789682
>Well I did hear the romhack was supposedly leaked and the author wasn't very happy about.

Sure, I can understand that but the walls of text and drama it spawns will always amuse me on some level.

>>385789795
The castration one is worse.

File: red monotreme.png (188KB, 288x496px) Image search: [Google]

188KB, 288x496px

Knock knock.

>>385789834
I am not shit posting you faggot. Me calling it another Sonic 2 is a good thing. I am telling you your expectations are too high on a game being made by an unproven team.
>but muh phone ports
Phone ports are not level design.

File: 1485848667977.gif (2MB, 279x350px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 279x350px

>>385784275
>all of those springs at the ledges

Are they trying to cater to the "LOL HOLD RIGHT TO WIN" retards? This is just painful to watch.
And that music is shit.

>>385789912
Mobile port has Hidden Palace Zone to judge and it's a perfectly fine level. Again, I'm completely sure you're not looking for an excuse to shitpost

>>385789897
KNUCKLES IS NOT MAGENTA REEEEEEEE

File: 1500050639472.png (13KB, 514x449px) Image search: [Google]

13KB, 514x449px

>>385789538
Even compared to Sonic 1 SMW is pretty fucking far behind. No fault of even the engine, some SMW romhacks can really look pretty good (pic related)
SMW had really solid physics, though, definitely the best part about it.

>>385790004
That isn't Knuckles, it's Classic Knuckles. Different character.

>>385789972
>name fag
Fuck off you faggot. Telling people that the game will be good but not as good as people are expecting is not shit posting. If I was shit posting I would say it will never be good not it will never be as good as the best game in the series. Eat a bag of dicks

>>385780747
tru

File: 1500909152430.png (388KB, 344x496px) Image search: [Google]

388KB, 344x496px

IT'S KNUCKLES, THE BLOAT THROWER
INDEPENDENT FLOWER, MAGICAL EMERALD HOLDER
I'LL GIVE YOU THE COLDEST SHOULDER
MY SPIKES GO THROUGH BOULDERS, THAT'S WHY I STAY A LONER
I WAS BORN BY MYSELF, I DON'T NEED A POSSE
I GET IT ON BY MYSELF, ADVERSARIES GET SHELVED

File: 1498205941036.jpg (42KB, 480x542px) Image search: [Google]

42KB, 480x542px

Anon, the real question we have tonight is switch or PS4

>>385789965
And when Arin plays it, he'll be justified. Fuck

>>385780494
>>385788260
I've always liked the 3/K sprite of Sonic best, just for the spines.

>>385790073
Hacks always have a tendency of taking the base game and using it in ways even the creators couldn't pull off, especially graphically. The Sonic rom hacking community itself is one of the prime examples. But yeah, Mario World plays really well and that's all it needs to

>>385790174
Switch if you want portability, PS4 if not?

>>385780747
That's no Lara-su

>Having any character playable other than Sonic
Game is shit by default.

>>385790162
cleanse yourself

>>385790174
pc version... not pirated of course

>>385790174
Why bother buying it on PS4 unless you just don't have a pc?
Switch has the portability going for it at least.

>>385790258
But Sonic 1 is the weakest of the Genesis trilogy

>>385779438
Now 3 looks like the odd one.

>>385790332
this

File: 6e3o0l.png (29KB, 526x485px) Image search: [Google]

29KB, 526x485px

>>385790073
SOnic 1 had some pretty minamalist backgrounds. Hell they didn;t even have paralax scrolling (Like SMW) until it was patched into later versions.

Still I think they have their charm (I honestly like them more than some of the bloated overdetailed ones from later games)

>>385790335
>actual real level design
>focus more on precise platforming
>music still more memorable than any Sonic after
It's superior to 2 and 3 by large. Of course 1 can't hold a candle to CD which puts the genesis titles to shame.

I unironically wish Sonic would go back to having a continuous plot like Adventure to Shadow, sure it was retarded but it was entertaining and led to a wide variety of levels.

>>385785432
THIS FUCKING GAME HAS NO QUEST MARKERS OR MINIMAP. HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW WHERE TO GO?

>>385790174
PC with Switch Pro controller

>>385780265
>>385785631
>amy is slow, fragile, a bad jumper, and she can't even roll or spin dash
>that's okay just make her like fast and mighty with rolling and spin dashing like sonic but with a giant hammer so she's kinda like Sakura from Naruto
If you have to fundamentally change the character to make them work just use a different character. Unless you're using the Sonic Boom version of Amy in a classic style game for some reason, but I think it would be more fitting to use the classic characterization of the character if they're going to be included (more of a side role)

File: 1409542243544.png (6KB, 419x249px) Image search: [Google]

6KB, 419x249px

>>385790004
yellow

socks

>>385790447
Look Anon, I like 1 more than 2 but 3&K is the pinnacle of level design with the perfect emphasis on speed and platforming

My love was reconfirmed with Taxman's version

File: 1475818399410.jpg (83KB, 522x490px) Image search: [Google]

83KB, 522x490px

>>385790174
Switch not just for portability but also the sheer irony of playing Sonic's return to glory on Nintendo.

>>385790548
I honestly don't give a shit if she's in the game or not. I basically enjoyed her playstyle in Advanced 1 as just something different to the others, but her not being able to roll into enemies on long stretches just makes her unfun to play at point.

>>385782413
>>385788323
I wish they'd done something like this for Mania instead. Keep the original but add the actual improvements of the 3 design, instead of dropping it all together for its faults.

>>385790548
They sort of just made her a Sonic clone in Adventure 2, Advance 2 and Heroes contrast to her slower hammer-based gameplay style

The option is just nice to have, like Coco in N. Sane Trilogy