Why did persona 5 become so famous and took the series to the top?

>>385778839
Social media

The game quickly grew from cult following after p3 into popular niche, then having great production lead it to somewhat mainstream success.

>>385778839
1. It's so good that its getting people who don't typically like anime or JRPGs to like it

2. It's very visually interesting and stylish, and that made more people take notice of the trailers and prerelease marketing

First thing's first
Gameplay: 5 > 3 > 4
Story: 3 > 5 > 4

4's general popularity + a very vocal fanbase that ended up catching normalfag attention

>>385778972
This

>>385779086
Gameplay: 5 > 4 > 3
Story: 3 > 4 > 5

There's not a moment of this game that doesn't feel good to play.

>>385779217
>mouse mazes

>>385778839
KEK seriously?
this it´s a shit when compared to final fantasy 7 and 9 or chrono trigger
or fire emblem original
or fuck when compared all games old japanese

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>>385779086

>Everyone constantly shitting on 4 now like it's the cool thing to do

I'll never get this meme

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>>385779086
>Gameplay: 3 > 4
Fucking how? Even people who like 3 more agree that 4 has better gameplay.

>>385779594

Full party control is for casuals

>>385779086
More like
Gameplay: 5 > 4 > shit > 3
Story: 5 > 4 > a gun to my head > 3

>>385779470
4 is the worst game in one of the worst series. kys personafaggot

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>>385779086
Gameplay 5 > 4 > 3 obviously
Story: 5 > 4 = 3

>>385779252
Did people not like those? They were cool, and they weren't especially confusing or tedious.

>>385779470
It's just shitposting. It's always been shitposting.

>>385779594
fuck 4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48eRqm7S4jY

>>385778839
>took the series to the top?
That was Persona 4 Golden and the anime series it spawned.

>>385779217
What kind of lie-filled shilling is this?
- Running out of MP a quarter of the way through the long dungeons.
- Stat grinding pre-jobs.
- S-link grinding
- Damn near every dungeon after Kamoshida's Palace
- Having to pay $60,000 to buy a Persona one level higher than you
- Ichiko Ohya
- The entire cast feels off and have almost no chemistry. Far more than Persona 3, but far less than Persona 4.
- No Lotus Juice

>>385779594
>implying everyone has the same opinions
Persona 4 simplified shit and never had any challenge.

>>385779769
Gameplay i agree
but story it´s 3 better

>>385779717
The fuck? No, full party control is for people who don't like tedious, annoying, and unreliable gameplay mechanics

>>385779470
>>385779594
Ever since it got popular you have retards like >>385779717 and >>385779752 being contrarian as fuck. In terms of gameplay it was undeniably a massive improvement over 3.

>>385779904

said the casual

>>385779930
But you can´t have a better story than 3

>>385779769
does 4 get worse? im not too far in but so far i like it better than 5s mess of a story. the characters and art in 5 were much better though, but the music is a lot better in 4

>>385779829
>>385779965
Persona has always been casual and easy as fuck ever since Revelations. You fags can stop pretending to know what you're talking about any time now.

It's really not, it's just that anime is normalfag now and persona as a whole is fundamental ironic weeb core. Also there are more social rejects than ever before, and P5 is the best friend/waifu simulator on the market, which is why it's no surprise the game has a massive tumblr and /v/ following.

>>385780000
Yeah I didn't mention the story in that post though. As I said here >>385779193 3 has the best story of the trio.

>>385780029

Anyone that plays SMT is a casual, only REAL fans read the book

>>385779829
Play on a harder difficulty, then. Persona 3's hard mode is wildly unbalanced. All it does is make you grind a ton. P4's hard mode is actually an adequate and sensible step up from Normal. If you want that same experience in P4, then play on Very Hard. What did P4 even "simplify" anyways? All I can think of is the 3 physical types being rolled into 1, which everyone liked for the most part.

>>385780134
this is true?
seriously books are better than game?
I can´t believe

>>385778839
Because the series has grown in popularity with each installment.

>>385779796
- Running out of MP a quarter of the way through the long dungeons.
If you're running out of MP, you messed up
- Stat grinding pre-jobs.
How is it grinding? Grinding, by definition is when you halt your forward progress in a game to get stronger. You aren't halting any progress with stat "grinding", so it's not grinding, just normal progression.
- S-link grinding
See ^^^
- Damn near every dungeon after Kamoshida's Palace
What about them? They're all fucking awesome.
- Having to pay $60,000 to buy a Persona one level higher than you
What about it? It's a SUPER endgame ability and it's pretty gamebreaking, why shouldn't it cost a ton?
- Ichiko Ohya
She's alright, just not as good as the other confidants.
- The entire cast feels off and have almost no chemistry. Far more than Persona 3, but far less than Persona 4.
I feel like this is a huge exaggeration. Sure, they're not quite as good as P4's cast, but they're still great.
- No Lotus Juice
Agreed I guess, but not sure if he would have fit the style of soundtrack they went for.

>>385779470
It's not that I hate Persona 4, I just thought it was the easiest. They're all great games anon.

>>385780002
No, it doesn't get worse throughout the game. I don't agree with your criticisms about P5, but glad you're liking it.

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memes

>>385779796
>No Lotus Juice


how are you not sick of him by now? He has one gimmick and it's worn super thin over the years

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>>385779086
>Gameplay of 3 better than 4
>Can't even control your party members
Fucking how

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>>385779086
>>385779193
>>385779747
>>385779769


Ok so there's no arguing that the combat gameplay got better each game so I wont even list that but I want to give a special shoutout to 3 for requiring a precise schedule to get S.Links maxed out. Fuck whoever had that idea

That said

Story 3(without the answer)>4=5 >4(golden) > 3(with the answer)

Seriously, fuck 3's ending

>>385780612

>Let's do a bonus story where we make Aegis a fool then give you base spells and no damage output and then toss you with a bunch of enemies that shit all over you so you spend an extra 20 hours getting back up to speed


yeah, no

>>385780612
Isn't P4's Max S-link schedule way tighter than P3's? Also, how is 4 better than golden? All the golden stuff was good except Marie's personality, and she's completely optional. If you decide to suffer through her social link, you even get a super cool dungeon to go through, but that's still completely optional.

>>385780880

Some of the new events like the random concert scene and winter in general just felt like they didn't belong.....also I hated how Rise's rank 10 persona broke the living shit out of the game.

I guess that's more of a gameplay complaint though....should have been specific. The story was fine and I actually liked Marie and Adachi's links.

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>>385781053
Hmm. I don't agree personally, but fair enough, I could see someone not liking it.

>>385780656
Xbone is Q

>>385779470
Probably has to do with them rehashing Persona 4 into a shit ton of spin offs for years. I get that they needed stuff to keep fans happy while polishing P5, but it got ridiculous. A dancing game with a canon story? Who the fuck wanted that?

>>385778839
Because its a lot better 1, 3, and 4 while still having a huge amount of normie appeal.

>>385781350
DAN was stupid but I loved every minute of it. The fact that they put that much effort into making a 20 hour dialogue heavy story mode for a goddamn rhythm game is crazy.

>>385781350

Yeah but we're not talking about the damn dancing game, we're comparing the main games here.

A dumbass dancing spinoff doesnt make the base game any worse.

>>385781178

I'm probably too harsh, I just really thought the concert was cheesy and wished there was more to do in winter besides waiting for the end.

>>385781684
Better than going to jail for the holidays.

>>385781350
I don't get the spinoff hate. It's not like they were shitting out bad, half-assed cash grabs, they were all really good games. And hating the main games because of the spinoffs is a new kind of retarded. That doesn't affect the main game at all.
>A dancing game with a canon story? Who the fuck wanted that?
I did The story was surprisingly fleshed out too. It was kind of cheesy, and obviously not nearly as memorable as the main game's story, but it was a fun send off for the Investigation Team. The game itself is fun as hell too.

>>385778839
Persona 4 had almost a decade to cultivate a fanbase, meaning when 5 arrived there were a ton of people onboard.

>>385781684
>wished there was more to do in winter besides waiting for the end.
I liked that, honestly. It was cool getting to just relax and enjoy the rest of your year in Inaba after you solve the murders. Getting to finish up your S-Links and stuff was nice too. I thought they added a really nice amount of events too, to keep it from getting stale.

>>385781815

Yeah.....that whole segment has me worried as to how they could possibly add in more content for the inevitable P5 extended release.

>>385781943
Akechi surviving is pretty much inevitable, so he'll probably end up giving himself up and taking the fall for you instead.

>>385782019

Yeah but even so, you've erased the metaverse by then and Morgana is gone till February. They'd have to change a lot to fit in some new content for those months.

>They forgive Akechi and call him special and a cool guy. He murdered HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE
Why are the protagonists so bad

>>385782718

JRPGs in general have a bad habit of forgiving the asshole of their backstory is tragic enough....

Its one of the only games on ps4.

>>385782801
His backstory nowhere near excuses the awful things he has done

>>385779796
>Having to pay $60,000 to buy a Persona one level higher than you
This would have been a great thing if 5 didn't just give money away. One of the many reason it's easier than 3/4.

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>>385780554

this

i have never seen something memed so hard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiCD8q-QO08

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>>385782958

Like I said, "bad habit"

In my mind he's always going to be an irredeemable shitbag. His breakdown was glorious and I didn't feel one bit bad about it.

Still mad that I cant use Loki because it's his persona, fuck you pancake man

>>385782718
They don't really forgive him, just give him a chance to redeem himself and turn himself in.

>>385782958
>>385782801
>>385782718

What is stupid as fuck is how in P4, the most braindead game of the series got it right, they hate Adachi and force him to turn to the police.

While in P5 they just suck his dick even when Akechi is a fucking terrorist

>>385779470
P4 is easily the most popular game of the series, the number of spinoffs and reiterations of that game are going to cause the autists here to get flustered, because this place is inherently contrarian.

P4 is fucking awesome, but don't lie to me and act like you're not tired of seeing Yu fucking everywhere. Take that "i'm kinda tired of Yu and P4 now" attitude that you might feel in passing, and amplify that as if you have a severe form of autism and cannot help but post on a blueboard. Now you understand the ""hate""

Best thing about 5 is how they adressed 4's lack of interactions between party members.

In 4, the MC is the hottest, coolest most popular guy who solves all the problems and is the glue holding everyone else together. Sure, Chie and Yukiko are friends and Yosuke and Teddie were roomates, but you never get to see the characters really interacting and forming bonds on their own amongst themselves away from you. Kanji and Rise for example are always together and they're apparently so tight that there's even rumors at school about them dating, but there's not a single scene in the game where it's just the two of them.

In 5, you actually see Ryuji and Ann getting closer to each other, Yusuke and Futaba kind of werdly bonding, Makoto's relationship with her sister, etc. It never feels like the main character is the backbone of the group, as much as he's the guy pushing everyone forward. 4's MC was a mary sue.

>>385783168
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUWQFnC2zqU

>>385778839
The hiimdaisy comic helped get a lot of people who didn't know of Persona before persona 4 (me included) and all the milking of Persona 4 subsequently got more interest. Also being so pretty compared to P3 and P4 and being a lot more covered helped. P5 was set up to succeed.

>>385783702
5 doesnt do it all right.

The social confidants versions of the characters never appear in the main story.

They are like two seperate people. Ryuji mellows out and becomes mature but in the story hes permanently retarded

>>385783702
5 was an improvement, but it still completely failed to develop the connections between your teammates. The mementos tidbits are helpful but ultimately superficial.

Here's hoping P6 (or even better, the P5 remake) proberly addresses it and gives us the kind of side character bonding we've been missing since 3.

I still haven't played Persona yet, didn't know about it until post Persona 4 popularity, my ps2 was dead, p3p looked awful, was broke for a while so I didn't get a psvita for p4, and I still don't own a ps4. (waiting for KH3) Hoping P5 comes to switch.

>>385783823
Social Links were a mistake, and I've been saying that since the third game.
3 hasa great plot when you ignore all of the social links. Every single character has their own arc and none of them (save for Aigis, who is the heroine) includes you. I liked my stories focused, and S.Links serve only to muddle things.

I wish they'd find a way to have the social interaction aspect without the S.Links, or at least without the mini plots inside them.

>>385783823
>They are like two seperate people. Ryuji mellows out and becomes mature but in the story hes permanently retarded

This piss off alot because its clear they did some work on some confidants yet its clear as water they made it outside the plot of the game.

>>385779470
Golden happened even i hated it now.

>>385778839
No idea. I thought it was crazy disappointing after p4g

>>385779965
How fucking empty is your life that you need to brag about being good at a single player game

>>385783912
What I love most about the 3rd game is how you see the dorm really become a home to the characters, and everyone become a big family.
Yukari and Mitsuru, Ken and Akihiko, Junpei comig into his own as a mature man out of the shadow of his abusive father thanks to Chidori, the MC and Aigis learning to properly bond and connect to each other, etc.

Also, I find it very weird how not a single male party member gets a love interest since Junpei.
I wish there was an option to set Ann up with Ryuji or something.

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>>385778839
I like 5's gameplay best but I like how 3 and 4's gameplay LOOKS the best.
Surrounding the enemy and moving around/closer when you kill more enemies is more fun to look at than lining up 1 to 1.
Having Personas appear in front of the character and physically attack is also way more exciting to see than having them appear above/behind you like they're using you as a fucking shield and wiggling their arm/weapon and having a flashy effect happen when it's supposed to be a physical skill.

How many turn based games actually make the unit ATTACK the monster instead of posting and making magic happen?

How come no one found it interesting that all of the individuals associated with those who had a random change of heart were hanging out together?

>>385783574
The difference is Akechi was a victim and a villain, Adachi was just a villain whose complaints were childish. Akechi was actually treated badly as a kid just like all the members of the crew, and without having any friends ended up going to the dark side. Any of the crew could have ended up like Akechi, but no one in Persona 4 would have ended up like Adachi.

>>385784254
They did, quite a few times. Pay attention faglord.

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>>385780000
>But you can´t have a better story than 3
>muh sacrifice

P3fag everybody

>>385784254
This literally happens as soon as Makoto joins.
Akechi outright says it outloud. In fact, the only reason you weren't caught earlier is because Akechi wanted to be the one to do it and messed with the investigation.

>>385780246
This
Each iteration the franchise will get more people. This isn't rocket science....

So did anyone really think the killer reveal was a twist? As soon as pancakes happened I figured it out

>>385784582
It's not supposed to be a twist. The plot is written as a heist movie. You're just supposed to be wondering "how will they get out of this", not "who's the traitor". It's made intentionally obvious to create tension

>>385784582

The twist was that everyone figured it out then too. You all knew Akechi was behind everything and strung him along the whole time.

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>>385783702
>Best thing about 5 is how they adressed 4's lack of interactions between party members
5 has the worst cast interaction in the series are you serious? Fucking P1 is better at it.

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>>385783823
Until Persona goes back to 3's style of integrating party member s. links into the main plot instead of pushing them to the side as an optional thing character development will always be neutered and disjointed.

But they will never do this since it means party members have the (gasp) possibility of not having their worlds revolve around your self-insert.

>Chidori and Junpei have the best written romance of the modern iterations

Is it time they discard the dating sim and write games with a single heroine in mind? 3's was he closest we had to this with Aigis, and I miss having love interests and romances affecting the main plot.

>>385784842

I'm so fucking tired of this being used as a complaint. The entire point of S.Links is your relationship with them becoming stronger so your complaint is largely irrelevant. There is plenty of interaction between the members both in them and outside of them.

The only downside is that the awakening scenes aren't as powerful as the ones in 3, I'll concede that point, but everything else is better or neutral for me.

It was advertised after Atlus noticed that maybe it's not just ultra fat lardos who like their games.

Main character is a lot easier to self-insert as since he doesn't have gray or blue hair
At least that's why I liked it

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>>385784960
>Is it time they discard the dating sim and write games with a single heroine in mind?

No, lets dial back to 2 and let me pick one of my male teammates as my lover for shits and giggles

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>>385785064
>The entire point of S.Links is your relationship with them becoming stronger so your complaint is largely irrelevant.
Uh?

The complaint is that by tying character development to cutscenes it doesn't translate into the main story. Like Ryuji goes full retard in the main story, but he matures in the cutscenes. This results in either schizo characterizations or completely stunted characters (ie. Yukiko and Chie anyone?).

3 did it right by having S. Links be, as you said, about the focus between you and the character. Nothing more and nothing less. Their main character development was still tied to the main story. Like how Mitsuru's S. link is about showing her how the plebs live and her falling in love with the MC, but her main development of coming to terms with her father's death and his sins is still tied to the main story with Yukari.

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>>385778839
>P3 was a great, well received niche game
>P4 was decently popular (for a niche RPG)
>P3FES was released on PSN, right before Arena was released
>Arena looked fucking amazing and was being handled by Arcsys
>P4G happened
>Both P4 anime series and 4 P3 movies happened
>DAN, PQ, Ultimax happened
>P5 teased, radio silence
>P5 delayed and delayed again
>finally revealed with https://youtu.be/oc_9r4wifFc
>The hype of finally seeing the game after tons of nothing boosts the viewcount and gets the vid to the front page of youtube where its exposed to lots of normies
>P5 excels at visual style, and probably attracted a lot of attention on those merits alone
>Finally comes out and is almost universally praised

Honestly, as far as I'm concerned everything since Arena has just been a slow building hype train to the release of P5. It looks amazing and the series has had nothing but positive word of mouth for at least the past 5 years.

>>385779470
You must have been living under a rock if you didn't see the constant arguments about 3 vs 4

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>>385779086
Gameplay : 5 > 4 >= 3FES > 3

Story: 3>4>5

That does not mean to say any of them are bad.

>>385785064
Party member slinks are terrible since all of the development for a character goes into their slink and has no bearing on the main story. Ryuji for instance is a chill bro during his slink that is actually capable of using his head, yet in the main story he's a retarded monkey who can't shut the fuck up.

>>385785369

I guess...I just don't see it like you do. Chie and Ryuji could have developed more but the rest of the cast felt drastically different by the end of their respective games, at least to me.

classic SMT is never coming back is it

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>>385779086
>3 over 4 for gameplay

>>385779470
I feel like everyone, including me, that played Persona 4 first likes it a lot more than 3. 3 just feels like a rehash of characters after finish 4.

>>385779086
Gameplay 5>4>3

Story 4>3>5

You know, P4 would be a much better game if Kanji was the main character.
Instead of some hot popular mary sue with a loving uncle and little sister figure and with unlimited romance options, you'd be the weird emotionally stunted violent but kind guy who likes girly stuff and is bossed around by a teenage idol while trying and failing to get close to Naoto.
Hell, it even has the classic Toradora setup with Kanji and Rise both liking other people but hanging around each other way too much, to the point where it becomes a love triangle.
Or maybe I'm just drunk

>>385779086
Gameplay: 5 > 4 > 3
Visuals: 5 > 4 > 3
Music: 5 = 4 = 3
Story: 3 > 5 = 4

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>>385785610
>4 over 3 for gameplay

>>385785507
>Party member slinks are terrible since all of the development for a character goes into their slink and has no bearing on the main story.

Party member S-Links/Confidants shouldn't be about that party member's character development if they are going to keep doing this. They're good gameplay wise though, so they should be kept for that though.

They should basically be some side story where it involves both the party member and MC, but the focus should be on the side story and how they both get involve and react and get affected to it, but not be about character development by this point, and save that for the main story.

>>385785650

I think everyone prefers three because the themes were just way darker and more in line with 1 and 2. Character development within the story might have been stronger but it also felt forced in a lot of places because tragic shit kept happening to the characters back to back and forcing them to grow up right there.

Then 4 comes along and we have a happier story and some drastic gameplay changes so it drives a huge wedge into the fanbase. Personally I love them all but I can see where the divide comes from.

This is coming from a guy who's played them 3>4>2>5 btw, at the time of 3's release it felt like the best damn game I have ever played but looking back it had a lot of problems and the psp version and "The Answer" were hot garbage.

>>385782019
Not only that, but there are voiced lines where Akechi calls Loki normally, instead of in a crazed voice

>>385785960

I'm still wondering about those Sae romance lines they dug up recently...how the fuck will that even work?

5 does a lot of stuff right. The group actually feels like it would stay together without you, unlike P4's, and I liked how the party was the main driving force of the plot, instead of just being reactive.

Overall 3=5>4

>>385784235
The fact that each character has their own arc tied to the story which also means they get their ultimate persona is a big thing for when I like persona 3. The fact you can go through the game and each party member could never have their own troubles resolved if you don't do their S-links annoys me to no end.
Really what I want future persona games to do is make it so you can get a bunch of different outcomes or different ways to deal with a problem depending on where you are in certain S-links. Sorta like how in Alpha protocol you can get unique stuff depending on your relationship with people, in it's case you could start a mission with a stealthy vantage point or bursting through the gates in an APC on the turret.

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>>385785610

>>385786039
Romance dialogue options during the interrogation.
But in all seriousness, it might have originally been that a random officer would interrogate you in the beginning, and they probably worked Sae in there when they started making her dungeon

Best thing about P5 was how it let me play wingman for Ryuuji with Ann.

>It's all thanks to Ryuuji
>Go thank Ryuuji
>It was Ruuuji's ideia

>>385785507
Agreed. Go back to P3 style or just cut out party S.Links altogether.

Also stop pandering too hard for wish fulfillment otaku and make it so party members can have their own love lives like Junpei.

>>385785937
That's why they should go back to P3 style. I'm more forgiving of P4 since they get some development in their dungeons and wanted to try something different but P5 characters get virtually no development which makes it even worst they should know that the 4 style didn't work.

>>385785650
Atlus admitted in an interview they spent a lot of time on 3 making sure everything fit together. The music, the visuals, the themes, everything was designed with a purpose in mind.

P4 was rushed out like a year or two afterwards so if anything it's the one that feels like a carbon copy of 3.

>>385779086
>3 has a good story meme
When will it die?

>>385778839
its a shitty game if your not a weebshit that eats ups every generic weeaboo simulator 2k17,literally never seen anyone talk about outside /v/

>>385786365
This is what pisses me off to no end. P4 outright castrated the other male party members by having the girls constantly humilliate them and by turning Kanji's affection for Naoto into a running joke. I hoped you'd at least get to set up Ryuji with Ann of you didn't romance her, but I guess otaku would burn her figurines and call her a whore of she could romance anyone but the MC

>>385779470
P4 had shitty villains.
- Mitsuo: cray cray
- Adachi: goes OOC and turns into a Saturday cartoon villain
- Big Eye final boss: literally who
- Izanami: literally who

>>385786528
The easy solution is just to give them a love interest that wasn't a party member. Like Chidori was an NPC villain so you couldn't date her so no one can cry "cuck" or whatever.

Although I guess this goes back to hurting the player power fantasy Atlus is building up where the MC has to be able to fuck everyone and everything and anyone who gets in the way will ruin it.

>>385786440
What other websites do you go to, anon?

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>Normal Battle
Last Surprise > Mass Destruction > Time to Make History > Reach Out to the Truth
>Boss Battle
Blooming Villain > I'll Face Myself > Master of Shadow > Master of Tartarus
>Unique Battle
Rivers in the Desert > The Almighty > Will Power > Fog > Unavoidable Battle > New World Fool
>Final Battle
Battle for Everyone's Souls > Jaldabaoth > Genesis
>Staff Roll
Memories of You > Never More > With the Stars and Us

P3
>A well written character study and philosophical analysis of nihilism disguised as social sim JRPG

P4
>Scooby Doo but centered around japanese mythos and written for lonely friendless otaku

P5
>Heist movie stretched to 120 hours

>>385786637
Junpei and Chidori work well because of the way they're written, both thematically and in how they complement each other.

Junpei spends the first half of the game angry at himself for not being able to step up and truly shine at being a member of SEES. He's constantly outclassed by the MC and it pisses him off because he has felt powerless his entire life thanks to his abusive father. Using a Persona is what sets him apart from normal people, but even so he's still a loser.
Along comes Chidori who is a turning point for Junpei. By visiting her at the hospital and giving her his affection he's able to have a positive influence on someone for the first time, and he does it by being a genuine person, not by using superpowers. It comes full circle when Chidori, who now thanks to Junpei understands how important life is, decides to sacrifice her own to save his. Right then and there she gives him the most powerful demonstration of love he had ever gotten, and it shapes his character going forward, while also foreshadowing the end of the game.

It's great stuff and I wish we still had writing like that in the series

I just got the game and played my first few matches and it seems like it's retardedly easy to get the top spot with a 500 or lead. Thing is that I barely get kills but I always cover turf. Seems like most people play this game like it's cawadooty

>>385779717
>Full party control

Persona 3 had full party control so I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. You obviously didn't even play it.

>>385787656
Boi.

>>385787835
>he only played p3p
Fag

>>385778839
Since this is a p5 thread, when ryuji asks if joker wants marriage, does the reaction change based on who you waifu?

>>385788494

Yes, I was dating Futaba and she got real flustered about it.

>>385787538
Fucking spoilers nigger, thanks.

>>385779086
5>4>>>>>3

5=4=3
Idk why people pretend P3 is somehow better than the others when they all have the same quality which is great

>>385788681
It came out 11 years ago and you're in a P5 thread. Sorry but I'm not sorry

>>385787538

Junpei and Akihiko were literally the only one's who's awakening's had any impact. Mitsuru/Yukari were both "muh daddy issues", Ken watched someone get murdered and decides to pretend he's not a bitch, and Aigis spontaneously sprouts emotions (although her's arguably had meaning too).

Everyone who pretends the P3 awakenings aside from Junpei/Akihiko were better than 4 and 5s are just reaching.

>tfw 2 million yen later and i'm still not even close to getting satanel

christ, trying to get all these high level persona is a bitch

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I wonder if people would have liked P5 more or less over the previous ones, had it stuck with the whole travel the world concept it originally had before they changed it up.

>>385788936
All of those still work better than the awakenings in P4 and P5 because they're built up to inside the story. There's thematic meaning to them.

>>385786818
>character study and philosophical analysis of nihilism
Autism. The plot is the interesting bit, not its 'le deep meaning'. You're the type of goob that thinks Evangelion is deep and meaningful, when really it's just a great plot

>>385788936
I hope you know simplify something by saying "muh" and making vague, blank statements makes you look like a retard.

>>385788958
Remember to grind Mementos bosses with confusion for infinite loadsemone.

>>385789345

I was trying to sound exactly as retarded as those two scenes were. Apparently it worked.

Because it reminds me what old video games were like. Just revamped

>>385786538
P3 had shitty villains
-Skrillex
-Wendy's girl
-revolver jesus
-nyx was pretty cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaIo82uT0qs

Post a better boss theme

>>385790989

I had to think about who Skrillex was referring to for a second....he was that forgettable.

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>>385791631
I can't

>>385791631
I'm trying but I can't think of anything.

>>385785538
We'll have to wait and see with SMT HD but I don't see them keeping the same tone as past SMT games. SMT 4 Apocalypse was already leaning towards Persona territory.

>>385789237
>implying P4 and P5 didn't
Come on senpai, it is like you didn't even play it

How did junior detective hear Morgana's voice in the real world? Was it ever explained?

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>>385793837

You know, after reading jap polls and how most people pick the bonds path instead of siding with Dagda I fear SMT is doom forever.

IV open a floodgate we cant close

>>385794145

Yes? He had his persona already because he was the guy causing all of the mental shutdowns. That's all explained when you confront him late game.

>>385794145
He had already been in the metaverse before, and was quite possibly following/watching them for a while.
Thus he had heard Morgana talk and now was able to listen to him I'm the real world.

I would argue that the milking of P4 grratly contributed to the franchise's popularity in the years leading up to P5's announcement and the first trailer, which racked up millions of views extremely fast.

>>385794235
>persona

>>385794237
>metaverse listening to morgana

Which is it then?

I feel like anybody that argues P3's story is any good just doesn't remember shit about it.

Everything from the main threats not doing jackshit, to the principal being a villain, to Strega's involvement, was completely underwhelming and pointless.

The only thing that's any good in P3 is Junpei's and Shinji's character arcs, and they don't really do much to redeem the whole thing since they're footnotes in the grand scheme of the plot.

>>385786538
>Adachi turns into a Saturday morning cartoon villain
I mean the rest is whatever but that's plain not true
P4's issue was being laughably low budget and, in terms of writing, pathetically low effort
They didn't even plan out the murder mystery properly and they literally keep information that solves the case from the player

>>385794312
Its the metaverse rather than the persona, the explanation is that by hearing Morgana talk in the metaverse your cognition of the cat form changes so you can understand him outside of it.
That's why Haru can also listen to him before her true awakening.

>>385794237

I'm pretty sure he didn't know Morgana could talk at that point and just was able to hear him because he had already awakened. If he did that was basically giving himself away knowingly.

>>385793837
Are you retarded or did you just not play any SMT besides Nocturne?

>>385778839
ironic "weebs"

>>385794602

Every supposed SMT fan on /v/ has only played nocturne and just wants every game to be nocturne

Because it had style

>>385778839
It is really annoying how sometimes the game decides that you only have permission to press X and maybe touch the sticks if you're good. It'd be nice to be trusted enough to explore.

>>385794549
What I got from it was that he was pretty much following the PT throughout some of the palaces. He couldn't have known that the cat in the real world was Morgana in the metaverse, that's where he actually slipped. He never took into account that a fucking talking cat was with them the whole time in the metaverse and out of it.

Either way if it was just by having a persona, the point still stands, he fucked up by not knowing that the PT had a talking, persona-using cat with them.

>>385794490
sou desu ne

because everyone wants to fuck the MC

>>385794670
And I swear the "legit" fans like you want more anime shit like soul hackers and IV and think that I and II are too "archaic"

>>385794447
The plot itself sucked dick until the concept of Nyx was introduced, at which point all the themes relating to death (in the vague tarot card context) came together and worked well
Unfortunately the pacing and shadow of the month bullshit is still ass for most of the game, Ikutsuki is literally a retard who would've been better off just fucking killing himself, most of the social links are either awful or not even tangentially related to any theme or concept the game explores (the Star guy, fatass at the mall, Kenji, Nazi student council dude, Chihiro, the sports club guy, brown chick whose personality is literally just 'im a brown tomboy', old couple whose subplot is thematically relevant but still boring and pointless as fuck) and 90% of the cast just has mommy/daddy issues that don't really go anywhere worthwhile
I mean the social link thing can be applied to 4 and 5 as well but to a lesser extent (5 in particular seemed to actually make an effort to remain consistent in its themes of rebellion) and it's a shame because the concept allows for exploration and discussions of things that won't necessarily come up during the main story but fuck if Atlus are aware of it's potential besides dating simulator autistic neetbux

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>>385778839
>Why did persona 5 become so famous and took the series to the top?

Extremely well directed, unique style (always helps to stand out), great music.

>>385795119
Not him but fuck off, SJ was the closest we've come in recent times to the bar 2 set and 4 was a huge misstep that Apoc just barely manages to salvage

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>halfway want to play Persona series
>but in the years browsing here I learned the twist in 4 because it's been memed up.
Fuck you fags. I didn't have to deal with any of this bullshit with SMT games.

>>385795297
We're not even in disagreeance here, jack. SJ and Nocturne were mostly very tasteful. I suggest you quit while you're ahead before you get hurt

>>385795304
>he believes /v/'s meming
/v/ tricked me into thinking Ray Shields was the mastermind of AAI2

>>385795304
4's twist is terrible in every aspect anyway, the strength of these games is not in the overarching story but in the character dynamics and time management between dungeon segments
Play P3 FES (NOT Portable if it's your first time), then 4G then 5
If you really aren't feeling one of them you can probably drop the series, they're all very similar in terms of structure even if the themes and tone are different

>>385778839
Cause people are stupid
>>385779086
Casual faggot

>>385795481
He should just move on straight to 5. No point in playing inferior games.

>>385795573
I don't have a reaction pic condescending enough for you

>>385779193
>>385779594
>>385779747
>>385779769
>>385783629
>>385784240
>>385785496
>>385785764
>>385785828
>>385786068
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>>385788868

You all deserve to die, you are casual cancer you aren't even real fans

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>>385778839
Because Persona 4 became famous post-release due to the rise of the modern internet and all that build up led into the sequel when it finally came out.

>>385795662
>>385795539

Children aren't allowed on 4chan, much less mentally retarded ones.

>>385780612
how is golden's story worse

>>385795662
Persona 1 and 2 do not exist.

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>>385795632
>I don't have a reaction pic condescending enough for you

It's true though.
You're saying he should start with the shittiest game and stop if he's not feeling it. He also says that he's had the prior games spoiled for him, which makes the mediocre story even less interesting. So what you're left with is poor dungeons and gameplay.

He might as well just play the game that looks the best, sounds the best and plays the best.

>>385795884
Except 4 and 3 are still worth playing, especially considering the twist in 4 is stupid

>>385795750
Yet you like Persona, i'd say the child here is you and all these other idiots

>>385796056
Not really. There are more games than you'll ever have time playing that is "worth playing". Might as well only play the best ones.

>>385782718
yeah. atlust tried to pull an adachi on us but goro is nothing like adachi which is why it did not work. guy was legit batshit.

>>385783629
>P4 is fucking awesome
Oh, really? Tell me about how you love the shitty one-dimensional cast that sucks Yu's cock from the second he gets there. Tell me about how you just adore the laughable "dungeons" that consist of nothing but featureless corridors with one or two enemies in it. Tell me about how you thought it was so amazing that the cast literally covered their ears singing "la la la" when Adachi reprimanded them for being selfish brats (inb4 you say I was claiming adachi was in the right for his actions) and actually got away with it.
Please, tell me more about how awesome and epic and amazing and feelsy P4 is, you piece of shit.

>>385784292
That's not true. The whole point is that you as the MC could have easily ended up like adachi. That's what makes him kinda work besides the whole cartoon villain problem

>>385783702
4 hade much better intersctions with eachother than 5. the guys in 4 did plenty of stuff toghater.

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why would you guys play such a disgusting game?

>>385796980
Holy fuck, that's some cringe overload right there

>>385796980
To be fair, japanese culture is pretty fucking stupid.

>>385796980
>Game points out a social injustice as being awful
"HURR DURR HOW CAN THEY GLORIFY THIS SOCIAL INJUSTICE"

>>385797190
To not be fair. The man he fucked with pulled strings because he has that kind of power. Life isn't fair and the game does a good job of establishing that real quick.

>>385796980
>neogaf

but the guy should play more if he wants to see the MC get some justice in the end.

>read the edit:

ignorance is bliss indeed.

>>385796980
what a thin-skinned little bitch. If he played even half of it, he would have loved it.

>>385797190
thats what the game is trying to tell you but the dumbfuck cant handle it and gets triggerd.

he acts like a fucking Child.

>>385797323
My point is that in japan shunning, blacklisting, etc. is common practice.
Getting a second chance in japan is difficult, especially if you've been marked.

>>385778839
I haven't beaten it yet, nor did I hear anything about it. The PS4 is my first Sony console since the Ps1. I looked st the games at the store and p5 stood out. I guess that helps with sales?

>>385778839
>Why did persona 5 become so famous and took the series to the top?

Because the current state of JRPGs is in the trash right now.

Seriously, even mediocre as fuck games like Berseria or rough and unfinished as fuck games like FF15 are getting tons of praise. That's how bad it has gotten.

So when a legit good JRPG comes along it naturally gets tons of praise.

How long does the game last? I'm in September now. I don't want it to end ;_;

>>385797884
Lasts until christmas.

>>385778839
Draught of decent JRPGs. Back then we had many choices, but as things stand now we only have 4-5 actual options.

>>385797550
Not them, but you're being dense, friend. Your point has nothing to do with why the image was capped or why that guy getting triggered like that is so silly.

>>385797884

Till christmas, you have a way to go still

>>385780134
It was just pulp, gory shit that only got popular due to shock factor.

>>385797947
He's annoyed over the unfairness and how people treat the protag, this is japanese culture.

Him quitting the game and not wanting to continue playing even after people tell him it gets better/is explained is entirely different.

I personally think japanese culture is stupid on many levels.

>>385779470
>because it's placed last it means it's shit

Great game but not as strong as the other two.

>>385798275

I love them all but lets not lie to ourselves...they've gotten progressively better.

>>385797919
>>385797987
Can you play past Christmas for events? It's weird that there's no Valentine's Day.

>>385798457

There is but the game skips straight to it, your free days end at christmas

>>385797745
>Legit good

Persona drones are the worst fanbase in all video games

>>385798581
You're the biggest retard here.

You assume I'm some massive Persona fanboy when you know jack shit about me. Why? Because I said Persona 5 is a good game (heresy for any retarded autist such as yourself).

Try and be less of a judgemental idiot next time.

>>385797745
I disagree and agree
JRPGs havent changed they are not worse than they were in the 90s you just grew up and can see their bullshit, they are also not novel anymore.

SMT was always legit good, or at least have good ideas if the execution was sometimes poor
Old FF though or even CT they are not good games or fun to replay

>>385779796
If you confuse the momento bosses they drop loads of money

just listen
let me tell ya
hear what you're missin'
shut up and listen

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>>385779470
Most of them haven't played it. They follow the "scoobie doo me me xDDD".