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How do we bring people back for the Online?

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Make the game easier for newcomers.

Like how in story mode you could hold a button and get a special instantly. Make noob only rooms that let people dick around like that, then when they are hooked they can learn the game for real and join the rest of us.
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fightin gaemz are 2 hard lol
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>>385758754
Bring back a returning character instead of characters from other games.
Also put in a mode where people can see the frames on moves. Having PC only have it in the shape of a mod is just dumb.
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>>385758754
by releasing a good game
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>>385758978
Literally no one plays Lei, get over it Leifags.
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Make it easier.
Fighting games are trash online anyway
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>>385758754
by removing dragunov/jack/hwoarang, 90% of the matches I play are against these faggot, there are characters I still haven't played against
I had more fun in the blue/greens rank where people play different characters
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>>385759742
Also take out Law and Eddy
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>>385759792
And Asuka, Chloe, Josie
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By making it more fun.
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>>385759854
And all Mishimas. Their devil sweeps are OP
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Crossplat play is what is keeping SFV alive.
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>>385758754
Mutator lobbies. Can remove shit so pros dont juggle, stun, juggle, bounce, juggle your healthbar away
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>>385760116
this
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>>385760116
PS4 can't handle it. Too much lag.
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>>385760161
>Make lobbies were you remove fighting from a fighting game

Kek, typical scrub mentality.
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I finnd it funny that Namco helped Capcom with SFV online when the fucks barely can do it properly themselves
>>385760116
This would be a great start
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>>385758754
1 on 1 fighting games are inherently more personal. When a noob gets shat on and taunted at the end of a match it could put them off the game for good. It's impossible to make fighting games as big as they once were.
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>>385760269
>waaah why is my game playerbase declining
Enjoy it while it lasts then fag. Nobodies going to bother learning when you get wrecked in 10 seconds. Tekken used to be fun when juggles were actually a challenge to preform and using the correct move at the correct time mattered, now its just remember a combo and off you go.
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>>385760410
More like now it's just press R2 and do a super combo that takes off 1/2 the other guy's life
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>>385760396
They used to be big before because you would play with your friends in the same console. They would tend to be the same level in skill as you and online lag wasnt an issue. Only time you might get wiped with the floor is if a pro was in an arcade
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>>385760410
wow so instead of actually learning the game we could just get rid of the game
Great idea champ

fuck off
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>no tutorial
>no trials
>no fun modes like bowling/volleyball
>only a 2-hour story for offline shit

it had the same amount of content as sfv lmao
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Add Lei
Add Julia or Michelle
Add Mokujin
Add Roger or Alex
Add Zafina
Add Jinpachi
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>>385760816
It has customization tho
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>>385760857
>cosmetics

nice gameplay
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>>385760816
>no tutorial
there are videos online
>no trials
???
>no fun modes like bowling/volleyball
its a fighting game
>only a 2-hour story for offline shit
story doesn't matter in a fighting game
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>>385761018
Still more content than SFV had
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>>385760857
wow I can give them pink hair and put a daruma otoshi game on their head, truly the SFV killer
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Online seems pretty populated to me
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>>385761112
Videos online are still not a tutorial. I shouldn't have to do research outside the game to learn basic mechanics.
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>bring back the classic characters literally everyone is asking for instead of more guest shit
>delete the bears

there I fixed tekken 7.
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>>385761112
>there are videos online

This is the dumbest argument you can ever pull. Even retarded MOBA fags pull this card.

Protip: Newcomers won't try and scour he net for random tutorials hoping to find decent ones, nor should they need to.

If the devs can't even teach new players how to play the game in their own game they fucking failed.
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>>385761154
I spent 10 minutes in autism simulator, I just want to play the game
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We don't and let free market do its thing? Fighting games are not fun, Overwatch is fun.
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>>385760224
>sfv has crossplay
>"ps4 cant handle it"
>sfv on ps4
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>>385760526
>getting hit by rage arts
lmao
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>>385758754
I can't even get a match online it always get "a communication error occured" mid match
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>>385761209
>infinite costume possibilities for free
vs
>$4.99 per costume, buy the whole set for an extra $49.99
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>>385758754
Make the game load faster and the matchmaking less shit.
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Actually, the real problem with Tekken 7 is that is too complicated a juggle reliant. It needs to more like the older tekken games or like soul calibur where the game is more about pokes and has barely any combos
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>>385761493
I don't care what SFV did, for Tekken the PS4 version is vastly inferior with more input lag online than the PC version has. They are simply not compatible.
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>>385761563
works on my machine :^)
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they couldn't even be assed to make a story for each character. too much focus on the nonsensical edgy main story. the character episodes were mostly lame and unmemorable. it just felt lazy.
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>>385760854
this also where the fuck are the over hundred costumes of the season pass??? add Dark Resurecction customisation and classic costumes too
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>>385760816
>no fun modes like bowling
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BaJENh1Irs
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>>385761525
>infinite possibilities
>all clothes are either goofy, formal or early 2000s baggy jean hip hop shit
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>>385761774
Probably next month (Sept). They said the end of summer.
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Single player content + iconic and lovable characters for a casual audience

Why do you think MK and injustice sell as much even though they're inherently bad FGs? because there's sub zero, scorpion, superman, fucking batman, a story mode and some retarded single player shit to do

This >>385761563 is retarded. It might be your excuse and that's fine, but a casual will never think about these things when comtemplating buying a game

They will also never think about which version is superior. Most have a PS4 and that's the end of that; plug and play, mash some shit with your favorite character and call it a day
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>>385761775
wow they copy pasted the shit mode of TT2 for WiiU such an awesome value DLC! XD
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>>385761910
>they're inherently bad FGs
>citation needed

Your terrible opinion isn't proof. At least they show us frame data for each move which no other series can be assed to do.
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>no crossplay on PC because of Sony
>no jukebox on PC because of Sony
>no VR mode on PC because of Sony
>missing legacy costumes on PC because of Sony
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make it injustice 2.
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>>385761923
i hope you're not the guy i just replied to
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Make Ranked matches on console a better experience (in regards to matchmaking and connecting with other players quickly).
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Bring back the match list already.
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>>385761910
>load times are retarded

Casuals quit games if there is too much waiting. It's not about getting then to buy the game it's about player retention
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I still get matches in no time
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>>385761775
>have to pay for it

no fuck that, the other games had it for free
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>>385762032
fucking this.

matchmaking isn't a step forward in fighting games.

I can find more opponents in fucking ultra street fighter II faster because I can manually search for opponents.

I mean what is even the point of taking it out?
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no tekken ball

I played that more than the actual game as a kid
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>>385758754
You're referring to the PS4 version correct? Is it actually dead and hard to find matches? I find it hard to believe for such a new game. It's still going pretty good on PC. Anywhere from 2-4k players at any moment.
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>>385758754
Very few people play online fghting game for too long.
There is no explanation or fixing needed, doesn't matter how good this is.
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I seriously don't know how Aris is still playing this game nightly almost 2 months after release. I got bored within two weeks.
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Tekken is boring, and there have not been any free content updates since launch.
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>>385762053
It's about them buying a game; you will fail to retain 95% of the casual playerbase, so might as well focus on making the big bucks, your brand known, and your tournaments well made, and that will attract a wider crowd who might buy the game, and even stay and learn how to properly play

>>385761961
"at least" is your sorry excuse for a proof. Everything else surrounding the core mechanics is laughable, and that includes balance

>>385762505
Pre-tekken 7 stream had about 1.5k views. Now he has 2.5 minimum and it goes up to even 5k when he re-streams tournaments. What do you think he's going to do?
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>>385762861
I doubt he's playing it just for the views. He never seemed the type to be obsessed with that. I think he just really likes the game. Good for him, I just don't get the appeal.
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>>385761231
>>385761374
If you guys can't even learn fighting game basics by just playing then you shouldn't be playing fighting games
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>>385762505
I can see how he can keep playing it. I'd be doing the same but now i'm too scared to play now that I'm up at juggernaut rank.
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>>385763082
Korean Backdash isn't something you tend to just stumble upon randomly.
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>>385761984
>>missing legacy costumes on PC because of Sony
you are not missing much they barely added a couple
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>>385763201
korean backdash isn't a basic fighting game mechanic and it isn't needed to know when starting out
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>>385761112
This shit matters when Tekken's historically had tons of single player content and gimmick modes for casuals, SFV has more content than it for fucks sake
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>>385761570
this, please... people just spam the same buttons to get their combo that they have learned to try to win. its sad how bad they are.
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>>385762053
It's not even about casual vs. hardcore, people are unlikely to become hardcore players of games that are miserable to live with
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>>385763390
SFV was also poorly made and even the pros don't like it.
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>>385763004
It's about keeping it relevant while at the same time bringing new audience (which is something on-topic, now that I think about it). The streaming and the youtube content go hand-to-hand. Check the comments on most of those youtube vids and you can tell how there's a shitton of people who are willing to learn and are thanking him for being a good source; that's good content

Doing it for the views (or rather, the money) seems to be just a bonus, you're right
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>>385763365
It is a basic skill for Tekken. Enjoy getting rekt without it.
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>>385762218
>I mean what is even the point of taking it out?
They have this misguided idea that online rank matters so they dont want people cherry picking matchups.
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>>385758754
>shit roster
>garbage story mode even by fighting game story mode standards
>worse netcode than SFV
>abysmal load times
>rage arts
>jank as fuck combo system
>missing content that was standard in previous Tekken games at launch and is going to sell it back to you later
Where were you when Harada revealed himself to be a bigger hack than Ono?
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>>385763748
>how do we improve online player retention
>let's remove rankings, the carrot that keeps millions of retards playing online multiplayer games
Games where people only do non-ranked are dead games, unfortunately.
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>>385758754
the game's fine. look how mad the casuals who dont play tekken are in this thread. plenty of people playing online, i'm one rank below red and i find matches just fine. we don't want the casual audience, theyre always going to quit a figthing game after a week or two anyways
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>>385764035
he's been so since he made Revolution instead of updating TT2
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>>385764480
Right looks way better, which ever that is.
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Anybody want to play on PS4?
I'm not great, but I'm always down for a game with others.
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>>385764838
That was Revolution an unbuyable Tekken
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>>385765589
Did they shrink her head?
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How are the mods on PC? Anything worth checking out?
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is this the most disappointing fighting game of this gen? I remember the hype being crazy before release but now the overall impression seems very negative. what went wrong?
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>>385766037
I think KoF14 still takes it because it didn't even get hype
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>>385766037
It's a hollow game missing tons of features and characters. Pretty much sums it up.
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>>385766156
if expectations weren't high to begin with than it's not really disappointing.
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>>385766037
I wouldn't go that far. But people were expecting way more from T7 considering it took like 2 years to come from arcade to console/PC. Other then well. What we got.
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>>385761984
Sony has always been the biggest purveyors of bad business practice in the industry. Sonybros who support them are the reason gaming has gone to complete shit.
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Remove low effort characters like Katarina & Josie
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>>385765416
This is the biggest problem with it right now. An offer to play, and no one is taking it. Despite all the circle jerking /v/ did before the game came out about how it was going to beat SFV, no one even plays the game. SFV threads still gets lobbies. You fuckers won't even play. Seeing as how this board loves to hate on MvC:I and circle jerk about how great DBZF is, I'm going to bet that DBZF is dead within a month as well while MvCI continues to have a strong presence.
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>>385764480
God I want to fuck Alisa so bad
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>>385766571
nah steam is the reason gaming has gone to shit. if you can't see that than you truly are a lost cause.
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>>385766797
t. Lars.
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>>385760410
This is my first serious tekken and Im doing alright maybe you should just stop being a baby
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>>385761570
I can win matches with just pokes as miguel and feng juggles aren't everything
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>>385758754
>How do we bring people back for the Online?
Give the franchise to actually competent Western devs, like NRS, There's a reason Injustice 2 shat on this trash by every conceivable metric.
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>>385767291
t. Ed Boon
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>>385760410
TTT2 was my first fighting game and I got to Warrior in that game in no time. Stop being a bitch and asking for games to be dumb down cause you are fucking retarded
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>>385761279
>i want ALL the classic characters!
>except this one
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>>385761570
This guy fucking gets it. Easiest way to spot a newcomer fag is if they defend the shitty modern juggleing
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>>385761923
How fucking underage are you?
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>>385761984
>no crossplay on PC because of Sony
Yet SFV has it you fucking salty imbecile
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>>385765416
Add cloud1986 and I'll play.
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>>385763201
Funny, because a lot of those videos you saud people should be watching say that you should add this into your game early on
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>>385766775
This isn't a thread about playing the game. This is a thread about making petty excuses not to play the game.
You'd be better off on a completely different website if you want games bruh.
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>>385768575
Feck, ment for
>>385763365
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>Find matches in under a minute
>Still has over 4K people playing it a day
Don't know about PS4 but PC is doing just fine
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>>385766037
I know i am dissapointed by it
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>>385768737
>Find matches in about 15 minutes
Fixed that for you
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>>385768737
This. I'm literally drowning in matches, even at odd ours of the day.
Yet, I still see these threads everyday. Makes me think someone's salty.
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You don't, tekken is a barebones game barely better than SFV. Move on to the next fighter that comes out
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>>385767016
This thread is about getting newcomers to play. Not about how skilled at the new autism mechanics you are
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The game is hard. Each character has like 100 moves.

The player base on PC consists of dota fags, souls, For Honor fans.

Guess how many combos or moves you can pull with any of those games?
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>>385768858
Pic related.
>>385768885
OP has been doing this since T7 released for consoles
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>>385767505
>Stop being a bitch and asking for games to be dumb down cause you are fucking retarded
Thats exactly what they have donenwith modern tekken you braindead mongrel. Fucking rage arts, way easier juggles and stun moves etc
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>>385768963
yeah they need to dumb down the movelist, pros don't even use more than 20, they need to make universal launchers/spins as well, shit is annoying
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>>385769058
I just want to know why OP's so assblasted, he feels the need to make the same thread over and over again.
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>>385768885
this is bait
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>>385761570

>reward people for button press 20% single normals

yeah sounds super fun, I'd rather be able to whiff punish into a 30 - 35% combo thats actually fun
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>385769371
THIS is bait.
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The fact that I can type all this and still have time to do the fucking captcha puzzle should be proof enough that it takes too long to find an opponent.
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>>385769513
Post a screencap to prove you're even playing the game.
Also, post ID
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>>385769701
I'm cloud1986
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>>385769845
>1986

High five my fellow 31 year old
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>>385766752
Nothing wrong with josie shes hardly a low effort character if you actually want to get good with her and win games at a high level, law is probably the worst and he's been in every game
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>>385758754
Anyone who's been exposed to more technical, more dynamic fighting games will quickly pass on tekken. Other top fighters, namely Street Fighter, KoF and MK have advanced impressively in their latest installments; but the relic that is tekken just can't seem to evolve, furthermore many combos can be done simply by hitting 1-button, and the nearly "instant-kill" rage art moves are just laughably broken. Instead of a supplying a proper fighting engine, matches in T7 seem to rely heavily on "who can get their rage move off first". So many elements of the gameplay don't even require any sort of skill. In my book, slow motion over and over again also gets old very quickly. And in the end, it's more of a novelty or gimmick rather than an actual, thought-out fighting game mechanic. But hey, the casual crowd will be pleased!

If you want something a little more "button-masher-friendly," tekken might be your cup of tea.... Key word, might.
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>>38576894
So you would rather they dumbed the game down rather than putting the time and effort into learning and getting better? if thats the case fighting games arent for you stick to your brainlet trash
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>>385770389
This must be the 100th time ive read this pasta since t7 was released
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>>385770389

Do people really play KoF?
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>been playing since Tekken 1
>still can't KBD

kill me
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>>385770797
IKTF
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>>385770797
Its back down back repeatedly, on pad press back and slide your thumb over down and back
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>>385758884
this, make remove non-electric EWGF
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>PC players saying matches are everywhere
>PS4 players saying matches are everywhere
>OP: How do we bring people back for the Online?

I don't see the logic here, we have OP with no claims of playing the game, and we have people who are playing the game on both PC and console finding matches easily. I can't find links to people complaining about matchmaking, is it people's bad internet that's the complaint here? Is there a specific place besides /v/ that people have been complaining about online in T7?
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>>385771362
Or you could just put the time and effort into practicing it you fucking retard, i couldn't do it at all when i started using kazuya a couple weeks ago and now i do it perfectly every time. im glad tekken isn't catering to you lazy brainlets
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>>385771168
Who cares, real fighters play on stick. And on stick it's not so easy.
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>>385769060
Rage arts are easy to bait out and punish.

The bound system in T6 and TTT2 was fucking broken and was the reason many stopped playing those games. IF by stun moves you mean Armor moves guess what? If they dont have enough health to tank the hit they dont work they are also weak to lows. Armor moves exist to punish button mashing.
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>>385771690
I get long wait times during the day. It's 2.30 am and I have little trouble right now.
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>>385771168
Dude. not even close.
Tap back, Hold back, transition from back to downback long enough to crouch, then let go to neutral.
Then it's back to down back to neutral over and over.
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>>385770797
A-at least you can EWGF properly.
You get the hang of that after some time r-right?
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>>385771838
its extremely easy, you are just retarded
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>>385771991
My main playtime is during the day on PS4, because I work a night shift. I don't usually run into long wait times, every once in a while though it will happen. I guess its because its the middle of the day in the middle of the week and not as many people are playing during that time anyway. It is definitely always populated late at night when I play too.
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Reminder tekken 7 has the most input lag out of any fighting game ever made

http://shoryuken.com/2017/06/02/tekken-7s-input-delay-has-been-tested-heres-how-it-compares-to-other-games-and-its-predecessors/
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Uhhhh, I can find matches pretty consistently in Tekken 7, even at 5am with there being no lag whatsoever on PS4 regardless if it's ranked or player match.On SFV which is apparently the most popular fighting game out at the moment It take upwards of 5 mins to find games after 11pm. You PC guys love to forget other platforms exist and think the whole world revolves around you, sad.
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>>385771765
>a couple weeks
14x7x3(3 weeks?)=294 hours
wow your mom must be proud
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>>385772201
this is bait
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>>385772298
>Falseflagging makes it not true

Your whole life is bait.
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>>385770797
Isn't that shit also easier on actual korean sticks tho?
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>>385761593
There's noticeable delay on PS4 for SF5. I don't know if it's as bad but there's no reason not to crossplatform.
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>>385772298
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>>385772382
Not particularly, you just get better feedback from your directional inputs than on a Jap stick.
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>>385771998
I do it perfectly, i was trying to simplify it for him, and you only have to worry about neutral on stick
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>>385772506
>You only have to worry about neutral on stick

Uhhh no? Do you know what the neutral even does? It gives you the first back input on your next backdash. It's easier to KBD on a pad, but saying that you don't need to return to neutral on a pad is just wrong.

t.Someone who can actually KBD consistently
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why isnt there any tutorial mode in this game?
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>>385772625
When you lift your thumb off back it goes to neutral so its not like an arcade stick where you have do it manually
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You don't, the people who buy fighting games are a majority people who have irl friends that play face to face
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>>385773013
>When you lift your thumb off back it goes to neutral
This is what you're not getting. When you go from d/b to neutral. The game automatically puts an additional back input immediately after the d/b input. So when you go from d/b to back, you're adding an unnecessary back input. So the d/b is literally only serving to cancel the backdash with the way you described. By doing it the way I described, you're getting a more efficient backdash cancel and are able to do it much quicker.

This does not matter whether it's on pad or stick. It's how it's done.
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>>385770797
>play on keyboard
>master kbd in a few days
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>>385758892
But it is though. I've been playing fighting games all my life and I'm still bad at it

This guy had the best rundown about it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VAOnY91Dtk
If you truly, truly want to git gud you have to dedicate hundreds of autistic hours on it. It's practically like playing musical instrument, but less respectable in society. You need to play fighting game because you enjoy learning and climbing the difficulty wall. Nobody who hated piano git gud at piano, nobody who hated math git gud at math. For most people this is an absolute chore. Even for low tier, pool fodders like me sometimes I like socializing more with other people in the FGC than actually autistically trying to improve my play.
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>>385771998
>>385771168
it has to look like this
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>SFV has terrible online, a god awful story mode, a total lack of tutorials
>People bash the fuck out of it for being "outdated" and not having any singleplayer

>Tekken 7 has terrible online, a god awful story mode, a total lack of tutorials
>People everywhere suck it's dick even though it also lacks any singleplayer content

>Despite all the hype, Tekken 7 drops players anyways
>Despite all the bashing, Abigail is now mega popular in SFV

How long is it going to take for people to stop playing tsundere about sucking Capcom's dick?
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>>385773539
No, it doesn't. In fact, this is the lazy man's way to KBD.
Characters like Nina, Paul, and Bryan cannot KBD this way because you will get a hella unsafe backsway instead.
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>HAHA THIS IS THE NEW SHIT FUCK YOU SF5 YOUR TRASH HA HAHAHA111
to
>uh.. guys, plz come back!!1
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>>385773702
I'll take Things Nobody But OP Said for 100, Alex.
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>>385773635
>main nina
>never get a backsway using this method
>it doesn't even have a down input to trigger a qcb
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>>385773702

It will happen again with Marvel.
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>>385773883
you clearly werent around for the hype of tekken release
cancer was out in droves
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>>385758754
>Got online yesterday and found plenty of matches on PS4
This game is dead...... on PC?
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>>385773952
>Main nina
Calling bullshit right now.
t. A nina main for the last 10 years.
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>>385774185
Nu-PCfags hate games that require skill, it's why fighting games rarely succeed while shit like OW and PUBG sells like hotcakes.
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>>385773635
Pretty sure the lazy mans way is BBQCB BQCB repeat or whatever. The way that guy posted did it is the legit way to do KBD that specifically DOESN'T trigger those backsways. Doing it on Paul right now lol.
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>>385774001
I was here for the release. What I said was that nobody is begging people to come back to the game. Nobody.
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>>385774395
first part
>b,
repeating part
>b,db,b
No down input. You literally can't qcb.
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>>385774185
Yep.

PCfats are still pretending it isn't, for some reason.
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>>385773978
And with DBFZ. Just watch.
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>>385759854
>asuka
Why do people complain about her? She seems pretty fair.
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>>385774849
I hate how you cant see how many matches you/we lost
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>>385775780
Do the math, idiot
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>>385775704
Annoying defensive tools (backflip, nosebleed launcher) and some annoying low pressure that leads to big girl damage. I think most people don't lab against those strings/moves and then just complain about her.
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>>385776049
Nah. I like TTT2's way of just showing me the numbers. But it's hard to get basic features in Tekken games like replays and Win/Lose data from Namco
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>>385775780
You can when you look at character specific stats. All you have to do is minus the matches played with wins.
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>>385773539
why not hit the glide move that these characters have to move backwards?
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>play on PC
>with new patch finding matches takes under 10 seconds. I cannot even warm up properly by doing full combo.
>see these threads pop up all the time
Shitting on this game is the biggest proof that nu-/v/ will shit on every game with hope to get new Tortanic.
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>>385776837
>cannot even warm up properly by doing full combo.

Fucking this.
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I ended up buying tag tournament 2 a week before 7, played both at the same time.

Its pretty obvious that TT2 has more content and I ended up playing it a lot more.

It really doesn't help that 7 had abysmal online issues on PS4 at launch and the I got the platinum for it in less than 3 days.

I ended up playing TT2 a lot more because it has more content and the online actually worked.
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>>385770797
Why is this still a thing? Why not just make it a normal backdash if it's such a fundamental thing
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>Tekken 7 sees more players than Street Figher V on a day to day basis, the game that's supposedly "alive".
>Naturally this means that T7 also sees more play than other fighters online
>But Tekken 7 is the "dead" one
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>>385759742
>Tfw people only played dragunov because some famous guy plays him
I played that nigga since tekken 5 on the psp
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>>385776837
this is bait
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>>385780795
Harada is terrified that if he ever removes anything his cash cow player base will revolt.
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>>385761112
>launch game
>"oh man, I can't wait to play it!"
>game has no tutorials whatsoever
>"look for tutorials online, noob"
>close game
>guide videos are hours long
>uninstall and refund

Nice game
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>>385782557
play against AI retard. How hard can it be to learn how to play the game by fucking playing it?
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i played like 16 hours straight the other day, on fucking PC. The game still is alive, the fuck are you niggas smoking.
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>>385775704
people just dont fucking know how to play against her
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>>385775704
I used to spam her parry against my friend and he would get livid since it lasted so fucking long and could parry a wide array of attacks
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>>385759458
LiTeRaLlY nO oNe PlAyS lEi; gEt OvEr It LeIfAgS.

>(you)

If a character has a massive demand for release than clearly a ton of people play(ed) him you retard.
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>>385781921
Harada definitely needs to remove the need for KBD. I'm convinced you have to have the hand coordination of a god to be able to get this shit down properly, at least on a gamepad.
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>>385759742
Complaining about Dragunov in Tekken 7 is like complaining about a Shoto in a Street Fighter. He's a scrub stomper early but requires work at a higher level. Both have mechanics and combos for each skill level that shows your progression.

Plus, tons of people play him COUGHArisCOUGH, so there is information readily available from a good personality that provides both good insight to the character and entertainment. You can see why he's popular. The first clips of Tekken 7 I saw was JDCR vs. Saint at a tournament about a month or so ago, maybe Combobreaker. I saw Dragunov's rushdown heavy kit and instantly found a simple main from which to learn the rest of the cast. I didn't even know who JDCR was at the time.

Give people a break. Maybe learn how to block d2. I've heard from friends who are long time Tekken players that Hwoarang has been popular for a while though, so I'm not sure what's up with that. I'm fairly new to Tekken apart from TTT1 as a scrub back in the day.
>>
What I don't get is that why there was so much hype to begin with. It was obvious from the beginning that the core gameplay is barely changed from TTT2/T6. If you had such a huge boner for rage arts or any of the new characters (each of which are either uninspired or should fuck off to Street Fighter), you've got a shit taste. Not to mention all the missing stuff from previous installments.
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>All this people saying this would kill whatever left of SFV
>Now its in a worse situation than it like 2 months after release

Simply ebin kek.

Shame about it because this is my fav fightning franchise (but 7 is fucking trash and i will not touch it until they actually make a game out of this bare tech demo) but good because you faggots were so fucking obnoxious about it during its release
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>>385788592
It's crazy how charismatic Aris is. Fergus's Asuka guide has a ton of good info, but he is boring as fuck.
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>>385758754
I don't know OP, I must have been playing online against CPUs the entire time
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>>385766037
From purely a gameplay perspective it's great but as a whole package it's lacking.
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>>385758754
I'll buy it if they match the content of TTT2, including characters and modes
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>>385789221
Please stop embarrassing yourself
>>
is it really that dead? it's on sale for $47 I was going to buy it.
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>>385758754
make online less fucking shit.

Tekken7 has the worst lobbies I have seen in a fighting game.
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>>385762505
Shit's probably super fun if you're very good at it.
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>>385772971
Because the only people who play it seriously are Koreans and they learned how 10 years ago.
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>>385766037
Oh please, its clear that this is SFV.
And while thats really deserved I dont think people shit on Tekken7 enough. It has most of the issues SFV has and more. The launch was barely better and that was after delaying the game for two fucking years.

I do think that it will turn around for SFV though while Tekken will continue to drop. Harada isnt showing any signs to do proper changes to the game.
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>>385793527
Go ahead and get it, it's still new enough there are plenty of people playing.
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>>385758754

I don't follow. There are tons of matches on ps4, and it has more than double sfv's players on Steam. If that's considered dead, than not a single fighting game is alive right now.
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>>385776049

That screen doesnt show ranked matches only. It shows every match you've had with that character, ranked or not.

Anyways props to that guy for playing Nina. Such a fucking hard character to play. The fact that you have to learn iws+1 to do damage with your combos is annoying. Otherwise all your combos do less than 60.
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>>385786486
jesus is this ps4
>>
>>385766037

I really wouldn't take /v/'s opinion as representative. The impressions are pretty good, and they hooked a ton of new players. Tekken 7 is doing great business right now, I don't know what you all are smoking.
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>>385794937
Has to be. There's no way it takes that long to load on PC. Not on mine anyway.
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>>385758754
Plenty of people are still online, I have no problem finding matches.
That said, Tekken just needs a proper, comprehensive tutorial that covers kbd, and maybe a not shit story mode.
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>>385787341
Not him but that's fucking bullshit. Plenty of people asked for Jade in MKX but statistically nobody used her in 9
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>>385763365
korean backdash isn't a mechanic at all you fucking retard, and back dash canceling IS a basic fighting game mechanic.

Stupid fucking 09ers i swear to fucking god.
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If you all are having trouble with kbd just do the retard version. Backdash and sidestep. Its an ok alternative.

I want julia/michelle in the game already, I want my main holy shit. I cant even decide on one now. Master Raven, Xiaoyu, and Leo have been holding me over and Im learning hwoarang now. Trying to jfsr consistently is crazy hard. I wish I could complain about kbds.
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>>385796279
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>>385796378
No fucking bullshit. How do people that play him operate? Motherfucker has like 4 movesets.
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Shit game
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>>385773702
SFV is still trash and loses players every month.
If you thought that Tekken of all games would stay alive you are just deluded.
People wanted it to do well because it made SFV look ridiculous.
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>>385796486
once you play him for a while it becomes clear that his stances all share the same moves just different ways of doing them and you almost never even use 2 of them
>>
Does the game slow down randomly for anyone using a 1060? When there are a ton of effects? Have a 4690k too, it should be enough.
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>>385793527
No its not. I get matches in under a minute on pc EU.
>>
Why are people in this topic acting like it's dead while street fighter isn't? There's double the player online rn
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>>385798108
Plenty of people have connection issues with the game.

SFV also has crossplay to fall back on.
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I play stinky Chloe!!
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>>385773381
What keyboard you use my brother in key-related-arms?
>>
Anyone else still having problems finding ranked matches on PS4?

My current experience is that I can connect to at least every second person. First person is a 50/50 chance, but the second person is always 100%.

My friend however can connect with just 30% of people.
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