ITT: Games Made Out of Passion

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>>385741398
How about passion and desperation.

>>385741398
Ubisoft's games are better though

You realize the thought process behind that game was "Lets make Harvest Moon but sell it places Harvest Moon doesn't release!"

It's literally a game made to cash in on the fact that Harvest Moon games don't release on steam.

>>385741398
>experience
>game is coded so shitty that aiming your tools is wonky sometimes

Fuck off. Stardew Valley is ugly, barely functional garbage and the only reason it got big is because there was nothing else like it on PC at the time.

I enjoyed Cjild of light.

I get where you're going with this idea. I felt that with Destiny. I'm glad I didn't fall for The division. Could you imagine if that game had a more, last of us, feel to it?

Is the PS4 version of Stardew Valley any good in terms of how well it controls?

>>385741630
>I didn't follow the development process

The guy just wanted to make another good farming game since there's so few. He had no idea it was going to be so big, because the HM fanbase is niche as fuck. It's actually hard to believe how much it blew up.

That and the main thing that sold most people who heard about SV before it actually released was the multiplayer aspect, which is never ever going to come out ;_;

>>385742213
You're right, I didn't read the developer's excuses. No matter what reason he ripped off another game, I wouldn't define this as a passion project at all for that reason.

>>385741630
More like "let's make Harvest Moon, but good and on a relevant platform".

>>385742351
>ripped off
You're right, anon. No other farming/farm life sim games can ever exist. All FPS games are just rip offs of Doom.

>>385742351
I'd say it's less ripped off and more took cues from. It's not a direct copy of HM despite borrowing a lot of its mechanics. If you want more games like one you enjoyed, why would you change everything you liked about it?

>>385742528
What happened to La Mulana 2?

>>385742404
This, oh my god this.

Makes you wonder why the Story of Seasons team doesn't go back and make a sequel to HM:SNES or something in that light given there's an obvious market for old HM.

>>385742782
Coming soon (tm)

>>385741630
That wasn't his thought process at all. The guy is just obsessed with Harvest Moon, he used to spend all his time playing Harvest Moon RP servers on Minecraft and then decided to make his own Harvest Moon game. If he could have released it on Nintendo consoles from the start he would have. He wasn't targeting a market that wasn't able to buy Harvest Moon, he was targetting the only market it is easy to make games for.

>>385742782
The maker is frequently posting updates still, but if it's as big as the first game, I'm assuming it's going to take forever to finish being made.

>>385741947
git gud

>>385742036
I have the Xbone version which I would assume is the same. The controls get the job done but they're obviously not how the game was meant to be played.

Shut up and tell me about your waifu you FAG LORDS.

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Platform Masters

Playing this made me feel like Matt and Trey really enjoyed making a video game. And all the call backs to South Park episodes and to the genre it's parodying were great. The fondness for the material caught me off guard because I was under the impression Matt and Trey were sick and tired of the show.

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>>385741398
>By one guy
>Released for free

It's the best example I can give you right now

>>385741630
actually it was
>harvest moon is shit now, the original and talented devs left ages ago and now it's a zombie franchise only existing on previous good will and brand recognition
>I know! I'll make my own!

>>385743875
>One autistic Nip otaku did what thousands of wannabe 'indie game devs' can't (don't want to)

>>385742351
Hmm I don't think he ripped it off, but rather he was inspired by it.
Games can bring out one's passion to reinvent something the way they envision it or want to experience
I think a good example are all the romhacks for Pokémon. Some enhance the experience because it was created by someone who sees flaws or ways to better the game (Light Platinum?) ; others are completely for fun, creating a new experience that is still familiar (Snakewood? )

>>385741398
factorio devs are clearly in love with their game and beyond competent at every aspect of developement, including any community management. literally the only early access title that i have complete faith in it releasing.

all the games made by zachtronics like factorio and spacechem.
everytime someone mentions ac2 i want to cry

>>385746361
Zachtronics is absolutely goat. You could almost use Shenzhen I/O as a teaching tool.

>>385742838
are the harvest moon games not good? I played a little of one like ten years ago.

>>385741630
man you cynical assholes really have no place else to be?

>>385746361
>made by zachtronics like factorio
meant infinifactory

>axiom verge
my understanding is that tom happ made the entire game on his own and it's pretty fucking good. the art is great, the music is great, the story is pretty cliche but unfolds in a pretty interesting way, gameplay is as good as any other decent metroidvania.

>hollow knight
everything seems hand drawn and enemy designs are not only great but it's got a nice amount of enemy variety in the game. controls are tight and the overall balance of the game is well done.

>>385741398
Pretty sure I am Setsuna was a passion project.

not that it wasnt trading on nostaligia as well though

>>385747585
shut the fuck up

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Opinions on Persona 5? Feeling any love from Atlus or are they just cashing in the franchise?

>>385749945
Persona 5 was made with love and passion, it's the inevitable endless spinoffs that are gonna be the cash ins, just like with P4.

>>385741398
Stardew Valley desperately needs more content.

It's good, but it still practically feels like a beta.

>>385741947
>Fuck off. Stardew Valley is ugly, barely functional garbage
stopped reading there; such weak baits

If you can't crush it within your first year you're worse than a fucking casual, full stop.

>>385742717
Not him and I see your point but it's literally exactly Harvest Moon and brings nothing new to the table. Sorry but that other anon is right.

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Skullgirls

>>385749945
Persona games have always been for autistic losers with no friends who use them as surrogate friend/relationship replacements as they pretend they are in high school again and popular. A disgusting stain on the entire industry.

>sjw harvest moon that the first person you meet is a mudshark

>>385751009
>harvest moon had combat, an extensive collectible system, multiple production chains, homosexual relationships, etc
the worst baits ITT

>>385751208
Granpar isn't a mudshark you dumb sahit he's dead ghost

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Didn't Avellone read every single piece of Star Wars EU media while making the game?

>>385751197
Agreed. Persona fans are usually pitiful people.

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This games p cool

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>>385751582
Klei makes pretty good games

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Pic related of course.

>>385747252
HM hasn't been good since 2006 or so. It feels as soulless as any Ubisoft game

>>385751929
is the general still going?

>>385751929
OP said games

>>385743875
motherfucking dwarf fortress

>>385751929
The passion of autism and masterbation sure.

>>385749945
Persona 5 was absolutely fantastic, would definitely recommend. However, it does have massive issues with the story.

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>>385743064
Sebastian is my waifu. I love my little edgelord

>>385751994
Yes.

>>385752125
Crapawa shitjo is a game.

>>385752238
The devs, no. Fans, partially.

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>>385751143
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYn3tcu7oTc
Mike Z. still runs a weekly Skullgirls tournament in his area to this day and wins most of them
Alex Ahad had new art books with guest art for one of the characters at SDCC a few weeks ago

Witcher 3 was not made with passion

>hurr durr games i like are made by passion
>hurr game i dont like are soulless

>>385752685
>>385749945
Sorry, thought this was a different thread and didn't answer the question correctly. I do think they put a great deal of love into P5 and weren't just hoping to coast off the P4 wave. They nailed the aesthetics and Hashino was intent on putting out a story that tackled issues that were specifically Japanese, so much so he was a little worried about how international audiences would receive it.

>>385752890
>The devs, no
i was going to meme about >dev spotted but i don't even think they'd try and deny it.

>>385751197
>>385751507
Pitiful would be a game allowing all the time in the world to spend with an NPC over menial tasks and leveling up relationship when it has nothing to do with the story or, in itself, is not a side story.
Persona 5's characters, however ,do have a story of their own, whether directly or indirectly having an effect on gameplay and story. Their purpose isn't to appeal to losers searching to replace reality, but to add to its own story.

>>385743875
Isn't that in the switch? Such an underrated game. It should've gotten more attention along with the other releases

>>385753439
Most of 4LS were ambivalent or against H scenes.

>>385751582
yeah, mark of the ninja was really good.

>>385741515
>be inspired by a dnd campaign you play
>make mediocre game
>sells enough to be worth it

>make a sequel
>try to go for a huge audience
>put all the effort into tech, don't even attempt to make a good game at all
>make the blandest thing possible and hope BIG WORLD and TITTIES sell
>budget absolutely wasted, barely recoups sales

>make random ass low effort spinoff to try to generate funds
>generate small amount of funds
>doesn't succeed

>people still don't care about your franchise
>keep going
>the kids these days want voice acting
>give them voice acting
>the kids, they don't care
>the attempts at mass appeal have failed AGAIN

>feel like giving up
>give up
>but somehow receive funding
>still have given up though, sick of chasing an audience, want to go out with something to be proud of
>add a snarky mouthpiece npc in the game that bitches about how people didn't care about the features you worked hard on in previous games but didn't wind up showing you success
>make what you believe is your final game
>make a game for your legacy, your children, something you can tell them about, rather than make a legacy based on selling to children
>it's morrowind

>>385753087
I never said I didn't like Ghost Recon or the other Ubisoft games. When I want to unwind and feel some false sense of accomplishment I play those types of games. Because at the end of the day, they have mastered the way to make a gamer feel in control and having an impact, not out of passion, but because people will dish out money to play something that will make them feel good.

I honestly have no idea if Witcher was made with passion or not. I haven't looked at interviews with the devs or anything, but I feel like it does. It's subject matter is incredibly elaborate, spanning from racism to ideologies. But it's not just that, it's how it was executed and the feeling it leaves players. It makes you entertain ideas you wouldn't normally, and presents it in variety and unbiased. As if the game wanted to send a message
I don't think you can have a game do that without being made with passion.

Sure, Ghost Recon Wildlands had times when it would question whether or not those working for the cartel were evil. But it didn't flesh it out, leaving it mostly to collectibles scattered around the map. Maybe Ubi had the right intentions, but telling from the finished product, they decided to take the safe route. I mean they do have tons of other games to worry about and collect revenue.

>>385751225
>harvest moon had combat
Rune Factory

>an extensive collectible system
Picking shit up from the floor is not extensive.

>multiple production chains
Only valid point.

>homosexual relationships
You realise how extremely this is to add, right? In fact it's even easier than only allowing straight relationships because you wouldn't have to do a check on the character's gender to determine eligibility.

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Even if you're a retard who decided to feel actually hatred towards a videogame JUST because of a minority of the fanbase that you decided you disliked, you can't argue that this was a passionate as fuck project.

Or I guess you could, but you'd be wrong.

>>385742404
>let's make harvest moon, but for people who think they're smart for not buying a console

>>385756237
>let's make harvest moon, but for people who are smart for not buying a console
ftfy

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>>385751434
He still had the balls to change the Mandalorian basilisk war droid design just because he thought it looked dumb

When is the fucking switch release? I pirated it ages ago on pc but I wanna get it on switch and start over

>>385751225
>homosexual relationships is a selling point
Helloreddit

>>385756043
>no hard mode
It looked like he just quit after he got his paycheck. Not very passionate if it's true. Why did he not do this?

>>385743194
RIP

there is a lot to do in wildlands (as in people to kill/interrogate) once you get it going

and i guess it's pretty realistic that there isn't much else in the world except tags to supply or intel to gather, it's not like it takes place in a fantasy world. speaking of which, i recently started playing ff15 and the world of that game is just shockingly empty.

there are literally miles and miles of emptiness, except the occasional battle and a tiny item to pick up here and there. i'm not very far in so i don't know how if it gets better but man, they could have put more into this thing.

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Rayman Origins was a game like that. They put a shitton of effort into it and it sold great, but Ubisoft never believed it would do well so they left Ancel and the dev team with a hands-off dev process.
Then Origins actually was successful and the jews at ubisoft smelled the shekels, so they meddled with Legends, enforced DRM and uplay for zero reason and cut corners everywhere. As a result Legends doesn't even have a post-game reward level like land of the livid dead in origins.

I fucking despise ubisoft. They even, by pure accident, happened to create Siege which has huge potential but they're squandering it because they're retarded.

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>>385757302
>not rolling a lesbian every time
what are you, gay?

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>no Mother 3
It's Passion: the video game.

>>385758225
I fucking love that game

>>385741630
Yeah I do realize it and thats why I'm happy it's on pc. Good on them for cloning a game series/concept we never see in the west outside of bullshit "Pay or Wait" Facebook games and smartphone apps.

>>385758449
More like
Shit Gameplay: The videogame

>>385756043
ONE
THOUSAND
CASES

>>385758692
More like
Guaranteed (You)s: The post

>>385757379
>Hurr dude No hard mode

Yes; because everygame needs to have selectable diffculty or NG+ intense challenge modes

I swear, players these days have gotten exposed by the likes of fucking Crash Bandicoot of all places when it comes to default difficulty either being to easy or too difficult.

>>385758449
Your Mother is my passion

>>385758962
Then don't leave in a literal half finished hard mode if it didn't need it

>>385752890
>crapawa shitjo is not a game
ahh the memories

>>385758882
That game has the shittiest and most generic gameplay of the realm of RPGs.
It's the core element of a videogame being shit what we are talking here, not secondary elements like graphics and sound.

People only like it because nostalgia.
How every Mother thread goes:
>name a comfier place than X :)

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>>385758323
>Playing as a woman and calling other people gay.

>>385753626
>underrated

It sold through multiple nintendo platforms...each one always adding something new.
Even made it 3d esque if I recall.

>>385759227
It literally doesn't.

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>>385759264
>I'm straight because I prefer to stare at a man's ass instead!

>>385755661
>Rune Factory
is not Harvest Moon, but a spinoff. And if you're looking for a farming game, it is objectively worse than Harvest Moon, because the farming is simplified even more because they have to fit so many mechanics together.

>>385758165
I guess, if realism is what they were aiming for.
But my problem with ubisoft is how collectibles and "pointless" side missions are scattered all over their open world (Pointless as no real substance of its own; probably helps XP points tho) and that's the main gist of a lot of their games. the only thing they really change up between them are the aspects of traversing (parkour, car, sabretooth, helicopter) and fighting
To be honest tho, they can be fun