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ITT: Video games /v/ pretends to hate for internet cred

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ITT: Video games /v/ pretends to hate for internet cred
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>if you like what I dislike, you definitely only want reddit points.
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>muh ugly 3D models(even though SFIV was infinitely more butt-ugly)
>muh poor release(even though vanilla SFIV was also shit)
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>>385723472
doing the opposite of reddit doesn't make you cool, op. SFV is just a bad game. play Tekken, Blazblue, Guilty Gear, or UNIEL instead
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>>385723703
Disregard that, I suck cocks.
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What the fuck is up with all the SFV shill threads lately? Since a little before EVO they've popped up.
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If /v/ is contrarian central and SFV is universally hated outside of /v/. Wouldn't /v/ like SFV then, MR. Contrarian?
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>>385723780
>play these dead games instead
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>>385723865

Tekken has more players
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>>385723865
>only do what's popular, unless it'd popular on reddit
what a pathetic piece of shit
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>>385723472
I don't think /v/ pretends to hate on SFV for internet cred, but i do agree that SFV gets more hate than it deserve
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>>385723776

Vanilla SF4 was so shit it revived fighting games.
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>>385723936
>>385723703
>>385723780
Why do you keep bringing up reddit? Is it because we are well aware most of SFV hate "campaign" comes for a certain clique of people?
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>>385724083

r/kappa hates SFV with a passion
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The girls aren't cute to be honest. But they weren't cute in SV4 either.
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>>385724083
r/kappa is the capcom shill bogeyman
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>>385723472
>/v/
More like literally everyone that isn't paid to play it.
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>>385723472
how am i pretending?

it doesn't have my favorite in it, dan, so i am not interested in buying it
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Is Abigail /ourguy/?
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>>385723472
I have the game and I can say that SFV is the worst Fighting game I own. Revelator/2 is better in any single thing.
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>you can't ever dislike something genuinely, you just want to "fit in"
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>>385724471
no.
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>>385723472
>>385723776
>>385723865
I've seen a lot of hate for sf5 regardless of the location, especially offline at major and local tournaments.

It's not a meme, people are very disappointed by it.

I still play, a lot, but I've found tekken 7 to be a better game. Has a lot of players right now and the pro tour is a good sign for it too.
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>>385724515
I sorta agree but I also feel like the best fighting game is the one with the most people playing it. Rev/2 is cool but will never be big enough to really enjoy socially like I can do with street fighter
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>>385723472
I fucking wish.

I want to love this game. I really do. I still hope that Capcom will snap out of it and get their shit together.

I'm playing GG now, and it's super fun, but SF's core mechanics will always be my favorite. Capcom's just so fucking retarded with everything.

I don't even feel anger or hate anymore. I'm tired of being angry.
I'm just sad now. And disappointed.
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>>385724601
I personally enjoy SFV but if I had to play a different game, T7 would be the one
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>>385724571
>you can't ever dislike girls genuinely, you just want to "penetrate"
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>>385724083
Its literally r/kappa projecting.
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>>385724515
you tell em!
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>>385723472
Agreed, how could anyone dislike this amazing game! (people who actually aren't) Haters will be left behind!

https://twitter.com/natsu_freedom_g/status/773455244030316545
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>>385725027
It is though, ESPECIALLY from a casual's perspective like that guy.
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>>385723862
Nah /v/ is not contrarian they just hate everything, popular or not, good or not
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>>385725145
Still, everybody recommends GG, but then nobody actually fucking plays it.
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>>385725145
from a casual perspective you get a game with an ebin animu movie and after that you're left with a game thats really hard to play with a tiny community where everybody shits on you hard.
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>>385725312
I've never had a problem with finding lobbies. nobody plays Ranked, but player lobbies are always active
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>>385725312
The vast majority of people who buy any fighting game don't play it for more than a few hours. Unless you've got another image showing this guy has more hours in SFV you don't really have a point.

>>385725316
GG has more single player content which is what casuals actually care about. It's also a chain game so it's easy to mash through a few runs of the arcade mode. Casuals don't play online.
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>>385723776
>muh ugly 3D models(even though SFIV was infinitely more butt-ugly)
You make a good point. Though I'd say marginally instead of infinitely.

>muh poor release(even though vanilla SFIV was also shit)
Now you fucked up. Vanilla SFIV was leaps and bounds a better release than SFV was. It's a better release than even current state SFV is.
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>>385725494
>Casuals don't play online.
lmao
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>>385725532
>It's a better release than even current state SFV is.
I dont believe you play fighting games.
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>>385725027
Well, I can't say how much hours I have in Xrd because I play in PS4 but is at least 40 hours, where SFV I have 5-7 hours.
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but i wanted to like sfv
it's *generally* less bullshitty than sfiv
i mean yeah it has some things that are retarded
but it's boring
but it was supposed to be karin's grand return and they can't even not fuck that up
i want them to redesign the game mechanics and stop taking story ideas from udon
udon are terribler writers than the standard fg storywriter
that is saying a lot
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Gears of War and most other "dudebro" games. Some of them are genuinely bad like some of the newer CoD games but a lot of them are great.

Also Gears 4 is still one of the best looking PC games and horde mode is GOAT with friends.
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>>385725640
>40 hours
did you buy that game last week or what?
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i like SFV because Laura is in it. no other fighting game has her so they are all shit by comparison.
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>>385725710
he's one of those fighting game casuals, he plays one hour a week and that's it
meanwhile real fg nigs play it full time 40+ hrs a week without pay
man i get tired of playing short ass sets vs people on /v/, like come on, stick around for more than 2-3 matches a week assholes, maybe if you did that you'd lose less
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>>385725863
>/v/
>playing video games
>having an interesting opinion about video games
>knowing something about video games
:^(
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75 hours in it
i dont hate it but i certianly dont like it
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>>385723865
>tekken
>dead
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>>385725863
Funny enough a member of the Guilty Gear community made a video about that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VAOnY91Dtk

Its absolutely not surprising to me, big parts of the people who talk about the game dont actually play it at all. Like I dont want to call that guy who only put 40 hours into the game a part of the GG community.
Either they jerk the game off for being so hardcore or they shit on other games.
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>>385725710
I bought both Revelator/2 and SFV at day one and like >>385725863 said, I'm mostly casual with the game, because I don't have so much time.
Just yesterday, my cousin and I played Rev2 2 hours just doing IK.
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>>385726296
I think its pretty telling that a guy who hasnt put any significant amount of time into a fighting game goes around advertising their shit everywhere.

https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/filename/1468878935918.webm/

Its literally /v/ in a nutshell.
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>>385726237
this.
i play a lot of Guilty Gear and I'm glad it's finally getting some of the attention it deserves, but I wish it wouldn't get overhyped by casuals who say it's the only game worth playing. hell, i really want SFV to be a good game because it would help the whole fighting game community
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>>385726237
>5 matches
goddamn that's a short set
i mean if you're busy as shit i can understand that you only have so much time but don't act like you're a big part of any community or that you're a hardcore player or that you totally support the game when you play so little
it's why i frown on most waifufags

if you're gonna be a waifufag at least be like that one guy who played the fuck out of petra in arcana heart 3, that dude draws doujins of her and he won a tourney with her
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>>385726654
honestly everybody should be able to plan in at least one FT10 a day.
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>>385724591


you mad because you cant zone anymore? you actually have to work to win do you scrub?
thats why daigo aint shit anymore because his fireball spamming is done for
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>>385726992
>what is Abudget cup 2017 ?
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>>385726992
naw, I just play better fighting games
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>>385726927
some guy i was playing with in a game, he thanked me for playing like many hours with him consecutively because he had never done that before
i told him that's just a routine for me, i play long fucking sets, and i spend hours
and it wasn't just the same characters, i switched a lot, and he switched around too
i think it's important if you want to get the most out of fighting games
ft10 would be a good idea, but most people on the internet, especially here, won't even play that long if at all and it's sad for fighting games
and yet too many people will at the same time claim how [game x] has such great waifus
people did this with darkstalkers
know what i did in the arcades? played by myself all the time on darkstalkers, beating pyron everytime because nobody challenged me

i laugh everytime i see people "support" guilty gear, and i don't even play gg myself but i'm sure most people who say that don't, either
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>>385727249
honestly, this is one of the things I like best about GG. the lobbies allow for a bunch of rematches. also, the arcade aesthetic in the lobbies is great.
God, I wish we could have a new Darkstalkers game. I'd drop every other game for it
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>>385727249
A FT10 is literally nothing, that takes about as much as one round in some shitty moba or one set of CS.


And yeah, it just makes real dedicated GG players (who definitely exist) look like shit.

How can I take their "community" seriously when the majority of their output amounts to a wet fart with nothing behind it?
I literally cannot take opinions on fighting games online seriously anymore.
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>>385723780

>Tekken

>Akuma, supers

Hey cool, two things that have been in SF for decades now. Did they fix the whole 3d thing yet?

>Blazblue

>Anime garbage with waifus as the only draw, stuffed full of needless mechanics that make it a bore to learn

Mai's a guy.

>Guilty Gear

>Every character is a gimmick. So learn 24 other unique match-ups based on gimmicks. Also danger time SUCH A FUN MECHANIC.

>UNIEL

Who?


You left out the best game (pic related) of all for 3d and anime trash. You're pathetic.
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>>385727186
>daigo lost to a fat spic who was suing laura. poor bastard could not spam not one fireball
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>>385728261
*using
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>>385727617
>A FT10 is literally nothing
considering the sessions i play, you're right, and i still would most likely call people out for doing just a drop in the bucket set like that, but babysteps in any case

this guy is in the above youtube link is right, people spend more time watching videos and "chinstroking" i like that term, i'm gonna use it too than they do actually playing the game, it's theorycrafting at best and not putting anything into practice and then they just continue to watch videos and they just go *chinstrokes* and stare at the monitor passively watching a lot but taking in nothing and getting nothing out of it in the end but a bunch of theory they'll still panic about doing in actual practice

that actual anxiety of doing things right the first time in actual practice is what people unconsciously get scared of playing for, because they'll most likely lose because of trying to do it and go "FUCK THAT DOESN'T WORK I QUIT"

oh yeah and it takes effort to even try it, oh god effort what a concept

my main complaint in the end is, don't pretend to support a fighting game if you don't play it often enough to have a say about it

like i play kofxiv a lot and i "waifufag" sylvie but i actually use her and practice her in game and vs people with her

most people who do that with angel, and this is save for the one guy i play against on /vg/ who actually uses her, are irritating to deal with because all they'll do is post pictures of her and talk about how kof has top tier fappable waifus but then they'll never play the game for maybe more than 20 minutes and then go back to fapping or picdumps like "oh, i support kof!" no you don't
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>>385723472
Nah fuck you. I was hyped as fuck when SFV was being built up as the return of SF to its fundamental roots and a footsies game. Instead we got a game where 90% of matches are just risk reward for a CC , tons of jumping even at high level and because of the lack of defensive tools basic mixups are godlike because you have to make guess on them.

I love Bison in SFV but the game itself is shit. Hope that leak about changes they'd make in a SSFV is real because otherwise fuck it. GGXrd/KOF/Tekken would still be better but id love to play SF again but its not worth it in that shit show state.
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>>385728320
The whole angel situation is hilarious. Character is so fucking hard to play so all the waifuniggers who lust over her get exposed.

Waifu designs should always be hardest to play.

>>385728535
>instead we got a game where 90% of matches are just risk reward for a CC
I dont think you play fighting games.
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>>385728121
>Every GG character is a gimmick
Explain what a gimmick means to you since most of the cast in GG can play solid neutral and has a multitude of tools
>Danger time
The mechanic that only gets triggered once every 100 years and people admittedly hate.

Don't bash GG when you don't play it. You have no fucking idea what the game plays like if you call it gimmicky. I appreciate KOF love though since after GG KOF is my second favorite.
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>>385723834
it is the same 5 guys that like sf5 and use /v/ as their personal chat for matches.
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>>385726431
Jesus Christ
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>>385728602
Risk reward for counter hits is a thing. CCs are a terrible mechanic you even have people like Gamerbee saying if they disappeared the game would be 10x better defensively. Its literally babiest first chance to land a combo in a game where links are already close to mashable.

No seriously CCs were a awful idea and always will be. They really don't offer any depth and just make would would require amazing reactions super easy for anyone. Also some characters who can just throw out CC in neutral aka Balrog Urien etc and dash up into a full 30% or more confirm if it hits a stray normal is retarded.
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>>385728681
>Explain what a gimmick means to you since most of the cast in GG can play solid neutral and has a multitude of tools
he probably means blazblue
for the little time i have put into gg i can still tell that blazblue's drives != whatever is in gg
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>>385728895
>Drives in GG
There are no drive mechanics in GG so i guess that little time just amounted to you being able to spread false information.
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>>385729056
i think your hilarious reading ability is what is your downfall as i never ever with my language suggested that gg has drives

linguistics and understanding an comprehending what is said is important
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>>385728836
Gamerbee is a fucking bitch and he cries always no matter what.
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>>385728681

Except I do play it and find it to be the most boring game out on the market currently. Looks nice but every character has stupid specific shit about not only themselves but things they can only do to certain other characters (combo specificity) and that stacked with danger time, clash, and the S+HS "parry" makes the game a fucking mess.

Yeah it's fun for spergs so japs and weebs love it but the scene is so dead anywhere else because the 'tism of the average non-jap just isn't enough to get into the fuck-fest that is current GG. You take a look at it and think "Oh cool, this looks fun. The characters look neat" and then you pop the cap off of it and look into all the garbage knowledge you need to amass to be even remotely good at the game and realize fuck me I just wasted 40 bucks on this game.

So no, I definitely play it enough to know I find it one of the most lackluster FG's out there which is really saying something about its system is KOF looking like a trainwreck turned out to be a more fun game.
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>>385729567

*if KOF looking like a trainwreck
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The hate on sfv is largely undeserved
Like, I get the game has legit flaws but most people shit on non-issues or blow stuff out of proportions
Especially since those same people shitting on the game are mostly bronze at best and have no idea what the heck they're talking about

Just jump into any SFV video on youtube with a decent view count: every one of them has at least a few top comments with
>hurr sfv is shit SF*insert number here* is so much better
and 200 likes

It became a meme, which is sad because if people actually criticized the game for its flaws and not to get likes and fit in, maybe we'd see capcom try to fix them
Criticism is good, and the community should criticize the games they like, but meme hate is not constructive
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>SFV is shit and random and that is why new players consistently beat veterans.

Weird logic.
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>>385729857
Veterans are still good at the game.
What do you think Tokido is?
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>>385729056

Here, I'll help you out.

The notation "!=" means something does NOT equal that thing. It's basically a head-up-your-own-ass way of saying two things are not equivalent and so he is basically agreeing with you.

He's saying GG has no drive equivalent.
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>>385729802
>those same people shitting on the game are mostly bronze at best and have no idea what the heck they're talking about
No matter what rank in-game someone is you drones still wont accept it either way.
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>>385730065

>implying you need a medal in eating shit to be an authority on shit-eating
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>>385730065
t.bronzie
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>>385730218
plat actually
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>>385728836
>all the pro players who can't adapt to the new game are whining about the game mechanics

in the community that is called your average run of the mill table salt
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>>385730252
lmao
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>>385730252
post cfn
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>>385730178
that is correct. I would not take advice on shit eating from some one who is terrible at it. Same applies for everything else in life
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>>385726237
well, this is all true right here.

in my region people only play it at night and rarely at weekends so getting matches is already and i don't have either the time nor the privacy to get good. I always have shit to do and my family constantly bothers me all the time here so trying to get good at GG or any other fighting game is honestly a fucking hassle. I don't even have time to get good at SF5 and to know the matchups.

Only game i ever had time to get gud was USF4 and only because i was at japan at the time and a friend of mine also played the game. I was even able to take on some japs at the arcades. It was some good times but only because i had the time to go to arcades and play around 2 hours of USF4 a day.

I've tried a bunch of other games but the fanbase is either dead or non existent and having to go out of my way every time i want a match when i have so little time is honestly fucking awful. To this day i was never able to truly get good at GG and i get blown the fuck out every time and it is depressing as hell. SInce i can't learn and I'm not having fun than it is much better to just not play it or play something else.

I even wanted to get mvc:i or the new dbz game but lets face it, the exactly same thing will happen.

Now i just play some single player games or TF2 at late night when no one can bother me.
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>>385730389

>all this pride taken in eating shit

Pathetic.
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>>385730307
Stiff_Steve
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>>385729802
>The hate on sfv is largely undeserved

it was 60 bucks for 16 characters at launch
graphics are incredibly uneven - some characters look amazing (Chun, Cammy) and others look awful (Ken, Mika)
Disappointing roster
Far too rushdown oriented, with the exception of Guile who is just irritating to play against
NETCODE IS TERRIBLE. HORRID. Good fucking god I've spent so much goddamn time waiting for matches as opposed to playing the damn game at this point.
You get BIG rewards for making little risk.
Characters don't feel as fluid and intuitive, you're basically locked into a flowchart if you want to win

I do like aspects of the game, Akuma is super fun and I prefer V-trigger/V-skill over Focus and Ultras.
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>>385730394
I dont think its terrible to play fighting games with a more casual approach, I just dont like it when those people talk big.
Or when those people wonder why they stay bad.
First part is much worse though.

People talk so much shit but are absolutely fucking garbage at their own game they play, its disgusting.

Its like that old 4chan lurk more shit. Show some fucking humility and dont talk about stuff you have no clue about.
Assholes try to posture as those hardpros but dont want to put the required work in.
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>>385730771
>Characters don't feel as fluid and intuitive, you're basically locked into a flowchart if you want to win
This is why you're bronze.
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>>385730568
I wanted to play you but your name sounds homosexual
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>>385731309

of course i'm bronze i stopped playing over a year ago
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>>385731528
You wouldn't play me either way fag.
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>>385731636
yea ok bronzie
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>>385731546
bronze opinions arent worth a shit.
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>>385731107
>I don't think its terrible to play fighting games with a more casual approach
In my case i just really can't play GG in a more casual approach because no one in my region are casuals. I know because i've been playing since SIGN and i always get my shit wrecked phenomenally don't matter how much i play them.

They are just at a level that i can't reach without the time. Time that i'll never have due to how my life is so it is simply a impossible mountain to climb.

It honestly makes me regret ever getting into fighting games because after i moved back i spent a lot of time playing other games and trying to get good but it wasn't time enough, so it was all wasted time.
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>>385724591
Yes.
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>>385731657
im plat though
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>>385730394
>in my region people only play it at night and rarely at weekends
the two very days people have time off to do something fun they don't do it, yet on worknights people do shit? what the fuck
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>>385724083
People are getting so sick of Kappa hating sfv it is due for a revival in popularity.
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>I'm going to say the amazing new 3D Mario looks shitty for shock value hehe please reply
>wow look at this irrelevant part of the level, isn't it so barren and empty? wow I'd expect to see more in a forest than trees wtf
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>>385731770
i find that weird to put i guess around here people really like to spend the night with friend or somewhere else away from home. it is not uncommon mate, i do find weird that during the middle of the day there is almost no rooms in my region.
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>>385731770

its more like people tend to be too exhausted from work to put their mind towards fighting vidya
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>>385731972
so i ask again, they actually do fightan during weekdays, the nights of days that they work, but don't actually do anything for it during their break periods where they're NOT working that day?
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>>385723472
>garbage gameplay dumbed down so hard, any retard can actually be good at it
>removed a majority of moves so everyone literally plays the same
>the existence of the v system
>a majority of Hitboxes don't make sense (like Zangief able to air throw you off a whiff half way across the screen, impossible to whiff punish with multiple characters, able to grab people even if they're above ground like Kolin's grab)
>fuck ugly design
>input lag is still trash, making most things unreactable
you can easily tell who has never played a fighting game in their life entirely by what they think of V
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>>385732186
>get home from work
>play a couple of hours of games

>go out at the weekend
>don't spend any time playing games unless I am playing games on a couch with my friends

That's how my week usually goes.
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dropped SF for Xrd, never been happier.
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Every Capcom fighter that isn't SF or Marvel.
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>>385732960

I'm the only person on this board who has even played those games.
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>>385733056
aren't you a special snowflake
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>>385731930
just out of interest, what part of the world are you from?
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>>385732960
i've played cyberbots, ds, rival schools and powerstone, that's about it
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>>385731676
Well in your case going for some other games might be healthier, like Tekken or SF, but generally I dont have too much of a terrible time when I get stomped in some older Fightcade games against some veterans.

Dunno.
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>>385733192
south america. Can't even find people from my region on GG threads around here and i get at least 14f of delay playing agaisnt anyone from other regions or some one with shitty internet connection.

>>385732960
i have a copy of star gladiator but i only played it once.

>>385733285
i tried playing SF3 in fightcade together with KOF on the side,same thing happened. i improved a little but quit after playing a ryu that double perfected me 3 times after parrying all my moves. I was playing Remmy btw.
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>>385732960
I played some Power Stone recently and its pretty meh actually.

But seriously, people dont pretend to hate those games, they dont even know most of them. Only Darkstalkers gets fellated all day. Cool game, but nobodys actually playing it.
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>>385733056
fuck off, you're not the only oldfag here.
goddamn I miss PowerStone
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>>385732960

People don't actually enjoy/play Dark Stalkers. They just like the characters.
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>>385733513
>>385733652
There was a 90 person tournament for Darkstalkers earlier this year in the goddamn midwest of all places. People play it.
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>>385723472
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>>385723472
This shitty game that sold like garbage and destroyed the franchise sure is getting shilled a lot here lately.
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>>385733792
look, thats cool, but with that sort of online praise you see youd expect gigantic fightcade lobbies all day.
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>>385733882
>implying capcom has the money to hire shills
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>>385732432
>buzzwords buzzwords

So I guess you never played fighting games huh
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>>385733964
Companies shill here instead of having an advertising budget.
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Abigail is literal chemo and what SF is all about

If you dont like it fuck off to facebook or reddit
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>>385734084
anon shilling on 4chan seems like an unlikely thing
I can believe indie devs that actually browse 4chan and make threads about their game
but if a big company wants to shill a game they'd do that on reddit probably
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>>385732432
>input lag is still trash, making most things unreactable
Tekken 7 has even more input lag and I see you people praising that garbage like it was the fucking Jesus of fgs
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>>385734437
>what SF is all about

What is SF all about, bro?
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>>385734662
probably he means actual street fighters
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>>385734662
Wacky fun fuck huge characters

Ed and SFV Colin are more like KoF, Tekken, FF rejects.
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>>385734517
because the fastest move in Tekken 7 is 10 frames or higher you fucking retarded negro
SFV has moves that are 3 and 4 frames fast
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>>385734920
So it casual garbage then
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>>385734836

there are like 4 'wacky fun fuck huge characters' zangief, honda, hugo and hawk
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>>385729567
late but
>the game has too much mechanics therefore it's bad
>if it requires effort it's for spergs
just don't play you dumb bitch
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>>385735876

I tried it out and gave it my honest opinion which is doing more for people wondering about whether or not to get into the game than all your self-fellating "GIT GUD SON" has done this whole thread.

The game has a super high learning curve which will probably make it unfun to most people. It's got a patch-work of clashing systems that do little to remove the obvious power differences some characters have right out the gate.

I've successfully kept 5 people I know from buying this garbage. That's like saving my friends 300+ dollars. Shame I couldn't save myself that cash but I had to play it enough to know I hated it and steams cuts off refunds after 2 hours. The best thing I can do for the FGC is ensure this game stays niche and mostly dead outside Japan.
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>>385734920
I want to beat up who parrots this retarded shit.
Kill yourself.
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>>385736518
I totally agree with this. Except I don't feel a need to be such a whiny cunt who thinks he's the white knight of the fighting game community. Why do you give a shit if people play GG or any other game? fucking underage brats
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>>385725027
What if he has Rev2 on console anon
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>>385729857
I don't even get what point you're making. There definitely are silly upsets where considerably new players get wins from veterans with decades of experience all over the place in SFV and I don't feel that's a good thing at all.
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>>385738669
>Why do you give a shit if people play GG or any other game?

Not him but he did mention it was his friends so he at least cares about them and know them enough to predict they won't spend enough time to get good at it and frustrate themselves.

I do that too.
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>>385726654
Stop reminding me that no one who has funded the kickstarter will actually play Six Stars.

Then again I have literally not played LM at all so I guess I'm the faggot.
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>>385738669

The laughing kitty was supposed to be an indicator that the post was MOSTLY a joke.

I mean GG XRD Rev 2 is not great- that part is not a joke. It's really just an okay fighter. People treating it at the second coming of fighters when it's so mechanically fucked just need to be taken down a peg or two in my opinion.

At least don't try to rope other poor saps who are barely into fighters with nebulous promises of "fun" when it's gonna be nothing but being overwhelmed with mechanics that are neither intuitive (S + HS) or fun to experience (Danger Time) while you're getting your ass beat by nips and weebs who do nothing but look at frame data all day.

I'm not actually part of a concentrated campaign to keep it out of the FGC though, that part was a joke.
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>>385739060
yeah, I totally understand and respect giving advice to friends.
But then he said "the best thing I can do for the FGC is ensure this game stays niche" as if it's his mission to go on some anti-GG crusade, which is pretty pathetic
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>>385724601
my entire local tournament scene dropped sfv for tekken and guilty gear and its the same in scenes across the country. even the most sf centric events are struggling to attract players anymore. the game is just shit and unhype and nobody wants to play it anymore.
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>>385723472
OP the whole world hates that game.
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>>385739571
Why would anyone play Tekken because they're unhappy with SFV, that solves practically nothing
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>>385739857
because they think its a better game and find it fun? i dont really play it much myself. im more focused on gg.
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>>385728320
If we're going to arbitrarily decide who has the right to comment on any game I am defining it as; top 8 evo
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>>385735519
>honda
>huge
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>>385739296
>blitz shield isn't intuitive
Just because you're retarded doesn't mean it's bad.
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>>385723472
>stubby normal slow walkspeed no defensive options hold this 5 medium punch blockstring high input lag let's all jump, dash, and throw out CC normals Fighter V isn't bad
It's bad. It's half a fighting game even when you disregard the lack of single player content. It's technically and mechanically barren. I mean you can like it if you're stupid and you don't like training mode I guess.
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>>385739208
i tried to learn ah3 myself but after losing, i never got anything out of it
usually i feel like i learned something but all i did was like "WTF JUST HAPPENED TO ME AND WHY" and it was just me yelling out into the wind at this point
so i just dropped it
gl to them and their ks but i can't really support it if i can't get into the game like that
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>>385741407

Parry in 3s was a better system for that. It was simple and intuitive and didn't conflict with anything else. Meanwhile GG has "hold any two buttons EXCEPT S + HS to negate chip" and then separately "HOLD S + HS to do this thing which is not very well explained in its practicality and usefulness and you will probably forget to do it all the time anyway".

It's another pointless trinket added on to the keychain of horrible mechanics the game already has holding it back. Sure of course you understand it right off the bat because you've probably been playing fighters for years. I understood it too once I jacked with it a bit but trying to explain that to a fresh noob is just going to turn them off. It's neither intuitive nor interesting to use for 99% of the population.

This is what's so retarded about anime players. They've wasted their lives learning these games full of pointless mechanics and then expect everybody else to just pick it up like they did when their autism is the only reason they were able to get into anime fighters in the first place.

GG is dead to normies- which is probably good for the meta but lol at the game ever getting the recognition of even a trainwreck like SFV.
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>>385741407
I dont think you understand what intuitive means.
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>>385723472
JIVE
LOBBY
WHERE
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>>385739571
that doesnt truly add up when you look at tournament numbers across america.
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>>385741657
nice kappa post
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>>385743019
3s's parry system ruined the game and FD isn't pointless. It's an extremely important defensive mechanic. why even spend your time talking so much shit about a game you clearly don't understand? the mechanics aren't tacked on. they're there to diversify options in meter usage and encourage player creativity.
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>>385743368
Probably because big american majors bring out the more casuals. People who go to locals regularly are the most hardcore players so they're way more discerning.
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>>385743523


>parry destroyed 3s

Only for babies. Parry has clear cut counters (throw if you think they're going to parry or throw in more complex inputs for them to parry) and its execution makes sense (knock the opponent's attack aside with my own offensive gesture- that being moving toward them).

FD is fucking dumb because the characters slide in the game. So you've always gotta make sure to FD to keep your character from sliding into an attack. Okay that's always pretty fucking dumb.

On top of that you add in blitz shield (abbreviated as BS- appropriately so) which takes TWO OTHER buttons and has to be held and released with specific timing but oh hey the opponent can BS you back so your read meant nothing.

On TOP OF THAT they add in burst (TWO MORE BUTTONS) because anime fighters are busted by design and so they need burst mechanics to act as a hard stop to infinites and unbreakable offense.

GG is not a bad game but it's merely okay especially for entry-level players. I've played enough GG to see that the mechanics are mindlessly tacked on to account for the gross difference in character viability. They obviously aren't very well thought out characters in terms of play-styles so yeah the game needs a universal combo-breaker, dumb volley-ball like parry mechanic, and FD. It wouldn't be fair otherwise- well it'd be even less fair than it is now.
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>>385743368
What are you talking about?

Besides EVO, tournament numbers have been dropping all year.
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>>385743413
damn you got me, I'll reinstall today.
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>>385744038
lol i dont get what's so bad about pressing 2 buttons. honestly im tempted to recommend guilty to every new fighting game player just for the tutorials alone.

the problem with 3s's parries isn't their execution it's that they destroy character variety and dumb down the mindgames to the most braindead and lazy level possible.
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When considering the whole series it's easy to see why it's one of the most infamously repetitive and uninspired game series ever. But playing a single game in the series, most of them really aren't bad. I'm not gonna lie, I really enjoyed the Black Ops trilogy
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I'm curious about people who play fighting games casually.
http://www.strawpoll.me/13582075
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>>385744682

>generic blanket statement about 3s and parries "destroying the game"

Yawn. Coop cup is one of the more exciting tournaments that happens and it's got great character variety and doesn't just go "braindead" or whatever else the fuck you claim. You don't parry a dudley the same way you do a chun or a yun or a ken. You don't ALWAYS parry or else you get meatied and thrown. 3s is nuanced in timing but its mechanics make sense. Parrying makes sense and when your parry loses you immediately know it's because you were read or you mistimed it.

Standing around with my thumb up my holding two button down to "wait" for my opponent's attack (which he can throw back at me) simply doesn't flow as well to the average FG player and makes the game feel less like a fighting game and more like a pong simulator. Which is what you keep missing. I've never touted "complexity" as a necessity for good fightan. 3s is extremely simple. It's even pretty easy to have a newb explain a parry when they first see. Try having a new tell me what the fuck is going on during a blitz shield? They aren't gonna know because it's just one more dumb mechanic lazily tacked on in a game full of dumb mechanics.

FD to end slide is stupid.
BS is intuitive.
Danger time is the worst offender. I don't care if it only happens once a game or whatever. If that shit happened in any other fighter people would go fucking insane over it. A imposed section of time where the properties of the moves completely change? How WACKY!


Nah actually it's just annoying as fuck and not fun to experience at all.
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>>385723472
But I honest to God hate it.
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