Umihara Kawase

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Also, please post webms if you have any.

>>385719254
I bet nobody can name a better trilogy than the Umihara Kawase games.

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>>385719314
Even as the person who made the thread, I'm trying my best to come up with a better trilogy, and I've got nothing.

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>>385719398

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>>385719463
And that's unfortunately all I have for webms.

it looks so boring
watching Arino playing it was fun tho

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>>385719301
Don't have many webms, but I do got a pretty impressive amount of pictures of her

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>>385719637
It's intense as fuck, you should try it sometime.

>>385719663
Please do share. I've never seen that gif before.

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>>385719732
Hopefully there will be a girth of new fanart with the fighting game coming out.

And I really hope the fighting game is fun, too. Because being able to play as Umihara throwing people around with the fishing line is great.

What's the best version of Shun?

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>>385719732
https://imgur.com/a/8h2R2
Here are some, it keeps refusing to upload a lot of pictures for some reason, and I am in the middle of repairing my pc, so I don't have much time to dillydally

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>>385720179
First time I've seen a good few of these, thank you.

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>>385720179

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The new fighting game seems neat.

>tfw i genuinely don't like how oversized her boobs got in the sequel
growth to show a character aging is cool and all but umihara is not nearly as cute in the sequels with how overboard they go with it

I'm considering getting the Vita port, how is it?

>>385721126
yandere umihara.
yes.

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>>385719663
I have a higher res version of this gif. May as well share it.

>>385721126
>tfw pixel went with playism for kero blaster so we won't get to see kaeru fight umihara or curly

>>385721281
I've played the version of that (Yumi's Odd Odyssey) on 3DS and it's alright.

>>385721248
You have a strange definition of "oversized". They're not THAT big in any of the games or official art (though they are big). You sure you just haven't been looking at too much fanart?

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>>385721860
nigga they're pretty ridiculous

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>>385721248
I used to agree with you, but I grew to love stacked Umi.

>>385721281
The vita port is pretty much perfect. Great way to play the SNES game, too.

>>385721786
The 3DS game is completely different, and quite honestly unplayable compared to the vita and steam versions. I used to think Sayonara was a massive disappointment for the series because I played the 3DS game when it first came out, but the vita version really does change everything.

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>>385721963
I think this is the one picture of official art that I don't like of Umihara.

I used to question why they even bothered using it, until I realized it was a reference to one of Kondo's doujin magazines from the 90s.

I'm not particularly a fan of this version of the picture, either, but I think it's definitely nicer than the new one.

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>>385721963
I honestly think the game would be more popular if they just used this for the cover.

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>>385721281
The vita is a great dedicated Umihara machine.

>>385719527
Man, the skill ceiling on these is high as fuck

I started playing the first game recently and feel like an absolute shitter. I can barely get past the second boss stage

>>385723076
>second boss stage
wouldn't that be the end of the game?

Maybe I forget, but I don't remember there being any routes with more than two bosses.

>>385723290
I dunno, I beat it in practice but never have in the proper game

There are certainly still a lot of stages I haven't unlocked, at least

>>385721126
>Umihara gets into a crossover
>It's some hyper fugly niche weebshit fighting game

God is dead.

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>>385723371
That crab is hard as fuck.

>>385723525
>hyper fugly niche weebshit fighting game
To be fair, it's a crossover with the Umihara dev's other games and then Cave Story for some reason.

never thought id see a /v/ thread about these games.

>>385721860
>>385721963

Sexualising her just seems so gratuitous to me, considering how the games themselves are completely non-sexual in content

>>385723624
Oh. I GUESS that makes sense then.

>>385721651
>yandere

>>385720089
The PS1 version with her shilling fishing products

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I'm gonna get called a sjw faggot but I don't like how dolled up Umihara became in the sequels. I liked that she was just some smarmy chef backpacking around a wacky fish world for no reason. The simple and carefree way she was presented kinda reminded me of Kirby

>>385724681
>i liked that she was just some smarmy chef backpacking around a wacky fish world for no reason
>he doesn't know
http://web.archive.org/web/20020628045027/http://www.os.rim.or.jp/~pekochan/umi/shun_hp5.html
http://blog.degigames.com/story/umihara-kawase-story/

>>385723982
Shouldn't you just take that as maybe meaning that she isn't sexualized? That maybe she's just busty and that's all it is? Busty women do exist in real life and maybe it's not such a bad thing to have a non-sexualized one every now and then. Especially if it can get less people to have this way of thinking that big boobs automatically equals sexual.

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>>385724952
>This backstory for a silly platformer with giant fish
Neat

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>>385725152
>That maybe she's just busty and that's all it is?

not that anon, but is that why they opened her shirt and put her breasts in the forefront of most of the promo art?

>>385725425
You don't know the tragic story of how she got recruited into a shady modeling business in Shinjuku when the Yakuza came to the grand opening of her first restaurant?

>>385725425
I actually hadn't seen that bikini art before. All the official art I've seen has always had her fully clothed, though, so this seems to be more the exception than the norm.

>>385725425
>game is about fishing and water
>game literally has both "ocean" and "river" in the title
>every single level takes place over a large body of water
>wearing a modest bikini is still regarded as sexualized
There's no winning

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>>385726205
about that...

>>385721963
Noticeable, yes. But "ridiculous" (as well as "oversized") is quite an exaggeration. Those are maybe C or D cups at best. It's the lower end of busty.

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>>385726361
>literal pinup isn't sexualization

Then what about this one? She literally takes her shirt off so that her tits aren't obscured

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Meanwhile, the first game actually has a shred of dignity

>>385726414
>But "ridiculous" (as well as "oversized") is quite an exaggeration.

Not really considering how in-your-face they are about it. They blatantly sex'ed up the character to appeal to a wider audience

>>385726729
>has a shred of dignity

No it doesn, not if it she still gives me a boner.

>>385725425
>>385726363
How many of these are there? They're admittedly pretty tame, but I haven't seen them before.

>>385726538
I don't know if it's just my end, but if that's supposed to be animated, I think it's broken.

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Guys stop being so triggered over boobs, it's not like they even appear ingame. You're just going out of your way to look for things to get mad about.

>>385726797
>Not really considering how in-your-face they are about it.
The fuck are you going on about? None of the shit posted is "in-your-face" at all. Either I'm just jaded, or everyone here is overly sensitive to breasts.

>>385726989
I reckon is some idiot getting his kicks by acting like your typical SJW, ignore and move on.

>>385719527
>that huge leap
I feel like such a shitter now.

Also, stop getting mad over boobies in your video game art.

>>385726989
>bawww everything needs to be generic waifushit shit and pander to my low test virgin peepee!!
>Proper character designs trigger meee!!

>>385727236
>liking good character design is being a SJW

???

>>385726989
The hilarious thing is how tame all the shit they're getting mad about is. This isn't fucking DOA or shit like that. These people are completely blowing everything out of proportion.

>>385727236
Eh, you might be right. Anyone actually getting butthurt over something this tame has to either be a troll or someone that probably shouldn't even be posting on 4chan to begin with.

>>385719301
wtf is this shovelware

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>>385727157
Her oversized breasts are literally center of the frame. Are you actually blind or something?

>>385727340
>anything bigger than A-cup and fully covered torso is generic waifushit
You're not really helping your point. Go look at the shit Idea Factory pumps out if you want to see what actual waifushit looks like.

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Fantabulous, lets keep the ball rollin'.

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>>385727460
>If other people do it worse it's okay for these people to do it!

What kind of retarded mindset is this? Are we on neogaf?

Someone post cameraman Abe's drawing, please.

>>385727460
>REEEE FUCK CHARACTER DESIGN I NEED TO BE PANDERED TOO!

you don't belong here

>>385727540
You seriously need to stop replying to that guy, he's just getting a laugh out of you and the best stratagem is to starve him.

>>385727540
>>385727679
>objective proof that she was sex'ed up in the sequels to pander
>I-It's just trolling!
???

>>385719254
its also the best 2D oppai loli fish swinging sim

>>385727605
By the way you're reacting to something as painfully minor and inoffensive as a moderately busty woman in a bikini, I wouldn't be surprised if we WERE on NeoGAF.

>>385727523
>oversized
What's the largest that breasts can be to not be "oversized", according to you? I'm not denying those are big, but holy shit, you and your fucking hyperbole.

>>385721248
I actually really appreciate them using large breasts for characterization.

It's something that can be done but is so rarely done in the west and isn't even done that often in Japan (even in Japanese games and anime, large breasts of Umihara's size are either limited to works specifically trying to appeal to that concept (Senran Kagura) or are relatively rare.

I love very large breasts, and as someone with a deep appreciation of them as well as a love of various mediums of designed entertainment, I find it a little disappointing that large breasts are something most character designers are frankly scared of.

>>385724681
>>385727236

/v/ sure has become predictable. Is it because of summer?

>>385727815
>How dare you be mad that a good character design was turned into generic bland waifushit! EVERYTHING NEEDS TO PANDER TO ME!!!

Hi neogaf

>>385727815
She randomly got giant tits in the sequel exclusively to pander.

Notice how the first game never had any fanservice pinup art..

>>385727936
Both designs are fine. Stop being an idiot.

>>385727823
i am your guy then, friend
when im a better artist, its my focus for my story i have brewing

fucking love huge breasts, but i believe that the character they are tacked on to should be good first, because then if people hate a character for her boob size, they just hate boobs and can't see a character for who they truly are.

>>385727823
>I actually really appreciate them using large breasts for characterization.

They didn't do that though. They did it to homogenize her with every other completely generic female character.

Why can japan never just let a female be a good character? They pigeonhole themselves into a single bland waifushit hole and it's incredibly boring and generic.

I like these games, but I can never get very far in them because they're so hard desu.

>>385728052
>Both designs are fine.

one is a good design and the other is bland homogenized waifushit. Bland isn't good.

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>>385728196
>>385728118
>>385728005
Everything this guy is saying is just wrong. Let's have a look at the art actually used to promote the sequel.

>>385719301
>>385719527
H... how? Just how? That's impressive, man.

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>>385728285
>this is bland homogenized waifushit

>>385719829
I used to have a lot of this guy's art back in the early to mid 2000's, dont remember who he is and dont even remember how i got to his site but i fapped alot.

>>385728118
Most popular "waifu" characters don't have big tits though.

Seriously, it's extremely rare that the primary popular girl in any Japanese game or anime that isn't specifically appealing to the tits audience has anything bigger than a C cup. Look at your Sabers and your Lightnings.

Unless you have an oddly specific view of "waifushit", her breasts aren't homogenizing at all, and if anything, they stand out. And considering her character, they're quite clearly intended to show personal growth through aging.

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>>385728285
>much bigger breasts out of literally nowhere
>jacket is opened up to make sure autists can fap to her properly
>her tits are basically center frame

Meanwhile in the first game...

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>>385728365
>blatantly oversexualized to appeal to a wider audience
>the focus is entirely on umi's breasts in the sequels

>>385728486
>Most popular "waifu" characters don't have big tits though.

This is a retarded generalization considering essentially every japanese female character is made to be sexy waifu pandering

This thread started off comfy and has gone full retard. Can we go back to talking about the games?

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>>385728550
>Meanwhile, in the official artbook for the first game

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>still replying to the idiot faking outrage

I tried to help you guys, i really did.

>>385728627
>actually trying to deny it when japan is known for obnoxiously overusing generic cute anime girls to sell games to the lowest common denominator

your image is proof

>>385728752
Sorry, I get defensive about my favorite game.

>>385721651
she's a sushi chef you know

>>385728752
Good, you're going back to r*ddit. Don't come back, waifufag

>>385728431
That's the cover of one of the Umihara doujins on sadpanda. It shouldn't be too hard to find from that info alone.

Which Umihara game should I pick up on Steam first?

>>385728992
all of them

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>>385728302
These are from a TAS, but there's an official DVD out there with some way more impressive moves that were actually performed in real-time.

Like, clearing levels while dragging a backpack to the exit and such. It's really cool.

>We will never get another 2D Umihara game

the 3D art was just awful.

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>>385728992
All of them. I think they're sold cheaper as a bundle, and they're all amazing and unique.

Just play either 1 or 2 first, because the cute little subtle cutscene tutorials are far more effective than the unnecessary tutorial (just turn it off) in Sayonara.

>>385724419
Is there anything about the Steam version that makes it not as good?

>>385729220
I agree that it was bad on the 3DS, but I kinda like it on PC/vita when it's in 60FPS.

Also if you consider that every game Studio Saizensen has put out since Umihara Kawase has nicely-drawn 2D sprites, maybe it's possible that the next Umihara game will be 2D too.

I get the feeling that they just don't want to do the same art-style twice for the series.

>>385729312
The Steam version is actually the best one, has a much improved practice mode and some other stuff

>>385729312
Not him, but from an objective standpoint, the Steam version is superior. It has more levels and much more content.

From a subjective standpoint, the advertisements in the middle of the game are cute as fuck and I like the first version of the game for them alone.

Have they said if the series is dead or not?

I'd fucking love a Nendroid based on her chibi sprite

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I never expected to see an Umihara thread move this fast.

Never heard of these game before honestly. Looks neat. Would you guys recommend a certain way to get into it? Like, how many games are there and are they all available to get on a console? (I don't PC)

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>>385729671
It's not super high-quality, but I like the little climbing Umi that was a pre-order bonus for the Vita game.

>>385729763
There are 3 games, best versions are on the PC but the DS and Vita versions are still pretty good (avoid the PSP version at all costs)
Check out kawasefan.net for more details

>>385729763
there are 3. All are on steam.

Umihara Kawase > Shin > Sayonara is the order you should play them in. Also, play them with a gamepad

>>385729671
I'm pretty sure it's not dead.

>>385729763
Best way to play all three games on the same console would be a vita with a japanese account. An updated version of the original game is packaged in for free with the latest title, Sayonara Umihara Kawase. And then the second game, Shun, can be bought off PSN as a PS1 classic (but it's only available in Japan.)

You can import a physical copy of the new game for vita, as it's region free. But it's also for sale on PSN in NA and EU.

>>385729925
Is that one of those things you put on the rim of a cup?

>>385729539
I wish there was a way for someone to add them into the steam version to make it the most "complete" one

I'd kill a man for a trilogy collection on PS4/Switch

>>385729932
Not him, but I'd like to add a couple of things.

While the DS port is not perfect, it's known as a relatively great port of the game. The graphics are slightly scaled down for the screen, and the music is unfortunately a bit off with different instruments.

In addition, while Sayonara is available on the 3DS, you do NOT want to play this game when the vita version is better in literally every way. The 3ds version runs at 30fps and has worse graphics and controls, compared to the vita which runs at 60 fps, has more maps and features, better graphics, updated levels, the first game packed in, online rankings, and more.

With all of this in mind, as the vita has perfect versions of all three games, I'd say vita is the way to go.

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>>385730219
Yeah, but she climbs anything quite handily.

I personally have (had) mine hanging around like this.

>>385729932
>>385729948
>>385730128

I have actually do have a Vita, so it'd be nice to have something else to play on that corpse of a console.

I also forgot to ask, but I'm guessing the game's easy to understand even for people who don't know moon speak?

>>385730608
>Literally no way to get the figure nowadays

Goddamn I want a new game just for the sake of another piece of merch

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>>385730765
There is no dialogue in the game whatsoever.

I do also think the vita has a great library, but that's a subject for another thread.

>>385730765
There's almost no text in the games and most of it is in English, so you're good to go

>>385730765
The first game has no japanese text. the main menu is exclusively english, and that's all the dialogue there is

>>385730857
>>385730863

I getcha, I'm just talking in terms of exclusives.

Thanks my dudes, I'll see if I can find a physical copy of Sayonara somewhere

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>>385730810
I want pic related so bad. I don't think it was ever for sale though.

>>385730898
It does have Japanese text in the menus, but that shouldn't be too big of a problem unless you want to save replays.

>>385731091
Is that figure official or is it a custom?

if I was going to draw a thicc umihara, what would be the right amount of thiccness, I want to restrain how far I go in order to keep it more subtly sensual, but she has to have at least some pudge to her, anyone have any suggestions in the form of images with the body type range that I'm looking for?

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>>385731304
Probably custom.

>>385731343
Which age Umihara? She gets older with each game.

>>385731091
WHAT IS THIS?

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>>385731343
Official art.

Captcha: AVENUE BATTLE

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>>385731343

>>385731606
>>385731726
this is why the series died

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>>385731343
Fanart, but I like this little series.

>>385731343
>drawing BBW art of a notoriously skeletor character

???

>>385731795
>Umihara Kawase Portable, the jank PSP game that was developed by a different company thanks to the publisher being dicks

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>>385731934
Have you never seen umi's umis?

>>385732016
>fanart

Are you retarded?

>>385732016
>reddit definition of "thicc"

you need to go back.

>>385732016
That guy mentioned drawing her with "pudge", so I'm pretty sure he wants to make her actually fat, and not just in her tits.

>>385732284
Gotcha, my apologies.

>>385732386
lurk moar newshit

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>>385732512
There sure are some angry people in here for a thread about such a relaxing game.

Also, I still wish we got the anime that showed up in the TV screen during Shun's ending.

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>>385731343
I want Filia-thicc Umi!

>>385732709
If anyone hasn't seen it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yPu4OVnnJU

>>385719254
Hey /vr/trooper, I am well aware of the thirst for talking about your favorite game but /v/ is not the place for it. The only time you ever want to come to /v/ is when you want a migraine.

>>385732903
I remember having nice threads about Umihara Kawase about 5 years ago, though.

>>385733061
/v/ was bearable back then. 2012? Yeah /v/ was bearable. These days it's just tryhards, newfags of the worst kind, and- in general, cancer. And if you're ever wondering "I wonder what /v/'s up to today" the answer is always "the same thing as yesterday, the day before that, and the day before that, and etc.".

>>385719254
>the best
Not sure about that, but I bought the game the moment it got released on Steam.

It's extremely tough.

>>385732903
>>385733061
>>385733269

/v/ is, and always has been, as good as you make it.

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>>385733904
Learn to let go.

>>385732903
/vr/ is an insufferable place and /v/ can have nice retro and niche game discussion without sperging out the moment someone brings up a gba or psp game

>>385735073
so it's insufferable because you can't talk about gba... psp??? are you serious?

geez, you /v/ermin sure are something.

Could a full 3D Kawase game work?

I finished Grow Home recently, kept wishing I had a grappling hook to use.

>>385735997
I feel like it would be pretty hard to do unless the hook either latched on to things automatically or was limited to just a range in front of you.

Just started the first one, I think half my deaths have been to randomly spawning enemies. Real aggravating.

>>385737975
Keep in mind that if you go over the spot that the enemy is going to spawn on before they do, they will spawn somewhere else.

>>385737975
The respawning enemies are an issue in this game imo.

>>385719829
What fighting game?

>>385738731
Stranger Blades. new game coming out for Switch featuring characters made by Kawase's developers. (Cave Story, Code of Princess)

>>385727576
Holy shit, I never thought of this. This is great!

>>385738819
wait im retarded. It's Blade Strangers, and its also gonna be on PC and PS4

>>385738819
Cave Story was developed by Pixel

>>385737132
What would make the most sense in my opinion is to keep it at set angles similar to the 2D games rather than perfect 360 aiming and have a set maximum distance the line will extend so the platforming is more timing and distance based rather than strictly aiming.

>>385738819
>>385739116
Oh, that sounds cool! any idea if it's coming stateside at all?

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I recently beat Sayonara, and Shun still gives me ptsd.

>>385727823
Not trying to reignite this argument, but what purpose do they serve as part of this character? Just having huge tits because the designer thinks they're good isn't adding anything to her character

>>385743149
Huge tits are a sign of good health.

i can't believe /v/ is arguing about tiddy size

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>>385743149
chestlets go home.

>>385728070
wait you can actually break the hook?

IIRC, game designer said it's just because he love bigger tits when Arino ask him about Kawase's propotin

>>385743686
I guess this can actually be true. She has the figure of someone who has grown up moving around a lot and eating a lot of fish

>>385744345
It's pretty easy to do if you get blocked while going on conveyer belts

Took me 30-40 tries just to beat the first boss, fucking hell.

>>385740828
There's a short broadcast about it on E3 2017. It is coming in the west, no doubt about it.

>>385748772
Fuckin' sweet. I hope it's good.

>>385726984
>76 kB gif
>expect it to be animated

>>385748852
I'm very much looking forward to. Unfortunately, it gets close to zero coverage at all. Nicalis is publishing it though.

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>>385750348

/vr/ is OBSESSED with this game, deservedly so

>>385752217
It's really good. I had to give it a try after seeing the GCCX episode on it and was completely sold on it.

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>double tadpole

>>385753813
just go under when they jump!

>>385743149
>falls into the water
>huge tits make her float

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>>385719254
JUST MADE THIS WALLPAPER

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>>385755203
Also got a couple others that I saved.

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>>385755292

Kawase's original artist likes big boobs. He made his character bustier because he felt like it and that's really the whole story.

The OST is comfy as fuck https://youtu.be/JHLwPUGJzKc

>>385719254
I just can't fucking get good at this game.

I'm playing Sayonara on the 3DS.

I've never touched this series, give me a rundown on what I should play first please. Looks cute and fun.

Shun on NA PSN when? I want to play it on my Vita.

>>385759324

Keep going at it. This is a series that legitimately gets more fun the longer you play it.

>>385759775

Sayonara's the one I started with (go figure, it was the first to get localized) and I don't regret it as it goes a bit more out of its way to explain the mechanics as well as some QOL additions to make things smoother for newcomers. The first 2 games are much more arcadish, having to start from scratch each time whereas Sayonara lets you play levels one by one with unlimited retries, though you can also play the classic way as well.

Having said all this, where you start matters and can impact how well you adapt to each game as the physics change things up a bit with each entry. In this light I'd recommend the very first game as a starting point as its physics are neither as heavy as Shun's nor as springy as Sayonara's, making for a happy midpoint which makes adjusting easier than starting on either extreme. Case in point, I have a hard time with Shun's heft because of how NOT heavy Sayonara was. Also probably why I feel that game is the weakest starting point despite it not really doing anything wrong. It probably doesn't matter too much where you start so long as it's not the PSP version of Shun, which should be avoided like the plague.