>the sun is your biggest enemy

>>385709924
The game gets harder when the sun is down so not sure about that

Well if the sun was your enemy at all it probably would be bigger than all your other enemies. it's pretty big

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>>385709924
This game is exceedingly mediocre, the entire thing feels like a soulless smattering of western game design.

>>385711443
>>385709924
How long has it been since you have ever looked directly into the sun?

>>385709924

Sun glare should only be extremely bad when looking directly at the sun. Otherwise it's just bothersome.

>>385709924
For all you fuckers still playing Dying Light you can use this to redeem a key for a one of a kind assault rifle.

https://gemly.com/shop/Dying-Light---Harran-Military-Rifle-4100000/4100000101

>>385711545
Yesterday.

>>385711518
pleb

>>385711545
How long has it been since you got shot?

>>385711591
Deal w/ it yo.

The game genuinley feels like Far Cry mashed with Skyrim with some elements of Assassin's Creed in it here and there. The whole night time super zombies and invasion thing are pretty cool though, so is the air drops that fall in sporadically, but the core mechanics of the game are meh.

>>385711765
4 years

>>385711872
It's nothing like those games lol idiot

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>>385711995
Goddamn that looks stupid

>>385711958
>lock picking identical to Skyrim and Fallout
>Assassin's Creed style "haystacks" in the form of trash bags
>tower climbing straight out a Far Cry
>character writing feels ripped straight out of Far Cry, villain feels almost exactly like the big bad guy from Far Cry 3
>first person melee combat that feels about on par with Skyrim

The whole thing just reeks of "Hey, those other games were popular, lets copy their systems" and feels lacking because of it.

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>>385712502
I don't think you realize how retarded you are. Probably for the best

>>385712715
>posts an anime picture
>can't refute any points

Every time :^)

>>385712502
>first person melee combat that feels about on par with Skyrim
So you didn't play it.

>>385712908
>Someone makes a statement completely lacking in substance beyond looking at pictures
>Lol you didn't refute my points
I have nothing to refute since you made no points. Go play the game

>>385709924
>bloom: on/off
FUCKING HELL WHY NOT "just a little bit"??????????????

>>385709924
>Stares directly at the sun
>REEEEEE HWY IS IT SO BRIGHT REEEEEE

Its the sun, ya stupid.

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>>385709924
>the game brings the sun

>>385712971
>>385713024
I have like 9 hours in the game, mostly coop, seems pretty mediocre overall.

Also no, everything I stated was factually correct.

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>>385709924
>>the sun is your biggest enemy

>>385713404
And i have like 15 hours in your mother, mostly coop, she's pretty mediocre overall

>>385713404
>factually
There also is the difference that all the things you mentioned are much smaller things in dying light instead of being major mechanics that happen frequently.
But if you say Dying Light's melee combat feels like skyrim then you are a fucking retard, objectively so.

>>385713404
I have 90 something
It was the best game of 15

>>385713523
>But if you say Dying Light's melee combat feels like skyrim then you are a fucking retard, objectively so.

What exactly separates it from Skyrim's combat? You get a nice dodge, a stamina bar, some strong attacks and a weak attack. You eventually get other things but they don't really add to combat in any meaningful way, so overall the only thing it does better than Skyrim is give you a dodge.

>>385713564
>>385713458
Must suck to have shittaste.

>>385712502
>a lockpicking mechanic makes the game like skyrim and fallout
>a falling mechanic makes the game like ass creed
>a climbing mechanic and a character makes the game like Far Cry
I've never seen anyone grasp so hard to save face after saying something retarded.

>combat like skyrim
Completely wrong and you just put it there to pad your retarded explanation.

>>385713421
Does that actually make sense in the game universe?

>tfw use auriels bow at the sun for the first time

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>>385709924
>>the sun is your biggest enemy

>>385713421
I saw the trailer of the game and immediately got hooked away, then the retarded perma-death completely make the game unenjoyable.

>>385713901
When you borrow mechanics from other games it makes your game slightly similar to them, yes. If you gave a game active reloads and a cover system it would be similar to Gears of War.

>Completely wrong

How are they different? Because no one here seems able to separate the two. Basically both are god awful.

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I remember HL2 having this amazing "new" feature where your character gets used to the sunlight after stepping out of a dark area, and the sun slowly being less blinding

Is that Source engine only or something? Do games not do it these days?

>>385709924
Battlefield 3 was the fucking worst

They even had a developer Q&A about it and all the suggestions pointed to less sun glare but then one of the deva said "so you prefer this image!?" which was a picture of the brighter fucking sun covering half the map it was ridiculous

>>385713935
>Does that actually make sense in the game universe?
Not only does it make sense, it is completely, literally true. The Sunless Sea/Fallen London universe is something wonderful.
I can try to explain further, if you'd like. It's kind of heavy spoilers.

>>385714214
Anon, why didn't you just play in non permadeath mode? It affects nothing.

>>385714284
ironically, it's called HDR
I think it debuted in Lost Coast

>>385714284
>>385714595
Actually it's called adaptation, most games have it nowadays but not for the sun, they want the sun to be blinding so they disable it in that situation. I believe GTAV does it similarly to HL2.

>>385714284
But it is used, extensively

>>385711586
It's actually good, not very loud so you don't have everyone and their zombie moms on your tail after few shots.

>>385713835
>combat like skyrim
Does Skyrim have these
>vault drop attack
>dropkick
>slide kick
>ramming
>stunned takedown
>shove stomp
>grab reversal
You can criticize the game for locking away most of its combat options behind a character progression tree but saying that the combat is like Skyrim is simply factually incorrect.
>don't add to combat in any meaningful way
Human enemies will constantly parry and dodge if you just use the moves that you mentioned. Shove and then stomp or vaulting overhead followed by a drop attack are practically necessary. If you've played for longer than 9 hours and faced the Tahir boss fight you would've known this.

>>385714716
Well yeah but I mean to use that tech in regards to the sun
Sure it's bright and all, and devs want to make it realistic or whatever, but even the human eye can get a bit used to it, and it doesn't exactly contribute much to the game anyway

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>start on hard
>takes two full durability weapons and 3 stamina bars to kill a zombie with all head hits
>humans can take up to 50 hits with basic weapons and they kill you in 3 hits

>>385715048
Just play normal, that sounds fucking terrible

I got the game the other day, loving it so far

>>385713835
Holy shit just stop already. Does Condemned have Skyrim-like combat? Or maybe Dark Messiah of M&M have?
8/10, I actually believed you're this retarded

>>385715048
>tfw just using fists, drop kick and tackle

Fuck weapons.

>>385709924
>playing skyrim with zombies

>reskinned Rais's men with slightly higher hp
>reskinned military rifle with slightly tweaked stats
>introduced/reintroduced a number of bugs
Free content was a mistake

>>385715048
Normal for first playthrough.
Hard for NG+.
Nightmare when you have enough Legend levels.

The difficulty in this game is p. balanced.

>>385713835
>You eventually get other things but they don't really add to combat in any meaningful way
What a massive faggot you are. You used like 10% of moves I guess. Did you really just spam left click all game?

>>385711545
>How long has it been since you have ever looked directly into the sun?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg3CPXqVkDs

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>>385715316
>Normal for first playthrough.
>Willingly playing on the journalist difficuilty

>>385711518
Mate wtf

>>385715665
Just go for a relaxed walk on your first night. Or second night. Or third, or forth. I dare you.

>>385713835
>Comparing it to Skyrim combat
Are you absolutely retarded? Skyrim is a steaming pile of clunk and cringe when it comes combat.
Dying Light did this a whole lot smoother and you can even chain together different moves if you play it right.

Since the new content update the game seems to always start in windowed mode. Anyone else have this issue?

>>385714284
It's à default option in Unreal Engine 4

>>385715154
Dark Messiah's combat is improved drastically because of how you can use magic and the environment to set up traps and take down enemies. If the game didn't have that then it wouldn't be nearly as enjoyable. On top of that DM also has a bigger variety of weapons, shields, moves, and magics you can use.

>>385714926
The bulk of those additional moves add little to nothing to the core combat, you can very easily beat the game without using any of them.

>Human enemies will constantly parry and dodge if you just use the moves that you mentioned. Shove and then stomp or vaulting overhead followed by a drop attack are practically necessary. If you've played for longer than 9 hours and faced the Tahir boss fight you would've known this.

https://youtu.be/RZNOKrIEzR0?t=95

The only thing this dude does is bait out an attack, dodge backwards, and then punish him. He can't even dodge to the side because the dude's attacks track hard as fuck. Also when he takes too much damage he just hides for a short while until the health regen kicks in and allows him to keep playing.

If this fight is supposed to showcase how good the combat is then I'm not very impressed.

>>385713835
>you use a button to swing a sword in dark souls wooooooow exactly like skyrim wooooow
how can you breathe when you are this fucking retarded?

>>385716052
>On top of that DM also has a bigger variety of weapons, shields, moves
Sword, dual daggers, staff, bow. ONE (1) shield type. A boot

>>385716314
>>385715945
See the video yo >>385716052

The only thing it does better than Skyrim is having a dodge.

>>385716321
Which is more variety than what Dying Light provides in the melee department. The magics are also more diverse than the firearms in DL.

It also has a much better, much more satisfying kick.

>>385711518
t. Man with no friends to coop/Vs Hunter with.

Not a vamp but i prefer nightime as it doesnt give you cancer and is comfy

>>385716052
Didn't played DM except demo version, so I don't know how many weapons and stuff is there.
But in Dying Light there are >>385714926 combat moves, somewhere around 10-20 different types of melee weapons, some of them have somehow different movesets, few elemental upgrades which can be applied to any meele weapon and even to the shield. There's also few guns, bow-crossbow, a lot of throwables that can be considered as magic, i.e. elemental grenades, molotovs, flares, mines, just some axes/shurikens. Also some environmental traps. And stuff like camouflage, stealth kills, grappling hook. And motherfucking buggy on top of that.
I'm not sure DM have much more than that.

>>385716968
> somewhere around 10-20 different types of melee weapons, some of them have somehow different movesets, few elemental upgrades which can be applied to any meele weapon

Reminds me a lot of Borderlands then. The elemental stuff feels so tacked on, are there even enemy types that have elemental weaknesses, or is it just a little damage boost you can add?

The melee combat itself isn't interesting or good so the weapon diversity with it isn't going to help at all. Furi only has two weapons and its combat system is much more fun.

>>385712502
Nice to know you never played it. Show me where skyrim has location damage and melee weapons actually staggering the enemy or knocking them off their feet if you go for the legs.
Also the "haystacks" are a good thing, unless you think slowly climbing down every tall structure is a better way to play.

The lockpicking has been in other games than just muh bethesda games. Oh and tower climbing isnt even close to how it works in ass creed, those are the little ground level outposts you clear. Rarely will you have to do a tower for one, and even then they are more like platforming puzzles on the harder ones than whatever asscreed does since asscreeed decided jump buttons are lame.

Seriously though the momentum and jump button alone makes it so much more than alot of games like it.

>>385714592
>play in non permadeath mode
There is? Is it 3rd-party mod or implemented in base game?
Guess I will just rev it up and give it a try again

>>385717424
Each element has a particular property/debuff/stun applied to it. Some enemies are immune to certain elements, like the gross spitter zombie things don't give 2 fucks about acid damage.

>>385717537
You can play with save spam

>>385717534
>Oh and tower climbing isnt even close to how it works in ass creed, those are the little ground level outposts you clear.

I was referring to the radio towers out of Far Cry 3, but your reading comprehension is clearly garbage.

Also having your combat be slightly better than Skyrim's doesn't make it good.

>>385717424
>melee combat itself isn't interesting or good
Well, that's just your opinion.

>>385717815
>i dont like thing
Ok.

Also they are nothing like FC3 towers either retard, theres no map to reveal

General question, why do god rays always look like shit in video games?

>>385709924
You really are almost blind when you're looking right at the sun, though. I get its exclusion from competitive games, but Dying Light is just a co-op game and PvP is only at night.

>>385717924
For the same reason you dont call them by their proper name.

>>385718000
God's shaft?

>>385718072
crepuscular rays

Because they are crepuscular, like certain animals.
They only come at at a specific time of day

>>385717537
>There is?
Yeah, Merciful Mode - it lets you manually save at any time. You should be able to activate it whenever you're docked in a Port (and thus can save), or right from the start if you're starting a new game.
Good luck, anon! I hope you enjoy it more this time!

>>385716052
>>385716658
>that video
And he almost died several times. Also Dark Souls can be beaten without using blocking, dodging or sprinting, so what's your point? Action games don't put up leveling check points like in rpgs where if you haven't upgraded a certain trait then you're locked yourself out. You can get by with some difficulty by only using the basic moves like in the video, or you can make your life easier and use additional moves when swarmed with goons about halfway through that fight. I used the drop attack and shove and then stomp and finished the fight almost without getting hit at all. The fact that that's not necessary is a reflection of the game's low difficulty more than the lack of combat options, which was the point you were trying to make, which I've pointed out that it's wrong.

>>385713564
>>385713835
Pre ordered in 13.

Majority of these hours were racked up in 15.
https://gyazo.com/e39b87cd2358d3d42b96b74e8f54143e

It's not a high number to you basement dwellers but 184 hours is super impressive for me since my average time sunk is the 30 hour mark.

No regrets. Best game of 15.

>>385713404
You being a massive cock-sucking retarded faggot is also factually correct.

>>385717908
>Also they are nothing like FC3 towers either retard, theres no map to reveal

You still have to climb them for quests and they're mechanically very similar, you're going to an extreme length to make them seem different.

>>385717834
I'd like to believe I've provided ample reasons as to why I hold that opinion. There is a handful of moves added to the game, but ultimately they don't mesh super well with the core mechanics.

>>385718350
> Also Dark Souls can be beaten without using blocking, dodging or sprinting

Dark Souls doesn't have health regen, allowing you to beat bosses by retreating and making an infinite amount of mistakes.

> I used the drop attack and shove and then stomp and finished the fight almost without getting hit at all.

So you just killed the guards off quickly by knocking them over and then kicking their heads while down? Yeah, that does sound interesting or fun. At least with dodging and striking the game has a semblance of combat, instead of just quickly going for the insta kill move.

>>385718503
Stay salty nigga.

>>385713421
>Without sunlight, the earth would spin off into space.

>Light = Gravity

I guess any retard can go and write shit these days.

>>385711586
>for a one of a kind assault rifle.

This is factually wrong. Its a literal reskin of one of the other military rifles in the game, the stats are identical down to the decimal point and recoil pattern.

>>385718826
>they don't mesh super well with the core mechanics
Again, that's just an opinion. In my opinion they're working really good with other mechanics.

>>385718826
Can you please end your miserale life

>>385718826
Jeses man just mod it if you dont like it.

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>the sun is your enemy

>>385715048
I only ever played it on Nightmare. Get used to abusing instant-kills. Alerting the virals means leaving the area or hopping up on the nearest ledge and curbstomping heads for the next minute.

>>385715048
>im dumb and dont know higher difficulties are for leveled characters or asspies

>>385716925
t. Vampire

>>385718939
>I guess any retard can go and write shit these days.
Indeed, as you yourself have just proven.
>Every fictional universe needs to adhere exactly to the rules of our world

>>385719203
>Implying you wouldn't

>>385719628
>Crazy, stupid, a scam artist AND ugly.

I assure you, I wouldn't.

>>385718826
>Dark Souls doesn't have health regen, allowing you to beat bosses by retreating and making an infinite amount of mistakes.
Not sure what point you're trying to make here. If you're saying that Dark Souls is more challenging than Dying Light then that's obvious.

>So you just killed the guards off quickly by knocking them over and then kicking their heads while down? Yeah, that does sound interesting or fun. At least with dodging and striking the game has a semblance of combat, instead of just quickly going for the insta kill move.
So you've now admitted that the combat options which you've previously dismissed do actually make a difference?
Now if you're changing the argument to how they make the game too easy then I might somewhat agree, although you're by all means free to keep spamming your basic moves and get hit constantly.

>>385719609
>Indeed, as you yourself have just proven.
Holy shit how buttflustered are you? I mean there's defensive but you sound like you're fucking paid to defend this garbage holy fuck I've never seen anyone go from 0 to assblasted as fast as you, in the course of one post you went on full offensive over a bit of criticsm, fucking hell dude seek help.

>>385715048
I began on hard and had the same problem for the first hour. Then I crafted Wrench Kiss weapon and began tearing those zombs apart in 3-4 hits to the head. Really made me feel the progress leap I've made. It even feels right to use those shitty starting weapons only as means to fend off and stun zombies while you run away until you're geared properly. And even so a good smack to the side can send them tumbling on spikes or some other shit one-hit killing them.

>>385719115
Well you're not doing a great job explaining why you hold that opinion. Pretty much all of the combat abilities are fairly situational and don't really lead into one another in an interesting way. I guess knock downs into head stomps is sort of a combo, but ultimately the moves you get are just situational damage dealers.

Even when playing with my friends that have 200 hours into the game, the still just ran up and slapped zombies around with their melee weapons. Sometimes they did drop attacks and slide kicks, but it seemed more out of novelty than out of it even being a efficient and safe attack.

>>385719780
>Not sure what point you're trying to make here

I'm saying that boss fight is horrid dogshit because of the health regen mechanic, the basic combat, and the fact that the bosses attacks have tracking on them.

>So you've now admitted that the combat options which you've previously dismissed do actually make a difference?

Their importance is minimal and the only real good ones are the head stomp insta kill ones. These don't make combat more interesting or fun.

>>385719609
he's right tho, writing is fucking garbage

>>385720045
>I'm saying that boss fight
Original Dying Light had literally (literaly) 1 (one) boss combat and it's fucking QTE that took 30 seconds at best.
I don't have even the slightest idea why are you bringing it.

>200 hours of legend levels
>just ran up and slapped zombies around with their melee weapons
No shit.

this game was fun as fuck. never really played it online though apart from a few games as the hunter

>>385720393
>he's right tho, writing is fucking garbage
Perhaps you should try something easier, then?

>>385720595
Wrecking or being raped by volatiles is legitimate fun/10 in multiplayer.

>>385720671
This is the second time you responded to criticism with ad hominem. What exactly is flustering your but? Hit a nerve did I? Aww you gonna cry? Poor babby had his fanfic tier writing insulted bwwoooo whhwwooo.

Want me to call you a waaaambulance?

>>385720872
This.
>Post illegible garbage.
>It gets criticized.
>Instead of posting a better example of writing he just starts insulting everyone.
This has to be autism, because if there was any better writing in that garbage, he would have posted it.

>>385719609
>Every fictional universe needs to adhere exactly to the rules of our world
You may be right. But forcefully making things different just for the sake of being different, without any substance to it isn't good writing. But please don't think of a legitimate argument, just insult me like you did the other guy. I'm only a published Author, what the fuck do I know about writing compared to whatever the fuck level of highschool you dropped out from.

>>385720872
>This is the second time you responded to criticism with ad hominem.
It isn't, though. Neither of those 'criticisms' contains any legitimate argument whatsoever. The first post's implication that a fictional world has to have exactly the same rules as ours is stupid, and the second post is so poorly written that it's nonsensical. Is all writing garbage? Just that post? The game as a whole, which I'll assume the poster hasn't played? Even if it's the latter, saying something is 'garbage' while providing no evidence or explanation doesn't constitute an argument.

>>385721078
>illegible
Doesn't mean what you apparently think it means. Don't bother telling me you meant it metaphorically or something, because there are clearer and better ways of making your point without leaving you open to such criticism.

>>385720045
>bossfights are horrid dogshit
Of course they are, but this wasn't the point you were trying to make. Your point, which I've refuted, was: Dying Light's combat is limited and the extra moves aren't meaningful.

>their importance is minimal
You've just admitted yourself that they do make an important different, even insinuating that they make the game easy.
>don't make combat interesting or fun
Pointless subjective statement. Try dealing with the arguments point by point or don't bother.

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>>385721679
>Dying Light's combat is limited and the extra moves aren't meaningful.

They are.

>You've just admitted yourself that they do make an important different

They don't, only the head stomp which is one (1) move.

>even insinuating that they make the game easy.

I never implied this, but the game is full of boring damage sponges unless you're swinging a big dick weapon, which is another thing that makes the combat shit.

>Pointless subjective statement

Not at all, if you actually like the games combat you should be able to explain why you like it.

>>385722397
>the combat is shit because you can't one hit everything with weak weapons
you're retarded

>>385722604
I did not imply that either, but the combat seems to go from beating a single zombie multiple times in the head nearly breaking a weapon until he drops to stabbing zombies in the head 1 shots them.

Even with friends the game just felt meh and fairly uninteresting outside of the night stuff, the mediocre combat and quests being a big part of this.

>>385721194
>But forcefully making things different just for the sake of being different, without any substance to it isn't good writing.
One of the most pointlessly reductive statements I've ever had the pleasure of reading. How can you reasonably decry something as having no substance when you have only read a couple of fantastic sentences and given no thought to context whatsoever? What point is there to making anything different, especially in fantasy writing, except to create an interesting world and consistent worldbuilding and lore? You cannot reasonably criticise something as being ''different for the sake of difference'' without bothering to understand the context. You could make the same assertion of any number of fantastic things in any number of works, but it doesn't make it poor writing. An obstinate insistence on realism at all costs is poor writing.

>I'm only a published Author, what the fuck do I know about writing
Meaningless even if you had cited what it was that you had published (which I doubt you will), considering such exemplars as Stephenie Meyer and Christopher Paolini managed to get themselves published. Declaring yourself a published author doesn't magically make your argument any more or less correct, irrespective of how much you wish that were so.

>>385722397
>They are.
You're probably just taking a piss at this point but okay let's do this again. Dying Light's combat is limited (I've listed the various extra moves) and the extra moves aren't meaningful (they are useful, you've already admitted as much).

>only the head stomp which is one (1) move.
I like how you've dismissed the moves which set the enemies up for a head stomp as if they just readily fall to the ground on their own.
>damage sponges
You can kill a demolisher with just a few rebar throws to the head.
>Not at all, if you actually like the games combat you should be able to explain why you like it.
Don't shift the burden this way. Personally I don't think the combat is perfect, but I'm just here to refute your flawed statements.

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>Decide to play Dying Light on nightmare
>Spend entire minutes trying to kill one zombie
Alright, time to restart on hard

>>385725763

Nightmare is more for the completionists. With the legend ranks you can clean house once you're max level. Otherwise it'd be way too easy once you max all out. But it is a shitfest in the beginning.

>>385711443
The problem with dice isn't the lighting, its that they're ice mutants who've never seen the sun higher than 30°.