gaming is better now than it's ever been.

>>385703319
>is more comeralized

Not better Anon.

Name some games that have come out in the last year that will have the same status after 20 years as, let's say, Super Mario 64

Name 1 good game coming out later this year

File: obk99hwq591uj9ekno1.png (250KB, 1280x1294px) Image search: [Google]

250KB, 1280x1294px

>>385704351
XENOBLADE 2

>>385704456
>Switch
No.

>>385703359
What the fuck are you even trying to say?

File: 1500289773849.jpg (61KB, 482x427px) Image search: [Google]

61KB, 482x427px

>>385703319
My eyes say "cute" but my brain says "It probably has a dick".

You don't know when they're real women anymore. I hate faggots so much.

File: 1353609984060.jpg (86KB, 637x469px) Image search: [Google]

86KB, 637x469px

Name one good game on PC that came out in the last 6 years that wasn't bugged at launch and had a functional multiplayer.

>>385704628
Overwatch
Gigantic
Titanfall 2
Unreal Tournament
DOOM

>>385704557
>>Switch
Yes.

>>385703319
Nah. It's a lot more expensive and everything has been done to exhaustion now.

>>385704604
Im sure thats a girl anon

>>385704717
i'll give you Doom and Unreal, but the others i've never even heard of.
Overwatch is not good.

>>385703319
Who s this qt

>>385704604
>You don't know when they're real women anymore
Maybe if you're a retard

File: 1501336519330.gif (3MB, 250x250px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 250x250px

>>385704908

>$60 games in the 90s is more expensive than $60 in 2017
>$300+ consoles in the 90s is more expensive than $400 in 2017
>Inflation


>A lot more expensive

>>385705265
cute doggo

>>385704294
Shadow of the Collosus
Dark souls
>BUT I HATE THOSE
and the next guy hates mario 64
Back then there weren't that many good games, so the good ones would be held in the light for ever.
These days there are so many good games that you get used to them.

>>385705265
Dumb dog

>>385705265
a $60 game in the 90s did not cost nearly as much as it does now to produce

File: 1494822577279.png (575KB, 1299x892px) Image search: [Google]

575KB, 1299x892px

dont ever post her again, or I'll report you to her father.

File: tfwsomeonetakesthebait.gif (2MB, 420x275px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 420x275px

>>385703319
They're only better if you have no prior experience with games. for the causal player gaming is amazing, but for oldfags like us it's ass.

>>385705112
Titanfall 2 is really good, it just got overshadowed by shitty battlefield 1

>>385704604
Its a her, but a crazy drug addict her, you're better off thinking its something you don't want.

>>385705265
I wish I had a big doggo. My grandmother use to have a black lab who was the best doggo you could ask for.

>>385705426
>crazy drug addict her
What the fuck? She looked clean to me ;-;

>>385703319
It is. The standards are so high these days that people arent satisfied anymore.

>>385703319
Its about where you look.
Prove to me that, Enter the Gungeon and Hollow knight arent has good as Ocarina, mario 64 or Doom.
All of them are great bugless games with tight gameplay and interresting stories and lore.

How is it better now?

The only good games anymore are indie games. AAA games have been shit for years and AA games don't really exist anymore for some reason.

>>385705537
>people arent satisfied anymore
Doesn't stop them from gobbling down shit by the barrel.

>>385705834
Because indies now are just as good as AAA back then

>>385705829
>>385705841
>Indie games
They won't be remembered in 10 years time unlike OoT/Mario 64/Doom etc

I haven't played a game newer than 2012.

>>385705829
I mean, they're objectively not.

File: C__WvOrU0AgtqLz.jpg (122KB, 840x1200px) Image search: [Google]

122KB, 840x1200px

Average $60 Game today
>ten hour singleplayer
>multiplayer with five maps that get regularly played
>content that didn't make it to launch will late be sold as DLC
>some of this content will be locked on the disc
>have to always remain online connected to a company service even to play singleplayer
>you don't actually own the game, it can be invalidated at any time if you violate community guidelines or happen to have the wrong fucking luck during a wave of bans
>game will not be playable in the next generation of consoles unless you repurchase it from the online store
>also the technology push is hindered by companies firing devs and hiring cosplayers and bloggers randomly to meet quotas

>>385705889
Yes because Doom Oot and mario are made by big companies (well except doom) in a time when all other games where shit

>>385706000
>objectively
Care to explain? Objectively is such a stupid thing to say on a subjectieve subject that is games.

>>385703319
Yeah we have great emulators and steam/gog/etc. to play older games, which were better than the trash nowadays.

>>385706030
No, because those games did things that cause people to remember them, either revolutionize shooters, platforms, action-adventure games.

I can't really think of any indy games that revolutionize their genre

>>385705889
Who cares if they are remembered, the average normie will look back on Skyrim in 10 years with nostalgia. Fuckin Skyrim will have the same status as those games.

Gaming is objectively better now.
All the good games from the past still exist in addition to good newer games.
The old classics are cheaper now then they've ever been.

>>385703319
It has its ups and downs. Overall it's probably better, sure. It sure has been streamlined/casualized in a crap ton of ways though. This whole business these days about "never having a game over" is honestly just boring as crap to me.

>>385706154
>who cares if they are remembered
It's a mark of a good game
Nonsense normie comment, Skyrim will be forgotten when TES6 comes out

>>385703319
Well duh
>can play any older game that was released up to this day
>new games are coming out

>>385706147
Yes, so basically your old game is better because it came first, not because their better games. You wanna know what thats called, nostalgia.

>>385706010
Average $60 game 15 years ago
>six hour singeplayer
>full of bugs that won't ever be fixed

>>385703319
Depends on the genre.

>>385706250
>Your old game is better because it revolutionise genres instead of pandering to trends and scenes
FTFY

File: it's free real estate.gif (499KB, 400x290px) Image search: [Google]

499KB, 400x290px

>>385703319
It's better now than it's ever been only because we have all the good games in the past to play.

If it was 1975 we'd have to wait 30 years for something like Monster Hunter to come out and all we'd have to play in the meantime is Pong.

Instead, it's 2017, and there are dozens of versions of Pong and Monster Hunter just a few clicks away.

>>385705265
Were paid online and microtransactions the same price back then too? You fucking retard.

>>385706461

No but expansions were more expensive too friend.

>>385706498
But also added more to the game, retard.

>>385706371
No, just because its revolutionary doesnt mean its better then very refined games today. Look back on wolfenstein, the level desgin and overall look was horrible. The original doom is WAY worse then Doom 2. Indies these days do just as much if not more then them because they are refined from them.

>>385703319
What the fuck happened to her? She looks like a cow now

File: w4_box_usa_front.jpg (446KB, 1642x1200px) Image search: [Google]

446KB, 1642x1200px

>>385703319
How is that possible when this is still the best game ever made?

>>385703359
You're an idiot.

>>385703319
I agree, now you can pirate way more easily

>>385706569
>just because they changed gaming forever doesn't mean its better than [trendy/scenic/it'sgoodbecause1guymadeit] game
lol no

>>385705335
>back then there weren't that many good games
>these days there are so many good games

I will just assume that this is either bait or that you are underage b&

>>385706674
>maek fire best technology forever because it revolutionized technology!
Your argument a shit

>>385703319
This is true. We have mediocre>great AAA titles and budget titles and indie games are better than ever and appeal to specific markets, ie: I fucking hated Castlevania Lords of Shadow, but this indie game calles Dust An Elysian Take scratched that itch and removed the bad taste LOS left me.

>>385705335
SotC did not come out last year, dum-dum.

>>385706715
But he's right
The industry has massively increased in size while the proportion of good to shit games has stood about the same
Thus nowadays there's more good games than back then

There are some really good, big budget games coming out, no doubt.

And it's probably more popular than ever, a lot more mainstream.

There are a lot more smaller devs who have a platform to launch their games and find success.

However dev cost is spiraling and nobody is brave enough to price games above $60 which is why you're seeing all these shitty DLC practices to make up the cost.

We're in a situation where you can pay $60 for a game and still be plastered with micro transactions, years ago this would have been met with outrage.

Gamers are the perfect demographic for such practices since so many players have little self control, a high percentage of people with autism/asbergers/ADHD play video games, lonely neckbeards with nothing else to spend their money on etc

And now you have devs who are still working on their (fully priced) game in alpha and trying to charge people for loot boxes and keys, which is basically gambling for kids. It's disgusting

>>385706743
>caveman analogy
lol no

>>385703319
Is he a trap?

>>385706803
Not him but there are LESS games today and of LESSER quality

>>385706674
If you look at the games them self instead of their impact you would see that indies now are just as good as old games. The way you look at it is unfair because ofcourse old things have more impact then new things. If you look at it that way Pong and Pacman are better then Doom because they had more impact on the market and inspired countless clones.

>>385706898
nah

>>385704351
Sonic Mania.

>>385704456
He asked for a good game.

>>385706794
>Last 20 years

>>385706918
>you would see that indies now are just as good as old games
You really fucking wouldn't

File: shrek12315415.jpg (6KB, 211x200px) Image search: [Google]

6KB, 211x200px

>look at any 'greatest games of all time list'
>barely any, if any, games from the 2010s are on there

>>385704351
Hellblade looks dope as fuck

>Gold Age of Gaming
3rd-4th Gen
>Silver Age of Gaming
5th-6th Gen
>DARK AGE OF GAMING
7th-8th Gen
Prove me wrong

>>385706664
On the PC maybe and even then you can't pirate new games.

Back then you could pirate easily even on consoles and new releases.

>>385706982
>I'm ignorant and think indies are all Gone Home
ok

>>385706997
This is 10x more true if you did a Western only list
Japan is still picking up our slack

>>385707063
Name an indie game that would make top 5 of its respective genre.

>>385706982
>Ignore the rest of my argument.
>Doesnt give an argument of his own
Gungeon has great combat. Its fast, has good depth, its replayable, has good enemy and room desgin even though its randomised, it has a dope soundtrack and a cute little story.

File: varg-vikernes.jpg (70KB, 700x426px) Image search: [Google]

70KB, 700x426px

>>385707025
You are wrong.

>>385707148
Dwarf Fortress
Factorio
Killing Floor
Terraria
Darkest Dungeon

>>385706267
Things were already going to shit by 2002

>>385707338
>Dwarf Fortress
>an 11 year old game
Thanks for proving my point. Games were better last decade and beyond.

File: 1472073101770.jpg (105KB, 599x835px) Image search: [Google]

105KB, 599x835px

Name two modern videogames that have substance and are a meaningful addition to our lives.

>>385704628
Tekken 7 worked flawlessly at launch on PC

>>385707410
I know your attentian span is quite limited but that's exceptional even for you, adhd-kun

>>385707410
>cherrypicking

>>385707221
>>385707148
Gungeon in bullethell rougelike combination
Isaac in rougelikes in genral
If you deny Isaac as a top 5 rougelike you are lying to your self. And if I use your logic it revitalised its genre so it made a huge impact.

And how could I forget minecraft, the game that used to be our game, and made randomisation a big thing, it dare I say revolutionized gaming.

>>385707148
Minecraft made a genre

>>385703319
technically, this is true.

>>385707509
>>385707550
>post wrong information
>get called out
It's funny how worse gaming has gotten now isn't it

>>385707718
Just ignore me the guy making arguments
>>385707619
>>385707563
How can you argue with minecraft, its basically one of the most influential games ever and it used to be /ourgame/

>>385704628
dead space 2

>>385707718
>tfw will never be a miserable fag with shit taste
Feels good, man
Enjoy your nogaems while I'm off playing the best management/city building game in forever

>>385707718
You're not even consistent in your shit since you asked for an indie game that's the best in the genre, and not one that came out in the last years

>>385707850
>Minecraft
Hahaha

>>385706963
>that have come out in the last year
>that will have the same status after 20 years
Your reading comprehension is shit.

File: brother laughing.gif (2MB, 400x225px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 400x225px

>there are people that UNIRONICALLY think games have not gotten worse

>>385707940
What an argument. Also new fags leave because minecraft was our game

>>385707919
>You're not even consistent
How so?
>Gaming is better now!
>How so?
>Indie games!
>An example please?
>11 year old game!
>GAMING IS BETTER NOW!

>>385707992
>Medium has significantly lowered quality now that the mainstream audience has gotten to them.
>Surprised that the mainstream don't think games aren't worse now than before when they didn't appeal to them back then.
Come on, it's really simple.

>>385708013
Here, let me quote the conversation directly since I udnerstand that it happened more than 5 minutes ago and thus escaped your mind already

>you would see that indies now are just as good as old games
You really fucking wouldn't
Aka you're saying that indie games are no good

>>I'm ignorant and think indies are all Gone Home
My response to your bullshit claim

>Name an indie game that would make top 5 of its respective genre.
Questioning the legitimacy of indie games in general

>Dwarf Fortress
>Factorio
[...]

List of good indie games, some of which are recent and some of which are not, which does not matter because you were questioning indies in general

And the rest is you being a stupid mouthbreather who can't follow conversations
Fuck off, retard

>>385708046
i suppose i thought that people on /v/ actually played vidya for a long time but haha guess not

>>385708046
How is Gungeon mechanlly worse then Doom?? Explain it dont give me a "Just because awnser"

>>385703319
That'd be dumb and only a an underaged would believe that.

>>385708168
>Aka you're saying that indie games are no good
But that's true? You could only bring up an 11 year old game as an example

>>385708179
/v/ is waaay more popular nowadays than it used to be. While /v/ used to be the unpopular contrarian spot where people who, gasp, actually PLAY a huge variety of videogames instead of just flavor of the month garbage and what's popular now, it's gained much more traction over the years. I personally don't know of any sites that had the same type of charm or individuality that old /v/ did, but it's fine.

>>385708186
Why are you responding to me? I never had any beef with gungeon, I personally think it's really slow, has bad art direction, has bad sound direction, and lacks a lot of polish and charm, while also not doing anything that actually took as much effort as Doom, but that's irrelevant.

>>385708298
PLEASE READ MORE THEN ONE YOU ADD KID
Minecraft
Hollow knight
Gungeon
Salt&Sanctuary

>>385708321
Oh and Gungeon isn't open-source either. That's another big thing it has against it.

>>385704717
>Overwatch
>Gigantic
>Titanfall 2

He said good game.

>>385707862
Older than 6 years.

>>385708298
Despite what your attention disorder mind had you believe, the list actually continued after the first entry
It must be hard suffering from such a clippling affliction, but please restrain yourself from posting on your favourite shitposting board in the future, it really diminishes the experience for everyone else

>>385708404
So you can't actually name 5?
Sad.
>Minecraft
Hahaha

File: img000009.png (200KB, 748x1200px) Image search: [Google]

200KB, 748x1200px

Bethesda Fallout, Elder Scrolls release
>the graphics will be from the previous console generation
>riddled with glitches in gameplay, mechanics and visuals varying from "wow that was weird" to "game's fucking unplayable"
>RPG """"story"""" is a blob of shitty cliches with characters not making any sense and grand threats that don't change a thing win or lose
>alright to boring music
>combat ranges from abominable to mediocre
>skills vary from combat-based to boring minigames or junk collector
>weapons and armor aesthetically ugly
>but they don't feel the need to improve on any aspect because they know they'll sell millions of copies just on the IP and shill critics will jump on the succwagon and that any issues they have will be repaired by some skeleton in a basement somewhere for free and you can release cut content as DLC and resell the game a year later with some of the DLC and then resell it again with an HD reskin
>AND YOU'LL BUY IT

>>385708426
>the list actually continued after the first entry (for four games)
But I asked for five games anon.

>>385708404
Hollow Knight is alright but the rest of those suck.

>>385708547
This. These lists are only proving him right

>>385703319
Why am I playing Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake right now then?

>>385708609
Because OP is wrong

>>385703319
I considered it, and I found it to only be a half truth.

Not as long as the sjw threat exist. Why don't we simply gas them? They're not even humans anymore

>>385703319
Gaming isn't necessarily better or worse than it was previously, it's just different.

Nowadays there's PLENTY more options, and this is both good and bad. The good thing is that there's something for everyone, every little niche is appealed to, and if it's not yet, it likely will be sooner rather than later thanks to indie developers willing to try something too out there for larger companies.

The downside to more choice is that there are a lot of shitty options, horrendous games that are just shat out onto digital storefronts, and sometimes even physical ones.

There's more stuff for niche audiences, but at the same time, there's a lot more trash, as well.

>>385708714
Corporate shill "journalists", tasteless consumers and lowered industry standards are far worse than people offending you

File: okhand.jpg (17KB, 326x257px) Image search: [Google]

17KB, 326x257px

>>385704604
tfw bi and dicks don't bother me

File: 1361211427957.jpg (545KB, 1956x1872px) Image search: [Google]

545KB, 1956x1872px

>>385703319
Wrong you underage fucktard

>>385708421
dead space 2 came out in 2011
and that anon "that came out in the last 6 years"

File: Bioshock sucks u faggit a game from 2005 is better.jpg (744KB, 1032x1454px) Image search: [Google]

744KB, 1032x1454px

>>385708879
Post more old shit that was good and new shit that was bad

>>385708321
>Why are you responding to me? I never had any beef with gungeon, I personally think it's really slow, has bad art direction, has bad sound direction, and lacks a lot of polish and charm, while also not doing anything that actually took as much effort as Doom, but that's irrelevant
Unless you use a tripcode I dont know if you are the guy I started this post chain with.
Enter the Gungeon is fast, requires good timing and positioning like all bullethell games. Has a good replayablity and overall room desgin
Doom flawed classic. Its levels are near perfect and its fast as fuck. Sprinting should have been the base speed though with the sprint button slowing you down instead.
>>385708438
Binding of Isaac, Darkest Dungeon, Faeria, Factorio, Cave story, Spelunky, Super meat boy, Hyper light drifter, FTL

Also new fag go away minecraft used to be great

>>385708837
Those groups want to sell me something. By using my intelligence I can judge for myself if I want it or not.

Sjw will not rest until every single white straight and sane male is dead.

>>385708978
that anon said*

>>385708994
I dunno anon I think if you were to analyze gungeon pretty critically you'd find that it's nothing all that special. Though, considering you think the game is "fast" I doubt you have much experience with videogames in general.

>>385708879
Good thing you're basically impervious to bullets so all of that is pointless

File: 1501327525433.jpg (82KB, 800x596px) Image search: [Google]

82KB, 800x596px

>>385706562

>Costs more, adds more
>Costs less, adds less

I wonder who the retard is here?

>>385709058
Bullet hell games cant go at Dooms neckbreak speed

>>385709116
I wasn't even comparing it to doom, I was comparing it to other games of its genre, such as Nuclear Throne or Touhou.

>>385709072
>using slow mo
Lmao, I bet you also play games on easy

>>385703319
Wrong. Gaming was better when everything was novel, i.e. every halfway unique concept hadn't been re-hashed a thousand times. The games may have gotten better on a technical level, but the experience has gotten worse.

>>385709141
There, you just named 2 other good indies that actually go fast

>>385709197
Again I'm not that other guy and I never shat on indies in the slightest.

That being said I am of the opinion that most indies are incredibly derivative and tend to play the exact same from one another, which isn't very common for a lot of older games. Kirby, Mario, and Castlevania are all platformers but they're all extremely different and as a result, they're fun for people who even have experience in games. Most indie games tend to have this issue of trying to play it safe, or not experimenting with control schemes or movement styles, because they want to make something that everyone likes, while sacrificing any unique type of personality or character the product has, making it indistinguishable in the future and worthless.

>>385703319
Consider the following.

You are under the age of 23 and weren't around for the golden age.

File: tumblr_otwzjmrpb41sgzgnoo2_1280.jpg (233KB, 1280x1564px) Image search: [Google]

233KB, 1280x1564px

>>385709013
Don't worry anon
The silent majority of people are every day swinging far and away from the SJW/Politically-Correct hivemind with every passing excused act of violence, absurdity and abomination and we're going to hit the point in the next few years where the backlash will literally wipe these people from both the games industry and politics. I'm not talking hard-right or anything like that either. Moderates and even leftists are dislodging themselves from that "movement" and all its subgangs.

Videogames

I would agree, the bad part of gaming is just the more popular and AAA part, excellent games are being made that fly under the radar

>>385709502
>excellent games are being made that fly under the radar
Such as?

>>385703319
It's true

>>385709502
99% of those "excellent games" that fly under the radar tend to still be incredibly derivative and lack substance, they're just better than the average popular game, but worse than a lot of older games.

>>385709352
That can very well be true, but being not being remembered doesnt make them worse then Doom or OoT or mario 64. Its the same as saying CoD or battlefield are good because they are populair and CoD and battlefield will be remebered as well.

>>385709682
>Its the same as saying CoD or battlefield are good
No, no it's not

>>385709560
Look at all the indies allready said in the thread
Isaac, Nucleair throneroom, Gungeon, FTL, Super meat boy are just a few examples.

>>385709502
>unorginal throwbacks to older games made with "indie graphics" and typically worse than the games they're ripping off
>excellent games

>>385709842
lol

>>385709834
Explain why? Its hard arguing with someone who assumes I think the same as him

>>385709560
>>385709650
its a matter of taste of course but football manager games are at their best ever, endless skies is the best incarnation of the escape velocity-like, the new battletech game will be the most faithful representation of the tabletop, racing games are also at a peak, and fingers crossed there will be a true golden age of space games, which is currently experiencing a rennaisance

File: 1499274534802.jpg (21KB, 570x479px) Image search: [Google]

21KB, 570x479px

>>385706035
DELET

>>385709883
argument

>>385709682
Unpopular games that are actually good are remembered, anon.

By the mainstream? No, they don't care about videogames, but by people who are passionate about games? Of course. There are still people who talk about Killer 7, There are still people who talk about Majora's Mask, there are still people who talk about Okami, there are still people who talk about Super Metroid, there are still plenty of "unpopular" games that have stood the test of time because they excel in the medium, and they tend to do that by being creative, original, and take risks.

There are very few games that actually play like Ocarina of Time or Mario 64, and those that do, when compared critically, tend to fall behind on the design department.

Also, many modern games are close-sourced, one of Doom's biggest strengths is that it was completely open-ended, people can make the most creative mods out of the engine and that's okay. There are tons of retail games that are Doom clones, like Hexen.

>>385709936
I dunno anon those games don't seem to have much substance whatsoever.

>>385708421
>TitanFall2
>Bad
Nice bait

>>385709936
>football manager game
>game
lol

>Gaming is better than ever!
>Why?
>Indieshie (minecraft etc) and Football Manager!

Back in the day a 6/10 or even 5/10 could be a nice experience. Games felt more imaginative. Take Doshin the Giant for example. Not a good game per se, but it was so special that the experience became good.

You're correct, but only because I have a computer that can emulate PS2 games at better resolutions than the actual console could handle.

>>385710029
People still talk about super meat boy, Dwarf fortress, Minecraft and I assume people will keep talking about TF2, Half life, Portal, Dark souls and the modern Zelda's.

>>385704351
Name ONE good game for each year between 1980 and 2005.

only thing that's gotten better is control and handling. games are worse in general.

>>385710185
>gaming is better than ever because i can play 15 year old games in better quality
huh

>>385710328
How could I forget the modern Fallouts and Elders scrolls aswell as the Witcher games.

File: 1501239458992.png (62KB, 184x184px) Image search: [Google]

62KB, 184x184px

It is. But you got to act "le jaded tired gameur" here to fit in

>>385710328
I guess we're both guilty for talking generally, but nobody really talks about Super Meat Boy anymore. It added nothing to the genre, it was a flavor of the month for it's time, it didn't have any substance, there's no real reason to play it today, and it's not that well-designed of a game either. There's no real talking points about that game other than "here's what it did right" and "here's what it did wrong."

>>385710441

Yes because those 15 year old games are better than Uncharted 4 or whatever shitty games you like to play, and right now I can play those games in an even more pleasing state than before, raising their worth even higher.

>>385710505
>People dont talk about super meat boy
I honestly see it come up a lot on youtube

File: Bioshock and halflife 2.jpg (374KB, 1032x1441px) Image search: [Google]

374KB, 1032x1441px

>>385705384
This so much

>>385709352
You haven't played very many indie games, and you barely have played any old games. You lack experience and knowledge and are, as such, unqualified to partake in this discussion. Remove yourself and go play some fucking video games.

>>385710790
This image always bothered me because it's just there to shit on Bioshock Infinite rather than make any valid point. Both intro sequences completely lack agency because your choices don't fucking matter, and in the latter example the only actual difference is that you can be a retard and fall off in HL2, it doesn't really enhance the situation it just means that if I decide I want to kill myself and reload then I can. Once again, the agency is illusory. Whoever made this image didn't really understand what the fuck agency is or what it means in a video game.

i don't know about gaming in general, but modern game design especially went to shit for pandering to the masses. Nowadays people want their open worlds and freedom but they don't wanna backtrack they just wanna spam the fast-travel button and be done with it, they wanna slay demons and dragons but they don't want it to be too hard, they wanna go on epic adventures but they don't wanna use their brain to solve things they just want the solutions spelled out to them in their fancy compasses and questlogs, and the devs are pandering to these filthy casuls, back then you earned your gratification, now it's spoonfed to you freely.

nah, AAA gaming killed creativity, developers are lazier than ever and games buggier than ever because of it

>>385703319
Millennial

If you seriously think gaming is good, you need to relocate
>>>/r/gaming

>>385704351
Wolfenstein new colossus.

Objectively true when all the games made in the past still exist. However, saying that the quality or quantity is anywhere near to the level it was 20 years ago is blatantly untrue with gaming getting caught by a vicious Hollywood syndrome of over-reliance on sequels and reboots to minimize risk.

File: be1.png (250KB, 800x562px) Image search: [Google]

250KB, 800x562px

>>385704604

>>385708787
No, Fuck you! I guess people like you don't play the same niches that I do, but this is getting out of hand. Companies like beamdog is buying up old pcgames and changing them and then reselling them, you can no longer buy Baldur's gate 1 and 2 on gog, only after community complaints did they put them back, as a bonus if you buy beamdogs shit. I got BG EE on steam and thought the updated controls and resolution was okay but as time went on they made so many stupid changes. The journal now looks like a mmorpg journal, some things are just amateurish like your inventory cursor picking up items on the pixel you pressed on, so if you press the corner of a sprite you try to pick up it will not be picked up in a standard way but instead hover above the cursor.
I didn't care about all the games that came out, like overwatch and call of duty, but when companies like bethesda and beamdog ruin the franchises both the new and old entries then I can't just sit back. Seriously death to you faggot casuals and your "outdated" mechanincs

>>385711380
Would you prefer some comparisons between Fallout 1,2 and NV to Bethesdas fallouts?
Or maybe compare systemshock 2 and Bioshock to Infinity?

File: 1492095093115.jpg (3MB, 5000x2922px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 5000x2922px

>>385710341
Not gonna spoon-feed you anon and try to write out 25 games only for you to tell me that you don't like half of them, but here's the best PC games from 1990 to 2010. That's not even COUNTING console games, which all have great games as well (Zelda, Mario, Final Fantasy, etc.)

>>385708987
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_u18_BKczg

>>385705265
back then: $60 base game which is not missing content, maybe $20-$30 expansion which adds a buttload of content

now: $60-$70 base game, which is missing content, $60-$100 DLC (summed up), season passes, microtransactions, paid online (if you're on consoles)

>b-but nobody is forcing you to buy the extra shit
eat a dick

>>385707025
You are right.

File: PyreHeader-700x967[1].jpg (126KB, 700x967px) Image search: [Google]

126KB, 700x967px

Great games are being released all the time.

>>385704351
Cuphead

>>385714837

Did you buy all the persona 5 dlc anon?

File: 1485870642679.png (30KB, 407x167px) Image search: [Google]

30KB, 407x167px

>>385703319
how?

>>385707009
cinematic """game"""

its more polished but a lot less interesting. I swear nearly very game is an open world FPS with some rpg elements.

It's only logical that gaming is at its best. We still have all the old games that were great, whatever the current state of the industry. In addition to this, new games in the last dark period we went through weren't entirely awful, so you have a few every year added to the list of games worth playing, at least. Furthermore we seemed to have turned a corner with Japs figuring out HD development and putting out decent stuff instead of fucking about solely with mobile shit and pachinko machines while western devs like Bethesda are putting out things like DOOM's single player campaigns which are at the very least, acceptable. In summation, as long as you are still able to play the truly fantastic games of the past and with things looking up a bit this year then yes, gaming is the best it has ever been.

File: eliza.webm (997KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]

997KB, 1280x720px

>>385703319
How do you get an Eliza gf, /v/?

>>385716505
>black girlfriend

dropped 100% coal burner

File: 1470797073687.webm (389KB, 270x480px) Image search: [Google]

389KB, 270x480px

>>385716570
good thing I'm nonwhite then.

File: 1501307434308.jpg (18KB, 467x125px) Image search: [Google]

18KB, 467x125px

>>385715542

>>385716656
>smoking

File: four horsemen of vee.png (349KB, 561x568px) Image search: [Google]

349KB, 561x568px

>>385715542
how?

>>385707418
Soma & Monsumu Quest

>>385704351
How the fuck am I supposed to know if it's good if it hasn't even been released yet?

>>385703319
In a sense, since you can play literally every game ever made. However game design philosophy has really gone to casualised and cinematic poop.

>>385716759
What is number 1 repost?

>>385704351
La Mulana 2.

cough

>>385703319
I understand what people are trying to say when they talk about gaming being better or worse than some other time in the past, but I can't help but feel it's an entirely pointless exercise. To me, gaming gets pretty much linearly better with time as I can still play pretty much any old game I'd want, but there are also new games I'm interested coming out every so often. Maybe once I've finished every good game from the past I'll start thinking like OP and his likes do, but that's physically impossible so I don't need to worry about it.

File: 1494296965818.jpg (383KB, 709x1002px) Image search: [Google]

383KB, 709x1002px

>>385703319
I agree.

Gaming's never been more diverse. There's no longer the feeling that "Mobile games are gonna take over everything" or "Walking sims are gonna take over everything".

There's so many different games for everyone, that it's starting to rival music as a medium. Nobody really spends their time complaining about certain music genres, they just don't listen to them and stick to their own. It's the same stuff with games... Especially now that Japanese games are BACK.

>>385704628
>still believes in the waterfall model

It's called Agile development, gramps. Get with the times.

It's true
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7Lv7l4UQm4&t=5s

>>385706394
This

>>385704294
No Man's Sky

>>385707148
The Forest
Chivalry
Stardew Valley

>>385703359
see, you gotta simmer those games real slow.

>>385711380
>shitting on bioshock infinite
>bad

seriously anon?