This is the best game of all time. No excuse.

>>385677586
Doom 2 is better

That's not FFVII.

Shit controls
No vertical aim
No vertical movement
Slow braindead enemies
Repetitive environments
HUD t as kes 20% of the screen
Weapons sound like shit
Simple braindead gameplay with no depth

>>385677886
was there ever a more overrated game?

OoT I can understand, but this...

>>385678019
18+

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>>385678019
>played doom when his reddit friends suggested it in 2015
>"I dont get it"

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>>385677586
>lose your weapons everytime you die
No. This was bullshit. I prefer Ultimate Doom because there you can just save at the beginning of the level and load up that save everytime you die

>>385678298
Any map was possible without weapons, except for maybe e4m2. Even then, I'm sure someone could still do it.

>>385677586
Yes it is

>>385678160
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>>385678297
Not a argument

Duke3d is a straight upgrade.

>>385678298
There's a reason Quake got rid of pistol (shotgun) starts on death.

>>385679151
Explain your ignorance, then.

>Doom"guy"
>Gender identity is never even explored but people just make assumptions anyway

>>385678019
When keeping it ayy goes lmao: The Post

>>385677620
Kill yourself

>>385677586
>FPS where you don't really even aim
>the best game of all time
pick one.

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>>385679151
the lack of vertical aim is so you can move fast and the game has some of the best level design in gaming history along with great enemy designs
it's also the most influential game of all time in terms of moddability
the enemies make up for being stupid by being well placed in the levels and for 1993 it wasn't horrible AI
the HUD in Doom has some great facial expressions

>>385679370
Ignorant about about? Its a shit outdated game

>>385677620
Final Doom best.
>That Map 10 soundtrack

>>385677586
i like the new doom better

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DOOM > DOOM

>>385679963
>FPS games should be about killing your enemies with precision
no Doom is great because you can move fast and kill enemies even faster

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>>385680308
Anon, please.

>>385680348
Except you don't move fast unless you use a source port

>>385680589
is that true?

>>385680630
No.

>>385680630
Find some old ass footage

https://youtu.be/jP2jI0BVG0w

>>385680630
No, he's literally too stupid to hold the sprint button. See >>385680873 for example, dude doesn't even touch shift.

>>385680072
Hush, child.

>>385680873
>Didn't use mouse, even though it was supported even in DOS.
>Didn't hit the run key, or bound the run key to toggle in CONFIG.EXE

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>>385677620
>trash level design
>better

Doom 2 feels like a glorified community map pack for Doom than a worthy sequel, only thing that redeems it from being shit is the double barreled shotgun.

>>385681323
and the new monsters

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>>385679501
Gender: skelegender, identifies as a skeleton
Pronouns: Bone, Boneself, AAAAAA

>>385678019
Responsive, simple controls will NEVER be shit.
Not needed
Literally not needed, maps have decent verticality.
Memorable, Never get stuck and are challenging enough
False, enviroments change with every chapter, something Doom 2 misses.
You can adjust the fucking hud size
Weapons sound great
Level design has good complexity into it, learn what depth in a shooter means, autist.

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LOL

>>385677586
plz!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdfRQjb5o9k

>>385678019
(You)

>>385681004
>>385681261
Not a argument

>>385681371
Yeah, revenant and mancubus are good i guess, but they could have done better, they could have added new bosses as well.

>>385677586
If we're talking about vanilla Doom, I can't say I agree. I love Doom, but the game really takes a dive in quality once you reach Hell. The Hell levels are just boring and are not as exciting or interesting as the previous levels, which doesn't make much sense since you'd imagine Hell being the most exciting part of the game.

>>385681790
And you're not looking for one, so hush.

>>385677586
2016 is better though

>>385681516
I don't get why people get so afraid of those skeletons. The real menace in Doom is the Fire Man. Can't tell you the amount of times I've shat my pants when I see them trying to summon fire onto me, or glitch the game out and resurrect immortal enemies.

>>385679151
You did not provide any in the first place, so fuck off, retard.

Yes, it is the best game of all time but for what it accomplished in the industry and its legacy, as well as the impact and origniality it held during its age.
People need to understand that to define "the best game of all time" you have to look further from the gameplay.
If we are talking about the game itself, other retro fps like Duke Nukem 3D, Samurai Warrior and Blood are equal contenders.

>>385678298
Was saving at the beginning of each level and loading if you died considered legitimate instead of the pistol only start? Or is that considered cheesing it?

>>385677620
Mater levels for Doom 2 > Doom 2

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>>385681869
Yeah what's so scary about Rev-

>>385679709
Doom 2016 was so progressive, they just called him "Doom Marine"

>>385681839
Cause you cant make one, ii mean you retards are literally defending the ability to not look up

>>385681904
See
>>385678019

>>385681912
If we're talking strictly the game and not the impact or significance, Duke 3D, Shadow Warrior DOOM 2, and 64 are all straight upgrades.

half life is better though doom is really good

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>>385681869
Gender: Flame Guy, identifies as a guy with flame hands.
Pronouns: Shwoosh, Boomself, *unintelligible warbling*

Before you ask the webm is from a mod some guy on /vr/ made it's just the first archvile one I could find.

>>385681979
>Objective: Kill Olivia Pierce
Uuh the game encourages violence against women. Take your shit back to /pol/

>>385678298
You can do that in any version of Doom, m8. The only substantial difference between original Doom and Ultimate Doom is the extra episode, so yes Ultimatre is the best but your reason is just plain wackadoo.

>>385682023
The mod is called babel, I believe, I'm not sure if he's doing anything more with it, his fear system was really novel

>>385681869
Because spooky skeletons are a meme.

>>385682139
Yeah I dunno I think he just kinda gave up because nobody really responded, same with the Nevermore guy who was posting around the same time. Shame because Nevermore was some dope-ass shit.

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>>385681963
>>385682023

>>385682223
I've learned firsthand that just because you don't get (you)s for your mod progress, it shouldn't mean you quit. If you want to make something you think is cool, that alone should be your drive.

>>385682306
>>385682223
>>385682139
>>385682023
https://mega.nz/#F!6wdFmCBQ!3SzvCkgkAbTLVEpPsJgMEQ
I didn't give up, I got a job IRL and stopped posting on /vr/ about it since nobody there gave two shits.

>>385682306
Yeah I agree, nobody's going to pay attention until you've done something great, so you shouldn't need attention to do great things.

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>>385682003
Exactly, there will always be (or as far as how the gaming industry has developed in our lifetimes) straight upgrades of the games we've already played. According to this principle, we cannot even define which is the best, since it will eventually be surpassed by better technologies.
Since then, I prefer to define what makes a game "the best of all time" by evaluating three important points:
-The extension of its gameplay (mechanics, map design, customizing, extra content, difficulty, etc.)
-The social impact during its apogee
-Technological innovation; setting a new bar or standard for the industry

The first games that come to mind to achieve this historically are Super Mario 64 and DOOM

>>385682306
90 percent of the shit I do is for (you)s. I'm trying to sculpt toys now, and i usually lose motivation in between stages unless my progress pictures get a fresh (you). (you)s keep me drawing too. (you)s are life. (you)s give (you) purpose.

>>385682452
I cared. I didn't always respond, but I cared.
Did you make the plasma SMG yet?

>>385682846
Keegan you son of a bitch I made that shit 5ever ago it's in the folder man just download it aaaaaaaaaAAAAAA

>>385682887
Hot damn you made it, you absolute madman. It feels good to use too!

>>385683138
Yeah it's pretty great honestly, maybe a little on the weak side but since it recharges and all it's pretty good. Just keep it above 10 ammo and you won't be caught with your dick in your hands while it charges.
GMOTA when?

>>385682003
Not when they miss or fail to hit the mark on the one thing that made the original game great.

Level design is everything.

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>>385683263
Working on it, and you should keep posting progress even if you don't get (you)s, dude. You did a fine job of cleaning that sprite I gave you by the way.

>>385682452
/vr/ ALWAYS gives a shit about Doom. Go back to the Doom General and give us an update.

Anyone else play Demonsteele?

>>385683396
I'm still working on it but now I actually have a real job and a Star Ruler 2 mod too. In between all that it's going a bit slower than I'd like, though RC1 is reasonably done. Needs a rework for the Pain Elemental but aside from that it's good.
>>385683408
I think I'll wait until I have an actually finished release.

>>385683593
Fuck yeah, it's great fun on slaughter-y maps.

>>385677586
its a shitty rip off of Chex Quest

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>>385683593
Yeah, I've had a lot of fun with it, the ice hammer and legion knives are FUN mode.

So what are the best megawads that aren't uber-difficulty shit? I know DTWID is one, but are there more like that?

>>385684728
Tbh I like playing wads based off of movies and shows, and other games.
The ghostbusters one was fun, but unfortunately was never finished. You get as far as the hotel and the elevator meant to take you to the next level won't work properly.

>>385684007
Fuckin' ay. I love its emphasis on not getting damaged. VERY reminiscent of Devil May Cry, with a shitton of challenge, reward, and adrenaline rushing moments.
>>385684271
Ice hammer's good for clearing rooms for sure.

>>385678509
E4M2 was EASIER with pistol start, because at the end of E4M1, you have little health left, but with pistol start, you get full health back.