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Does dragon quest xi really look this good on the ps4 or are those pics and promotional videos just bullshit?
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Yes.
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>that IQ

I'd hope it looks AT LEAST this good
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>>385638406
> that
> good
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Can anyone confirm if this runs well on a regular PS4?
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>>385638406
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzg1i1r6zNs
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>>385638902
>>385638794
>being a memelord shitposter
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>>385638406
>might have to actually pick a PS4 soon
well here's hoping they won't announce a PC release or else I might blow my load for nothing
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>>385638406
Yeah looks solid. The DS version also doesn't look half bad.

Pretty hype for this one. Shame we'll never see X.
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>>385639068
>cheating in a piss easy DQ game
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Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy, Shin Megami Tensei, Fire Emblem, Dark Souls and Golden Sun are my favorite franchises.

But Dragon Quest wins, i don't know exactly what is it about Dragon Quest that makes me like it so much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myjd1MnZx5Y
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I only ever played VIII and IX, which one should I play next and which platform?
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>>385639315
It looks amazing for a 3ds but if you look at it objectively it's obviously so inferior to the ps4 it's barely a competition.

I'll post the same exact location in 3ds soon for comparison.
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>>385640161
Here, same place. Like I said it looks amazing for the 3ds and you can tell they went as far as they can go with it as opposed to just half assing.

If you ask me the only version that looks like they didn't put too much thought into was the 2d one.
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>>385640132

DQIV & V are really good. I have not played the other games other than what you listed so can't comment.
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>>385640132
If you have a DS/3DS, you can play IV, V, VI. and VII.


Start with IV.
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>>385640257
Same place in the 2d version.
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>>385640282
>>385640347
Sweet, will try
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>>385640257
>>385640364
How does this work on the 3DS?
From the church it looks like it takes at least 10 seconds to get to where you are standing on the 3D version.

But on 2D it literally looks like 2 seconds of walking.
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>>385640364
Problem with 2D is that it's missing so many small details. Like your mom gives you a hug, in the 2D she just stands there. For me, nostalgia only works if it's actually a game I played when I was a kid
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I don't know why you'd consider this a bullshot. It looks like DQ8 on PCSX2, except with more grass.
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>>385638406

I just read an article that the Nintendo Switch version will be similar to the ps4 one. I can't fucking wait for this to release in NA. 100% getting this for the switch, perfect game for it. Once you have a switch... you realize how much nicer it is to be able to play on your tv and on the go. (That's if you actually do things.) I play my switch at work when I have time... so its perfect or even just in my bed its amazing... don't always got to chill on the couch.
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>>385640161
its funny

this was the same shit that happened when DQ8 PS2 hit. amazing graphics and shit for a series that was beforehand 2D
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>>385640761
You have to be fucking blind or a shitposter to have this kind of opinion. DQ11 on PS4 has tons more geometry and texture detail than DQ8. DQ8 is actually very comparable to the 3DS version. It's at least much closer than it is to the PS4 version.
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>>385638406
>good
Nani?
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>>385640161
That shit is almost ten times the resolution of>>385640257
TEN

TIMES
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>>385640607
They are completely different versions. You can only change between them at the saving menu inside a church. The only part where you get both at the same time (one in each screen) for LIVE comparison is at the start, and then it seems to convert equally.

I guess after the part where you have to chose 1 or the other they stopped caring about 100% equal conversion.
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>>385640921
Well, you'd also need to be blind or a shitposter to claim OP pic looks good enough to be unrealistic on modern hardware.
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>>385640980
>I guess after the part where you have to chose 1 or the other they stopped caring about 100% equal conversion.
That and people would want to play 2D on the main screen
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>>385638406
>looks like a PS2 game
>good
LOL
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>>385639239
very doubtful they'll do a pc release

if they were going to, they'd have done a builders port already seeing how it's a minecraft clone
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>>385640963
The ps4 picture is upscaled, obviously. You should know that. The game is not actually played in that res.

Also a lot of shit factor in. The ps4 is played on a huge screen in your living room while the 3ds is obviously on a much smaller screen to be played lying down in bed or outside if you are not a /v/ neckbeard or if you live in a place where it's acceptable like Japan.

People have grown too used to blindly defaulting to shitty console warrior mode as opposed to actually using their heads.
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I WANT IT ALREADY

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>385638406
>new games became so washed out that more colors means better graphics
this industry has decayed
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>>385640364
>>385640257
3DS version looks way cooler to me for some reason
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So has it been confirmed that the 3DS one is the same story?
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>>385641256
>looks like a PS2 game
LOL
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>>385641405
yes

Same story,script,characters etc. It just has a different art style and its animated different obviously
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>>385641478
>replying to shitposters with low quality baits
You were supposed to be better than this senpai.
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how many swords are in this game DQVIII was great but had so little in terms of weapon variety
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>>385638406
purely graphically speaking there is literally nothing special in that screen.

I think people mistake appealing toriyama designs with great grafics.
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>>385641510
>>385641405
PS4 has extra mini games, like horse racing and something else I can't remember

3DS has the 2D mode
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>>385641602
So far I have found 6 swords
So there are 6
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>>385641268
you make a good point but they still released Heroes 1 and 2 there though. That being said I have no idea how SE's decide what gets to be on PC or not
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>>385641478
thats the upressed emulated version at that lol
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>>385641657
how late in the game
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>Hori wanted to make his first HD DQ
>Square jumped in and told him to make a 3DS version too because they knew it wouldnt do well

really makes me think
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>>385641819
if they got the budget its not a bad idea at all.
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>>385641675
Heroes were Koei musous

I'm not saying a port is impossible, just that I think DQB not getting ported makes it look unlikely
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>>385641646
3ds has some content where you get to go to locations of previous dragon quests or something

or so I hear
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So whats this one about, anyway?
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>>385641819
>knew it wouldnt do well
PS4 version had more pre-orders than the 3DS version
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>>385641478
Is this from the PS4 or PS2 game? I literally cannot tell the difference.
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>>385642057
at one retail chain in Japan

Whats your point?
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will we get heroes 3, I tink its my favorite spin off I just hope they can find characters for the first three games
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>>385642095
>one retail chain
Nope, it was also higher on the Amazon charts too
>in Japan
It's all in Japan you dingus
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>>385641602
there's a whole bunch that you can buy but if you wanna have the real shit you need to alchemy pot them up. reminds me back in the days where I had to print a whole gamefaqs guide
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>>385642057
>>385642201
What are you two even arguing about exactly?
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>>385642047
You are the hero and you save the world with your group of friends.
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>>385638406
Akira Toriyama is known for extremely stylized art style that always looks good.
tl;dr yes
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>>385641819

It's a case of hedging your bets, considering how many people own 3ds in japan. Also, the hardcore fans may buy the game twice.
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>>385642047
>you are a reincarnation of another hero of the past
>some kingdom saw this as fucking heresy and they're on to you

at least that's what I read
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>>385642286

Well, thats a new one.
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>>385642047

It's Dragon Quest. Don't expect anything out of the ordinary. This isn't FF.
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>>385642283
He said Square expected the PS4 version to flop in comparison to the 3DS version. I was telling him that the only figures we have at the minute (pre-orders), point to PS4 selling better.
I'm not arguing, just correcting him.
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I've always kind of wanted to try the dragon quest games. Do they all follow each other? Which ones should I start with/play?
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>>385640680
Yeah it really feels like it was the half asses version. The ps4 looks amazingly good if you are not a braindead shitposter, the 3ds looks amazing and it's clearly pushing the console as high as it can go, and then the 2d feels half assed.

But then again maybe it's half assed on purpose for extra nostalgia.
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>>385642365
>some kingdom saw this as fucking heresy and they're on to you
That part is kind of a spoiler so I'm sure some people will hate you.
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>>385641748
2 hours in
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>>385640963
It's actually closer to 20 times.

pixel doubling works in factors of 4, not 2.

2560 x 1440 has 4 times as many pixels as 1280 x 720 for example.

Twice as wide AND twice as tall.

Thus x4.
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>>385642286
what a twist
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>>385642450
VIII is easily the best way to start.
has stellar voice acting, amazing feel of adventure, goat soundtrack and story is also pretty good
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>>385642450

Nah, they're like Final Fantasy. Aside from some terms and monsters, each one is stand-alone.

The best ones for newbies are usually considered to be 4 5 or 6.
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>>385642620
Cool thanks
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>>385642057
Well people don't buy 3ds games anymore since piracy is so easy now.
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>>385642527
welp I hope they scrolled past my post then
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>>385642749
>pokemon sumo sold 15 million
Nah, 3DS is just owned by casuals, whereas people who bought a PS4 in Japan actually wanted JRPGs. In fact I wouldn't doubt if over a million PS4s sold just to play DQ11. It's been 13 years since a proper home console DQ
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>>385642749
Most nips are violently against piracy.

I get why, their developers still cater to them unlike the Western publishers favoring normies instead of actual hobbyists.
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>>385642909
>I wouldn't doubt if over a million PS4s sold just to play DQ11. It's been 13 years since a proper home console DQ
When DQH released, PS4 sold out across Japan. I'm not sure if it'll sell out again, but I guarantee it'll move a shit ton of units.
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>>385643045

Especially Nintendo. They fear piracy like cats fear water.
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>>385643150
That's pretty ironic considering the 3ds and wii u have both been pirated to death.
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>>385642749
yeah sure

in AMERICA

but they don't hack shit in japan
they are loyal as shit to consoles and shit
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>>385643150
I mean consumer nips, they don't pirate shit because they know that would turn the JP industry into the Western one, aka a normie catered fuckfest.
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>>385643291
>they are loyal as shit to consoles and shit
Wrong, they know that by supporting the current industry they're far less likely to cater to normies vs hobbyists/otaku.

They'd throw the industry under the bus at the first sign of normie catering.

Remember when DQ9 started as an ARPG?

2ch fucking EXPLODED in rage and Square was forced to completely restart development.

Nips are merely informed consumers.
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>>385643261
wii u
pirated to death

yeah, sure, when ALL the fucking hacks and shit happened in like fall of last year and when ANYONE cared because in March when fucking BotW hit and STILL wouldn't put a dent in fucking BotW sales overall.

who even fucking bought the game for wii u?

3ds is same shit, the only people who hacked it are people on /hbg/ and shit. like less than 0.0001% of people probably hack

fuck you assholes are stupid
there is no way to know who hacks, but we know that hacking
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>>385642450
They're all effectively independent, but some form an over arching story; I/II/II are a trilogy, and IV/V/VI are another trilogy.
Again, they're still mostly independent from one another.
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>>385643538
>first sign of normie catering

and yet, mother fucking mobile games!
that is the most normie shit on this planet
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>>385643632
>fuck you assholes are stupid
>there is no way to know who hacks, but we know that hacking
The irony in this failed statement is not lost on me friend.

You are also taking this shit too seriously, obviously I didn't actually mean to death. Have you been talking with people lately? Not everything is meant on the most literal way.
You can pirate on the 3ds and on the wii u easily, you can't do that on the ps4 or on the xbone or at least you not with anywhere near the same ease.
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>>385638406
>>385639047

It's out in Japan and there are multiple people streaming it if you actually wanted to know you fucking idiot.
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>>385638406
the world's pretty lifeless and lacking in interactivity, so it makes sense that it'd at least look good. Although look at the ground and rock textures, also the grass... They are almost PS2 tier assets.
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Is this game as big and long as DQ VIII?
Also what the fuck is with battle system I heard that it is turn based but I looked on the gameplay video and the player was running around during battle
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>>385643880
Actually wrong, that's mostly otaku catering.

There's A LOT of moe/cute girl mobiel games designed to get Otaku/Otakus parents money.

Normies don't really spend money in mobile games.
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>>385639981
If I wanna get into DQ what should I start with?
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>tfw best version of Dragon Quest 8 is stuck on ps2 and you can only choose between android and 3ds subpar versions
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>>385639981
Golden Sun sucks, man. It has an undeserved fame of being one of the besr RPGs and I don't get why.
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>>385640161
But 3DS version has a better battle system, so I'll get that version.

And the Switch one, ofc
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>>385638406

>nicely made world
>offputting out of place cartoony enemies clashing
>everyone still looks like DBZ rejects for no reason

Hmm...nah.
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>>385644139
Probably the same as DQ9 with player who run around the monsters between the turns just to make it a little more lively
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>>385644139
The running around is basically just camera control. It allows you to change how you view the battle.
It's still entirely turn based, don't worry.
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>>385644017
Xd bro you sure showed him KEKLMAO
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>>385644504
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>>385644139
You sure you didn't watch a DQX video?

PS4 and 3DS have different battle system but both are 100% turn based.
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>>385644320
>stuck on ps2
>stuck on the most popular console of all time that is also easily emulatable
???
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>>385644467
>3DS version has a better battle system
they're the same
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>>385644467
>But 3DS version has a better battle system
They both have the exact same battle system
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>>385642186
http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2016/12/13/dragon-quest-builders-2-director/

At the end of the article.

I think it's very likely we will get at least 1 more Builders and Heroes games.
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>>385643989
i can't tell your fucking shit like if your ironic or shit with just WORDS you stupid fuck!
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>>385644697
>PS4 and 3DD have different battle system
The only difference is that you can move your character around to change your viewpoint on PS4. Otherwise, battles are exactly the same.
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>>385644320
best version

with LESS content than PS2 version and can hack for original soundtrack and NA edits out

fucking dumbass

just be glad as SHIT we didn't get the OG jap PS2 version when we got the game originally with:

no voice acting
no orchestra soundtrack
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Does the switch version look okay ?
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>>385645254
it doesn't look like anything yet
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>>385645254
We don't know anything about the Switch version, other than it's in development.
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>>385644837
>>385644854
The 3DS have that system where you chose the actions of your entire party and the PS4 has the FFX system where you only do the action of a character per time.

It's almost the same, but 3DS has more uncertainity and requires more prediction.
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>>385645162
yeah I love playing my games at 240p
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>>385644467
Same battle system, 3DScuck.
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>>385645310
>>385645345
I wonder if it's gonna be the 3ds version with better graphics or the ps4 version with worse graphics.
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>>385644919
YES
Can't wait to play this in bed on Switch.
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>>385645541
Probably PS4 with worse graphics since it doesn't have the dualscreen
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>>385644914
thats great just hoping for some DQ1-3 reps just wonder who they could use when they said they won't use MCs
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>>385645541
It's 50/50 which way it'll go at this point.
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>>385644919
>no jiggle
D R O P P E D
R
O
P
P
E
D
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>>385644937
Calm your autism, remember to not behave like a monkey.
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>>385645541

>mfw the Switch could barely handle a PS3 game
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>>385645617
Dual screen is only used for map/menu outside of that one village where you have 3D/2D on each screen. So it's not like it's all that hard to work around.
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>>385639068
>that music
>that lack of VA still

Just fucking keep it 2d if you're going to keep everything but the graphics 2d
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>>385645531
>2017
>being so brain damaged that you are a console warrior and go around spitting shit like "console name"+cuck
You are such a disgrace to your family anon.
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>>385640161
>>385640257
I'm still surprised the team went out of their way to make sure there was PS4 and 3DS version of the game. Granted I started getting into DQ with IX, I'm guessing the series must have a pretty strong handheld following if they felt people would choose it over the PS4.
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This is the first game I've ever played where I actually like the crafting. It's more than just "put in ingredients and hit OK", even if it's a bit silly
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NEVER EVER OUTSIDE OF JAPAN
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>>385645843
Fuck off
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>>385645897
The 3DS was underpowed on release, with a worse resolution than the PSP release in 2004.

I have no issue with Nintendo, but the 3DS was their most gimped trash hardware to date, worse then the fucking repackaged Gamecube called the Wii.
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>>385645768
>mfw this guy talking out his ass.
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>>385645964
It's already been confirmed for a 2018 release in the West.
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>>385645957
So how is crafting like?
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>>385644303
Personally, i would say if you are already familiar with rpg's, start with the 3 remake on snes emulator, then play 4, 5, 7 and 8. 3ds is the way to go for all of them.
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>>385644017
Nobody fucking specifies if it's the standard PS4.
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>>385644303
Dragon Quest IV is the best place to start, even Hori said so.
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>>385644658
He did though.
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>>385639068
It looks gorgeous but yet there's something uncanny about it...
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>>385646046
It's well known the Heroes runs like shit on the Switch.
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>>385644303
There is no real continuity to worry with, playing them out of order doesn't really matter. If you don't like old games, start with DQ 4 then move up in order. You can also start with 8 but it may ruin the others for you. Otherwise, just play them all in order, can't go wrong.
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>>385638406
I don't see why it shouldn't, graphically-wise there's nothing too resource demaning.
The monsters and characters are detailed and smooth sure, but their artstyle is simple so there isn't much detail that could give trouble to performance.
It's a good example of simple yet charming graphics.
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>>385645345
>>385645310
Let's hope the switch ps4 and 3ds version will be out at the same time in America/Europe
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>>385646132
VI haters should be gassed.

Ashlynn remains the best party members in the series with one of the best stories.
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>>385646130
You put the ingredients onto this magic anvil looking thing. Then the weapon or armor you're making is separated into segments and you hammer each segment an amount of times. Each segment has a bar, and the idea is to get each bar into a sweet zone. Then when you get each bar where you want it, you finish and depending how close you got each bar, your weapon gets +1 or +2 or +3 (not sure how it goes)

So there's a degree of luck but it's very interactive
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>>385640257
Damn that actually looks really good, saying "hurr durr barely a competition" will coin you out as a fucking graphicsfag and should probably kill yourself.
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>>385645554
>>385645691

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAawRajFPVY
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>>385646336
I'd rather not. I just want them out as soon as localisation is done.
I don't want to them to delay it just to have a simultaneous launch with the Switch.
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So what's the new thing in this game? I mean they are all mostly the same but each entry usually adds some sort of new mechanic or feature.
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>>385646515
I just want to buy the switch version and not the 3ds version, it's more about me being weak willed than anything else
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>>385646550
Jumping, riding fallen enemies, free movement during battles
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>>385646550
Crafting and combo skills
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>>385639981
>i don't know exactly what is it about Dragon Quest that makes me like it so much.
Bcoz your a fucking hipster.
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>>385646550
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>>385646453
>That peacock
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>>385646550
Flying yaks
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>>385646359
>poor man's alena
>best
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>>385644919
>>385646453
How many costumes does she have?
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>>385646803
Nah, DQ has amazing music and artstyle.

No emo shit like in Final Fantasy.
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>>385641613
toriyama design was never good, tho
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>playing 8
>die to random mob getting crits out the fucking ass
>last time i saved was before the evil jessica fight
>lose 1-2 hours of progress

good game faggots
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>>385644919
D-did she BRAP at him
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>>385647028
Shut up cuck, kys.
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>>385638406
I'm not sure what it is with the graphics but I wish it looked sharper. It looks like it has some fullscreen blur filter on top of it all that doesn't fit with the art style. Other than that it looks pretty good.
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>>385643538
I hope DQ9 remake will be an arpg or roguelike.
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>>385644139
>DQVIII
>big and long
que?
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>>385646453
>>385645691
>>385644919
im noticing a connection that all the good DQ games have titty monsters
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>>385644919
Based nips
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>>385639068
HAHAHA HOLY SHIT!
The missing voice acting ruins this game kinda.
The start and everything's so gorgeous, yet the game is missing that one thing that would've made it perfect.
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>>385647275
>>385644139
Im in the middle of 8

How far am I if I just beat Evil Jessica and doing the Cash/Carrie side quest?
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>>385647350
Fuck off.
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>>385647069
I don't remember the game crashing every time you wipe
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>>385647448
60% - 65% id say.
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>>385638406
Dragon Quest Warriors already looked that good. Not sure about 1 but played 2 a while ago and it looked like that.
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>>385647069
you resart at the last spot you saved with half of your money but you don't lose any progess, retard
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>>385647069
Git gud?
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>>385647539
Sorry, more like 55% - 58%
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>>385647552
Welp

I turned off my game in rage
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>>385647350
Fuck off burger.

>I dont want to read!!!

I'm glad DQ is keeping to it's roots than change everything.

>Game remains the same and sticks to it's routes whilst changing and adding in minor things
>It's so good
>Couple of years later
>WHY HAVENT THEY DONE THIS THIS AND THIS YET REEEEEEEEEE

>Game changes to what people said
>IT'S NOT THE SAME GAME REEEEEEEEEE

FUCK OFF YOU VA FAGS AND GO JUMP IN A FUCKING HOLE.
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Thoughts on DQ Builders and Heroes 1&2? Feel like getting one to tide me over until XI comes out.
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>>385647552
>half your money
>don't lose any progress
Well which is it?
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>>385638406
>look this good
>looks like a PS3 game
What ?
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>>385647670
Builders is fantastic, did not care for Heroes at all.
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>>385647670
Heroes 2 is awesome.
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>>385647670
I don't like musou but builders was pretty decent. One thing I didn't like about it is you have to start over basically 3 times. It's 4 mini campaigns, each has you start over from scratch, instead of one solid progression. It ends up feeling like 4 smaller games instead of 1 big game
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>>385646390
That sounds a lot like fantasy life's crafting.
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>>385647450
I am not memeing. It's just hilarious how the potential of this game got dragged down a bit.
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>>385640257
Fuck, I want both versions now.
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>>385647682
both?
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>>385647664
Stop fighting a lost war, DQ VIII had VOs for western release and the same will happen now.

And you'll like it, i'm fine with no VOs but don't let your hate for cucks like him make you say having VOs is somehow a bad thing.
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>>385638406
why does it look like Dragonball
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>>385647634
Nah, it's 59.5% - 61.2%.
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>>385647550
Heroes II doesn't look as good as DQXI.
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>>385639068
>dog does the barking animation
>no sound
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>>385646945
Sugiyama and Toriyama don't hold a candle to Sakaguchi and Nomura.
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>>385647634
>>385647928
>>385647539
couldve just said im a little over halfway done but thanks kek
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what do nips think of no VA?
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>>385647928
Har har you little turbocuck.
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>>385647916
Except it wont?

If the JP release didnt have any then the western wont either.
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>>385647808
You are memeing. Nobody who likes DQ gives a shit one way or the other about VA.
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>>385647927
r u retarded?
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>>385639068
The actual in game stuff with textboxes isn't as weird without VA but jesus christ that completely silent cinematic was awkward as fuck.
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>>385642047
its bad really same goes for the music, characters are quite meh and well the game have absolutly nothing of special at all i think this games are perfect for shit taste japanese salary man, everything is made so you can self insert and not in the good way
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>>385647954
To be fair I played it on PC but I assume it looks the same just with lower resolution on PS4. It's not like Japanese companies to add anything extra to PC.
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>>385648052
They're smart and can read so why would they care?
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>>385648052
Nobody gives a shit because only 1 DQ has ever had VA.
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>>385648079
DQ VIII didn't have VOs in Japan.

DQXI for the PS4 was made to expand the audience on the west, it's also the only reason we got Builders and 2 Heroes games.

It will most likely have VOs.
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>>385640257
>If the JP release didnt have any then the western wont either.
just like 8!
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>>385648223
>best DQ has voice acting

really makes me think
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>>385647350
the game is bad and its like a black and white cartoon with shitty music and sound effects whit zero voice acting but good animations
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>>385646453
Nvm.
I'll need to play this in the bathroom, not in bed.
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>>385648238
Builders didn't have VA. Neither did VII 3DS.
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>>385648238
>DQ VIII didn't have VOs in Japan.
It did though
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>>385648284
VII didn't have voice acting though?
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>>385648316
Builders doesn't need VOs and VII was already expensive as fuck to localize.
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>>385648415
7 is a boring piece of shit
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>>385648284
Neither III or VII has voice acting.
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>>385642540
that's not how math works
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>>385648238
8 did have Japanese VOs though.
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does toriyama still do the art?
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>>385647350
>implying voice acting is the problem when the game has a SNES-tier OST
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>>385641646
It has the Casino and weapon forging too I think
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>>385639068
holy hell, that music and those sound effects

why even bother doing graphics that good if your saddle the game with MIDI garbage.

no wonder the english version doesn't come out for an entire year, besides VA they've got to redo the entire sound.
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>>385648294
Dude. Shut up about the music. It sounds just the way it was meant to be: Great.
DQ always had this kind of simple music. And even simple music can be good.
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>>385648189
>missing the point this hard
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>>385648473
WRONG
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>>385648687
>why even bother doing graphics that good if your saddle the game with MIDI garbage.
Exactly. The nicer the graphics get the more jarring it is that other elements of the game are stuck in the 16-bit era.
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I heard rumors that Koichi Sugiyama sperged out when he learned that games were coming out in the west, even after he went on a hunger strike to stop DQX from leaving japan. Is this true?
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>>385646041
>I have no issue with Nintendo, but the 3DS was their most gimped trash hardware to date, worse then the fucking repackaged Gamecube called the Wii.
Sure thing anon.
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>>385648709
simple != outdated
The music just sounds a decade old. There's a difference between simple and obsolete.
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>It's a people who dont like Dragon Quest comment on the game thread

Fuck off fags.

It looks GOAT
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>>385647670

I liked Heroes 2 a lot. Have not played Builders as that genre does not interest me. But it seems pretty straightforward - a DQ minecraft game.
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>>385648537
Not until like 10 years later
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>>385648981
Oh I completely agree. It LOOKS fucking beautiful. It SOUNDS awful.
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>>385646397
>will coin you out as a fucking graphicsfag
Only if you have the reading comprehension of a 4 years old. I said several times in those posts that the 3ds version looks amazing and you can tell they put passion and effort into it.

It's not a competition with the ps4 simply because it can't be. They have entirely different hardware and are made for different purposes.

Surely you don't have the reading comprehension of a 4 years old, do you?
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>>385647069
>dying to a random mob in 8
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>>385646705
>free movement during battles
What? I've been playing for a while and I don't have that.
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>>385648852
It's not a rumor if you're just pulling shit out of your ass, anon.
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>>385648981
This.

Nobody who likes DQ cares about VA or the fact it's MIDI.
Be grateful they announced a Western release so early, in fact be grateful we're getting it at all.
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>>385649256
>or the fact it's MIDI
I must have just imagined all those DQVIII 3DS threads. Man I have a wild imagination.
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What engine?
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>>385649232
You can move your character around, it's still turn based.
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>>385649467
UE4
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>>385649075
SE is the masters of the enhanced re-release, there's no way they'll release the game as it is untouched in the West

so they'll get to sell the game again in Japan with new sound and voice acting.
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>>385649256

Yeah I am grateful they announced it. I am grateful we get any DQ games at all over the years, considering its niche status.

Now it is just a matter of time which version they announce to localize, or both.
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>>385649356
Holy shit the ps4 version is flat out the best imho
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>>385649356
Fuck you Chen
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>>385649656
why is UE4 so fucking based? I've literally never seen an ugly UE4 game outside of Injustice 2, but even for NR, Injustice 2 still looked better than anything they've ever done. Shame they're so incompetent.
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Is there any info on how it performs on PS4 vs PS4 Pro? Any noticeable differences or anything?
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I wanna see more 3ds footage desu
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>>385645026
On the 3ds you choose all of your commands at the start of the turn. On PS4 you make your move as that character's turn comes up.
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Is drakue-fag in this ITT? Is he here to tell us how real old-school drakue-fans think about the game?

J/k I love you
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What are the odds the English version will have voice acting? Like what happened with VIII's release (original game had no voices and SNES-tier soundtrack, localized version had voice acting and remixed music)
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>>385650170
This can you guys post 3DS webms?
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>>385650254
I hope 0, but westerners ruin everything so who knows.
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>>385649256
>Nobody who likes DQ cares about VA or the fact it's MIDI
Speak for yourself you self-important faggot. I love DQ and I am praying we get orchestral music and voice acting.

Shit, I don't even care if the characters speak gibberish instead of English, there just needs to be SOME KIND OF SOUND coming out of their mouths because it looks too fucking stupid having these amazingly well-animated characters miming.
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>>385649907
Injustice 2 is UE3 and looks better than numerous UE4 games like SFV.
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>>385650283
>>385650170
Only if I record it with my phone camera. I can't do a proper recording with my 3ds.
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>>385650254
>What are the odds the English version will have voice acting?
90%

They know that Western consumers won't give them a free pass for lacking such a fundamental feature.
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>>385650254
Pretty good.
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>>385650385
How good is your camera? I wanna see battles and the titty monster girl
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>>385650565
At the point I'm at in the game I only have hero and Camus.
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>>385648379
Only in the 3ds re-release.
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>>385644919
Why does an octopus get aroused by a human female?
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i forgot what the guy said where do I find the Mirror of Ra in DQ II
I went east but only found a tower with a prayer ring and wind mantle in it
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>>385650338
>I am praying we get orchestral music

There's a good chance we'll get that. On an interview they had on the DQ11, near the end Koichi Sugiyama said he'll be focusing on orchestrating the music with the Tokyo Metropolitan Symphony Orchestra after release. Considering the DQIX and X Symphonic Suites were out only a couple of months after their initial release, it's certain that one will be released for DQ11 before we'll ever get the localization.

It's just a matter of footing the bill for the symphonic music (or however that works, I'm not sure what goes on to get the music there) to use for the localization.
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>>385650338
>I love DQ
>there just needs to be SOME KIND OF SOUND coming out of their mouths
And yet you haven't had this problem with any of the 9 other games. Really love DQ, don't you?

Fuck off bandwagon faggot.
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>>385651019
Swamp next to the two bridges. It's a small patch of poison.
Search the floor.
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>>385651112
>And yet you haven't had this problem with any of the 9 other games
Christ you are so fucking mindless.

The improved graphics + animations in XI is what makes the lack of voice acting stick out more. The cutscenes look so fucking awkward, it's immersion-breaking.
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>>385651112
When will people like you stop replying to people like him? Just don't reply man.
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Dancing loli

https://twitter.com/hhwwddii/status/891540600167596032
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>>385645843
you aren't the whole of japan who is buying this game

you aren't a fucking deciding factor, gaijin FAGGOT
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>>385651112
Being a fan of something doesn't mean that he needs to be blind of possible improvements.

He's perfectly right. I'm playing the game either way, but pretending that it won't be a better experience with voice acting and orchestrated soundtrack, would be delusional.
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>>385647654
look at him and laugh
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>>385646453
>that bat monster girl
Dayum son
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>>385651112
Not even him but why are you being so stupid?
The other 9 games didn't have movie level graphics, they all either have 2D sprites, or shitty 3D models except in the case of DQIII, which ended up getting voice acting.

This however is the equivalent of going to watch a pixar movie or anything with all the voices just gone. They're literally moving their mouths in a completely realistic manner and nothing is coming out.
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>>385651470
But does she do anal?
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>>385651473
Game has 4 stars on Amazon, not even 4.5, so apparently most Japs feel that there are at least some flaws with the game.
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>>385639068
That deinterlaced interlacing hurts so much.
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>>385651780
Not him and I don't really care about the stupid shit ass argument you guys are having, but didn't 8 have 0 voice in jp?

I read that somewhere.
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>>385638406
Thats not very impressive anon. Do you game exclusively on nintendo devices?
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>>385651896
Japanese PS2 version of VIII had no voices, but the 3DS version did.
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>>385651896
It did originally, for the 3DS remake it got voice acting.
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>>385652030
The 3ds version is only a remake and it doesn't really look as grandiose as the ps2 one, which had no voice.

Whatever though I'm already getting more involved than I wanted to in the shiposting fest you guys call a conversation.
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>>385651246
Cool, I was about to try searching there actually.
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>>385651470
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>>385651815
this nigga thinks fucking amazon is a barometer of any shit in Japan

fuck off!
you've lost!
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>>385652398
>>385651798
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>>385652275
Okay then stop posting anytime, since you're way too high and mighty to lower yourself to actually discussing the game.
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>>385652398
this is very cute
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>>385652275
shitposting?

about shit that is correct, like PS2 having no voice, 3DS having voice and shit?

man, you don't even KNOW what shitposting IS anymore, DO YOU?

god, people who do real shitposting need some kind of thing that watches what they type and gives their posts a mark that fucking brands them as a shitposter

but apparently, talking about games and being correct in what you say is shitposting now

fuck you all, god, 2007 was the worst fucking thing that happened to this damn site. if you were here, you KNOW what im talking about.
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>>385652427
What an embarrassing post.
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>>385649356
>you can now change character without exhausting a turn
Wow, they fucking casualized it.
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>>385652809
couldn't you do that in the previous ones? I remember doing it in 5.
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>>385653513
only if the wagon was available
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hit up jap psn for a free dq11 theme
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>>385653629
Square Enix think they slick
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>>385653754
Her tits look smaller in this theme.
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>>385653772
reminder that angelo dabbed when casting spells
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>>385654007
not really, they still look huge
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>>385647670
Both are fun. Obviously very different style of games but each has its charm.
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>>385654427
Can you sell me on builders? What is there to set it apart from a just reskin of minecraft?
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>>385654427
I want to fondle Jessica's big fat tats!
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>turn-based combat
No thanks
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>>385654521
A story and quests.
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>>385654427
I have never played a musuo game, which DQ Heroes would you say is better?
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>>385654521
Not much to say, it's more DQ with a Minecraft skin than Minecraft with a DQ skin IMO. Much more story heavy with actual objectives, including boss battles.
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>>385654521
It's kind of like Terraria without the big random bosses. You have goals and quests, and there are NPCs that ask you to build specific buildings in specific ways.

It's easy, because it's a minecraft game essentially, but the zoomed-back perspective and the emphasis on exploration and fighting monsters sets it apart in my opinion. If you're a real creative type with a lot of free time you can do a lot of things, and there's actual stuff to find lying around the world.

That being said, because of that the levels aren't randomly generated and story mode kind of feels like a big tutorial, with the whole game "This is how you build a this, please build me one."

If you're a fan of dragon quest or minecraft, you'll probably like it. If you're a fan of both, I can imagine it doin' a lot for you.
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>>385638724
text
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>>385654838
not him but heroes 2 is a lot better
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>>385654687
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>>385638406
this is how it looks in pc for certain don't now about ps4
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>>385638406
No anon, that is clearly the 3DS version
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>>385638406
>Does dragon quest xi really look this good
>"good"

It looks like a PS2 game. Is that actually a Switch screenshot?
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>>385649256
>you're not a true DQ fan if you have standarts!
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>>385646359
>literally dies in one hit
>does less damage with high level magic than Hero, Carver, Terry or Nevan with a regular attack
Why would she be the best party member?
At the end of the game she got better and I was pretty sad to see her go, but still for most of the game she did nothing.
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>>385648687
>besides VA they've got to redo the entire sound.
Is that something that'll actually be done or are you just assuming?
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>>385655310
SLIMEZ ND SHIEET
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It looks mediocre graphics wise

The PS4 can do way better, why the fuck did they make a 3DS version, it held it back

god damnit square
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>>385638406
what exactly is supposed to be so impressive? it certainly doesn't look like shit or anything, but it just looks like the graphics of dragon quest heroes but with a bit more polish.
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>>385655441
So is it confirmed no one on /v/ has ever played a ps2 game?
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>>385645998
>>385647450
>>385647664
>>385648981
>>385651112
Is this really all he DQ can say these days? This is worse than FFXV fanboys.
You''re literally telling others to have low standarts
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>>385645843
Voice acting will probably be in the game when its localized, its what happened with VIII, same could also happen with the music, where we get orchestrated music while Japs keep their MIDI music.
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>>385655441
Why is "looks like PS2" always used as an insult
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>>385640257
>>385640161
>mfw prefer the look of the 3DS version but only have a PS4 and don't want to buy a 3DS for one game

Oh why must devs fall for the modern post processing effects -meme.
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>>385655682
it's spelt standarDs, not standarts
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>>385655775
Because it makes the bait all the more obvious.
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>>385647069
>getting wiped in 8 to random mob
>not saving 24 7

No anon you are the gay
>>
Should I buy DQ VIII for the 3ds(played the PS2 version back then), VII for the 3ds or import XI for the PS4?
Regarding VII I kept seeing people mentioning that you should not level too much before 3/4th of the game are over or something like that because of jobs. Is that true?
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>>385655809
There's definitely something slightly "off" about the ps4's visuals, the battles look a little strange too.
The character models, monster especially, look great however, although they look pretty good on the 3ds as well.
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>>385656186
Can you speak moon? If so then get 11, if not then get 7.
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>>385655572
>It looks mediocre graphics wise
Looks pretty sweet to me.
>>385639068

>The PS4 can do way better
I don't know whether this is PS4 or PS4 Pro footage but especially if it's just a PS4? Good joke. Regardless, I don't know why you expect every game to look like the next Crysis. It's a fucking JRPG dude. They might not have even budgeted for (or wanted) that sort of thing.
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>>385655775
It's the same 2 or 3 people posting the same exact bait with slightly different words every time.

People like you who reply are pretty bad too.
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This looks great but i don't wanna wait to play it.
I WANT TO PLAY IT NOW
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>>385656303
Yeah, I watched gameplay of the first hour or two and it was okay. Some kanji here and there, but it seems like it's a good alternative to e.g. children books or so.
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Why do people keep saying this looks bad?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lKTMFme9u0

Were they born after the ps2 era and don't actually know what a real ps2 games look like?
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>>385656547

April/May 2018
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>>385647069
>lose progress from party wipe
>in a Dragon Quest game
Ya know anon, I get the feeling you've never played one of these.
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>>385655572
>why the fuck did they make a 3DS version, it held it back
The 3DS version wasn't even made by the same group of people you tard
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>>385656228
I think for me it's the way too "realistic" textures on some surfaces (cliffs, rocks) and that the grass looks like it's just a stock unity asset. The art style doesn't look coherent to me which is my biggest problem with it.

Still gonna buy it because I'm a weak-willed bitch.
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>>385656812
More like September.
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>>385656812
*Late 2018

In about over a years time.
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>>385657036
Where does it say late? I've seen "late" people been asked this question several times but they never actually answer.
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>>385655572
>why the fuck did they make a 3DS version
because they wanted to make sure the game passed 1 million copies sold on at least one platform
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>>385656675
probably since these are the same people complaining about no VA
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>>385657183
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_187BByF2TM
>Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age is coming to the West in 2018! More details to follow in Fall 2017.
Who knows. Probably pessimistic view on things.
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>>385657619
So that's why they never answer. They are shitposters making up facts.
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Everything is superior on Nintendo Switch

Play DQ11 ANYWHERE with superior graphics
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>>385650876
Go ask the people at /d/
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>tfw we never got a 3DS port of the PS2 version of DQV with that glorious orchestral soundtrack

JUST LISTEN TO IT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geZr01w8FAE

Man I have no idea why they went backwards from this in terms of music. This is objectively better than the original MIDI music from 8 and and 11.
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>>385650876
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I really wish that the switch version is gonna just be a higher res 3DS version.

I would vastly prefer that look over the lower res PS4 version -look we're gonna get.
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>>385658172
god I love dhoulmagus's theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjDs75G6M6A
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>>385640890
I love my switch but couldn't give a fuck about the mobile aspect. It's cool but I don't bring it with me anywhere.

Please fuck put a headphone jack on the next pro controller. What is Nintendo smoking.
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>>385658330
Huh? How could a higher-res 3DS version look better than a lower-res PS4 version?
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>>385658593
I'll consider buying a switch once they release a cheaper home variant without the joycons and screen I'll never use desu.
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>>385658617
>huh? why are your tastes not the same as mine?????? HUH???
You need to be older than 18 to post on this website.
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>>385658593
>I love my switch but couldn't give a fuck about the mobile aspect.
That's like, most of the reason to want a Switch.
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>>385658680
Yeah but I don't think they ever will, I'm content with the switch, splatoon 2 has made me not turn on my PC or PS4 in like a month.

But really the lack of a headphone jack on the pro controller which is amazing by the way. Is just inexcusable.
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>>385658734
Oh, I'm sorry. I was expecting you to have a comparison shot on hand so that we could have a nice discussion, you fucking child.
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Is there any decent 3ds emulator? Or ds, I want to play some dragon quests.
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>>385658680
>release a home variant with no controller
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>>385658909
desume is a good ds emulator I think.
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>>385653978
blonde girl looks cute with her awkward dancing
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>>385658909
For DS try Desmume. Works pretty well.
There's a 3DS one called Citra but it's still a work in progress.
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>>385658617
Sorry I should have been a bit more elaborate.

I don't have much faith in them getting it to run that well on the switch if they try to go for that PS4 look. Higher res 3DS version would most likely run really well and be really snappy to play because it doesn't demand much and that's what I want from handheld games.
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>>385658961
Obviously it would be packaged with a pro controller.
Also it's fucking horseshit that the wii u pro controller doesn't work with the switch, what a blunder.
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>>385658801
Not really dude, I have a Pyrex screen protector and all that but I have no need or want to bring it with me so I can play splatoon at a restaurant or school or work or some shit. I just play at home and I never use the tablet mode. For splatoon or Zelda.

I think there's a lot of people who rarely take it out or buy it for the mobile aspect alone, outside of /v/ that is.

Seems like a big oversight to not have a headphone jack on the joy con grip or pro controller imho.
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>>385659132
>Also it's fucking horseshit that the wii u pro controller doesn't work with the switch
Why would it?
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If you want to see how it looks I'm live now at /rudywastaken
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>>385659201
why shouldn't it?
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>>385658892
I'm not the guy you are replying to. It's just absolutely fucking retarded that you would say something like that because he prefers X as opposed to Y.

After you mature enough you'll realize different people have different tastes and that's just how things work.
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>>385659714
Jesus you're thick. I have absolutely no opinion on Dragon Quest XI. I've never even touched the series. I just wanted to hear his opinion on why one might look better than the other (especially since he's talking about something that's completely theoretical in nature) because I thought it sounded interesting.

Go be self-important somewhere else.
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>>385659362
Because it's a completely different controller for a different system?
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>>385651572
>it won't be a better experience with voice acting
it won't be. voice acting is completely unnecessary.

texts and bleeps are all you need.
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>>385659012
Ah, gotcha. I'm not too familiar with DQ XI but I assume the main differences are in having higher-poly models are better lighting? Well, fingers crossed they don't fuck it up.

>>385659148
I just mean that if not for the mobile aspect it'd have been a lot more powerful (and/or cheaper), so when determining that it's worth $300 a person would probably weigh in the fact that much of the costs stems from the portability. It's like how a decent laptop costs $500 or $600 but when compared to a desktop it's still complete garbage even if it might be pretty strong in a vacuum. Either way it's still a Nintendo box so that might be enough but it's certainly the thing holding me back until the next hardware revision. I do want a Switch eventually though. It looks neat.
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>>385659714
>>385658734

Why so hostile? He was asking a genuine question.

I would add that artstyle makes a big difference. The 3DS version definitely has a more 'cartoon' aesthetic and can get away with having less detail while still looking really good. On the other hand, if you try to get all those blades of grass and tree leaves rendered on weaker hardware you end up with bad jaggies or low frames which would look worse.
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>>385643538
Fucking 2ch. Shouldn't have listened to those dumb fucks. Turn based combat is holding this series back.
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>>385660476
t. normalfag
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DOES THIS GAME HAVE ANY PRO IMPROVEMENTS?
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>>385660476
How is it holding it back? What could it achieve without it that it can't now and is inline with the series?
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>>385660591
>le fake 4k
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>>385660567
Do you have an argument or do you just spout buzzwords like a sheep.
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>>385660752
Guns. But like, magic ones.
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>>385660591

I think all it has is 4k support that gets downsampled if you're on a 1080p display
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>>385660160
>it won't be. voice acting is completely unnecessary.
>texts and bleeps are all you need.

What you fail to grasp is that voiceacting can enhance the experience and also helps during cutscenes or action scenes. With text you will be forced to halt the action for a text box to appear and stuff like that.

This idea that 100% text based is superior is just wrong. Even if for some reason the voices were dogshit you can just mute them.

There's a reason why text heavy games like Planescape Torment also use some voiceacting.
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>>385660839
My argument is that there's nothing wrong with turn based combat and if you want something different go play another game or the spinoffs.
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>>385660752
Its a boring system man. Was only created as a way to deal with limits of the time.
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>>385661028
You don't really play dragon quests do you?
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>>385638406
So how much kanji is there in this game anyway? I can handle hiragana and katakana, but my kanji isn't anything special.
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>>385647910
That's my plan.
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>>385661028
cause mashing x and having ally AI do all the support for you is so much fun
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>>385660951
>With text you will be forced to halt the action for a text box to appear and stuff like that.
even if there was voice acting there would still be text boxes like in 8, not an argument
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>>385661159
>So how much kanji is there in this game anyway?
Kind of a weird question, I doubt anyone counted. What I can tell you is that it tries it's best to use the least amount of kanji possible.

It uses kanji, sure, but a lot of stuff that normally would use kanji in this game they don't. Like for instance all the menu words like 作戦 攻撃 防御 and on and on, those are all in kana which really annoys me but might be helpful for you.

Also, 3ds version has furigana.
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>>385660909

>downsampling

this is preferable to fake 4k.
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>>385661336
>even if there was voice acting there would still be text boxes like in 8, not an argument

It's pretty crazy how retarded you are.
The original DQ8 game didn't have voiceacting, it was added in the west by the localization team. The game was designed as a text based game.

If 11 was designed to have voiceacting and action scenes yet they halted action for text boxes they would be legit retarded.
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>>385661190

>mfw we won't get the bundle
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>>385661545
it would still happen, mark my words
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>>385638406
Doesn't matter, not getting the game if it doesn't have VA. Why bother when the devs are this lazy and so behind the times.
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>>385661593
was interested in the book then realized it's just a case
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>>385661678
>it would still happen, mark my words

if it did then the devs would be retarded, as I said.
even so voiceacting (unless you half ass it) enhances.
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>>385661512
Is "fake 4K" that thing where they render only certain parts of the screen in 4K at once, with a sort of alternating checkerboard pattern?
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>>385661593
are you trying to make me cry?
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Just how fucking amazing would be an IX remake for the Switch with all the DLC on cart.

I'm 10 hours in and decided to drop it in hope of a remake in a few years, no co-op kinda kills it for me, nobody i knows plays it.

I'm kinds burned out of the franchise anyway, beated IV, V, VI, VII & VIII in less than a year.
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>>385662485
What are the dlc?
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>>385661153
No. But if they wanna expand the market they gotta play ball, the west is ready to embrace DQ. All square needs to do is make the games real time action, drop that dumb ass turn base shit.
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>>385662531
600 hours of content.
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Aspiring reader of moonrunes here. Realistically with moderately heavy study how long would it take to play this in moon? I've been told Dragon Quest is far far simpler to play compared to other games.
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>>385662135
Its upscaled 1440p or 1800p with sony checkerboard to make it 2160p(4k)
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>>385662607
How so? Is it like an entirely new campaign?
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>>385662531
over 100 quests and tons of legacy bosses, legacy gear and the majority of the massive postgame
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>>385662568
>No.
Okay your opinion was duly noted.
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>>385662680
no it's boring postgame randomly generated dungeon grinding bullshit that they bafflingly decided to focus the game around
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>>385662568
>games real time action,
Fuck that shit. Dragon Quest is one of the only fucking games that stick with the traditional turn based style. The mainstream fuckers have Final Fantasy and practically every other AAA JRPG. Let of fucking have one.

Besides when it comes to Dragon Quest Square doesn't give a fuck. They won't piss of Japan who is the biggest buyer of Dragon Quest just to appease the Western Market. XI sort of does it by allowing you to move around the battle (which does nothing) to appease the autist folks who always have to be doing something.
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/v/ should get together and make a push for real time action main series DQ. Imagine how much weeb assblasting there would be. Weebs crying left and right because their precious garbage turn base combat is gone.
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>>385662609
Man it really, really depends on you.

Depends on how you can retain kanji/vocabulary, like if you are the kind that know radicals and stroke order or if you are the kind that simply stare at kanji really hard and hope to memorize them.
Depends on how well you assimilate the important grammar points. Grammar is important as shit and you need to have reading experience to recognize a few of the more popular constructs that are like little set sentences within a sentence that have a set meaning.
Depends on how often you read, and how early you can get a reading rhythm going, how much you try to actually understand and go after unknown shit you find while reading and so on.

I would say with about a year of experience you can play this game understanding more than you need to. For 100% understanding you will need much more since the last few percentages are always tough, regardless of how easy the game is.
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>>385663187
you sound fucking retarded right now my dude
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>>385663187
As amazing the reaction from the Japanese freaking would be. I don't want this.
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>>385663187
>/v/ should get together
the only thing /v/ would do together is suck each others dicks, shitpost, and post memes
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>>385663187
newfaggiest post i read all day
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>>385663338
Not as retarded as turn base combat.
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Gotta love the normies.
>Final Fantasy now an ARPG.
>Final Fantasy VIIR action combat.
>Every RPG neeeds to be ARPG for them.
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>>385639068
>midi trumpets

seriously?
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>>385663187
>push for real time action main series DQ
Hm which market does Square Enix care about?
>West vs East.
Do you really think they'd snub the gigantic fanbase in Japan because some normies can't play turn based games?
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>>385663187
>hating on turn based combat
nigga you cancer
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>>385660951
No, voice acting adds literally nothing and wastes time and resources.

I'm glad they're not doing it, and I hope more games go back to text and bleeps.
Writing in games would improve tenfold, mark my words.
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>>385646803
>Bcoz
No, I think it is because you are a colossal faggot.

>>385638406
Dragging DQ into a thread about graphics whoring and general shitposting should be a bannable offense.
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>>385663187
I honestly believe Japan would become even more xenophobic and demand war on the West if Dragon Quest turned into an ARPG to meet the demands of idiots like you.
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>>385660951
VA is cancer
it ruins the OST of games
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>>385639068
THIS is what people are excited about? That is some JRPG ass JRPG. Why the fuck are you all excited for the blandest looking shit ever made, stale water has more flavor thab this shit. You people have some really shitty ass taste.
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>>385664059
Dragon Quest threads have been insufferable for a while now, ever since VII was announced stateside.
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>>385663673

What's wrong with a little honking

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu1MwK8OSw0
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What's up with the massive influx of people who don't give a fuck about DQ and just want to shitpost?

Is school time over or something?
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DQ XI Symphonic Suite when.
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>>385664096
>spoken dialogue ruins OST.
DQ fans everyone. Step up and see the retardation first hand.
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>>385664239
Probably because all of us are taking the bait. The turn based hater probably doesn't give a fuck.
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>>385664383
>hearing a retarded voice over the nice soundtrack
yeah its cancer
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>>385664239
They got in on the shitposting when VII 3DS's OST was changed, to then going onto VIII 3DS's bullshit like intentionally making bait threads about censorship. They're just following into these threads now to fuck up anything they can.
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>>385664239
NEVER EVER Shitposters can't shitpost about us never getting DQ11, and NEVER EVERing about DQ10 and the spinoffs doesn't really work anymore.
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>>385664512
Where were all the people complaining that voice acting "ruined" the Persona 5 soundtrack again?
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>>385664239
/v/ is literally a containment board for autistic children

they need to perpetuate the le shit on everything meme to seen cool and jaded, and their typical childlike sense of self importance means they need to speak about things they don't know/care about; thus /v/ shitposting culture
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>>385664527
To be fair, changing VII's soundtrack from the fully orchestrated one for the international release was basically a war crime. I hacked my 3DS just so I could find the US version with the fully orchestrated OST added back in.
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>>385639068
>Same medieval setting
>Same story structure
>Same plot elements
>Same sounds since the NES era
>Same combat
>Same enemies
>Same character designs and style
>Going a step backwards from DQVIII by not adding voice acting in this year and age
>Afraid of radical changes because MUH NOSTALGIA and MUH HARDCUR JAPANESE FANBASE
>Not appealing to both the west and the east by adding elements from the games that have been popular on both regions
>Being THIS old and THIS stubborn to change

Holy shit, Dragon Quest is the definition of boring.
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>no voice acting
>missing sfx on purpose
>midi music
>turn base combat
>bland story
>bland world
>bland music
>bland characters
Literally why? Seriously. Just eat unseasoned white cold rice while looking at DBZ pictures and you get the same experience faster.
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>>385664941
>>385664969
cool the jets lads, not all at once
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Thread is over.
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>>385664714
So did I, and almost nobody was defending it outside of people who preferred it or didn't like the weird looping that occurred on like three songs in 7. But there's a difference between like:

>Let's have a DQ7 thread
>I'm having fun even if it sucks they changed the music

and

>did you know sugiyama hates the west
>boycott these fucking nips and their shit music changes
>look at this western censorship they're censoring the music, too

Posts/threads like the latter intentionally going for (You)s would show up repeatedly in several threads to the point of redundancy.
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>>385664136
I remember when DQ threads were civil and good. I hope summer leaves soon.
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I want to see more of Martina's outfits!
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@385664941
@385664969
oh ho ho ho

it seems you naughty boys want my (You)s uguu~
well... you'll have to better than that ;-)
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Ultimately, arguing about voice acting and MIDI OST is pointless. The game WILL have voices and orchestral music in the Western release.

It would be an utter laughing stock among the gaming audience without them and even a company as fucking dense as Square Enix knows it.
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>>385665307
>utter laughing stock among the gaming audience
Most people will not give a shit about a soundtrack and only a bunch of faggots like yourselves actually cry about VA.
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@385665180
Oh, stop it, anon... you are not getting ANY (You)s from me, you silly donut :)))
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What sucks the most about this influx of shitposting is that DQ already struggles in the West.
Now we get a new mainline game announced on the day of the Japanese release with a launch date for next year, and shitposters are intent on making sure DQ doesn't even get off its feet.

Can't you fucks go find a series that isn't already in jeopardy? You're literally kicking a man while he's down, and doing your best to make sure we never get another DQ.
Just fuck off, yeah?
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>>385665180
Don't worry Anon, I'll be your (You) proxy.

>>385664941
>>385664969
Poor bait though.
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>>385665547
Truth is not bait, anon.
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>>385665307
>It would be an utter laughing stock among the gaming audience without them and even a company as fucking dense as Square Enix knows it.
If that was the case, they'd have added voices to DQVII 3DS and DQB.

Nobody cares about VA outside of shitposters. What's far more important is that we're actually getting the game at all.
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>>385664941
>Going a step backwards from DQVIII by not adding voice acting in this year and age
It can't be a step backwards when DQVIII never had voice acting in Japan.
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>>385665787
Not only that, the very same shitposters would complain about how mediocre the VAs are and the hamfisted accents and that "the game would be better without VAs so we could listen to the music better" or some bullshit excuse.
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>>385665787
>If that was the case, they'd have added voices to DQVII 3DS
That's a handheld game, expectations are obviously lower.
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>>385665787
I care about VA and I'm not a shitposter.
I'm buying the game regardless of whether we get voice acting or not, but I desperately hope that we do, since I find the voice acting to make the games more charming and overall better.
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>>385656457
I'm not taking it serious or anyhting, just wondering why it's always PS2. Not just in this thread. There're way better consoles so use for "bad" .
>People like you who reply are pretty bad too.
Oh please forgive me master. Get off your high horse, you're posting on /v/ ffs
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The midi really doesn't sound good though. Japs choose the most retarded stuff to be purist about. They love the symphonic suites. Nothing wrong with actually havin the way the music is supposed to aound from the start.
But no, gotta sell the original soundtrack and the symphonic suite separately for more money.


Fucking capitalism.
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>>385666041
Then explain DQB?
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I'm again reminded why i usually never enter DQ threads. Man the fanbase can be shit sometimes. Reminds me of XV threads when t
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>>385666179
My god, are you actually being serious? You don't seem to have the ability to think rationally at all.
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>>385666232
>the fanbase
The shitposters are 100% NOT fans of DQ
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>>385666090
>co-op de graces are back
oh shit
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>>385666232
>anon killed by ragin dragon quest fan
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>>385666090
Holy shit, did she just spawn a bunch of metal slimes or is something else happening there?
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>>385666272
Not an argument.
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>>385666310
What applies as "shitposters" in your eyes? Does it include people that would like voice acting or better music/sound quality? If see then he's not wrong with the ffxv threads, where every criticism is considered shitposting.
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>>385666310
God you fanboys make even Biodrones look sane.

>REEEEEEEEEEEE UR NOT ALLOWED TO SAY ANYTHING CRITICAL OF DRAGON QUEST OR UR NOT A REAL FAN!!!!! REAL FANS WORSHIP EVERY SINGLE ASPECT OF THE GAMES WITHOUT QUESTION AND EVERYONE ELSE IS JUST A SHITPOSTER REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

Shut the fuck up, you're embarrassing.
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>>385666509
Derailing thread after thread crying for VA, something that only 1 (ONE) DQ has had, is in fact shitposting.
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>>385666141
Is "get off your high horse" the shitters code for "please stop being smarter than me"?

I'm sorry but people like you who give them (You)s are actually part of the issue. How can you not see that is beyond me.
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Looks so bad
>no voice acting
>ugly menus
>main character looks like a generic NPC
>stiff animations
what happend?
it looks a shitty DQ8 with no improvements
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>>385666570
>IT'S NOT SHITPOSTING TO SPAM THREADS WITH THE SAME INANE SHIT CONSTANTLY FUCK OFF WHY DONT YOU WANT YOUR SERIES CASUALISED AND TURNED TO SHIT LIKE EVERY OTHER FRANCHISE REEEEEEE IT'S CURRENT YEAR WHY AREN'T THEY CATERING TO ME REEEEEEEEEE
See I can make you like just as much of a silly cunt

Now fuck off and find a different franchise to ruin
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>>385664941
Unironically agreed, fuck.
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>>385665840
it did though
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>>385666965
No, it didn't. Only the remake did.
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>>385664941
I know, right. Dragon Quest needs:
>Full voice acting with Johnny Yong Bosch as the protag
>Full action combat with an I-frame dodge and QTE finishers. But it needs to have enough depth to look cool but simple enough that I can button mash and get through it
>Weapon loadouts and perks
>An OST done by Steve Jablonsky with pop music infused in for emotional scenes
>It should be a gritty, realistic deconstruction of the dragon quest story and format

I mean come the fuck on, it's 2017
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>>385667043
so it did then
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>>385666570
Have you not seen the state the thread is in? This is far from people being upset about valid criticism, the post quality has gone out the window and some people are clearly just instigating shit for giggles.

Do you really not see it?
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>>385666857
I own multiple DQ games you autistic fuck and I am excited for DQXI. Just because I disagree with you about voice acting or whatever doesn't make me a "shitposter" or whatever other retarded term you are using for people who make you sperg out by saying things you don't like.
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>>385667095
Anon, he's one of those posters instigating shit for giggles.
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>>385667223
There is no point in replying to anyone at this stage. I'm just going to leave the thread is over.

Moderation in this place sucks.
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>>385667187
Shut the fuck up cuck, nobody is falling for it.
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>>385667187
There's a difference between sharing your opinion and being an asshat for (You)s. If you can't see that this thread is filled to the brim with the latter rather than the former, than you're either retarded or one of them.
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>>385667187
I don't give a fuck about you or what you think, the same way you don't give a fuck about me. Save your life story for facebook.

There's a world of difference between posting valid criticism and recycling the same fucking posts to get (You)s
See
>>385664941
>>385664969
>>385666790
And the rest of thread. Fuck, two of those I quoted are in the space of less than a minute.
It's very clearly shitposting for shitpostings sake, as /v/ is want to do. If you can't see that, then I'm afraid you're probably one of them.
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>>385646173

Probably the characters and environments having different art styles.
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no Aoi Yuuki = no buy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mz-dhhFehc
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>>385667458
This guy shared his opinion: >>385645843
and then got immediately insulted by fanboys. Who are the "shitposters" again?
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>>385646249
thats Square Enix devs fault, look at mario kart, zelada, arms and splatoon 2 works great with some even hits constantly 60 fps
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>>385667068
>Final Fantasy releases a game
>It's an international event where both the west and the east get hype and excited for a new installment of the franchise
>Articles are written about it, people talk about it on all social media, the life of the game is palpable even years after the release

vs

>A new Dragon Quest gets released
>Only Japan gets hyped because the game caters specifically to them
>2chan users, westerner fat hipsters and old people cream their pants went the first enemy is a slime yet again
>Western people's excitement dies within a week because they realized they are playing the same tired game again
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>>385667687
>Keep it 2D if you're going to keep everything 2D but the graphics
Oh yeah, real thought out criticism there.
Also ignoring that there actually fucking is a 2D version.

Just fuck off already.
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>>385667687
Because at this point complaining about those things just feels like ad nauseam since people are doing it for (You)s so now every thread is going to have people assuming anyone complaining about those is doing so for shitposting sake unless it's worded in a non-aggressive way.

Just like when people complained about music in DQVII. And VIII. And literally ever thread. It's easier to write somebody off as a shitposter, especially if they share a common opinion with posters who intentionally try to start bullshit, than it is to give them the benefit of the doubt. Even more so when in the latter case, people will use the doubt you've given them against you to make you look stupid.
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>>385667797
I must be very out of touch because I saw zero hype for FF15
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>>385667797
There was hype for final fantasy after 13?
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post more webm please.
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>>385667942
>doesn't count because I don't agree with what he said
I'm done with DQ discussion. Keep acting like complete cunts to everyone and watch as the word-of-mouth hype for DQXI utterly dies.
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>>385668036
The Omen Trailer says otherwise.
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>>385668036
>I must be very out of touch because I saw zero hype for FF15
People have been excited about FF15 since they first realized stuff comes out of your dick when you touch it.
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>>385667797
>Western people's excitement dies within a week because they realized they are playing the same tired game again
Oh yeah, because as we know, the West hates to buy the same game again

Now excuse me while I play my yearly COD/BF/NBA/Fifa/Madden/AssCreed/Farcry/etc.
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>>385668173
At least those games had voice acting, bro.
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>>385650481
you meant burgerland as europe people can read
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>>385668246
The ride never ends.
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>>385668173
>AssCreed
Hey that doesn't count. They skipped a year.
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>>385668141
It doesn't count because it isn't even fucking criticism, you moron. It's a meaningless sentence that is also redundant as what he wants exists anyway.

Good, fuck off. You're adding nothing to any discussion and only making this place even worse.
You and every shitposter that tries to make DQXI another Tortanic for ebin funposts need to die. DQ is not a franchise strong enough to survive this bullshit.
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>>385668284
Your game being crippled on purpose because of traditions doesn't make it an instant classic nor a good game, bro.
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>>385668131

but this thread is dead
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>>385653978
i already see one futur censore costume for us
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>>385668396
Nothing is being crippled here you just dont like this style and thats fine.
Variety is good
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>>385668587
>Variety is good
>This is coming from a DQ fan

True pottery.
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/v/ will never be able to have a dragon quest xi thread after today, will it?
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>Fallout gets a voiced protagonist
>Everyone agrees it was a mistake, that it ruined the dialogue, and that voice acting in general is helping to dumb down game writing

>Dragon Quest opts for no voice acting
>Suddenly everyone loves voice acting, SquEnix is behind the times, and DQ needs to cater to people other than actual fans

this board is a joke
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>>385668572
Yeah.
>>385652398
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>>385668690
Your strawman doesnt even make sense.
Just because Im a DQ "fan" doesnt mean I only play DQ games
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>>385668708
>one faggot shitposting in a thread = everyone
You're the joke.
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>>385668690
Remember when your mom thought you were going to grow up eventually? Imagine if she could read your posts right now.
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>>385668708
There is no honest discussions on this board
Specially in a tread about a new game
Its all bait to get replies
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>>385667797

>Final Fantasy releases a game
>fujo fangirls go crazy
>FF fans get hyped, then their hopes are shattered when the game isn't like their past favorite FF game
>western fans get suckered into buying it because of mass marketing but doesn't finish the game
>no one even remembers it a month after launch

>New Dragon Quest gets released
>people of all ages in Japan buy it and love it
>game wins numerous awards and is talked about all year
>western fans don't buy it because it comes out a year later with zero marketing; most people don't even know it got localized at all

Really makes you think.
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>>385658617
it will be interesting to see a good hd cellshading style
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>>385668985
I really like the look of the PS4 version but that could look nice too.
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>>385667797

>Western people's excitement dies within a week because they realized they are playing the same tired game again
While on the other hand, the latest Pokemon game breaks sales records.

No, the reason DQ games don't sell well is lack of localizations. And when we actually get a game, it has little marketing and limited print runs. SquareEnix sabotages their own series, then blames the fans.
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i probably wont ever buy dragon quest 11 if there is no voice acting
its just too much of a turn off for a triple a game to have no voice acting
and orchestrated music
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>>385668974
>FF game gets announced
>A radically different battle system is announced along with a new artist and composer
>FF fans are barely bothered and hype grows because of the changes

>DQ game gets announced
>An image make it looks like the game went from turn-based combat to ARPG
>Death threads sent almost immediately to SE
>People threatening to commit sudoku en masse
>People harboring as the death of DQ because people are this rooted to the past
>SE releases a public apology and promises to never change anything again
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>>385669225
your post made me laugh anon
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@385669225
this is bait
all posts that look like this are to be ignored
if we can all do that, we can have our dq threads back
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