>Nintendo cares about what the fans wa-

I liked Sticker Star for some reason
And before anyone says I'm not a real Paper Mario fan, I played the N64 game before Sticker Star

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>>385635671
2016 might just be the worst year in Nintendo's history

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To be fair, Sticker Star was the way it was because the surveys on Club Nintendo (from casuals) indicated they wanted less story and more simple gameplay.

I think Color Splash was them hoping they could salvage the Sticker Star formula and move in the direction of regular Paper Mario, even if they were really far off.

I'd guess that if we get another Paper Mario game it will be a return to form.

>>385636157
Color Splash started development IMMEDIATELY after Sticker Star (like literally at the wrap-up party), they've flatout said this

They did not wait until they saw Sticker Star's reception at all

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>>385636157
>I'd guess that if we get another Paper Mario game it will be a return to form.

>>385636267
Well regardless, it was more Paper Mario like than Sticker Star was. There was a semblance of humor and creativity compared to Sticker Star.

>>385636267

The arrogance.

>>385636267
Did they seriously not know that they were making a piece of shit?

Sticker Star I can forgive as a failed experiment. They had to release something or take a massive loss. But Colour Splash? How did nobody on the team pick up on the fundamental flaws in SS that the majority of fans hated? How are they so fucking out of touch

Blame Tanabe. He's a fucking creativity vacuum.

If Sticker star 3.0 is a thing. I'll just laugh my ass off then get upset. I've past the point of caring anymore.

>People cry for Metroid games
>They get not one but two games

Now satisfy the MOTHER fans, Nintendo.

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>>385636353
This. The writers definitely still have that touch of humour they did with TTYD, but it's just that the gameplay needs to come back to the same quality.

>>385636157
>I'd guess that if we get another Paper Mario game it will be a return to form.
You can't be this stupid

>>385636307
literally everything about the switch so far has been nostalgia pandering. there's no reason to thing we won't get a return to form for PM Switch. Them not immediately shoving out a port of CS is a good sign.

>>385636691
>This. The writers definitely still have that touch of humour they did with TTYD
None of the writers that worked on TTYD worked on Colour Splash

>>385636657

Except one has $50 DLC and Prime 4 isn't being made by Retro so it's a bit of a gamble.

>>385636878
Bowser was really the only funny part about TTYD.

>>385636850
Nintendo doesn't care about N64 or gamecube nostalgia

>>385635978
A
FUCKING
PICTURE

>>385636657
You forgot
>Metroid fans bitch and whine about the fact that Nintendo noticed them
>>385636937
You mean the amiibos?

>>385636937
So just ignore the DLC. Is that so hard?

>>385636967
Then why are they harping so hard on Mario Odyssey being a return to the 64 style of gameplay? They even released that chart saying that this is the 3rd game in the 64/sunshine/odyssey timeline rather than the galaxy/NSMB timeline

>>385636967

Prime had 2 games on GC anon

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>>385636964
Wrong

>>385637053
Well Metroid fans are faggots anyway, there's no doubt about that.

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>>385636964
I can't imagine having taste this shitty

>>385636157
>Sticker Star was literally created by listening to the fans
Oh the irony.

>>385636878

Which only makes it more impressive that the writing was just as good

It doesn't have to be the exact people, only that they know exactly what they are doing

Look at Retro, a newer team made Tropical Freeze and it did a fuck ton better than their old team on Returns with the leftover Prime devs

>>385637131
>It's a sarcastic answer that doesn't lead to anything

Okay.

>>385636657
Mother is officially done. Itoi himself said so. It's allowed to end.

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>>385637078
>They even released that chart saying that this is the 3rd game in the 64/sunshine/odyssey timeline rather than the galaxy/NSMB timeline

But where does it fit in here?

>>385637157
What was funny about Luigi? Mario was a total dick to him.

>>385636937

Anon you do realize Metroid Prime 1 was very heavily orchestrated by Nintendo right?

2 and 3 were the only ones were Retro themselves had full control which explains the quality dip

Nintendo handling a different team for Prime 4 is completely fine

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>>385637157
Id rather just get an actual Paper Luigi game where he is not a bumbling moron the whole time.

>>385637238
That doesn't make it not funny

>>385637284
>What is MOTHER 3
>What is releasing a MOTHER collection

>>385637330
Metroid Prime 2 is a pleb filter

>>385636657
Itoi doesn't want to do another Mother game. He can't think of any new things to add for a future episode, so as he said so himself : he prefers to stop now instead of continuing his series and let it be a shitty cashgrab with no value.

It saddens me of course but for someone working in this industry it's actually a very respectable decision.

And well, maybe one day, he will think of some cool new stuffs for a Mother 4 game...

>>385637361
>I hope you look forward to hearing more about that
What the fuck kind of response is this?

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>>385637330
>Nintendo handling a different team for Prime 4 is completely fine
How can you be so sure?

>>385637361
too bad

Hope you like toads, stickers and unskippable cutscenes in the middle of combat

>>385637287
Success of Jr. obviously Punch Out occurs in New Donk City.

>>385637482
I think its implying that /ourguy/ will get in SMO
Kinda like how he did in Galaxy or even as the hard mode where you get the true ending or something

>>385637078
>They even released that chart saying that this is the 3rd game in the 64/sunshine/odyssey timeline rather than the galaxy/NSMB timeline
That is the most autistic sentence I have heard today

>>385635978
They mentioned that so Metroid fans wouldn't throw another shitfit. I'm mad they berated Tropical Freeze, that's probably why we haven't had another title since.

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>>385637790
I didn't make the chart bub.

>>385636937

>$50 DLC

The only one worth bitching about is the fusion difficulty

The others are literally the fucking art gallery and OST for the original second game, not the actual game

It's not worth it

>>385636637
They made fucking Paper Jam and extended the cancer to M&L.

>>385636542

Intelligent Systems is retarded Anon. That's how.

>>385636267
How is that a fucking excuse?

Why does Intelligent Systems need the fans to tell them when their game is shit?

>>385637907
You're autistic because you interpreted it as a literal timeline.

>>385637998
When did I say anything about the canon? I never said it was a literal timeline or universe or whatever. What the fuck else would you call that chart you retard? What word better suits that image in this context?

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>>385637960
Sticker Star, Colour Splash and Paper Jam all got affected by the NSMB cancer


I really want to believe that we've seen the last of it. But Mario Run is still a thing, I guess.

>>385638176
probably the words the used on the image

>>385637960
For what it's worth. PJ still have some good parts to it behind all the Paper nonsense.

>>385638203
and mario odyssey is a much more recent thing and a much better sign of direction.

>>385637435
Useless. We have the translation to fall back on, NoA would fuck it up entirely, and you can buy Mother 1/2 on the VC or emulate them.

>>385635901
Sticker Star is a weird one. It has some bigtime flaws with pacing and the gameplay loop.

But... the actual combat mechanics was as smooth and well done as ever. Action commands felt very good. I really enjoyed that aspect; however, it couldn't really save the game.

>>385638309
they didn't fuck up the gameplay like SS and CS

They just gave us a boring setting

>>385637508

>Using Star Fox as an example

Metroid is still being handled by Metroid, aka Sakamoto and friends who grew out of his emo Other M phase

Star Fox Zero exists to be as gimmicky for the Wii U gamepad as possible despite being an OK game without it

>>385637540

>unstoppable cutscenes in the middle of combat

Don't pretend every Paper Mario doesn't have this

>>385638176
>What word better suits that image in this context?
Series makes a lot more sense than "timeline"
The fuck is wrong with you?

>>385638443
>But... the actual combat mechanics was as smooth and well done as ever.
It just felt mindless

>use designated thing sticker
>watch non-interactive cutscene
>entire fight becomes a joke

It was fun trying to beat some of the bosses without using the designated "thing", but then the game fucking berates you for it.

>>385638592
I'm talking about thing stickers, anon

Making that a fundamental part of the combat is just ind boggling. Who finds this fun?

>>385637960

>cancer

Except the M&L devs did that shit on purpose and said it was only specific to Paper Jam because al their other ideas for a crossover was garbage

Don't shove Paper Jam into this, it had a lot more effort put into

Half the fucking cast is Paper form and yet it somehow manages to have more variety than both Sticker Star and Color Splash

>>385638642
Oh you're definitely right. A good mechanic with a poor framework around it is pretty useless.

I just wish I could put some of SS's action commands and general fluidity into Thousand Year Door.

>>385638292
"sandbox timeline" and "level based timeline"?

>>385638490
Exactly. That's why I can't hate PJ entirely. Just take what PJ did good and apply it to the next M&L whenever that comes along.

>>385638515
Wasn't Miyamoto the lead producer of Zero? If so, then it's proof that no developer is infallible. Since Nintendo themselves couldn't get something as simple as Star Fox right (after nearly 20 years to boot) you shouldn't be surprised when people start losing faith.

>>385638309
The battle system is great and the bosses are great, yes.

But the entire rest of the game is a horrible slog. They thankfully added a fast forward button and even then it seems like everything takes forever.

>>385639196
Miyamoto has been "fallible" for more than a decade now

Everything good that Nintendo has put out recently has been an arm's length from that senile prick.

>>385639196
that just proves miyamoto is cancer and it doesn't appear to matter anymore because they dont listen to him now anyway. At the switch reveal event thing they said miyamoto was against the settings and new characters and enemies but the young development team went ahead with it anyway.

Color Spash probably would've been more well received if they gave you an actual deck to build and customize instead of that one shot card bullshit from Sticker Star.

>>385636057
2008 was worse.

>>385638743
Half the game is still those awful minigames, it's crap compared to Dream Team.

>>385639580
>Brawl
>Rhythm Heaven
>Wario Land Shake It

nah

>>385639269
You forgot the run button anon. Seriously. I hope that stays a series thing.

>>385639748
>brawl
worst smash bros by far
>rhythm heaven
came out in 09
>shake it
worst wario land by far

>>385639196
>Wasn't Miyamoto the lead producer of Zero?
Yes, one of three, but you're thinking of directors.

>>385639847
>worst wario land by far
shit taste

The level design and music were 10/10
Easily the best thing Good-Feel has put out

>>385639580
Days of Ruin came out in 2008 and made that year for me.

>>385638743

>half the fucking cast is Paper form and yet it somehow manages to have more variety than both Sticker Star and Color Splash

This

How can Tanabe be so out of touch in what the Mario Universe has in characters and enemies

>>385638845

SSS+ has most to all of the QoL changes PJ brought.

>>385638203
NSMB hasn't had a game for almost 6 years

>>385637907
Everything in yellow is not good.
Everything in red is good.

So SMO will be good?

>>385640430
that is the working theory, yes

>>385640369
Mario Run?

>>385640256
Good.

>>385640430
Mario Galaxy 2 is good. Just not great.

>>385640535
Isn't a NSMB game.

>>385640741
I'm not going to have this autistic argument

>>385635671
>color splash mimics sticker star which is the best selling of the paper Mario game


Yes they do.

>>385640535
NSMB hasn't had a game for almost 6 years

>>385640880
but spm sold more and is also the worst pm game

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>>385640880
>best selling paper mario game

>>385640535
>Mario Run
>NSMB
I bet you think that Bravely Default is an FF game too.

>>385640880
>color splash mimics sticker star which is the best selling of the paper Mario game
Super Paper Mario sold more, retard

>>385635901
Music probably.

>>385640430
You must have some autstically high standards for 3D platformers if the Galaxy games aren't good to tou

>>385640880
Sticker Star was released as a key holiday title on a platform that's sold 70+ million.
Paper Mario was released at the tail end of the 64's life, a platform which only sold 35 million.
TTYD was released on the Gamecube, generally considered to be a failure selling only 20 million units.

Even still Paper Mario and TTYD still sold well regardless of their circumstances, they both had higher attach rates that SS ever has.

>>385636657
I dont get why retards want mother 3 localized so badly
they've clearly already played the fan translation
What would they even gain?

>>385640430
>Galaxy 1&2
>not good
>Sunshine
>Good
Supremely shit taste fag.

>>385641508
>waggle shit with a nunchuck is good
might have been ok with a game pad but we'll never know at this point

>>385641926
>>waggle shit with a nunchuck is good
Better than an island Janitor. Sunshine was nothing but boring tedium with shit level design.

>>385642082
better than galaxy

>>385639974
No the same anon but don't you need to shake the wiimote everytime you want to open something in this wario game. If yes, this is terrible.

>>385642364
>cleaning up an island vs space adventure
>Shit level design vs good level design
>Generic music vs great music
Sorry looks like Galaxy wins

>>385642735
>Blue coin vs Purple coin

They both suck

>>385642828
purple coins are handled way better than blue coins. the ones that have you search the entire galaxy aren't fun, but the ones that are relegated to a small area with a time limit are. galaxy 2 fixes this by only having the latter.

>>385642581
Because fuck gameplay, level design and music

I have to waggle the wiimote occasionally? Shit game

>>385638743
>Don't shove Paper Jam into this, it had a lot more effort put into
Its M&L crosses over with PM. Its really not. it just M&L with paper versions of the main cast. No Rawk Hawk, no Koopa Bros, No Doopliss.

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>>385643751
but plenty of memorable paper mario characters made appearances

>some kind of Pokemon game is in development
At least metroid got a picture they didn't even have the balls to crop up an image