Why is this the best halo game by far

>>385625815
Shameless self bump

>>385625815

>No alternate universe games where Master Chief sacrifices himself on Reach while Noble team gets off, leading to a grand adventure with those 6

Why live?

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>>385625815
It wasn't. Not only from a multiplayer balance standpoint, but it was also when Halo truly lost its identity to pander to CoD fans.

But I still had a ton of fun playing it and genuinely enjoyed the devs trying new things, even if the execution was lacking.

I'm still mad at how unbalanced the gun play was, yet the vehicle combat is probably the best in the series. Seriously, BTB was fun as fuck

>>385626093
But anon, that goes against captain king being the chosen one part of the story.

>>385625815
Fix the achievements

>>385625815
Because it's not, it's one of the worst.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvF-Obh_BBI

>>385628683
Big team assault and capture the flag were so fucking fun.

>DMR
No thanks. I fucking hate how every halo eventually turns into everyone spawning with a utility weapon and shooting pop shots from opposite ends of the map.

>>385626093
>implying any of those faggots from Noble Team were good characters instead shitty cliches

>>385630606
>*of

>>385625815
It's one of worst halo games ever because it wasn't on pc. Can't they just die holy shit the assholes at bungie

It was by far the best Halo, you could tell bungie put a lot of love into it.

I will miss it's glory days.

>>385630606
If they were made to be long term characters they'd be much better. If Chief had one game you'd say the same thing about him.

>>385630440
>capture the flag
I really enjoyed Stockpile

>>385625815
Invasion was objectively the most fun multiplayer of any game ever and so far. I don't care how unbalanced it was, it was fun as all fuck, every time. PC port fucking when.

>>385630789
>>385631045
why won't you pc port begging assholes just fuck off? what the hell is wrong with you?

>>385630606
>muh deep epic emotional story and characters
Shut up nigger and have some fun

>>385631150
Don't want to pay for online. Don't want to go downstairs to my old, shitty 360 just to play one series. Don't want to be limited to 30 FPS. Want to be able to mod the game, custom maps like Halo Custom Edition on Reach would be amazing.

>>385631223
Why do you need to shit up every single thing with it tho? Why can't you just discuss a video game without talking about that?

>>385631150
Fuck all developers and people who don't want/make pc ports. They should burn in hellfire

>>385631290
Because I want a PC port fuck you.

>>385631367
So you're a child then?

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>>385631410

>>385630906
In Chief's first game he had more character than those cliche walking tropes.

>>385631169
How could I? Campaign was shit and so was the multiplayer.

>>385630885
>you could tell bungie put a lot of love into it
Nice joke

>>385625815
I miss Staten
I hate Smith

>>385631941
I miss Johnson and I miss Mendoza

>>385631941
You should hate Jason Jewns more than anyone since he's the reason Bungie is literally dead with nobody but him and Shiek still being there.

>>385631712
>Nice joke
Nice joke

>>385630491
Didn't most games start with ARs though? I remember having tons of fun killing DMR shitters with my godly Reach AR, and I never had to worry about picking up other guns.

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>>385625815
>Best halo game
>Horrible campaign with shitty unlikable characters besides Noble 6
Bait/10

But anon, that's not Halo Wars

>>385632962
Yes, most started with ARs or SMGs. The problem is that BR faggots always complain and matchmaking almost always gets changed to have precision weapons as starts.

>>385626093
You can't be serious

In addition to the shit multiplayer, the way this game shat on the great story of the book is unforgivable. They just made up 6 random new generic characters instead of using all the spartans that were literally on the planet at the time

Not to mention the PoA and cortana were already in fucking space because they were getting ready for the final mission of the spartans to capture a prophet, this retconned the whole space battle of MC and Johnson

>>385633337
That's why I stuck to gamemodes with AR starts, maybe a pistol. Invasion was basically all I played. I fucking wish another game would have a mode like that.

>>385625815
The campaign kind of sucked. Bloom kind of sucked, but i guess it was necessary to balance the DMR. The new weapons weren't fun to use.

Its a shame invasion hasnt been implemented into the later Halos, it would be great combined with warzone.

>>385633695
Halo 2 shits all over the lore from First Strike but I never see anyone complain about that.
>>385633747
Bloom was in all the games, they just visually showed it in Reach. And you can't have invasion in anything after Reach because 343i took out the ability to play as Sangheili for some reason.

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>>385625815
>Custom spartan in all missions
>still has campaign theater
>every mode a Halo game needs
>Best art direction of any Halo game

>>385633949
>Best art direction
Only for humans. The covie designs were trash.

>>385633857
>Halo 2 shits all over the lore from First Strike but I never see anyone complain about that.
Not him but where at? Master Chief and Johnson make it back to Earth while Fred and Linda head somewhere else.

>>385634047
>the covie designs were trash
but still was miles better than nu-halo

>>385625815
Considering that it was the game that started the series decline you're factually wrong.

>>385633949
>Best art direction of any Halo game
Not even close

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>>385634116
>nu
Into the trash it goes.

>>385633857
The thing is that in Reach they already had plenty of story opportunities and made shit up when it was completely unecessary

>bloom was in all the games

Now I know you're retarded

>>385634110
In First Strike the Covenant know the location of Earth and assemble a huge fleet of 500+ ships to attack. In Halo 2, Cortana says "they're surprised, confused. I don't think they expected us to be here. Not you and me, all of us. Humanity on Earth."
>>385634242
Literally go load up Halo CE and see what happens when you spam the pistol vs controlled shots.

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>>385634116
H2A covie designs were better than Reach.

>>385634110
Also Fred, Will and Linda were on Earth in First Strike and one other book, maybe Ghosts of Onyx, just saying.

>>385630491
Default was AR + Pistol unless you played in the tryhard lists or had fags vote for DMRs.

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>>385634308
>Halo Reach
>Covenant discovers what is clearly one of our most defended strongholds
>They send one supercarrier and it's just hovering right over the planet
>Bigsticks don't do anything and we're completely helpless for 48 hours
>In the books the second the Covenant got close to Reach in slip space the USNC sent more than half of their fleet to defend it along with 20+ bigsticks
>Battle in the game lasts over a month
>In the book it lasted less than a day
For what purpose did Bungie castrate this event.

>>385634201
>>385634376

>This one aspect was better!

I mean overall, H2A's was better but it doesn't really count.

>campaign completely fucks the timeline of the battle of Reach (since when the fuck did the Covenant launch stealth invasions of anything?)
>Cockteases you with promises of awesome shit then steps on your balls
>For example: Tip of the Spear advertises the largest vehicle battle in Halo history
>Except you're not taking part in it, and you're gonna go on this ridge to shoot Elites while the rest of the UNSC has an orgasm-inducing land battle
>Trailers make it seem like you're taking part in the actual space battle as well
>you're not, you're actually just defending an orbital station from some very skittish banshees and seraphs
>Exodus rolls around, finally a good city level with some awesome shit happening in the background
>It's actually incredibly barren and dry, and only gets interesting in the last section
>New Alexandria was good though
>Final level, still no scarab boss fight
>TWO SCARABS HOLY SHIT
>"Just ignore them, fuck wanting to have a good boss fight or anything"
>Their main guns don't even work


Fuck Reach's campaign. The only thing worse was Halo 5's, and 5 makes up for that by having objectively superior multiplayer to Reach.

>>385634202
shame he got so little screen time

>>385634585
Probably because a battle that took one day and mostly took place in space would be a pretty boring game.

>>385625815
Man they best rename that shit to GAYLO

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>>385634376
>Those colors
Why did 343 have to make the series so bland? I kinda liked the shiny candy look they had in those beta sneak peaks, I'd prefer the classic look but it was at least colorful. Now the Spartans in Halo 5 look like they're all colored with shitty half expired deck paint because the lighting is fucked.

>>385634585
God, what I wouldn't give for Reach to have been about Red Team as they split up and try to prevent the planet from getting completely fucked.
>you will never hold out at the Super MAC generators with the rest of your Spartan bros in order to give the boys in orbit a fighting chance

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Still my favourite.
Chilling about Mombassa Streets with that sweet sax music was the tits, but in hindsight the map was really really small.

>>385634308
They still did, only Regret didn't know and Truth purposely didn't tell him.

>>385634771
No, no it would not. If you got Reach's timeline right and actually made a campaign of it, it'd be 100% better than the actual campaign.

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Still no official or fanmade Halo horror game with fixed camera angles where you play as an ODST trapped aboard the Mona Lisa.

>>385634308
The fleet in First Strike was a Brute led fleet under Truth, he discovered Earth via probe that tracked a ship which violated the Cole Protocol.

The fleet that arrives in Halo 2 is Regret's personal retinue who discovered the location of the Ark portal (not realizing it was humanity's homeworld) independently of Truth.

The two didn't share information due to political rivalry.

>>385634476
They all get different missions, H2A Terminals clear all of this up.

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>>385634771
Right, because Halo Reach totally wasn't boring. Halo CE took place over the course of 2-3 days and it was infinitely more interesting.

>>385634820
I wouldn't mind the Spartan IIIs if their team was smaller and they were actually doing missions that had pay off instead of just being a UNSC special interest force that helps ONI on the side. Probably one of the best missions in the game was Exodus and that's because you were actually doing something that beared fruits, you saved a bunch of Civilian transports that were getting off the planet.

The whole game should have just been defensive deployments.

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>>385625815
>Most experimental Halo game
>introduced armor lock, sprint, jet pack etc
>was unbalanced as fuck but still fun
>BTB
>MFW Invasion Spartans vs elites
Times were simpler back then

>>385635746
I still remember the fresh salt over armour lock when I was nary a wee boy back in 2010 at release.
I thought it was cool.

>>385635746
>Most experimental
That's ODST though.

>>385635894
Firefight was neat, but the gameplay was just a Halo 3 stathack.

>>385635746
It was their final fucking game and decide to do some horseshit experiment instead of just making a fucking Halo game and leaving. Bungie is the main reason Halo is where it is today because they fucked up the direction of Halo and left 343 wondering who the fuck Halo's audience is. I'm glad 343 is learning but seriously fuck Bungie, after Reach, I blacklisted their asses.

>>385631223
You guys do realize that Halo 5 forge and custom games can be played for free on PC, right?

>>385625815
SLIP SPACE RUPTURE DETECTED

>>385636852
Can't play as a Sangheili in 5.

>>385636432
>343i goes full CoD in Halo 4.
>But it's all Bungie's fault for including some armour abilities in Reach.

>>385637294
Yes it was their fault, guess what Halo game Halo 4 was built off of before Bungie made Halo Reach.

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>>385634976
>>385634308
BTFO

>>385637880
So Bungie adds bloom and a single extra ability a player can choose. This excuses 343i for adding killstreak care packages, default sprint, join in progress, a loadout progression system, hitmarkers/grenade indicators, removing ambient weapons and powerups from maps and changing the scoring from kills to points?

All Bungie's fault.

>>385638702
No, but it fucked up their direction. If Bungie would have just made a Halo game then maybe Halo 4 would have been a Halo game. But no, Bungie had to fucking experiment in their last fucking Halo game!

>>385639728
343i engineered the (janky) zero bloom patch and reworked the armour abilities before Halo 4. They knew the issues some people had with Reach and developed a CoD clone anyway, not Bungie's fault.

>>385640071
True, that's all on them

>>385633857
You don't need elites to play invasion though, thats just visually thrown on.

Invasion is just BTB objective with stages at its core, it seems really easy to add and I wish they did.

>>385641281
I mean, the elites and spartans were quite different in Halo Reach. It was nice to have the variety.
Also I've been playing as an elite exclusively since Halo 2 came out, damnit. Fuck 343i for making me be a spartan again.

halo 4 and 5 are NOT halo games.

>>385641897
Halo Reach isn't a Halo game

>>385642378
still better than both 4 and 5, though.

>>385642503
drinking piss is better than eating poop but it doesn't make it taste good

>>385642503
4, yes. 5, no.

>>385642631
halo 5 is shit

>>385642739
Halo 5's campaign is garbage, it's multiplayer is objectively superior to every Halo that isn't 2 or 3.

>>385642503
That's like saying one shit taste better than another shit. They're both shit so does it really matter? Plus I ended up finding Halo 4's campaign to be decent and I like Halo 5's mp and Forge. I didn't like Halo Reach's campaign or mp and I somehow liked Halo 5's campaign over Reach's.

>>385625815
Bungie's last real game they ever made.

>>385643082
That was Halo 3

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>>385637880
343 should have known better. Anyone could have seen the backlash that would come. 343 should have approached Halo 4 like The Coalition approached Gears 4. Add little things to the formula that don't actually massively shift the formula to being a completely different game. Add new things to the art style, but keep in the originals as well. That way if people don't like the new Lancer you can just use the old one.

>>385641897
Halo 5 and reach are like fallout 4. Good on their own merit, but not worthy/quite similar enough to be called Halo. 4 is just bad

>>385642941
>Plus I ended up finding Halo 4's campaign to be decent

You liked the bullet sponge bionicles and the bland-ass rule of 3 level design?

>>385643243
4 would have had an alright campaign if they didn't shove the forerunner shit in there. As much as I didn't like the execution of some of the Cortana shit it clearly had alot of heart put into it since the directors mother was suffering from dementia and he basically had to write the same thing with Cortana at the same time. The forerunner shit is where Halo 4s campaign goes to shit.

>Everyone shits on Reach
>I enjoyed it far more than Evolved, 2, 3 and ODST

>All the enemies were super detailed, and spoke an actual alien language for once

>I loved the DMR and DMR matches

>>People whine endlessly about the variations of multiplayer games, the customization and the best iteration of Firefight

>WAAAAH BUH MULTIPWAYUH POWAH-UPS

>People ITT unironically think that Reach's campaign wasn't the best campaign.

I hate you all, sincerely. Master Chiefs story was fucking boring and the Flood were always tedious bullshit.

Fuck all of you.

>>385643141
>Halo 3
>over ODST & Reach
GTFO underage fag.

>>385643153
I agree

>>385643307
I found it better than Firefight the game because that's what Reach's boring ass bland ass campaign was.

>>385643243
5 was a return to form for the series though. Neutral starts, power weapon control is necessary, and quite literally the best weapon balance the franchise ever had by far.

Could use some better maps though.

>>385643413
No, fuck you.
Reach's campaign was a massive goddamn disappointment, and the multiplayer was mediocre as shit.
Reach apologists make me sick.

>>385643452
>an ODST and Reach faggot calling a Halo veteran who started with CE underaged
I think you need to re-evaluate who the underage is here.

>>385625815
I agree.

I also thought Halo 2 was weak.

Both opinions may have something to do with me not playing multiplayer.

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>>385643413
fuck you too buddy

>>385643516
That's the main problem with Halo 5 MP. The maps are utter shit outside of maybe one or two.

>>385643638
>halo veteran
Kek. Reach & ODST plays more like CE than 3 you idiot, at least pistols actually worked.

Only people who are awful at Halo think Reach is the best game. Vanilla Reach has absolutely the worth multiplayer in the series.

I just want to play halo3 on pc. I don't need or really want reach

>>385643413
Fuck you, faggot

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>>385625815
As a guy who grew up playing Halo. Reach has the best and more complete multiplayer experience with horde and forge.
The campaing was not bad neither good at all. I mean it was the best Bungie work and the result of years of experience with the franchise everything was present there but personally I like ODST campaign more than Reach.

I love Reach. The multiplayer at least to me was the proper evolution of Halo and with this I said a lot because Halo 2 is my childhood.

>>385643638
>a Halo veteran

>A HALO VETERAN

Please kill yourself.

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Has anyone here played Installation 01? Does it actually show any promise?

>>385643658
Halo 2's multiplayer wasn't that good either. It was a lot like 3, very clunky vehicle combat and only 3 viable weapons.

>>385643839
>Reach & ODST plays more like CE than 3
Woo!

>>385643638

>Veteran

The only war you're a veteran of is the lost battles of weight loss, guy.

>>385643624
>>385643687
>>385643891

>Spotted the Gaylo 4,5 babbies

>>385643658
I liked Halo 2 more than 3. 3 maybe had the edge in maps and custom options, but in gameplay and campaign Halo 2 is superior.

>>385643926
Yes, Halo veteran, now kill yourself.

>>385643979
Yes, yes it does. Weapon balance in 2 and 3 were garbage by comparison.

>>385644028
I'm skinning shithead

>>385644075
The only thing you're a veteran of is the number of cheetos bags consumed you fucking faggot.

>>385630606
>>385632982
hey man Jorge is cool

>>385644128
And Reach was no better

>>385644075
>he didn't start with marathon durandal
>probably born after 95
Your generation has shit taste.

>>385644156
See>>385644147

>>385644075
I've been to Afghanistan and Iraq.

>>385644321
>I'm skinning shithead

LOLWUT?

>>385644380
Good for you, so you've played Medal Of Honor and those shitty old Desert Storm games?

>>385644250
I was born and 1989 and for the most part FPS have always been shit, they all played the same with N64 shooters being the only ones that caught my interest. After that Halo was different from all that maze shit on PCs and I fell in love with it.

>>385644380
Shame you didn't die there.

>>385644230
>AR and pistol in reach work more like in CE
>hurr reach is no better than 3
>Halo 3's 5 shots to pistol kill and the AR is literally the SMG of halo 2 all over again.

>>385644380
Why did they let you into the military when you're too autistic to understand the word veteran can be used in non-military context?

>>385644565
>Nintenbro debating FPS balance
You just can't make this shit up.

>>385644380
No you haven't.

Shut up.

>>385644380
Good for you, since I can't myself a "Halo veteran" meaning I have a long experience with the series since the beginning for those who don't know the meaning to veteran and thinks it only pertains to the military, I'll just say I started with Halo 1 and leave it at that.

>>385644429
Yes, I'm actually skinny

>>385644647
Halo Reach's pistol was a beast man, nothing like Halo 3's popgun.

>>385644647
Doesn't change the fact that Reach plays like shit.

>>385644736
FPS is a boring ass genre, first, they were mazes, then they became Half-Lives, after that, they became COD shit, at least they are finally starting to get interesting but I wonder how long that will last before it becomes oversaturated with the same gameplay again.

>>385644790
>Yes, I'm actually skinny

Why do you insist on lying on the internet, fatass?

>Play every Halo game up till 5
>Get all the achievements in almost every game
>thousands of hours put into the series
>Get Halo 5 on release date
>Don't even finish the campaign
What went so wrong?

>>385643945
Jesus Christ, their thighs are more heavily armored than their chests.

>>385631410
Video Games

>>385645758
HNNNNNNNNNNGH

>>385625815
Swat mode is fucking fire. Loadouts, maps and cosmetics were dope. Even the single player content was amazing. Pinnacle of the series without a doubt so >muh halo 2 and >muh halo 3 fags will always be salty

>>385645035
>I can't refute evidence so it's bad!

>>385646165
Literally Call of Duty. Get the fuck off my Halo codfag

>>385634818
5 shoots itself in the foot visually. Texture resolution and lighting are the first thing it drops trying to preserve it's fake 60fps, followed by display resolution.

>>385646165
You do know Swat was in 3 right?

>fire

What year is this you fucking wigger?

>>385645492
3

4

3

>>385647264
>>385647442
LMAOing @ ur life
get triggered u doublenigger

>>385645492
Locke and Osiris

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>tfw never have another halo game entirely spent gallivanting around on an actual ring

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wrong pic

>>385648304
Halo 6

>This bloated corpse of a franchise will NEVER die

Video games were a mistake.

>reticule bloom slows fights to a crawl and adds an unwanted element of randomness
>armor lock stops the whole game to postpone the inevitable, only cool when you break a vehicle
>maps were supersized to accomodate for sprint, which is essentially a get out of jail free card when you make a stupid mistake that would have otherwise gotten you killed. it adds nothing to the game, yet adds tons of sprinting for the sole purpose of getting across the huge maps, which could have been shrunk without sprint, and designed more smartly to take advantage of skillfull map movement
>positioning is less important because you can just press an escape button, thus reducing the skill gap
>jetpack completely removes the concept of map control. "Hurrr durrr jetpacks are sitting ducks!"<--- only if you are facing retards
>evade and other armor abilities play much better as map pickups, but they wanted to give loadouts to appeal to the kiddies that would put down the game in a month
>maps were oversized and had much less opportunities for intelligent movement because they want you to sprint and use jetpack instead
>vehicles went from being useful tools to mobile coffins as DMR fire is all that is needed to take them down
>firefight went from being an intense survival coop mode with an emphasis on resource management to being the hand of god smiting the covenant
>there is a huge delay between strafe movements, which means that fights boil down mostly to who shot first or getting lucky with bloom, unlike before when a skilled player could easily out strafe/gandhi hop/crouch in a fight and win despite being 2 shots down
>lack of a proper ranking system killed any incentive to progress or compete (seriously people used to dedicate so much time getting better to be amongst the best)
>loadouts bring more randomness, further reducing competitive value
>return of the good magnum/grenade launcher, forge and other options weren't enough, and the TU came when everyone left
it wasn't

>>385650019
Yeah whatever nerd

>>385625815
It's actually trash and was the start of the franchise going downhill

This game was so blurry it was literally unplayable.

Painfully got through the first mission and never picked the game up again.

Multiplayer was even worse

>1/10 easily the worst of the franchise

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>>385650961
how dare you

>>385634647
>>385650019
>>385651417
These

>>385644195
I really think Jorge got the most development of the group mainly becuase he interacted with the player more so his death was more sad I would say the sm efor the rest especially cat since she was got snipped so fast you're still having time to process everything like what

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it's all his fault

>>385625815
Best campaign

What do you guys that like reach's campaign see in it? I love reach but the campaign is easily the least interesting in the series, save 5.

>>385654245
It has a couple of decent levels and a nice atmosphere, it's not my favorite campaign but a better showing than 3 and anything 343i has ever done.

>>385654245
Why do you have such shit taste?

>>385650019
The only problem with evade as a map pickup is that increasing the movespeed to tolerable levels makes evade silly strong. It was on early variants of MLG Sanc and Pit.

The TU made the game playable, but the game was already dead. Pre-TU Reach is the worst game in the series. Its even worse than its own beta.