Who was in the wrong here?

>>385609969
todd howard

>>385610006
Fpbp

the dragon.

the war would have ended there and then when ulfric was executed, and there would be no dragon revival to worry about.

>>385609969
The stormcloaks.

They're practically Isis in Skyrim

>>385609969
i never understood the start of this game, why the fuck does anduin come back then for some reason come and save the only thing that can kill him, really pissed me off

>Stormcloaks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc7HmhrgTuQ

>>385610293
because dragons are the white males of the reptile world

>>385610193
>Imperials are beheading people en masse due to their religious beliefs
>This makes the Stormcloaks like ISIS

>>385609969
Todd for the horrible story.

>>385610871
wyverns

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>>385610006
What is the point of conceding things like animation and good controls for deep RPG elements and unparalleled freedom when your RPG elements are shallow and your mechanics enslave fun?

>>385609969
The Empire.
Murdering your own citizens at a hostile foreign powers behest is a complete abrogation of their authority.

Weakness of that magnitude makes it clear the empire is done.

>there are people here that didn't make Serana and her mother their personal vampire concubines

>>385610293
He shows up to kill the Dragonborn but fucks up and ends up saving him

>>385609969
that scene is the sole reason I helped skyrim instead of imperials

>shouting "it's in the clouds!"
>clearly perched on that little tower building, 20 feet away from your face
Fucken Todd, can't get anything right
Gotta have that snazzy 11/11/11 though eh

Stormcloaks

uppity nationalist racists pointlessly riling up shit for MUH TALOS

>>385617561
t. TIDF

>>385617390
Yeah, never understood why your character would ever be compelled to help the faction that just about killed him because one of the officers said "fuck it, chop off his head" when they weren't even in line to be executed

>>385617561
Scared knife ear detected.
I hope you get to carve the name "Talos" in the forehead of every Thalmor supporter as a constant reminder of their betters.

The AD is going to lose.
Daedra worshiping mer always do.

>>385609969
Lokir was, if he hadn't been a faggot with no honor then he probably would have survived.

>>385610006
Damn.

>>385609969
(You) for not installing Alternate Start.

>>385617916
There is no way that a united Skyrim could win against the Talos without Imperial support, the only reason the Redguards could is because their entire population are pirates

>>385610293
Seriously the guy didn't do a single good thing, makes me think he did it on purpose, he wanted you to win so the world would not end for some reason

>>385619143
>Talos
fuck. I meant Thalmor

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>>385616663
What a cunning plan!

>>385612267
>Violent war was resolved peacefully
>All we ask is you stop worshipping this literal person
>Bunch of dinducloaks up north threatening peace

Behead them all

>>385617497
>Sentries, what do you see?
>the Imperial captain asks this the moment Alduin is in close visual range

>>385617930
He would be now enjoying a beer and a pair of black tits on hammerfell.

>>385619339
Not even that, the Empire wasn't enforcing it and they could continue worshiping Talos in their homes but Ulfric had to throw a bitch fit.

tfw no argonian bf

>>385619339
T. High Elf
You know the thalmor want Nirn to disappear, right?

>>385619143
Skyrim is owned and operated by Arnold Schwarzeneggers.

>>385610293
>being too dumb to understand the plot of an elder scrolls game

/v/ is full of brainlets

>>385619554
>You know the thalmor want Nirn to disappear, right?

Literally prove it

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>>385617216
>there are people here that actually get off on dominating NPCs
>there are people here that actually fell for Serana's waifu trap
Sad

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Reminder that the storm cloaks are racist fuck and if you choose to side with them you think that TRAPS ARE GAY

>>385619554
So weakening the empire, the only force that has any chance of defeating the Thalmor, is the way to go?
Ulfric was literally working against himself with his rebellion. He'd have had a much better shot of kicking Thalmor ass by working with the empire; hell, some of the highest ranking imperial officers hint that they want to fight the Thalmor but are simply to weak to do so at the time.

>>385619771
Why else would they be seeking and disabling the Towers, and making the worshipping of the one who mantled Lorkhan, the dude who created and partially is the Nirn outlawed?

Anyone got that list of essential mods for best atmosphere?

>>385619801
>Reminder that the storm cloaks are racist fuck
SO IS EVERY OTHER RACE IN ELDER SCROLLS
FUCKERRRRRRRRRRRS

>>385619490
>THALMOR WERE HAVING PEOPLE JAILED FOR WORSHIPPING TALOS IN CITIES THAT BACKED THE EMPIRE
>THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT DEFEND THE EMPIRE WHEN THE THALMOR ARE ALLOWED TO INCARCERATE PEOPLE FOR RELIGIOUS EXPRESSION
People on /v/ are such fucking hypocrites when it comes to skyrim. They don't like how the empire is represented in game, but still defend it anyway and when evidence is brought up to show how gay the empire is then they go on about, "what a shit written game skyrim is." So basically: "The empire is the right choice until someone proves me wrong then skyrim is poorly written." I honestly think that the empire could be poisoning people's drinking water out of spite and /v/ would still be like, "...Justified."

>>385619940
>t. Snowmonkey
Ulfric = hate
Thalmor = love

Anyone who doesn't support the Nords are just shitskin race mixing kikes anyways. t. unpure genes

>>385619143
Leave Cyrodil to the AD.
Ally with Hammerfell.
Throw in the Bretons just to blunt the "Muh Magic" argument and profit.

The full might of the AD could not take Hammerfell even with the element of surprise.
Add to that the gambit to take the Imperial City ended with the decimation of the AD army and nobody is scared of the AD.

They may excel at the long game but now it will be a war of attrition and the AD can't compete.

>>385609969
Nearly all died. Who cares for dead men?

>>385619771
Dude, I support the highs and that's literally what they're trying to do. NOT that that's necessarily a bad thing. For them, at least.

>>385620086
There are three groups of Empire supporters.

1 Knife ear sympathizers who want an easy victory over the Cyrodil/High Rock alliance aka the empire.
2 C0DAfags who need the Empire to exist to validate their headcanon.
3 Literal retards

Know your opponent as you know yourself and in a thousand battles you will not be found wanting.

>no thalmor route
One job Bethesda.

>>385620642
Literraly everybody benefits.

>>385619801
>you think that TRAPS ARE GAY

So yeah... Skyrim is for the Nords then.

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Skyrim was absolute dogshit. The game starts with Alduin comes out of nowhere to save the only two people capable of killing him. Then you're presented with the choice of whether you'll side with the people that wanted to kill you for no reason or the group you were already aligned with before the game started. Should you pick the only choice that makes sense you run around the map as Ulfric's cuck participating in 5 or 6 fights against 10 men to determine the fate of Skyrim. Not even in your escapist fantasy are you the hero in Skyrim. No, you're just the errand boy treated like an outsider even if you are yourself a Nord. You can participate in side quests where you become the leader of factions after 6 quests. Four days from initiation you become the leader. Does it matter that the various factions' values clash with each other? No it doesn't. You'll just have to fill in the plot holes with your imagination. Then you find out the Thalmor control the Stormcloaks and Imperials all along. It was all just an illusion of choice. What you decided makes no difference in the story after all xD

>>385620960
>Wanting to keep Skyrim (their homeland) Nordic
>Racist
t. Shlomo Shekelstein

>>385621129
Whoops: >>385619801

>>385621129
Its literraly the four era, I think that little ice cube nords call home can use some multiculturalism literraly every race advance exept for snowniggers with their outdated "nord ways ". The empire already made skyrim 100 % better imagine under thalmor control nords will trascend time and space and cease to exist in that limited mortal form

>>385621106
You are born with a soul of a dragon.
You know the guys who love to dominate and control everything?
If you don't control everything at the end you are doing it wrong.

You probably let Paarth live as well for an extra helping of weakness.

>>385621106
>You can participate in side quests where you become the leader of factions after 6 quests. Four days from initiation you become the leader.
Christ, this is the most offensive thing to me. They could easily have let other NPCs become leaders of their respective factions (Nazir for DB, Brynjolf for TG, Mirabelle for mages, Vilkas for Companions).
But no, some fuckface that showed up a few days ago, who may have displayed little to no expertise in the relevant skills, will be the new leader.
For fuck's sake, I think the mages' college quest line can be completed without casting a single spell.

>>385621106
Oh noes I dunt get multiple cutscenes at the end to show "I mattered"

Fuck off gramps it isn't the 90s anymore.

>>385619339
>Resolved Peacfully
>The Empire got absolutely cucked and became a vassal of the Aldmeri Dominion

>Hey, boss? There's someone among the prisoners we captured that doesn't seem to be a criminal-
>Who the fuck cares? Chop his head off!
Really? I'm meant to fight for them?

>Say nothing to the persecutions of the empire and its retarded policies for hundreds of years
>As a result now your country is only %43 Nord
>Still say nothing
>The Empire gets assfucked by the Aldmeri Dominion
>As a result The Empire literally bans a part of your culture and your main god to save their asses.
>Rebel as a result of this bullshit
>Somehow stormcloaks are bad????

Everyone in the fucking room. I still don't understand the opening to that game. Why am I a prisoner? Why are the executing people without trial? Why are they executing a fucking thief? Why does the ultra nationalist who wants only nords in his country treat me good even though at character creation I end up making not-a-nord?

>>385622025
>Le skyrim for the nords XD
>Kick the empire out
>Ulfirc the king in the north XD
>years pass
>Altmeri comes back
>Fucking kills everybody
>Empire weakened from retarded civil war
>Altmeri fuck them too
>Muh talos

>>385622168
>Why am I a prisoner?
You were crossing the border from Cyroodil and you stumbled upon Ulfric running from the imperials and the imperials thought you were a stormcloak too.
>Why are the executing people without trial?
There is a civil and they were rebels.
>Why are they executing a fucking thief?
Skyrim isn't a perfectly democratic state from our age.
>Why does the ultra nationalist who wants only nords in his country treat me good even though at character creation I end up making not-a-nord?
Todd.

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>>385622254
They could've fucked hammerfell which is independent for years yet they didn't since elvish bois are afraid of non imperial cucks.

>Altmer are the Jews
>Stormcloaks are Germans/Nordics
>Imperials are Americans

Was Todd actually alt-right all along and subtly redpilling the future generation?

>>385621761
>doesn't know what a vassal is

>>385622643
>Can't do anything without the approval of the Aldmeri Dominion
>Obeys everything the Aldmeri Dominion says
Should i call them slaves then?

>>385620360
Allying with other countries would make the whole rebellion pointless

>>385622545
The dominion can't wage a war right now.

The dominion lost militarily hard from the Empire and in Hammerfell.

Bethesda was stupid to put in the story "the entire Aldmeri army was slain" and had the empire sign a peace treaty. It's like they left something out like the elder council signed the treaty without the emperors or people's wishes. But just says empire signs treaty lel.
Why would anyone sign a losing treaty when you just crushed their entire army? The empire would turn around their army and crush the one in hammerfell. Two armies now destroyed. The dominion is out of two armies while the empire has several. Why?
Oh that's right, Bethesda's writers are fucking hacks.

>>385622767
The treaty has no such linings. You're conflating banning of Talos and giving up sovereignty. The Empire still has full independence. You're retarded.

>>385622940
Why would allying with provinces that want to fight the AD be pointless?
Hell if the Empire wants the Stormcloaks back all they have to do is fight back against the AD.

>>385609969
The imperials, since they were fooled by the thalmor.
Fuck them

>>385622404

See! The whole fucking intro of that game falls apart as soon as you make a character. Why the fuck would any race apart from nords be helping a man who'd see them shoved into a pit and shot with arrows until the screaming stopped? Like I made an argonian when the intro decided to let me make a character and suddenly I'm not Ulfric's kind of person. So essentially they made the entire intro to the game BASED ON THE IDEA YOU WOULD MAKE A NORD BECAUSE MUH VIKING MEMES.

Fucking nuke Bethesda already.

>>385616663
As fearless in death as he was in life

>>385610193

>wanting to protect your ancient ancestrial land

They're more related to national socialist you mongoloid

>>38560996
The Empire faggots say Talos was a faggot and Sovngarde is fake and gay. In Skyrim you go to Sovngarde, the Stormcloak faggots are right because their gay religion is right.

>>385616436
This 100%

>>385616663
The best part is they look at his body as it runs away.

>>385624734
Underrated

>>385620715
>no forsworn route
Fuck nords. Skyrim is rightful manlet clay.

>>385624236
Dragonborn is canonically a nord

Reminder that if Skyrim was released in 2017, joining Stormcloaks wouldn't even be possible

>>385609969
Was dueling like Ulric did explicitly banned, or were the Imperials mad that he killed their puppet and went full ex de facto on him?

>>385609969
>see the archer killing that poor guy
>suddently i feel the CHIM on me to bring justice
>use my powers to revive the guy and kill the archer
Im the only one who did this?

>>385619854
>So weakening the empire, the only force that has any chance of defeating the Thalmor, is the way to go?
The redguard kicked their asses up and down the fucking coast without any outside help so you're wrong there m8.

>>385622168
>Why am I a prisoner?
You were a mexican and crossed the border just in time when a bunch of stormcloacks were captured so they got you too for being suspucious
>Why are the executing people without trial?
For what I understand, tulius wanted to end the war ASAP so for not taking any risk of Ulfric escaping or the thalmor doing something Jewish , he executes everybody to not take chances
>Why are they executing a fucking thief?
Same as above kill then ask questions later
>Why does the ultra nationalist who wants only nords in his country treat me good even though at character creation I end up making not-a-nord?
Todd, also Theres a fucking dragon so he wouldn't mind that much

>>385626539
I always assumed Nord and Imperial made the most sense with Altmer and Bosmer making the least sense. Doesn't matter. I'm a boring asshole that always plays the "canon" choice in these games.

Played a Dunmer Nerevarine, Imperial Champion of Cyrodiil, and a Nord Dovahkiin.

>>385628224
Here's the difference. The redguard weren't fighting the AD force in full. They essentially fought the leftovers. If the Empire wasn't holding the AD back they would have stomped over everyone else. Especially the Nords ironically enough. One Ulfric with the Thu'um wouldn't be enough to hold off an entire army of Altmer battlemages.

>>385627697
Everything Ulfric did was in accordance with Nord tradition, the Empire was upset because they don't care about Skyrim laws anymore than they care about the 9 Divines.

>>385628814
Same
But I played as a high elf in daggerfall

>>385619338
Underrated.

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>>385609969
you know (((who)))
Also Ulfric and stormcloaks are controlled opposition

>>385610006
FpBp

They were all right in their own heads basically.

>>385609969
>tfw have a mod where I get raped instead of beheaded before the dragon attack

Good times.

>>385626767
With the Empire and the AD both going to fall apart by the next game Stormcloak would be the only choice.

It's understandable that the empire thinks you're a stormcuck if a nord, but stupid as anything else, especially beastmen

>>385622557
>redpilling
>by making nords seem like retards

>>385624734
Dammit you beat me to it.

>>385632529
Yes we should all support Elisef.
#IMWITHHER

It's her turn.

>>385621723
It literally begins with you needing to cast a spell retard

>>385633039
Actually, it is since she was next in line for inheritance

>>385621129
>Americans need to bring up their retarded politics into vidya discussion
Literally every time, fuck off Reddit.

>>385633230
Wow, no need to be so rude..

>>385609969
The Dragonborn. They were crossing the border illegally.
That's a wrong thing to do, and they should feel bad.

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>>385633318
>tfw this is how blurred the line between reddit and 4chan has gotten