They wont fuck up this one, right?

hoping it's a similar situation like BG1 to BG2, but I doubt it

I really enjoyed the first game so I have no doubts I'll enjoy this one too. Looks great.

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I liked the first game, but it had some issues

>spell casters having really limited range
>all those shitty user made characters that add nothing to the game
>the way the game handled stats seemed convoluted
>difficulty spikes, you're either steamrolling everything or getting smashed in seconds yourself
>the lack of a voiced rogue character, despite the game being filled to the brim with traps

>>385607928
>>all those shitty user made characters that add nothing to the game
Thank god those have been severely limited down. There are only like 10 of them this time around, and apparently they won't have their huge fuckoff tl;dr wall of text soul backstories this time around.

>>the lack of a voiced rogue character, despite the game being filled to the brim with traps
Mechanics was what let you see traps, not Perception. They changed it back in PoE 2, though, unfortunately

>>385606535
Who /CipherRogue/ for soul murder here?

>>385608081
Incoming /CipherRanger/ here

>>385608081
>>385608165
>Multiclassing
Hah. Gay.

>>385608028
The only thing I found worse than user-made characters were those tombstones that you couldn't disable. I get that you want to give kickstarter backers an incentive to give you more money but cmon.

>Mechanics was what let you see traps, not Perception. They changed it back in PoE 2, though, unfortunately

Yeah, I think I used the 'fire' cleric or whatever he was called as my primary trap specialist which I found rather silly.

>>385608165
>Ranger
But why? Focusing on enhancing your ranged Cipher damage?

>>385608402
>not wanting to be a Cipher that eschews bothering to cast in favour of stacking as much Soul Whip damage as possible
SOUL MURDER

>>385606535
>They wont fuck up this one, right?

as long as josh sawyer is still in charge, it'll probable look fairly nice, have so-so writing, and be no fun at all to play

>>385608665
dunno about the sequel but in the first pillars soul whip damage bonus turned off if you were maxed out on focus

fuck rpg codex, FUCK RPG CODEX!, FUUUUUCK RPG CODEEEEEEEX!!!!
Sensuki you piece of shit i will torture you for days for what you have done to mature gaming

>>385609317
Yeah, but you can ignore Draining Whip and just cast something whenever your Focus is full to get that damage bonus back, while mostly using it as a damage buff instead of as a means of casting. I played a melee Cipher build through the original like that, and it was fine, but it wasn't as enjoyable as I would've liked since I always felt Ciphers were primarily oriented to be casters.
I'm hoping that with multiclassing being included in Deadfire I will be able to create a Cipher build that focuses almost entirely on fucking people up with the damage bonus from Soul Whip, only casting when I need to burn off some Focus - like accuracy and endurance bonuses from a Cipher/Fighter, or an extra damage bonus from a Cipher/Rogue flanking. Imagine a Cipher/Barbarian that got AoE Soul Whip (even at a reduced percentage) - it would be both powerful and fun as fuck for the ultimate in rip and tear which is why balance man will never let it happen

>>385606535
You can't not fuck up a game with the physical trappings of a CRPG but none of the soul. Lock your hopes in a box and throw away the key, it'll be easier for you in the end.

>>385609996
wat

>>385606612
Well the developers have acknowledged the flaws of the first game. Whether or not they act on those acknowledgements is another thing.

>>385607928
Outside of the optional Dragon fights, where were there difficulty spikes?

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>>385606535
>Waiting for Deadfire instead of the other Obsidian project

Didn't you know Cain and Boyarsky are making a game?

>>385612027
Didn't you see what Cain said about the stats? Seems like it's gonna be console casual garbage. Then again, people loved NV, so I guess that's what people want out of Obsidian.

>>385608081
I'm looking forward more to pairing off Paladin / Priest combos to stack those disposition abilities: Faith and Conviction & Holy Radiance.

>Priest of Eothas / The Shieldbearers of St. Elcga or Kind Wayfarers
>Priest of Magran / Bleak Walkers or Darcozzi Paladini
>Priest of Berath / Goldpact Knights**
>Priest of Wael / Darcozzi Paladini
>Priest of Skaen / Bleak Walkers

**This combo matches both dispositions exactly.

>>385612283
He was right, though

>>385606535
White march lets me be hopeful.
Even if we won't have 11 companions to play with, we will have the classes/abilities and hopefully a tighter campaign.
Pallegina is a minus, but she can be ignored

>>385606535
>Đeadfire
they already did

>>385607735
drop dead obsidiot

What the fuck happened to this new Torment?
Pillars is getting talked a lot after release, with expansions, overhaul patches etc. but this shit just fell under the ground.
Was it shit?

>>385613782
Yep

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>meanwhile, in Belgium...

>>385613782
It was stinky elephant shit. That's how shit it was.

>>385613864
It's just going to be D:OS all over again

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>>385606535
Yeah, they'll fuck it up so bad, it will sell more than PoE1 and get even better ratings. Fuck, they've already fucked it up so bad, it generated more backer funding than PoE1. Fucking Obsidian!

>>385606535
anybody who still gives a single fuck about this shit needs to be shot.

you shouldn't even be hyped for pathfinder.
the only good shit is all JRPGs these days.

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>>385613864
>Meanwhile, in Seattle...

>>385612531
this. might as well name the game "lackluster". it doesn't even matter at this point.

>>385614306
what this?

>>385614518
A Cyberpunk Horror Roleplaying Campaign, with turn-based combat, stealth and no quests

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>>385614668
Forgot the pic

What was wrong with the first one? I'm genuinely curious because I haven't played it, but I'm thinking about getting when it's on sale again...

I played and enjoyed BG1 and 2. They were great games, but not perfect. Is there any reason besides nostalgia that makes people say PoE was bad? Or are there other legit reasons completely unrelated to it trying to live up to BG1 and BG2?

>>385614668
>no quests
wait, why?

>>385614759
Shitty story and ending + boring soul obsessed world

>>385614759
This post >>385607928 covers a lot of the issues, but I'd say there's even more. Combat is a bit too fast, loading times get real shitty lategame. The 15 level dungeon sucks.

Overall, though, I think it's a pretty good game. I go even far enough to say that I liked it more than BG 1.

>>385614897
>soul obsessed world

Didn't stop the Dark Souls series from being good. I kid...

>>385614901

I'll give it a shot, in that case. Are monks any good? My monk in BG2 was a powerhouse... I kinda want to make a similar character.

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>>385606535
Im not touching it until at least the 5th patch.
Never, ever, buy an obsidian game on release.

>>385614746
oh, that's the game from the devs who made Serpent in the Staglands. I love that game!
But I couldn't recognize the game from that screenshot, are there more screenshots?(I just follow their youtube channel)

>>385615107
Monks are fucking awesome. Second best class in the game. The higher you level them, the more ridiculous they get.

>>385606535
I hope it's as diverse as Tyranny!

>>385615221
awesome. What's the first best class?

>>385606535
It's Obsidian.
Of course they will.

>>385606535
It seems there will be more shitty writing and sjw shit than in 1st game. But i still have hopes

>>385614759
>trash mobs everywhere
>first draft script
>verbose writing
>backer npc
>lack of visibility when there's a lot of opponents
>loading times

>>385611646
Fomr the expansions were more guilty of this than the main campaign (which was waaaaay to easy).
Take winter march 1 for example. Some enemies, like the cragg ogres, ice trolls, elementals and human/dwarves/etc. are a walk in the park, but any area with the laguhfaet, or whatever the fuck their name was, is a fucking pain in the ass thanks to constant paralization and their priest casting the blue flames buffs and attacks. And this is just going from one area to the other. Start the expansion, attack on the village (easy)----> the forest (easy)---> ogre caves easy---- the falls (FUCKING HARD)---> outside the fortress (easy again)

>>385615272
He probably means Cypher
Monks are way cooler

>>385615272
Cipher
Barbarians are third best

>>385615272
cipher

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>>385606535
>search for release date
>2018
i thought it's out this year REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>385615193
You can check some updates for neat info
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1649838104/copper-dreams/updates

I like to see how the project is evolving, from the art style to the interface

>>385615464
They become a breeze once you get the spell that protect against paralysis

>>385615375
>verbose writing

The problem here was mixing voiced characters with written descriptions in the same window. Its distracting because the voiced characters says his dialogue and at the same time you can read what he says, but its cluttered with sentences about the enviroment and yadada in the same paragraph. Either dont voice them or let the character speak first then stop, do the written exposition about the enviroment or expressions, stop, and then let the character talk again.

>>385615610
Which a priest gets at a fairly high level IIRC, meanwhile the recommended level for the expansions is 7.

>>385615926
Level 9 apparently, i think you can use scrolls or just come back later

>>385616034
nvm scrolls are level 9 too

>>385608649
It makes a lot of sense lorewise as he was was a mechanic who literally made a godkiller bomb.

>>385608081
P U R E - W I Z A R D for fat debuffing and spell slinging everyday
Monk/paladin for pious fist of the wandering missionary, everything is getting punched, everything is getting crits and Im hoping that monks will be at least half as OP as they were basegame

>>385608081
Druid/barbarian, spirit shift + carnage and frenzy sounds like a pretty good combination unless they buff high level druid spells because the one we got in WM were pretty disappointing compared to other spellcasters

Reminder Eothas is the best god and anyone who has otherwise is a degenerate

>inb4 ">worshiping a corpse"

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>real-time w/ pause

>>385617123
>meme turn meme based meme combat

Original Pillars of Eternity surpassed Baldur's Gate, so the sequel is likely to surpass Baldur's Gate 2.
>better setting, swashbuckling colonial pirate adventure
>faction-centered story like in New Vegas with some magic craziness thrown in, like a huge reincarnated god walking around and causing mischief
>better mechanics, less spellcaster abuse
>better graphics, which is a given

>>385617123
It works because you can change the speed. If they added a slider for timescale, it could be truly amazing.

Tyranny was missing this.

>>385617685
Hahaha, nigga please.

>>385606535
probably going to be even worse than the first one.

>>385617771
You literally can not prove me wrong.
>but muh mage battles
>but muh waifoos
Please.

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>>385617685
As a RPG, PoE surpassed both BG1 and 2 combined. If you play both Bg1&2 as one game, PoE still has more actual roleplaying, since both BG1&2 are h&s games.

>>385616974
>tfw best boy was just trying to save the drywood from Woedica and Thaos soul snatching all the chillens.
Magran worst girl next to Ondra
Eoths and Abbydon are pure sweet adra gems that deserve nothing but the best

>>385610918
did they acknowledge that "re-balancing" the game with every patch after release was a mistake?

>>385617819
The setting was unexplored generic dog shit. Pretty much all but the criminal faction sucked donkey dick, and the mechanics were boring af.

>>385618029
I was talking about Deadfire's setting, silly.

>>385612531
for some reason I had always read that as Dreadfire. Deadfire is stupid.

>>385613864
I don't understand why no one talks about it on /v/, the first one was goty and the second one might be game of the decade.

>>385618181
>a chain of volcanic islands
Volcanoes = fire. Extinct/dormant ones (plot twist???) = Deadfire. It's a perfectly cromulent name.

>>385614759
the combat system is shit, it focuses too much on balance which means you cannot be effective with specialized builds.

>>385606535
Didn't like the first. Thought Tyranny was shit. But I backed this anyway.

Hard to have any expectations. All their good writers are gone.

>>385615272
it used to be rogue but they nerfed it

>>385618508
>it focuses too much on balance which means you cannot be effective with specialized builds
that's like the opposite of what balance is, and you can make ridiculously specialized builds in PoE

what is the best build for maximum rip and tear monk, as in race/stats and such?

>>385618461
>cromulent

>>385618576
I know they got fuck all from the expansions but what did they nerf?

>>385618665
not on any real difficulty setting. Mister "no fun allowed" Sawyer made sure of that.

>>385616713
low level spells were actually better than some shit we got at high levels, thank god they switched to per encounter resource points I hate when all the spells I like are at the same level

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>>385617685
>Original Pillars of Eternity surpassed Baldur's Gate

>>385618805
And that's not true either, melee wizard is very specialized and one of the strongest builds.

>>385618794
everything, rogue builds were the first to achieve triple crown solo, so Sawyer turned them into shit within a week of the game's release, ruining the save files of thousands of people.

>>385618508
the only thing I miss from the old dnd games are fight ending spells like web, confusion and the like

>>385618961
Sawyer also massively buffed Paladins and Rangers, who kind of sucked, buffed some other stuff, but people focus on nerfs obviously.

>>385618961
at least give me a couple examples, I know they killed my cipher run when they nerfed initial focus and focus generation plus increased focus cost all in 1 patch

Tyranny was pure fucking dogshit so I feel like this game will be that good, they probably lost some talent.
Also those insane nerfs PoE had were insanely unfun and ruined my run.

>>385619127
those 2 got insane skills from the expanions but up until you get stunning shot and holy inmolation or whatever they're called they're fucked.
Rangers were already pretty good damage dealers if you got the pet talents and added another body on top of that but paladins were pretty much dead weight

>>385619561
>Rangers were already pretty good damage dealers if you got the pet talents
The main complaint was that pets died too fast I think, I remember everybody saying "Rangers suck".

>>385619650
I've never had a problem with that and I used mine to flank and stop stragglers.
Lots of people complained (and are complaining about the sequel) about having to depend on the pet.
It blows my mind since ranged rogue is perfectly viable

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>>385608081
Wizard/Paladin

Roleplaying as an evil wizard who turns good, let's see how it goes.

>people are excited for Dead-on-arrival-fire
>when Grimoire releases literally tomorrow

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>>385606535
So far it's looking great and they've learned a bunch from the first one.

The characters still look pretty bland though.

>>385620251
Why not both

>>385618343
There's nothing to talk about, everyonoe is waiting for the release.

Pillars has got to be the most dull fantasy setting ever created, so there's no way they could make it good.

>>385620402
600 hours of gameplay, and that's only one playthrough. Why play anything else once that Neanderthal masterpiece is finally out?

>>385620574
why not both?

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>>385617123
>>real-time w/ pause

You can fuck off with your turn based grid shit to Planescape Tides of Numenera.

>>385620564
Pillar's setting is actually pretty fucking great, they just chose the most boring place in the entire setting to set the game in.

>>385620659
>the most boring place in the entire setting to set the game in
Why do people have that opinion? The old Empire the colonies broke off from would be a much boringer fantasy setting. Durrwood has ancient mysterious ruins, colonies trying to find their own style of living after breaking off with the old world. It's not realized very well, but the potential is obvious.

>>385620564
>baby first crpg
play some dragon age, kid

>>385609187
Yeh like new veg-- oh wait

>>385606535

The first was already shit, how can it get much worse?

>niggers are the colonial super rich and culturally advanced faction
that's when I decided to pirate it

>>385621368
Akshully Valian Republics are ~culturally and ethnically diverse~

>>385620779
The Aedyr empire is a elf-human empire that's at the equator. And the empire was formed by having the two leaders marry, so it would make sense that the parts of the empire that were previously just the human or elf kingdoms be very different and the newer parts be a mix of those two which might be cool.
Tho you'd probably be executed by being a cipher.

>>385621565
yeah that's why there's only niggers

I'm just saying, If there are new companions there better be a qt shark girl to romance

>>385621368
It's a fantasy game for a reason you dumb edgelord.

>>385621628
>The Aedyr empire is a elf-human empire that's at the equator.
It's basically a " that one old kingdom with long history" which is such a fucking old fantasy setting it's not even funny. Again, I agree that Durrwood potential wasn't fully realized, but it's pseudo-post-American-revolution premise is anything but bad.

>>385618026
No, but on the otherhand i dont consider it a mistake because original pillars was shit and now its actually good.

>>385621631
Only half of the population is niggers tho.
Also the only thing they are good is trade. Fucking Dyrwood cripples their entire nation in one single war, and Dyrwood is one of the less advanced countries in the world.

>>385621705
yet when this justification is given for having massive tits or any other ridiculous shit, it's not valid.

really makes me think

and it's inspired in history, so that's irrelevant. makes no sense for niggers to be that advanced.

>>385621803
Might as well use a trip since you keep using durrwood, I recognize you from other threads.

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>>385621696
>romance
I think not goobergator

>>385618026
Probably not, considering how Pillars was incredibly and massively improved with patches to the point where it probably had the best post-release support of a game I've ever seen, barring some really indie games I guess.

>>385621934
my shark girlfriend who is also my mom will beat you up

>>385621917
That's the first time I post in a PoE thread in months. I just like Durrwood, I think it was coined by PoE haters but it's a funny word. It's probably a Codex meme.

>>385618508
>i've never played the game

>>385621990
>one of the biggest celebrations in sharkpeople land is just a huge underwater orgy
The shark people are cool.

>>385621890
yes it's valid

go get triggered at fantasy worlds somewhere else

>>385621890
It makes no sense to be mad about niggers in fantasy games, especially when you can kill them all.
What a retard.

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>>385621934
It's actually refreshing after playing so much Bioware shit where they throw romances in your face and talking to your same sex companions is like walking a minefield.

One thing I hope they add which i'm pretty sure they won't are character sliders to adjust height and weight.

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>>385606535
>the other races they created are bland as fuck
>no new races in deadfire

>>385620485
it's been in early access for a long time, I've been through the game 3 times already and have come up with some pretty cool builds.

>>385620636
D:OS already proved that turn-based is superior.

>>385623285
Is D:OS any good for people with /nofriends/?

>>385623285
Nope.

The good parts of D:OS are not tied to the combat.

>>385623348
>Is D:OS any good for people with /nofriends/?

It's a good roleplaying game. Having a co-op buddy just makes the roleplaying more unique.
It's more hardcore though, so you can't exactly run around anywhere you want because enemies will slap your ass hard early on.

>>385623457
>It's more hardcore though,
It's really not.
You just have to read or just hover the mouse over the enemy to see it's level.
The game has a set way for you to take and the only way to deviate from it is to abuse the diplomatic encounters by playing that shitty rock paper scissors game and then backstab the enemies you just convinced to walk away which allows you to be overleveld.
The game is honestly easy as fuck even after they fixed all the broken talents.
Also the roleplaying isn't that great because the writing itself isn't that great.

The game was praise because of it's combat and it had excellent music, but everything else was mediocre.
The joke where that earth elemental showed you how your adventure would end was top tier tho.

>>385606535
Obsidian in charge of not fucking up?
Anon I have some bad news for you.

Have you heard the fable about the camel and the scorpion?
Obsidian is the scorpion and it is what they do.

>>385606535
They already did
>No Durance as companion

>>385625971
I convinced my Durance to burn on a pyre, like he deserved.

>>385625971
Durance isn't a companion? Fuck. I really liked him.

>>385626269
Ikr...

>>385626269
No, the only returning companions are Eder, Pellegina and Aloth. There are new companions, as well.
I just hope this means we can finally romance best girl Iselmyr

>>385626680
No even Kana coming back... too shame

>>385626269
No more avellone writing = they cut his companions

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>>385626734
We get his better, Imperialist sister though. I think it's an improvement.

>>385622348
you can kill them all?
source

>Eric Fenstermaker (guy who wrote the only good parts of PoE) is gone
>Avellone is gone
>Sawyer isn't writing anything
yes it's confirmed to be shit

>>385606535
Are they going to remove the hundreds of pointless packs of 2-6 animals on every map that add nothing to the game? Or add a way to solve them without fighting?

Or at least add combat xp back so theyre not a complete waste of time?

>>385606535
they already fucked up by making the watcher the MC again, your story is already over at the end of pillars

>>385627428
>PoE1 literally ends with "but your journey is far from over"
>anon says your journey was actually over at the end of pillars
waow anon

>>385627428
OH YOU THOUHGT YOU COULD SLEEP!!!! MOTHAFUCKA WHERE WE ARE WE DON"T NEED NO FUCKING SLEEP! NOW GET YOUR SOUL BACK FROM THE SOUL EATING DRAGON OR SOME SHEEET!

>>385627428
>>385627715
>>385627719
>explained as your soul suffers a God Attack so that makes you restart at level 1 when 2 comes out

I mean, I guess it can work.

>>385627846
...That is so retarded I need to come up with a new word on how retarded it is.

>>385606535

They already did. It's not Baldur's Gate 1 or 2.

>>385627715
>>385627846
i know they already explained, but i would have liked a new MC, maybe meet the watcher at some point

>>385628156
I was just explaining the retarded reason of why you're the watcher again.

Your idea would be cool, kind of like a dragonball Xenoverse 2 type deal.

>>385628065
True. It is Baldur's Gate 3.

https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/001/780/846/large/vance-kovacs-the-black-hound19.jpg?1452635834

http://i.imgur.com/Bj0HHYf.jpg

>>385619123
Ciphers with Amplified Wave, Mental Binding and whatever that chain confusion power was called are pretty great at locking down fights.

I really wish Tyranny had been their flagship CRPG, it's about a hundred times more interesting

>>385628302
I really liked what I saw of the Black Hound's story. I think BGfags would've hated it, it's the opposite of an epic story though.

>>385612626
you first, brainlet

>>385628247
Your previous character appears all pissed off that some god decided to rise out of fortress and proceeds to wreck said gods shit until it fucks off. You two converse and PoE char doesn't care what the god did to your soul and tells you to fuckoff. That'd be some good shit.

>>385628156
>>385627846
It's supposed to be a spiritual sequel to BG. That entails a grand adventure spanning multiple games. that's a core and central aspect of it.

I think the reset to level 1 is fucking retarded and it's gonna be complete shit having to go through the same boring level 1~7 spells all over again, but whatever.

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>>385606535
>Archipelago, naval warfare, pirates

Yeah I'm sure it'll suck.

>>385620963
sawyer wasn't in charge on that, which is why he released his own terrible, no-fun-allowed "official" rebalance mod on the nexus

>>385628413
desu the story sounded beyond retarded

>>385627101
the game

>>385628707
>it's gonna be complete shit having to go through the same boring level 1~7 spells all over again
well the mechanics are completely different now so

Did you guys like Pillars better than Nevewinter Nights or vice versa?

>>385628779
>sawyer wasn't in charge on that
he literally was

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>>385628779
Yes he was, and jsawyer is a great mod.

>>385628861
Jesus fucking Christ, Obsidifuckups make up your goddamn mind on how you want your game to play!

>>385628909
If we're just talking about the base game Pillars, easily

>>385628328
not even close, I take you haven't played bg1 or TOEE. Entangle for example slows everyone and holds if they fail their save so that group of 10 hobgoblins becomes 5 held enemies, 3 are in melee reach and the other 2 won't reach you before you kill the other 3.

In Pillars CC is nerfed as fuck and the best you can hope for is something like 10 seconds if you crit and the AoE is small as fuck

>>385628779
Ya played yourself

>>385629024
>immunities are bad
>2 patch later introduce immunities
They have no idea what to do

Are we getting a shit ton of backers npc ruining cities again?

>>385629298
Oh dear god.

>>385629309
Of you can count on it. Some lucky backers are going to be able to make skills/abilities too.

>RPG "fans"
kys

>>385629210
Of course I've fucking played the IE games.

An Intelligence Cipher can easily lock down fights. You need to recast now and then, but that's what Ciphers are good at. It's even easier with Wizard support or a second Cipher.

>>385629456
>Some lucky backers are going to be able to make skills/abilities too
I can't tell whether this is going to be a good thing or a bad thing considering how boring base skills and abilities are in PoE.

>>385629506
>MC Wizard, Aloth, Grieving Mother

Literally bullying all enemies

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>>385606535
>Mr No Fun Allowed in charge of game balance

>>385629145
I never got too far into Neverwinter Nights, but I'm thinking about playing through it. I do remember liking that, at least in the beginning of the game, the main threat was the undead.

I really liked those sections in Baldur's Gate 2 going into crypts, fighting zombies, liches, and vampires too. I'm wondering if there's some of that in Pillars as well?

>>385628909
>>385629145
Base Pillars was probablyjust a bit better than Vanilla NW2 (better than NW1 vanilla obviously).
But it still surprised me how it meaningful moments for your companions or just way to handle big moments and pace the quests.
Compare how the Stronghold was used(bonuses and quests related), how the trial vs animancy hearings occur, how the actually big twist and backbone of the campaign is not revealed in the last second, how companions can betray you or how you affect their outlook and the game shows it beyond an ending slide (I actually struggle to decide if I will make Khelgar monk).

Even expansion wise, you have White March 1&2 vs Storms of Zehir and Mask of Betrayer

>>385629578
>mr no arguments in charge of explaining why wonky shit game balance is good

>>385629574
>>385629456
MC Wizard damage plus CC with whatever the enemy is not immune to(Eyeless slipping from Oil Slick is just hilarious), Durance making it impossible to near die, Hiravias paralyzing 90% of the encounters with his Lightning spells and Grieving Mother being able to dominate/charm/ confuse at least 2-3 opponents within 5 seconds.

It is kinda bullshit

>>385608081
Priest/barbarian for dat pious rage.

>>385629309
Not exactly. This time the backer only gets to choose the NPC's name and have the portrait in their likeness, but Obsidian decides their role and location.

>>385629915
>portrait in their likeness
Those always look so silly
Also hope they make more portrait for the races you can't easily find on the internet

>>385629624
Well one of the district of the big city is overrun by zombies but in dungeons it's mostly spirits not undead and boy they can be a fucking pain in the ass

>>385630423
Heritage hill? That was piss easy.
The real pain in the ass are locations with spirits that can cast Dominate/Paralyze(like Durgan's battery)

>>385630556
>The real pain in the ass are locations with spirits
Isn't that what i wrote?

>>385629915
So no more godlikes infested everywhere with furrysona stories?

>>385614764
Millennials don't like to be tasked with accomplishing anything, they'd rather wonder around aimlessly just like life.

>>385630810
>it's an oppressed strong lesbian wizard story

>>385615272
>All these edgelords picking cipher

Only answer is Monk so I can be like my hero, Goku.

>>385630810
That seems to be the idea.

>>385631032
Ciphers are cool mang, they're a somewhat different class that are integral to the world and story. Monks would be cooler if you didn't have to run around in a full suit of armor. They should have thought of something better for 'em.

>>385623352
the sophisticated turn-based combat is what defines this game and makes it great.

>>385631202

I agree. Monks could have been handled better. Cyphers never really did it for me personally. It felt edgy and I really disliked the mechanics behind the class.

Honestly I enjoyed my Chanter more than my Cypher.

>>385628909
Pillars is not anywhere close to Neverwinter Nights.

>>385630626
Heritage hill has only like Spectres that cannot do shit. Only issue is that optional encounter with the Banshee

>>385631032
>>385631465
Ciphers do get so many roleplaying opportunities and you are flexible with your weapon choice, so I can see why someone would pick it.

I picked wizard and was both satisfied and disappointed. It's extremely strong as a class, but I felt almost no sense of progression, since they were determined to make sure each level had good spells, it made it less exciting to get new spells.

>>385606535
>tfw Avellone is gone
>tfw no more Durance
This game's plot was perfect for him too.

>>385631743
I don't remember any specters just gul, dargul and skeletons

>>385632090
Yeah the wizard spell progression felt like just a mixed back of some simple control and different ways to deal damage.

>>385632156
Maybe it depends on the difficulty?

>>385632246
>>385632156
Right, there aren't even spirits.

>>385628859
the game that isn't out
ok

>>385629578
>this is probably the same guy that shitposts VtMB threads about shit combat and how he wishes some weapons were useful in other RPGs
(you)

>>385632756
No, the one that came out a few years out

>>385633003
you only interacted with the niggers there in the paladin vagina side quest though.

>>385633082
Didn't stop you from bitching about black venetian

>>385633192
?
But I bitched about them in PoE2, I never mentioned PoE1.
Are you one of those anons that barges into a conversation halfway through without any idea of what is being discussed?

>>385633192
>Pretending to be this retarded

ohhhhh mama

>>385614759
Play Planescape Torment instead and skip Numenera and Pillars of Eternity. Theyare crap.

>>385633274
So you were fine with niggers being the colonial super rich and culturally advanced faction in PoE1 but now it's retarded?

>>385633576
No, I wasn't, but they were almost never mentioned or had any relevancy to the setting of the game, so it really wasn't an issue in PoE.